The Aspiring Psychologist Podcast - What Is Complex Trauma? Causes, Symptoms & Healing – C-PTSD

Episode Date: March 17, 2025

In this episode of The Aspiring Psychologist Podcast, Dr. Marianne Trent delves into the topic of complex trauma (C-PTSD). She explores what complex trauma is, how it manifests in adulthood, and most ...importantly, the potential for healing. Through a fictional but realistic case study, Marianne demonstrates the profound impact of complex trauma and shares effective therapeutic approaches for recovery.To grab £10 off the Our Tricky Brain Kit and / or The Feel Better Academy use Code: YouTube10 at checkout: https://www.aspiring-psychologist.co.uk/Key TakeawaysUnderstanding Complex Trauma: The difference between single-event trauma (PTSD) and chronic trauma (C-PTSD).Case Study of Sarah: A powerful illustration of how childhood trauma can shape adult life.Manifestations of C-PTSD: Anxiety, self-doubt, hypervigilance, and physical symptoms.Therapeutic Approaches: Compassion-Focused Therapy, EMDR, Somatic Therapy, Internal Family Systems, and Schema Therapy.Hope and Healing: Recovery is possible with the right support and therapeutic interventions.Timestamps00:00 - Introduction00:44 - What Is Complex Trauma?01:33 - Causes of Complex Trauma02:29 - Case Study: Sarah’s Childhood03:27 - Sarah’s Adulthood Struggles05:18 - Impact of Sexual Abuse06:18 - How C-PTSD Shows Up in Adulthood07:21 - Healing and Therapy Approaches08:29 - Compassion-Focused Therapy (CFT)09:33 - Eye Movement Desensitisation and Reprocessing (EMDR)11:00 - Somatic Therapy and Body-Based Approaches12:40 - Internal Family Systems (IFS) and Schema Therapy13:31 - EMDR Training and Recommendations14:29 - Message of Hope for Trauma Survivors15:33 - Feel Better Academy and Support Resources16:26 - How to Support the Podcast17:47 - Closing RemarksLinks:🫶 To support me by donating to help cover my costs for the free resources I provide click here: https://the-aspiring-psychologist.captivate.fm/support📚 To check out The Clinical Psychologist Collective Book: https://amzn.to/3jOplx0 📖 To check out The Aspiring Psychologist Collective Book: https://amzn.to/3CP2N97 💡 To check out or join the aspiring psychologist membership for just £30 per month head to: https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/membership-interested🖥️ Check out my brand new short courses for aspiring psychologists and mental health professionals here: https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/short-courses✍️ Get your Supervision Shaping Tool now: https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/supervision📱Connect socially with Marianne and check out ways to work with her, including the Aspiring Psychologist Book, Clinical Psychologist book and The Aspiring Psychologist Membership on her Link tree: https://linktr.ee/drmariannetrent💬 To join my free Facebook group and discuss your thoughts on this episode and more:

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, my name is Emily. I am a master's student studying clinical psychology at Southampton. I bought the book The Clinical Psychologist Collective to help myself prepare for my first round of doctorate applications and I'm so glad I did. Seeing how others have reflected on their journeys has been so insightful and it's given me a lot to reflect about with my own journey and skills. It's also helped to put things into perspective and reminded me that if I don't get onto the doctorate this year, that's okay. I think the most unexpected pleasure of this book, however, was just how inspirational
Starting point is 00:00:41 each and every person's journey was. And using these stories as my morning motivation each day has been such a pleasure. I'm almost reluctant to come to the end. What happens when trauma doesn't just happen once, but over years? When your body and brain are shaped by constant fear, neglect or harm, the result isn't just PTSD, it's complex PTSD. Today we are talking about what complex trauma really is, how it shows up in adulthood, and most importantly how healing is possible. I'll be sharing a fictional but realistic case study of Sarah, whose childhood experiences
Starting point is 00:01:19 led to a lifelong struggle with anxiety, self-doubt and relationships until she found the right help. Stay tuned because understanding complex trauma could well change the way you think about your own or someone else's mental health forever. Hi, welcome along to the Aspiring Psychologist podcast. I'm Dr. Marianne, a qualified clinical psychologist. Thank you to everybody who watched my previous episode on complex PTSD and OCD where I met with Alexandra who spoke through her own experiences of this and it's got lovely feedback, lots of views, lots of comments. If you haven't watched it or listened to it already, please do. However, I did also get a recent comment from somebody
Starting point is 00:02:05 that they had thought when they saw the title, this would be an informational video rather than one person's case study. They would welcome more of an explainer. So this is what today's episode is going to be. If you've got any feedback about this episode or future episodes you'd like to see, please do drop them in the comments
Starting point is 00:02:22 or get in contact with me via my social media where I'm Dr. Marianne Trent Everywhere. If you've ever heard the phrase complex trauma, complex PTSD or even C-PTSD but maybe wondered what it is, this is going to be a great episode for you. Because today we are going to cover what constitutes or what makes up complex trauma, how it shapes the brain and the body, a case study of what complex trauma might look like in real life and what healing can look like. So whether you're working or have an interest in psychology yourself, whether you have lived experience of complex trauma or you love someone who does, this is going to be a brilliant episode which gives you plenty of insight, validation,
Starting point is 00:03:07 hope and action plans too. So number one, what is complex trauma? When people imagine trauma and what that might look like, people often perhaps think about a single event. That might be a car crash or witnessing an accident or hurting yourself physically. It usually involves feeling pretty terrified. But complex trauma happens when someone experiences
Starting point is 00:03:29 chronic repeated trauma over months or years, often in their childhood. In fact, we often screen for the first 18 years of someone's life. Common causes of complex trauma include growing up with neglect or emotional abuse, experiencing physical or sexual abuse, having a caregiver with untreated mental illness
Starting point is 00:03:49 or addiction, being placed in foster care or experiencing other attachment disruptions. Because this type of trauma occurs in early life, it shapes the developing brain. This can lead to long-term effects on emotions, identity and relationships. This type of trauma is often called type two trauma, with type one trauma being the single event trauma,
Starting point is 00:04:10 such as the accidents or injuries. Okay, so now we've got a bit of an overview about what complex trauma is. Let's have a look at how it might look in a fictional case study example. Obviously the content of today's conversation might feel triggering if this feels like it resonates with you.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Please do look after yourself and if you feel like now might not be the right time to watch or to listen to this episode or if you're around young ears, please do choose to come back at a later stage. So let me introduce you to Sarah. She is a fictional case study but her experiences are based on real people with complex PTSD. So let's take a little look at Sarah's childhood. Sarah grew up in a household where
Starting point is 00:04:51 her parents were constantly arguing and her dad had violent outbursts. Sometimes he would hit her mum and Sarah would hide in the bathroom feeling completely terrified. She never knew what mood dad would be in when he got home from work. Sometimes he'd be fine. Sometimes he'd be fun. Sometimes he would explode over what seemed to be the smallest thing. In order to stay safe, Sarah seemed to learn that she had to be small, quiet and pleasing to those around her. She became overly independent from a young age. She never expressed her emotions because it felt like it was safer not to. She over achieved at school, trying to stay good to avoid conflict. So what was Sarah's adulthood like? Well, if we fast forward into Sarah's 30s, she
Starting point is 00:05:35 is a high functioning professional, but behind the scenes she struggles with anxiety, especially when she feels like she's upset somebody. She can't relax, she's always on edge waiting for things to go wrong. She has low self-worth, low self-esteem, feeling like she's never good enough. And I'm sorry to say that Sarah seems to attract controlling partners. This is a case where repeating patterns are playing out from childhood. A quick note on other complex trauma experiences. While Sarah's story hasn't included sexual abuse, for many this is what has happened in their childhood or young adulthood. Sexual abuse survivors often experience deep-rooted shame and self-blame, dissociation, a feeling of disconnection from their body, trust and intimacy issues. So of course, everybody's journey is so unique
Starting point is 00:06:27 and that's why trauma informed therapy is so useful because it should be bespoke and tailor-made to that person and their own unique experiences. If you would find it helpful to watch or listen to a full episode on this, please do let me know in the comments. So our third section, how does complex trauma show up in adulthood?
Starting point is 00:06:46 For many people, complex PTSD doesn't always look exactly like PTSD. In PTSD, you might have what's kind of feels like a classic flashback, where something that happened from the past is playing out in the present. That's not always the case with complex PTSD. Instead, it can show up as chronic anxiety
Starting point is 00:07:06 and hypervigilance, a sense of being on edge and tightly sprung and ready to react. It might look like emotional numbness or dissociation. It might feature struggles with boundaries and people pleasing. There might be a sense of feeling disconnected from your own needs, thinking that they don't matter or just not noticing them at all. And super commonly, there can be unexplained physical symptoms like migraines, IBS, fatigue, spinal, disc, neck, back problems, fibromyalgia. The list can be really long. For Sarah, this showed up as a sense that she always had to prove herself, never being
Starting point is 00:07:42 able to relax because she felt like she was stuck in survival mode. If any of this sounds familiar, it's not just who you are or your personality, it's a trauma response. Okay, so section four, our healing and therapy approaches for people with complex trauma. So healing from complex trauma is absolutely possible, but it requires the right therapeutic approach. I work one-to-one with people with complex trauma and I tend to weave Compassion Focused Therapy or CFT through everything that I do. CFT is an approach designed to help people struggling with shame, self-criticism and trauma by strengthening their ability to be compassionate both towards themselves and
Starting point is 00:08:25 others. It's based on the understanding that our brains evolved to have a threat system which is focused on danger and survival, a drive system pushing us to achieve our goals, and a soothing system which allows us to feel safe and cared for. For many trauma survivors, the threat system is overactive and they struggle to access the feelings of safety or self-kindness. In the context of PTSD and complex trauma, CFT is especially helpful for those who experience deep shame or self-criticism. It provides a pathway to self-acceptance and emotional resilience. And now feels like a great time to tell you about the Our Tricky Brain Psycho-Education Kit, which uses compassion-focused therapy to help
Starting point is 00:09:05 professionals in working through people's trauma, depression and grief. If you would like £10 off the kit please use the code YouTube10 and head to my website www.aspiring-psychologist.co.uk. So as I said I weave CFT through everything that I do. But there are also other approaches that I use and that are recommended for complex trauma too. So let's take a little look at those. So EMDR, you might have heard of that one. It's Eye Movement Desensitisation and Reprocessing.
Starting point is 00:09:41 I would say probably one of the biggest people to talk publicly about having received EMDR is Prince Harry. Of course he had a very unusual childhood and he spoke about feelings of disconnection from those that were raising him, especially after his mum Princess Diana died in a really tragic way. So what EMDR does is it helps the stuff from the past to kind of lay flatter. It's really good for processing, distressing memories and reducing trauma triggers.
Starting point is 00:10:13 This means that it helps to kind of assimilate things into people's lives so they feel less jagged and so that they feel like they took place many years ago rather than being really recent. Often when I'm working with someone using EMDR, they might say something to me like, wow, I've just realised this happened like, you know, 17 years ago, but I realised that until now ago, but I've realised that until now, it felt like it was still happening. And that is what EMDR helps you to do. I always think of it a little bit like dry cleaning for the brain or, you know, when you use a dishwasher and you're like, wow, that is squeaky clean. For me, it's like that. It kind of gets to the parts that other therapies don't always reach.
Starting point is 00:11:08 You don't have to necessarily access words and it kind of goes where it needs to go and people can find it to be a really powerful intervention. The next is what's called somatic therapy. This helps to release the stored trauma in the body through movement, breathwork and mindfulness. This might also include things like yoga that can be really really helpful because the ideas of Bessel van der Kol in his brilliant book The Body Holds the Score talks about, you know sometimes when our body is in particular positions, it can be really triggering because our body thinks, oh no, it's going to happen again because this is a position I was in when XYZ happened. And so being able to process the
Starting point is 00:11:56 traumas whilst in certain positions can be really powerful. Also being able to take a look at them from a calmer physiological state where your breathing is regulated can help the brain and the body to work out that it's in the past, it isn't happening now. Internal Family Systems, IFS. I know it might sound a little bit weird. It's the idea that we carry around younger parts or younger versions of ourselves or even versions of other people.
Starting point is 00:12:25 It helps us to heal those inner wounded parts that might sometimes be driving our bus. It might be a six-year-old version of ourselves that's determining what our 40-year-old self is doing in any given moment. So being able to kind of tune in to what their fears, what their drives, what their motivators are, can be really powerful in helping to take back control from that terrified younger child part self, allowing the child to be a child again and allowing you, the compassionate, wise grownup, to then be in charge.
Starting point is 00:13:01 This can be so powerful and can really stop the derailing aspect of complex trauma from stopping you being able to function and to go on and do the brilliant things that you want to be able to do in your adult life. And last but not least we have Schema Therapy that is working on the deep seated core beliefs formed in childhood trauma, which helps people to reframe their sense of self. Many of them will be available in your local NHS services. If you meet the access requirements for that service, alternatively if funds allow or you have insurance,
Starting point is 00:13:46 you can access private therapy with clinicians who are trained and qualified to be able to work through these approaches with you. If you are watching on YouTube, I would love your comments. Have you received any of these therapies? Have you heard of these therapies before? What are your hopes, your thoughts, your reflections? Please do let us know in the comments and if you resonate with anybody else in the comments, please do feel free to support them too, because it's so important. If you are a clinician, is this helping you feel inspired about wanting to learn these approaches so that you can help people in future too?
Starting point is 00:14:20 This might be a really nice opportunity to give a shout out to the people that trained me in EMDR. So Sandy Reichman, which is S-A-N-D-I, Reichman is R-I-C-H-M-A-N, and she trained me in EMDR through her company, but my EMDR supervisor, Dr Alexandra Button, is now running her own training events too. I don't get paid for telling you that, but I think it's really helpful to push you in the right direction if you do want to access quality robust training in EMDR. Now in order to be trained in EMDR in the UK you do need to have a professional qualification
Starting point is 00:14:59 already or be in your final year of something like a trainee psychologist doctorate. More information about that will be available on both Sandy Reichman's website and Dr Alex Button's website too. I will pop a link in the show notes and in the description. So what did you make of Sarah's story? Does she remind you of anyone that you have worked with or yourself or someone that you care about? If this has resonated with you, I want you to know that you are not broken. Your trauma responses most definitely have made sense for you in the past in order to help you to feel safe.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I also want you to know that healing is possible, even if right now it feels like it's out of reach. If you would like to learn methods to stabilize yourself, to learn about yourself and to learn about the unique impacts of complex trauma on your childhood and your adult self, please do consider the Feel Better Academy. If you would like £10 off the purchase price of the Feel Better Academy, please use the code YouTube10 on my website www.aspiring-psychologist.co.uk. The Feel Better Academy is a really useful program both for aspiring psychologists or mental health professionals to learn techniques to use with
Starting point is 00:16:13 their clients but it's actually designed for clients themselves to be able to go through and learn ways to self-soothe themselves which really do help people to make massive improvements in terms of their well-being and their functioning. It's all of the ways that I would usually work with a client in a one-to-one capacity but it's in a pre-recorded format that you can access whenever the time is right for you with unlimited access. Okay so that brings us to the end of our main content for today's session. I hope it's felt okay to listen to.
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