The Athletic Football Show: A show about the NFL - Building the Beast: The NFL Draft prospects to know from Indiana, Texas A&M, and this season's CFB surprise teams

Episode Date: October 15, 2025

Indiana is the #3 team in the country. Yes, in football. And they aren't the only big surprise this season. Texas A&M, Missouri and Cincinnati all have paths to the Playoff, as well. We've discussed a handful of players from those teams through an NFL Draft lens, but it's not just Fernando Mendoza and Marcel Reed doing work for their respective teams. On this episode of The Athletic Football Show's Building the Beast, Dane Brugler and Dave Helman go into the draft prospects you need to know from college football's surprise teams. The guys also discuss the effects of James Franklin's firing on Penn State's NFL Draft prospects and take a look ahead to Week 8.Rundown (timestamps are approximate)7:55 Indiana25:34 Texas A&M38:06 Missouri47:45 Cincinnati52:20 How James Franklin's firing could affect Penn State's NFL Draft prospects1:01:07 Week 8 LookaheadConnect with The Athletic Football ShowX: https://x.com/TA_FootballShowIG: https://www.instagram.com/tafootballshowYT: https://www.youtube.com/@TAFootballShowTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tafootballshowDiscord: http://discord.gg/theathleticfootballshowCall us: 847-448-0701Email us: [e-mail]: Dave HelmanCo-Host: Dane BruglerExecutive Producer: Michael BellerVideo Producer: Katy DuffyAudio Producer: Michael BellerSocial Producer: Scott KrinchFollow Dave on Bluesky: @davehelman.bsky.socialFollow Dave on X: @davehelman_Follow Dane on X: @dpbruglerTheme song: HauntedWritten by Dylan Slocum, Trevor Dietrich, Ruben Duarte, Kyle McAulay, and Meredith VanWoert / Performed by Spanish Love SongsCourtesy of Pure Noise / By arrangement with Bank Robber Music, LLC Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to another episode of Building the Beast. I am Dave Hellman. Every single week, Dane Bruegler and I dive in with the task of building the beast, his annual expansive, exhaustive NFL draft guide. It doesn't all just happen in March and April. It's a lot of hours, a lot of work during the college football season to identify the prospects that will make up the upcoming NFL draft class. Every week, we dive into the players you need to know.

know the prospects that are turning heads. And this week, we wanted to expand our focus a little bit. By this point in the season, we've talked plenty about the major prospects, the top teams. We want to take a look around the college football landscape, identify some surprising teams, some surprising players that maybe we haven't hit on yet that are turning heads, not to mention the big news coming out of State College, Pennsylvania, Penn State, parting ways with James Franklin, what that might mean for a team that, regardless of

their record is stacked with NFL prospects. A lot to get into there. Another fun episode with Dan and I. Let's get into it. As always in these episodes of Building the Beast, I'm joined by my buddy, my co-host, Dane Bruegler, which, Dan, I had a whole joke lined up for you about Ohio being like the epicenter of college football right now and also an NFL wasteland. At the risk of being mean, though, like, I feel like that's been the case more often than not these last few decades. There's a theme, right? I mean, it's, it's funny because, you know, I grew up born and raised Northeast Ohio and, you know, Canton is a stones throw away. So it's like the, you know, where football started. And, you know, it's a, it's a very rich place for high school football, college football.

It's not just Ohio State. I mean, everyone, you know, the Mac is big here, Mount Union, obviously. So, but yeah, the NFL, it's just, it's, it's. from the 90s till now, you know, my lifespan, it's never been big for professional football, unfortunately, which is, it's a shame for all the fans in this area who live and die with those teams each weekend. At least Cincinnati has had a reprieve here

these last four or five years, but this season feeling unfortunately really familiar for that half of the state too. But if you're listening to this as a draft person, you get to spend a lot of time hoping that maybe your team will come away with a Buckeye or two because there's going to be plenty of them. Yeah, I mean, I think both the Bengals and the Browns last few years, that's been a strategy. Let's just go to Columbus and see what these guys are doing.

And, you know, it's worked out okay for both teams. But yeah, it's going to be another one of those years, Ohio State, number one in the nation, for a reason. And I mean, is it just me or does it seem like really NFL and college? there's maybe a little more parity this year. Like I know Ohio State's won, but I don't know. Like if they lost the Michigan again this year, I don't think it'd be like the craziest thing after what we saw happened last November.

It just seems like this year is a little more wide open NFL-wise and college football in terms of the top teams. Like I'm watching those games last night, Monday night football. Again, the NFC is like the top 12 teams have a shot. Like the commanders are right now like the 12th team in the NFC in terms of record and some of those metrics, it just seems like a little more. And I know the AFC is they've got some more bad teams, but some of the surprise teams,

whether it's the Colts or what the Chargers are doing or, you know, the Patriots, it just seems like a little more wide open. College, there's not against maybe with the exception of Ohio State and maybe Miami. Like we thought Oregon was in that tier, but after what happened over the weekend, maybe not. So it just feels like a right. now, at least this season, NFL, college football, a little more wide open at the top than maybe

we are expected to see year in, year out. You set me up for this beautifully, man. It's almost like we have production meetings or something. But that is, that's kind of to be expected in the NFL, even if, even if this year does feel a little more wide open than usual, that's, that's the NFL's whole goal. It's not as normal to see it in college football. And it really does feel like this could. be the new normal with NIL increasing the desirability of many other teams outside of the usual suspects. And you're absolutely right. There's, there are more good teams and conversely fewer just absolutely dominant teams than it feels like we've ever seen before. I mean, I think last season was a similar story, but we're really hammering at home this year. And I, I want that to be

the theme of this show. We call it Building the Beast. We're not here to fixate on the best programs that are chock full of blue chip prospects. We want to look throughout the college football landscape and tell you who you need to be looking for across the sport. There are good players everywhere. And the fact that there are more good players in more maybe uncommon places than ever before leads to some interesting results on Saturday. So the bulk of this show, what I want to do is talk about some teams. that are surprising a little bit and climbing higher up the rankings, winning games, maybe they weren't expected to win.

And obviously, we don't really care what that means for the playoff picture. But if you're stringing enough wins together in a row, I want to know who these guys are that are helping you do it. So that's the goal today. And we've talked about them plenty before, but mainly in the context of their quarterback. And that is the Indiana Hoosiers who, look, I'm sorry. I'll just, I'll wear it. I don't care.

I expected Oregon to win that game. I expected that game to look a lot like what it did last year for Indiana, which is, yes, you are definitely a good team. But there's levels to this stuff. You know, we saw what Indiana looked like against Ohio State and against Notre Dame. And if you watched this game out in Eugene, Oregon, completely not the case here. This Indiana team, they won by double digits. They held Oregon to their only second half touchdown in that game. a pick six.

They just absolutely maybe, maybe beat the brakes off the ducks is a little harsh, but they firmly outplayed Oregon. And so I want to highlight some of the guys on this team that are making this thing go. What did what did you think of Indiana on the whole on Saturday Day and just what they're doing this season? Yeah, I mean, along the lines of what you're saying, coming into the game, I think we were most interested to see the quarterbacks, right? especially from a scouting perspective.

And honestly, these guys, Dante Moore, Oregon, Fernando Mendoza, Indiana, it was probably the most underwhelming performance for both that they've had all season. And I think that speaks highly of the Hoosiers in that program and Kurt Zignetti that they can go on the road, win against a top three opponent, without the quarterback truly carrying them. And I think that's because, I mean, let's look at it. Deep into the fourth quarter, let's say midway through the fourth quarter. It was a 20 to 20 game.

There were swings back and forth. I think credit to both defenses, the way they played, the Indiana defense, they allowed one touchdown. And that one touchdown was a bust that the safety was frozen by that sprint out action, easy throw over the top for Dante Moore. But I think I go back to these defenses. Neither of the offenses were very good on third downs through three and a half quarters. Indiana was two for nine on third downs. the two conversions were Mendoza with his legs and just, you know, taking the yards when they were there.

But I think credit to Indiana for playing their best when it counted, the final eight game or final eight minutes of this game, Mendoza throws that pick six midway through the fourth quarter like you mentioned. And then it was a bad throw. I mean, he tried to throw it off his back foot. He left it short. Credit to the freshman DB made a play, returns it for the touchdown.

So now Indiana, they get the ball back and it's like, okay, let's see how they respond. Bond, they marched down and scored the go-head touchdown. They had two huge third downs, and they converted both of them. Mendoza to Elijah Surrott, that was the theme of that drive. And it's the first one, beautiful pivot route by Surratt and then the back shoulder for the touchdown. He also, Sarat also had that motion screen.

That was a perfect call into the Oregon. They were running zone. And he picked up 30 yards in that play. So I give a ton of credit to Mendoza for eliminating that pick. six from his memory and then just going down and helping win the game. But to me, and this kind of goes along with the way you wanted to set up this conversation, Surrott was the key takeaway from that drive. Three catches, three targets, three catches, 50 yards and the winning touchdown.

Love the connection that him and Mendoza have. The first play of the game was a 20-yard back shoulder. And that's kind of, they love to live outside the numbers, or at least. outside the hashes. It's a very RPO heavy offense with Indiana, and it's a lot of timing routes, a lot of routes where the receiver and quarterback better be on the same page, or it's in completion at best, pick six at worst. And you can tell how in tune these two guys are with Sarat. I mean, he's a good-sized target, 6-2-10. I think he'll probably run in the four-fours. Now it might be a 4-48, but it'll be in the 4-4s. I really like a short area of quickness.

I think we saw it on that pivot route where, okay, sell the slant, hard stop, burst back outside. He's a former hooper. And I think that's very unsurprising when you watch his playstyle, reliable hands. You like the body control. I wish he was a little better in contested situations. But Serrat's a player, man. And he's got a fun journey. He was a zero-star recruit.

I think he was one of those guys that COVID. It really impacted his recruitment and the ability for teams, for colleges, get eyes on him. He starts out at St. Francis, which is an FCS program, was pretty good that one year. Transfer to James Madison, had his breakout in 2023, transfers to Indiana last year. And so these past two years, he has been outstanding. He leads the FBS right now in first down catches. He has an 80% rate of moving the chains or scoring a touchdown on his receptions. And so he's really putting himself in the mix to be a potential top 100 pitch.

That was the number one thing that stood out to me watching the Indiana offense back was, I mean, Sarat for sure. And a guy that you've mentioned several times, but Omar Cooper Jr. as well. And you're so right. Like Indiana was feasting outside the hashashes in this game. Like the trust that Mendoza has in those two guys to go out and win their matchups. And they did time and time again. I mean, Surratt just as a ball winner and the separation.

that he was able to create and the trust that Mendoza had to make anticipatory throws and and get hit get just get the ball to him and then Cooper is just a very quarterback friendly target that was my big takeaway from him like if you put it on him he's going to come away with it I mean the one-handed snag that he made and and the run after catch there to pick up a first exactly yeah yeah that was awesome those two guys are incredibly impressive and yeah man Kurt, Kurt Signetti, I mean, I think this whole thing starts with getting Fernando Mendoza to come over from Cal, but his eye for talent is very, very impressive. Obviously, Indiana being what it's been for most of its history, you're counting on identifying and developing lesser known players into more polished products. And it looks like a few of these guys are going to have a shot to be drafted high in this upcoming draft.

These three in particular, but across the roster, I mean, with the development that we've seen from these teams over the last couple years, that seems sustainable. Yeah, I think you're right. And it's it's not just identifying the talent, but getting them on campus and then developing them. And I think that's exactly what they're doing. You know, so much of this early success for Indiana has been the JMU transfers, guys that Kurt Signetti had at James Madison brought over in Indiana. and so now that next step will be okay making sure they're getting the guys from the high school level keeping guys in state you know like Caden Curry at Ohio State defensive end who we've talked about before is you know leads the Buckeyes and sacks so far this year he was an Indiana guy I mean he

he wanted to go to Indiana but when Ohio State offered it was like I this isn't really a I can't I can't pass on the Buckeyes to stay home and play for the Hoosiers and you understood that decision four years ago. Now it's a much tougher decision for these guys. And so I think that'll be key for Signetti. I think, well, first and foremost, hopefully, and I'm not the first one

to suggest this, but hopefully he stays at Indiana. I mean, Penn State, obviously, has a big opening we'll talk about here in a little bit. I would love to see Indiana hold on to Signetti and let him keep developing the program and all that. But yeah, and I mentioned

the JME transfers on defense, the one guy that sticks out more than other is Aiden Fisher, the linebacker. He's another JMU guy. He is the straw that stirs the drink on that side of the ball. He's a little undersized. He's six foot, 230 pounds. He feels small on tape at times, but man, the play speed, the instincts, he only knows attack mode.

Sometimes that'll backfire a little bit, but he's instinctive. The scouts say that he's the best leader on the team, by far. he's what holds the locker room together. All the intangibles are there that will matter to NFL teams. So the feedback on him has been early on day three, but he's a guy that's going to stick because of the way he's wired, the way he plays, and just keeps impacting the game both what we see on tape and then behind the scenes.

I was really impressed by the way he navigated the trash against Oregon and just managed to be around the football no matter. You know, there was a rep. I think it was in the third quarter. where he just ducked under a block and got to the ball carrier on like a little, you know, quick screen to the receiver. And I mean, good college linebackers do that, but it's still cool to see against an offense that's done as much as Oregon's has.

And yeah, I mean, considering it was at home and considering how glowingly we've talked about him, Dante Moore, not a great day at the office. And this Indiana defense, I mean, it was, it was eye opening. And Aiden Fisher, a name to know, is there anybody else that stood out to you? I know Mikhail Kamara, the defensive end out of Indiana. I think he had at least some sort of draftable grade during the summer. I don't know where that stands now. But across the board, this unit looked really good against an offense that we've been impressed by.

Really will coach. They're buttoned up. Very assignment sound. I mean, really that bust for the touchdown for Oregon's touchdown in the first. half. That was really one of the few times watching the tape back where it was like, oh, yeah, that's, you got caught looking in the wrong place and Oregon made him pay. Mikhail Camara, yeah, he led the team in Sacks and pressures last year, and he's doing it again this year. He's not a, he's not someone you're going to see pop up in first round mock drafts,

average size, average speed, but I like how he uses his length. And he has a good feel for timing in his rush. So that initial move, how to counter, you know, he'll break out a spin move. He'll break out an inside long arm. He'll do different things to mix up what he's throwing at you. So NFL Scouts kind of viewed him as a late round guy coming into the year. And so it's been on him to kind of prove, hey, I'm a little bit better than that. Even if it's, we're talking mid-round's, he seems like a guy you won as part of your defensive line rotation. And then in the secondary at corner DeAngelo Ponds, he's small. There's no way around it.

He's listed at 59-170. I don't have official verified, but if he's listed at 5-9-1-70, you know, the official size is probably a little bit worse than that. He's just so dang competitive. He's, it seems almost, you know, we say a lot with these undersized guys. Oh, he's feisty. He's, well, he kind of fits that, that bill. I mean, it's exactly what he is.

He will get after it. He makes up for his lack of size with the way he competes, how physical he is. So DeAngelo Pons, he's a junior. If he does come out, I think he'll be, you know, somewhere in that probably third, fourth round mix because the size will work against him. But he's someone that you can see sticking in the league. It'd be fun to see Indiana transition from the hunter to the hunted because after a game like this, they are, I mean, if they weren't already on your radar, they're about to be.

And the schedule doesn't look terribly daunting the rest of the way. I mean, they do have to navigate a. road game to Penn State, even though they just fired James Franklin, that's obviously a roster with a lot of talent. Plus, the added wrinkle that perhaps Penn State will be sniffing around Kurt Signetti. I'm getting ahead of myself, but they now have to string together a second half of the season where the target is firmly on their back if it wasn't already. No doubt. And last week on the pod, we mentioned, oh, it's looking like, you know, Ohio State Oregon Showdown, Big Ten championship game because they didn't play in the regular season.

season. Well, heck, same thing with Indiana. Ohio State, Indiana, do not play in the regular season. But at this rate, it's sure looking like we could see these two teams match up at the Big Ten championship game at the end of the year. And Ohio State got the best of them last year. It was a pretty competitive game. Caleb Downs punt return touchdown kind of swung things later on. But this is a different, it feels like a different Indiana team this year. And so I think that'd be, signed me up for that one. I think it'd be a lot of fun to watch. This is not important to our show, but just as general commentary. I am interested. I feel like in this new era of college football, I think it's less of a slam dunk that a Kurt

Cignetti would just leave Indiana for a program like Penn State. And we're going to talk about Penn State later in the show. But it feels like we talked about at the beginning. It feels like the playing field is a little bit more level. And I don't want to speak too soon. But I don't think those jumps to those sorts of programs are as automatic as they used to be. I think a school like Indiana has more options available to it to try to keep somebody like this. I'm interested to see how that goes. One one area that I think we usually see a big difference between what we perceive as lower level programs and the top of the top is in the trenches, right? Where it's just these guys are just bigger, stronger, more powerful. But I, there. And that did not look like the case on.

Saturday. And this is a very veteran Indiana offensive line. I don't think they're loaded with prospects. I think probably Carter Smith, the left tackle is probably the best of the group and he's a junior. You know, the Kugan, the transfer center from Notre Dame. He's solid, but he's

more of a PFA who's, you know, trying to convince scouts, he belongs in the draft. But it just goes to, I think, what we mentioned before, how buttoned up they are, the coaching. They will hit you in the mouth. They are very physical. And there wasn't a ton of plays in this game where you thought, oh, yeah, the Oregon defensive line or offensive line just dominated their opponent in this one.

So this Indiana team, it's not just the quarterback. It's not just the skill talent. The defense shows up as well at every level. And the offensive line plays well enough to give their team a shot. So, yeah, I think this team is for real. They belong in where they're ranked. Kurt Signetti, you know, I was debating people on Twitter yesterday or Saturday during the game about where Cignetti belongs in the hierarchy of coaches in college football.

And I said, listen, guys, what's his biggest win so far at Indiana? Is it Illinois? I mean, we just doesn't have that yet. All right. Well, he got it on Saturday against Oregon. He now has that one win you can point to and say, hey, that's something that you can, you know, really build off of. He's got it now, a program defining win for Indiana. It would be fun to keep track of how they keep that going.

we got plenty of other surprise. I would, yeah, surprise teams we want to get to, teams that maybe we haven't featured a lot on this show that are making a name for themselves and their prospects. We're going to do that on the other side of the break. All right, Dane, the next team I want to talk about, let's be clear, this is not a Cinderella team. This is an SEC program that has put a lot of players in the NFL.

We know all about them. But a little bit of unusual. territory for the Texas A&M Aggies, who I think it's worth highlighting after they beat Florida by three scores on Saturday. They are six and oh for the first time in a decade. They are ranked in the top five looking very much like they belong in the SEC championship picture, at least at the halfway point of the season. And I basically just wanted to know, all right, well, if you're good enough to start six and oh as an SEC team and you played Notre Dame on the road early in the year, surely you got to have some NFL guys on your roster that makes you worth highlighting.

And having, you know, dug into it over a couple of days, I feel safe saying that is the case about this Texas A&M team. Yeah. I mean, the Aggies always have NFL guys, right? Like they, the, whether it's through recruiting NIL, they're always going to get talent there. It's just can they find enough consistency throughout the roster to stack wins? And last year, it felt like maybe they were. close and then they fell apart later in the year.

This year it does feel like with the way that Marcel Reed is playing at quarterback and some of the supporting cast, it feels like they have a shot to, because you look at the schedule, okay, Arkansas coming up. They have to go to Missouri, which we'll talk about Missouri here in a little bit. That's not going to be an easy game. But then, of course, at the end of the year, regular season, Texas, waiting for them, which will be a lot of fun just to see where both these teams are. at the end of the season in their development.

One development for the Aggies is Levyon Moss now out with the ankle. He is a guy. That is a little bit of a bummer, yeah. Because last year he was out, he had an ACL. So he missed like the last four games last year. And that was a bummer. That kind of punched his ticket to he's coming back. You know, maybe he went to the NFL after last year.

Definitely coming back after the ACL. Now he's got the ankle. He's going to be out for a little while, you know, probably a month or so. he's your classic downhill, one cut, tempo, he's going to press the hole type of back. And he'll break off a big run here or there. But he's a grinder. He will get you those tough yards. He's going to get drafted, no doubt.

And I still think he will. This ankle injury is not going to all of a sudden change that. But him not being out there will at least hurt this offense a little bit. And it's noticeable when he's not on the field. I agree with that. And I do think A&M's offense. took a little bit of a step back in the Florida game after he went out with the ankle injury. But one thing that gives me optimism if I'm an A&M fan is,

holy hell, this offensive line, brother. I mean, if I am an NFL fan that needs help on the offensive line, and maybe we're not talking about like top 10 guys, that's fine. But there are prospects all over this offensive line. little nugget that I got from Saturday and you see it if you turn on the game against Florida, which, which mind you, I know Florida's in a bad way by their standards right now, but their defense gave LSU, Miami, and Texas fits. Like they, I mean, they got talent on their defense.

A&M ran the ball for 183, did not allow a sack or a TFL and was not flagged. their offensive line was not flagged in this game. They mauled these guys. And I came away impressed with like two or three different guys, but I think the guy I would mention first is their left tackle, Trey Zune, who also played center during this game, by the way. So dominance on top of versatility is very interesting to me.

Well, and that's what scouts want to see because he is a college left tackle who's going to move inside in the NFL. He's just looking at him, he looks like a tackle because he's over 6-6, he's 315 pounds. But I think that his skill set, his arm length, he's going to move inside, whether it's guard or center. But the fact that he has that versatility, position flex, where in a pinch you need him to move the guard, in a pinch you need to move outside the tackle, that is absolutely something that's going to help him come draft day. When, you know, he's in a stack of offensive linemen, and it's like, all right, well, let's take the more versatile guy. So yeah, Tray Zune, definitely someone who is in, everybody wanted him out of high school. I mean, he was Ohio State wanted him.

I mean, he was a highly recruited player. He started almost immediately after he got on campus. And so he's got a lot of experience. And really that entire left side of the Aggies offensive line, Bessontas, the left guard, he's a junior. So he'll have an NFL decision to make after the year. Both these guys, when they're working in tandem, it's a lot of fun to watch. It's, they work off each other really well, communicate really well. But I think you could say that about the entire offensive line, like what you were referring to.

That's, that's something that will help this team a lot. And I know they've got LSU still on the schedule too. Watching this A&M offensive line against that LSU front seven, that'll be something that's a lot of fun to watch. I know I don't have to tell you about that LSU front that they've, not I want to say that the front seven. We got to include those linebackers in there. that A&M offense against LSU defense will be must see TV for sure. I mean, not to take, not to take any credit away from Marcel Reed, but watching them against Florida,

my guy was statuesque in the pocket, just completely unbothered by any pass rushers the way that they were just walling him off. I mean, Zune, Zune has allowed three pressures, one hit and one sack on the season. You mentioned Chase Posontes, the left guard, five pressures, no sacks. Again, that's on this season. Just absolutely silly numbers, even by college football standards. And yeah, it's helping, it's helping everybody out. Wide receiver, Casey Concepcion is another guy that I think you've got to mention. There's a lot of talent on this A&M team, but I just feel like the offensive line is,

is giving everybody a chance to show their stuff. I think you're exactly right. Now on defense, I think is where they've got some holes, but they also have a lot of talent. Tori and York, the linebacker, to me, he's kind of the key to this defense. You watch him on tape, and he feels like the extension of the coaching staff on the field. The football IQ, the communication skills, the play speed. He trusts what he sees and he goes. It's fun to watch when it's clicking.

Now, he has safety size. I mean, he looks like a safety out there, even though he plays linebacker. that complicates the evaluation a little bit. But he's an easy player to like with just the way he plays, his smarts. And a guy we've talked about before, Cassius Howell, the pass rusher. And as a prospect, he's going to be really interesting because he's, to me, more of a DPR that designated pass rusher, 6-2-250. But I love how much violence that he plays with. And there's just, there's twitch in the way that he attacks, whether it's against the run or as a pass-rrrusher.

So, you know, that helps him get off blocks. It helps him avoid blocks. I have my doubts that he's going to be an NFL starter, but I want him in my rotation on the edge, a guy that you're going to bring him fresh off the bench and he's going to give you quality reps. And so that, you know, does he get drafted maybe early day three? Does he sneak into the top 100? Maybe.

I don't know. But as a projection to the next level, I like him as a rotational player who I know I want as just those fresh legs coming off the bench and giving me quality reps. I heard from a scout this week that if Howell had like longer, more prototypical NFL style arms, we'd be talking about him like in the in the Rubin Bain sort of breath, which when you watch him play, not just violence dude, but a real chip on his shoulder is probably the nice way to say it.

Like he is a, he is a sassy, player. He's going to let you know that he's kicking your ass. For reference, so he, for defensive ends, for pass rushers, you want at least, you would love over 34 inch arms, but you want at least 33. And maybe you can live with 32 and a half. He is under 31 inch arms. That, that's an issue. That's something that is, it works against him when you're, it's just physics, right? I mean, it's just, it's, when you're going up against long levered blockers who can attack you before you can get to them. And in the NFL, those guys can control you.

And so that's part of why I say I think he's a DPR. But I don't think he's a nothing versus a run because of that violence you're talking about. So, yeah, because of some of the way he's built, I think it'll be tough for him to be a starter, maybe even tough for him to go top 100. But somewhere on day three, he's a guy that I think teams will look at and say, yeah, we want him as part of our mix on the defensive line. if you've been listening to the show all season, he was the guy that had three sacks in a row against Bowling Green. And it was kind of, it felt like a novelty at the time.

And you're like, okay, well, how much does it mean if you get three sacks against Bowling Green? He has eight sacks on the season. He has five sacks in SEC play. And another three sack game against Mississippi State. So at the very least,

he is producing consistently and impressively against stepped up competition. David Bailey, our guy from Texas Tech is the only player from a power four team that has more sacks. And he's at eight and a half. So that's a good number to have in the SEC, no doubt. We've talked plenty about Texas Tech. But David Bailey, by the way, with another silly performance against Kansas over the weekend, just video game numbers. It's, I think it's fair to question some of the tackles he's going up again. but you know what he can't help that you know he's he's going out there and beating the guy in

front of him and you know he deserves he deserves all the first round love for what he's doing anybody else from a and m that we're forgetting about i know we've talked about will lee on this show before the cornerback yeah i mean will lee he he's stuck into my top 50 um as a guy that is i and m they run so much zone and so um you know he i think he's a he's a he's a player that is smart. He's instinctive, and I think he works well like that. You know,

the other corner there, Des Ricks, he's super talented. I think it was the Auburn tape where he kind of, he really stood out. And it's like, okay,

this guy's a player with how talented he is. But then, you know, watching him like the Florida tape, and they just, they kept targeting him over and over again.

And the mistackles were really an issue with Ricks. You know, I don't need my corners to be outstanding. tacklers, but I need you to get them on the ground. Plain and simple. You cannot miss tackle, especially the way today's NFL game is, how much the NFL game

has played on the edges. I need you to be able to tackle. And so that's one area where, you know, Rick's needs to get better, but man, he's talented. So I think this A&M secondary, they've got some dudes that we'll be talking about as NFL players. Not trying too hard to poke fun at my Aggie friends, but talking about Indie. Indiana. A&M is a program that hasn't always thrived in the spotlight. And so I think this is a huge opportunity for this team. Their next three games, you mentioned them. Arkansas, LSU, Missouri,

not only is that a fairly formidable slate, but they're all road games. And Arkansas is in Fayetteville, by the way. They're not playing that at Jerry World the way that they often have. So a true road game, I'm curious to see how they handle it. And it will say, like I said, it'll say a lot to me if they can handle the spotlight of being a top five team and undefeated this late into the year and keep it rolling. But they look good enough to do it, which hasn't always been the case. Right. So the SEC's tough to go through. It's just a gauntlet, right?

And so, but they deserve their praise for what they've done here for the first six games. let's keep it rolling i just mentioned them we'll just stay in the SEC and they actually lost on saturday but similar to indiana dane i went into the missouri alabama game and in my head i was like okay missouri you're you're five and oh that's very nice for you we're all very proud but tie simpson is playing great and this is alabama and alabama seems to have shaken off whatever happened to them in week one and and to bama's credit, they got the win late against the Tigers, but Missouri absolutely looked like they belonged on the field in this loss to Alabama where they, I mean, they had a chance to win it.

I hate to pick on Bo Pribula, but he had a guy wide open on that final drive on the pass where he eventually threw the game ceiling interception. This very easily could have gone in Missouri's favor and we would definitely be talking about them. But halfway through the season, five and one much better than we've come to expect from Missouri. Who do you want to highlight as to why that might be the case? I know where I would start, but what do you think? I mean, he's not draft eligible, but Amad Hardy, the true sophomore running back. I mean, he's, I was so disappointed when I looked him up a few weeks ago and found out that

he's not eligible. I was like, damn it. Yeah, I know. He's so much fun. The contact balance, how strong he runs. My gosh, he's fun. He arguably the best running back in the country. Just in terms of production and what he does.

So, yeah, he's a lot of fun. And no matter what, he's going to give you, he's going to give Missouri a chance to win every single week because of what he brings in the ground game. I would start with the defensive line. Where were you going to start? I'm curious. That's exactly what I was going to start.

Because if you flick on this game, you just watch these guys wreaking havoc on Alabama's defensive line. They were, I mean, And I think we've brought up Zion Young a few times on this show. But Damon Wilson also really caught my eye. And so I went, you know, I did some digging after I watched this game back. And I was like, ah, Missouri has three defensive lines that had draftable grades during the summer. Like good draftable grades, by the way, heading into the season.

And I'm not surprised that that's the case between Zion Young, Damon Wilson, and Chris McClellan. Yeah, and what, at least two of them are transfers, right? Because, yeah, Damien Wilson, Georgia, McClellan, Florida, I believe. And Zion Young, he made my top 50, preseason top 50, snuck in there. And a lot of it's based off, a lot of it was based on potential and upside. Because this is a guy that's 6, 5, 255 pounds, super long arms. And I think sometimes we can get obsessed with the length. how much it matters.

I guess Alabama, you saw how much that length mattered, whether it was poking the ball out for the force fumble, which if his arms are an inch shorter, he's not getting to it. Some of the plays where blockers are just not able to control him because of the way he can out lever and out leverage the point of attack. And sometimes it works against him because he's a little bit taller and he needs to be a little more natural with his knee bend to get underneath guys.

But with that length, it helps make up. for some of the leverage concerns with him. But the way that those guys are playing, the constant pressure they're putting on the pocket, on the quarterback, they play just as well versus the passer, rushing the passer as they do stop in the run as well. That defensive line as a whole is just a lot of fun to watch.

And they've done a really nice job. You can tell it was a point of emphasis. Let's build up this defensive line and make sure that, you know, it's going to be a strength for our team. Bama's right tackle, all due respect to him, had a rough time with these guys. I was curious for your thoughts on how Caden Proctor held up. Proctor, man, he's a struggle, right?

It's just, like, every week is something a little bit new with what he's, he's on the ground too much. There are some plays that you're like, all right, yeah, we're going in the right direction. The timing's a little bit better. but then he'll have a few plays where it's just like man what are you doing like it's the hands and the feet aren't on the same page he gets out leveraged way too easily he's not getting the proper depth with in some of his past protection um i thought overall missouri was better than some of what he did earlier in the year but as a whole it's just not what you want to see from a guy we thought could be a top 10 pick i don't know what did what did you see when you watched them I mean, there was the one rep that stands out to me, I think it was Zion Young just like took him for not like took him for a ride and like dumped him behind the quarterback. I think Ty Simpson got out of it and checked out.

Which, oh yeah, by the way, Ty Simpson, I think he's my favorite quarterback playing college football this year. I don't, I'm not trying to stack anybody or or make projections. But Ty Simpson, the light bulb is on and stays. on. I am very impressed with this guy. But yeah, Caden Proctor, I thought it was up and down. It wasn't, it certainly wasn't bad enough to stop Ty Simpson from doing what he needed to do. But I think you, you said it best, dude. On Saturday, I messaged you about Ty Simpson and you said Mac Young with better mobility,

which I, or I was, Mac Young, Jesus. Mac Jones, yeah, with better mobility. I liked that a lot because, like, he, his his athleticism, his mobility is, is a weapon. Like it, he has it. Like he's not some statue back there on top of his processing and the throws that he's capable of making. I think the world of the guy. Yeah.

And when you dig into his background, you're like, oh, how his dad is a 20-year head coach at the FCS level. Hmm, okay. That, that, a little bit of that rubbed off on him. You can tell he, you know, grew up around the game. with the way that he carries himself, the way he plays. And, oh, yeah, okay, he starting at three years old. He was in a college football locker room and on the practice field.

And so he got his football education, you know, right there on the practice field at a Division I program. So that, I think, speaks a lot to the way he grew up. I mean, it's Jim Harbaugh gave him his first scholarship when he's in the eighth grade. This is a guy who has been, people have liked for a long time. It's just so rare nowadays that a guy graduates college before he gets his first start at the college level. Like that just doesn't happen. But it just he waited his time behind Bryce Young and then two years of Jailen Milrow. And since, you know, it's tough with a guy that has literally a handful of starts.

Like how excited do you get? We've kind of gone through this with Dante Moore at Oregon. We're going through this right now with Ty Simpson. it's like man, what he's doing out there is really impressive. It's all repeatable. It's all very consistent. You can understand his decision making why he's doing this, why he's doing that. And he will use the entire field.

He'll find that backside dig. He will find the open receiver. He had a couple of plays in this game on the Missouri tape that were just like, yeah, that might be his best throw of what he's done all year. So I'm with you. I'm a big fan of Tysim. you know, figuring out exactly where he falls in the pecking order of these quarterbacks is a different discussion just in terms of, all right, what's his ceiling at the next level?

And, you know, does he even come out after this year? Like, he's an older guy. And so I could absolutely understand if he does. But, you know, he'll have 13, 14, whatever it is, starts to his name. And that's not ideal for going to be an NFL pro. But, yeah, it's, we at least have to bring up Ty Simpson because each one, week, he is doing something that makes you sit up in your seat and say, all right, this guy is for real.

We don't have to stack anybody. It's not even Halloween yet. We can simply say, Ty Simpson is pretty off to a pretty exciting start to his career and what that might mean for his draft stock. Anyway, the point being, go watch Missouri's defensive line. They play Auburn this weekend, which not a good record, but some good offensive linemen on that team. That'll be fun to watch. Let's wrap this up with another exciting team in Ohio Dane. It's not Ohio State, but the Cincinnati Bearcats off to a five and one start playing

some good football as of late. To quote our buddy Robert Mays, they have my attention. What can you tell me about them? And I was pretty excited for them coming into the year, knowing some of the talent that they had, but they looked just awful in the opener when they lost in Nebraska. And so it was like, okay, well, maybe this just is not coming. together. All right. Well, after that, it is, they've played really well and they're getting better and better each week. Brendan Sorsby, the quarterback is a fun player that we're not talking enough about. He's a junior and he might not be in this in this class. I'd love to see him go back, get better, just be a little more consistent with his mechanics and some of his timing and his

accuracy. But if you take his 10 best highlight throws from this year, you're going to say, sign me up and just, I mean, he is a fun player. He's big. and he moves well. He's a really good athlete for that size. And he has javelin shots all over his tape. So Brandon Sorsby is a name to know. Joe Royer, one of my top tight ends. We talked about him last week a little bit.

On defense, Jake Golda, linebacker that I'm super excited about. 64, 240 can run, can blitz, can drop, can cover. And then Dante Corleone, you know, the godfather, one of the best nicknames in college football. He's a Cincinnati guy. through and through had chances to leave. He's, yeah, he's not going anywhere. He's a Cincinnati guy.

Hopefully the Bengals draft him. That'd be a lot of fun. He's a, he's more of your short, squatty run plugger. Not very rangy, but he'll hold the point of attack. And so, you know, there's definitely a need around the league for those types of guys. Stop me if you've heard this before, but a big 12 team playing good football that doesn't have too daunting of a schedule up in front of them. But I can't wait to see how the big.

12 shakes out with all the weirdness that's still to come in league play there. Utah is a good team. I mean, obviously Texas Tech, they're top 10. They're undefeated. Like, you know, we've talked a lot about Texas Tech and what they're doing. I mean, Arizona states, one of those teams that is going to play spoiler down the stretch for for these teams. And we're going to look up in November. They're going to be right in the mix. So, yeah, it's going to be the Big 12 for as, I don't want to call mediocre, but it's, all these teams are a little more on the same level. And so we'll see if Texas Tech can actually follow through or if a team like Cincinnati might take the lead.

It'll be a fun college football storyline to watch the rest of the way. Few new teams, plenty of new prospects for you to keep your eye on moving forward. We're going to take our final break. When we come back and talk about the biggest news of the college football week and how that affects the 2026 draft cycle. I'm going to talk some Penn State. All right, Dane, I alluded to it just now. Penn State was undefeated playing for the top of the rankings, all of the prestige imaginable just a few weeks ago.

And now James Franklin is out of a job. The Nittany Lions fall from preseason number two to out of the polls and looking for a new coach. One of the wildest stories I can remember in college football in recent memory. Obviously, from the standpoint of like who Penn State. might hire and all that good stuff like that doesn't pertain to us but i do i want to have a conversation with you about what this means for a pen state roster that as disappointing as the nittany lions might be is still chock full of NFL talent and i do think this is a really interesting storyline to watch

how those guys respond to one of the most disappointing seasons in recent memory and kind of digging out of that and understanding that you still have a job to do if you're trying to get drafted into the NFL and what that might look like. What a tightrope. I mean, if in double overtime game against Oregon, if Oregon doesn't get that touchdown, I mean, Penn State wins that game and who knows what the last two weeks look like against UCLA Northwestern. Just, yeah, it's crazy.

But whenever we have a midseason high profile firing like this, I'm always a little more interested in the prospects on that team. because I want to see, okay, who shuts it down? Who goes into cruise control and has one foot out the door? And then who really digs in and focuses on keeping the team together and saying, I still have a chance to put good things on tape. And that's something that will matter through my draft process. So Penn State's a great example for this.

You know, if you want to talk about coaching candidates and all that, that's a different podcast. You know, listen to Bruce and Stu and those guys. But we're going to talk about the prospects. And I think for Drew Shelton, left tackle, he's a great example for this, right? I love the size and speed, 6-5-305, outstanding foot quickness, the athletic ability is outstanding. Still just 21 years old. He's a young player.

But inconsistent physicality, especially in the run game, that's where it really shows up. And he just struggles to counterpower. And if you can't do that in the Big Ten, good luck doing it in the NFL. So in terms of talent, Drew Shelton's a clear first round talent, but the tape isn't close to first round. So I'm very eager to see the second half of the year. What does that look like in terms of his development? Can he turn it on, flip the switch? Because if he can, he'll probably end up going high.

But if he can't, I don't. He'll be a tough guy to really put your stamp of approval on any evaluation process. And I think there's a few guys like this. Nick Singleton at running back. has not been a great year for him. Zane Durant, defensive tackle, has flashed. He's had his moments, but consistency is not there. Same thing with AJ Harris at Corner.

These are all top 100 type of players. Ski Wheatley at safety, same type of thing. So all guys we thought would be at worst day two players. And so very eager to see how they respond in a program shifting week. And the biggest guy, Drew Aller, right, who is. I was going to say the elephant in the room is that Drew Aller won't be part of it, unfortunately. He would have been on that list too as guys, I can't wait to see the second half of the year just to see how things change. But yeah, his college career is now over, which is a bummer for him and bummer for his evaluation, had an ankle injury.

Sounds like he's pretty serious. The first month of the year did not go according to plan what they, what he wanted to do and what Penn State was hoping to see, what scouts were hoping to see. And now he doesn't have the second half of the year to iron out some of those issues and show improvements. And guys get better. Guys improve. And we really could have seen that from Drew Aller the second half of this year. But now we don't have that opportunity. And it really puts his draft projection in limbo because, and we don't know all the details yet about the ankle and surgery.

And, you know, we just don't know when he'll be back and healthy. But this puts his ability to play in an all-star game. That puts that in limbo. can he work out at the combine? Who knows? You know, we don't know how long this is going to take. I still think Alar is going to be drafted probably on day two. But the pre-draft process is key if he's going to be drafted, say, early day two. You know, the Will Levis, the Tyler Shuck range where 33 to 40.

Or are we talking about he's going to be a mid to late third round kind of dice roll where a team, you know, we see the talent. We don't really feel great that he's going to turn in. anything but we'll take that chance and so i think drew aller his his draft projections really up in the air right now as you know first and foremost he needs to get healthy but then teams need to figure out okay where is he in his development and then how much better can he be or is what he put on tape uh is that just kind of who he is and the upside is maybe not as high as we were hoping for over the summer it speaks to just how talented the guy is that like day day two is still a possibility based on what we saw this season.

But I mean, the flashes, we don't have to relitigate this whole thing. But the flashes are that enticing that assuming everything checks out with the ankle, that makes perfect sense to me. And even if I haven't been a big believer and wasn't a big believer coming into the Oregon game and the meat of their schedule, I really hate it for him because if he's healthy, Penn State has had the potential to be such an intriguing team. I mean, they play Ohio State and Indiana, like soon. And as disappointing as they've been, what an opportunity that could be to sort of rewrite the script and just take everybody by surprise.

That is still on the table, I suppose, but it's easier to imagine if Drew Aller is part of it. And I hate it for him that this will be his final impression going into the draft process. Yeah, it's a bummer. And he's a guy that we have to remember has not been playing quarterback for a long. He didn't become a full-time quarterback until high school. Like, he is still learning on the job and figuring things out. And so that's why I thought the second half of this year was going to be such a big part of the evaluation process for him just to better understand him as a quarterback. And, yeah, like you said, with some of those big games still on the schedule,

Just as a measuring stick to see how he would do against that Ohio State defense. That is just nasty. And I'm biting my tongue so I don't talk about Arval Riz again. But I kind of want to. And then Indiana as well. So yeah, it's a it is a bummer all around. But at the same time, it's still an opportunity for guys like Drew Shelton and those other guys we talked about to kind of make a statement, even though the season is for all intents and purposes over for them.

I will brag for you, Dane. Don't worry. You were on Rvel Reese in late August and early September. So if you listen to this show, you're like, yeah, I've known about Arvel Reese. So freaking good. I feel like the national spotlight has finally caught up to Rvel Reese. Whereas here on Building the Beast, he's old news. Like, we know he's the man already.

And that's courtesy of you, my friend. It's funny because if you read my preseason top 50 and before the season started, I had a line in there by Orville Reese because I credit to a scout that said, hey, he's not in here, but he will be by the end of the year. So he saw it coming. And after the Texas game, yeah, you could tell right away, this guy's different. It's a matter of. And I took, I took some heat for saying he's going to be drafted ahead of Caleb Williams or Caleb Downs. But I'm holding true to that because what Arvell Reese is putting on tape is guys that go top five, top seven. He, he's going to go. He is nasty. The length.

the strength, the speed, the versatility he gives you. It's just, it's, it's really unique. And so I hope he keeps it up the rest of the year because the talent is out of this world. And it really makes that Ohio State defense a lot of fun to watch. It's my favorite subplot of the season is Dane just not, never wrong, just early as Arvel Reese ascends into superstardom. All right, before we get out of here, we can do it quickly. but another another very enticing looking week in college football if you're trying to have your eye on some prospects.

Shout out the Friday night game gets us started a little bit early. Louisville, Miami. We've talked plenty about Ruben Bain. Another opportunity for Carson Beck. Your guy Chris Bell, the wide receiver on Louisville, plenty of reason to tune into this if you're not busy on Friday night. Yeah, and Louisville feels like one of the few teams left on Miami schedule that could maybe pull an upset. that, you know, ACC, they have three teams in the top 25 right now, Miami, obviously, and then Georgia Tech and Virginia, neither of which is on the hurricane schedule this year. So, you know, Louisville, they've, you know, we know they have a high, or a passing attack that will at least put up points and yards.

And Chris Bell is a big reason for that. I think it's going to be a hard time keeping up with Miami at the end of the day, but they'll at least hopefully will keep it close for three quarters. This is a great spot to mention. You know, we, we highlighted the LSU South Carolina matchup heading into last week. And for both Garrett Nussmeyer and Lenora Sellers, I just, I just came out of it in the same spot, really, where, like, sellers displayed all of the athleticism that, that you would want to see and just was nothing doing against that LSU defense. I got to, I got to pull up the stat. Hang on. I saw this. I saw this on Tuesday morning. Yeah, Cole, uh, Cole Kubelik who had the sideline for the LSU South Carolina game. Shout out to him for this. Well, Norris Sellers ran 19 times for 22 yards against LSU. His total distance traveled in the game was 894 yards. Like LSU. That's a real set.

him on the run that that that that according to Cole and according to teamwork that like they and I believe it if you watch the game I completely believe it so nothing doing for Lenora Sellers against LSU and Garrett Nussmeyer very much more of the same in my opinion so big opportunities for both for both of those guys again sellers gets Oklahoma this weekend and Nuss gets a surprisingly good Vanderbilt team on the road so one more opportunity for one of these guys to to make a bigger statement than they did against each other. I was a little more optimistic

after watching Nussmire and LSU. Nussmire looked healthier, which is a good sign. He did look better throwing the football. That is, that is fair. He had two just horrible. One was the interceptions. One was a horrible decision in the red zone. The other one was just an overthrow that turned to do an interception. but you know and those unfortunately I think are going to be part of Nuss Myers game that's who he is

going to be and so that's where and that's part of the Tony Romo comparison is you know Tony Romo's guy that he had 18 19 interceptions you know in the NFL in a season like that's just he will he will throw it to the other team because he's so eager to go make a play and gives his guys a chance and sometimes that will backfire I just think that's who Nussmeyer is but he's another guy that again has a second half this year to put good stuff on film and, you know, really convince teams that, hey, I can be a starter at the next level. Sellers, he had trouble, and it's more of his supporting cast than I think anything with

him, but he really had trouble seeing the field against LSU because he was feeling pressure after a second and a half. And so going up against Oklahoma, which Oklahoma is the number one ranked defense in the FBS is not going to get any easier. The past protection is tough. I just hope the gamecocks come with a better, more answers, whether it's boots and movement with the pocket. Just you have to lean into that athleticism to give him time to go make plays.

If you're just trying to win in the dropback game, it's not going to work with the past protection your team's giving you. USC Notre Dame, definitely a game worth highlighting. We've talked, Mackay Lemon just continues to be a badass. And obviously we know about the talent on Notre Dame. That is definitely something worth turning into on Saturday. and another big matchup weekend in the SEC elsewhere, Tennessee, Bama, and

Georgia Ole Miss, which I guess Ole Miss probably qualifies for a team that has exceeded expectations a little bit. I just, I didn't know what else to say about them after barely escaping Washington, Washington State on Saturday morning, but a huge opportunity for them. And I mean, if they, if they put their best foot forward

against Georgia. I'm going to be asking you what else is going on with Ole Miss besides just the fun story of Trinidad Chamberlis. Who is playing well, man. I mean, I still don't know that he's going to get drafted but it's all of a sudden more of a conversation than

what we would even have guessed coming into the year. So yeah, credit to you. You wanted to talk about him quicker than I ever did. I'm going to put that feather in my cap for sure. Well, deserved. I'm eager for this one to see how that Ole Miss offense does against this Georgia defense, specifically C.J. Allen, he was everywhere on the Auburn tape. I mean, whether it was dropping into coverage, working downhill, the range, sideline, the sideline. The tape reminds me so much of Roquan Smith when he was at Georgia. And I don't want to put that on Allen necessarily, but I still think this is a first round pick playing at linebacker. And it speaks to this linebacker class is just, it's crazy.

I mean, when we did my top three last week, it was R. Villa Reese, C.J. Allen, and then Sunny Stiles. And, but we couldn't stop there. We had to talk about the LSU guys. We had to talk. I mean, there's a lot of linebackers in this class that are really fun. And Allen's near the top of that list. USC Notre Dame is going to be fun for,

I want to see the USC receivers against Notre Dame corners. Leonard Moore is one of the best defensive players in the country for Notre Dame. He's a sophomore. So we're not talking a lot about him because he's not draft eligible just yet. but Christian Gray is a good player. Mikai Lemon, he lines up primarily in the slot. Two-thirds of his snaps will come in the slot. And so what does Notre Dame do to, do they move their corners around?

Do they still play their traditional nickel defense? But I'm eager to see that. I mean, I can't say enough good things about Lemon and what he does out there. And I want to mention Jaden Maiava, USC quarterback, who we're probably not talking enough about. and you think about all the quarterback prospects or recruits that Lincoln Riley has had, a lot of five stars, a lot of high recruited guys. Maya was a three-star guy. He was like the thousandth best recruit coming out in 2022.

Had that one productive year at UNLV, transfers to USC last year pretty inconsistent. I don't, there wasn't a lot of hype coming for him coming into the year based of what he did last season for the Trojans. But the way he's playing this year, it's been really fun to see Riley develop. up him. And aside from one really bad decision against Michigan that turned into an interception, he played a pretty clean game. And so I think the run game with what the USC is doing with their running backs, with, I mean, it was a walk-on that did it against Michigan. So they're deep there. It's, they're going to South Bend. It's, it's not an easy place to go play. But I think this should be

with the way USC can score points, this should be an interesting game. there was a stat a week or two ago about how like six of Lincoln Riley's quarterbacks are starting in the NFL right now. So we should absolutely be paying attention to Jaden Mayava. That is that is a great call. Looking forward to that one. Looking forward to another weekend of college football. Thank you again, Dane. Thank you to all.

Thank you to y'all for listening. And rest assured on the other side of it, we'll be back talking prospects. Until then, talk to you all soon.