The Athletic Football Show: A show about the NFL - Emergency Pod: Bears trade out of the no. 1 pick

Episode Date: March 11, 2023

The Bears have made their move, trading the no. 1 overall pick to the Panthers for a package that includes two first-round picks, two second-rounders, and D.J. Moore. Robert Mays and Nate Tice are joi...ned by Dane Brugler to break down the trade from all angles. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the athletic football show. Welcome to the athletic football show. I'm Robert Mays. Joining me today, two guys, two better guys I cannot imagine having with this conversation with. First of all, my good buddy, Nate Tice, Nate, how you doing, bud? I'm doing very well. I have a hot and fresh in-and-out order downstairs right now that I was running around doing some errands. You know, actually maybe potentially picking out an outfit for the draft show next month.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Who knows? maybe at a Macy's or something like that. And yeah, the trade happened. I thought it was a fake tweet. And it was not a fake tweet. It was actually very real. And here we are. I'm very excited to talk about this.
Starting point is 00:00:51 I'm really happy Dane's here too. Also joining us to help break down every single draft angle imaginable with this. Our good buddy, Dan Brugge, Jane, thanks for doing this, man. Of course. My first reaction was to text you and ask if you had written your thank you note to Lovey and Davis Mills. And what a domino that has turned out to be.
Starting point is 00:01:10 And we have not, we're not done yet feeling the after effects of that domino. So it's fascinating. I love that you were being a good friend and texting me about how I was feeling. And I immediately was a shitty friend and made you work on a Friday night. So I appreciate you very much, very much, sir. I was live in studio on ESPN 1000 radio with their drive time show Waddle and Sylvie, who I love. And Sylvie's sitting in his chair. And he goes, is this real?
Starting point is 00:01:38 Is this the rap report tweet real? And I'm like, what is happening right now? And then I opened my Twitter and my phone was just melting with all the notifications that we're rolling in. So here is what we know. The Chicago Bears, let me pull this up. I'm very distracted. Traded the number one pick in the 2023 drafts to the Carolina Panthers. In return, they get the ninth pick, the 61st pick, which is in the second round,
Starting point is 00:02:05 a first round pick in 2024, a second round pick in 2025. and wide receiver DJ Moore. Nate Tice, your immediate reaction. I, the DJ Moore edition is probably the cherry on top for what I think is a very good package coming for this pick. I think the Bears nailed this. I really do. I think Ryan Poles nailed it. Moving back to nine, you have so many needs.
Starting point is 00:02:28 You're going to find something that works for you as far as the draft. But all this stuff coming back with it. Of course, the 24 first was kind of like inevitable. Whoever was trained for it, that felt like that was part of going to be part of this. deal. But getting DJ more with this receiver class and this receiver market, I think that's fantastic as far as age, what the player is. I love it. I really do think the bears nailed it. And it made sense for the Panthers who seem like they got to do it. Like they seemed like they had marching orders no matter what that they're going to go for a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:02:55 So a lot of this makes sense. But I think the bears really nailed this trade. Dan, I'm sure you were having conversations about people with people about this at the combine, what the actual package, what the compensation would look like. Is this in the general range of what you thought they might get trading out of number one? I think so. And DJ Moore was a name that came up. And Nate and I were actually texting about him earlier today. How if the Bears were to, if the Bears wanted to made it a priority to get a number one or as close to a number one receiver this off season, could they do better than DJ Moore? That might have been their best option at a clear guy that can be our number one in our offense, help Justin Fields, take pressure off Mooney and Claypool and the rest of the weapons. So for, to make a. deal at this point in time. Before free agency, I mean, the timeline is interesting, but the Panthers just said, look, we're not going to, we're going to blow you away with our best offer. We're not going to wait. And you have to imagine that the Bears went to the Colts, went to maybe a few other
Starting point is 00:03:53 teams that showed interest and said, hey, can you beat this? Can you, what's your best offer right now? They couldn't beat it. And so going back from one to nine is it's a little bit, it's a big jump. But for what they got, I love it. Love it for the Bears. It's an amazing move. that is potentially franchise altering. I always said it was more about the package than it was about how far you were moving down. And they clearly believed the same thing. The amount that we threw out last week on the show and we were at the combine was a 2023 second, a 2024 first and a 2025 first move outside of the top five.
Starting point is 00:04:29 They essentially got that. I mean, that's right in line. If you include D.G. More, we can talk about the value of that in a second. But if we're basing this off of what the Niners traded to the Dolph that was a third round pick in the year the trade was happening and two future first round picks it's the same i mean you're you're basing it off of essentially the same market for that type of move and i know it's not two first round picks but dj more is a real asset so instead of that 2025 first you now have a borderline number one receiver and it's more about the group in
Starting point is 00:05:00 general right so having claypool more darnal mooney now you give just and fields a real shot so my thought always was, can you spend this offseason building up around him enough to leave no doubt in the way that the dolphins tried to do in the way that the Eagles tried to do and then still give yourself flexibility into next year's draft in case he doesn't work out. That's what has happened. That is what they did with this move. And Nate, when we were talking about on the show last week, we thought part of the thinking behind getting this done before free agency was that you would know if you landed on pick to trade for a veteran. And if you do that in the midst of free agency, if you could trade for DeAndre Hopkins or wide receiver number one X. And instead of that timeline, they just made it part of this trade. So I think on so many levels, it makes a ton of sense for what the bears are trying to accomplish.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Nate. It does. And the receiver market, again, we already just mentioned it. We mentioned it before. But yeah, like even with the DeAndre Hopkins thing, and you think about timeline with players, you feel like you're, it feels like a super rental. Yes. Exactly. He's almost 25 years old.
Starting point is 00:06:05 He's hitting a prime right now. And also as far as his play style, there's great synergy with Justin Fields as far as Justin Fields loves to push the ball. DJ Moore averaged, I think, is 13 yards A dot last year and has hit that number several times in his career. He was top five in targets of 20 or more air yards last year. He's played in a variety of offenses, a Norv Turner offense, whatever you want to call Joe Brady's offense.
Starting point is 00:06:29 He's played a lot of different offenses. He makes sense. He's a useful player. And I think you said, yeah, borderline number. one. He is kind of like a middle tier number one, but he's a true number one. You can build your passing game through him. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:41 That was the bar they needed to clear. Can you find a guy that you can build your passing game through as that number one guy in the progression for your quarterback? And I think they found that guy. Yeah. And it's on theory. If I called the Panthers and asked that last week and asked them straight up, what would it cost to get DJ more?
Starting point is 00:06:58 What do you think their answer would be? Probably at first. I think it's right. Yeah. I mean, so AJ Brown went for. a first, right? But AJ Brown needed a new contract. So that's another layer to this.
Starting point is 00:07:10 I think it's right on the border, probably a first or second round pick, like a late first, early second, right? You think that's fair? I think that's fair. So if you threw that into a trade chart, that gets you your 20,
Starting point is 00:07:20 first overall. Overall, and you microwave it where you get the guy now. There's no wondering, can we go find a number one receiver? If you look at where those guys were available, the avenues, the best receiver available in Free Institute,
Starting point is 00:07:33 but Jacoby Myers, there weren't there wasn't that Jemar Chase esk talent in this draft there wasn't even a Garrett Wilson that was worthy of a top 10 pick in this draft if you look at everything you've done dain everything everyone else is done this was the avenue to that guy dj moors on a three year 50 million dollar contract with no dead money left on his deal he's getting less on this contract than christian kirk got in free agency from the jaguars like on so many different levels i think this makes sense for where the bears are right now and where they want to go in the future.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Yeah. It makes it a ton of sense because I think you have to set yourself up for the possibility that Justin Fields doesn't work out. Yes. I think they did that. But they also gave him help now. And if it doesn't work out, they still have DJ more, you know, next year for whoever the next quarterback is.
Starting point is 00:08:20 So they, they were able to straddle both where you're helping field. You're helping for 2023. But you also, you know, we know, polls is thinking long term. And he absolutely did that. Nate, it reminds me a little bit of the deal that the bills made for Stefan Dix. He had just signed that. that below market extension with the bit with the Vikings so they got him they didn't need to
Starting point is 00:08:39 extend him and if you're looking at the way the wide receiver market even went after that move you're looking at the Stefan digs contract to think this is a bargain and the bears potentially have that with DJ Moore the we talk he's already a bargain out what he's shown and that's yes with maker mayfield and sam darnald yeah and other insert quarterback name here like now imagine yeah we're jurors still on just and fields but man it's like if they both hit like there's still room to grow. Like that contract could be even more like that he has surplus on it. Like it could be like a really, really outstanding thing for him as well.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I also think that we talked about this 100 times when you have a 90 million, $100 million in cap space. You can't and shouldn't spend that on free agents. Your weapon when you have that sort of financial flexibility is cap space, not draft picks. So wielding that to get a player like this and essentially kind of fitting him in as a de facto free agent, all of that. It makes total sense when you think about all of the cap space that they had. So, Dane, I'm curious from your point of view here, going down to nine, we're now out of the
Starting point is 00:09:42 Will Anderson, Jalen Carter, you have top, top tier player consideration. And that was part of this conversation. But what do you think the bears can do at nine with the players who might still be available? Yeah. And I think obviously you're hoping four quarterbacks to win the first eight picks. So that's going to just knock a good player down to you. And are there any offensive of linemen off the board at this point. There's a good chance there might not be. And then have their pick of whichever offensive lineman sits atop their draft board. It's Peter Scorancey, the local kid, whether it's a tackle or it's a guard, or they could go with Broderick Jones, Paris Johnson, whatever tackle they have. So offensive line to me is just
Starting point is 00:10:18 makes a ton of sense. But does Tyree Wilson, the defensive lineman from Texas Tech, does he fall there? I had Lucas Van Ness from Iowa, another local Chicago area kid going there in my latest mock draft. think, you know, when you think of polls, you think of upside, Lucas Van Ness fits a lot of that, especially when they want to, where they want to get better on the defensive line. So it matches up well where, yeah, I think you'd love to stay within range of a Will Anderson and Jalen Carter. But they feel, I'm sure they feel pretty good about the offensive lineman that'll be there at nine or the defensive lineman that could be there.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Right. I think, Dana, your thoughts on this is Scronowski, to me seems like a great fit. I can't wait to hear you and say the last name Skoroski for this. that I can't wait. An entire time you were talking in my head, I was saying Skaronsky, Skrownski, Skrownski, just practicing his name. That's not what you said, by the way. That is absolutely not what you said.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Sure, sure. Snowski. But with him is, what I want your kind of thoughts on this is that kind of my theory and I think actually going at number nine is a great area for him. That's exactly kind of where I think he should go in this draft just personally. But the fact that there are questions about his length and staying out of tackle, even though he is so skilled in the technician, I thought it actually makes a lot of sense for him matching with the bears because just getting the best five out there,
Starting point is 00:11:34 no matter who else that you could pop in there. And for a rebuilding unit or unit that just needs talent, I, I just thought that was a great pairing as you know, Paris Johnson has had time at guard and everything, but his future probably could be a tackle. And, you know, the other ones all a lot of, a lot of them need growth, I feel like in this class. You know, I really like darn all right.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I've been actually made to text to you about that. But it's, but just that class. He just seems like a great fit. And I just was curious of like, you kind of had similar feelings or kind of anything else to throw in there. Oh, no, 100%. I think the position flex is, that's key because you mentioned the best five out there. Scurrancy can play. The coaches at Northwestern legitimately have been telling scouts he can play any five. He's a left tackle for us, but you want to play guard? That's fine. He has been snapping in practice. He can play center.
Starting point is 00:12:18 So if you just want a high floor, high ceiling offensive line at number nine, who can legitimately play any of those positions, I think nail in the head. Yeah, that's Skoronski. I mean, the fact that he's a local kid just, it's, you know, cherry on top. But the fact that he is a plug and play, guy that's going to make your team better, yeah, that's a great fit. You also don't need to stay at nine. The last time we've seen teams do this, the Eagles move down from six in that trade with the dolphins and move back up to 10 for Devante Smith. When the dolphins went down to 12 in the trade-lance trade, they moved back up to six. I don't want to spend, see the Bears tradeaway future first round picks to go up for one player. But now you have ammo to be flexible.
Starting point is 00:12:56 If you want to move up a spot or two, you have a couple of extra picks down the line. You have the extra fourth from the Eagles. You have the extra fifth that you got from New England last year. They've got a lot of picks in this year's draft that they can work with here. And if they want to trade down from nine, if you feel like, all right, there are four or five tackles who might be available 10 through 15 based on how the draft ends up falling, that's an option for you. If you want to use some of the free agent money that you have to sign a right tackle or sign a guard and then use that pick on a pass rusher.
Starting point is 00:13:26 It's all about flexibility. That is the name of the game here, and it is what the previous regime did not do and why I'm excited, who knows what the results are going to be, but the process of how they're getting here and how they're trying to build this thing, Nate, I think it's hard to argue with the steps they've taken to this point.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Yeah, and we already said, like, the DJ Moore thing was, you know, the value of that. The fact that they even got a second with that in 2025, instead of the 2025 first. I think that's just like, like you said, that's just giving you resources to do what you want to do.
Starting point is 00:13:58 You already talked about weaponizing cap space, having picks and cap space as creative as you want to be and as much foresight as you want to have. Like that lets you do it if you do it right. Like, and I think that's what they've done. And I really like it. And even this draft that has kind of,
Starting point is 00:14:15 if he top end talent and then kind of like a lot of eye of the beholder for each position, God, getting a lot of picks and like you said, me even moving back or down. down from nine into the teens somewhere. If someone wants to bump up for a third or something like that, just getting more of these picks and then dart throws, dart throws,
Starting point is 00:14:30 or at least useful players. I'd much rather have, take a chance on some second rounders that we like. Of which they have to. Yes, as opposed to, I like the guy, but Nick Morrow,
Starting point is 00:14:39 sign on a one-year deal. And, okay, is he good? We don't know, but we moved on from a, not someone that you're, it's a guy that you've tabbed as someone you can maybe build around.
Starting point is 00:14:47 I just like it. It's, we all talk about pivots, pivot points and ability to pivot on your, your path as a team building. This is what this does. It just gives you so many more paths, so many more adventures that you can choose.
Starting point is 00:15:08 All right. Let's talk about the team that traded for the number one overall pick here. Dane, when you saw that it was Carolina, what were the first couple of things that went through your head? It's going to be fascinating as we debate. It's almost like two years ago with the 49ers. And it was,
Starting point is 00:15:21 okay, is it Trey Lance? Is it Mac Jones? I mean, I think you could make a case for any one of these four. I immediately started texting people and say, all right, I got back literally. I had someone at least mentioned one name.
Starting point is 00:15:35 So nobody, Panthers know. I 100% believe the Panthers know. Or at least they are 99% there. You know, they'll keep it open in mind, see if someone can sway them, but they're 99% sure who they're taken.
Starting point is 00:15:46 But yeah, this is a temper move. This is straight from ownership. A guy that's tired of watching Sam Darnel and Baker Mayfield and these guys out, he wants to go get a star. And now who is that going to be? I think you look at it.
Starting point is 00:15:59 And if you guys, asked me right now, we're what, 50 days out from the draft, I would guess C.J. Stroud is now the favorite. I think he is the one that they all can agree on that's going to come in from day one, be the starter, give them a high floor and potentially a high ceiling. I think he makes the most sense. But man, there's a lot of smoke around Anthony Richardson. It's a lot of thick smoke. And it's wild to me, you know, because this is a guy that is, ideally, you don't want him out there as a rookie. And it's a lot to give up for such a project. But man, he's fun. And, you know, the cam comparisons, that'll be a talking point with Carolina. But, you know, it's, maybe it's because
Starting point is 00:16:40 he didn't throw and work out at the combine. But Bryce Young feels like he's getting the least amount of run right now. It's kind of crazy how that works. So I'm sure that'll change here as we go through the next few weeks. But yeah, it's going to be fun debating. But if I had a guess, I would say Stroud at this for it. Nate, I think we talked about the Panthers a lot as a possibility here for a bunch of different reasons. Obviously, the owner has some urgency. We've seen him displayed at multiple different times over the last couple years. And I think that the GM and the coach have been scarred a little bit by how the last couple seasons have gone for them. Frank Reich having to cycle between Philip Rivers and then Carson Wentz and then Matt Ryan and what the Panthers have done.
Starting point is 00:17:20 When they sat there with the eighth overall pick in the 2021 draft and said, oh man, if we signed Sam Darnold or trade for Sam Darnold, we can get a quarterback and J.C. Horn. And then you get on a whole different sort of quarterback Mary go around that they've wanted to get off. So I understand how all the parties involved here are motivated to make this happen for the Panthers. But this is your swing, man. This is it. Like you get one shot at this and they're about to take it. I'm glad you brought up Frank Wright too, because that's exactly it. He probably has Tepper's like, we got to get a guy. He's like, I agree. He's like, I agree. What's doing, buddy. And, Dana, in your last market, I love the pairing.
Starting point is 00:17:58 And I think it was you had the Panthers moving up to four, I believe. And I love the pairing of Anthony Richardson and Bressett, Jacoby Bresset. And I just love that. A lot of that makes sense to me. And I think Jacoby Bresset has kind of gotten underrated as what he is, as a great stopgap quarterback. And great teammate, a teacher of the game, like, has been around other good coaches. I just love that pairing.
Starting point is 00:18:20 And number one, it's interesting, though. And that's the thing. That's number four. And it's like, okay, this is straddling both worlds. and we're talking about that. But to me, it's, I think the betting odds did move up to Stroud like minus 350
Starting point is 00:18:31 as like the favorite. He's the favorite now. Yeah. Right now. And it seems to me like a classic, I think I'm sure every quarterback has fans in that room where it's like the coaches like Stroud, the personnel like Richardson,
Starting point is 00:18:43 and the owner likes the guy that sells tickets, which would be Bryce Young. You know what I mean? Like that's kind of, it feels like a classic one of those situations. So I'm curious who wins out. But it's eye of the beholder draft. I'm telling it.
Starting point is 00:18:54 And Dane knows. this as well, but especially at quarterback. All these guys have a lot of positives, but they all have a couple things. Red flags, or if you think it's a red flag, how big is the red flag? So it's just really interesting who's going to win out in that because I can make the argument for any of them. During the season, I was told that Levis, Will Levis from Kentucky was the guy that the Panthers were really looking at because they thought they would be bad, but not bad enough.
Starting point is 00:19:19 So they would be in range for a Will Levis. And the fact that they made this move, to me, it tells me that they love one of these guys. And it probably isn't Levis. But I think your point is spot on about, okay, who's really the driving force here with the decision? Ownership has a loud voice in the room. But, you know, Frank Reich, obviously, you're going to listen to what he has to say. Josh McCount is now in that decision-making process, at least in some way. So it's really interesting to see how it's going to play out.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Dan, what do you think is the argument for C.J. Strath? If that's the gut feeling and most people have said that to you, he's now the betting favorite, what would that argument look like? If you were standing on the table in that room and making the case for Stroud, how would it sound? I think you're getting a professional because he understands a lot of the interests of playing quarterback. He's very accurate. It's very natural to him.
Starting point is 00:20:11 He doesn't strain with his throws. He's a guy that understands where to go with the football, pre-impost snap. And it comes very natural to him. Now, the biggest thing, you know, we talked about the lack of creativity, the lack of off-scheduled plays. But then, you know, it goes out in the Georgia tape and all of a sudden, hey, I can do it a little bit of that. And so, you know, it gives you a little bit of optimism that, hey, this can be him moving forward. So, yeah, with Stroud, there's, you know, I think you feel good about the floor. And then how he develops with that creativity will determine, ultimately determine the ceiling at the next level.
Starting point is 00:20:46 So, you know, I think he's the guy that everyone can agree on. And I made that argument with the Colts, when you have Ballard and Steichen and the ownership with Ursa. I think it's the same thing. The same argument applies for the Panthers where you've got all these qualified voices in the room debating these guys. Stroud feels like the one that they all can agree on, you know what, that he makes our team better. We have a professional at the quarterback position that we've been looking for. and if we build around him, he will help us compete for the division and for playoff wins.
Starting point is 00:21:19 So to me, that's why Stroud just makes the most sense. Nate, it's interesting to me because part of the argument that we had about why Carolina was such a hospitable place for one of these young quarterbacks. And while I was like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:21:30 they should absolutely make their play because what they can give him is different than a lot of teams typically picking in the top 10 and typically searching for a franchise quarterback. But now you've removed the number one receiving option from that equation. So I think they're looking for past catchers, even though the offensive wine is pretty good.
Starting point is 00:21:47 So in a way, this trade kind of changes the circumstances that the Panthers are in because DJ Moore is no longer there. That's not the most important thing, but I kept coming back to that when I was thinking about it. It's a big variable though. And that's what we said. I like the young guy there because the old line is good, legitimately good. And Iki Akuanu looks like a star, especially in the second half of the season. And they're very well coached. They kept the line coach.
Starting point is 00:22:11 And so that's why I, even for Richardson or any rookie quarterback, why I liked it first and foremost, I think the pockets will be clean. I think that's, it's a real big thing for a guy developing, even for Stroud, who I agree with Dane is the cleanest of these prospects. I can envision him as an NFL quarterback the easiest, which is so crazy to say it sounds weird, but that's what it looks like when you watch him play. But the past catching options, you got Leviticus Chinolt, Teres Marshall. You know, it's not great. And tight ends aren't amazing either. You know, they're fine players. I like Tommy Trembled, but he's not that type of dude.
Starting point is 00:22:46 And, you know, the running backs, they have to figure out as well. But the defense is really good where that's going to be the crux of this team. That's going to be the real, you know, starting point with this team. I think that defense is going to be a legit bar-moving defense. And I think the offense, it's now you're kind of maybe kicking the can to find the weapons down the road. Are they looking in the free agency market now as well? Like that, that's interesting to me because that's why I really like the Panthers and what they could be this next year, because they had DJ Moore as a true number one receiver.
Starting point is 00:23:12 So it's just funny that as you answer one question, potentially you open up more question marks for yourself to answer. Yeah, and they still have the 39th overall pick. They kept their second round pick. So if they want to draft the receiver there, I mean, they still have outwits to find that guy. It's just not as ready made as it would have been with DJ Moore in that spot. Dan, the last team I wanted to ask you about,
Starting point is 00:23:30 it feels like the loser here is Indianapolis. Yep. Because now if quarterbacks are going to go one, two, if you don't love three guys, if you're a little bit worried about the guy you're going to end up with, what do you think the Colts are thinking right now, now knowing that a traits based guy
Starting point is 00:23:47 is probably going number one that they might have liked. Yeah, and I mean, let's Arizona at three has to be feeling pretty good. Yeah. You know, because with quarterback, we know quarterback's going one. We think a quarterback's going to. It's not a certainty, but I think maybe it's likely.
Starting point is 00:24:02 I think it's fair to say that. And then if there's one of these other quarterback needy teams, whether it's the Raiders, possibly the Seahawks, although probably not. You know, if you're sitting there for it near the Colts, you're wondering, okay, is someone going to leapfrog us? And if they do, then what's left for us? And, you know, what does their quarterback board look like? Can they survive something like that?
Starting point is 00:24:28 And so do they feel compelled to, hey, let's give up a third and two thirds, whatever it takes to move up one spot? you know, and the Cardinals, you know, basically get, you know, an extra pick or two. So, yeah, if you're Chris Ballard, obviously you didn't want to. And he kind of laid the groundwork for this at the combine and kind of said how, hey, you know, we don't feel like we need to trade up. You know, we, I mean, basically laying the groundwork for, hey, we probably will get out bid. And if we do, you know, what's going to be okay, we think.
Starting point is 00:24:57 But, you know, it's different. Right. Because you're probably not moving to two, right? You know, Texans aren't going to deal with you for a quarterback especially. So, yeah, if you're the Colts, it becomes a situation where you're just going to, you know, pray that maybe a quarterback doesn't go two or, you know, hopefully someone doesn't trade up to three or maybe they feel like they have to trade up. So it's, it's a cold situation got a lot more interesting. That's funny. I'm laughing at just Arizona.
Starting point is 00:25:29 It's like now the great seat right now. It's funny how it just shifts just like that, just as soon, especially. in a one, two, drafted, just like that. You were talking about sliding doors, by the way, and talking about what Lovey and everything paying back. Just remember the Jets Jaguars a few years ago as well. That's it, exactly. Just franchise changing, well, wins and losses, I should say,
Starting point is 00:25:49 but it sometimes works out for you. If that, if that doesn't happen, I mean, the Jets are in the playoffs this year with Trevor Lawrence as their starter. I mean, it's just, it's amazing how these little things in week 17 or week 18 drastically changes the trajectory of franchises. And who knows what that trajectory will look like for Chicago? And my biggest question was, can you do what you can this offseason to build up the infrastructure on the rest of your roster? Can you make sure that you have a ready-made pass-catching room?
Starting point is 00:26:18 Can you use the free agent money and maybe some of those picks to rebuild the offensive line in one fell swoop the way that we've seen teams like the Chargers and the Chiefs do over the last few seasons? And then, again, all of that extra excess money, whatever, can you find a couple pieces on defense to start to build this thing? the right way while giving yourself flexibility into next year's draft. Can we come away from the 2023 season and say, I know what I think about Justin Fields. He is the guy or he's not. And if he's not, I have an ability to pivot off that. And that's where they are. As we sit here right now at 632 central time on March 10th, it feels like Ryan Poles has done that.
Starting point is 00:26:57 We can Hammond Hall or whether he got enough for the rest of the night. But I think if those are your goals, they have. have accomplished the first steps of those, in my opinion. No doubt. And one last point on the Colts, does this change? Maybe they're thinking on how they would possibly kick the tires on a Lamar Jackson trade. I think it has to.
Starting point is 00:27:19 It does. I mean, great call day. Because you're looking at your options now and you have to be wide open. You have to be open-minded about, okay, we could go this direction, we go this and the Lamar Jackson trade might be there, you know, especially for a guy like Chris Fowler, who can't afford to wait. He's got to do something now.
Starting point is 00:27:36 And that might be their best option moving forward as they look at what's presented to them. That's a great call. That's such a great call. That's actually a really funny variable in all this. Hey, Lamar, they weren't one of the teams tweeting out that they're not at the table. So they might be okay and keep that door open. I got to tell you, I'm so glad this happened now.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Even if it's a Friday, it's done. I can stop worrying about it over. We still got plenty of ways to feed the content beast with what the Panthers might do here over the next two months. It didn't happen next Friday when I'm off. That's the last thing that I wanted. It's just like, oh, my God, what are we going to do? Everything worked out in a perfect way. I am a happy man.
Starting point is 00:28:19 I am going to be just in a great mood for the rest of the night. In part, because you guys were able to do this with me. Boys, thank you very, very much for scramble on a Friday evening and joining me for this. And thank you to everyone who stopped by to hang out with us. We will be back on Monday. God damn. I am so glad we did not record Monday's show already. That would have been a disaster.
Starting point is 00:28:40 We were going to record that on Sunday. I'll be with Nate. So please be on the lookout for that on Monday. We are doing our first free agency recap show live on YouTube, 2.30 p.m. Central, 3.30 p.m. Eastern, recapping the first day of the tampering period. So please come back and check that out. Dane, I believe you are going to have a new mock up soon.
Starting point is 00:29:01 A top 10. So, yeah, what does this mean? How the dominoes are going to affect the rest of the teams in the top 10. Yeah, that'll be up probably some point tonight on the athletic. Athletic.com slash football show is where you can get a subscription if you do not have one. For now, that is all we got. Thank you to our producer, Alex Hample, for jumping on in a way that he did not need to. Really appreciate you guys putting in the extra work.
Starting point is 00:29:26 And thanks to all of you for spending the time with us. We'll talk to you soon.

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