The Athletic Football Show: A show about the NFL - Free Agency Recap, Day 2: Broncos steal Randy Gregory from Cowboys, Browns enter Deshaun Watson convo, CB musical chairs & more
Episode Date: March 15, 2022Another day of free agency in the NFL is nearly in the books, and it's time to recap the highlights of day two with our own Lindsay Jones, from Randy Gregory swerving on the Cowboys and heading to the... Broncos, to the numbers coming out on Aaron Rodgers' and Mitch Trubisky's deals, Shaq Mason heading to Tampa Bay, the Jags just keep on spending, CB movement around the league and more. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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This is the athletic football show.
Welcome to the athletic football show.
Today's Tuesday, March 15th.
I'm Robert Mays.
Joining me today.
It's my good friend Lindsay Jones.
Lindsay, how you doing?
I'm great.
I'm ready to do this.
It's been another fun day of free agency.
And hopefully something crazy will happen in the next hour.
Let's go.
I'm sure something will.
I'm sure at least one crazy thing will happen.
So we're going to talk about some of the signings that have rolled in since I recorded with
Nate yesterday afternoon.
We're going to talk about some.
team-wide plans that we've liked, that we've disliked, that have made sense, that haven't made sense.
Before we get into some of that stuff, though, let's start with, in my opinion, the most fun news of today so far.
We had some drama. We had some switcheroo, free agency drama with a pretty big name.
So earlier today, this morning, news comes down that Randy Gregory is signing a five-year $70 million extension with the Cowboys.
Makes sense. You know, they move some money around to Marcus Lawrence yesterday. They bring back both of their edge
rushers, it's like, okay, here's this core of this Cowboys team that we know can compete.
We saw what their defense was last year.
Good for Dallas keeping it all together.
And then, I don't know, hour later, 90 minutes later, maybe a little bit later than that,
we get news that that deal has fallen apart and now Randy Gregory is headed to Denver for the exact
same terms.
Yeah.
And so Randy Gregory was on the kind of the short list of edge rushers that the Broncos were
interested in, the guys that were, you know, they could potentially be pursuing.
It was Randy Gregory, Chandler Jones, and then Bond Miller has kind of been the, you know, the fantasy player that every, that Broncos fans wanted.
But so I remember when I saw that, I was like, okay, well, that's a guy off the list for the Broncos, right?
Randy Gregory is gone.
Huge because it's a short list.
And even after yesterday with Asan Reddick going, Emmanuel Ogba re-sign him, in that group of edge rushers that you would really want that's kind of in that one step down from premium tier was trying to dry up pretty fast.
Yeah.
So, you know, that was my immediate reaction.
It made a ton of sense for Dallas.
You know, Randy Gregory, obviously the Cowboys have put a ton into him
in terms of investing into his future.
They've stuck by him through multiple suspensions, you know,
really kind of helped him turn his life around and get his career back on track.
And he had the best year of his career last year.
I mean, he, from a production standpoint,
just in terms of the amount of pressures he was able to generate his turnover rate.
I mean, I think he forced eight fumbles last year.
So it just made a ton of sense that you would keep that group together,
kind of as the core of your defense.
also obviously the Broncos had other plans.
Randy Gregory and his agent, Peter Schaefer, ultimately had some other plans.
And I'm dying to find out kind of the full story of exactly what went down during that, you know, hour or so where Randy Gregory flipped his commitment from the Cowboys to the Broncos.
It sounds like based on what has been reported, I think Charles Robinson from Yahoo said something about this.
And a couple other people have said something similar is that they tried to change some language or add some language at the last minute after they had.
already agreed on the terms.
Rainie Gregory and his people were not into that, understandably so.
And when you have another offer waiting on deck, it's pretty easy to say, you know what?
If you're going to do that, we're just going to take our wear somewhere else here.
Yeah.
Now there's some damage control, like literally live as we're recording right now, kind of coming out of
Dallas that they're saying, okay, no, it was standard contract language.
It was the type of language that is in every Cowboys contract, I guess, except for
Doc Prescott's where the team can recoup money if a player is fined or suspended by the NFL.
So I think there's some damage control on that end.
I can't also imagine that the Broncos wouldn't have some sort of stipulations in their contracts,
you know, for off-field behavior.
That's pretty standard stuff.
You know, but ultimately, like, look, this is the, you know, quote-unquote legal tampering
period.
Deals that happen on Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday morning, they're non-binding.
I mean, you can give your word.
You know, it's happened before not a ton of times.
Frank Gore was really the first one a couple of years ago when he,
agreed to go, he agreed to terms with the Eagles and then ultimately end up going to the
Colts. I believe that was during his free agency there. And then there was somebody two years
ago, right? The Vikings, Kendrix. Right? Is that who I'm thinking? No, it was Anthony Barr.
I think it was Anthony Barr. I think it was Anthony Barr. I was going to be. So this has happened
before, right? Where and you know, now we're at the stage where, you know, teams, especially
with the guy resigning like Randy Greger was going to be.
where teams can put out information, they can announce it as the Cowboys did.
So that was kind of embarrassing that they had to like take down a tweet.
But there's just so much information out there right now about contract terms and agents get really excited.
They want these big contract numbers out there right away.
So there's a lot of information out there that other teams could probably use against them and say,
nope, let's renegotiate.
Come back.
We can match that offer.
Are you sure you really want to do that?
Look at the other guys that we're bringing in right now.
Don't you want to be part of, you know, this that's going on?
So there's a lot of that stuff going on.
And I'm actually kind of surprised that it doesn't happen more often that guys switch
their commitments during these 48 hours.
So like you mentioned, if you look at the numbers last year on a per snap basis,
if you look at like the past rushing productivity, say that 10 times from PFF,
Randy Gregory on a per snap basis finished right between Von Miller and Robert Quinn,
which is kind of an interesting two guys to land between.
Von Miller, somebody he's theoretically replacing in Denver.
Robert Quinn, someone who like Randy Gregory, had a really big spikey,
to kind of rebuild his value in Dallas, he was 11th in the league.
I mean, he was one of the more disruptive players on a per play basis last year at that position.
So if you're the Broncos and you're looking at the players available and you don't necessarily
want to be in that Chandler Jones, von Miller, $20 million a year potentially tier, but you still
want a difference maker, that tier of guys was starting to disappear very quickly.
So to land him at a clear position of need, like when we were listing off what the Broncos
was still needed after making the Russell Wilson trade.
Edge rushing help was one of the first things we mentioned.
This is a huge win for them.
And they're getting it at, in my opinion, a pretty decent price because there's a lot
baked into it.
He's 30 years old.
Obviously the history.
But if you look at the player he was on the field last year and if you could project that
forward, $14 million for that guy when you're at the stage the Broncos are at, I think is
more than justifiable.
Yeah, absolutely.
And if you're the Broncos, you can talk yourselves into how good this pass rush could
be when you have Bradley Chub on one side, Randy Greger,
the other. They've got some nice, like, depth pieces, Malik Reed, Jonathan Cooper, some young guys,
but they need like two, you know, solid edge rushers. The question for both Randy Gregory
and certainly for Bradley Chubb is, can these guys stay healthy? How many snaps will they actually
play together? Because, you know, look, I live here in Denver. We've spent a lot of time talking
about, you know, over the years how exciting it was to have Bradley Chubb and Von Miller together,
what that, what that duo would look like. And they just never played together because either
Bradley Chub was hurt or Bon Miller was hurt and then Von Miller was hurt. And then Bon Miller was
gone. And, you know, Randy Gregory has, um, has had some injury issues. He had trouble
staying on the field at times last year because of his health. Bradley Chubb, obviously a lot of
injury issues. So this is going to be a really huge year to see if this will work. But I think
it's a gamble worth taking. I, I, I kind of respect what George Payton is doing here.
His free agency plan has been very strategic. And it's been very front seven heavy.
So you look at it. On top of adding Randy Gregory, they signed D.J.
Jay Jones yesterday to what is the going rate for defensive lineman right now. It's a three or 30 million
dollar contract. That's what BJ Hill went for. A lot of guys signing in that range. More or less,
the deal that Shelby Harris would have been on this year, if you look at the money. So after the trade
Shelby Harris, they kind of swap that out. DJ Jones is a really fun player. I mean, somebody that we
have loved watching in San Francisco really disruptive against the run, I think has more pass rushing
juice than it might seem at first glance. This is another one of, another entry.
into the Chris Kucerick School of finance.
If you want to get paid, just go play for the Niners for a little while as a defensive
lineman.
But I completely understand how you land on this guy again.
As somebody you want to add to that front, you're trying to be more disruptive.
You have him.
Now you have Randy Gregory.
You have Bradley Chubb.
I mean, this is a group that is suddenly coming together.
And that's before they re-signed Josie Jewel, who's another person we mentioned, on the
podcast that never aired when we were talking about the Broncos and the guys that they had
and the holes they might have.
So you're looking at this team right now.
I mean, there just aren't that many.
holes left on the roster. And we've said that about them in the past. The difference is now
their quarterback is Russell Wilson. Yeah. So I would say the remaining vacancies, the things that
they really need to do now, right tackle has to be their top priority right now. And they don't
have a ton of wiggle room left with their salary cap. I mean, they have a little bit of room
flexibility here and there. So I don't know if they're going to be priced out of kind of what the next
tier of the right tackle free agent market looks like or if that's somewhere that they're going to have
to address in the draft. They obviously do not have a first round pick.
anymore, but maybe that's somewhere that they can address.
They brought back Calvin Anderson on a one-year deal, but it was less than what they would
have been if they'd tendered him, which to me doesn't inspire, you know, a ton of confidence that
they are, you know, this is the guy they really wanted to be their long-term right tackle.
So that's the spot.
And then there's a couple of, look, they need depth corner.
They need a tight end, maybe a little bit more running that.
You don't believe in Alberto.
I mean, I like Alberto.
He hasn't proven that he can stay healthy consistently.
And he's one guy.
They need to, they need more some of depth there.
They brought back Andrew Beck, who's more of kind of a blocker slash fullback guy.
But I'd like to see them probably add another tight end, but that's not somewhere they have to go spend a lot of money.
I think right tackle is the one position right now that's kind of a glaring need for them.
And I'm very curious to see where they end up going.
I want to see how that right tackle market ends up shaking out, that veteran right tackle market with the Morgan Moses of the world, Riley Reef,
because there are a bunch of teams, I think, still in that conversation that would like a player at that position.
The Chargers, after they release Brian Blag, I think that's a formality at this point.
Obviously, I think the Bengals is probably still in that conversation.
I mean, there are teams that could be looking at that spot and where that lands.
I mean, if you can get one of those guys for one year, $6 million, you know, whatever that ends up looking like,
maybe you give it a two-year deal to kind of push some money into the following year.
Those guys have not started coming off the board yet.
So what that ends up looking like, I think, is going to be really interesting for some of these teams who really just need
an answer there in the short term.
Because if you sign a guy for one of your five million,
then at least you don't have to draft someone.
You don't have to say we have to come away from the first two rounds,
of which the Broncos don't really have any picks,
with a guy at that spot.
So having that flexibility is really nice.
On the Cowboys side of this,
it's been a couple moves at past Russia, obviously, over the last couple days.
They wanted to bring back Randy Gregory.
They did bring back to Marcus Lawrence three years,
$40 million, $30 million guaranteed.
this is one of those moves where it just felt like,
all right, we can either cut you or you can redo your deal,
stay here in a place you want to be and make it easier for everybody.
And that seems to be where the two sides landed.
Yeah, and it made a lot of sense, right?
I mean, he's been at his best there.
They needed to keep him.
This is not a backbreaking type of deal.
They get a little bit more room.
So that made a lot of sense.
I'm guessing they did that with the idea that Randy Gregory would also be part of that equation.
So now where do they get?
go. I mean, they have a very clear need at edge rush or opposite of DeMarcus Lawrence right now.
Yeah, if you look, I mean, Demarcus Lawrence is a really good player. I mean, if you look at the
cap hits and what he's going to make, I mean, they had to spread some stuff out and everything else.
But, I mean, this is a win for them. He's a really good player when he's on the field.
Now the question is, what do they do with that other spot? And it sounds like Von Miller might be
potentially in the plans. Now that that spot is open, could this be a blessing in disguise where they
miss out on Randy Gregory and then somehow find a way to sign Von Miller.
Yeah, I mean, it wouldn't be necessarily like fit in line with the type of signings that they make.
You know, they don't typically go out and spend a lot of money on these type of players.
DeMarcus Ware is out recruiting right now.
He's recruiting his friend, Vaughn Miller on Instagram.
He said he's already called him.
They've talked about it.
So we'll see.
I mean, I think Vaughn would, Vaughn is very much enjoying his free agency.
I mean, I think if you follow him on any of the social media, that has been the takeaway from the last several weeks.
I think he's very much enjoying.
This is the first time he's ever been a free agent, right?
Because he was franchise tagged by the Broncos and then signed a long-term deal with the Broncos.
And then he was traded.
So he's never actually been out there on the free agent market before.
And he's coming off of a ridiculous postseason run and showing that even at age 32, almost 33, I think his birthday is here in a couple weeks, that he's a valuable player.
And he deserves kind of to be courted.
I fully support people at age 33 deciding that, you know, they're really hitting their stride.
That's what I'm after here as someone in that age range.
Yeah, absolutely. Look, and I think he very much enjoyed the love that was coming his way from Denver and from Broncos fans wanting him to come back.
He was stoking that fire.
You know, he's been playing it up, I think, with the Rams.
And look, he is from Dallas.
He is a Dallas guy, DeSoto, Texas, went to Texas A&M, a ton of really deep roots there.
He owns property.
He owns a ranch.
look, if the Cowboys came calling with an attractive offer,
I think Von Miller would be very, very receptive to that.
All right, you got your news for when we were on the show.
The Patriots have traded a fifth round pick for Shaq Mason,
which, I mean, totally understandable, right?
If you're on the Patriots timeline, we need to fill that spot right now.
Alley Marpet retires.
We'll see what happens with which position those guys play.
I mean, Shaq Mason was a right guard for the Patriots.
Is he going to play that for the Bucks as they kind of figure out the interior of their offensive line?
They brought back Aaron Stinney.
So, I mean, hopefully they're going to have a full slate of guys now on the interior.
And the other move that the Bucks made today that I loved, they went out and got Russell Gage.
Russell Gage is a really good player.
I mean, Russell Gage is somebody that I thought could be a perfect two for a team that was desperate for a wide receiver.
Bears are a team that I mentioned with him coming into it.
I thought that a team that had a bare wide receiver room could really use him just as a stabilizing force.
Instead, he signs with the Bucks and is their number three receiver.
Yeah, he goes to a team that does not have a bare wide receiver room.
They've got a very full wide receiver room.
I think that the Russell Gage move, the Shaq Mason move, just more proof.
This team is going for it.
I mean, they are trying to, they are pushing it all in right now and you cannot blame them whatsoever.
Tom Brady didn't come back for them to just be like, eh, maybe we can make the division.
Certainly not.
Right?
But speaking of bear wide receiver rooms, what the hell are the Falcons doing?
All right.
So we're going to talk about the Falcons here in a second because I want to dig through.
Look at their receiver depth chart right now.
It is.
Oof.
It is dreadful.
We'll talk about the Falcons in a moment because I want to kind of comb through some of the quarterback news from the last 24 hours.
The numbers on the Aaron Rogers contractor out, they're insane.
When you look at the actual details of it on over the cap or spot track or whatever,
he has a $175 million dead cap hit this year if they were to move on from him.
Obviously, they wouldn't.
But when you look at the dead cap hits for the next two years, it's over $100 million.
It's hilarious.
The cap was 182 last year.
And he would have a dead cap hit of $175 million in this moment.
But it totally makes sense, right?
So they have this odd structure where they bring his cap hit for 2022 down to about $28 million.
It was $46 million.
So you save $18 million.
with one little stroke of the pen.
He has a $58 million option bonus next year and a $47 million option bonus in 2024,
which is a structure that you don't see used very often.
With that, as soon as you pull that lever, you can pro-rate those bonuses over the rest of the life of the contract
and just keep pushing and pushing and that's what they're doing.
When you hand this money out, it's got to go somewhere and eventually it all comes due.
the hope is that, one, with teams, you can either outrun it and the cap is going to grow enough
where it ultimately isn't going to matter.
Or two, you just don't care.
You know, you're driving this thing off a cliff at some point and you're willing to live with
that.
And with the Packers, it seems like a little Colomé and a little Colombe.
I think it's both.
I think they very clearly think this will be worth it because they should be able to win a Super
Bowl or they're a Super Bowl contending team with Aaron Rogers on the roster.
So I think they can do, I think it's what's with the Saints
did, right? I think the Saints just kept pushing and pushing and pushing. They always had a
contending roster. It didn't end up working. They never actually got back to the Super Bowl,
didn't win another Super Bowl with Drew Breeze. But they went in and pushed it and pushed and
pushed it every year. And now they're trying to figure it out. This is kind of what happens.
If you look at it, is cap it of $28 million this year, $31 million next year and $40 million two
years from now. Then it goes to $60 million or something crazy. So those three years are the
years where they have planned on. All right, if he's here, these are where the cap hits will be
we can spend in this way.
If he plays for longer than that,
then they have to do something.
They tear it up and start over
and kind of climb further into this hole.
But this is a world and a lifestyle
that they have fully committed to.
And I totally understand it.
This is probably your best chance.
Committing to him in this way was your best chance.
And now you have to do what's necessary
to make the most of that.
Yeah. And those are his ages,
38, 39, and 40-year-old seasons.
So it's not insane to think about extending beyond that.
But we very clearly know what's going to happen over these next couple years.
And now the big question is Devante Adams and what his contract is going to look like, what room is left.
There's been a lot.
My thing is, what's another 30 million?
Just throw another fire up along at this point.
Just push it further out.
You know, I think the one like Devante Adams nugget today is from James Jones, NFL Network,
who is very tight with those guys, very, very plugged in directly to those players in the Green Bay locker room saying that Adams is Adam.
that he will not play on the tag.
So I think it's going to get ugly and probably messy before it gets better between
Devante Adams and the Packers.
But there's no way that Aaron Rogers was coming back after all of this for Devante
Adams to not be part of the 2022 team.
It's just going to be a lot of mess trying to get there.
If you're looking at if you're Devante Adams and you're looking at what just happened
over the last 24 hours and Christian Kirk getting 18 million a year or 18 million
or whatever it is.
Even T.J. Chark getting $12 million a year.
Amari Cooper planning on a $3 million or $60 million deal.
Mike Williams making $20 million a year.
I wouldn't be happy either if I was playing on a $20 million franchise tag
if I were kind of undisputably the best receiver in the league right now.
All right.
Some more quarterback news here.
It sounds like the Browns have entered into the Deshaun Watson conversation.
It's been reported that they were flying to Houston earlier,
I think it was on Tuesday, to meet with Watson and his.
his people, this does not surprise me.
When they made the Cooper trade, and I was kind of looking at it, it feels like they could
want to get in on this because they have a ready-made place for him.
They have an argument.
Now that they have Cooper in place, you have a number one receiver, potentially if you
could draft another receiver 13th overall, if you express that you're looking to do that,
you have a really good offensive line, even with the J.C. Trudder move, which we'll discuss.
you have an offensive-minded head coach, a defense that's ascending.
I mean, this team absolutely is in a really good spot roster-wise to make a case to Deshaun Watson.
If they trade Baker-Mayfield back to Houston as part of this deal, they save a really big chunk of money.
They can do it under the cap.
I mean, all of the signs pointing to this on a football level made sense to me.
Yeah, and it's really interesting because when you look at the team, the other teams that are involved in all of this,
It's just basically everybody in the NFC South.
The Texans declined to allow the Texans or the Colts, excuse me, to meet with.
You don't say.
They're not going to trade them within the division.
They still hold some cards there, which is interesting because he probably would.
I mean, from a football perspective, that's probably somewhere that he would want to go.
Good on the Colts, by the way, for making the call.
You got to do your due diligence, right?
Just find out, right?
And instead now it's basically the Brown.
as the only team in the AFC.
It is really interesting because even if they don't get him, right?
Even if ultimately Deshaun Watson ends up in New Orleans or Carolina,
this is like the point of no return with Baker Mayfield because, I mean,
he would still be your quarterback if you don't pull off this trade,
but it's pretty clear about their plans for him and how they view him
and their prospects of winning with him long term.
So it'll be a real awkward season, I think, for the Browns.
It always felt like they were going to move on when the opportunity
presented itself. This is the opportunity.
Baker Mayfield at $18 million
is more than palatable.
And I feel like that's the way that they've been looking at this.
I don't know. They don't want to commit to him long term.
But if you're looking at the quarterback landscape,
Carson wants to make a 28th this year from Washington.
Baker Mayfield at 18 is something you can talk yourself into.
But if there is a pathway to a better quarterback,
they're going to try to take it.
And that's exactly what this is.
They haven't given up any draft capital in any other places.
I mean, they're ready to make a move like this.
So it was not surprising to me at all.
The Falcons were a bit surprising.
The idea that the Falcons have entered the chat here as it relates to Deshaun Watson,
Diana Sr. reporting that that Watson actually pushed for a meeting with Atlanta.
He's from the area.
I mean, I don't understand why else the Falcons would be an attractive destination for
Deshaun Watson at this point, but it does seem like they have kind of come into the conversation a little bit.
Yeah, because there's nothing else about that roster that you would look at and say,
that's a place that I want to go.
We were just discussing this.
What does the Falcon's wide receiver debt chart look like?
Yeah, and I don't know if this is just about, you know, having a prior relationship with Arthur Blank.
That's somewhere that he feels comfortable, that he would be supported.
Maybe he wouldn't face the type of scrutiny that he might get other places.
You know, he obviously has a support system.
I mean, literally his hometown of Gainesville, Georgia is 10 miles.
I Google mapped it a little while ago from the Flowery Branch facility, which is about an hour from downtown Atlanta.
but this is a place where he probably feels really safe and protected.
But I don't know if it's a place that he would win.
There's been a lot of league speculation today that this is just kind of like gamesmanship
by the Falcons and trying to drive up the market and drive up the price that their
division rivals would have to pay as the Panthers and the Saints are the other two teams
that are interested right now and that I've already met with him.
But yeah, it's it is the one that it's the most like financially complicated because
if the Falcon's interest is significant.
It's complicated on so many different levels.
Yeah, I mean, they have a very expensive veteran quarterback that I'm sure they'd love to
figure a way to get out from under the Matt Ryan contract, but getting into another
expensive quarterback contract isn't necessarily the way to do that.
Didn't they just restructure Matt Ryan's contract?
So now there's even more dead money on the cap if they move on from him in this moment?
So according to Spotrack, or excuse me, Jason Fitzgeralded over the cap,
the restructuring has been like agreed to but not actually filed.
with the league yet. So it's a little unclear exactly what his numbers are if it's officially
restructured or not. There have been some reporting on it. I know Mike Rothstein from ESPN.com has
reported on the restructure, but it apparently has not gone through the official NFL contract
system to be officially on their books yet. So it's a little confusing. You know, there's some
like post-June 1st designations to move on and save some of the money, but it doesn't make a ton of
sense other than Deshawn Watson wanting to be at home.
And we're back to all of the icky, the stuff that makes me feel real icky talking about
this about, you know, a guy who literally last week was, you know, facing grand jury testimony
and is still facing an open NFL investigation and 20 active civil lawsuits getting to just
kind of like dictate exactly where he wants to go to continue playing football.
But here we are.
If you're Atlanta, even if the finances of it are a little bit of it,
are a little bit complicated.
I do think it makes sense when you're talking about their plan overall,
because it doesn't seem like they really had one.
And to no fault of their own, really, you know, the financial mess that they were left with
didn't leave them a clear out and didn't really leave them a clear pathway to the next stage
of this if they didn't like any of the quarterbacks at four.
So Deshaun Watson, if they do make this move, and it's Deshaun Watson and Kyle Pitts and
nothing else and A.J. Terrell, that is, to me,
as viable of a plan as any other version of what this team could look like in the next 12 to 24
months. So I can completely understand it from that sense. Sure. Yeah. I mean, this has been our biggest
problem with the Falcons dating back for over a year now is like who are they? What direction are they going?
What is their long term quarterback plan? I'm just going to be real interested. He's agreeing to
meet with these teams. Is he going to waive as no trade clause for all of them? Would he waive it to go to
Carolina, New Orleans, Cleveland.
Seems like maybe he would wave it to go to Atlanta.
So he does hold a lot of cards here.
And if he wants to go somewhere that doesn't seem like the most conventional fit by the other football metrics, I guess, I guess that's his choice.
The Carolina thing is just very strange to me.
I mean, all the turnover in their offensive coaching staff, their offensive line is not good.
They have some weapons, but there aren't a lot of pluses in the Carolina column.
for me as it relates to the football situation there.
Yeah, except I think they're going to be very aggressive in their pursuit.
Yeah, because they're in the same spot as Atlanta, right?
We don't have a plan.
So this is now our new plan.
And it's better than the old plan because at least we end up with Deshaun Watson.
It doesn't matter what it costs to get there.
So again, I understand their interest in this.
I'm not sure why Deshaun Watson would be that interested.
Yeah, I mean, Cleveland is probably the best football setup of those four teams.
Definitely.
Definitely.
I mean, they have a roster that's almost close to complete.
And if you, again, you go get a receiver, I guess they wouldn't have a first-round pick in this scenario.
But, I mean, to me, I do think that they're in the best spot.
All right.
So the one other thing with the Browns, they released J.C. Treter today.
The offensive line is getting very, very expensive, which makes sense to ultimately have to save in one place or another.
They have two of the most expensive guards in the league.
You know, they felt like Nick Harris, who's got some spot time for them could step in and do a decent job.
I totally understand that.
J.C. Tredder hits the market as an attractive center, especially when you consider
what happened yesterday. Ben Jones goes back to Tennessee.
Brian Allen goes back to the Rams. Ryan Jensen goes back to the Bucks. If you were a team like,
I don't know, say the Chicago Bears. A guy like J.C. Treader could make sense to you. And with Chicago,
there's a lot of points of connection there. Luke Getsy was in Green Bay when J.C. Treter was in Green Bay.
Alex Van Pelt, who is the Brown's offensive coordinator, was in Green Bay with J.C.
Tredder. When Luke Getsy was on the staff, those guys know each other. It's a pretty quick phone
call of, hey, you think J.C. still got it? Absolutely. We just couldn't make it work. Okay,
sounds good. That's it. I mean, those little tiny things, I think ultimately do matter in
processes like this. And they have a need there. So I would like to see the bears make that phone call.
Yeah. And it's going to be, there's a couple others. I think Alex Mack is a name to watch to see if he
ends up on the market at some point. But yeah, J.C. wants to keep playing. He's very, he's very reliable. He's
very reliable. I think he missed one game. He's available. That is a huge thing for me. He's available,
which at that position is really important. He missed one game because of COVID last year,
but otherwise, I don't think he missed a single game while he was with the Browns. He was very much
a security blanket for Baker Mayfield. You know, they're going to miss him, but ultimately, like,
they had to make a cut somewhere. Ravens, Steelers? Could he switch teams within the division?
Well, the Steelers, we're going to get to the Steelers in a moment.
The Ravens, I think, could be a possibility as they shuffle there into the offensive line.
Bradley Bozeman is also somebody that's available if a team needs a center.
But moving to the Steelers here for a moment, the Trubisky terms were not out when Nate and I recorded yesterday.
Two years, 15 million.
It's totally fine.
Yeah.
It's totally fine.
Who cares?
That's backup quarterback money.
Yeah.
I dipped in while you guys were talking about why aren't the terms out.
And Nate was like, is it because they're so high?
And I was like, no, no, no.
It's because they're so low.
they're embarrassed, they don't want them out there.
Or the agent.
It was one of the other.
It was one of the other.
And now it makes a lot of sense.
So that's backup quarterback money.
That's high-end backup money.
So if you're the Steelers, giving him $7 million a year and not giving up a pick,
I do think is totally justifiable.
It's a preferable path than going with a Jimmy Garoppolo, for instance,
where you'd have to give up a real pick potentially and pay him $25 million.
And with that savings, they have rebuilt or added to their offensive line.
They re-sign Chuck Sikor 4, three years, $30 million, about $20 million or so guaranteed their right tackle.
That seems like a lot.
It's kind of the going rate for right tackles like that in free agency.
I believe it's the same deal as George Fant got from the Jets.
If you look at some points of comparison, like that's happened a couple different times.
And then Mason Cole signed a three-year, $15 million deal.
And James Daniels, this is the one I like.
Three years, $26 million.
$8 million a year for 24-year-old James Daniels,
who's bounced around a lot in Chicago.
People in the league are adamant that he's a center.
I remember talking to a GM recently where he's like,
he's a center, he should play center.
And that, I think, raises a question,
what are the Steelers going to do with these three guys?
Where does Kendrick Green, who they drafted last year,
where does he end up fitting?
Where does Daniels end up playing?
Where does Mason Cole play?
Kevin Dotson is obviously in that mix.
Does he move back to right guard,
where he was actually better a couple of years ago.
So a lot of moving pieces there, but they've added a lot of bodies.
They've used some of that financial flexibility of $7 million of Mitchell Trubisky
to kind of make sure that group is functional this year.
I just don't think.
And I know you and Nate talked about Steelers quarterback plans a bunch yesterday,
but it just doesn't feel like this is the, there's got to be another move coming.
Is this going to be a draft guy?
The contract tells you that.
Yeah.
So it's like, you know, you can kind of look at it and you can make some jokes.
So you can say, okay, maybe this is a chance for him to resurrect his career.
and it just it just doesn't feel like they're done.
And it's been frustrating for many years that the Steelers haven't done more
to kind of address their long-term succession plan for Ben Rothesberger
when you could see this coming.
But, you know.
How do you think he would have taken that?
Not great.
That's probably not as great as Aaron Rogers would have.
Although I don't think he would have turned it into a back-to-back MVP seasons.
I don't think he had that in him.
I don't think so either.
I am excited to see a quarterback who can move there.
a little bit. It'll be jarring to have it on our television screens.
It is going to be, we talked about this yesterday. It's going to be weird. It's going to be such
a weird offense. A Steelers quarterback carrying the ball.
I mean, that's what they should do. I mean, if you're not going to be good, at least be weird.
And I think that's the point that they need to reach with Chubisky, at least in the short term,
as they figure out what this is going to look like. But when a contract, listen to what a contract
is telling you. I think it's something that I've learned over time. And that contract tells you
that this is not a long-term commitment. This is a, let's see what happens.
as we look for whoever our quarterback of the future is going to be,
and to not compromise yourself financially when you're going through that process,
I think makes a lot of sense for the Steelers.
All right, let's run through some of the bigger signings that have happened since yesterday.
Marcus Williams, five years, $70 million with $37 million guaranteed to go to the Ravens.
The Ravens were a team we thought might be in the safety market.
And when I was talking to Sheel and Nate last week,
we mentioned Tyron Matthew as a potential Ravens fit.
instead they go and get arguably the top safety on the market.
Five years, $70 million, $37 million guaranteed is a big deal, but it's not crazy.
It's not market setting.
I mean, it comes in just under the Kevin Byer at Buda Baker number just ahead of what
Quadra Diggs got yesterday.
Makes sense for both parties, in my opinion.
I love it.
I think it's my favorite deal of the day.
I know we're going to talk kind of at the end of the show, wrapping up some of our favorites.
So far, it's my favorite deal of the day for fit.
for the team, fit for the player.
The contract isn't nuts.
I mean, we're not seeing, you know, resetting of the market with some of these deals.
The defensive back market, that's kind of, I think we're going to get into some of the
cornerback stuff.
We've seen some big deals, but we haven't seen those crazy like, holy shit, I can't believe
they're breaking the bank for these positions.
So I like it.
It's because the Jags don't have a need at that spot.
That's why.
That's fair because the Jags are investing all of their money in off ball spots.
It's like, I, you look at.
the Ravens defense is now, they still have needs up front.
And I just keep waiting for them to sign Zadaria Smith.
It would be the most Ravens bullshit.
Bring him back.
Well, the Marcus Williams move is a little bit out of character.
They don't really go for these huge splashes in unrestricted free agency.
A lot of the time they'll make moves where, like Kevin Seiler, last year is a perfect
example, right?
Gets cut, doesn't play into the comp formula.
Marcus Williams absolutely does.
But to have Zadarius Smith, let him walk for, I would assume, a fourth round comp,
pick and then wait for him to get cut and then sign him for half of the price after he's
released and have it not affect the comp pick formula is the most Ravens stuff that you can
really ever imagine. That's like Bill Belichick level shit. That's what the Ravens do all the time.
They did with Pernell McPhee. It was just not as impressive because he's not as good of a player.
So this is the most Ravens thing that they could possibly do is bring back to Darius Smith
at this point because they do need help up front. I mean, that is absolutely a spot where
there are a lot of bodies both on the interior and the edge. So I would expect.
at least one more move in that area for them.
Clayas Campbell is a free agent right now.
Yep.
Ultimately, does he come back?
Yeah, so there's some questions there.
Feels like that would make sense.
I don't know.
Is Callias Campbell, does he want to start over at this stage of his career?
Yeah, I think he wants to check it out.
He wants to kind of just see, okay, what's the market like?
He's gotten to do this a couple times now, but see what's the best fit.
Ultimately, that would probably be my, you know, if I was betting on it where he's going
to go, that he'd come back.
But I just, I like it.
I just didn't think it was a crazy deal.
It just made a ton of sense.
You know, Eric Dacosta has earned a ton of that benefit of the doubt, right?
Where they don't make a ton of, like, dumb moves.
You know, they say, okay, if Dacosta wanted to spend the money here,
I think there's a reason they really like this guy.
And I just, yeah, I'm excited about it, my favorite move of the day.
All right.
So our own Connor Hughes at the Athletic have been reporting that the Jets were in on
Williams and they were interested in him.
He goes to Baltimore, Joe Douglas Pivots.
The J. Reid, three years, 13.
$33 million.
This is around what the Ronald Darby contract was last year.
I mean, it's just starting corner in free agency.
And this makes sense in terms of value.
They needed somebody at that spot.
I mean, their secondary was an absolute disarray coming into this process.
And they had a lot of money to spend.
So obviously he has a history in that Seattle scheme, which Robert Solid knows extremely well.
So that is a little bit of a little point of connection there.
And then it sounds like the Jets also signed Jordan Whitehead.
Yeah.
Yeah, I believe that's happened right before we started recording.
It's barely in my outline as a result of that.
So the Jets add two guys to their secondary.
Those were huge positions of need.
I mean, they signed a guard, they signed a safety, they signed a corner and a tight end.
They signed C.J. Zama yesterday.
Three years, 24 million.
I mean, those are the spots.
If you're looking at this roster, that's where they needed guys.
And they paid up for some of them.
$10 million a year for DJ Reed isn't a cheap contract.
What they paid for Lake and Tomlinson is in a cheap contract.
Tomlinson isn't a cheap contract, but this is how you have to spend in free agency if you want starters.
So this isn't, this isn't Zay Jones for $10 million a year or whatever it was in Jacksonville.
To me, all of these makes sense, even if they are slight overpays, because that's the nature of what this process looks like.
The Jordan Whitehead deal, two years, 14 and a half.
Yeah, I mean, those kinds of contracts, we talked about it with Barnwell.
when you're hunting in the 3.5 to 5% of the cap type deals, which a lot of these are going to think the Reed contract will be just over that.
But Uzama, uh, uh, Osama, Jordan Whitehead, those sorts of deals, very rarely do those haunt you?
Because you're really not giving up that much.
It's $7 million a year.
If it's the first year and a half is guaranteed and you have to move on, it's three and a half million dollars in dead money after year two or whatever it is.
it's those aren't going to sink you so even if the ceiling is lower the floor is also higher with
deals like that so you're not really sitting there ever thinking oh man i can't believe we have
this guy on the books for this amount of money and that's a range where the jets seem to be shopping
right yeah i mean i don't buy there there's no part of me that expects the jets to be this year's
version of the bengals um but these were the type of some of the type of deals that the bengals
made last year to fortify their roster that would you pair it with joe
Burrow and Jamar Chase launched them on this path to an AFC championship.
Functional NFL defenders is what the Jets needed on the back end of their defense.
And that is what Jordan Whitehead and DJ Reed are.
Let's stick with the quarterback musical chairs here.
Charvarius Ward, three years, $40 million to go to the Niners.
Good for Charverius Ward.
Undrafted, I mean, had a really nice run in Kansas City.
This is similar in terms of value to the deals we saw handed out to Shack Griffin last year,
to William Jackson.
It's real free agent cornerback money.
With the cap going up, I think that the percentages would be similar to those two guys.
It's an interesting fit.
I mean, he was a physical pressman corner with the Chiefs.
That's what they did.
And I think it's worth watching as you see some of these teams.
They're really headquarters heavy on early downs or, you know, too high based on early downs.
The Chargers, the Niners, what kind of corners they're going for right now.
because J.C. Jackson with the Chargers doesn't necessarily make sense for a real zone heavy team at first glance,
but I totally understand why they're doing it. How are they going to let Traverius War play within that defense is something worth watching for me?
But this is a need for them, and I think it gives them a different feel to that cornerback group than what they had.
Yeah, it breaks formula. This is the most money they've ever spent at that position in the John Lynch, Kyle Shanahan era.
But it was a clear need for them. So I like it.
I'm wondering exactly what it means for Kansas City to lose him.
I think they thought there was a chance that they were going to be able to keep him.
They've gone sheep at corner in this regime, right?
I mean, they've never really spent at that position.
And they reacted to this by giving Justin Reed a three or $30 million contract.
Yeah.
And that's, I mean, that me, I think we already kind of knew this was coming, but Tyron Matthew is not going to be coming back to Kansas City.
I mean, they were, that was kind of part of this plan.
Justin Reed is about two thirds, the cost of what Tyron Matthew was.
But now their quarterback depth chart is Ligeria Sneed and Richard Fenton, I believe, when you're playing in a division that has a lot of really good receivers and a lot of really good quarterbacks.
So AFC West is going to be going to be wild.
And I just, I want to see if they do something else to address.
It's fascinating how they've pieced that together over the last couple of years.
I mean, going in D'Andre Baker and Mike Hughes and these kind of by low propositions they've engaged in at that spot, they've managed to cobble it together.
And the way that the defense is structured, they rely on the safety so heavily.
And it feels like that's what they see Jordan Reed or Justin Reed as.
I mean, he's a really, really good athlete.
And I assume they're going to try to use him in a multifaceted role.
I mean, that defense is really predicated on disguise and all of those moving pieces.
And his movement skills are obviously fantastic.
He played a decent amount in the box for Houston last year.
He can play a little bit everywhere.
And my guess is that's what they're going to ask him to do.
But he's not Tyron.
Matthew and I think that's something to keep in mind. Yeah. And there, you know, he's going to have to
take over probably a lot of the leadership stuff, the, um, lining everybody up being the voice in the
room, all of that kind of stuff. I think he's capable of doing that for sure. But it's a big void for
the chiefs to lose Tyron Matthew, the person and what he meant to, um, to that locker room and that
team during the, during kind of this, you know, two Super Bowls, that kind of run. Before we take
another quick break here. I wanted to just touch on
the JAG spending spree that continued
after we stopped recording yesterday.
Zay Jones, three years,
$24 million. That's the craziest one
to me. What are we doing? That one
is, you can talk
yourself in to
the Christian Kirk one. Even if
it's an overpay, clearly. You
can talk yourself into it. He has
juice from the slot. They need somebody
like that. I still think it's
wild, but I think you can talk yourself
into it. The Zay Jones one is just, I don't
understand it at all. I don't either. And now, and now there's going to be other dominoes
that come with that where, you know, now that are they going to have to move Leviska-Schanal,
who I really like? And that's not just because I watched him play a lot at Colorado, but they
had some, like, good depth receivers. And now you're overpaying for some of these other guys.
And what does that mean for the rest of your roster? So I don't know. I don't know.
Everton, Ingram, one year, nine million. Fine. worthwhile, worthwhile flyer, if you thought that
that offense was such a disaster, you use him in a really specific way. We got the
Brandon Shurf terms, 16 and a half million per year.
Reset the guard market, which you can expect.
For a player with Brandon Shirf's pedigree, for his peaks, even if he's injured a decent
amount, you have to worry about that.
It's not surprising to see him top the Joe Tuni number from last year.
Based salaries in 2022 and 23 are guaranteed.
He has a $20 million cap hit next year.
That's what they did with all of these big contract guys.
With Kirk, Leukon, and with Shurf, they have big bumps after small cap hits in
2022. So, I mean, all three of those guys are going to be making around $20 million against the
cap next year. The cap is going up, but this is what you do when you hand out these massive contracts
in free agency. I mean, eventually those are, as soon as next year, you're going to look at those
cap numbers and be like, oh, man, those are high. And they are moving out, Cam Robinson is when
there for a year. I mean, just they've already cut, they cut Miles Jack today.
And cut Miles Jack.
They have so much cap space.
Trevor Lawrence is on a rookie deal.
I understand all of this.
When has this ever worked out?
When have you ever looked at a contract like the Kirk won?
I'm glad this is on the books.
This is definitely going to take us where we want to go.
This could be an outlier.
He could be a good player for them.
Their offense is better because Christian Kirk is there.
But just this path and this version of a plan, there's just so few examples of it working out well for someone.
So with all of those moves,
now DJ Chark is the odd man out in Jacksonville.
He signs a one-year $12 million deal with the Lions.
Makes perfect sense to me.
I mean, they absolutely have a need there.
So I'm on Ross St. Brown.
Obviously, does a very different thing than what DJ Chark does.
They needed an outside receiver.
They have cap space.
I mean, this is the type of move that he's not going to block anyone.
If they draft a receiver, they can play all three of those guys at the same time.
So, understand.
how you land here if you were the lions. And he's somebody with real upside.
Speed, size on the outside. If you, let's say he hits and you want to make him part of your
long term plan. He's still very young. I get this from Detroit's perspective. Yeah, I mean,
two years ago, he was a thousand yard receiver. I think as recently as the 2020 season, he was like
90 plus catches. Our Larry Holder had some really good telling stats about how few of the past. So he's a
lot of targets, but not a super high catch percentage, but so many of his balls were deemed to be
uncatchable. Um, so look, I don't know if that's going to get that much better playing with
Jared Goff necessarily, but, um, I don't think his stats necessarily indicate the type of player he is.
So, um, pretty low risk move there for the lions who were also interested in, uh, Alan Robinson,
but I think ultimately decided that, um, they weren't going to spend whatever Robinson was going to get,
who is still out there, but I think it's, a truck is younger to.
Right?
I mean, I think that's another question you have to ask yourself is like, where can this go?
It does work out.
I mean, DJ Chark is a few years younger.
So I have a question for you.
If you were a team that needs a quarterback and you were one of the teams when the music stopped that was left without someone.
We're running out of answers for that, by the way.
I think that's affecting the Jimmy Garoppolo market.
I mean, the Colts and what they're going to do is obviously a question.
Jared Goff has a $10 million base salary this year.
the lions would save $15 million if they trade him.
Are you saying?
I'm just bringing this up.
I'm just throwing this out there.
I don't know at this stage for the lions,
I don't know if saving that $15 million would be worth it for them.
They'd be left without a quarterback.
I think they want to appear mildly competitive.
There are culture questions involved there.
Who's going to be your quarterback?
Maybe the $15 million in savings isn't worth it.
But I don't know.
It's just a name because there's so few guys that,
their team isn't connected to them for any long term, like for the long term.
It's like, oh, he's not going to be in their plans two years from now.
So maybe he'd be available.
But it's kind of funny that so many of the quarterback seats have already been taken that I'm not sure who would even be interested in Jared Gough.
But I was looking at their cap, it just jumped out to me.
Yeah, I mean, it's like, okay, well, then who?
Is it the Colts?
Would the Colts want Jared Gough?
Would the Saints want Jared?
Whoever loses out on the Deshawn Watson sweepstakes, would they want Jared Gough?
You know, there's just not a ton of landing with the Seahawks.
I mean, I'm trying to think of who are the rest of the teams.
Those are the teams.
Those are definitely the teams.
Look, I mean, he's not great, but he's made it to a Super Bowl.
Like, what's the gulf between Jared Gough and Jimmy Garoppelow?
What's the difference between Jared Gough and Carson Wentz?
That's kind of what I'm saying.
If you need a functional quarterback this year and his base salary is 10 million bucks
and you can get him for some draft capital, is that worth it?
But again, we're running out of teams that need that sort of answer.
And the Lions might be happy with him being their functional quarterback as they bridge to whatever they're going to do in 2020.
Exactly. Maybe the $15 million they save isn't worth it for the Lions.
All right. Before we get out of here, wanted to talk to you about some of your favorite moves, some of your favorite plans that you've seen here over the first 36 hours or so of free agency.
Sure. Well, I already talked about the Marcus Williams deal. I obviously really, I obviously really liked that one.
I'm trying to know.
I need to go back through all of the ones from yesterday.
J.C. Jackson to the Chargers.
I think I really just like the Chargers' overall plan.
And that's not just because of my AFC West homerism.
I swear that's not the only reason that I like this.
I just, in general, and I think I've been pretty consistent with this over the course of my
career or whatever, I just like plans.
I want to see teams that know who they are, what their identity is,
and what their plan is to improve.
improve and to build around the assets that they have.
And I very much appreciate that the Chargers, Tom Telesco and Brandon Staley, they understand
what they have in Justin Herbert.
And they understand the weaknesses of their team, too.
They understand what went wrong for them in 2021 and the things that they needed to do to improve.
And that was addressing their defensive line.
And they went ahead and did that.
Sebastian Joseph Day, Austin Johnson, a couple front seven players to add to Cleo Mac from last
week. And then J.C. Jackson just gives them a corner that they're going to have a ton of
flexibility with. So they're probably my biggest winner so far of free agency. And usually it's,
you know, the teams that make the most moves in free agency, those aren't the teams that
ultimately win later on. I just think they've been very strategic and very smart about the guys
they've gone out and acquired so far. If I was building a priority list for the Chargers this
offseason, it would have been. And even just knowing, having a sense of what they needed and what
they wanted. Interior defensive line, a corner.
Those are the two biggest things. Can we get depth in the interior of the defensive line
for run stuffing especially and go get a corner? And then a right tackle is still on that list.
They've done two-thirds of that and we'll see what happens at right tackle. And they got
Khalil Mack. Kalil Mack was not part of that conversation. So them going to get, Sebastian
Joseph Day to the Chargers made the most sense to me of any player team value fit. That's
exactly what they need is the type of guy who creates that connective tissue of your defense,
especially off front against the run. We've seen him do it. He did it for Brandon Staley with the Rams.
Him, Austin Johnson, are going to fill those exact roles. J.C. Jackson gives them some flexibility.
Cleo Mack is an excellent run defender. I mean, you add him to Joey Bosa. It's everything they want
from a physicality standpoint. In that defense now, a little bit, maybe some depth at linebacker
later in the draft, things like that.
But for now, it's almost close to complete.
You add a right tackle somewhere along the way,
and you find some juice at receiver,
maybe even in the first round.
Now we're talking.
Again, you don't want to overrate or overstate
how important some of these early moves in free agency are.
But I think when you look at their roster,
when you look at their needs,
when you look at where they want it to go,
it's encouraging.
It's really exciting what this team is shaping up to be right now.
Teams that were a little quieter,
but I kind of appreciated the ways that they've attacked this,
I think the Dolphins approach to this makes total sense.
The Chase Edmonds contract is reasonable for a running back.
They go get Cedric Wilson, Connor Williams on a two-year $14 million deal.
You just need bodies.
Connor Williams isn't great, but they need functional NFL offensive linemen.
That's what he provides them.
I also thought the Austin Corbett contract to Carolina was pretty good for that reason.
The Panthers absolutely needed another starter in the interior offensive line.
They got him for about $8 million a year.
And they go get Teddy for $6 million a year in Miami.
So their approach right now, I think totally reasonable.
I always am interested in what the bills do, how they approach this just because they've been such a fascinating team and free agency over the last couple years.
And they've just done so much bill shit over the last day or so to go get DeKuan Jones, who I like.
You know, Tim Settle, who couldn't find a spot in the rotation to Washington, but is perfect for a Buffalo team that lets their guys play 42% of the snaps.
Roger Saffold is there now.
going to get J.D. McKissick to add like a very specific skill set.
You can just see it, right, to add a very specific skill set to their backfield.
So just everything the bills do, I'm always looking at it in this time on the calendar just because I think they always have a really interesting plan and it makes sense in a lot of ways.
And then the Giants are taking on a very bills-esque approach in what they've done over the last day, going to get John Feliciano to play center for a year.
Mark Lewinsky on a three-year, $18 million deal to be.
be a functional right guard for them. Bobby Johnson, who was the offensive line coach for the
Bills, is now with the Giants, this process of, all right, we're going to go get you a bunch of
moderately priced pieces and you figure out how to use it. That's the process that they went
through in Buffalo for years, just dice roll after dice roll after dice roll in free agency. And it seems
like they're trying to do that again as they cobble this group together. So those are just three
teams that jumped out. They're not necessarily good or bad, but just their set of moves overall,
I found interesting to me. I'll say we talked about the chargers before. Brian Bulaga officially
has been cut while we have been here talking. So that was kind of a procedural move that we
were all expecting. And now we just kind of wait to see what the quarterback. I think it's the
what's going to happen with Sean Watson. How quickly is this move going to happen? And then maybe what else
is going to happen with this edge rusher market? Yeah. I think those are the,
some of the other big dominoes, right? Von Miller, Chandler Jones,
what ultimately ends up happening there,
Tehran Armstead, you know, does Deshaun Watson's choice affect what he ultimately wants to do
as it relates to New Orleans.
So we'll be keeping our eye on all of that over the next day or so.
We will be back tomorrow.
Same time, excuse me, 4 p.m. Eastern with Shield.
So please come.
Before we sign off, the people want to know if you're going to be wearing your glasses
tomorrow.
I did not know the glasses would be so controversial.
I'm just saying I logged in because I wanted to see after the Christian Kirk deal yesterday, I like logged in to the live check because I just wanted to see what you guys, how you were reacting to it. And I was just stunned to see the glasses. And I tweet, I got in the chat. No, people are asking about the glasses. So people want to know about Casey always was on me because I didn't have glasses. And she's like, how do you not have a pair of glasses? Because I wear contacts, but I haven't had a pair of glasses for years. I was like, all right, it's time to finally get glasses. And the first day I wear them, it just becomes a thing. Barnwell giving me.
shit about it. So I'm going to be sparing in how I use the glasses from now on. I think I'm a little
self-conscious about it. People said you look like you were trying to get into Hogwarts. So then it
got into this whole discussion about like a sorting hat and which house would you be in.
And I had to explain that Nate and I have tried to teach you about Harry Potter.
No, you can't tell people this that I don't care about Harry Potter because it's like the
worst thing you can say on the internet. I don't dislike it. I just never, it's never been
important to me. When we went to Harry Potter World during Super Bowl week, which was a very fun media
party version of the media party we all went to harry potter world and when we turned the corner and
Nate saw the castle and i lost our shit he had a religious experience and i was like oh that's
really cool that's a very impressive feat of human engineering but there was nothing deep in my soul that
was affected by seeing hoggwards yeah i know like Nate and i were crying we were like
hyperventilating and robert was like whatever it's friday night no big deal so anyways we're
i had a great time it was a very pleasant evening all right that's all right that's all
we got tomorrow he's going to be wearing the glasses it'll be great i may wear the glasses again she'll
be here at four p.m don't let us shame you out of the glasses where are the glasses they're right here
but i have my contact send it gives me a headache sheil is going to be here with us at four p m eastern on
wednesday so please come check that out she'll has obviously been grading all of the moves in free agency
on the athletic you can go read that if you go grab an athletic subscription at the athletic
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We'll be back tomorrow with Sheel,
and then Thursday, Nate and I will be back
with another live show.
So we will keep these coming over the next couple days.
For now, I appreciate you guys listening.
We'll talk to you soon.
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