The Athletic Hockey Show - Brandon Tanev's Seattle Kraken playoff push, Patrick Kane & Jonathan Toews need to move on & Jim Rutherford throws shad at Bruce Boudreau again

Episode Date: January 17, 2023

This week on the Tuesday boyzzz, Craig and Sean welcome Brandon Tanev of the red hot Seattle Kraken, (even though they lost last night). Tanev discusses his journey to the NHL, his time at Providence college and how the 2nd year Kraken are poised to make the playoffs.Custance and Gentille discuss how the time has come for Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane to move on from the Chicago BlackHawks and they unpack Jim Rutherford's press conference in Vancouver, where Jim didn't deny that he's had conversations with perspective head coaches, while Bruce Boudreau continues to flounder behind the bench for the Canucks. Subscribe to The Athletic Hockey Show on YouTube: http://youtube.com/@theathletichockeyshowGet a 1-year subscription to The Athletic for $2 a month when you visit http://theathletic.com/hockeyshowCancel unwanted subscriptions – and manage your expenses the easy way – by going to http://rocketmoney.com/hockeyshowGo to http://grammarly.com/tone to download and learn more about Grammarly Premium’s advanced tone suggestions.Visit our sponsor Better Help at http://betterhelp.com/NHLSHOW today to get 10% off your first month Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is the Athletic Hockey Show. Hey, everybody. It is your favorite Tuesday American hosts with the Athletic Hockey Show. Craig Custins joined by Sean Gentilly in Pittsburgh. I know you like me to tell everyone where you are, Sean. I know you love to. Yeah, you use my address too. Boogie Wookie.

Okay. One, two, three, four. One one. Huh? No. No. It's one, one, two, boogie Wicaboo. Boy, do we have a good show.

producer Jeff hooked this one up. On Friday, we recorded a conversation with Brandon Tanniv that although he's not American, we allowed it on a couple technicalities. One, he plays for an American team, the red hot Seattle Cracken. Which is enough, by that way. We've had Canadian players play for American teams. Theoretically. We call it the Matt Duchain exemption.

How many Canadian players have we had? That's a great question. Not a ton. Not a ton. But Brandon plays for an American team. He's played for two American teams. And he went to college. Yes. I would say more importantly, if you go the, as I like to say, American University route, you get to, you can be a guest in the podcast. It's like that old saying. What is the old saying? It's a hashtag, actually. American University hockey. That's what everybody calls it. That's right With they Hashtag

American University hockey Especially when I'm on holiday And I talk about my son's plans To play to go to American University So that comes up And he was really good And also points to Sean and I For not asking about the ghost face mugshot

We've moved past that I actually have I truly have I'm that no longer interests me Yeah I can't interest brand in all that much Honestly I just feel like if you're Brandon Tan

Anytime you're doing an interview That's like ours where you're just popping on a show or whatever I'm sure it comes up So I just was like let's not I don't even think we talked about it wasn't like a conscious like No Don't talk mugshot But I'm like he's got a great story

He was like Don't believe Craig when he says that folks He said if I asked Brandon About the mugshot he would fire me That's what you said Well, I think we've moved on. And he is a great story. Like, he was, he didn't play hockey for his, like, four years or whatever in his formative years.

And, like, that's, that's one in a million. He didn't play hockey from 15 to 19. That can get me right. 19 was his freshman year at Providence. That can't be. That math doesn't add up. But he didn't play hockey. He was out there doing cross-country or whatever, because he was too short.

and then unlike me got a growth spurt. Anyways, it's really good. It's a good conversation. Do you have anything to edit that, John? I don't appreciate you. Slagging my research there. Well, I don't think it's right. Also, I did have a growth spurt enough to be taller than Sean, as we know.

The other thing I would add is... That is insane. That's not true. By the way, after experiencing a girl spurt during his final year, at East York Collegiate Institute, Tina was able to secure a roster spot with the marks and waxers of the OJHL.

Is that a league of some sort? He didn't play hockey until he was, I'm telling you, he didn't play hockey until he was 19, he didn't play major competitive hockey until he was 19. That's a great story. And he played for an OJHL team. So we talked about that, not ghost face. Do they call him ghost?

Do you like teammates? I don't think so. Nobody does. they don't call them that no hey how are we feeling about the cracking they went on set records on the road I know they're coming off a loss I feel like we talk about them a lot

and it's the same like they're getting goaltending they have scoring but at some point are we going to say hey this team is a playoff team that we care about where are they I think we're almost there but I still don't trust Martin Jones

I don't like has he been better than Philip Grubauer was last year? Yes. Yeah, of course. Like, that also wasn't, I think you or me would be better than Philip Grubauer was last year. I don't, I wouldn't. I'm better, I'm better than Philip Grubauer and should be paid accordingly so I can make $10 million a year or whatever that deals for. And this is not the slag on one, Martin.

This might be an outdated opinion, honestly, because he's been fantastic lately, right? In his last seven games, has won all seven. Obviously, they're on this, they're on this terrace. Yeah, where this is the guy got to do? And he's putting up a 926 to a percentage. Solid. Great. That is different from the way he was up until the last seven games,

where he was just competent enough to win. And they also have been on a little bit of a shooting percentage bender, which is, you know, it counts. It all counts. I'm not slagging what they've done up until this point. But it's not. it doesn't bode well for the future, right? When you have a guy who's been historically as bad as Jones has been for the last three years

and you're shooting it team-wide, you know, whatever, 11% or something. Like, it's tough to look at all that and say that it's going to keep clicking in a similar way for the rest of the season. That being said, there's a lot of good stuff going on there, A. And the Pacific Division isn't any good. that's maybe that's the biggest thing that's it right because calgary is you know still scuffling a little bit they're subsisting on losers points for the most part even though they play better of light the kings are you know still something missing with them you can't take a team that's starting

phoenix copley all that seriously and the oilers you know even though they've won three in a row are still a mess. They're not a good 5-150 team. Yeah. They're paying Jack Campbell a gazillion dollars to, you know, make everybody nervous, right? So if you look at it and if you look, so if you look at it from that standpoint, you know, things are, things are looking good. They banked a lot of points. Dude, they have a 651 points percentage.

They have 56 points. they're solidly, you know, outside of the wild card discussion, right? Right. Whether it's, you know, Edmonton or Calgary, if any of these teams make a move, like, they've got a ways to go before they, before they catch up with Seattle. So, no, I like, I like what they're doing. I'm just still not sold on them playing at, you know, an 8-2-0 pace for the rest of the season. Are they still shooting?

What's their team shooting percentage? They're like, that was the one red flag. Yeah, that's a great question. And that's something that we've tracked for, you know, most of the season, right? And that's a big reason to, like I said, a big, big reason to. Like you can say, oh, they've added scoring, so they're scoring more. Or maybe they're scoring more because the puck's going in. I mean, I guess that's how scoring works.

It can be both. And I like that that's something we've landed on, I think, as a sport and as, people who analyze the sport five years ago or seven years ago there was way too much like actually shock quality doesn't exist and it's not a repeatable and it's not a repeatable scale and all that stuff whereas now we can acknowledge because of you know just progression of thought and also improvement of of the way we measure these things that yeah uh finishing finishing skill is you know more of a thing than some folks thought a while ago and that's how you can have tage Thompson shooting 15% and not getting slagged at every moment because because you can say like,

you know, all right, he's taking a lot of snapshots from from this point. And he's, he's got that kind of ability. But yeah, as far as, you know, but again, like I said, I said 11%. They're actually a little bit over 11% at 5 on 5. They're at 11.2% Seattle is in, ironically, Vancouver is next at 9.87. Why? I know they're a Canadian team. Do we want to talk about. Bruce Boutreau. Hey, hey, let's treat Bruce a little better, folks. Yeah. Can we?

Yeah. That's the takeaway from this. Like, who cares that they're awful? Treat brute, come on. Bruce is such a good dude. He deserves, he's a veteran, coach. This is, I've said this, we've said this before. Both of us have.

Treat them better. We've both said this at various points in the season. people are getting for better or worse a look at the real Jim Rutherford. Oh, man. It's true. I think people get lulled into the thought that he's this like kindly old man, this grandfatherly guy because he is however old he is, that he isn't a cutthroat, a cutthroat old so-and-so. Hey, can you be both shot?

He is. He is a kindly old man. He is and he also like has very little sympathy and very little, very doesn't have an issue with doing things like keeping Bruce Bruchro flaping in the breeze and saying that he's talking to replacements publicly at a press conference yesterday. Hey, I like, I like Bruce, but I am, I may be reaching out to people that could replace him on a moment's notice. That's the thing I like about Jim, say what you want. He will let you know what he's doing. And this is like, and this is like the worst. I'm trying to tactfully say this. This is like the worst possible situation for Jim to be in because he wants to do something

and can't. You know he's dying to make a trade. This is what it would look like if he wanted to fire somebody and for one reason or another, could not. It's not tough math to do. Nobody wants to pay two coaches. Least of all the Vancouver Canucks. And he can't, he can't keep his mouth shut.

So you put a microphone, you put him on the phone, he says this stuff. Oh my gosh. You put him in front of a microphone with the lights on. He's like, it game over. I remember one of my first conversations with him way a thousand years ago. I had to make sure we were on. on the record. I was like,

he was telling me such good stuff. I'm like, just, I'm like, before we get too far, I'm like, we haven't established parameters here. We are on the record, right? He's like,

I don't care. Whatever. Are you, you should. You should, you should, maybe should care. And he's, like,

he's been saved from his self. Everybody's heard stories about that. Like, like, it's happened, like, it's a thing with him where you're like, okay, like,

also they may still be paying Travis Green, Sean. Oh my God, is that true? That can't be true. I believe it may be true. Do you believe it or do you know it? Oh, you know me. I know just enough. There's simply no way to say.

We're going to look this up right now. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. It is true. Yeah. It is true.

Good for him, by the way. Travis Green? Good for any. coach that does that. It just is like, okay, see you later. I'm not doing anything until this, until this, until, until this, until, until, until this, until, until, till the check stop coming from the, from the original deal. It's the dream. Would you not do anything? If I, if I were, you would, you would, you just disappear for three years. If you had three years

term on your contract and yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, you would. And I got fired. Absolutely. I wouldn't do anything. I would do that if I, with any job. if I got fired with term left and how to get all paid out, I would do nothing. Good to know. Guess what? Guess what? You want to disappear me there, big boy? Just say the word.

Keep paying me out my very handsome salary and stick me on a boat somewhere. The other thing I want, before we get to Brandon Tanna, I, Pierre wrote a piece. You know, I'm a trade junkie. I have always been. So he's talking trade destinations. Patrick Kane to the Rangers, which we've been talking about, that seems like it's been going forever, you know, Panarin, et cetera. The one thing I want to talk about, because I think to me that the, you know, the Black Hawk situation, maybe it's the most interesting part of the trade deadline. Jonathan Taves, I think this was yesterday, spoke with NBC, I want to make sure I get it right, NBC Sports Chicago.

Yeah, it was Charlie Rameleotis. Yeah. And if Las and Powers had this, I apologize to both of you. You guys do great work. You don't think they do? C-plus. You guys do, I just want to say you guys do a really solid work with two of you. Tave says to Charlie and others, possibly, I don't know.

There's a part of myself that still doesn't really want to admit the situation and also wants to continue being a Black Hawk. That's an interesting start of a sentence because it's a part of himself now. You know, there's a part of me. There's a part of me. When you say that there's a part of me that would like to do this and finish my career. But at the same time... It's just not a big enough part.

Yes. There's a part of me that sees the writing on the wall and sees that this team, this organization, is trying to hit the reset button. I don't know what gave it away. And that maybe a change for everybody is not such a bad thing. And that goes for myself as well. Now, I know we were talking about Patrick Kane, but that's, aside from saying, thanks for everything, Blackhawks fans, I'm gone. Like, that's as strong as I've heard.

Even when, like, Claude Giroux went through this last year, I don't remember seeing anything that pointed, I guess I would say. I don't want to take a victory lap here because that, because it should have been obvious to everybody. Like, of course this is what's happening. Of course, this is what's happening. Like, I know that we were still, this is start of the season, rattled off a couple wins, or in the offseason, it's very easy to say, like, well, this is where I want to be. This is my home. I'd love to be part of the solution. Right.

We'll see what happens, whatever. Yeah, that's how it goes. Of course, that's what happens. This team is as bad as it was going to be. It's as bad as it was designed to be. It's as bad as, you know, anybody should have been able to guess. when you looked at the roster and saw like second line center, Sam Lafferty or whatever,

God bless Sam Lafferty for carving out, you know, a pretty nice season here. But like, yeah, what's wrong? Man, not,

I mean, he's, I'm just joking. Go ahead. I didn't mean to talk about Sam Lafferty. Come on. Um, it was always going to get bad.

It was always going to be this bad. You don't put together a roster that is that bankrupt of talent and not, and not have it bottom out at some point during the season. So of course they've been horrific for the last six weeks or eight weeks. It's a long season. And when you're that short on everything, like it's going to come back and bite you, right? So again,

it's one thing to say in the off season or in October. We'll see what happens. That's the mindset these guys have to have. That's what it takes to get up to go to work every day. Yeah. If he says I want out now in September, what are you going to do for the next few months? You can't.

I mean, I get it. If you're him, you can't entertain the thought that the team's going to go two and 18 or whatever. Because, like, how else would you go to work every day? Like, I'm not blaming these guys for hoping for the best when it comes to this stuff. That's their job. It's also completely reasonable for, it should have been reasonable for everybody to look at this and say, like, uh, this isn't going to work.

Once January comes around and we've got 45 games worth of proof in a bunch of ugly losing streaks and it's cold in Chicago and like whatever else. Like those are tough, tough times. So, of course they're doing this now. But you think it's because it's cold? Dave is like, well, we're not going to be playing in June here. How about this? You said it yourself when we said it. I will say it went like 10 minutes when we're talking to. There is no, there is no better place than Chicago in June. No better. Right? It's as, it's as good as it gets. Yeah. But if, but if you're in a hockey. team that's getting its face kicked in every single night and you have to wake up in that

weather and go to work every, like, come on. Not going to happen. And so they're looking at the idea like, oh, I can go, like, if you're Taves, like, wow, maybe, maybe I can go spend a couple months playing for, playing for the Jets, like, that'd be cool. Winnipeg and January is great, too. it's got the it's got the the fun factor of playing for his playing for his hometown team and and they don't and they don't terribly terribly terribly suck whatever all these things are on the table now and of course both these guys are saying like wouldn't be that bad of a

wouldn't be that bad of a deal if I maybe got traded it probably seems like it's probably seems like it's time here's what I want to say to black hawks fans listening I just want to prepare I know you probably know this but for those who don't I want to prepare you for how disappointed you're going to be in the return for these guys. It's going to be way less. You've probably been mentally kicking around trades of these, one of these two since it was clear this team wasn't going to be good for a while. And there maybe was a point in time where you could have gotten a big return and that time is gone.

And so now it's about getting what you can as part of the rebuild. They have control over the situation. Nobody has cap space. it's going to be Giroux 2.0 where you're like, that's it, a second in a B prospect or whatever it's going to end up being unless Kyle Davidson just says,

and I don't know if he can or I don't know what his plan is, but unless he just says, this is the floor. If you want it on these guys, this is it. I can't trade icons for less, but he also needs draft capital.

So, man, I just be prepared for that these to be like two of the most underwhelming deals. Where is the leverage? for Kyle Davidson right now with these guys. Like what is the leverage point? There's none. With teams that are calling them?

Like if, you know, Chris Drewie's calling him, Chris is like, he's Gain only wants to come here, or Buffalo or whatever it is. You have no, okay, here, the team doesn't want these guys around. They don't want, they don't want to pay, if they wanted to extend Taves or Cain for whatever it would take, they would have done it already.

The players, increasingly seem like they don't want to be around after saying and doing all their right things. Not that this is the wrong thing either, but like, but they've, the worms turned there. They can dictate where they go because of the no movement clause stuff, both they can. And there are no teams with any money. None. That's a tough.

That's like, you take, take what you can get. I think the only way for them, Chicago to navigate this is to go to take, to Cana, and say, I need to know, I need at least three teams. I need you to sign off on all three right now. Yes. So I have some leverage. Please give me some, please give us some options. If you care about this franchise.

Yeah, yeah. In that way, it can't be those guys saying, which they'll probably want to do, come talk to me if there's a deal. I'll sign off on it. Yes or no. Because then you don't have leverage if you're the Blackhawks. You need to be able to start calling GMs and say, I've got a list now. I can work off.

I've got a list. All you need is two teams going against each other. That's right. You're on it. So are some others. You need that's under lock and key. I'm sure it'll never get out. But at least you then have, even if it's two teams, you have leverage.

That's all it takes. The second you say, I'm shopping them, but I have to go back for final approval, which again, Kane and Dave's a Vern. So if they want to do it that route, but I mean, we saw it with Matthew Kachuk. He helped, you know, it was interesting to hear. I think it was Keith Kichuk talking about the process. like they helped keep the leverage there for Bradshaw living and I you know that goes a long way oh and also by the way in in Kane's case because Taves bounced back a bit he's not playing that

well either so you have another can you blame it's true no my god I don't blame him at all and like his linemates are you know we've seen him make do with junk linemates in the past right like but he's older now and whatever so that's another potential leverage point removed for the Blackhawks where you can't say like all right well it's still Patrick King you know he's please he's playing at a hundred point pace or blah blah and he's not so it in the defensive issues are getting worse as he ages so like good luck so get ready for a gain for a third with five minutes left I'm just joking that's not going to be the deal you don't do you turn that down if you're the Blackhawks but

it's embarrassing. You just hold on to him for the rest. Yeah. But if you get a first, you get a first in a C plus prospect for Patrick Kane. You do it. You do it. All right. Coming up next, we got Brandon Tanniv, who is great. We didn't even ask him about the photo. Lots of restraint in this interview. Really good. Interesting guy. We didn't really ask him about Eidley all that much either. I wanted to, we wanted to send his ass off and let him enjoy himself. I wanted to talk about Eadley, which is where he was going to slam some food with his,

with his teammates in Chicago. I once ordered a artichoke dish from an eatily in New York and didn't know how to eat it. And I was with somebody who I didn't want to, like, act like, I didn't know how to eat it. So I was just chewing on it. I was eating too much of, like, I did. Good. It was just, no, it was just, like, colleague, I'd say. And I was like, oh, I don't want to be, like, some rube.

It doesn't know how to eat a, eatily. What do I do? and boy did I mess so I had to like sit and chew for hours like a cow it was like in the office when they make Kevin eat broccoli and eats the back in first

that's how I was eating this hour of too way to go Brandon Teneb would do no such thing I'm sure Brandon he knows how to eat he's a millionaire he knows how to eat we'll be right back we're out thrilled to be joined

by Seattle Crackin fan favorite since day one Brandon Tanev calling in from Chicago. So we honestly don't want to keep them long because it's one of my favorite cities on the tour. But Brandon, thanks for doing this. Yeah, thanks for having me, guys.

And I hope you guys are all doing well. Yeah, I think we're doing all right. How are you doing it, John? I'm fine. Whatever. This is, we're doing our best. Brandon, are there like, do you have like midday plans in Chicago? Like, is there like a restaurant you're going to hit up or something?

Like, like, what's the, what's on the docket here? We got a day off today. So a couple of us will probably just kind of walk around, maybe grab lunch somewhere. There's a place called Ely. It's like a little Italian market. And I think some of us might go there for lunch. And I haven't been outside yet, but hopefully the weather's pretty good. So we can walk around and enjoy the city because it is a beautiful city.

It's great. It's not great, January, if we're like truth be told generally, but it's great. It's really good. So, so, Brandon, there's a couple things I wanted to get into in a second. but I think we should start with Seattle and just in how the turnaround this season. And for, you know, those of us who haven't been there every day, I mean, I think there's, we see and we're like, oh, the goaltending's better. They got some players back who were injured, you know, present company included.

You know, they're getting, they've got some maybe more pure goal scorers. But really, from your perspective, what has been the biggest difference? Yeah, obviously, I think, you know, last year, it was a difficult year. But it was a great year, obviously, for the. for the franchise, for the city and becoming a team in the national hockey league, but I don't think anybody was happy with the results.

So kind of left a bitter taste for us going into the off season and understanding what we needed to do to come back this season and compete and be a great team. I think our coaching staff, our management, our leadership group,

all put that bug in our year if you want to say, you know, next year is going to be different. Next year we want to be competing next year we want to be in the playoffs. And I think some great key offseason accusations. I think we've, you know, we've had Andre Berkovsky who's been great for us, you know, all over Bjork Strand, you know, Maddie Beniris has stepped up as a rookie for us. And, you know, Martin Jones has been incredible for us. So I think as a group, we've been playing a lot better hockey and understands what it takes to win on a consistent basis every night.

In the off season, when you see these guys get added to the mix, whether it's signing Berikovsky or trading for Bjork Strander, you know, adding these, adding these like serious, serious pieces. What's that like as a guy who's on the roster when you see, you know, the GM and Ron and and whoever else was involved with that, just, you know, adding to that group and kind of hitting hitting on stuff that you guys, I'm sure knew you needed in some capacity. Like, is that, what kind of, what kind of vibes you carry out of the off season when you know that you kind of added those sort of pieces? Yeah, I think it's great, obviously. anytime you're able to add a great established NHL player that's going to bring a different aspect to our team.

I think it's awesome, obviously. Guys in our team were very excited to add those guys. And I didn't mention Justin Schultz, but there's another guy. I was fortunate up to play with him in Pittsburgh for a couple years. But, I mean, he's been a great defenseman in the National Hockey League for a long time. And he's been playing unbelievable hockey for us. So you add different elements to an existing team that already has. had a lot of great pieces and I think we understood how we need to play as a team and I think

we've been doing that consistently throughout the year. Yeah. Yeah. So, unless Sean, you have any more Seattle questions. One of the things I was, I was really thinking about Brandon and getting a chance to talk to you is, and it was top of mind for me because I was just having a conversation with my daughter who's playing freshman basketball. And my family, we are not blessed with basketball height. And so she was like, hey, what happens if, you know, I don't make, she really is into it. And she's like, what it happens if I, you know, I don't grow like the other people. And I, and I've always, I've loved your story about, you know, there was a, whatever it was, four year span where you didn't play in your, in high school, you didn't play hockey. You were doing cross country and track and soccer, whatever

it was. And I'm just curious as somebody in such formative years, um, like what that was like for you and how you kind of kept the dream alive to get you where it is now. It's for sure. It's difficult at times, I mean, especially when, you know, you're so in love with the sport, you know, like you said, you mentioned your daughters in love with basketball and all her friends are playing basketball and that's all she wants to do. And it was the same situation for me in hockey, you know, growing up in Toronto, Toronto, Toronto being such a hockey crazy town, you know, that's all I wanted to do is play

hockey, you know, our parents put us in a lot of sports growing up, but it was always hockey. Hockey was the one that always stood out that always, you know, was on the back of your mind. And when you step away from the game that you love, especially, you know, since playing at such a young age, it's difficult. But at the same time, I think it gives you a little bit of time to reflect and do other things, you know, while while you're enjoying your youth, if you want to say, you know, maybe that's play a different sport. Maybe that's hang out with your friends a little bit more, obviously, with the schedule and not being able to do certain things that maybe your friends are doing that aren't playing

the same sport as you. It kind of opens you up a little bit to experience and new things. But then when that opportunity does come back and presents itself to get back into hockey or to basketball or whatever sport that you are playing, I think, you know, you're not losing the love or the passion for the game. So you can step back into that situation. And it's just maybe taking advantage of that opportunity and seizing the moment. If you so, and obviously, I was very fortunate enough in that situation to be able to get back into the game I love.

Right. Like I'm sure you saw it in Toronto. I'm sure so many of your friends were like burnt out. I saw, you know, my oldest is in baseball. You see it happen to these kids that are doing travel all year or whatever. And you're known as an energy guide, nonstop energy. Like, I think you probably had the opposite of it, right? Like, whatever the opposite of burnout is, you probably came out house of fire then.

Oh, for sure. I mean, when you're sitting there, like I used to go watch my friends play hockey at the rink when I wasn't even playing. I would still go because you want to be there. You want to be involved. But then when you do get back, it's just like, oh, my goodness, like you have this abundance of the gender energy. And you're so happy to be back playing that sport. So it's one of those things where it is different. difficult, but I think when you're able to grasp that, you know, it's not going to be gone forever.

And if that opportunity does come, you need to, you know, keep your foot on the gas and, and seize that moment, I guess, if you want to say. Yeah, I love that. Was there a point where you felt, or at what point did you feel established as, like, as an, as an elite player? Because your, your route, your route there was so different. Like, was it, was it when you were at, was it when you were at Providence? Like when, when were you, did you feel comfortable enough to say like, all right, I'm here, this is, this is my level. I'm not out of place. Was it early? Was it late? Like, when did that happen for you? Yeah, you know, I think in junior, I had a great year before I was able to commit to Providence before going to college. And I was able to go to the Vancouver Development Camp. My brother was playing for the Cadoc at the time. And there was a connection there. So I was fortunate enough to get an invite to the Vancouver's development camp. And, you know, I was very, I wasn't a huge individual then either. But I think you get that moment and it's just like, you know, you're here for a reason, take advantage of it, you know, push the pedal here and let's see where it takes you.

And then when you go to college, you're accustomed to a different routine and schedule. And now you've got classes, now you've got early lifts, now you've got practices. You're playing against guys that are a lot older than you. and I think you need to adapt quickly to be successful. But I think when you're put in to a good program, a good situation, I think things happen for a reason. And I was fortunate enough to go to a great school to receive a great education, but also to be part of a great program that we had a lot of success in Providence with. How did I love, you know, we're American, we're biased probably towards the college system here. I love when Canadians go to U.S. colleges.

How did you end up in Providence? I was originally committed to Union College and then the head coach at the time was Nate Lehman. And he was switching over to Providence. So then kind of, you know, didn't feel right maybe about going there, obviously with the guy who recruited me. So we kind of took a step back. And there's a, I want to say there's a showcase tournament in the Boston area called the Chowder Cup. And I went down there with a team from Providence and Nate in his assistance and his assistance around. other, um, were there. So I was fortunate enough to, to play a couple good games and continue the

connection with, with them and, um, went and took a visit at Providence and, you know, I fell in love with the campus, you know, very small school in a small state, Rhode Island. And, um, they weren't the greatest team at the time, but they were going to be doing some renovations to the rink, which would attract some, some more players. And I think, you know, it was one of those fits where I felt right at home. It was a family like fit. And my parents, and, I, I were making the decision together and that's the route we wanted to go. That's great. Did you, we'll go back to like the, I mean, whatever, when you were, when you were 19, did you, like, how, how long were you going to wait on the gross bird, basically? Like, did you, did you have tall

people on either side of the family? Like, was there a point where you're like, all right, this is it, this isn't, this isn't happening? I'm, I'm not, I'm not going to make it to, you know, six feet or whatever. Or was it a thing where it was like, no, okay, this is, this is, this is just the, the way it works and it's probably, it's probably going to happen at some point. Like, did you just give up on that? I mean, there's obviously some frustrating nights over those years,

but, I mean, we don't have a very tall family. My grandfather on my mom's side was probably the tallest. But my brother experienced the same thing as I did. He kind of grew a foot going into his grade 12 years. So when you see him doing that,

you know, you're thinking that. It's like, if he's going through it, it's probably going to happen to me because we're brothers and you just kind of hold for the best. And obviously I'm not as tall as Chris, but that growth spurt did come and brought me back into the game that I love.

So you mentioned Chris. I love, you know, it's pretty obvious if you just watch. And I think you've said this before, Brandon. So but like he kind of blades the trail for you, right? Like he was like, here's what you need to do. And it's like from playing and, you know, each path. Like how important was that to have. somebody so close to you, kind of set that example.

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, to see him go through it all and our parents always preach education, education is more important than athletics. And if you're able to have the opportunity to receive an education while playing athletics, it's a bonus. So Chris went to RIT and, you know, my father and I and my little brother would try to go to as many games as we could. It's just across the border in Rochester from Toronto.

So it wasn't too far of a drive. and you know you get put in that atmosphere that college rink where you have the band the student section and you're thinking like no this is this is exactly what I want to do I want to be in this situation I want to experience college hockey at its finest and you know obviously receive a great education

at the same time but like you guys mentioned you know Chris definitely paved away from me I saw him go through the junior route then go to college and have a great year in college and nobody expected him to sign in the NHL and two years later he's playing in the Stanley Cup final in game seven. So it's one of those stories where, you know, you almost don't believe it. But at the same time, it gives you light at the end of the tunnel because he's able to do it, you know, why can't I or why can't anyone else do it?

I mean, Chris is, you know, he's a, he's a model for here. He was a model for so many guys with the way, with the way it came up. Like for people who didn't grow up in the same household as him, right? Like you guys like you're you're you're right there. You had the you had the front you're the front row view. Yeah. So I mean if with him and doing it all, it kind of put that drive and, you know, extra motivation to me because he's doing it. So it's like, you know, wow, he's doing it.

I'm going to push myself and I'm going to do the exact same thing that he's going to do because that's exactly what I want to do. Yeah, I love that. It's funny. Like our little like the dirty secret in the hockey media space on the college free agent guy. is always like we're going to make a big deal out of it in this window of time and kind of suspecting it's never going to pan out for all you know like this this person is the hot free agent this year or whatever and you like it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's take that opportunity and run with it because it doesn't it doesn't happen that way brandon i mean you know like those people get those deals or whatever and then we may never hear from them again it's it's um i was fortunate to to have a lot of um you know great teammates and and and you know coaching in Providence and that, you know, taught us the right way to play the game, you know, and you work hard and you understand what you need to do. And, you know, we won a national championship. And in the following year, we were probably better, you know, if not in a better

decision, too, to win another national championship and things didn't go the way we wanted to. But, you know, as you get older and you understand and you mature, I think you, it helps you along the way, you know, being away from home, going to university in a different country, you know, somewhere we're not familiar with meeting new teammates, being new friends, living with other people, all those things account for certain things in your experiences along the way. So without those experiences, I don't think maybe I'd be in the same situation as I am now because they do shape and transform you to the person you are. What'd you study at Providence?

I was marketing and finance. Is that anything you think you'll get into at some point? Yeah, I wouldn't mind to get into it. I mean, obviously, education was, was huge for our family. So it's nice to have that as well. You know, you want to finish your degree and make your parents proud, you know, that they sent you away and to go experience and receive this first class education. Oh, so you finished up.

You got the piece of paper? I did, yes. That piece of paper is with my parents. But that was very important to me to get that done. That's awesome. You know, like flash forward to, you know, however many years later, that's a big win for you guys last night. We so, we, so, I watched it, I watched a chunk of it against, against the Bruins.

Is that, when, when you're coming into a game against a team, you know, that's, that had the, that's had the first half that they've had, is that, is the, is the, is the, vibe in the locker room any different? Like, when you know that you're like, okay, this team is on streak X? They've got this many points. Like, do you, is the, is the, Roach any different when you're going up against a team on a role like that? I don't think so.

I think, you know, we understand that they're a great hockey team and they're having a phenomenal year and they're, you know, breaking records at home. You know, they're playing some great hockey at home. So I think the challenge for us was to go in there and be at our best. And I think we wanted to go in there and play our brand of hockey and give them a tough a game and I think that's what we did. We played a full 60 minutes. Martin Jones played incredible for us. You know, we had some great specialty teams on the night and just every guy in the locker room understood that if we're going to be able to come in here and beat a team that's streaking and

playing well, especially at home, we need to be playing out our best. I think that's what we did last night. It's great. I live through in Atlanta, an expansion team coming in and being really bad for a long time. And whatever honeymoon period you have in kind of a non-traditional city, it goes away after a while. So I think it's like, is that buzz still there in Seattle? Like, especially since you guys have shown, hey, this team, this team's going to compete. We're for real. Do you feel that, that kind of expansion feel vibe? I mean, a little bit.

But I think like, for us, I mean, our fans are building, you know, to me it's, it's one of the best, if not the best building to play. And I think every guy on our team will say the same thing. You know, every night our fans are going above and beyond. And it's one of those buildings where you just, you get so much added emotion and energy and juice from the crowd. And the people of Seattle, they've been doing an incredible job. And I think even last year when we came into the city and we went to a Seahawks game as a group together, we felt that emotion, how passionate everyone in Seattle is about their sports. So we wanted to come back this year and be a great team because we knew that, you know, the people, the fans all wanted this.

And I think that would be beneficial for us, too, when we're playing at home. It's such a, it's such a great, it really is a great sports town, whether it's the MLS team or they support the Seattle storm, like, pretty strongly. I mean, there's, there's some diehards there. Is that something you've, is it a vibe you feel when you're out and about, like in the city? Because you're, and I'm sure you're out there, you're out there living it and you're out, whatever, go, go and go and go and go and go and go and. and wherever you're going. Is it something you feel in public, too? Not just at the arena,

but just the general vibe in the town? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you walk around town and, you know, you see the cracking gear, you see the Seahawks gear, you see the Sounders gear, you see the Storm gear, like, you know,

the Mariners gear. I think Seattle in itself is an awesome sports town. I mean, the Mariners had a phenomenal year. The Seahawks are in the playoffs. You know, with Gino Smith doing some incredible things. I mean, it's one of those greats. He's been awesome. You know, Sue Bird, you know, with the with the storm, it's one of those things where it's like there's so many great teams in in Seattle.

I think we all want the best for each other. That's great. Well, Brandon, I know you got an Italy reservation waiting for you. So thanks for doing this. No, I appreciate your guys time. And thank you so much. All right. Take care.

Take care, guys. Sean, how talented do you have to be to take, I don't know, four years off of a sport and then become a professional at it? I love that story. It helps if you grow a foot in the meantime. I'll say that. I could grow a thousand feet. Well, that was,

that's all that was stopping me from achieving my pro athlete dreams. Yes, that's right. A foot. You throw 12 inches on me. Whatever. Could, could have done.

Hey, it'd be taller than me then at that point. You listen up. When we get back, the only, the only good segment in sports, whatever it is, we're taking your questions. And I can't wait.

Assuming there are some, because as you know, we never looked ahead of time. We will be right back. This is the only good segment on the show. Delving back into the comments, bro. Hey, how do you leave a comment, Sean? You click on the Atlanticamp. You click on the listen button. You tap on something.

Tap on something else. Uh-huh. maybe scroll for a little bit. Yeah. And then tap on something else. Well, people seem to manage. Who's a what's it? A what you might call it.

A doo-hickie. Use them all to make your way to the comment section. All right. Craig, you have one you like more than the others this week. Oh, good. I get to start. Morgan D. What's happening in Morgan?

Welcome back. Clearly, Pavealski is not, like this one. is not coming on the show because he read Sean's god-awful Federer Post. Ha ha ha. That's it. Morgan, this is still a little bit, I think it's too soon to me making these kinds of jokes about Sean. He's still a little upset about this. Where are we on the NHL 99?

I saw we ran Paul Coffee today. Yeah, we're getting to the point where you can, you have to start thinking about sharing Chris Pronger's list. Getting that ready. Yeah, you know, and I should. I might just do that today, actually, and get that, get that done. Yes, we know. Because Joe Pavlovsky, as we know, is a huge, everybody hated the Fedorov post.

Everybody hates me. What if? Especially Joe's got to be some reason for it. I just, I think, I think Pavalsky just doesn't like you, personally. That's possible. I mean, honestly, who knows? You've wronged him.

Maybe they're just busy. Because they're playing hockey. Classic loser response. Yeah. Maybe she's just busy. I'm sure she's got a lot of things going on. I've got friends in Canada that will come on the show. Oh, I get it.

Thanks. It has a little bit of an A to C on that, but okay. Is that how it was in Pittsburgh? Because I'm in Detroit where everyone, like the people always had a girlfriend in Canada, the people that never had girlfriends in school, because Canada was right across the river. It happens for a lot of people, you know, I've heard. Is that how it was? All right.

No, you want to read. You can read. I don't want to hijack the comment section. Whatever. Can we roll tape on Sean's pronunciation of the word during? It sounds like he's saying during. Do we need an auditory style guy? This is from Megan M.

I know exactly what she's talking about because, first off, that is certainly an accent thing. That's for sure, like a Pittsburgh, like Southwestern PA accent mark kind of bleeding through, which I do have a fair amount of. During. Doring. But I said it last week, this is no joke,

I said it during the Luke Hughes episode. And I knew like as soon as it left my mouth that I just like hammered it, right? Like that it was like, because I've taken some amount of, in college probably, I took like efforts to like drop some of the nastier like Yinser. affectations. I don't know

from my speech. I mean, I know about my heart A's. What are you talking about? I get that all the time. Kesee. Kesee is going to come with us to the Winter Classic. You know what people from Pittsburgh sound like you spent enough time here. I don't know if I've I wouldn't have guessed you say during. It's just a weird. It's definitely a weird thing. It's an under, it's an under explored element of the of the Pittsburgh accent

for sure. That's like, It's all just, it's guttural. There's a lot of gutteral sounds and a lot of like drawn out. You know, where it's like, oh, I'm, uh, all right. I'm going to drive down by the river. I'm going to go, I'm going to go to Monagahela and I'm going to cross a bridge. And, uh, and then we'll be on, on the south side. We'll cross over again.

This is, it's all, it's all about directions. Oh, it's like the Californians? It's directions Take the 405 Yeah Yeah It's like the Californians Except all the directions

Are for things that aren't there anymore So it's like Go So it's like Oh yeah You remember You're going over to Swissville Right

You go past old St. Anselm's It's where they had that It's where they had that gym That looked like an army hanger But it ain't there anymore I can just talk like this all the time If you want now

What are you doing here, Devin? Duh Gought off the 405 The 405 Talk What a year Light on Las Sienega Oh my gosh

That's actually one of my favorites It's very funny It's really good All right So that's a very valid question by Megan M It's completely true too And I know the moment that I said it And I was like oh shit

That was bad Michael Kay left a few comments The usual Michigan, Michigan State stuff I'll spare Oh, the one thing I wanted to ask you, Sean Do you guys in Pittsburgh tack on Make everything plural like we like to do here So like the store of Meyer is Myers

Fords Bravo's It's an Italian That's the one I always think of It's an Italian restaurant A chain Italian restaurant Brogers Best Bys

Giant Eagles Best Bys You have to. Yeah. The other really funny thing, but this is the one that blows people minds, blows people's minds when you hear it in the wild, because it still doesn't sound weird to me at all is like dropping infinitive. So it's like instead of my car needs to be washed or my room needs to be cleaned or whatever,

like I would like to say like my car needs washed does not sound strange to me at all. My car needs washed. My clothes needs, my clothes need cleaned. That's, that just... Does that sound insane? Does it? I'm not going to... Like, that doesn't sound strange in all.

I'm not going to judge a dialect, but it sounds like you're, you just learn to speak English, let's say. I put it, I put in headlines and in, right, it's made its way into writing and stuff. Like, I have to actively... You put it into a headline? Yes. So you... Pay attention to what goes up on the site there, boss man. Michael Kay's request is for Jake Walman and his gritty self.

celebration. Anti-gritty. Hey, Jake Walman. Played out. I saw, yeah, that's probably a good, that's probably a good, good take. Leave it, leave it for Justin Jefferson. Jake Walman's really good.

I was at the Red Wings Leaves game the other night. Yeah, that was, man, shit, you saw like the, that was the Jake Wallman explosion game. Yeah, wasn't it? Max, this guy's been, is he always as good? He's like, yeah. Yeah, he's been really good. Yeah, any other questions?

Yeah. Thanks for showing up. How about you watch a game? Time time, the guy. Yeah, so he was giving me the breakdown. The old blues to Red Wings Pipeline, we could talk about Jake Walman. You guys can. You and Max can.

Do I want to do a show with Max? Sure. Yeah, that would mean that I can't do a show and you can, what's the odds of happening, of that happening or slim. Chris Jay, since you've had John Hamm on the show, does that open the gate for more actors or celebrities? I hope so.

I mean, if there's a reason to talk to these folks, then yeah, absolutely. We just had another one. Jason Priestley was a guest on the, is going to be a guest on the roundtable, the Wednesday round table. It's going to drop tomorrow. Jason Priestley, 90210,

fame. Brandon Wollichette. Craig, were you a 90210 guy? I feel like you probably were. OC for life. Interesting. I mean, different areas, I think. I think Nino-2-1-0 preceded O-C for sure. Oh, yeah, of course it did.

I mean, I know. The O-C was out when I was in, I was in high school. N0-2-10-0 was, I feel like when you were probably in college, right? That's what N-O-2-1 was on. Peter Gallagher is going to be our guest next week. A lot of people, producer Jeff doesn't know this, but we're looking to get Peter Gallagher on. Peter Gallagher.

But listen to the Roundtable episode tomorrow and watch the Jason Priestley Harold Ballard leaves documentary because it seems like it's awesome It's wheelhouse stuff But to answer Bruce's question I will say Mac and Dews thoughts on that one

Because I'm sure he has some If you're a celebrity and you're listening You may we will allow you on I mean John Hamm broke the ice for celebs The other thing I would say I think we have a request into Jeff Tweedy True So who

Huge hockey fan Or maybe not Went to a Black Hawks game We've at least know that for sure We have evidence of him wearing a black Hux jersey Maybe he has thoughts on The trade

Famously famous Chicago guy Definitely definitely a Chicago guy Um One time I was covering a blackhawks game If you're celebrity and you like hockey And you like it at all Come on down Reach out

I was covering a Black Hawk's game Staying at whatever Marriott is right across from that theater Where the Wilco plays every year and they were playing. So it was just like shining in the lights. I was like looking at my window. So sad.

Like Wilco was playing at this, at their hometown theater. And I was covering. I was covering Blackhawks. I was, uh, did you have to work. I wasn't going to concerts when the,

when people sent me on the, unlike you, I'm not blown through company money on the road. Don't even say that. Do you like to do, as we know. Yeah, it's me.

Should I read Brian? I'm wasting travel money. Brian F. So listen, as we mentioned last week, around the winter classic discussion, my wife who was very pregnant, we walked back from, what is it, South Side to the Marriott through Duques. Brian writes, as a proud DeCame alum, I'm appalled that Sean and Craig forced Craig's, thank you for including Sean in this. Brian F. the way, Brian F. Central Catholic alumni. I don't know what CC was.

Is it Central? Craig Customs. In Michigan, CC is Catholic Central. I know. I have a friend who went there. I know. It's very weird. My friend went to Catholic Central and then coached at Central Catholic.

Can you believe it? Isn't that crazy? Wow. I'll cut to the chase on this long message from Brian. Making your pregnant wife. make that track is unconscionable. I mean, I don't know. Is she was past the first trimester?

Yeah, that's what she was. He thinks my penance should be actually called Greg, which Bobby Holy may have done. I don't think he did. Yeah. But, look, Greg or Craig, I'll answer to either. People get, you know what I get called more than Greg or have in the past? Chris.

It's weird. Chris Costs. People were like, hey, Chris. I'm like, what? Chris is Chris is definitely funnier than Greg to me Chris Yeah I mean she had a walk across the Birmingham Bridge

Which at that point didn't have pedestrian lanes or bike lanes Very unsafe We cut across that football field Like it was like we were like running plays In the decaying football field Yeah At the uh it Rooney Field named after the team the film that owns the Steelers

I uh I also want to say that I had nothing I wasn't I had we had parted ways by that point in the evening. I was, I think it was your idea. You're like, I'm like, hey, let's get a cab. And Sean was like, it's not as bad as it looks. Those, those steps, I'll never forget. It's very dangerous. No one thought about me in this scenario. I was tired. Yeah. You made, you made Cassie help you up the stairs. Cassie, carry, carry my bag. Carry my backpack, please, is what you did. Not my proudest moment, I guess.

Colin, we talked about the NHL coaching hot seat last week. So he doesn't hate hot seat articles because the two of us were just like, oh, this is terrible. We hate hot seat articles, like blah, blah, which is true, by the way. But Colin has a point. Every failed coach in this league is paid through their contract, correct? Correct. Most of the time.

And always finds another job right away, looking at you and like, yo, if they want one. Might be callous, but reading articles about who she's, should be paid millions to sit at home doesn't make me feel too empathetic for coaches who are bad at their job. I, it's stressful to be, to be talked about in that way, I would imagine, regardless of the money you make. And then you have, when it crosses over into just abject humiliation like it has in the case of Bruce Boudreau and all that, I think, might be a sucker. Here's the thing. Colin, you're right. Like, these are public figures paid millions. Like that that goes with the deal.

And as fans, I think that's appropriate for that to be your response. But let's use Bruce Boudreau. I've spent time with his family. Like I've sat down on events and you're like, he, you know, he's having dinner at the table next to you. And he says, come on over. Here's my son. And, oh, hey, these people are great. And you're like, so it's, you know, Bruce can handle it.

But then you're like, oh, God, person's wife has to read this. And look, and that's, you still write the stories because it's the part of the job. It's our job to be critical and critical. And Sean still wrote it. I don't know if you're thinking that as you're writing those stories, but it's, you just feel kind of gross because you're like, oh, we're talking about somebody's livelihood. That's it. At a certain point, it's like getting publicly embarrassed and clowned is, we've got to be kind of painful regardless of how much, of how much money you're making. Right.

And it's like, they'll be fine. You know, Bruce's, the checks are still clearing, right, as he has to muddle through all this stuff. But it's okay. I mean, yeah, I, everybody, nobody's wrong here. Like, it's fine for fans and not give a shit. And I think it's fine for people who have to churn out content based around this sort of thing to be like, don't feel great about that. Do you want to, uh, you want to read Ted C's? Sean Gentilly.

Yeah. Can I, is Gentile Nation a thing? Or is he starting as a hashtag? Just, okay. Ted, Ted C wants to make it happen. So I love to make Ted C happy. He has to come out and admit, Ted says, like producer Jeff, he's a Canadian. And he happens to live in Kingston, Ontario, which is the cigarette capital of Ontario.

Proudly. Congratulations. It's the Raleigh of the Raleigh Durham of. of the Great White North. I'm planning to start to go fund me to buy advertising space from the New York Times

again, company we work for under the condition that Sean breaks out the Santa voice or possibly a dentist to young voice. Again, Rich Liddon Casey I may not got shit on Sean's and telly just so I can hear him say.

After hard day of reading all the slag comments from people telling me how they would do my job differently than I did, nothing calls my nerves like breaking into a pack as smooth kinks in 1000s.

Forget Sergei Fedorov and take a trip to flavor country. It's true. Might start smoking again because of the Federoff thing. For the record, Sean didn't want to read this, but I will. Ted C. loved the article, the Federoff article. I'm okay, by the way. This is a bit.

I don't give a shit. I'm not upset anymore. He does. Listen, if you all want to pay enough money, you too can advertise on this. And we will read anything in any voice. Obviously. That is our promise to you, listener. Think of all the things I've done ads for already.

The most humiliating products any person can endorse. I don't want to name any names specifically. Craig Cousins Goodreads watch. Craig, you have 14 friends on Goodreads. Yes. Hey, guys, double figures. Let's do this. Did you seriously only read seven books in 2022?

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. That's the big takeaway from what Kennell H said. Or did you... Listen, we're at 14 friends. If you're a dork like me and you like to read, let's be friends in Goodreads. We got to get that to 20 by next week. Also, um, no, answer the question. How many books did you read in 2022?

I think I said 75 this year. I read more than seven. I just didn't enter them in Goodreads. Also, the other thing is I'll read a book and then I'll just go into Goodreads and I'll search for it and I'll say I've read it. And it doesn't credit the right year. It just adds it to my stack of things I've read. And I'm not going to take the time to enter dates.

Folks. So I can hit my goal. It doesn't sound like a Goodreads power user if you ask me. I read more than seven books, Kendall. I read seven books in your life, probably. I read seven books this morning. Your mom read seven books this morning. She did.

She's a racist reader. She's a teacher. Oh, baby, baby, baby. That's it. Isn't it? I mean, it can be. How many Pulitzer's have I won? Slurms, come on.

One lesson, Sean. Hey, this episode might, let's not count this episode out as a Pulitzer nomination. I used to make jokes like that. Then I learned. Never know. Duty may call someday. Are you going to bring that on contract negotiations? No.

Okay. You're welcome. Just a reminder, Jason, Priestley joins the roundtable where he's going to talk about the Harold Baller's story with Rob Pizzo, Mike Russo, and Jesse Granger. Jesse Granger, we didn't even get into the Robin Leonard stuff. We want to talk at some point. I hated to see that headline this week about bankruptcy or the debts he's owing.

But yeah, we'll discuss that at some point. Also, don't forget to subscribe to the athletic hockey show on YouTube. That's at YouTube.com. forward slash 11% or something at sign the athletic hockey show you can't see me right now

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we're gonna look like proper podcast hosts I will Sean's gonna have a blurry screen with drawers and whatever What are you talking about? I might change my positioning here. You get a light?

We'll see. You getting a ring light, Sean? The light's fine. The backdrop is the issue. We'll discuss this at some point later. What is that photo with the person stepping on a step behind you? It's a concert poster. It's for the national.

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