The Athletic Hockey Show - Gerard Gallant's war of words with Carolina Hurricanes, Bryan Rust extended in Pittsburgh and St. Louis moves forward without Jordan Binnington vs Colorado Avalanche

Episode Date: May 23, 2022

Craig and Sean celebrate Victoria Day with a special edition of the Tuesday boyzzz TAHS on a Monday!The guys discuss the antics of Max Domi in the dying seconds in game three between the Rangers and Hurricanes, and Gerard Gallant's harsh words directed towards the Canes post game. Bryan Rust signs a 5 year extension with Pittsburgh and we ask, what does that mean for Evgeni Malkin and Kris Letang moving forward with the Penguins? The guys also take a look at what of the six vacant NHL coaching positions, from Vegas, to Chicago, Dallas, Winnipeg, Detroit and Philadelphia is most appealing for coaches looking for work next season.Jeremy Rutherford joins the boys to breakdown the first three games of the St. Louis Blues, Colorado Avalanche series, the collision between Nazem Kadri and Jordan Binnington, Ville Husso stepping back in between the pipes and the Selke Trophy performance from Ryan O'Reilly as he continues to shutdown Nathan MacKinnon. Plus we stick tap JR for his recently renovated 'hockey basement' in the suburbs of St. Louis ahead of another edition of the Tuesday boyzzz comment section. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey, hey Sean Yeah, Craig. Do you know what today is? It's Monday, maybe. Well, it's Monday, which we don't record on Mondays, nor do we publish on Mondays, which we are. It's Monday, May 23rd for all of you, Calder fans. Wait a second.

If I'm been tricked, nobody told me today's Monday, we're the Tuesday boys. With three Zs, happy Victoria Day, Sean. Be honest, did you know that this was a holiday like two weeks ago? I did not, until producer Jeff said, hey, can you fill in for the Monday Canadians, Ian and company? Because it's Victoria Day. Then we started good. I was reading the Wikipedia today.

Learned a lot about it. Is that a war thing? No. Victoria, it's, she was a queen. Apparently. And, uh, I. I don't know a lot about it, to be honest. Is she the one, is she the one on the money, or is that a different queen?

She's the one that plays, she's playing hockey, I think, on a pond on the tunis. Is it a dollar or, well, I don't know. I just hope, I just hope Ian and whoever else is having a, having a wonderful time this afternoon. Yes. So happy to all those who celebrate. You know, you know, Craig, doing all those Victoria Day, Trent. all those Victoria Day traditions that we know and love so much. Well, I mean, so here's what it is.

My research I learned, A, this is when you can switch to your summer clothes in Canada. So you can retire, put the tooth away. Yeah. Get out the white pants. You can get up the white pants. And open up the cottage, baby. You hear that, Pierre, wherever you are? 1-1-2-2.

1-1-2-2. Boogie Wogie Avenue. That's the other thing about Pierre, too, is he never stops wearing summer clothes. Pierce Cottage is open year-round, and he's always got white pants on. I saw him on, I saw him like, when was that? When were we in Toronto? I was like, it was December. Linen shirt and white shorts the entire time refused to wear a jacket.

Crazy. You also can safely plant your garden. That's what this is, they say, you know, you're probably not going to get frost. So as a Michigan resident, I can feel that. So that's, this is your Victoria Day infomercial. We have a great show as the fill-ins for the Monday show. This, we will stay, we are going to stay American here. We've got Jeremy Rutherford coming in in segment number two to talk about what's been a wild series, blues in Colorado.

It's been pretty entertaining. But first, Sean, there's a couple things I want to talk to you about here before we get to J.R. in playoff talk in that series. I want to give it some of the coach openings because I think it's become a pretty fascinating list. But at the end of the Rangers Carolina game, Max Domi gets a whack on Ryan Lingren. We got a little bit of controversy.

Jared Galat, who typically doesn't say a ton in his media availability, was pretty upset. He says, and his quote was, I wasn't happy with the bullshit at the end. end of the game that they initiated. We didn't do that when the games were closed. They put their guys out. That's fine.

If they want to play like that, we've got the guys that can match them. Yeah. I think he said something else. We have the guy that can end it, right? Yeah. Don't me took a cheap shot at our defenseman. You've got a long memory in this

to think about things. It might be on the other foot someday. You never know. Yeah, who is he talking about? Because it clearly wasn't Ryan Reeves. He must have been talking about somebody else. Wow. Because Ryan Reeves was on the ice when that happened.

And it still happened? The nuclear deterrent was not there. It didn't stop Max Domi from doing anything, really. And of course, and of course it didn't because we've, we've watched Max Domi for long enough. Now, I don't, I don't think he's going to, he's going to be, you know, if he, if he, wants to pull some ratty shit he's not going to be stopped by Ryan Reeves

necessarily but but Reeves is on the ice that was the funniest thing was seeing it you know yes the official stopped him from you know getting maybe whatever piece he was looking for there but the idea that

you know hey we got this guy so he's he's gonna stop you from from doing anything like I don't know about that he was he was 20 feet away from Max Domey whenever it happened.

Well, it adds, so yeah, so here's what he says exactly. The game is over. This is Gerard Glott. They're not sending any message. We've got the guy that can handle all their guys if we want to. We didn't do it like that. Oh, congratulations. You know what's going to happen?

And this is why it might be some like elite troll move from Max Domi is that it's going to con gallant into playing Ryan Reeves for like 16 minutes next game. It's like he's gonna. Yeah, he's like, he's like, I'm,

he's like, I know exactly what I'm doing here. Evil genius Max Domi is that he's going to completely throw, throw the lines out of whack because, because now, now Galan's going to want to get Reeves that much more time. I don't know. It's, it's very funny. Like, and I typically don't think this stuff matters and, you know,

it's just popcorn at the end of the game. And I feel that. I do generally feel that about this. I don't think this is going to have any appreciable impact on the next game unless Glant does go out and, you know, play Reeves for however many shifts. And if Reeves starts a line brawl and a bunch of people get, you know, get game misconducts, then I'll stand corrected. But I don't think this is going to necessarily lead anything.

It's just very funny watching folks act. Like, he is still, whether it's re-is, whether it's, you know, whoever in the league, you know, who's like that and still left, they're just not, it doesn't matter. Their presence on their roster is not going to stop anything. I thought that was something we agreed on at least a couple years ago. Nope. No, we haven't. I guess not agreed on that. Brian Rust.

I wanted to get this before we get the J.R. Brian Russ signs a deal with the Pittsburgh Penguins that I think we, I think we. we assume Brian Russ was going to hit free agency because the penguins have to do deals with of Gennie Malkin and Chris LaTang. Do they? Do they? Presumably. Well, they don't, I wouldn't say they have to.

But instead, we get a six-year deal worth $5.125 million annually for Brian Russ. I would say a pretty reasonable deal for a guy that's essentially become a point per game player. he's 30 years old so you're getting the downside etc all the caveats around a free agent signing but not like you know pretty reasonable deal for brian rust what do we think this means to letang and walkin if anything boy it's tough to imagine both i'm coming back i like there is definitely a point maybe last summer where i felt like rust was going to be the guy who would have been the first to have gone. Yeah.

If any of those three. And now he's the first to, he's the first assigned. Letang is the one that I'm just, I'm just, it's, it's just so hard for me to imagine him coming back because he's going to be able to make still so much money on

the free agent market. Like, I think, I think Chris, is it impossible for Chris Latang to make seven and a half million dollars or $8 million a year? Even, even though,

even though he's 35, he's got to pay. I agree. He's a workout freak. He wants another big deal because, you know, he's been underpaid relative to his peers for the last however many years. I mean, he's got that appetite for it, I think. And if he wants to go out and sign for five years and $7. Dot, dot, dot, million dollars a year, I think that I think that contract's going to be there for him. And I think the discount he would be taking, you know, if that is the neighborhood, where the Penguins and Fenway Sports Group wants if Gennie Malkin and Chris Lattang to live in terms of AIV. That is farther off for Chris Lattang than of Gany Malkin at this point. And it's really tough to see how it happens. Can I, can you think of any 35-year-old defense?

I know. I was just trying, I was just as you were saying and I'm like, okay, what's a comp here where somebody was getting high-end money at 35? I'm not sure in the, I don't want to say cap era, but I don't know that in the last, I don't know that there's an apples to apples comparison in the last 10 years. Yeah. You know, is it Scott Niedermeyer? I don't know, but like.

That means you're going back if that's where you're starting. That's right. And it gets completely whacked out too because, because if it happened in the cap era, It's not going to, the raw number is not going to be the same. So in terms of percentages, right. Like, I don't, I don't know. Guys like him don't typically reach free agency. Yeah.

That's part of it. And if they, and if they do reach free agency, it's not when they're still, you know, on the periphery of the Norris discussion. Like, I don't think, I don't think Chris Latang is going to finish fifth in voting or anything, but I would say he'd probably be. top 10. I think there were a lot of people who were like, yeah, who were looking, who were looking at their top five on their ballot and were like, I had him at eight or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And guys like that don't, guys like that don't hit the market

that often. Whether they're 35 or not. I guess the best comparable, I'm trying to, you're right, I don't know if there's one that jumps in mind. And Brett Burns signed his deal. He was 31 years old and signed an eight-year deal worth $8 million per season. So that takes them to whatever it is, $39, let's say, when that deals up. This was, so that would be the equivalent at $35 of signing a four-year deal. I mean, this is not fair at all because you're paying for the early part of that contract. But like you were signing Brent Burns into his 40s or close to 40. You're saying we're going to give this guy this amount of money when he's 39 or whatever.

Yeah, like a premium amount of money. Brent Burns, by the way, I think people for, like, for as great as his career has been and for as much of a workout freak as he is and all that. Great story by Corey Mazasek about that. Yeah, that was a good story. They ran recently. Major, major concussion issues. Like, he has, he has health red flags going back early in his career, right?

So there's some buyer, there's buyer beware there. just like there'd be buyer beware on LaTang by virtue of being 35 and also having some stuff on his on his resume. So I don't know, man. If I'm at team that has some money to spend, I can certainly think of worse ways of doing it

than paying seven in a quarter million dollars for Chris LaTang for the next five seasons. I'd love to do it for three seasons, but I don't think Chris is doing that, right? That's it. This is his last big deal. Yeah. That's what, that's, that's, that's what happens when you got guys, when you got guys chasing the last big deal on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the first day of agency, whatever that is. The turn, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the highest, the holiest, queen holidays.

in the monarch. There are one, two, three, four, one, two, three, six head coach openings in the NHL right now. And I was, we haven't, I mean, we talked about Barry Trots a little bit and kind of where he's going to end up. These are actually some really good jobs.

Like this isn't like, these are jobs where you're joining a franchise that's going to spend in a lot of these cases. You're joining one of them is a Stanley Cup potential contender if they can get together. Some original six. Like,

like this is... Wow, dude, you really like the Winnipeg Jets. I think of all of these jobs. Like, we thought maybe Barry Trots would go to

Winnipeg. I don't know if it seems like maybe that would have happened by not if it was happening. That's the worst of the openings. So I wanted your opinion on this. So as we sit now, you have the flyers,

the Red Wings, the jets, the stars, the Blackhawks, and the Vegas Golden Nights. Yeah. Sean, You are the hottest commodity in coaching right now.

Yes, I am. Thanks. Thanks. I am great. You're sitting on a five-year contract offer from all of these franchises. Yeah. Because everybody wants you, Sean Gentile, to coach their team, of course. Which of those teams are you choosing?

Like, where do you say I, this is the best scenario for me to have success over the next five years? Is the dollar figure the same? Like, is the contract identical? It's five times seven. That's how valuable you are. It's still Vegas. I would love to not pick Vegas. I think it is still Vegas.

I think you just look at the amount of talent that they have on that roster. And if you're a coach, maybe has some experience with ego management, let's say, or just has a knack for making personalities fit. I don't know how you look at that roster and don't think, like, yeah, okay. From a sheer raw material standpoint, this is, it's better,

it's better than anything else. And that's even, despite paying Alex Petrangelo, $20 million until he's 55 years old or whatever, whatever that contract is, I still think, I still think I like that job more than the rest of them. You're dealing with,

in your five-year window here, you've got, you're joining, you know, Mark Stone's 30, Patchretti's 33, Petral Angeles 32. Mark Stone's 30. They've gone,

they've, whatever, just fired another coach, did, did Glant Dirty, all that stuff. Bill Foley, maybe, you know. Yeah, there's red flags for me. He's a wild card. I agree with you. I agree. But I think from a talent standpoint, that's still, that still wins out.

I think Dallas is probably a pretty narrow second for me at this point. Really? I don't think that would have been the case before the playoffs, before you saw Jake Gottinger on that stage. But I did. Did you? coach that guy. Yeah. Yeah, I would coach that guy.

Here's what I'm thinking if I'm you in this scenario. I'm not thinking about year one. I'm thinking about years two and three. Yeah, that's true. So I'm like, hey, okay, I've got honeymoon in year one. I want the best young talent. And so I'm looking at the other jobs. I'm looking at maybe Chicago or Detroit.

Philly. I'm not sure what Philly's doing. Well, Chicago. I don't know, maybe because I'm here. Like, poor Jeff Blaschell had to, you know, he got the terrible years there. You say, thanks. Thanks for. Thanks for doing that.

Taking one for the team, Blash. Thank you. Presumably, you maybe have one more or two more bad years. And then you've got a team that's just been loading up with young talent for the last five years, run by a GM and Steve Viserman, who we, you know, built a powerhouse in Tampa. It's clearly okay. pretty smart, owned by a ownership group that historically has spent once it's appropriate to spend. So, I mean, I think that's a sneaky, really good job. For sure. And also, Winnipeg where, like, if you get that job, you could have it for 10 years. 15 years, if you want it,

right? The wings are, the wings are interesting for me. I think. think I would maybe still rather be the guy who gets hired after the next guy. Oh, you want the Red Wings jab in three years. Yeah. Right. Exactly. This is the guy after the guy. I think the Jeff Lashel post, Jeff Lashel.

So that was, so he, Blaschold coach for long enough to bridge the gap. Like, they don't, there's no. Yeah. He put in the worst possible years. There's no Michelle Tarian, like, bridge coach in between this, between them being a bottom feeder and an actual contender. I don't think so. But yeah, fine.

You know what? You know what? Forget Vegas. I hate, I hate Vegas. I'm just saying, I feel like that could, I think if you don't want a cup in the first two years, you're maybe out of a job. Mm-hmm. The other thing is, I'll tell you, I'll tell you what, I don't need, I don't need Philly and I don't need Chicago. Chicago is, Chicago is a mess.

They don't, the rebuild hasn't actually started yet. Like they're just, they're at such a ridiculous point in their life cycle that I would just want nothing to do with that. Yeah. And there's no, there's no clear cut plan out of it, right? Like, they, Detroit's already gone through the pain of clearing all the brush and burning off all the bad contracts. And like, that's mission accomplished there. Now it's, now it's making sure you draft the right players and they still need another. centered like this is a but yeah Vegas is Vegas is the ego choice I think Detroit is like the

is like when you sit down and really think about it you know maybe that's it it makes sense that I said Vegas and you said and you said Detroit because you have the ego and yeah and you're and you're you're so humble just ask Craig how humble he is so humble I'm going Detroit Vegas is probably two because, all right, I'll take a run at a cup in the next two years. I don't have to wait. Like, they're not far off. And you get to coach and live in Vegas.

That's pretty good. Yeah. Three is stars. I'm with you on that. You have Hayeskin and you've got, you have, good, you have Robertson to go with the goalie. Just, just $19 million for Jamie Bennett and Tyler's here. That's okay. I mean, moving on.

Moving on. Yeah. I don't. And then maybe Philly next. You're taking it Philly over Winnipeg? I am. you have a problem with Winnipeg? No.

Say it. No, I don't. I love it. Say it. Love it. Say that you hate Winnipeg. Bring up the Brissgala of points or parks, parks discussion. Do it.

No, Philly would be fun. You got money. Great fan base. I love Philly. I love Philly. So, all right. Let's,

we'll just, I think Jeremy is here. He's been hanging out for too long. I'm not going to make Jeremy wait. So let's take a quick break and dive into what's been an incredible series. And catch up with JR, who is the best. The best. And kind of like an honorary Kachuk.

We've got to get into the Kachuk stuff because he knows that family better than anybody. So perfect. We'll be back. We are now joined from maybe the best basement I've ever seen. Oh my God. I don't even mean that like, like Jeremy Ruff. Guy, folks, folks. Craig's seen a lot of basements.

Let me tell you. Oh, my gosh. Can I let me let's talk. Let's rank them. All right. So number two, if there's one, number two would be. Basement freak. Jeremy is sitting.

He's got, he's got a replica arena. I mean, Jeremy, why don't you take us through before we get into the series? You know what this is? Craig and everybody, this is a pandemic basement. So basically this was unfinished concrete, you know, all that type of stuff. and during the pandemic, I just looked around and said, we got to put a hockey rink down here. Of course. As one does.

I don't know that this happens without the quarantine and being here 24-7 for months and months. But anyway, yeah, so we decided we were going to put some synthetic ice down. So that's what you see in the background. Wait a second. There's synthetic ice, too. I thought it was just the boards. Holy cow. Okay.

Yeah. So my kids can skate on that with their blades. And then we put the boards up and H&H did a lot of the work. So I put their sticker up on the deck. there. And then, of course, when you're big and fat like me, you've got to have Dunkin' Donuts up against the wall. But then, you know, above the wall, it was just gray paint. And I said, no, we got to have some fans watching the game. So I found a place here in St. Louis fast signs that could put the sticker up of the fan. So that's actually the crowd from the watch party

at Enterprise Center, Game 7, 2019. I was in Boston covering for the athletic. And that's the fans here back in St. Louis. Amazing. And then you got a stall right there, a dressing room stall. If you're ever feeling like, boy, I miss sitting in front and waiting for a player to come out and address the media. You can just sit there and stare at it. I just stand there for hours and wait for the player to come out. When you imagine the player, like who is the fake player that's coming out of the time?

I'm trying to think. You know who used to always take forever? I was going to say, who made you wait the longest? That's what I'd like to know. Yep. Well, you know, one guy would be there. forever. Ian Cole, you guys are familiar with him, but he would sit at his stall for like an hour and a half in my practice. Yeah. Yeah, you know who you know really love that was Mike Sullivan.

Yeah. He loved whatever, whatever, even, whatever, would sit down and talk to talk to us for however long. I'm convinced that Ian Cole was, like, run out of Pittsburgh because he appeared in the newspaper too many times. Like, yeah, I'm 40% convinced that plate of factor. Like, I remember, like, that got, like, people We're like, oh, yeah, Sally doesn't like that Ian's, that's quoted so often. I'm like, wait, he's, he's like, great. Come on. You're only, you're only at 40% on that. I think you should bump that up significantly higher.

He was, he, he, he, Sullivan benched him for no reason. He didn't play for like, for like 20 games before you. Whatever. I can just see Mike Sullivan get the morning clips and just being like highlighting. Talking to, talking to yoie again. Flipping through highlight another Egan Cole quote. How did we get sidetrack? So what a series, JR you're on.

We were talking about Cadre and Bennington before. Like when all that's happening, if you could just take us into the moment where it's like you and Peter are trying to report out what's become a national level story. Yeah, you know, we've all been doing this for a long time, 20 plus years. And to me, still what draws me to the job is that when you show up for work, you have no idea what's going to happen. You have no idea. And so here we are covering a hockey game the other night. And there's a collision with Cadry and Jordan Bennington. And obviously, everybody's upset on social media.

So now it's our job to go downstairs and ask the questions and find out what we can find out and get back up to the computers. And so Peter Bowie covers the avalanche for the athletic. I'm not familiar with him, but I think he sounds like an up-and-coming kid. Don't know a lot about it. He's really good. Yeah, I read his stuff. So we go our separate ways. And I head into the Blues locker room.

And I said to Craig Brewby, what did you think of the collision? And he said, well, you guys know how to do you guys. his reputation. That's all I have to say. I'm like, okay, there's your money quote, right? You know what he says. So we're going back upstairs and then Peter's text to me and he says, hey, Bennington just threw a water bottle at Cadre. I got it confirmed from two or three people. You know, like you're kidding me. Like we're really talking about a professional athlete throwing a water bottle at another athlete. So all of a sudden, Tarak, our colleague in Washington, he's covering for TNT here. He's got a picture of the water bottle. You can't kind of dream this

stuff up. So then I kind of go back off into a corridor and I'm calling sources trying to find out what's the injury with Bennington and you find out he's going to miss multiple weeks with a knee sprain and just what a, you know, so much already in this series between, you know, the blues trying to shut down McKinnon and the big guys, McCar, and, you know, the series kind of going back and forth and now you add this element to it and, you know, just a joy to sit down at the laptop and try to piece it all together. I think the look at Cadre's reputation quote is a bit, I'm not going to say a cop-out, but it's saying something without saying anything kind of to me. I don't know. Yeah, no, I hear you. But I mean, and listen, it's tough in

today's day and age with social media when you cover a team because everybody thinks that you're a homer if you say this or you're trying to go down. I'm not saying you're not my. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I hear what you're saying. But I mean, when you look at the track record, and I know Peter, that up-and-coming writer that we know about, wrote a story about Kod's. and that, look, he can dispel that. He's had a great season this year, and he doesn't have to be about his past, but then you have an incident like we had a couple nights ago, and just about any NHL player you talk to says that, you know,

a guy in Cadry skates there knows what he's doing. So, you know, is he that player? Is he that reputation, or has he changed it? You know, I think it's fair for Craig Ruby to question him. And I don't think it, in, in Codry's case, too, I mean, he's not going in there thinking, thinking, hey, I'm going to sprain Jordan Bittington's knee and he's going to miss or whatever it is and he's going to miss however many games. I mean, he can just be thinking I'm going to,

I'm going to create, I'm going to create chaos in the crease here. Like, there doesn't need to be malicious intent, you know, injurious kind of intent for there to be intent. Like, it can be, it could have been like lower level. Like, yeah, let's, let's, uh, let's stir some shit up in the, in the net here and see what happens without, you know, graduating to that level. Like, yeah, hopefully I heard it. Like I don't think anybody is saying that that's, you know, the level that, the level of like recklessness that the cadre was acting with. Yeah, I don't think there's a, you know, intent to injure, but I think there is a,

okay, I'm going to go in there and cause chaos like you said, Sean. And you know what? If it happens, it happens, you know? So be it. So maybe not an intent, but if it happens. I just, I want to point out, I mean, Sunday, Akimaloo tweeted that Kadri had received, you know, racist attacks and threats in the avalanche are now, they issued a statement saying they're aware of the threats and working with local law enforcement.

Like that's, that that is, like that we can't just have a good old fashion like hockey playoff series, Bruhaha without that is, I'm not trying to like rain on the parade, but I do want to acknowledge that that's also happening and that's the worst, dealing with that in the middle of all of this. It's still the first thing. It's still the first thing that the worst people oners go. go for when it comes time to talk about this they look at like at nasm cadre and he's and he's Muslim and that's that like that's still the first and that's still the first thing that the dummies

that the dummies go for when they're mad about this stuff of course yeah and you know with the wide-ranging element of social media you know those threats could be coming from anywhere but my first thought to be honest with you guys was st louis like come on you know like if that's the situation and this is the matchup so it's st louis and that are doing this as a lifelong St. Louis. And it just kind of hit me. Like, come on. Like, you can absolutely positively be 100% better than us.

Hey, let's have fun with the series, but this goes way too far. Of course. It's, it's ridiculous. And so like that's, so even just in this moment, you sit there and say, boy, I want to talk about cadre and his reputation, but you also were like, I don't want to fan the flames of like these idiots that are, I don't know. You know what I mean? I'm just tired of all that.

That's part of the calculus. this happened, okay, this happened two days ago, you know, do we want to throw another log on the fire as far as this is concerned? Like, I don't know. That's, that's a, it's an unpleasant, unpleasant part of having to figure out, you know, what, what we talk about and when we talk about it. But I think, I think it is still, this is not a one day story. I think when you look at the, right, right, you are like with the, with the injury to Bennington and some other kind of satellite stuff that happened there. This is not something that, you know, where the, where the effects are limited to the weekend and that's it. Yeah, no, you're right. And it's interesting that you say that,

Sean, because as writers, all of us, um, yesterday when the cursor's blinking and I'm starting my athletic story, you know, do you start with the collision again? Do you start with the play? Do you start with cadre? And, you know, you get into it, of course, but I purposely told myself, you know, start with the blues are moving on. The blues have to move on. They've got a different goal. goalie now. Here's what the coach is saying about I believe who's so being back in the crease, you know, so on and so forth. So yeah, eventually you get to it again in the story because you have to.

But I think that it's kind of our role, like you said, A, not to fan the flame, but also to advance the story and keep it moving. So, I mean, this is, you know, in terms of talking about the series and now you're down to, you know,

another goalie, you're bringing up. Who's down to the backup? That would be what Charlie Lingren coming in now? Charlie Lingering. Yeah, yeah. So, like, what do you see in terms of implications

on the series now? I'm getting moving forward. Yeah, Craig, well, here's the interesting part, and you guys know this. You know, Billy Hussaud was the guy all year. That's why he started game one against Minnesota. And so, you know,

when you listen to fans or you read kind of the comments and the athletic stories, people are like, oh, you got to go with Huso, he's the best. Jordan Bennington, you know, can't find 2019 magic anymore. Go with Billy Huso. So Billy Huso gets replaced by Jordan Bennington in game four of the Minnesota series. Goes on this great run.

He's looked spectacular. He has now found that magic and he gets hurt. And now Blues fans and, you know, the fans out here like, it's over. They don't have Bennington anymore. Billy Huso is not that good. It's just amazing. So, you know, in fact, when they said that they were calling up Charlie Lingren to be the backup.

He's kind of some cult figure here in St. Louis because he was up earlier in the season and he's got this nickname because he's got the sideburns. So they call him Chuckie Sideburns. They even did T-shirts down in the American Hockey League with the Springfield Thunderbirds. So he comes up. He's the backup. I got people tweeting at me yesterday saying

start Charlie Lindgren for tonight's games. I like that. That's what three whatever playoff games get you. Goodbye. Goodbye, Billy Huso. They've already moved on. We'll see, like, you know how the playoffs go. There's going to be a moment where we see. What is he, Chuckie Sideburns?

We'll see Chuckie Sideburns. I'm going to send you a T-shirt. Yeah, we got to, we all got to mentally prepare for the Chuckie sideburns area. I feel like, I feel like it's happening. I think like what game three sort of did was with all the, with all the cadre, Bennington stuff, it's, it's easy to forget just how good that series has been and just how good the blues specifically have been? Like that, that is a, that's a coin flip series across, across the board. And yes, and yes, Colorado won one game three. I thought that was a, that's

still the end of that game was, was, was funky. But I think people are, honestly, because of all the brouhaha, people have forgotten how how well St. Louis is playing, is playing this for. Yeah, Sean, and here's the thing. I know McCar got on the board with an assist in that last series, but, you know, some of these big guys, McKinnon, McCarr, are still looking for that first, goal after they tore up Nashville, right? And so, you know, if you would have said probably after three games going into game four that McKinnon doesn't have a goal, you know, Landisag's got a power play goal and an empty netter and, you know, McCar doesn't have anything that the Blues would be winning the

series, at least leading it at this point. I think, you know, Justin Falk, Nick Letty, Colton Perrako, that O'Reilly line with Braden Shen on it at times, David Prawn, of course, on it. They've just done a masterful job against a lot of these. He's big guys from Colorado. And, you know, when you're getting the goaltending from Jordan Bennington, I think you're giving yourself a chance. So I still think it's an even series.

I still think, you know, we go back to what we talked about a minute ago. Billy Huso was the most consistent goaltender. He came into a very tough situation the other night coming off the bench after that collision. You know, I expect him to be a lot, probably more of the Billy Huso that we remember from the regular season when he starts tonight. Like, I don't know how you factor this in, but like the blues on some level are playing with House Money versus the avalanche where all the pressure is on them to win the series. It's all the stuff we talked about going to the playoffs and they have to get out of the second

round. Whereas the Blues, like, they can just play the game. They know how to play and they know how to win in the playoffs. And I don't know. The longer this goes on and the closer the series gets and the more you can keep that offense at bay, I don't know. That swings in St. Louis's favor. You're right, Craig. And I looked at it the exact same way that you did. They are playing with House money because, look, I mean, what was our prediction at the athletic? 98% in favor of the avalanche to win that series. But two things. I think this series from the Blues standpoint is winnable,

especially if you're, you know, shutting down those top guys and you're getting the goal tending. And secondly, even though the Blues have a Stanley Cup just a few years ago, you guys were just talking about LaTang and possibly paying him $7 million to age 38, 39. The Blues, after the Stanley Cup, gave a lot of term out Doug Armstrong did. So you look at, you know, Justin Falk and Torrey Krug, Braden Shen, Jordan Bennington, a lot of these guys are going to be making $6, $7 million until their 35, 36 year. So these contracts are going to look a little different on the back end, of course,

and they need to win now. So if you're in a series with Colorado and you've got a lot of guys who are aging and going to have some perhaps ugly deals in a couple of years, you know, it is important, imperative, I think, to win now. And especially when you look at the series and think, okay, it is house money. but it is winnable. After St. Louis won, what was a game two, there's a Denver Post-Markees-Liver column

basically going after Jared Bednar. Talk about the pressure Colorado's under. With the headline reads, Avalanche needs coach Jared Bednar to be more than a Ken doll on the team bench. When going gets tough in the NHL playoffs. So pressure's on, Jared Bednar. Yeah, and did you guys see the Bednar quote,

I think a couple days ago? He said, we're playing the St. Louis blues. not playing the second round. See? You know, wow. Yeah, you're playing this. You're also, you're also playing the second round too. Yeah, exactly.

Second rounds, dude, pretty well. Gotta say. Man, what a, what a, what a series that Ryan O'Reilly's having, by the way. I'm just going through some of his numbers against, against McKinnon. That's, that's it. Like, that to me, you know, if, if you can count consistently on O'Reilly playing McKinnon even and or erasing him, they're going to, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, series is going to stay extremely interesting.

Yeah, Sean, and not only is O'Reilly doing an unbelievable job of, you know, shutting down, blanketing, however you want to look at it, McKinnon, but he has a goal in seven of nine playoff games this year for the Blues, and he has a point in eight of nine. So he's getting it done offensively, too, in addition to that Selke-style defense. Oh, my gosh. All right. So, J.R., before we let you go, we did, as we all know, you're an honorary member of the Kachuk family and people in Canada are really upset that Brady Kachuk has is cheering on his brother

and really upset. I was just seeing a lot of angry people. This is fake. This is fake news from you. Nobody's upset. Nobody's upset. It was like a couple of people going, should we be upset? And everybody going, no, this is great?

It's amazing. Is anybody upset? And everyone's saying, no, nobody's upset. It turns into how, how could everybody be so mad about it? this. There's no there's no torches and pitchforks coming for Brady Kachukh. No. But how great is it to see, you know that family so well, JR, just to see on this stage that, I don't know, just the pure joy and support of each other in the public spectacle. I just love that. Yeah, it's amazing, guys. Sometimes the highlights will come on my TV here and, you know, they'll be showing who won and the big

plays of the game. And I'm not paying attention. But then all of a sudden, I'll see Brady in the stands in Calgary and I got to stop everything I'm doing and watch to see, you know, what kind of beer they drink and what kind of hat is his dad wearing, you know, what's going on? It's kind of become a story. I love it. You look, I have three other brothers and I support them and, you know, I think that's maybe an exaggeration. I don't remember of their family, but I've been around them a lot, right? And it's, it's been fun to watch that love for each other, that interaction when you're sitting in their living room and they're chirping each other, you know, just left and right. And to, to hear the barbs in person, you know, within the family walls is pretty entertaining. And so I support it.

I do understand that, you know, maybe from a fan perspective in Ottawa, it looks a little weird to see in the future. It doesn't. Nobody in Ottawa cares. I don't know who cares. But I will say this. I think we tried to get a story going on the situation. I was the ring. Yeah. I was, I was involved. Yeah. Yeah. And so I got a text back that said, uh, my dad, thank you. that this is becoming a distraction, so we better not. So I think that they kind of want to not make this as big of a deal as it's the common. And then he signed an endorsement deal with Budweiser the next day. Come on.

Come on. We're going to keep a low profile. But first, let me announce the three-year deal with Budweiser Canada. Right. I got to ask you guys this question in closing. When was the last time you had beer in two pockets of your jeans? We all, who among us, thousand feathers? I will say, I actually have an answer to this.

What is it? It was this weekend. Without even, like, now that I, he's bringing in back. So my parents live a few days, a few doors down from us. And my wife and I were sitting on our deck enjoying one of the first nice days of the year in Michigan. And we were out of beer. So I had to walk down to my parents. Like I was 16 years old sneaking into the refrigerator in the garage, hopefully not waking them

up and stuffing beer in my pocket and walking back to my deck so my wife might have. Yeah. So I felt the Brady Kachuk and me was in full force recently. Yeah, but this, it doesn't surprise me at all because like when the last time I was over there, I was doing a story on Taryn Kichuk, their sister. And they were going to her high school senior state championship game for field hockey. It was Terrans. And Matthew and Brady were sitting on the couch.

they're telling me how they were starting the Bloody Mary's head on 7 o'clock in the morning. And they said that, and someone else was driving, obviously, but they said that by the time they pulled into the parking lot, the park for the state championship, like they had their heads out of the Jeep. Woo-hoo! You know, they're just some very watery bloody Mary's pulling into a lot. So there's some very watery Bloody Mary's. There's not a lot of tomato juice that's making it.

It's making it those. If you know what I mean, pretty pretty clear set of beverages. Oh, my God. So they have a good time. But yeah. So to answer your question, yeah, it's probably been at least a couple days since I've had two years in my park. That's good. That's good.

Self control is an important thing. Well, Jeremy, great work on the series as always, you know, guide that young pup, Peter Baugh. Make sure he's in his hat. In his hat. Is he walking out in the rink with his park ranger hat on? I have not seen it. I was hoping to see it. I don't know if he's got that thing in hiding right now, which he should.

I don't know what your guys' thoughts on. He's back. He's back home. He's a St. Louis boy, like, covering a St. Louis series. I mean. He's all talk. He's not, he's not going to wear that around the home. I asked him, I said, are you wearing the hat?

He's like, you know what? It started to become a distraction to the team and the coverage. So I decided to, I was going to lay low. And then he signed, and then the next day he signed an endorsement deal with Pan Amad Jack. Oh, J.R. Great work as always, man. Great to see you. Basement looks awesome.

Give the best of your fan. You guys too. Thanks, thanks for having me. This is the only good segment on the show. So we go to the comment section. Wade through your wonderful insight and jokes and complaints about us. Wade through it makes it sound like it's not an enjoyable.

You're like, I'm going to slog through that. Yeah. I like peruse it like I'm at the library. Yeah, that's true. These are the good comments. I weighed through the comments on, say, a daily post about power rankings, maybe a little mini take about, about Nazim Kodry. Yeah, I weighed, I weighed through those. Which episode is, are we going on?

It was, what's the title of the Jake Gottinger one? Okay, I just want to join you as you read these comments. I wanted to say, because we're coming out of that segment with JR when we talked about pocket beers and all that, I do want to say, as we are in the thick of wedding season now, it's the feel like the first normal, the first normal wedding season, quasi-normal wedding season post-20, remember out there, single folks,

going to the bar at the open bar at the wedding, the move always, always, is to get a drink and a glass of wine. Nobody will question you. you get like say your Canadian club or your whatever your liquor drink and you also grab a glass of white wine and you bring it back to your you bring it back to your table because it always looks like you're grabbing it for somebody else and you're saying that's for yourself that's for yourself do you have a wedding drink go to wedding drink yeah I usually go I usually go with whatever the best brown liquor available is at the at the at the open bar And of course, a nice glass of chardonnay. I alternate between the two. Gosh, I'll get you going. So I think I'm stuck on vodka tonics because that's what I would drink when you try to sneak one in when you're like the cousin, the young cousin.

Totally. And I just never made a switch when I became of legalized. That's really funny. You're like, you're like the 19 year old cousin who doesn't, he's like, oh, vodka tonic. People drink that. That's a grown up. That's a grown-up drink, right? It doesn't taste like Sprite.

I mean, I have a vodka tonic. Can I have a gin and gin? My father-in-law drinks, his wedding drink is, is it a giblet? Oh, Gimlet. Gimlet. Yeah, those are, those are, oh, those are tasty. He makes people make, he makes bartenders make Gimlet. I love that.

And he's, yeah, I was, that always stuck with me. Like, he doesn't, I've never seen him drink it ever in my life. And then we go to a wedding and he's like, I'll take a gilin. and lit. I'm like, you will? Yeah, my dad, my dad does that. I can count on my hands how many times I ever see my dad drink liquor. And I can count, I mean, my dad, my dad, my dad loves it. That's it, it's not because he's a teetotaler. My dad just loves beer and wine. Like, he's just, he's just not a, not a liquor guy. But it is funny, you know, see him at a wedding. I'll have, like, Grand Marnier or something like that. That's like, that's like his move. It's very funny. All right, to the comments.

It's Adam P says we keep debating his best move, but hypothetically, if he could go to, he could go to any team, which one would be the worst possible landing spot for very trots. Oh, the worst. All right. Now we're asking, now we're getting somewhere, Adam. Other than the islanders. The worst may be the, I mean, the, I mean, where we target them is Winnipeg. If you're going on our conversation earlier, like the job. you'd want the lease is maybe Winnipeg just because.

Yeah, but he's got the... Yeah, but he's got the... No, maybe for him personally, it'll be okay. Yeah. I also will say this. We always do this with players, and maybe we're just making the same mistake with coaches. Like, hey, Stephen Stamcoast is from Toronto. Like, I don't know.

Just because Barry Trots is from Winnipeg. There's been a lot of guys. There's been a lot of guys... Jeff, you go in a cup in Vegas. Well, Tavares was like the first. there's all those guys over the years from Toronto who would at least the biggest of the big fish

like we did it with Stamcoast and then we did it a year later right with Tavares and it finally clicked but there's a reason that doesn't happen Brian Rust could have come on home to Michigan you could have the Red Wings would like a nice veteran It happened with him it was like everybody was like

I saw people anytime there'd be projections over where he'd end up it'd be like Malkin to Florida, Latang to Montreal, and Rust to Detroit, because that's all where those guys either live or are from.

I would say, if we remove Winnipeg because maybe it works for him personally or whatever. I think it's maybe Chicago for some of the reasons you mentioned. I just don't see a, they seem to be a no man's land.

I don't see a way out. You're dealing with all the baggage. I think they see, I think they see the way out, but it's a matter of actually executing it. Like, Do you think? What's the way out?

Trading everybody. Everybody. You just traded for Sef Jones. Yeah. Well, the other guy did. Not me. Couldn't be me. What's the G?

I just, you didn't hear something? Forgot the GM's name. Kyle Davidson? Kyle Davidson. I was about to say Brayn and Davidson. And I knew that wasn't. I knew that wasn't right.

I think, I think, I love, I mean, seems like a, seems like a smart guy. I think he, I think he realizes what, what they got to do. But it's going to be unpleasant. Yeah, that's a, that's, yeah. But you also get to coach in Chicago. Like, Chicago's my favorite city. It's the greatest. That, like, that's how, that's how, that's part of the factor for me.

That's how screwed that situation needs to be is that I'm, is that I'm, I'm actively choosing. against working and living and making millions of dollars in Chicago. That's how bad the Blackhawk situation is. Adam, we were talking in our style segment of writing, our AP style moment. In last episode, we were talking about how five on five should be written. He says it should be five dash B period dash V. I might mix that one in just to make life worse for, for, if you did that. For Monica and the other.

Yeah, the copy desk wouldn't know what to do with that. Michael Kay just says just go 5V5, like all jam together. VV. VV. A bitch of Dom probably does that. I like, I honestly do like, I like five. Michael Kay has been a smart ass and saying VVV, but I'm saying like 5V, but I'm saying like 5 V5. Yeah, no, that's what I think he's, I don't think he's being smart.

I think he's just saying that's what I would do. I don't know. It's, um, Connor R writes, I've crossed the bridge, paid the troll. Toll, good. Answered the These questions three. You gotta pay the troll toll to get in. If the Blues beat Colorado, which I don't expect to happen, I don't know anymore, by the way.

This. Will Sean and Craig sing an out of sync and out of tune Zoom rendition of the St. Louis Blues or when the Saints go marching in? Probably not. Yeah. You guys don't know how hard I had. to drag Craig through that. He did not want to do it. The anthem?

You didn't want any part of it. It was my idea. The timing of that anthem, it wasn't until I heard it after. No, no, no. It was some sort of weird delay. That was your fault. It sounded like, it sounded like, it sounded like shit when it was happening. It was because you were behind.

Okay. I was only behind because I was trying to sing along with you because there was a delay on your feed coming into my computer. And I'm like, why is Sean sing? No, it sounded fine to you and terrible to me as we recorded it. This is, this is, this is your fault. It's not, the internet's my fault. The internet's, the internet's somebody's fault.

We should just say, if we had any guts at all, we would sing elimination songs for every team, but we don't. So we won't. No, we won't do that. That would be terrible. It's like guts. Courage. Madden. Oh, you read one.

How am I stealing all this? I mean, go for it. Tuesday, boys, 5Zs, as we know is the athletic style guide. I like that we have athletic style guide reference. Back in style quarter. Oh, my gosh. Back in the style quarter. What are your thoughts on the Stanley Cup being referred to as the hardest trophy to win in sports?

Personally, I think that phrase is nonsense. It's not like some years the NHL just doesn't give out the trophy because no one was good enough. Can any trophy actually be the hardest to win if someone will win regardless? So wait, Matt, in order? Your logic is flawed on this, by the way, Matt. In order for a trophy to be hard to win, occasionally it has to not be awarded. I'm trying to think of one where that happens. Nobody was good enough.

So there's no, like, that's your, if that's your cutoff for something to be a hard trophy, that doesn't exist. Right. Like, did they give, did they give people? trophies for landing on the moon or something? I don't. So if it's like a trophy you receive for an accomplishment, and I guarantee we're forgetting something here and we're going to,

and we're going to look like we're going to look like idiots. Where there's just like nobody, nobody qualified this year. Like maybe like a Hall of Fame voting or something where they just don't put anybody in one year. I don't know. Is a Hall of Fame bust? Is a Hall of Fame bust? But like, I don't know.

Five people get inducted to the NFL. Yeah, and even if it were, five guys get one every, every year. And here's what I would say, Matt. I do, like, I've covered a lot of different sports. I'm not like a hockey or die person that's like, and I do believe it's the toughest because it is such a grind. And having been on the road in the entire playoff series, having been with teams the whole way, having watched with these players go through and the injuries they play through and what

you have to do to survive. Well, how you have to play to win? like we're watching it play out in real time where Tampa is just teaching teams how you have to play to win in the playoffs. I was there when St. Louis discovered how to win when they beat the Blackhawks in the playoffs. There's such a long process. So you have to go through those years of learning and then you have to go through the grind of putting it all together one year. It's not just one year. Matt S. Is it Matt S?

Yeah. Matt S. It's not just one year to win that cup. It's the years of heartbreak and all the stuff Toronto's going through. and Colorado's going through or has gone through Pittsburgh all these teams So I do

Again, I do believe it It's a toughest trophy in sports I don't know Maybe there's a Premier League or something It's the World Cup Oh, all right Isn't it? You got to qualify

There's Group There's whatever You can play Eight games or whatever I think it's possible. I think, I think it's possible. Well, yeah, right. I wouldn't, yes,

I definitely didn't just Google hardest trophy to win in sports and realize that that is the one that we forgot. You also got a trophy, you also get a trophy the triple crown, which I did not know. Does that count? Oh, yes. Yeah. I stayed corrected. My big speech on hockey, I take it all back. You know what? It's the triple crown.

Horses have it tougher, bro. Horses and soccer players. They got it tougher than hockey players. Because maybe that's his, they don't award it. Like you don't, you have to win all three. So on some level, not winning one is the equivalent of not being awarded. Mattess was right along. Like that is the, that is the thing that we invented and said didn't exist. God, we got it there.

It's the triple crown. Yeah. So anytime someone says the Stanley Cup is the toughest, just be like, no, it's not. It's the triple crown. It's the toughest trophy to win for humans. probably right just wanted to point out says john oh that d lombardi was the one who made the milan luteitch contract disappear from the boston cap not the oilers yeah we i do i think we knew that did did we didn't know i think so i think we i think we both kind of forgot about the milan luchich

la marins martin's okay wow If we did, it was just a... I'm saying, I'm saying me personally, I forgot in the moment in that conversation that Milan L.A. Kings, absolutely. Okay. I'm sure a lot of other people did as well. Ted C., I tend to listen to the show on Wednesday morning. So usually it makes sound, it makes Craig sound like a wise Oracle when talking about games

that happened the night prior. Also, I caught an unintentional Ramon's reference when Craig said, quote, we're a happy family regarding Team Sean, which is, which is, which is, is. That's pretty great. It was it? Was it? Yeah, was it?

Actually, I meant to. Was it unintentional? We're a happy family. Should we sing that song? I think that's the NFT we need. A Tuesday Boys tribute to Twilight. That's very, that is very funny.

Anthony Ems says, Cursed, saved the show from going down the shitter, which is absolutely correct. True. That's true of every guest has ever appeared on the show. Like the secret's out. If you just listen to the show, segment two is the most informative.

Like, this is where we're bringing people that know what they're talking about. It's so much better. Try not to talk over them. We're better at that now. I will say this. We're intentionally bringing in athletic writers during the playoffs because we do want to be in the moment a little bit on the podcast. More than usual, we like to be a little bit of Evergreen and have players.

I've really enjoyed the insight, you know, from Kersey and JR. Oh, man, absolutely. Talking to players is fun and you get stuff like some, you know, the Tage Thompson's, like I just think back to the last couple we did. It's all good and it's different. But I have enjoyed tapping into the knowledge and these people that are just on the ground and immersed in the playoffs. Yeah, that's the playoffs, man. We need people who know more about these series than we do. Jen F thanked us for all the stars talk.

You're welcome. Got it, Jen. As a fan of a team in a non-traditional market and in a market dominated by football at all levels, hearing you talk about our boys and especially the effusive praise of our boys. Jake is so appreciated. Sean, I hope you'll keep your eyes on Dallas next season. Give a Stars fan some breadcrumbs. I think I, I think I will.

I love that team. I think they're number one on your coach list for Sean Gentilely coach free agent. I mean, Sean Shapiro told me something about them recently, which is like, is that they're, I mean, and of course this is true, but it's a good thing to remember. They are trying to make the playoffs every single year, no matter what. You know you have a, yeah, you know you have a, yeah, you know you have a, an ownership group and a GM that are all in every year, no matter, no matter what that means. I think that counts for a lot. And I think that's the kind of thing that if you're a coach with,

you know, I don't want to say an ego, but a coach who believes in your work and believes in your ability to manage personalities or, or, you know, make moves tactically or whatever your thing is as a coach, I think whenever you know that you have an ownership group that's going to spend, that's a big, that's a big, that's a big, hurdle. Now the cap situation isn't great and, you know, maybe the middle of the lineup isn't either, but that means, that means a lot to me personally. I don't know about you. Maybe, maybe you don't care. Maybe you're just seeing it for the money, you know? Yeah, five years times seven, I'll go anywhere. Also, recommendation from GenF is, uh, if you're using frosted mini weights to use chocolate

milk instead of, instead of normal milk, which is what's your wild? That's treat. That's treat boy stuff from, so listen, Jen. Can I, Jen, Jen, I'm only talking to Jen here. I come from a family of teachers. I'm the only person in my family, and I'm sure I mentioned this before,

extended family. I'm talking aunts and uncles and cousins. Everybody's a teacher. And I've learned through the years how many parents are giving their kids sugar cereals, and if you're pouring chocolate milk, that's taking them to a whole leg level,

and sending those kids off to school. And these poor teachers are the ones that have to deal with that. See you later. So I'm sure Jen was talking for her own enjoyment. She would go frosted many weeks with chocolate milk. But if anybody's listening to this and gets terrible ideas to allow that of their children, I speak on behalf of all the teachers in our fine country, maybe pass. Well, whatever.

And then she came back with another hockey question. She mentioned Lambert and McIndoo on the. on Puck Soup talking about Malkin and Latang leaving Pittsburgh. That's kind of in our podcast family treat. It is. Yeah, they're on the, they're on the, they're on the app. Jedd F says, and I think this is interesting, what are your thoughts on John Klingberg to Pittsburgh?

Huh. As the Latang replacement. Think about it. He's going to be cheaper. He's going to be on some. Is he? I think probably. Okay.

Do you think he's getting? a, do you think he's getting a, do you think John Klingberg in 2022 is getting a five year, seven and change million dollar deal? Maybe. Yeah. I just, because he's younger. The last couple, the last couple years have been tough for him. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,

as a, as a, as a Latang replacement, right-handed, a couple years younger. Let me ask you this. Mm-hmm. Would it would be better for the penguins? a cheaper a cheaper a cheaper a cheaper clingberg then maybe you're bringing back clingberg malcon and russ now you've got all three they're playing with they're playing with fire here Pittsburgh is like it's a lot of money for rust yeah I shouldn't say that it's it's it's it's capped for rust he's a win now player they have the Jeff Carter extension which is

kicking in next year I think you look you look at them and you're like this is interesting because because they they have a lot of cap because they don't have they don't have malcon or latang on it but that but that's going to get eaten up in a hurry I don't know I'm not I'm be watching that intently I'm not I'm still not quite sure what's going on there and I and I don't I don't think we're we're going to know that for for for a bit longer is that it you let just leave me flap in the breeze like that thanks for nothing

I got nothing else to say about that. We've already talked about the Penguins way too long. It's true. I can't help that. I like this one from Will C. Sean isn't really sick. He's in deep cover behind enemy lines, continuing his investigation into this shady Bronman fellow.

The very, the very mysterious, Corey Promin. I will neither confirm nor deny. Your debt is back. She says, as someone with a journalism degree, I really appreciate the style guy section of the pod. That makes three of us. We may... This is for five people.

It was when Sean complained about editing Craig's copy and then said constitutionally enable. Because a real chef's kiss moment, Dennis says, and she is saying this because I said, enable instead of unable. So she's turning my own shit back against me. Editing... Audio in the moment versus words that I've typed out

intentionally and filed to be printed? I don't know. It enables, enables a stupid. That's a stupid mistake to make. I think she's got me dead to write, sir. Greg,

how are you going to be spending the rest of your Victoria Day? Oh, you know, it's a tradition in my family. Every Victoria Day, we put it on our white pants. Everybody's talking about our white pants. Go out to the grill and barbecue some.

Some, Victoria's? Some, Then, of course, we unlock the cottage. As one does on Victoria Day, we go up and de-winterize it. Is that what you would do to a cottage that's been shut down for the winter? I would imagine it was summarized, but I wouldn't know because I'm not a rich person who has a cottage. I think Canadians, it's part of like the healthcare system.

I don't think they buy them. I think you're at birth, you're gifted. You get health care for life and a Canadian, a cottage in like Muscoca. Yeah. Am I saying that correctly? On 11122 Boogie Wogie Avenue, which is the address of Pierla, Plots, Cottage. You're at 112-4 Boogie Wogie Avenue, which is across the street. Sean, can you finish us up because I can't get to my Google Doc that has the rest.

I know Mike Russo has his podcast. Billy Garron is going to be on it this week. And anytime Bill Garron is on the Mike Russo podcast, it's worth listening to. Also, Bruce Boudreau, who I said, I'd like to apologize to the listener. Dear listener, I know. All right, time out. What?

You got to the, you got to your promo, your promo. No, no, no. This is all from memory. I just, uh, Bruce Boudreau.

This is, because producer Jeff while you were sleeping, Sean, this morning, producer Jeff gave me a heads up on what was coming in our podcast. It was called podcast preparation. Never heard of it. Bruce,

they had to cancel last week. He's going to be on the podcast with Vancouver pod. Again, like, Bruce Boudreau and Billy Garon are like two primetime A-plus guess. They're not Jeremy Rutherford level or Peter Ball or Kevin Cruz. It could be.

Really, who couldn't have been better. But they're pretty good. So check that out. Something, something, Apple Audio Plus. Hey, Craig. Yeah. Follow us on your favorite podcast platform and leave a rating interview. And subscribe to the Athletic Audio Plus on Apple Podcast.

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for just $1 a month or six months when you visit theathletic.com slash hockey show. Tomorrow, I actually just got a message about this from Flannery. I might be We're going to see who the host is on Tuesday We're gonna see it Breaking news folks You're gonna do the Canadian version

Of the American Tuesday show Um Ian may have Something has Uh The power is out at Ian's house I wasn't gonna say that

Because I feel like that was maybe put him on a blast But I don't give a shit The power is out at Ian's house And it has been for a couple days So he might not be able to record How does Canada get power? What powers Canada? A moose on a wheel.

It's a giant moose. Happy Victoria Day, everybody. Happy Victoria Day. Be safe.