The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - All Vampires are Queer with Harvey Guillén from What We Do in the Shadows

Episode Date: November 16, 2021

Close the sashes, draw the curtains, light some candles, and let's welcome the one, the only, Guillermo from What We Do in the Shadows, Harvey Guillén! Listen as Trixie and Katya fan-girl the f**k out in an amazing interview which covers everything from Harvey's magical audition story to the show's countless running gags to the ever-expanding set & costume design in subsequent seasons. If you've ever seen this shockingly funny show, today's episode will hit you like a migraine of joy with a side of merriment. Follow Harvey: @HarveyGuillen Follow Trixie: @TrixieMattel Follow Katya: @Katya_Zamo To listen to our podcast on YouTube: http://bit.ly/TrixieKatyaYT Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/baldandthebeautifulpodcast If you want to support the show, and get all the episodes ad-free go to https://thebaldandthebeautiful.supercast.com/ If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be helpful! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/baldandthebeautifulpodcast To check out the Trixie and Katya Live Tour, go to: https://trixieandkatya.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is a wonderful day. And we haven't even been having guests because honestly, I just don't care anymore. But fuck everybody except we have an exception in the building. We're not in the building, but his building, but via satellite. We, from my top three favorite show of all time, I would say. Top three favorite shows of all time. A very incredible superstar actor that me and Trixie are unreasonably enormous fans of.

From What We Do in the Shadows, he plays Guillermo. It's Harvey Guillen. Welcome! Welcome! Hi! Hi! I am so...

I'm going to shit and piss. I'm so glad you're not in the same room as me. I'm going to shit and piss in these little panties right now. Thank you so much for being here. I wish I was there. Thank you for having me. I wish I was there. I would enjoy all of that.

You know, I just want to warn you, Harvey, like we're going to come on strong because nobody, nobody thinks that you are a superior star of television more than we do. Yeah. We are obsessed with what we do in the shadows. And you are our favorite part of that show.

You make the show. Oh, that's really sweet. And I'm a fan of both of you. It's so funny because I keep getting friends who send me the clips of you guys talking about the show. And I was like, bitch, I already saw it. I like I watched their show. Yeah. And it's hard to like,

say that you are the favorite when it's an ensemble show where there's truly not a weak link period ever. No, not one. There's never a joke that doesn't land. There's never a costume. That's not amazing, but you just,

I can't believe in a show about vampires. You are like the, you're like the Jim Halpertpert of it it's so good yeah i'm the only human i'm the only human yeah i mean i was i'm a huge vampire fan like since i was like 10 or even earlier and i was i would assume that the the non-vampire main character would be the least interesting and you buy you fucking steal this show every goddamn episode and it's um it's just so good it's so

so good it's so good funny because Guillermo was in that he didn't talk a lot in the first season if you look back at the first season I think I talked to you about this trick like it was just like it was not scripted that he talked a lot he was there as a familiar and he was more like just almost like wallpaper really like he was there as the sidekick to nandor and would talk once in a

while because he was afraid to speak out and then it was just through facial expressions that we told a story all of season one it was just my face that was just telling the story the audience was like i see what's happening there's something there going on so it's so funny that you say that but that was i don't think that was the intention for guillermo originally but we've uh here we are when did you start taping the show what year it was 2018 we shot the pilot we shot the pilot in la and then we got picked up and we moved to toronto where i'm currently now shooting we're halfway through season four uh yesterday was thank fucking god they announced that you guys were i think picked up for two seasons like right away last year so like as i

was starting watching three i think it was announced that you were already doing like more than one more season and i just felt such comfort because on a show this weird you know i always have like freaks and geeks syndrome we're like what if something really fierce only has one season do you know what i mean like I'm always afraid of that because sometimes it's the amazing shows that fly under the radar and I just have to say like normally when we have guests on the pod I have to

like Wikipedia them and try to get myself psyched up to figure out what I'm in I didn't have to do any fucking research today so I do not have to pretend to be enthusiastic about your work obviously having like a queer person of color be like a star is great but bitch like what did you guys know like when you're shooting that pilot could you feel it like oh this is some shit yeah i think i remember

shooting the pilot and first of all i never had a chemistry with cave on which is unheard of usually have a chemistry with like your counterpart. They had cast everyone in the show already. I was the last person to get cast. They had already booked. Matt was the first one. And then it was, I think, Kayvon and Natasha and Mark. And then I was the last one.

And they were starting production in a week and they haven't found a Guillermo. Guillermo was written 20 years older than I am. So I wasn't even right for the role. And so when I went into the audition, it was a courtesy audition because I went to a wine and cheese night and I met this girl at a wine and cheese night who said, you're so fucking funny. You should audition for my fiance's new show. And I was like, okay, I'm not probably for that. But sure, why not? And then I looked into it and it was what we do in the shadows and they gave me a courtesy audition. And I went in there and I parted my hair in the middle and I got these

Harry Potter glasses, popped them out. I wore this gross like sweater vest I was like if this doesn't make me stand out I know I'm not right for the role age-wise but this will make me like pop and she'll remember me Alison Jones who I wanted to impress the cast director uh cut to an hour later after the audition they're like yeah it's unanimous you're gonna test with Kayvon and I was like that's insane and i was like so looking forward to it i never got the call to test it was martin lukin weekend and i got a call from a 16 digit number and i was like my sister she'll pick up the fucking phone and i was like oh my god and i picked up as a hey is this javi and i was like yeah hey it's jimena taika

oh hi yes i'm testing for you he's like no you're not testing we'll see you on set oh oh that like that that's like some magic story shit that never happens yeah oh that's so hollywood if i ever heard a story if you told me that story i wouldn't believe it and it was happening to me at that time and i was like this is insane i looked at my sister you're like you're like am i being scammed are they gonna ask me to send five thousand dollars yeah and the name of 20 and like 20 friends names yeah yeah which i probably would have done honestly like whole confession i would have done but then i i just remember i never the chemistry with cave on it was sunday i got the call martin de quine uh was monday tuesday i had a fitting

and wednesday i was on set we were starting to the pilot and i never had a chemistry with cave on i met him and i was like please make this work please. And I just met him and he just talked and I was like, oh my God. It was like, he's such a wonderful comedian actor, such a giving actor that I was like, this could have gone easily, you know, the other way. So after we shot the pilot, I felt something good. I felt like if this doesn't get picked up, what a shame. But if it doesn't get picked up, I'm really proud of the work. And I want that real because this is a really funny show it's like so i just felt this like crackle you know to the show that i was like man this is good this gets legs like we we have a good show here and lucky for us we got picked up i mean how many scripts do you read that you're like that you feel genuinely excited about i mean i there's a lot of

scripts that i i think the question is how many scripts do i read that i'm not excited about well yeah i mean it's now i would assume that's the majority right that how many scripts do I read that I'm not excited about? Well, yeah, I mean, I would assume that's the majority, right? That's the majority. Like you read stuff, especially like, you know, being an actor who's normally just playing character roles, you see it the same note. You know, it's like the guy next door, the nerd, the hacker, you just get the same roles over and over. And so this for Guillermo was so different that I was like, this is unique. This is different. And Guillermo didn't have a last name and I remember being on set the first couple of weeks and I asked Jermaine uh one of the creators I was like can I give him a last

name and he says oh yeah what you thinking and I was like I don't know something like de la cruz and he goes what does that mean and I was like oh it means of the cross is that okay or is that like you know and he's like no that's perfect because he knew the storyline before i did i didn't know about the vampire slayer lineage okay well even like like even before that storyline like somebody who desperately wants to be a vampire with their last name is of the cross is funny yeah it is really funny it is really funny and oh my god the uh your show has one of the most like iconic opening sequences that i'm telling you i watch it every time i never skip it i you i never yesterday i can't believe i don't skip the intro ever it's so good did you see the little

little differences in this last season where um spoiler alert if you haven't seen it but when colin something happens to colin like in the opening his pictures disappear and they're missing I noticed that. I never clocked that. By the way we watch it every time and never clock that so I'm not saying it's not effective I'm saying we're stupid also there was the episode

where Kayvon they sing the opening in Farsi. Yes yes yes yep yep I remember that right yep because it was his what it was his um he was it was they sing the opening in Farsi. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yep, yep. I remember that one. That's right. Yep, because it was his, what? It was his...

It was when he was going through a crisis and he joins the cult. Bitch. I mean, the fucking... Katya and I were ready for that storyline to go on for like... All season. All season.

Like several more episodes. It's like a highest rated episode. It's so fucking weird. Yeah, it's so weird. You're like, this going and then they spoil alert they all die she just i love that she just she just let them out of the new way that nandor's new wig is so fucking funny in that episode it's so feathered it's so 1980s yeah and cree cree summer who guest stars in that episode who if you know she's the voice of everything you've ever loved as your childhood like she was penny and inspector gadget no way she yeah cree is also uh in rugrats remember she's the best friend to angelica

oh my god suzy suzy suzy oh yeah that's her voice yeah and so she's in everything and she's amazing and also it leaves a window for her to come back because remember all her followers died. Yeah. Except for her. She's like back to the drawing board. I mean, and I'm like, and you know what I like about it too? It's like you guys season one were weird. Right.

But then it's like, as you got your audience support and maybe whoever pays the bills believes in you more, you guys have gotten more and more foolish yeah and more and more absurd and more flashy with the effects and the money and it's just so good it's like someone's just pouring gas in the tank so you guys get to be bigger and bigger freaks and also it's so crazy it's like we look at it you know just we're like i always look back at that episode with the baron where he eats pizza pie we're like a cartoon like he eats pizza pie and he vomits profusely like deflates like a balloon in the air like it's just crazy that's crazy and your action sequences are fucking fierce the last the where you and nander go at it it was like yeah so good it's like i had again no idea

that that was happening like i had if you were told me in the first week of filming that he had about one point b of anhelsing and be kicking ass and like trying to like attack nandor because it's emotion he's driven by emotion he's frustrated what is that kind of love that he has with him we don't know is it romantic it's yet to be shown but there's definitely you know sometimes you love someone so much and it could be a friendship but you're just trying to shake the nonsense out of them so like doing those sequences are like amazing like my favorite is that like we ad-lib like plancha that was all me and then we tell you everyone went crazy on the internet they're like oh my god my childhood because you know we grew up watching other you know, if you grew up watching other, you know,

WWE, like wrestling, or do you watch, you know, Lucha Libre? Yeah, sure. If you're Latinx,

you know, you start, you watch that when you're little. And those are the moves that you recreated as a child. So bringing that back to Guillermo's fight scene was like the chef's kiss for me. I know. I feel like you accidentally are living like every gay boy's dream. Who would have known that you literally would go be like Sarah Michelle Gellar?

Yeah. Like you're just Buffy now. Totally. And I love that you literally would go be like sarah michelle geller yeah like you're just buffy now totally and i love that you're like but living with vampires and like um protecting them from their own like just vulnerable stupidity i mean they're so clueless and they don't know what's going on and then you like they were so competent and so on top of it and so overworked i'd like your your character is just so great it's so like you caught that because it's like they live in their own world the vampires live in their own world only think about his lust and and feeding and that's pretty much it because after you've been alive for hundreds and hundreds of years and you've seen it all you've done it all you start like you know zoning out you're like whatever they're like ancient babies

they're like babies it reminds me of like absurdly rich people how they sort of become incompetent like money makes you sort of just a shell of like what else who cares they can't pump their own gas they can't go to a gas station and pump their own gas try to turn the TV on with a paper

weight and it's just like so good also the RuPaul cameo is so fucking funny this week oh my god can i tell you a story about that so that was uh the scene that was the last episode of the finale uh and that scene when taika says yes queen and it's like you didn't take over rupaul's drag and then it shows like rupaul at the end of his message yeah and then at the end i remember uh it's i i record all the rupaul's drag race i was was scripted and in my wild line i literally uh they said you can throw in like you know what you

want to say so i literally said something like you're gonna fall like i i record all the rupaul's drag race also you're gonna fall in love with trixie and katya and i literally said that and the i'm taking i hope that i make it and didn't make it but i said it i would have jizzed i would have you know why it didn't make it because it would have been a lie he was not gonna fall in love with us he was gonna hate us yeah i watched um who is the actor that plays dander what is his name k van k van no back i just i watched a couple of interviews with him and it is so bizarre to hear him talk in a not crazy. He's so hot. I find him so fucking attractive. Oh my God.

He's like honey to be like every woman that passes by. Like, it's just like him on it. Like he is just, and the worst part is that he's so charming and nice that it's like you almost wish someone who was like funny and like good looking be an asshole yeah but he's not he's literally the most the nicest person ever and you're just like yep like you you're a good guy like you're a nice guy and amazing funny like he's like i couldn't ask

for a better like scene partner he's like the best my god you also really lucked out with your character because i mean they do have you in drag like your your look changes a little bit but your cast members besides colin they are in drag no yeah they're yeah that's every day you know how long the first season it would take everyone to get ready because i feel bad for natasha because in the first season she would wear corsets and uh petticoats and boots like like victoria boots even though you would never see her shoesets and petticoats and boots like like victorian boots even though you would never see her shoes because the petticoats and the dresses are so long unless she was flying you wouldn't she could wear uggs you would not know the difference but the costume

designer was like putting her in like high ankle like yeah victorian shoes and she had to be in those for 16 hour days and i like my hat goes off to her but she had the toughest and she had to make up and she had to do and the first season it was her own hair they're using so yeah so they were doing a lot of stuff with her own hair and eventually they caught on like you know what's probably faster if we do way faster yeah and um for that length of hair too styling that length of hair that's crazy yeah yeah touch yeah and And it was so time consuming. So I think they figured it out. And I always say Nadja has the hardest getting ready.

Guillermo, season one, I literally put my sweater vest five minutes before we're on stage. That's what I mean. You got so lucky. Dream come true. And now with the new, with the last season of the Van Helsing with the vest and his fitted and our costume designer who's amazing. We work really close together on trying to figure out what these things are for the character. We wanted to have him more fitted, a little more

comfortable in his own skin. He showed a little more figure because usually he's frumpy, oversized sweaters. He doesn't show off anything like no arms, never see his waist. And now it's like the cut is like, you know, vest is cut to the waist. The pants are like tucked into the boot. So you're seeing a little more of this figure

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Visit continue.yorku.ca. There's also, I mean, what a gift to like, there's nothing funnier than somebody who desperately wants to be a vampire, right? That's already funny. And then he's just never getting the release of like actually that but then adding um accidentally being really good at killing vampires is so funny yeah it's so funny and also when you killed the baron like that was the funniest fucking thing i'd ever seen he went out to get roses and he came back and he was uh i'm back with the so funny and i'm so happy the baron is back now like a crispy critter oh my god doug jones and also another you know if you remember all of your childhood like favorites he was uh billy and hocus pocus remember billy with this like sewn up mouth

no way that was him he's all billy and he like cuts his mouth open and moths come out that's doug Doug Jones is the Baron and do you remember like this is like way maybe I saw reruns of this online but remember Mac the Knife like McDonald's like Crescent Moon that play the piano and the McDonald's commercials like maybe this is like 90s I like it maybe it was 80s I don't know but like I've seen it online that's him he was like the first like giant Big mac like just a moon guy oh i think i know what you're talking about yes wow what a career that was him yeah and he's the creature in shape of water remember the one ship of water oh i did know that too damn what a fucking career shit and

i mean i know we're on was it end of season three now yeah Yeah. Yeah. I know that we're just going back to, but when you think of the quality of the prosthetics in the pilot, how is that a pilot of a comedy show? I mean, and then like the, the, when the Baron comes out of that coffin, I was like, this is fucking crazy.

This is like blade or some shit. Yeah. When he just lays at hands, it's like the opening and just like the yeah you know exaggeration he was in makeup uh he's he's such a trooper he's used to it now because he's just so many like characters that are creatures and prosthetic but he was in makeup for like three and a half hours i think oh that's not bad that doesn't seem bad that's not bad i mean we we do makeup sometimes for two and a half like with costumes and everything yeah yeah yeah

yeah yeah so it, yeah, yeah. So you're right. Everyone's in drag. Yeah. But you know what, though? I feel worse for people like him because I think laying there would be worse than doing it yourself. Actually, you have something to do. So time moves forward.

Yeah. But I think laying there would be so fucking hard. Like just sitting there while people poke you. Not if it's like four in the morning, though. Oh, really? You should go to sleep. Like Silky the other day, we had an early call time for drag race she had to get up at 3 30 to do have her makeup done she was dead asleep for two hours yeah well the makeup artist just did it yeah

she had a makeup artist yeah well there you go yeah i mean you know are we the only people who don't have makeup artists at this point? I don't want one. I don't want one. Nobody can either. I don't either. Yeah. Anyways.

But you're right. It is time consuming. Like, you know, either you're doing something. Even I'm not in the makeup chair for that long, but I always like bring my sides or bring like my phone or something because you want to be doing something. Because otherwise the first, you know, it's not your first rodeo. Like the first time you do like a show and stuff. Otherwise, the first, you know, it's not your first rodeo. Like the first time you do like a show and stuff.

I remember my first show ever. And I was on a show called Miss Guided. And it was Ashley Kutcher produced it. And Judy Greer starred in it. Oh, we love her. We love Judy. We love her. And it was my first thing ever. So I got to go to the makeup chair in the head.

I was so excited. I was like watching everything. And I was like talkative. And I was just like so engaged with everything. And then like a while you're like oh yeah they don't want to hear you talk at this 5 a.m shut the fuck up bitch it's it's 5 a.m damn and you're so curious you're like oh my god someone having a great time and it was like okay close your eyes and close them out yeah oh that's too bad that's funny i think i think you set the tone right if it sounded like an uber where if you start talking they'll talk to you but if you say nothing they won't right

i've been in many situations where the uber has shushed me oh in the eyes like the opposite yeah no they'll take a fake phone call oh yeah they're too busy for you yeah yeah i'm like okay i'm right you know it's funny yeah because like i'm i'm friendly especially if they speak like russian if they speak russian then i'll try to talk to them in russian and then they'll just stop talking they would just they would just stop talking maybe because i'm gay maybe because i'm gay i don't think that's probably why i think what are you talking to them about can i ask mung diving mung diving no um wait i am not guillermo sorry harvey harvey sorry that's your name now i have a question for you so um like i feel like for in the show is so three seasons now that they're like the

the sustained tension that is like so important in carrying this kind of like um narrative weight is that guillermo has not been turned into a vampire do you think he ever will be i think that sometimes we think what our dream and ambition is and what's best for us is what we're after but sometimes the universe is like look over here bitch like look over here and i think that his goal is to be well i should say what i want for guillermo is for him to be happy yeah i think he's finding that i think he's going through a little bit of a crisis in like the end of uh season two uh three when he like confronts nandor and like we also don't know what that I think he's going through a little bit of a crisis in like the end of season three, when he like confronts Nandor and like,

we also don't know what that relationship is where like, is he sticking around? Cause he wants to be a vampire or sticking around because they need him and he wants to be needed. And does it stick around? Sometimes it's good to be wanted, you know? And I feel like I wanted to get what he wants and it might take a

second, but overall I wanted to be happy. Will it become a vampire? I a second, but overall, I want him to be happy. Will it become a vampire? I think that would be cool. I think it would be cool if it becomes a vampire. I think it would be cool, too. I think my interpretation is that Guillermo is in love with Nandor. It's a codependent, unrequited relationship.

A little toxic relationship. But it's so sweet and lovely. But I think the fuel that drives it like the yearning and not getting satisfied. Yeah. You know, all that stuff. Absolutely. I think it's we're all driven by something that we want. Right.

We're all. That's why I think people relate to Guillermo so much as we're all Guillermo's. Yeah. We've all been in a situation where we've been in a toxic relationship. We've been at a job that overlooks us for a promotion. We've been, you know, defeated about something that we thought we were going to do and it didn't work out we've all been Guillermo so the reason that we follow the human familiar story for lack of a better word is because bitch we're all here you know we're rooting for him because we root for each other and

that's what makes us human we we really do want each other to succeed and win and sometimes you do get a little bit jealous because how come it's better for them how come they're thriving what am i doing wrong and so i feel like guillermo is in that world where he's doing everything by the book but you know what sometimes you gotta stop doing things by the book and do your own fucking way that's true yeah i've never read a book in my life that's something i think the show does really well is um it's sort of like musical theater where you guys are playing it like realistically under very unrealistic circumstances. Yeah. And so it's those moments like the chosen, like when Garibald's trying to have this chosen family moment and nobody's listening to him.

Yeah. There's a little bit of heart, but then you're like, all right, this is a comedy show where nobody cares what he has to say. Yeah, it's absolutely right. And I couldn't imagine it being any other way. And that's the first time that we see the vampires genuinely having any kind of past emotion they had as a human. Because remember, those days are long gone. We're making this the reality and we're grounded in this world. Vampires haven't felt human emotions in a while.

So for them to force themselves to go back to that place and be like, wow, like doing stuff guillermo wow he likes and he knows it it's so hard for natasha not you know not to say those lines because she's trying so hard to be human she's like wow you like stuff and he knows it it's like we're all a big fan spill the tea stupid bitch yeah you know it's just like those those don't come natural. And that is really endearing to watch these vampires who are usually assholes. To have one moment of like, wow, you really are a boom clan. It's like we got the chicken piccata had glass in it. So we got the dinner con.

It just ruins the moment. And I have to say, like, it's one of those shows where moment to moment i can't decide who my favorite character is yes and then once once in a while caller robinson will come in and i'm like this bitch turns the party every single line is like a laugh out loud delivery it's so fucking funny i know he's such a good foil for the other for the energy of the other characters and it's so i would normally hate him or just be like, ugh, him again. But I agree with Trixie. Like, he is just such a great,

just an antidote to the insanity of the over-the-top energy of the other characters. Yeah, and it's good at doses, you know? Because if you were next to Colin for 24 hours nonstop, you would hate him, obviously. Sure. But since you get sprinkled and it's in doses and it's really well written and Mark does a great job with it. Like sometimes when Mark's offset, just because, you know, that's a speaking voice.

So when he'll just be talking to something, he'll like fuck with us. And I can't tell if he's literally just taking us for a ride. He'll talk about something and he will become Colin Robinson. Like he'll be talking about something like, you know, my wife and I, we went shopping for a ride like he'll talk about something and he will become colin robinson like he'll be talking about something like you know my wife and i we went shopping for a wine glass and i was like i don't know if you're joking right now because you're literally draining the fuck out of me right now um and he is sort of the master of that he's no one tops mark when it comes to that like that is his like his bread and butter because he was yeah i forget whose character's name was on the office but he served it up every time in The Office, too.

No one does what Mark does better. That's his bread and butter. That's his leg game, yeah. And bald, white, frumpy representation. Hello. Finally. Finally. He is the bald and the beautiful.

There's hope for us boring baldies. Maybe I could get a job in three years. Mediocre white men. We need representation. We need an L. I can learn a couple of lines. By the way, the revolving door of superstar guest stars you guys get. I mean, like Marissa Jarrett-Winniker, like Evan Rachel Wood.

Kristen Schaal. Dan Kristen Schaal. Kristen Schaal. Yeah. Oh, my God. I mean, I'm such a 30 Rock fan that I was fangirl and i'm such a broadway fan that i didn't have any scenes with marissa i went to set that day even though i was off that day from work oh really yeah and i went to set because i mean i think i made a tradition

like i if there's a guest star on any of the shows that i do um it's nice to go say hello you know what i mean like it's like hello welcome to the show like it's like nothing feels worse than guest star in a show and no one saying anything you know what i mean like you get guests on the show and you see the leads walk by and they're too busy with their frappuccino or something you don't say anything like hi nice to okay and they flick their cigarette at your face yeah there's a cigarette out this is like you know in the eye yeah in the eye uh there's an ashtray right there but like the fact that i made it a long time ago that's not how I you know like to work

so I make it a point to like say hello make them feel welcome like make them feel included we have guest stars this year that we can't announce yet oh can you give me

give me a hint or no is it is it is it Tina Knowles Beyonce's mother it is isn't it it's Solange

Solange it's Solange okay fine I'll say it it's the launch it's the launch it's the launch okay fine i'll say it's it's the launch yeah my dream list of guest stars would be like um i would love to see amy sedaris as a vampire council member oh that would be so okay beyond can can i tell you i'm making this up that is literally the first person on my list i've literally told casting was like, is there any way that we could get in there? Like, Oh no.

Cause we, so our casting director out of New York cast, uh, Amy's last show. At home. Wait, obsessed. Okay.

Bitch. I'm obsessed. Stranger with candy was my thing. Like I watched it on repeat. Like I'm obsessed with Amy Sedaris and I, people don't give her like the credit she deserves because she's a comic genius. Yeah.

And I literally was filming a movie and the casting director, uh, got an offer from Amy's show for me to come do the show. And they told, okay, wait, and they told them, Oh,

he's filming a movie. Cause I also cast him in this movie. So they said no to the project without ever telling me come to the cast. It was like, Oh, I wanted to tell you that they wanted you for that show, but I knew you were filming. I was like, Oh oh we moved production like a week i was off that week

and i was oh that is so disappointing i mean i was devastated because i was like that was my chance to meet everyone knows and that show that show is on the level of your show like it's that funny i mean it's she oh my god anything like a nosy neighbor like totally anything make it i literally have been saying it's like anything anything she just drops off a box i don't care like it's like anything and i think they're at one point they looked in her schedule was her show obviously she she was working on it. So it's just the timing. Sometimes you want people really badly. And people want to come on our show as well.

They put in their two cents and they've like sent like, hey, let me know. But there's no, like the writers have already written the season. Right. And there's no thing that like, you know, it wouldn't be fair to the storyline if we just included everybody wants to come play. If you included everybody who loves your show it would just be a talk show it'd be three it'd be three hours long an episode three hours an episode yeah we're only we're only a 21 minute show yeah god is that i know and it's so short it's so short i wish it was literally night it should be the drag race queen size episodes 90 minutes every

time at least 40 give me 40 fucking minutes like you know it's so funny that like in the uk and bbc they show the episode and they don't show commercials because it's uh they just don't show commercials on tv there so our show is uh so quick they put two episodes usually back to back so there you go 45 minutes there you go there you go yeah yeah only because we don't have commercials there but since since we live in America, they do need the commercials. So then like one is enough. But we always start with two episodes. So the season premiere usually starts with two episodes.

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So I'm just obsessed. What is happening with... What franchise are you watching oh the beverly hills with erica jane like what is that is that who is hunky dory is that is that from beverly hills kathy hill okay yeah who's a national treasure that's all i know about it staple yeah kathy hill yeah i love that one i love the new york um it's uh the salt lake one has another you know girl salt lake is salt lake is doing what none of the girls are doing and it's kind of under the radar it's great it's amazing like then jen jen shot oh my god i i just i'm just watching every minute and like that's how i like completely decompress like

i just like go home after doing comedy and like it's so great and then watching these housewives and their stories a housewife another guest star that could potentially. Yes, but also, I mean, your show is like a faux. It's not a reality show, but it's a faux doc. But it is faux reality. So I would think having a healthy dose of reality is probably good for you. You should have Kathy Hilton on there. Yes, she comes and knocks on the door and says, who's hunky dory?

Instant kill. Was there a moment where, there was a moment where like, Scott Bakula was like, because they thought he was related to Dracula? Was that what he was? And they call him and he's in Sherman Oaks at his home. So fucking stupid. So stupid. So stupid.

Girl, the Zoom meeting. facetime yeah blade yeah wesley snipes on a laptop fucking legendary so fucking good also the whoever thought of like okay in this universe if you've ever played a vampire in a movie you are a vampire in real life yeah that is so good we follow the rules like we follow the rules of like uh you know anything from you know interview the vampire uh even the kickball scene which was it's so funny because i was with uh katherine hardwick last night uh we went to see a movie here in toronto she's filming here and she directed twilight the first one and so she was like she has no she was watching the show and then literally texting was like what did you guys do i was like yep you directed it and then we took it and now we did it in our

show so good the kickball scene it was just like that it's just like we don't we're not above that like we're not above like throwing a wink to like you know what we're talking about you saw the fucking movie you know it's like yeah yeah that's awesome those movies are really kati just did a recap of it and those movies are really on another level they are totally out of this world unhinged crazy wild wild crazy wild ever since covid started i've been like you harvey i've been having like a i don't have a strong reality tv foundation like i haven't seen the classic so during covid we watched like you know um the simple life and i watched top model for the

first time and all that and now i'm watching wife swap from the beginning oh and none of the girls are doing what wife swap is doing no taking taking like taking like a military family and swapping it with like a bunch of like peace-loving hippies and just letting them scream at each other. I mean, it's crazy. My favorite is that one lady who's like, the devil, the devil. Oh, the god warrior? Her name is Marguerite. Yeah.

The one who's like, tarot cards, gargoyles. Yeah. Gargoyles, like it's, yeah. Be gone, be gone. It's pretty crazy. Actually, that might have been trading spouses. Oh, was it? Might have been.

Because trading spouses, I believe, is the one where they get to give the other family $10,000. I really don't know. If they see it through, right? If they have to see it through. So, like, three days. You have to live with them for three days or something like that. But that might be right. It's also the same time frame, right?

It's around the 90s. Like, Y-Swap and trading space trading spouses trading oh she yeah it was trading spouses and she's she's i think she might even be gay now no no come on well here's an article uh 14 years after infamous appearance on trading spouses we talked to marguerite perrin about her lasting internet fame and embracing the LGBT. Oh, so she likes gays now. Oh, she's just, she's down with the girls. She's just down with the girls.

She's a gay warrior. She's down with the girls. Okay. She's a gay warrior. I also love, like, speaking of gay, I just love that Laszlo is, like, just so bisexual, pansexual, whatever, and just talks about sucking dick and cock all the time. Well, all the vampires are queer. Pretty, oh, all the time well all the vampires are queer pretty oh really yeah it's all the vampires are queer yeah because if you remember there was an episode where laszlo and nandor don't get off and they're like waiting by the room like so do

you want to we should and they go in and finish each other off in the room that's right yeah and it's i love what we do about the show is that being queer is not the demise of anyone. Being queer is part of their life and it's just intertwined into the story. And it's never the topic of conversation. It's never like, oh, I think they're queer. Because that's what most, you know, mainstream does that. Because it's also like not even interesting. Like it's not interesting enough.

But it's because for so long it's like you know been you know a taboo and a mainstream television or american culture where it's just like and the character is gay you know what i mean it's almost like the gay character is always going to have the demise of like their life oh and they came out and they lose their job because they came out and they've and it's like it all falls apart right and in this world being queer is uh you're thriving and you happen to be queer and you're thriving totally that's it be queer and you're thriving. Totally. That's right. Because that's reality. That's life. People have everyday lives and they happen to be clear.

I also like that it's handled it's sort of like, you know, these vampires have been alive for so long. It's sort of like a later stage of evolution that they are a little queer and don't even care. Yeah, you know what I mean? Well, you know, exactly right. Like the idea that if you live for hundreds of years, you have nothing to lose, what do you have to fear? The reason that people are so scared is because society makes them scared to come out and be queer. But if everyone had nothing to lose and you were going to live your life and you're a vampire and you can defend yourself, you have no fear.

You're like, yeah, I love this. I love that. I love everything. What are you going to say about it? There's no fear. We live in a world where like the fear holds us back. But if we lived in a world where everyone just fucking be queer, if you want to be queer and let people be queer.

You know what else? I'm glad me to come back this season. Creepy paper. That wasn't on the script. I love the creepy paper. I love the creepy paper. It was such a good throwback. I was,

cause that for some reason that has like stuck in my brain. I love the creepy paper. It wasn't in the script originally. And I threw it it in i didn't think they were going to use it and i just remember i just yeah i just remember it was like we have to bring it back and like we're thinking about we're shooting season four now we're halfway through and there's some things that we're okay we're talking about oh yeah that's right from season one remember we and so there's always those moments of like we should do a little bit of like people like that people who are really paying attention will notice those little like things yes can i ask how much how much you guys break and who breaks the most i would say most of my

scenes recently or in the first three seasons were with cave on um and so i i would say cave on breaks the most uh because he's so fucking funny but he always makes fun of me because i'm such a you know guillermo's grounded and he's not you know over the top like the vampires are so bigger than life you know i could never make guillermo that level because they're like whatever you know like they're yelling at the top of their lungs natasha's character is yelling all the time at lazlo lazlo's just talking with his inflection and guillermo has to be subtle it has to be grounded he's no longer than a softer whisper you know because he's afraid to step out of line for the first two seasons because they'll demote him and so i'm always really grounded it's so hard to

stay grounded in guillermo character all the time and then here's cave on making a joke and he laughs at his own joke i'm like stop he's just like okay And he's just like, okay, I won't do it. I won't do it. Yeah. And then, aha! And he, like, breaks character and just, like, laughs at his own joke. And I'm like, we just had a take the other night where it was the last, it was a martini shot for the night.

And, like, K-Von got the giggles and just couldn't stop laughing. And I was like, stop. Because then I start doing it, too. And then once I get going, it's just tears down my eyes. And, like, I can't stop. So, it's hard just to keep grounded as Guillermo. And then on I get going, it's just tears down my eyes. And like, I can't stop. So it's hard just to keep grounded as Guillermo. And then on top of that, trying not to laugh at how hilarious Kayvon is. Like it's like this containment of a bond that's about to go off.

And it's so hard. And eventually it just has to explode. I wonder what that's like. I've always wondered what it's like to laugh with a co-star. Oh, shut up. You know what? I do think about that. we are lucky because our job is to make each other laugh yeah yeah yeah we have to laugh yeah like we especially since we

have no audience like yeah we're supposed to try to make each other laugh yeah i think it would be really fucking hard because i think once it starts it gets worse like when i've had to do stage productions with peaches and stuff once something is funny funny, it's like, what do you do? You can't, I mean, you're feeling what the audience is feeling. So they're going to laugh at this. Yeah. And that's what we also know when something's going to be good. Yeah.

When the actors can't keep it together. Yeah. My favorite memory is being in season one and our boom guy who's, you know, these guys have been around, like they've seen it every, every show. They're never like, they, half of the time, they probably don't even know what the storyline is because they're like another show. That's a gig, half of the time, they probably don't even know what the storyline is because they're like, another show, that's a gig,

you know, like they're doing it. And so in the boom, and our crew is so lovely and they love our show so much. They go above and beyond and they're like paying attention to everything.

So even the boom guy was like watching and he got the giggles and he started shaking. Oh, see, I love that. That's my favorite thing. And eventually,

it kind of fell and it got into the shot. And I was like, that's it. That's the one. That's my favorite thing. And eventually it kind of fell and it got into the shot. And I was like, that's it. That's the one. Yeah. The boom guy who's heard it all. Yeah. He's seen it all.

He's shaking and he's slapping inside so much and he can't even hold it together. And he drops the boom. That we know it's a good joke. Yeah. You know, it's a good scene. You look down, the boom is on the floor and then you see a boner in his pants. That's how you know. That's how you know that's how you know

you really got him you really got him gal well on drag race that's the only time i ever cared is if a camera person laughed that's the only time i ever cared yep totally like if you have nothing else to go off yeah if you quiet you do these little talking head things like where's just you you know answering questions from an interviewer like you know the three or four other um uh you know sound and audio guys in the room, like, I always try to make them laugh. And if I can hear them giggle, I know I'm on the right track. But otherwise, it can be pretty grim. Yeah. This episode is brought to you by New Balance Running. New Balance believes if you run, you're a runner.

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Wow. Which is a really quick turnaround. We also cross shoot. What does that mean? Cross shoot means that in one day we'll be shooting, let's say it's season one. So it'll be episode 101 102 103 and so on so in one day we'll be shooting we'll start the day with 102 and by lunchtime we'll be at 105 a piece of 105 like a little segment and by dinner time you might be

shooting a little bit of 109 oh wow so you're everywhere i know and as an actor that's crazy for me my first season was a little tough because, again, the trajectory of Guillermo is he's going somewhere with it. Right. So with the vampires, every episode would wrap up really nicely in the first season. Like, you know, Colin gets a promotion. Someone goes on a date. They can't figure out the computer. There's a curse on the computer. So everything gets resolved at the end of the episode. So it's easy to, you know, insert yourself in the day of that you know scene for guillermo it was a little bit hard and also there were um episodes that we wouldn't get ahead of

time so we would be shooting a scene from like episode 109 and it'd be like why is he covered in blood and it's like we can't tell you and it'd be like what and it's just like we can't uh we're not like they wouldn't tell us because they wanted to keep it so secretive and be on our toes like a real documentary so it felt organic but they wouldn't because the movie was shot that taika and jimmy there was no scripts given to the actors they got to set and they were told you have to exit the door talk about going to like the store and dinner go and so yeah so the script was never given to the actors and so we we got the script but we were limited so some stuff we get sides for us an episode and we're like so guillermo

gets in the car the car is covered in blood in the front what what how did that happen yeah we haven't shot that episode yet we can't tell you just work you're terrified amazing that's like sounds like drag race yeah but more blood yeah i've been watching i've been watching reno 911 from the beginning too and so i'm watching it for the first time like as an adult being like oh my god these people probably had absolutely nothing i mean this is all just suggestions and then turn the cameras on and go crazy yeah yeah it's crazy yeah wild i i i could appreciate like keeping on your toes because for the first you know season it changed after season one then we would get the scripts

and we have a table read and all that but i think for the first season they were trying to see the formula would work from the movie and for a movie that's great but also they had hundreds and hundreds of hours for the movie that they had to edit and yana who's actually uh our director for uh half the episodes this season uh and last season as well she edited the movie and it took forever because there was so much footage because you're you're just improvising and then you have to make a story out of that you're like how does this fit and then condense it um but she's amazing and she already so now having her as a director coming from the world of editing she already knows it's going to get used and what's not that's so cool yeah yeah i was somebody some actor the other day said like um film is really

an editor's medium not a director's medium so it's like oh to go from editor director that makes a lot of sense a hundred because she she knows what's going to get edited and what's going to work and so i've now transferred over as a director is so good with her her takes are like i got it means like you'll do like two takes like we got it unless you want to have a fun one that's a fun one she moves so smoothly because she already knows what's going to be in the editing room floor and what's going to be used and what's not so it saves you a lot of time you know uh so our first our first season our hours were real crazy uh we would do like 15 hours 16 sometime uh because we had to shoot so quickly and condense it since then. And because of COVID as well, like we've last year was like 10 hour days, which is totally

great. You know, families are home with their loved ones for dinner. Yeah. Like it was great. Like those are those are great. So we're back on that track. It's keeping it steady. And it's good for you.

It's also like, you know, talking about crew and everyone uh you need to be rested you know like you need to go home and see your family have a life what uh yeah she doesn't know that word rested so rested is when you lay down and you don't go sleepy oh you mean like you do the rest of your work no no no like you have time to rest uh and so it's been really nice and our crew here in tor Toronto is so amazing and wonderful. That like, you know, it makes our job easier just because everyone's great. And FX has been wonderful and giving us what we want and like making it crazier. Every season is bigger. Oh, my gosh. Crazy. And the set like this set this season, season three, it's like the house is

getting bigger. We're finding these new areas. And I'm like, the sets are so... There was this scene like a couple episodes ago where you walked in and Laszlo was playing the piano. And I was like, look at this fucking room. I don't think we'd ever seen that room from that angle. That's the music room. The music room. I was like, look at this room.

Yeah. The music room has been added. We've added a new room to this season. So you'll be seeing a new room to this season so you'll be seeing a new room and if you notice last season season three we had the chamber of curiosities which is that giant like harry potter looking library yeah yeah yeah so that took like that that goes to our you know set designer who's amazing and they designed that during a pandemic like they they couldn't even go to like uh you know home depot to get wood to build this my god the fact that they built a brand new set during a pandemic safely it took

six months to build that set six months to build that beautiful set and it has opening doors like the shelves open and they reveal the world where the jalopy was remember the jalopy episode with the car yes yeah there there's a the library has a vhs porn section that like is from top to bottom like the detail i walk into this set and i see some stuff that i'm like i looked i went to the uh the the fancy room is where from the uh pilot episode where we have the meetings and the fancy room and i went to the desk and i looked at a bunch of pile of papers and there's like fake dust and everything and then i pulled one of the papers out and i opened it it was a disneyland map from 1969 in in their stuff and i was like what how is this should this be here this is an original map from like disney like and it was just hidden in our shelves because

everything has to be antique and old and what's that story there like there's a story that we could pull from like at one point did they go to disney like what like so the story that you can just pull from the library alone like the books that are there like it's insane that's it's really crazy but then again when you when everybody's in like high horror vampire drag it would be absurd if the environment wasn't on that level yeah you know yeah yeah it has to be uh up to par yeah the lighting is so fucking fierce the lighting is so great it's so beautiful it's so beautiful and there's so many little stupid running jokes when you've watched the show as long as so religiously as we have i mean every time there's a new season when it's over, I just start it again. And yelling bat whenever you fly. Stupid. So stupid.

So funny. And then you know who I want to come back to? I mean, I know it's not like a full lifetime yet. That guy that Nadia every lifetime almost falls in love with him. Jeff? Jeff? Oh, yes. Is it Jib? Jib? Jerm?

Jess. So funny. He it Jib? Jib. Jib. Jerm? Jerm? Jess. So funny. He's great. He's wonderful. He was in the pilot and then he came back as a ghost, remember? Yes. And that looked cool. That was our first episode of season two.

Yeah. The ghost episode was so good. Yeah. So good. And those were like, it's hard to do because all those characters are the same character so like you have to like get dressed into a full drag for like you know the vampires and then get out of drag to play the ghost in their drag and then be in lights and blah blah so those were so hard to shoot because it's the same person talking to each other like it's very like parent trap the original one yeah the it's very parent trap like where like it's like you

know and and the horse the horse is a ghost we had a girl yeah john my horse john and that's how we also got the um the the nadja baby doll though which is so fucking crazy so i said they have to make that doll they have to make that doll everyone has now they're at this point has a catchphrase and i think you know for everyone like that you know and uh this fucking guy or guillermo you know or for guillermo used to be uh my name is guillermo lacruz and just recently i've noticed through the fan base online that like the new quote that they chose for him is you live because i let you yeah and that that that that scene was so fierce that came out of nowhere and like as a viewer you go oh my god i never realized that guillermo might really be able to whoop his ass yeah i mean or go toe to

toe absolutely yeah like the power shift you're like oh my god this has been it really reminds you of like guillermo now is just really letting them feel powerful yeah yeah and remember that uh everyone has their limits and i think that's a really good thing and the nice thing i like about guillermo is that uh everyone can be pushed everyone can be pushed to your limits you're a nice guy until you're not and you made me a bad guy you know what i mean it's like there's no reason not to be nice and if you just continue to push people you don't know what they're capable of it's like don't try me like try me you know just like that yeah i could not believe i won't spoil it for anybody who hasn't seen the the third season all the way through but if they haven't seen it they deserve to get no no no i wasn't

but that last little little um oh the moment yeah i was like oh i was gagged i was gagged the baby oh the baby yeah it's so it's so insane so insane holding the glasses so insane yeah so insane so yeah it's a little traumatized it broke my heart when i read that because here you think you're so hopeful you're like things are gonna work out and then you're like oh no and then you like you know fucking laszlo yeah because he's protecting laszlo's protecting what he loves right yeah he's making sure that his lady love is protected yeah so he's doing it out of love but out of love for someone you're hurting another potential yeah i knew enough not to be satisfied with like with a happy ending but that totally

threw me for it was like i was like holy like, holy shit, this is wild. Yeah. Crazy. People were gagging, like they were gagging. It was gagging. I literally was like, oh! Yeah. Yes!

Permanents! I guess we could wrap it up here, but I mean, congratulations on just being, I mean, you're so great. Yeah. You really make this show so great. I can't believe,

I'm so happy you, through luck and magic and talent, are on just the best show on tv yeah oh thank you that's really kind thank you so much um for taking some time out of your very hectic vampire slaying schedule to be with us here today oh my god are you kidding me i'm such a fan i'm like so giddy oh yeah you love the drag race you love the girls that's the best thing about getting famous on drag race is that cool fucking celebrities with actual talent are fans of us that is that that is like i love it i i keep saying i

haven't been a judge on drag race but i want to so find it have to hook it up have to hook it up okay i'll hook that up and then hook this up if if there's ever a Russian transvestite vampire character. No, no, no. I do, Mama. I can go from this to Gollum in about 12 minutes. So like I can, it's a real easy fix. Just like. Yeah.

Or you know what? Even easier. If you need like a disgusting. A disgusting, haggard, 172 year old vampire troll swamp thing. Mama, I'll do my own makeup. It'll be flawless. Are you kidding me i literally have already put you both on like the list for casting i was like if there's anything and like tricks you know like i literally die i'm like i want to work with people that like i'm such a fan of i love uh yes it's gonna happen hook it up by the way this is the

five degrees seven degrees of separation um kate be Beckinsale loves Katya, who played a vampire in Underworld. Underworld. And not only that, not only that, you mentioned Judy Greer a little while ago. Judy Greer, yeah. Yeah. I worked with her. I don't know how that's relevant. It's so connected.

I worked with her at the Petco. Yeah. Well, I followed her home from the supermarket one day. Close enough. Close enough. Oh, can you let the girls know where they can find you? Oh, yeah. Please.

Please. How can we find you on social media? You can find me on Twitter, on Instagram. Just my full name, Harvey Guillen, on Twitter and Instagram. How do you spell that? G-U-I? G-U-I-L-L-E-N. Got it. And you spell Harvey. H-A-R-V-E-Y.

Harvey Guillen. Call now. Thank you so much. Well, thank you for coming on, babe. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. I love you both. I'm such a fan. And thank you so much for watching the show. It means the world. Oh my God. When is the next season coming out? Next season's coming out

next year. So we're finishing it. That's my problem i want like big brother i want it on every night hour long i know but but look at it this way because you know if you look at the math we shot season three in january of this year till april and it's already you already binged all through that so we finished a full season in one year and started a new season in the same year so we did two seasons in 10 months. I'm sorry. It's not fast enough. It's not fast enough. I need some fast.

You people don't need sleep. Okay. You don't need sleep. Awesome. Go, go, go. Thank you so much. All right. Bye, honey.

Have a great rest of your day. Thank you so much. Love you. Yay. Bye. Bye. Bye.