The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - Bob the Drag Queen's Dream Deferred with Trixie

Episode Date: December 17, 2024

What happens to a dream deferred? A dream filled with tight outfits, latex boots, and furs? A dream saturated with showmanship, physicality, and wholesome recreation for both him and her? A dream of B...ob: "Bob the Professional Wrestler". Does a dream deferred dry up like a raisin in the sun? Or fester like a sore—one that you caught last weekend from that hot Belgian? Does it stink like rotten meat? Or smell like Katya after a long show—like a sweaty, pickled beet? Maybe it just sags and squelches like a heavy load. Or does it, like the pure podcast magic that is Trixie and Bob in the same room for an hour, simply explode? For sustainable size and gender inclusive underwear, swimwear and loungewear for all bodies, head to https://tomboyx.com Join the 17 million Rakuten members who are already saving! Start all of your holiday shopping at https://Rakuten.com or download the Rakuten app to start saving today. Your Cash Back really adds up! Turn your holiday purchases into steps toward your financial goals with Chime’s secure credit card. Get started today at https://Chime.com/BALD Chime. Feels like Progress. This holiday season, unwind and recharge with VIIA! If you're 21+, try VIIA today at: https://viia.co/BALD and use code BALD to receive 15% off! Follow Bob: @BobTheDragQueen Follow Trixie: @TrixieMattel Follow Katya: @Katya_Zamo To watch the podcast on YouTube: http://bit.ly/TrixieKatyaYT Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: http://bit.ly/baldandthebeautifulpodcast If you want to support the show, and get all the episodes ad-free go to: https://thebaldandthebeautiful.supercast.com If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be amazing! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: http://bit.ly/baldandthebeautifulpodcast To check out future Live Podcast Shows, go to: https://trixieandkatyalive.com To order your copy of our book, "Working Girls", go to: workinggirlsbook.com To check out the Trixie Motel in Palm Springs, CA: https://www.trixiemotel.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:04:53 The failed pod. And Monet, that's what happens when you try to venture out with other drag queens without me, honey. Yeah. You know, I've never experienced being in a pod with a crazy person, so I can't relate to Monet's experience. What could that be? Yeah, I know, I've never experienced being in a pod with a crazy person, so I can't relate to Moni's experience. What could that be? Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:07 You guys, this was so meant to be. Bob and I are so booked and blessed that we're never here together, and Bob literally has a studio next to our Trixie Cosmetic whatever complex, and you were there today, and Tracy was like, should you see if Bob will do it? I was like, well, Bob's about to leave on tour,
Starting point is 00:05:22 and if I don't speak now, you'll be gone for months. What was my last, yes, my last two shows for, I mean, this probably already happened. Are you in the middle of the tour? I'm at the very end of the US leg. Oh, I thought you were, there are buses out there because you were packing it up. No, we're bringing it back.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Oh, good. Cause I was hoping you could plug your show. Yeah, no, we're bringing it back. I mean, but I think, when does this come out? Like two or three years. Oh, it was, so yeah, the UK, so the UK tour is still happening. I'm still going to the UK. I mean, but I think when does this come out? Like two or three years. So yeah, the UK. So the UK tour is still happening. I saw I'm still going to the UK. I can get those dates. We like to hold the episodes until someone dies and then the views spike. And I
Starting point is 00:05:54 can make sure someone dies. You pick who it is. I'll get rid of them. Well, well, well, you guys, Bob just said she wants to get a Stanley. This is the Barbie. This is the Ken Stanley. I'm going to tell you, you put ice in it. it's three days later, that ice is still fucking in there. So I don't drink cold drinks though. I drink room temperature drinks. I don't, you do not need this. Like almost, but I wanna drink more water.
Starting point is 00:06:14 So I bought a Stanley, but I left it in a hotel room, which is upsetting because it was like, it was very expensive, but Trickster is gonna give me one, so. Yeah. And I'll swing by your house. No, no, no, no, no, you can. You definitely can because Barbie sent me
Starting point is 00:06:26 all those Barbie Stanleys and I got like nine of them. So you have to take it. Oh, that's exciting. And I had a purple Stanley. Oh, that would have been nice. Yeah, it was nice until, until I lost it. Well, we have Barbie and the rockers, which is purple. Otherwise the black Barbie Stanley.
Starting point is 00:06:39 How much have you left in hotel rooms? How much time do we have? Two, two Apple, two, two watches, apple watches, so upset and probably two iPads, not to mention every type of self care. You know what the killer razors, cream, uh, face cream, uh, flossers. Yep. If you are in a room behind me, you don't have to go torture shop. Girl, it's all there.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Oh, the woman who cleans the room or male or whoever cleans the room after they're just at CVS. Literally. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So I've started putting by I go to CVS and I buy the little mini little me and I just fill them up at home.
Starting point is 00:07:15 That's nice. That way when I get back, I kept buying, I was on the run. I was like, oh, I don't have I use this oil cleanser cause, you know, survey survey. Is that my saying it right? It's like C E R V A E. Yes. Yeah. And I use it because I get like these like, uh, sebaceous filaments. I found that. I know that queen. Yeah. She's a gentleman. Sebasia. She's on Dracula. I thought of a good
Starting point is 00:07:36 dragon the other day. Any publicity that is a good one is good publicity. And then is a good publicity. That's probably not great. Um, but yeah, I, I use CeraVe and I kept buying more and more CeraVe because I was like, oh, I couldn't, you don't want to travel with a big thing because it gets everywhere and always uncaps and everything in your bag is oily and wet or whatever. And then I just started filling them up. And now if I lose those little things, it's not a big deal.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Yeah. Can I tell you how jealous I am that you just went to see Wicked, can you tell me about it? Wicked, let me say it right now. Bob went to the premiere, she looked fucking great. I'm not gonna lie, I did look pretty good. And Jake, damn. Oh, my earring came out.
Starting point is 00:08:14 It's fine, I'll do the one earring. Alexa, play, I have nothing. I'll do the one earring, it's kind of cut. It's gay now, it's gay now. But yeah, so I am a big fan of movie musicals, and I go see almost all of them. I didn't see Mamma movie musicals and I go see almost all of them I didn't see Mamma Mia But I will go see almost all of them because I was like this is gonna be the one that's gonna bring back music
Starting point is 00:08:30 I am I humble opinion Chicago was the resurgence of the 2002 Chicago was like oh movie musicals are good again. That's an amazing movie musical. Have you ever seen the play? Of course Yeah, I saw I saw I saw a Todrick Hall and the West End. I saw Jinx Monsoon on Broadway. I hate to say I like the movie more. Oh, the movie is more than the live show. This is this is like public information. Yeah, the movie is much better. I went to see Todrick and famously walked out in the middle and he knows about it.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Before we went number did you walk out on at the intermission? I was like, you guys, Todrick is giving. Todrick was giving. And then the rest of us like, these people have been doing this show. I can see it in their eyes. You said, well, I'm out. Isn't that horrible?
Starting point is 00:09:14 And you know what else? I think it was a, did I buy a ticket? I think it was a free ticket. That's crazy. Isn't that, but Todrick knows. I mean, but then I saw Todrick in Kinky Boots and stayed for all of that because I loved it because I love Cindy Lauper.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Come see me and see, wait, by the time this comes out, I'll already have open for Cindy Lauper. I'm on your shit now. Congratulations. You're out with Madonna, I'm out with Cindy Lauper. That's amazing. It's a copy of you. So I saw Todrick in Kinky Boots too
Starting point is 00:09:39 and I ran into RuPaul outside of the building. And I was like, oh my God, RuPaul. What'd she say? She turned around and she was like, hey. She wasn't. And I was like, oh my God, RuPaul. What'd she say? She turned around and she was like, hey, which she wasn't looking. And I was like, it's Bob, which I don't know if she recognized. She's like Barker? Literally, and she was like, Hope?
Starting point is 00:09:52 I was like, Bob, I was in Bob the Dragway. She's like, oh, and then we had a brief. It was outside and there were a lot of fans, so she kind of booked it. Can I tell you, there's this one moment I think about a lot, and I don't like super, you know, if I'm not doing pit stop or you're doing pit stop, I don't really always watch drag race now,
Starting point is 00:10:06 but I know about this time that at drag con RuPaul forgot Jinkx's name. Oh, and if you know Jinkx, you know that she thinks about that every day. Seattle, uh, Seattle, you know, that Jinkx every night goes to bed and is like, I can't believe my name to this day. It's horny. I heard when they crown her, she was like, and the winner is a Seattle. It's so the queen of all queens is a Seattle. Yeah. How do you think we would do in all winners? Would we slay? You would, you know, in all honesty, I do think I'd go very far. I, in my mind,
Starting point is 00:10:36 I think I win, but I'm also low key a little bit delusional. I mean, when they call me for drag race site unseen before I had seen a new way, single competitor was, I was like, I just want drag race, this is crazy. Which is kind of absurd. But Bob, it's not. I don't want to blow smoke. I just told the last two guests, I said, what's amazing about Bob is the higher the stakes,
Starting point is 00:10:54 the more people are watching, the more it's a razor thin ice skate that she has to ride on in the moment, the more she delivers. I thrive under pressure. You always thrive. It's like, you'll have a great show for 100 people or an incredible show for 1000 people. It's like, you know, you're not wrong. Thank you for saying that. I'm like a volcano when the pressure is on, it's a show, honey. And everyone
Starting point is 00:11:14 and someone's gonna get hurt. Someone's gonna get fucking hurt in this bitch, honey. Because I've seen you. Um, God, I mean, I've seen you at Carolines. I've seen your I've seen you at bars. I've seen you with Monet. I've seen you really in every iteration up to Madonna even. I haven't seen this tour. You know it. You've seen me everywhere from industry to Madison Square. No, no, you didn't see Madison Square.
Starting point is 00:11:32 You saw me in Houston in Texas. Yes. Yeah. And so you've seen me from literally a bar show to an arena show, which is kind of gaggy. And you're just, you're unaffected by anything like, what if I don't do well? What if this flops? You just plug in and drive it and it's perfect.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Yeah, I'm just trying to do the best I can. I mean, there have been times where I was performing at Hardware Bar. I've always said that there were more people working at the bar than there were people patronizing the bar. Oh, yeah. Like, it was like, but I was like,
Starting point is 00:12:00 I'm going to put on a motherfucking show. We're going to do a good job. We're going to have a good show. And to be honest, some of those shows felt as good as performing at Madison Square of those shows felt as good as performing at Madison Square Garden. It felt as good as performing for 1.6 million people in Rio de Janeiro.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Like the number, the size of the crowd doesn't necessarily make me perform harder. Not at all. But especially for comedy, if it's a smaller room, I was just talking to someone about this, but it's like under 300, you know they can see like your eyes and subtle nuances. And so you almost feel like really connected.
Starting point is 00:12:27 You know I'm obsessed with, obsessed with you with, what's that guy's name? The guy who has the, the radio guy, you need this podcast. And he was like, in these bars, he goes, yeah, there are bars in the theaters. Ah, Zach, Zach. That was so bitchy and so, you know, it was epic. I wasn't trying to be bitchy or country, but I was like, cause you
Starting point is 00:12:46 gathered no cause I didn't stop. I didn't, Bob, I didn't gather. No, I did not. I didn't be Yaki bundles in the top. I gathered. Then I did like a box break. Yes. It was a full, so great. I love that, but I didn't mean it that way. I just thought, wow. Um, I'm happy to be here, but, um, I just thought, wow, I'm happy to be here, but he thinks that I am currently at a local gig rolling around on the sticky floor for wet singles. He thinks that that's what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:13:13 He's like, I know what y'all do. And by the way, I've done it and I'm not above it and I'll do it again. But that's not what we're doing today, Hope. You know that clip of you lip syncing at the brunch and everyone was like, honey, the rep must be, did you know about people saying this? When you did the, the, the, the, the, the comedy, um, everyone was like, the rent must have been due.
Starting point is 00:13:31 The mortgage must have been mortgaged. I didn't say this, but the internet was saying, can I just say that all of these little faggots think that they're my personal accountant? Because sometimes I do something and they're like, get that coin. I'm like, are you H andR block? What are you talking about? She must have been broke. She must have been broke. No, bitch, if I showed you what they paid me, bitch, you would get out there
Starting point is 00:13:52 and spread your hole and let your father fuck you. OK, so what else, bitch? And I do for free. No, I just think it's funny because if I lip sync, people think that I have like an ISIS thing, people like they really dragged Trixie into do this. And I'm like, listen, I might not be good at lip syncing, but I never said I hated it. No, Trixie likes lip syncing.
Starting point is 00:14:13 I like it. The first tour that we did together, you were up there lip syncing for your life and like living, you were living. Love it, I love lip syncing. I just, I'm not known for being the best at it, but it's kind of my brand is to be just mid at everything. I don't think you're mid at,
Starting point is 00:14:28 I think you excel at a lot of things. You do, you're obviously, I think obviously with the makeup and having an iconic look and with branding and with, I don't think people realize this. Y'all the fact that Brian Ferkas, Trixie Mattel, Dupree Balenciaga III is releasing content. Andrews.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Andrews. Thank you. Davenport. Dupree. Davenport has been releasing content on the schedule she does. I don't think I understand how hard it is. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Now, be damned the YouTube videos, but the YouTube video and the podcast, and then the TikToks, and then the live shows. And uh, for a long time, then the pit stop. Was on done. Well, we're on break. Yeah. And then the pit stop when you weren't doing it. Breaking news.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And then the pit stop when you were doing it. Oh, and watching. Well, we like to watch. Then tour dates, then Trixie Mo... Like for a while it was like... I wonder why you needed a break. Girl, it was no good. You look so good.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Everybody keeps telling me I'll have a happy look, which I think means, oh, best was no good. You look so good. Oh, everybody keeps telling me how happy I look, which I think means, oh, best. So thank you. No, you look, no, you look good, girl. I mean, I don't want to speak out of turn here, but you look really healthy. I looked bad for a while. It was bad.
Starting point is 00:15:37 And I haven't felt, I have like reverse body dysmorphia now because even though that unhealthy mental breakdown skinny didn't look good, that was the first time I ever felt thin. So now being back to like my normal pant size, I feel, it's hard for me to not feel bad about. You look good. Oh, thank you. You look really, really good.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Thank you, thank you. Yeah, when I saw you today, I was like, oh my God, it made me happy. Oh, thank you. When I watched English Teacher, I was like, oh my God, it made me happy. Oh, thank you. When I watched English Teacher, I was like, oh my God, I look like a skeleton. It was not special effects makeup, y'all? No, it was.
Starting point is 00:16:11 No, you had the teeth thing. They did the yellow teeth. They also did like blue and red around the eyes to make me look a little more like. I'll have to take your veneers off. And that was just the old school. No, I made them clip them off. She's like, y'all saw these?
Starting point is 00:16:24 Y'all saw these motherfuckers on season seven? Yeah, they're back.. No, they clear out. I made them clip them off. She's like, y'all saw these. Y'all saw these motherfuckers on season seven. Yeah, they're back in the house. I know. I think it's so funny because I you want to talk about delusion. I never thought I had difficult teeth. And then I please fix this is driving me. Oh, my God, that was going to make me.
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Starting point is 00:20:32 and World Report 2023. Can I, can you just, people know how we met? We just talked about this earlier. Yeah, we did, yeah, yeah. So we met, Bob and I met, I had just done season seven and I had known, all the drag queens in the world knew about Bob's work from like, Facebook was kind of that thing at the time.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Yeah, it was pretty big. Yeah. Yeah. And so I messaged Bob, I think, or you messaged me. I bet if we logged into our account somehow, I realized so I had a honey, honey bunks. I had a roommate named honey LeBronx. Honey LeBronx is from what would tell so Wisconsin. Yes. And she would go back to perform, but she lived in New York City for a long time. She lives in New York City to this day. Legendary vegan activist. Yes. Like, y'all, she's like, by the way, when you think about it, Wicked is really an animal rights movie. Yeah. I mean, the animals should be seen and not heard. Yeah. On the broader sense.
Starting point is 00:21:16 We didn't even talk about Wicked yet. Oh my god. The way you skipped over it. Should we do this or should we go back? Do you think that we could have been Ariana and Cynthia Arebo? Under no circumstances. Watching that film, maybe one of we could have been Ariana and Cynthia? I don't know circumstances watching that film. Maybe one of us could have played the character Bowen Yang played maybe.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Maybe on a good day if there's extra CGI. Yeah, maybe possibly. Yeah. Who plays Dr. Dillamond? It's Peter Dinklage. Oh, I love, yes. But it's just voice. Cause it's a CGI goat.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Oh, I didn't know that. Okay. Well, I love the play and I love the musical.. Because it's a CGI goat. Oh, I didn't know that. OK. Well, I love the play and I love the musical. I can't wait to see it. You looked amazing. So what I was saying was, in 2002, I think Chicago saved the movie musical. Because in my humble opinion, Gene Kelly did a Zanadu,
Starting point is 00:21:59 was kind of the death of the movie musical in like the 80s. Right? It was like, wow, Olivia Newton-John and Zanadu, this was not a great, this wasn't a great one. And movie musicals are a big deal. And they kind of just fell off. And people were not, the whole 90s, people were like, we're not fucking around
Starting point is 00:22:11 with movie musical. Y'all can make some, but we don't really fuck with them. 2002, Chicago came out, changed the game. It did. I mean, Britney Zellweger and Kath, they eat. Everyone, perfectly, everyone. Queen Latifah, Richard Gere, Johnson, this movie was perfectly cast.
Starting point is 00:22:25 The director, every single person down to the matrons of Murder and Cellbox Ango, over to the lady who plays Mary Sunshine. Perfectly cast film, right? And then it's like movie, musical, movie, musical, musical. The next big, big, big one that was huge and successful in my humble opinion was Dream Girls 2006. Dream Girls was a brilliant film. Absolutely brilliant film. Wasn't Hairspray first?
Starting point is 00:22:54 No. 2005? No, no, no, Hairspray was not, was it? Hairspray was not in 2005. We're gonna be Monet. Look it up, I would love to be right. I wanna say Hairspray was 2008 or 2010. 2007. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah. Oh, fuck off, bitch. Fuck off.
Starting point is 00:23:09 I tried to get you so good. Um, so then, you know, it was good. It wasn't as good as dream girls and, and, and Chicago, in my opinion. And then we're getting a mama Mia last five years, we're getting lay Ms, we're getting all these moves, which are like, what you're, they're fine. And then, so I did not have high expectations going into Wicked. I really did not. And to be, to be clear, I had this how I got an invitation to the premiere. Um, when I was in Italy, Cynthia Revo texts me and she goes, um, can I,
Starting point is 00:23:35 I want to come see Madonna tonight. I'm in town. And I said, I got you. It was a day of the show. I said, I got you. Cause I like you and you're, you always been friend. You've, you've always been kind to my people. So it was very lovely. So I got her to get it was to Ariana who hates you. Hates me. It did not text me. Yeah. So I had even I have Madonna's manager go out there, grab her, take her to her seat, everything. And then I text her back and say, I got to be honest with you, Cynthia, I never do this. But I'm calling I'm calling back in that favor. I need to go to the wicked premiere. Oh, fierce. I gotta go. And she takes back, she goes, I got you.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Hell yeah. Women supporting women. Women supporting, bald women supporting bald women. I cannot, we weren't bald for the function. I saw the picture and I thought, is it an installed unit? It's an install. Okay. Yeah, it's a unit, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:20 But it's giving though. Yeah, it's giving. You guys, it looks like fucking hair. And can I tell you, it really is completely disguised too. Like I'm looking right at it. It looks perfect. This is like when you see RuPaul up close and you're like, let me clock it.
Starting point is 00:24:35 But you can't clock it because she looks really good. I love to look at RuPaul's everything. The freckles, the eyebrows, the lack thereof. The way she does her eyebrows too, like they're there. Yeah, even her boy drag, her boy drag. Yeah, those brows, yeah, those are good, but not to make a B, you know, apparently she doesn't herself. She does her own boy brows. I believe that. That's what she said. I heard what's the tea is coming back. Is that true? I've heard that rumor too. I heard it from work. I was, I would, did you ever do it? What's the tea? No, you
Starting point is 00:25:04 never did it. They mostly never asked. That's crazy. I did. What do a wasty? No. You never did it? They mostly never asked. That's crazy. I did wasty. I've done it twice. What? Mary. That's wild.
Starting point is 00:25:12 A good old trace. I'm telling you, there's something about me that eight people, eight drag queens have to die that day. Like I will get in there, but it's always like a random fluke. Well, I found out that I didn not know this until someone pointed out recently. I was kind of like, oh, when I was like, I guess it is true. A lot of I get called when a lot of Queens can't do stuff. I did not know this was a thing, but I've done it for Bianca.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I've done it for you. I've done it for me. I trickster in Katya show. I've done it for Monet. I've done it for jinx. No, I don't think I've ever done it for jinx, but I there have been times where like they're like the Queen couldn't do the thing and then- You know why? They're like, who's the next best? Cause you're gonna do it and it's gonna be good.
Starting point is 00:25:50 They're like, who's the next best thing? You filled in for me also when I had my other menti B and you went into that music festival. Didn't you do Outside Lands? Yeah, I did Outside Lands, yeah. Bob, girl. And I did, and I filled in for you when your body exploded from the inside out-
Starting point is 00:26:04 Oh, yes. For that DJ gig. And then I kind of got into it with, what's that lady's name? She's a Latinx singer. She had a huge hit song at the time. I didn't get into her. Oh, did my appendix explode?
Starting point is 00:26:17 What happened? Yeah, you're on a plane, your appendix exploded. For Halloween, it was Halloween. It was Halloween, yeah. And what's her name? Her name is- To this bitch, I'll come over and break those and suck your fingers off, bitch. And what's her name? Her name is um... To this bitch.
Starting point is 00:26:26 I'll come over and break those fingers off bitch. I can't remember this lady's name, but anyway she was... Paula Abdul? No, Paula. There was this lady standing in the doorway and I was trying to get back to my DJ booth because I had to introduce the... Kaliuchi! I had to introduce Kaliuchi and I was like, okay, I was like, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:26:42 I said, pardon me. I was like, pardon me. This lady would pardon me. I was like, pardon me. This lady would not move. I was like, pardon me. And I was like, excuse me. And I had to like move this one with my hand. So I don't know what she had in. I thought it was attitude problems. I thought it was just some lady standing in the doorway.
Starting point is 00:26:56 And I was like, this lady is not moving. And I got to the DJ with all the, okay, now that I've gotten past that weirdo, let me introduce the guest of honor tonight. Give it up for Calliuchi. And that was the woman I was blocking. That was blocking the way. I had no clue. Excuse me, weirdo.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Literally, I was like, I have a job to do. I was like, can you, I'm introducing someone very important. We're honoring someone, you need to move. And yeah, this also famously one time when Layla did my makeup for the Madonna Pride show before I did the tour.
Starting point is 00:27:21 When you are in ears, you really can't. You can't hear anything. I'm telling you, the world's blocked out. They're the most noise canceling anything that ever existed anywhere. Can you guys hear do they do they feed an audience for you for Madonna or no? Not really.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Yeah, not really. It's hard. And when you've ever done if you've ever done a show where you have ears and you have breaks to do stand up, you almost have to pull it out or you can't hear them laughing. I've never done it for stand up, but I have done. I guess I was telling jokes at the beginning of Madonna, but it was, it was so scripted that I was like, there was no time to pause anyway. Yeah. And it was like underscoring too. Yeah. It was in time with music. So I had to keep moving on.
Starting point is 00:27:54 There was one time. So my in-ear feed for the tour was the same as Madonna. We had this. I was hearing what she was hearing and Madonna is singing live and they're, this was crazy. They're they're like talking to you while you're singing. I don't know how she was doing this. Like they'll be like, get ready to blah, blah, blah. And she'd be like Greta Garbo and Monroe, Dietrich and DiMaggio, like dancing and singing. It was, it's a skill you learn over time.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Obviously she's been, she's had years of practice. And, and I remember being like, this is, this will make me crazy. Yeah. Sometimes when I play with the band, we play to click the ears will be like, intro, two, three, four. They'll like, there's a voice that clicks in and be like, verse one, it'll say, you know. But they'll be like, watch out for this person on your right.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Whoop, someone's out of place. It's only that man. But she's just, doesn't miss a beat, keeps dancing. But when you had 40 years of practice, I mean. I saw you guys in Austin and I had that brief cameo in the show and. Your hair caused the scene. It did? Your hair went viral because there's a picture of you from the back with Madonna and your hair caused the scene. It did. Your
Starting point is 00:28:45 hair went viral because there's a picture of you from the back with Madonna and your hair is like the size of Madonna. Yeah, you were really big hair that day was a main here. It was giant. That show was the best show I've ever seen. It's a great. It was a great show. If you missed it, you missed it. But I mean, I like it was great. I was a fan of Madonna's, the guitar playing the singing live singing. I didn't expect it to be so much live singing. It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I always said this, if you're a casual fan of Madonna, I feel like, I like her music. If you go see a show, you will leave a true fan. I'm telling you right now, no one puts on a show like Madonna, Esther, Louise, Chikoni, Veronica, Chikoni. No one does a show like this one. Iman. Iman Dupree Balenciaga.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Yes. Andress. Andress. She was so amazing. I left being like, wow, I just saw the goat. Like, and also as I was watching, I was like, she is also doing the medium that she kind of invented. No, she invented, she invented this theatrical arena tour.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Yeah. She invented it. Before Madonna, it was just like literally you on stage with a band strumming and just like kind of like talking along, but she literally, it is a theatrical, what's she call it in her documentary? It's a theatrical presentation of her artist, something like that.
Starting point is 00:29:57 And it really is that. It was, she's where she is for a reason. There's this one Madonna anecdote from Truth or Dare where she goes like, do something else, do my brows. I say that all the time. Do something else to my brows. Because the makeup artist is trying to do her lips while she's talking.
Starting point is 00:30:09 She's like, do something else, do my brows. My favorite quote from Madonna was from rehearsal. And it was just, there was a scene where someone comes out wearing this coat that she, it's like a replica of her coat from Frozen. And they put the coat on her and then she's singing. But they wear like this morph suit so you can't see their face.
Starting point is 00:30:26 But in the rehearsal, the guy wasn't wearing a mask. I remember that, they were like wearing her outfits. Yeah, no, this was right before that, where she sings, sometimes she sings Frozen, sometimes she was singing, she would always switch this one song, it was like three different songs she was singing. One time she was singing Rain,
Starting point is 00:30:42 anyway, but this person comes out with this huge coat and she's going fan to fan wearing that sparkly Swarovski Versace cat suit with this huge coat with her long hair flowing. And this dancer named Donnie, beautiful, gorgeous man named Donnie was wearing the cat suit with no mask on. And during rehearsal she's like, she looks at him and she goes,
Starting point is 00:31:02 not to be offensive, but like, I don't wanna see his face. And I say that all the time, not to be offensive, but like, I don't want to see his face. And I say that all the time, not to be offensive, but like, I don't want to see his face. I say that all the time. By the way, somebody who looks like him has probably never heard that in their life. And he's stunned. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Like I'll show you a picture of him so you can, should we put the picture on the screen? I think it's funny, I mean, if you guys have followed, you know, Bob or I or Drag Race or all that, what you don't understand is like, Bob used to do Vogue as like one of his go-to lip sync numbers. So do you go from like doing Vogue at Mickey's or industry?
Starting point is 00:31:31 Look how beautiful this man is. Oh my God. I would say I'd like to see his face. She was like, I don't wanna see his face. But for artistic purposes, it actually did make, look at how pretty. Gorgeous, oh gorgeous. I think I saw him in the video of you dancing to my-
Starting point is 00:31:44 Yes, yes, yes. Why do you love that? So I just, you know what it is? What it was that is genuinely not bad choreo, but you weren't in time with the music and it was just so like white guy dancing and like living his life. And I thought, I just thought it was so funny. It's like a jazz run too. It's very stupid. It was just so funny. So then I just became obsessed with it. Then I started getting these professional dancers to learn the choreography.
Starting point is 00:32:10 And they were all like, I want to do it. I want to do it. We did it on stage, on a Madonna stage. Shut up! That's so stupid. We did it in rehearsals and people, I love that fucking dance. You know, other thing you said,
Starting point is 00:32:19 I thought you were making fun of me. I always think that you were like, a great poet once said, Oh, step into the plate. A great said, Oh, step into the plate. A great poet once said, step into the plate. I'm Trixie Mattel. Got my name in the game. Better learn it well cause I'm the MVP heading up to bat and I go to third base, but I never tell that.
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Starting point is 00:38:48 And I'm going to go ahead and say it. I'm going to say it right now. I'm going to say it. I'm going to go ahead and say it. If she wasn't who she is, I think she could be a contender for a great rapper with her lyrics. Sherri Lee Lewis. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:00 No. Kesha. Hear me out. Bob, you love Kesha. I love Kesha. What's your favorite Kesha song? Blow out. Bob, you love Kesha. I love Kesha. What's your favorite Kesha song? Blow. I want to go see Kesha on tour.
Starting point is 00:39:10 And it's pretty common to cry during a performance, at some point during a tour. People cry a lot, right? And I think people would assume that. At Kesha's show? Well, Kesha's. Oh, you mean just in general at concerts? Yeah, at concerts.
Starting point is 00:39:21 I'm going to love this. I was like, people cry all the time at Kesha? So I mean, a lot of people were crying when she sang, praying. I hope you, someone pray. It's beautiful. Yeah, concert. Like I was like people cry all the time at Kesha. So I mean, a lot of people were crying when she's saying, um, when she's saying, uh, praying, I hope you someone pray. That's not when I cried. I cried at the encore when she was like, you're ready for one more. And then she went dance tears. Isn't it embarrassing? I was crying back door, crack. We don't need a key. We good? For free. No VIP suite.
Starting point is 00:39:47 That's so embarrassing. But I was crying. No, I don't think that's- I was so happy for her. I don't think that that's crazy. I have a hard time crying sometimes at genuine moments, but when it comes to film, I just am a easy, like, you know when someone's like, doesn't have sex much.
Starting point is 00:40:01 And so if you even bump into them, they come. That's me emotionally. Cause I don't normally cry, but in a movie, I feel safe because it's all fake, so then I cry. You'll cry during Wicked. Of course, I cry during the musical all the time. There's just one part of Wicked. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:40:16 I don't wanna spoil it. Don't spoil it. But I'm telling you, you'll know the part when you see the part. You'll know the part, not a dry eye. Oh, I'm sitting down and I'm friends with Michaela J Rodriguez from Pose. We just knew each other from New York City and just being you know theater. Oh, MJ Rodriguez. I never knew what the MJ was for.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Okay, yeah. So we're sitting around and and Jacob went to the bathroom. He said, oh just so you know Michaela J is to your right. And I just couldn't find her. So I was looking around. I looked to my left, walking toward me. I'm not one of those folks like, oh, no good, but I don't usually get starstruck. It's Sherrilee Lewis. Sherrilee Ralph. Walking.
Starting point is 00:40:54 What, wait, Sherrilee Ralph? Sherrilee. That's psychic. Walking toward me. I was looking around, I was like, and then my heart started racing. I tell you, I never get starstruck. And it's not because I'm too cool for school.
Starting point is 00:41:06 It's just that, I don't know, maybe I have an adrenal disorder. I just don't get, I don't know, whatever. But she's walking toward me, my heart is like racing. I was like, I don't know what to do right now. This is crazy. Cheryl Lee, she looks as good as she did during Dream Girls, as good as she did during Sister Act,
Starting point is 00:41:21 as good as she did during anything she's ever been in. And she's walking toward me and I was like, I don't, I, I feel like I should, I have to go say something. Yeah. So I walked up to her and I was like, Hey, um, my name is Bob the Drag Queen. And I just want you to know that I love you so much. You're so fantastic. And that's our burning outside. I'm writing a musical. I don't know why I said that. Wow. You know what I love about your name? You can say, if I said, hi, I'm Trixie Mattel, the drag queen, that sounds insane, but your name is Bob the Drag Queen. Bob the Drag Queen.
Starting point is 00:41:46 So it's normal. Yeah. Do you like having your tour buses outside? It's wrapped. Do you like that? I love it. I don't want people to know where I am. Our fans are different.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Well, your fans, yes. I think if my- Katya Nives fans on tour? Oh no, you would never. No, they've gotten on the bus. On Katya's bus, one time someone, you know about this, someone just got on and walked on and she did it so confidently, no one stopped her.
Starting point is 00:42:07 See, my fans, if I'm like, ah, they'll be like, okay, I get it. But like, if you go on tour with a rep, you should rap it like something else, so that no one, like, rap it like Metallica. Actually, no, they got crazy fans there. Oh. Rap is like some-
Starting point is 00:42:22 Like a magga rap. Repel people. There we go, get it. There we go, yes. Put it in a rap like something that. There we go. Get it. There we go. Yeah. Put it in a wrap like that's something that no one like, like money exchange. Yeah. Um, something that would be like, yeah, don't, ugh. What do you think is going to happen to our country? I have a kind of doesn't like to get political and I don't really either,
Starting point is 00:42:38 but you're so smart. Like, what do you think is really going to happen? I'm just really opinionated. I think that is loud. So what's the, I am very loud. What's going to happen? I'm not best for I'm just really opinionated. I think that is loud. So what's the I am very loud. What's going to happen is it is just kind of proven through like any economist worth their weight in nickels that the country does better economically under democratic leadership. It's just it's just true. It is what it is. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:58 So what's going to happen is Donald Trump's tax law will go out of will go out of order. It will be taken off in 2025, which means all these big tax breaks that he was doing, they're going to go out. And then Biden's will probably kick in. I don't know if he'll make one, but he's going to be done. And then things are going to get better. And they're going to think it's something
Starting point is 00:43:16 that Donald Trump did. The way the economy works is the president from before is really affecting what's going on with the president next. That's how it always happens. And it works that way every single time. Things are gonna get a little bit better for a while because of what happened during the Biden administration. And then they're gonna say, see, Trump made it better.
Starting point is 00:43:31 See what Trump did and then Trump's gonna do his thing and then make it worse again. Well, do you know how tariffs work? Terrorists? Terrorists. So Donald Trump's- I was like, terrorists? I don't know how they work.
Starting point is 00:43:41 No, tariffs. So Donald Trump's like, we're gonna do tariffs, tariffs, we're gonna get rid of income tax, we're gonna do tariffs. So a tariff is basically a tax that you put on imported goods. So Donald Trump's like, we're gonna make China pay these tariffs.
Starting point is 00:43:52 But that's not how tariffs work. That's not how tariffs work. They do not work like that. Tariffs are the people buying the shit. Yes, the people who buy tariffs are actually paying what it is. So when the person, when the company buying from China has to pay more,
Starting point is 00:44:05 they're going to turn around and charge you more. So then you will end up paying more because they had to spend more money to get it. Or, or they will say, I don't want to buy from China anymore. So they'll start buying domestic and t-shirts from the United States cost more t-shirts made in the United States cost more than t-shirts made in China because people in America get paid more than people in China. So no matter what, your stuff is going to cost more. It's going to end up costing more. Prices are not going to go down. There's some stuff that we cannot import. We don't grow everything in America. We don't make everything in America. A lot of our wood comes from Canada. A lot of our metal comes from Mexico. A lot of stuff comes from a lot of
Starting point is 00:44:35 places and things are going to go up and it's going to be really messy, really confused. I think that marginalized people are going to come together really strongly. Right now we're in complete discord. Right now the marginalized community is really at each other's throats because of the Kamala Harris loss. And I think that once we realized that everyone's like, we were all being messy, they're gonna get better and they're gonna start doing the right thing.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Yeah, it's pretty bleak. I know we have to be positive, but sometimes I'm also like, this is bleak, it's bleak. But I'm not moving, I refuse. I'm not fucking moving either. I'm sorry, I know that have to be positive, but sometimes I'm also like, this is bleak. It's bleak. But I'm not moving. I refuse. I'm not fucking moving either. I'm sorry. I know that, listen, I know that I'm a rich white man and my level of threat here is not high as some people's.
Starting point is 00:45:14 I'm not fucking moving. And also I'm not gonna stop cross-dressing. I don't care how fucking illegal they make it. What I really worry about, Bob, is I worry that drag and YouTube and podcasts and stuff will be blocked. They'll put it down to the state level. And like in Kentucky, you won't be able to watch ball in the beautiful or sibling. You won't be able to come on YouTube because they'll flag it as porn.
Starting point is 00:45:32 You already can't watch porn in these states. Some of these states, like pornhub does not show up in like some states. Yes. But I think that could happen to drag. And then what? Like those of us who make money doing this and people work with us and make money, well, certain parts of the country can't watch us. There are 40 people behind the camera. There's 47 people. Oh, I missed those seven, sorry.
Starting point is 00:45:52 But also like young gay people where that's their window into like queer culture as maybe like a pod or something. If they can't access it because they live in a state that says that's pornography, that's indoctrination, that's grooming, then what? Like they're already removing all these key terms from anything school related.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Well, Trump just was the video being like, I'm going to ban gender affirming care and gender affirming ideology at any age. At any what? Critical rate, we're just gonna, I guess they're just gonna take the pages about slavery and just cut it out of the book. And no, they will know they like are afraid.
Starting point is 00:46:27 They're gonna do the same shit with like, if you and I put on a wig to them, that means porn and like grooming. So they're like, no block that too. You know what I mean? Actually is already a law on the, on the books in Florida where no one under 18 can see a drag show.
Starting point is 00:46:40 When Katya and I did a show there last year, they refused to let the venue wouldn't serve alcohol because governor... Ron DeSantis. Yeah, yeah, Ron DeSantis, sorry. He called and said that the theater couldn't serve alcohol. So 3,000 people were there for Tristan and Katya show. And if you were at the show, you know, could not even get a beer because what we're going
Starting point is 00:46:57 to get drunk and freak out and groom kit. Like you're telling me that everybody at a kid rock concert gets drunk and acts not crazy. News flash. People get drunk and act crazy. It's part of the kid rock experience. I used to listen to kid rock when I was so upsetting Well, you were a kid and it was I know it was rock exactly I mean I also like the the wrestlers who ended up I used to be a big wrestling fan. You did. Oh my god Did you like sting? No, I
Starting point is 00:47:23 Appreciate it staying the gothy one. But I was really a big fan of Mick Foley, who was a mankind dude, love and Cactus Jack. He plays all those. Dude, love, dude, love was this guy who came out with, he was kind of groovy and he wore tie dye and he would dance around and hit people. Dude, love. Oh, I love that. He played all those characters. Cactus Jack was like a bad ass and mankind was like a deranged mama's boy who was taking out his revenge on the world and dude love was like a groovy fun guy. All played by Mick Foley.
Starting point is 00:47:50 I remember obviously Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair. Ric Flair. Yeah. I remember Sting. Sting. Papa Shango. Yeah. That's about all I remember.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Stone Cold Steve Austin. It was was Andre the Giant part of it? Andre the Giant. Okay. I remember them too. Yeah. Steve Austin. The Rock.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Of course. China. China. Yeah, I guess I do know Yeah, Steve Austin. The Rock. Of course. China. China, yeah, I guess I do know a lot about them. Rikishi. Deep cut, sorry, deep cut. Now you're making it up. The Giant, Paul White the Giant.
Starting point is 00:48:13 How many giants are there? Oh no, the Big Show. Oh, I remember the Big Show. The Big Show. I guess I do know it. That was probably your intro to drag. Low key. Do you think you would do wrestling,
Starting point is 00:48:22 if you could do it all over? I thought I was gonna to go into wrestling. When I was younger, I was like, I'm going to be a commentator or one of the managers. I have to, I was like, I have to get into the WWF. That was like my dream. My dream was to work for the WWF. Like I was, I was, it was, it was the only thing, the only two times my brother ever got into a physical altercation was when he tried to change the channel while watching
Starting point is 00:48:44 wrestling. And I was like, I will stone cold stun you. I will choke slam you. I would have loved for you to be in wrestling because my dream is to watch you get the shape you got on TV. So this could have been a huge role. Would never happen. You think wrestling, somebody the other day said that they think boxing is fake. You think boxing is absolutely punching in the face real? I think for the most part across the board, I think for the most part across the board, boxing is absolutely punching in the face real. I think for the most part across the board. How do you think boxing?
Starting point is 00:49:05 I think for the most part across the board, boxing is absolutely real. But I do think that there have been times in history where a boxer took money and threw a fight. What do you think about Mike Tyson going to fight that Jake Paul fellow? I have never wanted to see someone beat someone up so bad. I saw the billboard on Sunset.
Starting point is 00:49:21 I was like, this is crazy. The last time I was excited about a fight was after a fight. And it was when Mike Tyson bit off Evander Holyfield's ear. Yeah, that was crazy. And I remember I still remember waking up and see reading the headlines in Phoenix City, Alabama, where I was living at the time. And the headline said, if you can't beat them, eat them. And then one one headline said, if you can't fight them, bite them.
Starting point is 00:49:42 And it was such a huge deal when Mike Tyson bit that man's ear off. Because Mike Tyson was getting beat up, and he got frustrated. He just ripped his ear off. And then he still lost the fight. Was he still allowed to box? He was banned for quite a while. Well, I guess when you're in wrestling, which is very physical, I mean, these people,
Starting point is 00:49:58 they're in constant danger. Or sorry, boxing. They're in constant danger of death. Yeah, for sure. You just get punched in the head, then you could just die. Yeah, you could, yeah, you could, yeah. I mean, remember the movie? Rocky.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Simon Birch. Do you remember Simon Birch? What is that? Okay, it's this movie about this boy and the boy's mom is at the Little League game and a foul ball goes in the air and hits the mom in the temple and she dies. That's not boxing. But I'm just saying it's a slight blow to the head.
Starting point is 00:50:27 There was a film, a very famous film, where a boxer punches someone in the head and he dies. Oh. What movie? Rocky! Oh, I've not seen it. I've not seen it. I just watched Pretty Woman. Apollo got punched in the head by the Russian. What's the Russian name? Brigitte Nilsson was dating him in the movie. Oh Russian. What's the Russian name?
Starting point is 00:50:45 Brigitte Nielsen was dating him in the movie. Oh, I know him from Flavor of Life. No, you know, yeah, well, Brigitte Nielsen. Her, yeah. Is a woman. Yeah, sorry. And she was in the movie, I believe, she was dating the Russian, this big Russian guy who was unbeatable and he punches Apollo so hard
Starting point is 00:51:00 that he just dies in the rain. He literally beat him to death. Rocky. And I feel like that was literally what you were looking for when you were like one time. Simon Birch. Simon. The problem is you have to understand,
Starting point is 00:51:11 I grew up somewhere so remote that we didn't even have local channels. So the movies we had were whatever VHSs we ripped off of cable. Would you ever write a memoir? No, too dark. You ever listen to one? You are the darkest memoir. I was like, I was like, I can't finish this. Who is it? Viola Davis's memoir
Starting point is 00:51:32 is, I was literally like walking into Runyon Canyon and I was like, I literally can't listen to this. This is the, this is the saddest story that has ever been told. Damn. Like it was like rats and death and fires and abuse. And it was, I was like, I, how? I couldn't even get through it. I'm sure obviously it ends well.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Clearly. Well, I do feel like when people talk about, especially in LA, like people talk about like being poor, I'm always like, that's such a, I'm like poor in what way? Poor like you only had one sibling in your family could go to private school or poor in like... I got you a big thing with Monet and I don't stand on this anymore because... You fighting with Monet? Because your poor is your poor. But me and Monet just did not grow up the same. We did not grow up in the same, I don't think we grew up in the same tax bracket quite frankly.. You think she's you think she's secret rich? I've always had the money.
Starting point is 00:52:26 I've always said this and everyone in the audience, and that silver spoon, the comment always gets mad when I say this. But if you grew up with Disney Channel, you were low key rich. If you grew up with cable, cable, well, you have to pay extra money to get Disney Channel. Can I tell you what poor people love to do, though? And I know this because I came from it. They love to be like, we're not going to the dentist, but we will be splurging on that cable.
Starting point is 00:52:48 You know what I mean? Like sometimes. We were not, we were not the type. We did not have the money to go, to go watch, to go. We had, we had, we, there was no cable. Yeah. There, I had a few years, I had a few years with cable. There was a few years. Did you write a memoir?
Starting point is 00:52:59 No. I hate typing. Constantine wrote two books and this is crazy. This is crazy. I got an offer to write a memoir. Oh, Tracy, any chance you can grab my... It's on the bookshelf in my studio. So I got an offer to write a memoir in 2020.
Starting point is 00:53:15 And they were like, hey, you want to write a memoir? And I was like, you know, honestly, even if I did write a memoir, I don't think that... I actually genuinely think that my most interesting years are just not here yet. Like I think there's much more interesting stuff to come down the line. And that was in 2020. It's already gotten more interesting since then, quite frankly. And I was like, I think my more interesting stuff is to come. So instead of doing that, I actually want to write this.
Starting point is 00:53:35 I want to write a novel. I actually want to write a fiction novel. So I released my book. It's out for pre-sale right now. You wrote a fiction novel? I wrote a novel. Are you lying? Tracy's about to bring the book in here.
Starting point is 00:53:46 I am not lying. Well, until she walks in here with the book. I won't believe you. I wrote a novel. It's called Harriet Tubman Live in Concert. It is a play about... No, you've talked about doing this as a live play. And I'm still working on the play.
Starting point is 00:53:59 It's called Harriet Tubman Live in Concert. And it's about Harriet Tubman coming back to life and she's continuing her work as an abolitionist through music and she's writing a hip hop album. Shut the fuck up. You really wrote this. Yeah. Harriet Tubman, live in concert and novel Bob the Drag Queen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Are you lying? No, this is not the actual book. This is the cover. I was going to say, I need you to know that. No, but the book, if you go to readthedragqueen.com right now, well, I want them to know this is not the real book. No, that's not- That's not the actual book.
Starting point is 00:54:27 No one knows that, but now you're spoiling it. It's fine. The book is on its way. I don't have an actual copy of the book yet because it hasn't come out yet, but I use this for promotional materials. But it is a real book. You can go to readthedragqueen.com right now.
Starting point is 00:54:38 You can pre-order Harriet Tubman, Live in Concert, a novel by Bob the Drag Queen. I have written, it took me four years to write this book. Tracy, can you vouch have written, it took me four years to write this book. Tracy can vouch for me. It took me four years to write this book. I wrote this book myself. I am very proud of it. I already have amazing reviews written from,
Starting point is 00:54:55 from, from pre-sellers who get an opportunity to say we send the book out. It is, it is a real book. I have written this book. This is crazy. You are fucking nuts. You are really capable of anything. I wrote this while doing, we're here. I wrote this while doing the Madonna tour. I wrote this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Yeah. I'm sick of it. The overachieving bullshit. And when I'm sick of the overachieving, you know, it's bad. Okay. Yeah. So go, go to readthedragqueen.com right now and pick up your copy of Harriet Tubman Live in Concert and blah blah blah with Drag Queen. We met, I will let you go in a second, but we met, I met you on Facebook and I came over, this was like what, 2015? I had just done Drag Race 2016.
Starting point is 00:55:31 I came over to your apartment in New York. 2015, I think I did in 2016. It was your apartment with like the bunk bed, it was like, just drag everywhere. On Amsterdam Avenue, 945 Amsterdam Avenue. Drag everywhere. And there was a little get ready station and I was getting ready for,
Starting point is 00:55:43 I think I had a party with Frankie Sharp. I think so. Yeah. And you had a party, you had your weekly show. Oh, right. Industry. Yeah. And I was getting in drag with you. And so like our first time meeting, I went to her house and we got and get dragged together, which was such like a fun, organic way to get to know each other. And you also, and also Trixie mailed to my house, some roller skates and in your cigar box where you used to sell your own I remember I was putting the merch on the shelf and I was like, I'm gonna sell my merch to you. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:56:07 I'm gonna sell my merch to you. And I was like, I'm gonna sell my merch to you. And I was like, I'm gonna sell my merch to you. And I was like, I'm gonna sell my merch to you. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:56:14 I'm gonna sell my merch to you. And I was like, I'm gonna sell my merch to you. And I was like, I'm gonna sell my merch to you. And I was like, I'm gonna sell my merch to you. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:56:21 I'm gonna sell my merch to you. And I was like, I'm gonna sell my merch to you. And I was like, I'm gonna sell my merch to you. And I was like, I'm gonna sell my merch to you. And I was like, I'm gonna sell my merch to Yeah. Because I don't trust people. And you, but you trusted me enough to mail your stuff to my house and sell it yourself. You seem trustworthy. Yeah, I have the reputation. But I remember I was putting the big black eyeliner on and you stopped and you're like,
Starting point is 00:56:32 what kind of Batman shit are you doing right now? Yeah, I thought you were doing like a thing. I thought you were like, oh, this is going to be, I'm doing like a, I'm turning a look. But then I remember you and I were talking and you had your foundation and you were putting it on and you were like, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. And it was like in movies when they're not watching the road enough. I was like, when is she gonna look in the fucking mirror?
Starting point is 00:56:49 You were putting the makeup on but you were like never looking in the mirror. I was like, is she gonna look in the mirror? I don't, looking at those pictures, I don't know if there was evidence that I ever looked in the mirror at that time. I think I was- What do you think about the discourse of, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:01 your makeup journey? You know, I think that some people, in my humble opinion, I see the criticism from season eight and- Eight was wild, Bob. It was wild, okay, okay, okay. At least I had too much makeup on. You were- In my defense, I was wearing enough makeup
Starting point is 00:57:18 to win Drag Race. Absolutely, absolutely. I had the most makeup on and went home the soonest. So like, there is no rubric there. In my defense. And I was working with. I had the most makeup on and went home the soonest. So like there is no rubric there. In my defense. Um, and I was, I was working with what I had. I was using my, I was working within my skillset to make this happen. Right. And then, um, when I, I was just, I just learned more about makeup, traveling with people getting, I would say tips,
Starting point is 00:57:39 but it was really just getting read by Kim Chi, Naomi Smalls, uh, Asia O'Hara. Um, they're just reading me, but they're like, but not ins, Asia O'Hara. They're just reading me, but they're like, but not in the, it ended up helping, obviously. Yeah. You know, bullying works. At least these people bullying, those three people, I love fucking all their faces. Yeah, they look amazing.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Asia is so beautiful. And then I studied at the hands of Emmy award winner, Laila McQueen. Right. Because she did my makeup for three seasons over here, or two and a half seasons over here. But now there are times where I am doing my own makeup. I do a lot of my makeup most, if it's a live show, I'm usually doing my own makeup. And they'll be like, see, I'm
Starting point is 00:58:14 so glad that Leila, that Bob found Leila. I did my fucking makeup this day. God damn it. That was me. I did that one. I would be afraid of having a makeup artist because I would be afraid that the snatch would be so fierce that then when I do it, people are like, oh. I mean, when Layla does me, it is better than when I do myself. She's a much better makeup artist than I am. She's incredible. She's great.
Starting point is 00:58:35 It's fucked. She's so good. You see what I mean? It's great. She does a really good job, but we can't travel everywhere together. So I do my own makeup, and I've learned a lot from her over the years. And I think I am genuinely stunning. I think a lot of people do not want to acknowledge that I look good these days. It drives me crazy. They're like, well, Bob, don't know what the bomb.
Starting point is 00:58:51 I'm like, no, I look good. No, you look good. I fucking look good. You look good. But also some of the fans who are like, kind of like really just like fans of drag race and not fans of drag, they still, they still think one day is wearing kitty cat wigs. They still think that, um, they, they, they, they, they're blown away that you're not doing what you were doing on your season of Drag Race.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Oh my God. After All Stars 3, I remember somebody ran, Dayla told me somebody ran into her and was like, so what are you gonna do now? Almost like she quit drag. And she was like, I'm still doing it. Yeah, come see me and Jinx on our annual Christmas tour. What are you know?
Starting point is 00:59:24 Yeah. Somebody came up to me in a meet and greet very recently and they came to the meet and greet at my bar in Milwaukee and they said, you're going to do great things. And I said, can't wait. Can't wait to see what that is. We're in my bar, right? Got it. I was like, beer. So you're going to do great things like make me a drink. Let me get a Cosmo barkeep. Bob, your people are well, by the time this comes out, people have an option to see the girls in the UK
Starting point is 00:59:45 Well, how can they see you in the UK? Yeah, if you want to go to see the drag queen calm I love to get a goofy art URL. I think they're so funny. You can go see the drag queen Don't get wicked calm honey. I already got it. You can't see what happened. No, what happened? I don't know. I don't want Mattel to be any more mad at me than they probably already are I'm not a part of it. Well, I want to know what happened though. Well Go to wicked calm. Tell me later. So what I want to know what happened though. Well, go to wicked.com. Tell me later. So I used to do this thing where I would go to Broadway shows. I never did it.
Starting point is 01:00:09 I never did it. But I would go to Broadway shows and I would use my phone. I would Google everyone in the playbills name.com. And I was like, what if someone just bought all these names? They do. So many of them actors did not have, I was like, this is free. They do. When I first got on Drag Race, TrixieMittal.com was owned by somebody else and I flipped out.
Starting point is 01:00:30 And one of my friends in Madison was like, I bought it for you a long time ago because I knew you would need it. Oh, that's sweet. Isn't that sweet? That's sweet. Isn't that sweet? But there are companies, I think it's at Trixie on Instagram is an account. And I tried to get it from them and they want and they said, well, this account means a lot to me, like sentimentally, just a lie. And they asked for $60,000 for at Trixie on Instagram. So you didn't take it? No, but I'm at Trixie on like TikTok and YouTube now,
Starting point is 01:00:55 cause I wanted to be at Trixie, $60,000 exploitation. It is exploitation. I, if you notice on Twitter, I am at that one queen. That's so funny though. That was my name before. That was my name before I even, when I was kidding with Whit, my name was at that one queen. And then someone, someone took at Bob the drag queen and someone has it. And then I wrote them and they were like, they literally wrote back like, haha, I got your name.
Starting point is 01:01:19 I can't stand people. I fucking can't. They're like, LOL. And then on Twitch I am official Bob the drag queen because someone has Bob the drag queen there. Why are people this way? And if you're a fan, why are you doing this? A few webs, a few apps will help you get your name back. Like, like someone took Bob the drag queen on, on a tick tock. And then they were like, if you can just prove that you're Bob the drag queen, we'll,
Starting point is 01:01:41 we'll get rid of that. We'll just take it from the other person. So I was like, yeah, I am Bob. I say, I don't know how I came up with that. It's me. I swear to God, it's me. So on TikTok, I am at Bob the Drag Queen. Well, I used to get banned from Grindr for cat fishing, and I would have to send an ID picture of myself. Literally, they're like, send me your driver's license. No, dead ass.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Yeah, Grindr has my driver's license information. Spears. Isn't that wild? It's wild that you have a license. It is. Do you have a license. It is. Do you have a license? I'm trying to get it.
Starting point is 01:02:08 I'm trying to get it. You don't have a driver's license? What are you trying to get it? Well, I stopped driving at 25 because I moved to LA. You can get a makeup company, you can't get a fucking driver's license? I got to go take the test. Yeah. That's easier than starting a makeup company.
Starting point is 01:02:20 You ain't go take the test. You just get out of there, get in the car and you drive. Sadly, I'm better at making blush than I am at driving. So we'll see what happens. You don't seem like a good driver, to be honest. That's so true. Yeah, you don't seem like a good driver. Well, catch Bob before I hit her with the car. I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Yeah, go to seethedragqueen.com to see me. Let me read out some dates I'm doing in the UK. Please, plug yourself. You all can see me on tour in the UK. Is that the Google Pixel 9? Yes, the Pixel, yeah. It's so nice. Yeah, it's a good phone.
Starting point is 01:02:48 I mean, it's like great videos. I feel like Scorsese. It's nice. And I'm not getting paid by them. I know you and Monet got paid by them. I'm just so... I don't know why you guys didn't call me. Monet's an avid iPhone user.
Starting point is 01:03:01 She bastes Samsung and Android all the time. Monet's such a liar. I hate that bitch. Monét literally bastes androids nonstop on the fucking podcast and then she gets a fucking deal. And I'm literally like, I'm right here. Isn't that crazy? Literally, so fierce.
Starting point is 01:03:17 I did do that Samsung thing at one time. Yeah, that was but but I mean, I must have been busy that day. Brussels, Oslo, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Helsinki, Berlin, Zagreb, Amsterdam, Cologne, Hamburg, Paris, Warsaw, Dublin, Belfast, Glasgow, London, and Manchester. And we added a show in Zagreb because the sh- it was like, the show sold out so fast. They added a show, one or two shows in Zagreb. Go see Bob. This is a woman in her prime at the height of, of her current state of her career and
Starting point is 01:03:44 it will get bigger and bigger. But I mean, people gotta see you now. I love when people go, oh, I saw you now. And like, you know, people are like, I saw you 10 years ago. Like we are approaching that point where people are like, oh, I saw your first tour. You know what someone made fun of me
Starting point is 01:03:57 for not deleting my Facebook the other day? And I said, Facebook has been archiving my life for literally 20 years. It might be the most archival, like I don't think I've ever been more well documented because of Facebook. Like I have pictures of me from my freshman year of college. Oh yeah, like I'm not gonna go there for my news,
Starting point is 01:04:15 but I don't wanna get rid of like albums I put up when I was in high school. 20 years, I have pictures from high school. You're not that much younger than me. How old are you? You are that much younger than me. I'm 35. I'm 38. Yeah, I mean, I got Facebook in like 10th grade because it had just started.
Starting point is 01:04:30 High schoolers could get it. Yeah, yeah, I remember. I was in it when it was like you had to be in college. Yeah. But you can go see me on my website and get a ticket. See the drag queen.com. I will be in a town near you. This is honestly probably my funniest show.
Starting point is 01:04:42 I hope you're free on the 14th to come see it. If not, I understand. But I will be here in town in town. I didn't take time to do your podcast. Okay. Bye. Today's episode of Ballin' the Beautiful is sponsored by Airbnb. Y'all, the holidays are upon us. I have to tell you guys, I had not been to Wasaki, Wisconsin in so many years since pre COVID. And I went up there last month. And of course my whole family moved to Milwaukee. You guys know, I bought my mama house and so everyone lives in Milwaukee now.
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