The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - Bosco and Goblin Drag Prerequisites with Katya

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

In alignment with Bald, LLC's ongoing corporate initiative to foster dialogue in the fields of glamour, aesthetics, and brand synergy, SVP of Novelty T-Shirts Katya Zamolodchikova is pleased to engage in a high-level dialogue with esteemed guest, the one and only Bosco. This executive board-sanctioned exchange will address key sectors including adhesive textile engineering, gender-affirming massages, and the complex macroeconomics of the Brazilian Butt Lift. Further discussion points include goblin-mode operations in post-drag environments, the strategic portrayal of “nice lady” energy, and the physical logistics of maintaining optimal sheen while executing vigorous exercise beneath a stifling wig. All of us here at corporate headquarters in Delaware extend our deepest gratitude to all the listeners for their continued compliance, lubrication, and sparkle. Need a website? Head to Squarespace.com for a free trial, and when you’re ready to launch, you can save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain by going to: ⁠https://www.SquareSpace.com/BALD⁠ Find your fall staples at Quince! Now available in Canada, too! For free shipping on your order and 365-day returns, go to: https://Quince.com/BALD Work on your financial goals through Chime today. Open an account in 2 minutes at: https://Chime.com/BALD To get simple, online access to personalized, affordable care for ED, Hair Loss, Weight Loss, and more, visit: https://Hims.com/BALD Follow Trixie: @TrixieMattel Follow Katya: @Katya_Zamo To watch the podcast on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/TrixieKatyaYT⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out our official YouTube Clips Channel: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/TrixieAndKatyaClipsYT⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you want to support the show, and get all the episodes ad-free go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://thebaldandthebeautiful.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be amazing! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out future Live Podcast Shows, go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://trixieandkatyalive.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To order your copy of our book, "Working Girls", go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://workinggirlsbook.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out the Trixie Motel in Palm Springs, CA: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.trixiemotel.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Listen Anywhere! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   Follow Trixie: Official Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.trixiemattel.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@trixie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter (X): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   Follow Katya: Official Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.welovekatya.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/welovekatya/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Twitter (X): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠    #TrixieMattel #KatyaZamo #BaldBeautiful Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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host. Hi, divas. We are going to be doing our final live bald shows of the year. November 9th will be in Tucson, Arizona. That's right. We only go to the desert in the winter. And on November 13th, we'll be in Honolulu. Oh, baby. Get your tickets now at tricksy and Katya.com. It goes without saying that I have full body chills for our guests today. Neither of us are are bald. One of us is beautiful, and I'm going to try to, I'm going to try to restrain my lecherous, pervert, proclivities,

and have a civilized conversation with our guest. I'm going to try. She's a woman of grace and dignity, but she also happens to be one of the hottest horrors ever produced by God himself. Please welcome Bosco. Thank you. I don't know if God.

I can take credit for this. I'm going to have to give some of it to Dr. Lou. It's God. Okay. It's God, no. Sure. So how are you doing? First of all, thank you for coming.

How are you doing? I'm so good. I'm so good. I'm so good. Not really. That hamburger marries WeHo last night and had to wake up and get in drag. And we've done that for like four days in a row. Hamburger.

Double seating. Weho. Weho. Not the most glamorous stage set up. Stage set up. There's no stage. There's no stage. There's tables.

There's a little. Glenolium. Okay, so what do you feel about, do they have like a, do they have a pole or there's like a spiral staircase? There's a spiral staircase. They need a pole. That would kind of be fun. Like fireman style. Just like, that's how the girls get down? And then a motorized one to bring you back up. Okay. I was just like how do we get the lunch job? Like bean you up. Um, yeah. How do you feel about dinner drag? Um, it is not my sport. Um, but I do like money. Yes. And I do like hanging out with the LA girls. And the only way you can hang out with the LA girls is by working. Working. Yeah. No one's going to go out. No one's going to hang out with you ever. So you have to, like, find ways to just work with them. The only way to fratignize with fucking drag queens is if there's money. Exactly, if you're gigging with them. So we did that. That's like, I call her all the time.

She's like, I don't hear dollar signs. It's not sponsored by it. So what numbers did you do? What numbers did I do? Okay. I did, um, I did, um, eaten alive by Diana Ross. It is, um, back in the 80s when she used to do a lot of cocaine. You can hear like the bass player sniffling on the track.

It's great. It's ferocious and mean. and I stole the entire number from Monica Monroe who was Continental in 93 And she a black woman She was not Okay she was not She was a white lady with a larger nose

So just like me And it's great Okay Just making sure we're not stealing from black folks No but I think she might have stole it from black lady That's true Who's to say I'm not I'm personally not doing that

Wait did Diana Ross or Donna Summer Diana Ross Okay What other numbers did you did I did Amy Winehouse You know no good And I got very naked to that one And then we like crawled over the tables

and poured water on ourselves because our last costume is like a swimsuit. Hot, wet, tits. Damn. So talk about nudity on stage. Is there ever, is it, what's the process, what's the prep?

Is there anxiety about like slippage? What's going on there? So I have things down to a pretty well-oiled science, I would say. Oiled? Oiled. Lots of different adhesives. I use carpet tape. Okay.

Which is like an industrial double-sided tape. And that holds on pasties, that holds on bitch and bobs. Yep. Um, we have the vinyl tape that everybody loves to like sling, sling the bits back. Okay, that's that clear, that clear. A little bit of stretch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I know that one. Courtney uses that to, to, to, to form whatever the fuck she thinks is a pussy. It's truly horrifying, truly horrifying. You're up there close to taking notes. If you've seen it up close, it's the terrifier. Um, it's, uh, and then, and then do you like, have you had malfunctions? I'm sure you've had malfunctions. Absolutely.

How do you do with those? If you're already that naked, how much shame can you? can you possibly have left if, like, your nipple falls out or you have, like, a little bit. Did you ever get in trouble? I have not gotten in trouble for it, even though there's been, like, some side-nut city limit situations where a little bit of spillage. But here's the thing. If the local law enforcement happened to, like, roll up on the joint, you think that they're going to arrest you?

No, no. They're going to get a rock, hard, too, mess, and boner, and they're going to let you go. Pocelino dos. They can have, they can have it all. What did you just say? Um, why not both? Oh, in a Spanish. Yes.

You're so learned. Oh, woman of the world. world with these shoes. One thing that I have noticed, though, is I've been getting a lot of gender affirming misogyny from different states. I thought you were going to say gender affirming massages. That's too. They just go in.

They just massage the boom. That is the woman. X. Oh, yes, yes. Double Ds. Good for you. Why not? Let's just ditch the misogyny and just go to gender affirming massages.

I think we could start something like that. So what would happen? Oh, just like, it. In certain states, I have to wear more clothing than boys who are doing the same thing as me. And, like, in certain states, there will be drag queens that have to be, that can be less covered up than I have to be because I have female presenting breasts. And it's honestly very affirming, but also just very annoying. Because, like, when you shift over enough into, like, girlhood, womanhood, you find that the state is all up in your business all at the time. Girl, it's like, get that government out of my pussy.

Absolutely. Get that Somebody should put that on a t-shirt Yeah Excuse me Congressman Why do you have your whole body Up my coochie hole

Why are you feeling up on my titty's? Feeling up I'm a titty Well it's a gender affirming Massage He's the one that's actually doing it So it's his job I'm tipping him Well you know what back in the day

When the girls used to get injected With who knows what That was a very gender affirming massage Absolutely When they have the rolling pin To like get it out of the Crazy shit Don't do that

Don't do that Don't do that anymore. If you can... It looks really good. If you don't do that. It looks incredible. It's painful. It's cheap.

You're going to love it. There's no recovery time. You leave the hotel and you go immediately to the game. Exactly. You have to do this number on the plane. Seriously. You're in economy comfort, just standing. Just lurk.

Your heads underneath the cabinet. Girl, I mean, I have friends. I have trans women friends who, you know, my age or older. you know, back in the day, they went to Dr. Bob, like, heavy quotations on the doctor part. And, you know, they got injected with hydrogel or whatever, you know, these like experimental fillers for creating womenly shapes. And just got ran on a plane. Got right on a plane halfway across the world from Thailand. Crazy.

Leaking. Leaking. Yeah, you have to wear the little stockings and like the super glue it shut. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Nothing but the finest. It's crazy. No, I, in a moment of weakness, I did come this close. Didn't do it.

Don't do it. Sure, it's very, it's very seductive. But it's just like the siren song for like all trans women. Because like there's not a huge amount of good options to like pat out the hips, especially if you're skinny. You can't really do like a BBL situation. Well, also BBLs, even when performed by a doctor. BBL are really, really dangerous.

They're super dangerous. Even when performed by a very, by a very good doctor with, you know, in the United States America, they're very dangerous. They're very dangerous. Blood clots and all that. What do you, how do you, how do you? Get pumped. how do you like i'm just trying to think about the historically the inclusion of

or the introduction of trans women into drag into the drag race universe and um you know before that it was kind of like a there there seemed to be like a pretty like hard reticence to kind of go that route why do you think why do you think that happened what what softened do you think what do you what do you chalk that up to if you if anything i think a lot of it is like figuring out, like, when Drag Race first came around, it was the first thing ever like it to be on television that kind of, like, went that big. And I feel like they wanted really clearly

to find boundaries, which is not something that you really get with gender and drag. And they tried to make it the thing where it's just like, oh, they're like, a boy during the day, but they're a girl at night. When most, like, professional drag queens are weird little gremlins that are never either any of the time. Hell it, girl.

So, yeah, I feel like they really wanted that, like, They wanted the... The division... The separation of church and states. Yes, yes, yes. And they needed that. They needed the two branches of the government for cross-dressing.

And trans women don't fit very neatly in that. And it was just kind of hard to explain and, like, sell, I imagine. Which is, I mean, which I mean, I know a lot of trans women. And I know most of the trans women I know don't wear top and bottom lashes to go to the bank.

You know what I mean? I don't see, like, looking at it now, it's like, I... Especially because a lot of, like you said, a lot of the contestants, even if they're just identify as cis guys, they got no brows. They got their legs are shaved. Yeah, they got the crilics. It's very, it's very, it's giving, it's giving very like in between. There was a drag queen back home called Misery with a Z great drag name.

And she was, during the day she was just. One woman showed would be like lay misery? Yeah. That's how good. I mean, braids down to her butt like, like, like six. cinch um yeah Panamanian Panamanian Panamanian

and um just like very very not very um is it M and is it F we don't know we're we were too afraid to ask you know what I'm yes yeah but you know but if I like I couldn't have walked into season two with these shoes in this wiglet no no they're gonna be like

get out of her get out of her you bitch oh my god this is a place for men but do you know these girls start wearing pieces in the confessionals I love it too I love it I want the glute on lace brows

Oh the Brooklyn Heights special I want the full on like Bob Barker rug Like I want the whole boy Like drag fantasy My favorite is when the hairpiece Is under the wig cap Mary under the wig

That You just read my mind If I were to go back If I were to go back on drag race You just read my fucking mind I would take I would be so annoying about a plumb

lying my wig cap. Oh, absolutely. And I was out, out. Oh, God, it's so, ooh, ouch. Oh, my God. And I guess I have to pin it in. And I would tape it too, just because, you know, and then I would gel the hair. And I would just be like, what are you talking about?

I'd be in full, full denial. You're like gluing down the hairline. Like, I need to make sure that I don't rip any of it out. Oh, my God. I would be glue sticking. Glue sticking. I love the girls that do that where all of this is completely glued down. I mean, well, I mean, imagine I can't even, I've never been able to

over late. I've been bald since I was like fucking three. but like to have a hairline like Teresa Judice where they need to glue stick half of their fucking hair. Otherwise the wig doesn't fit on. It's so fierce. Love it.

What is the worst part about getting into drag and what is the best parts about getting into drag? Ooh. These days. Once it's all on and you see yourself in the mirror

or like to yourself in the reflection of like the car window you're like okay. Yeah. That's nice. That's very, very pussy. That's very lovely. The worst part?

Well, is there, is there a moment where, like, for me, it's the lips. The lips, and then for me, contacts? Oh, you wear contact eyes. So I, um, wear, like, a light- These are contacts? They are. They are in aid. Really?

Yeah. Yeah, we can do this thing. Holy shit. Those are so natural. Thank you. I really like them. And, for me. They're fabulous.

I would never have known. They don't have, they're not, like, we were contacts back in the day. They were like, the, the, the, the coconut trees, ice blue ones. Or, like, Trixie, those, like, bright blue, fucking. robot things. Oh, those were scary. I like that. They're super scary. Do you remember one? For no reason, Sasha Colby's just wearing them for like a reunion look. You're like, mother, mother, mother, mother. What's wrong with your eyes?

Um, but I, I don't feel like those are, those are cunt. I really like them. What, what colors that? It's like an icy gray or something. Damn, bitch. They, they make me get, um, Decio. Decio's the brand that makes them. FTA approved. Probably, they're based out of Italy. Who's to say? Well, the contact. The contact? The lashes. The, the, oh, Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay, because sometimes I'm like, I don't know if I believe it.

I don't know if I believe in it. And then the moment the lashes and the contact's going, I'm like, no, no, no, I'm here. Oh, yeah, yeah. I always believe, absolutely. I'm like, I'm going to match. Like, we're good. Is there, there is, like, during the transformation process, like, for me, there is, like, if I'm really not wanting to get into drag and I'm not, like, if I'm super tired, it can,

and I struggle to get to that pussy point. And sometimes if I don't ever get there, the night is a, love. It's a bust. I can't do it if I feel like I had the like true blue like traveling girl nightmare earlier this week where I get to the gig and my suitcase does not and it is the suitcase with my hair and my makeup. I have to use like my out of drag makeup and Chanel's makeup for the Vegas gig, the one at Piranha, which is a marathon of a night and like a hundred person meet and greet and you're like, okay. Now everybody's going to see me at my fucking worst. Thankfully, FFS, really, really cool. I would recommend that to all the girls.

I was going to say, everybody gets your work done. It's not a dog show even without lipstick. No, I just looked like a nice lady. Like, we didn't... Take a picture with a nice lady. This really tall lady just walked in, and now you can meet her for only 50 bucks. And we just kind of went with that.

It was fine. It was truly fine. Nice lady. What a great name. Wait. Nice lady. That's a nice lady. Yeah.

Up next to the stage. Nice lady. The worst part about putting makeup, though, is multiple light sources. When, like, you're getting, like, a light source from, like, the window to the side and all the texture and sins are revealed. Mary. Getting in drag in the morning, such as I just did, really, really humbled you. That was a big, I don't know about you, but for drag race, that was a huge, I've never done that. I had never gotten in drag at 6 a.m.

Fuck it. It's terrible. It was a huge. Ungodly. The nerves of being there was the only thing that helped wake me up. like scraping, like shaving the, I mean, I have a, I have a very, very heavy beard. Like, oh, God, it was rotten. And, but these days, like, I prefer it because then you're like, you can be in bed by 8 o'clock.

I'm just a night person. Yeah. I'm a night person. And, like, I also enjoy drinking when I'm in drag. Okay. And I don't like day drinking very much. Yeah. So I like everything being later.

I also like being naked on stage. Naked during the day is a little trashy. It's a little trashy, and like, that's not me. That's not who I am. It's a little desperate. It's a little desperate. I was like, come on. Come on.

Too much. So that's not my truth. This episode of The Bald and the Beautiful is sponsored by Airbnb. Last spring, I took an impromptu vacation and wandered to a secluded island retreat in the shimmering Pacific Ocean. It was a place I found on Airbnb where, palm trees whispered in the breeze and the horizon resembled liquid gold at dawn. While sipping my coffee on the beach one morning, I had an epiphany. My own home could welcome travelers of its own while I'm away. Why should I let its velvety comfort sit idle when I could

host it on Airbnb? I could share every mysterious corner and moonlit balcony while I journey across the globe and earn extra income to fund my dreams, such as the bathroom remodel I've long imagined, a glorious multi-jetted stone shower in a black toilet as dramatic as can be. Hosting on Airbnb is practical and above all else, smart. Whether you're off to Fashion Week in Milan or a quiet Mountain Hamlet in Europe, you too could host your home on Airbnb. Let your home earn for you while you chase your horizons and perhaps finally build that magical bathroom of your most exquisite dreams. Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at Airbnb.ca slash host.

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I did the pit stop on the first, I think it was the first episode of the episode. It was. And then I hung back to like watch some of the second episode because I was just like, I got to see more of this shit. that I that look that I was a bad one yes with the flat top in the in the fucking the the the strip that it was how did that how did that come about I just got me and my friend doodle up all of my costume ideas

and like we just had little doodling parties and that one were just like randomly floated out last moment I'm just like I don't know like what if the tie is a thong what if the tie is a slingshot and then we just kept them like cleaning that up and going with it And it ended up very, like, Tim Burtony and very, like, Nickelodeon and, like, Max Headroom kind of came in. It was a ton of different references, but it wasn't, and it was, I loved it because it wasn't, like, it seemed like it was like an amalgamation of a lot of different kind of references that was a, it's very much became its own thing. Like, it was so cool. I was just like, damn, that is so fucking cool.

And it was, and it was, had the potential to be not flat. Oh, absolutely. And you look to... Like, that hair, not many people could get away with that hair. I love a challenging hair. I do. I love a challenging wig. Absolutely.

You really have to have, like, face for it. You have to have the confidence. You have to go for it. You have to go for it. And my favorite with the comments were like, is she wearing a silicone body suit? I'm like, nope, that's all me. That's... That's...

That's... I want to see her birth certificate. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if I'm buying it I'm like you should have That's fierce That's the ultimate compliment What about plastic's fucking weird ass

fucking um Not weird It's not weird It's just Bizarre It's not weird It's freaking Yeah

That is so wild She wears a Oh her little corset thing Her fucking The prosthetic corset thing The belly The whole whole thing I'm like

I know that corset's so fucking tired of her Like it's just like It's like a cow That's like milked Milked dry. Everidge is like, Mama need some new content. We're going to put it on the corset.

Going to fool the straights again. It's so crazy. It's cunt. I cannot imagine the amount of confused boners that that pop up from viewing her TikTok. Oh, I'm sure because she's the most followed person in the world at this point. And like, it just keeps on working.

And the fucking nerve of that fucking cunt. Stolen valor. Stolen valor. Get on hormones. Mary. Transition. Chop your legs off. Chop your legs off.

Chop your legs off. Chop your dick off. Pin your ears back. Come on. Get a nose job. Make yourself ugly. Because I have no patience for her to look like the most handsome, young, clear skin, well-adjusted, bright. Fresh, yanked, beautiful.

Yeah, beautiful guy. And then she does a fucking kick. She throws a shoe or whatever the fuck they do on TikTok. And then it's all like, and then it's like Marvel movie magic. And then she's like a show, like a goddess from like heaven. It's like, what the fuck. Pick a lane. Pick a lane.

I think Crystal Versace over in the UK She won like season three or something She's like you should be sacrificing something for drag You should look like a fucking little goblin out of drag Or transition Those are your two options Or moves or both Or just get out of my face

Absolutely Get off social media Stop making so much money on TikTok You bitch I'm so mad No it's crazy Out and in drag I'm like

I love it when the girls look like a, like a guitar pick because they're so pumped. Oh, baby. And, like, she, like, doesn't even have, like, super pumped face. She's just put. You would never, in a million years, know that that beautiful young man is, is not third year at law school. He's just, like, you know what I mean?

He's like, what a, I graduated summa cum laude from Duke, you know, full ride. And then just goddess. I hate him. Her. Both of them. I don't believe I've ever had them. I don't believe I've ever met her because if I do,

I would have to beat the shit out of her. Absolutely. It will be, they'll be, she'll have to catch these hands and these shoes. And those shoes and heavy shoes. Do we know what the fiancee does? Oh, there's a fiance? There's a fiance.

Okay. It was also beautiful. And I'm just like, we're hoarding the wealth there in a very serious way. In a very serious. Yeah. There's got to be some kind. There's got to be.

What's the catch? There has to be a huge, huge catch. It's got to be, I don't know. That's so, that's so frustrating. I know what you say, but the tricks and I joke all the time about it's like, you've got to be a goblin on a drag. It's like drag is for goblins. It's like the law of like equivalent exchange. Like you have to be able to give something to get something.

If you want to be a beautiful woman, you know crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's a lot of times it's the eyebrows. Absolutely. You know what I mean? I only, I shaved my eyebrows for a time and Mary. Oof. I did it for a year and I'm like, my boyfriend almost broke up with me.

He's like, you can't do it. You can't do it anymore. It is. first of all, I quickly realized that eyebrows do serve a very important, important purpose. They catch sweat. Oh. Yeah. You're a sweaty gal.

Oh. Yeah. And the first time I shaved my eyebrows was for a solo show that I did not rehearse with shave eyebrows. And 10 minutes in, all the glitter eye shadow is running down my face. 10 minutes into the show and I'm like flipping out. And so that never happened. And also, I never knew.

I never learned how to like. you know draw them on in the correct place so no and then you look like way too cunty going to the bank and like it's just it's too much and I'm yeah during the day I'm not a person that wants to wear makeup I mean this is this is I feel like this is as far as I'll go but like I got microbladed which was extraordinarily painful

but it was worth it like the little like scalpel dealia and they take a scalpel they slice you They jam ink in it And then they slice it again And then jam more like a little exacto knife Oh yeah Oh yeah And it's like nonstop

And it goes on forever and it hurts so bad But it looks good It actually I do like it a lot And it makes me like able to shave Like almost half of them and not look like Oh you're a nub queen Yes Nubs

Yeah yeah yeah for the most part Yeah and also I don't have like I just try to I just try to like distract people with the mouth I think like a bright red lip You can get away with some Really really big nonsense Also like I love bangs I know some drag queens hate bangs

I love bangs I love bangs I think they're so feminine And pretty and cute I love bangs I love bangs and a pony Like I just I love bangs Like I love

Like bangs that almost go down to like Where you don't even really need Lashes And then yeah it's just bangs And then a big old fucking red lip That's all you need What are you wearing

What's this lip color? The fenty. The fenty lip stuna. Oh. Paint in uncensored. She's my favorite red lip. It's like a blue red, which is what I need because like a warm tone red makes me look crazy because I'm really, really pale. Well, same.

I do blue red. My favorite red of all time is Nars, don't stop. Okay. Have you ever tried it? Is it a liquid? It's a liquid. I love it. I love it.

You will love it. Do you know about the lip lacquer moment? The gaga, the lip lacquer? No, I don't. What is this? It's like a gloss that dries... No, it's a gloss that dries down mat. So like... Well, that's what this is. That's what this is. Oh, it looks like

high shine. No. Okay. I see. So it's... Wait, wait. Nothing like that. But, but... Wait, it's a glass that dries, but stays glossy. Yes. But so it's not matte. It's not matte. It looks like you have lip gloss on, but it doesn't transfer. But she just stopped making it. And I want her dead for that. I don't believe.

Oh, it's incredible. I think I'm like a little bit left in my bag I'll show you up for this. You have to show me because I'm on the only thing I'm I think of lip glass that horrible shit from that you remember lip glass oh yeah yeah it's very shiny but it comes oh and and God forbid you have one piece of hair that flies into that face and nope nope nope it's a rap gloss is only for like photo shoots and updews that's it yeah yeah photo shoot that's it photo shoot because like you can't eat you can't really talk and then you get like the little like wavy line like you do what did on your

the first time you went on drag race what was something that you spent a lot, like, was there anything that you focused on in your preparation that you found out later was totally pointless? For me, I'm just going to say it was stoning stuff. Stoning does not matter for television. It really doesn't.

I wish somebody would have told me. I tell all my friends who are auditioning and be like, don't bother, bitch. Like a sequin or like a really like say something fabric. Yeah. That's the move. Yeah. I only had like three weeks to get ready.

first season and I had no money so everything was just kind of like let's let's make sure it all works yeah um I worked on a lot of different like sewing patterns because I'm not a seamstress I like just wanted to make sure that I no interest how to do it none none and in fact I hope I never have to sew again I'm so over it like I don't care I don't know I don't know I love it when the girls do it yeah love it when a girl can do it I have no desire to and I will not well that's me with hair absolutely that's I I can do human hair, synthetic. I'm never going to learn.

I don't want to. Nope. I have no interest. I will, if Fina's not around, if somebody's not around, I will go out with a loaf on my head. Boom. See, that's, but that's cunt though. Thank you. It's like a $12 wig from Amazon, a little Amazon anime wig.

And you just ball it up. Absolutely. But yours is human. It is human. And look at these roots. Aren't they convincing? I am obsessed to afford these at home. Yeah.

I make a confession. Please. I put this on. wet it. I put on a weird, sexy outfit and I work out at home in front of the mirror. Oh, I love that. Sometimes I did the shoes today. It's a very American psycho. Such a crossy. Such a crossy.

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Yeah If you're not chubbed On the main stage No Absolutely And they're gonna check Rupal's gonna check for you Gender-affirming massage.

Exactly, exactly. But like I have been asked, I mean, I'm not bragging, I swear to God. But I have been asked over the years if I do like another All-Star season. And I'm like, dude, no, I could never even dream of sourcing even, never mind making, sourcing an outfit that's even anywhere near the level of production or of what do you ever call it, the level of, um, quality that everybody's wearing. I, I would get that list and kill myself. Well, we all kind of want to do that, too, like when we get the list.

It's just, like, how is that, what did you do? What was it, like, did you scramble? Were you anxious? Like, what was the process? Who did you call? Everybody. The thing is, like, designers are so hard to work with right now. Like, there's so many seasons happening concurrently.

So every designer is just like, like, you got a waiting list. Yep. Waiting list. They're all just, like, tired. They're picked over. They don't want to do it anymore. So it's like, you're, like, bartering in you. you're begging, you're like, please, please, I can't sew, take care of me.

Yeah. It was nice for this season because we only had to worry about like three runways at a time, which was fabulous. What does that mean? The bracket situation. What the fuck was this? Did you like this bracket? No, not really.

Not really. I, well, brackets, this ain't March Madness. It was kind of nice for that reason where I'm like, I only have to prep three runways. Yeah. That's cool. I only have to make sure that I do good for three episodes at a time. But it's so much work and so much money. And I'm like, I'm only on TV.

for six episodes. I was going to say, Mama, we need to see more of Miss Bosco. I would love to be seen more. Why would you deprive the world of so much hard, hard boners? Absolutely.

Painfully hard. Bona. Like hanging from a with one hand from a cliff off these boners, they're so hard. Like sliding down the hill and then grabbing with one hand on that boners.

One finally managed her hand. Because Bosco's right there. Absolutely. I think that's beautiful. Yeah, I think it worked out because I didn't have to do as much TV as a regular season. My what?

Oh, baby, let's look at some pornography. Now, we gotta be extra descriptive for the people on the 405, the 110, and the two. Okay, this was, okay, so I don't know if we can probably, yeah, we'll put it in post. This is when I knew you were that bitch. This is when I knew you were that bitch. You sent me a message after seeing that.

You're like, I'm so sorry for what. you're about to see. I'm gonna get really weird here in a second and I just want to give you a heads up. A week before the bit stopped. Like aired, I'm like, oh. Poor Joe, the producer is like, Joe called, Joe talked to me as well.

Please, shut up. You need to see what Kachia was doing on this episode. Double fisting her boner is what she was in. She was, as every other person who was viewing it, they were stroking it. Had to. Just kidding. Had to.

This is just, I love it so much because, Like I said, it's, it's so clean, it's so interesting, it's so unique. I can't really, it doesn't make me think of another queen. I love that. You know what I mean? Which is hard these days. At this point, it's impossible. The only queen I think who could ever get away with something similar was maybe detox.

Oh. What a great queen to be. And she's got taste. She's got, that bitch has fucking taste. She's got taste. And this, Mary, this Elvira. Was this when, when would RuPaul say, I hate you? Oh, that was with the other.

A few times. With the Maryland, with the, yeah, yeah. I love that. That is the ultimate compliment. It felt incredible. I'm like, yes. And then I'm like rub your face in it. Thanks, Dad.

Like, I said, fuck, she's, I'm, I love Rue. I do. I love her, I think she's so cool. I do too. I think she's so cool. She really is. And her fucking, we were talking, me and Bob were talking, or I don't know what we were talking about her Instagram earlier.

My God, have you been, have you been catching up with Ruth's Instagram? Oh, her, like, video content. She's incredible. She's having a renaissance. How is she so. good at so many things. I think she's sober, that's how. Yeah. And

extraordinarily wealthy. Yeah, very, very wealthy. Very, very talented and sober. Oh, bitch, this one. How the fuck tits and slits. This, by the way, when I saw that runway, I'm like, well, I think I got this one. Oh, no. What am I going to do? I would have,

that's when I would have took the gun, and I would have killed myself. This was so, and again, it's Like, so how did you come up with that? What was the thought process? Was this the first, like, walk me through it. Absolutely, absolutely.

I like having, like, a little, like, weirdness and, like, horror to the, like, touch of things. So, like, I wanted something zipper-esque, like, that feels slits to me. Sure. And I'm not expected way to go with it. And then I really want to do something that was, like, birth of Venus, the, like, Muglaire Venus dress situation. And this is kind of where we ended up going. We're like, wait, what if we take it into a different color? What if it's, like, a motocross jacket?

What are the different details that we can do to, like, take it? to a place that we haven't seen yet because unfortunately Plastique had just done her version of the same silhouette the moment I like got to studio with this like her episode aired of her wearing it. She was just wearing a white

beautiful pearl. Just a stupid white thing that bitch. It was beautiful and incredible. It was a it was essentially the same silhouette but in white and covered in pearls. It was gorgeous. Mine was better. This is the last thing I'll say about Plastique is that every time when I saw her get on the runway, I was like, why doesn't everybody

just quit? Yeah. Why does why does everybody have a job? Why does anybody have a job? Why does anybody have a job? Why is anybody still breathing? When she walks out in the runway, I was like, you're kidding. She was doing a different show. She was. She was on a different program. I don't know. And it's no shade of the girls. It's just, she was had like movie budget Marvel. Marvel budget behind all of her runways. The plastic

cinematic universe was on the runway. And then she did like all the, like, the video content of the looks where it's like full CGI. James Cameron directs her TikTok. She was the reason why I'm like, I'm not going to do a fucking shoot of any nature for these things. It's like, what am I going to do? There's no competing with it.

Also, I get, I am so tickled by all the effort people do. Mama, there's HD screen grabs on the show. I'm not going to do it on my Instagram. Just look at the show. Exactly.

I'm like, you know what? They're doing full on glamour shots. They send me the video of what you just saw. So I'm going to post that again. Enjoy. It's, it's in HD.

You can just screen grab it. I got a big TV. Okay. But this was so kind. And again, And it's like, I just love that it's not, it's got such a point of view. It's like, it's unique. It's like, it's a little bit grotesque.

It's also super sexy. It's fucking kind. Thank you. Who the fuck is this? Her name is Lauren. Lauren. Lauren, yeah. Lauren Desire.

Lauren Desire. With a Y. Yeah. She was my makeover partner. She's also six, seven. So I felt so fucking. Yeah, you're like, I'm just a little girl. I'm just trying to get in a high school.

I don't know. This one is. What the fuck is going on here? Full disclosure, I may not I may not have caught every single second of the of the season. What? That's so shocking. Listen, I got shoes to stone. I got shoes to stone.

I know you've seen every single episode. Are you kidding me? You're doing like the recap every single week. I run the trivia and I did. So you were really, really dialed in. What in the motherfuck? You like that. Please explain yourself. No, I won't.

Your Honor, Exhibit A. You got a. So the task was to come out in a suit and ended in a dress. and that's what I did I love it I don't care you can't tell me shit I'm tired of having to do sexy

every single time so we got weird okay okay and I think that's acceptable and allowed and the shoes you can't really see in that picture were incredible

and you know what happened when I walked out what happened Michelle said I love it so I don't need anything from anybody else you know why because it was different

yeah and she really you will walk out with your titty's out in the first episode she'd be like what else do you have yeah like

seen it show me something else so funny I'm going to be honest with you I know you don't like it I can tell I fucking hate it Perfect And I'm only gonna say that

Because the everything else about you is perfect So I'm glad to see a little vulnerability Absolutely we have to keep it relatable We have to keep it There has to be highs and lows Says the ball bitch with a mushroom fucking thing on her head And and oh now see

Let's talk now we're back Now we're back Okay we're fucking porn We're so back Let's get the stroke and lotion out again So this is the promo They only like me when I'm sexy girls can't be weird anymore

can't be fucking freaky I know you can't just they want to paint you in a box they just gonna stroke it they want to stroke it they want to stroke the box yeah um so this was promo now oh god it's so funny

to look back about our promos both of my promos were the worst promos ever on the history of the show and I your part in them or just like the no no but my

yes me and also the the shoot the vibe the whole concept. I liked All-Stars, too. I think that a fun. Mary, first of all, we never had a promo. We never had a promo. There was no commercial.

Then I was wearing some, the promo was like, royalty, queens. I was wearing some boo-boo fucking, like. Do you want to know what my promo was? Orange. That was my prompt. Honey, I think royalty sounds cool. Oh, yeah, it sounds cool when you have, when you'd have a commercial. We didn't have a commercial.

This is orange. I remember people like pawing at the crown. I remember, like, little close-ups. I remember a video commercial. They were gifts, Mama. Those were gifts. Okay. I don't, we didn't get, we didn't, they went from season, well, season seven was a flop.

But they went from season six, again, Marvel Cinematic Universe. James Cameron came in, directed that promo. Still probably the best promo of all time. Panthers. I mean, it was, everybody was so cunt, so well lit. You couldn't tell who was a booger. No. Everybody looked flawless.

And everybody had their own, like, little tableau, their little setup. Oh, Bianca's. Yeah. Courtney and Daryne with the Jackhammers LaGangea behind the blinds It was like cunt So cunt

And then you got American Apparel for Baby 7 They're like just wear your best denim girls You have a white Cutoff shirt They literally said this So the Like this is probably going to be the last season

Based on what we just saw So we're not going to spend any money on it I think we probably We should probably cut her losses No, I remember talking with the marketing people and the stylists and all this shit before we got there. They're like, yeah, so we're going to do like this really like Terry Richardson, like Polaroid kind of. And then my eyes started to glaze over and I started to grab the razor to just let my wrist. I was, it was like, oh, okay, yeah, flat white, Polaroid, drag.

Definitely, definitely, definitely. That's what I get into drag for. That's definitely going to work. There's like an outlet still on the wall next to your picture. They haven't fucking like airbrushed that out. It was, it was, it had the potential, like, the commercial itself for season seven was Cunty, the concept, the execution. Rue had the nerve to look incredible.

She really did. She looked that side pony in the legs and the, the, the, the, the slash dresser. She looked cunt. We all looked like the cat's ass. It was really nice to follow up season six's promo with that, wherever you can, like, you can't tell who's bad at drag. And for yours, I couldn't tell who. Who was going to tell who was going to do a good job?

Trixie didn't have one line. Trixie and Kennedy did not say one word in a whole promo. Perfect. I think Trixie did this. And then, and Kennedy did like this like or something. I don't know. It was, it was, it was horrendous. And then All Stars 2 was another slap in the face because we didn't know at the time that it was going to be.

I mean, I think All Stars 2 is so kind. But we didn't know that. Because All Stars 1 was so bad. Sure. You know, and like, so we didn't really know what we were getting into. We thought we're going to do teams and all that crap. But it ended up turning out great. But, like, this is a promo.

Thank you. This is a fucking promo. And this is, to make Orange feathers work. Yeah. Why don't you work for the U.N.? Why aren't you, like, in Syria right now? I'm in Venza. Yeah, I'm going to, like, start brokering peace in the Middle East.

Seriously, why aren't you in Lebanon right now, like, a quelling? Salting. Seriously. Oh, this was the look. For the people in the 405, I'm so sorry. You'll just have to pull over and look at the image. Um, this was when she said, I hate you. She sure did. And that, oh, I just, I just love this. Look so much. That hair. Morgan, um, McMichael's husband, Hassan. Best hair. Really? Yeah, he did the majority of my hair for the season. Get out of here. So good. Synthetic? Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. Love a loaf because I mean, you could just spray it and forget it. Um, in the, I love hair that looks like hair. I'm tired of the hot. I'm tired of the hot. wheel's hair. I don't want to see like the like encrusted little like tracks that the Hot Wheels can be on. I don't need it anymore. I need hair that looks like hair. So I'm that way too. Like

I want to look like a girl. Call me old fashion. Call me old fashion but in my day they were like girl. That's it. Not that's it. Hot wheel fucking Easter egg crap. Putting foots in your mouth. Neen a West bullshit. No. Like I would

I know I agree. Like I just love like I just like looking like a girl Or a woman at 43 No, just a little girl You're weird about it, it's fine No, I really, but I really feel like I really feel like a girl when I'm in drag

And I'm like, how old is the little girl that you feel like? No, not little, like but I feel like a 30 year old girl Okay You know what I mean? Like I'm doing my post back in France or something I took some years off Okay, you know what I mean? I'm doing something

I'm in grad school Gorgeous So talk to me about this burlesque number Talk to me about Did you fucking lipstick against ginger. I did lip sync against ginger. To fucking pink.

Love pink. See, I said that and they didn't keep it in. The pink industrial complex is large and looming. Absolutely, absolutely. Big pink. RuPaul is in the pockets of big pink right now. She's in the clutches of big pink. We need her to get into Big Brown, but she won't do it.

Nope, nope, not anymore. Not anymore. I can't. I stand that song. I hate that song. Mama, it's a bar mitzvah song. It's a state fair song. It's like that is the song that's playing as you're on the zipper. Yes, and also when they're giving the blue, the blue ribbon to the biggest pig in the... Oh, absolutely. There's, um, the pregnant cow is giving birth and they have to alert the entire state fair. It's your glass.

Raise your glass and moonshine, you fucking hicks. I can't stand that song. And it was so funny in that moment because they do the whole like little raffle thing of like, we get to find out who's going to pick the ball. I'm like, the moment they say ginger's, they barely. she barely lets him finish saying, Ginger, what's on? Pink? I'm like, yeah. Yeah, of course it is. So, you lost.

I sure did. I sure did. But you know what, though? So did I. And guess what? It seems to be working pretty well for you. It's always, I'd rather I'd rather have 100 people say you were robbed than, then, I don't know. I don't know what you shouldn't have won.

Yeah. I mean, I don't think they tell. I don't think. Oh, they, they, they. I'm like, I don't, I've seen a few people tell. I hate, I, I, I, I, It did, I have heard and I have witnessed and I've been told that way back in the day, like Alaska, we got some really rude stuff. And it made me so mad because she absolutely killed All-Stars 2. Like, like, there's no doubt.

There's no doubt. She fucking, she tore, she shot, she took, she took off her diaper. She spread those fucking bony cheeks and she shot on that whole season. She killed it. And so to like, to say that like, she robbed anybody, girl, get it over yourself. get a, like, you can like someone more than another person. You'd be, like, upset that you're like horse in the race didn't win. Yeah, but you're going to be like, oh, well, that horse who did

well at every single thing that was put in front of them doesn't deserve the crown. Yeah. Or, but the girl with the cross-eyed, the cross-eyed girl with the nice heart. She should, she does. That horse has a good heart. You know, the one with the bum leg in the, in the, in the mange. Just like, one hoof in the glue factory. Like, it's not America's next, nice superstar drag, whatever.

You know, it's like whatever. So, yeah. I mean, do people, do you get that in a meeting and greet? First of all, do you like doing meeting greets? No. Bosco will be appearing tonight. And, you know. I sure don't.

Sure don't. You don't like meeting and greeting the legions of your adoring fans, the ones who are stroking it to you behind their television stuff. I know. I don't feel like such a dickwad because I'm just like. No, it's weird. It's weird. It's weird. people and I love being able to like take in all of the compliments and gifts that people

want to give me. It's all great. I just also, I'm not like a people person where being around people gives me energy. I'm not like a person that like that kind of charges me. I charge myself by being alone. Yes, same. And like being on myself. So I have to like pour into other people. And so a meet and greet just feels like I'm pouring a lot. And they deserve it and they should have that because they are really, really fabulous and nice people and they really like me and they're very excited. And they're paying money. And they're paying money. So like, you got to. Um, I, I prefer being on stage. But I think a meet and greet is also something that, um, is in my contract. So I will be doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, it's, I agree. It's, it's, it's such a

weird, it's such a strange, stupid thing to complain about it. It's the worst complaint about. Like, oh, I don't want to stand around for an hour and get compliments and money. Like, wait, a hundred people have to give me gifts and tell me I'm their favorite person in the world. Like, what? Like, like, no. I like tell my boyfriend. He's like, I work. oncology. Like, I dealt with, like, five people who are dying this week. I'm a pediatric oncologist. So it sounds like I have it a lot worse than you, huh, babe?

Yeah. I work in a mine, you bitch. Exactly. I have fucking black lung. Yeah. Yeah, no. It is, it is, there was a point where actually I liked doing the meeting greet more than the show.

Okay. Tell me about this. Well, because I, like, I used drag race to come out of my show. Like, I was, like, very, very much an introvert shy. Like, it didn't, afraid of everybody. but then like you know it's always funny but I mean when people say like don't care about what anybody else thinks of you I think what planet are they on I think they're on planet's sociopath absolutely you know what I mean I I you shouldn't like get hung up on on everything like on comments or whatever from people you've never met but like what people think of you is quite important actually also when you're a public facing person and like your the other people's opinion of you is the reason why you get to work You kind of have to care a little bit Yeah, yeah, yeah

Yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, sometimes people get crazy And they, and they sling shit I didn't know where they don't know you It's like a vendetta, whatever But like, I mean, I remember I follow Trixie around on the country for like a while

And every show director would be like, what's wrong with your sister? Because she was like, because she was not like, she wasn't super warm. Like I'm like the opposite. I'm like, ha, blah, you know, like and very, very warm. And she's just like kind of, she just gets, she's a dude.

She's like, hey, what's up? And she just treats everybody like they're the same. She's not a bitch, but she's just not like effusively warm in all this crap. It's so funny to me. What is the worst show you've ever done? Ooh. Post drag race. Post drag race.

There is a nightclub that is not too far away from here. Where the guy will ask you to just do a gig. and then you come in and you're finding that you're hosting the competition night. And there's an entire script that you have to follow and do. This guy is also some sort of like undetermined age, just roided out of his brain, gives you like a little like locker room to change in and also refers to you as he while you're in drag the entire night. And I did that gig once on my first year, the first lap that I did. And it is the only time that I've ever said, do not book me there.

ever again. Because not only are you doing the scripted thing, if he doesn't like how you're doing it, he'll just voice of over. Yes, yes, yes, yes. We are going to, we are going to bleep that, but baby, do I know, oh my God,

do I know who you are talking about? The worst gig in the world. Baby, let me tell you. Honey, and if you don't have breakfast with him the next day, one day, one day, I decided not, because it's not that far away from here. Fame changed you.

Of course. Fame has changed you. I'm a monster now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I decided not to get put up at the hotel. And which meant that I was not at his beck and call for hanging out. I was running, I was running 10 minutes late to the show. Oh, you better believe he started the show without me.

No, he did not. And then, and then. The one with your face on the poster. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then got on the mic and said, Katu will be meeting every single person tonight free of charge. No, no. And then I, then I was trapped doing a meeting rate for about 450 fucking people till three in the morning.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. His guts. Yeah. Yeah. Like, not. I don't, I don't think he's a good person. He's crazy.

He is crazy. And maybe, like, I can't, like, judge his morality because he is just insane. No, that was. Also, anybody who refers to their drag queens as he when they're in drag, that is my red flag. No, that's, that's intentional. Because when you work with drag queens as much as that person does, that is a dig. It feels like it. Unless, although there's something like Vegas for whatever reason is very about female illusion.

So sometimes like the older girls will be like Rick Marino or not Ricko. Is it that his name? Yeah, Chad Michael, Derek Barry. It's the thing. Kenny Kerr. Like it's very like that is kind of like an old fashioned way of doing it. Because like they are boys and you need to acknowledge them as boys when they're not on stage. This is their craft.

But that is obviously not. What I'm going for. And not what you... There is nobody... Anybody with half an eye... Half an eye and a little bit of gray matter up in their head would see you and be like... Puss. Well, this was also before some surges.

So there was a lot more jawline in that moment in time. Was their lipstick? Were their lashes? With their wigs and jewelry? Get a grip. Get a grip. It is the one time I'm like, you can't have me back there. Let's do some rapid fire.

We are going to film a porn later, so we'll just... Okay, perfect. Shoes stay on. I'm Greek. I got the shoes. Let's see. Here we go. Okay, Bosco.

Yes, go. I did also tweet out some, if you want to take a peek at my Twitter, they're probably, I glance at them outside. They're all horrible. They're always weird. Like, how big are your boobs? Or like, can you be my mom?

Can you be my mom? How do you do it? Oh my God. Okay. First of all, so Bosco, how dare you? All right. Okay. That was the first question.

Okay. Can I answer that? Please. I have to. It's a moral imperative. It's my job. I can't not. What were your initial thoughts on the tournament twist on All-Stars?

Oh, I enjoyed the lack of resources that it would take to do three episodes rather than an entire season at a time. Sports are really confusing to me, so I had to like see it in order to understand it. It ended up being fine. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I think we already covered this a little bit. Do you think we should bring back Mall Drag? Yes.

Yes. We need a reset. Absolutely. Oh, can I tell you something that Nicole Pagebrook said that changed my life? Yes. Are you calling her a mall drag artist? Yes. Yes. You've seen. We have eyes. I have eyes that can see and a heart that can feel. That's exactly what I'm calling her. And she's one of the coolest people I've ever met. Yeah, she's fears. I was sitting next to her in a bus. We were doing press. Irene was sitting next to me and Irene's partner was there all dressed up. She looks over at Irene's partner. You look good tonight. All my cissies are getting whammed up tonight too. Whammed up tonight. Oh, I love that. So I wake up out of a dead sleep every morning. I'm getting whammed up tonight.

And like, it's changed everything for me. Whammed up? Lauren Desire's getting whammed up. She's put on her mother of pearl toe buckle fly. Oh, yeah. You want to taste this tape, resi? She's got that extra long selfie stick in the kitchen and she's whammed. Oh, call me George Michaels. This is I fucking whammed.

Oh, the whispers, they're careless. Oh, my. But you got to have faith. But you got to have faith. Okay, all right. All right. Do you still find, okay, do you still find being attracted to Twinks a character of law?

Yes. Yes, I sure do. I think Twinks are a blight among, like, on humanity. They need to be stopped. There is always a better option. There is always a better option. I, for one. Not even the Twinks want the Twinks.

Read the room. The Twinks are fucking each other. Thank you. Thank you. They're waiting. They're waiting. They could be boyfriend twins. Doppel bangers.

Doppel bangers. Doppel bangers. Wham it up. Okay. I have always loathed the term, Twink. I don't care for these stupid characterizations of gayplay, bears, all that crap. But like, Twink, that word to me is disgusting. Like, it just, ugh.

It's not something that inspires sexual feelings to me. No. And, like, I feel like Twink's also have. to, like, pick a lane at a certain... Like, you either, like, die a twink or live long enough to see yourself transition or whatever Batman said? I mean, yeah. And, like, you just have to like, where are we going with this? I know.

Ask Courtney Act. She's... What are we doing? She's twink to twunk to... Now pick something else, Mary. You're 43. She is really buff, though, which I think is a good route. She's buff, and also she has perfect skin. And she's got that good turkey hairline. Just machine punched. But she does. I mean, she's the... I'm the

bizarre version of her. I made all the... You're her warrior. No, she's the monarchy. Are you at her tether? Yeah. Just the evil version of her. I made all the wrong decisions.

She made all the right ones. Yeah. No, no, no, no. We're twins, but I'm the dark one. Exactly. Like, in us, when it's the tether. Like, she's raised in the light of Australia and you were raised in the darkness of Boston. It's like the Wario, whatever, the bizarro version of Superman, whatever the fuck it is.

What's it like to be brave? Kind of overwhelming. but like somebody has to do it. And I feel like there's an obligation. Yeah. And you do it with Grace and a plume. Duh. Okay. What's your current vocal stem, if you have any?

Oh, getting whammed up tonight. Absolutely. We're getting whammed up tonight at every moment. And the other like nugget that she left me with is like, we're talking about blowjobs. She's like, you want to taste this tape resi. Short for tape residue. So.

Blowing chunks on the furrow five, all of our listeners. Oh, that's, that Rezzy. Yes, you said bring back Maldraig, and she is. You need to take the good with the bad. But I don't think Lauren Desire is taping up her thing. No, she's letting it. She's got, like, fruit of the loom underpants underneath that little sundress. Ooh.

Okay. What is the worst humiliation ritual doing Snatch Game or lip-sinking to pocketbook featuring Ludacris by Jennifer Hudson? Oof. Oof. The thing is... What did you do for that game? I did Kenny Kerr, who is like a Begus impersonator.

So I just used it as like a way to do four different bad impersonations. Gotcha. Because I can't really do any of them. I hate it. I hate it. It's terrible. It's very difficult. Mary,

they just need to let it go. They sure do. They sure do. Not even the girls who are like good at it can like do it in a way that people want to see anymore. It's all the good characters have been done. And nobody does impersonations in their acts anymore. So we're just learning it for one particular moment of television. Yes.

And it just is not interesting. And RuPaul hates it RuPaul hates doing it And also like I am sick and tired of seeing Drag Queens fail When there are so many other ways That they can succeed on that show

And like they're so talented Why are we having them do the thing That like nobody is particularly good at? Nobody is an improv expert And an illusionist on drag race anymore No because like celebrity illusion is no longer It's not a thing that like People do for their money

No It's a very few I mean It's an extremely honed comedic skill that takes years and years and years to improv like that on the spot in a character is like so hard like improv alone I'm pretty good at improv

I can improv as myself sure that's fine and even that is stressful though absolutely and sometimes that backfires let alone doing a silly voice the snatch game sucks I have no business doing a song where the lyrics I'm gonna hit you with my pocket book and then

I don't understand why we had two white ladies from the Northwest doing that song either So we all suffered the consequences for that choice. Drag race girls do love a black sin, I'll tell you that much. They sure do. Okay. A question from my lesbian producer.

What are the names of your cats? Aw. Tegan and Sarah. No, I'm just kidding. Katie and Ellen. Portia and Ellen. Portia and Melissa. Katie and Melissa was Toby and Tito.

Toby and Tito, my little boys. Cute. And do you think being raised Catholic caused you to convert to being trans? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. The Pope. My childhood pastor was also found in possession of child pornography. Oh. Yes, and I was an altar boy.

Oh. You're jumping ahead. But no, his name was Father Lou. Just called him Daddy. Father Lou. Father Lou. Father lewd is kind of fun, though. Oh, thank you.

But yeah, nothing ever happened there. And I think that's where the self-esteem issue started. So that's kind of where we all ended. Well, I mean, if you grew up Catholic, I grew up Catholic, and I'm still trying to unpack body stuff. You clearly have, I feel that you have, you've got that shit on lock. Absolutely. We're figuring it out. No shame in that game. I don't know.

I had to go to private school, had to go to church, like, twice a week for years and years and years. And I was like pretty atheist by the time I was like 12 or 13. So like we've already kind of done that whole song and dance. Like still impacts things. We still have all that guilt hanging out there, not doing much. Were you confirmed? Yep. What was your confirmation name if you don't mind my asking?

I literally don't even remember. Fierce. Do you? I resisted it. I was a Satanist at that point. Sickening. And my brother and sister both yielded. I was unyielding as the only thing, the only braddy part of my childhood that I'm actually proud of because I was like, God, what are you talking about?

Yeah. That doesn't make any fucking tell. They couldn't answer the question. You know what I mean? And I was like, oh, I guess I'm right. And it was like so sanctimonious. What made you move to Seattle? To not be in Montana primarily

I know Montana is rough Montana's not the cultural hub of the No it's not the mecca of the west by any means Or a lovely paradise for trans folks No no not particularly actually I really needed to get out Montana I wanted to see I had some cousins in Seattle I was originally going to use Seattle's like a jumping off point

And see if I wanted to do L.A. or New York And then it's fell in love with Seattle It's beautiful it's my favorite city I've seen so many at this point It still is at the top. Also, it's close to Vancouver, which is lovely. Also lovely. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We are going to wrap it up. I want to ask you one last thing. Please. What is a sound that you love? A sound that I love. Ooh. I like this. Jewry jangles.

I love it. I love the sound of bangles. I love a bangles. This is really good for me. Okay. How do you feel about that? I love it. Okay, great.

What is the sound that you hate? Oh. I don't know if I hate it, but it's always It's the sound of a girl taking her wig off and it's like That's the sound of womanhood When they were like taking the lace Exactly When you hear the two pay tape just like giving

You're like oh yeah Lauren desires And her tape resi And her like Velcro hairline Machine punched What is your favorite curse word? Oh it's not it's pretty boring but like probably cunt

cunt love cunt that's a that's a really good one and it just has like a lot of okay last question if heaven exists what would you like god to say to you as you arrive at the pearly gates um amy winehouse is over there go say hi okay cheers cheers thank you so much boss go high five oh this was so wonderful this is a delight you remain um i think i could say with total confidence no shade to our previous guest that you are the sexiest, most beautiful guest on our show to date. Thank you. Thank you.

Everybody else, your dogs. Your dogs. Oh my God. I just have to say out of all the opportunities I've had, this is by far the most recent. And I just want to thank you so much. Consider that stolen. Oh, bitch. That's how I do. It's my fucking club thing. I say it at every Club.

It was by far the most recent. Oh, I really fucking go in for it. Oh, I love. I live. I love. That's the other one.

Oh, Deena Montina has one that I stole. That's so fucking funny. It's, I know that there's a lot going on right now. And there's a lot of things

that keep me up late at night. And I just want to share something with all of you that's giving me a lot of strength. And that is that I have merchandise available to purchase on my website at this is bosco.com.

She did it with her album, but like the wigstock. Whitstock, the rose. The best drag Just like a single stanza of The Rose Memoirs of the Thyroid Or something or something like that was the best

Drag performance that's ever been done I swear to God Brilliant. Have you seen her on Christmas show? I've never seen her live though I'm dying to But if you Google Dina Martina Wigstock the Rose And your life will change forever All right thank you

Bye bye Thank you.