The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - Courtney Act is Eminently Keen with Trixie and Katya

Episode Date: May 5, 2026

In today's class, myriad topics of interest and erudition will be covered, but first we shall crack open Miss Act's Rules of Grace and Refinement Vol. 1, beginning with the phrase, “Are you keen?” The word 'keen' derives its romantic force from the ancient adjective meaning 'eager' or 'interested'. By the twentieth century, however, especially in colloquial British vernacular, “keen on” had become an informal shorthand for affection and/or erotic preference, thereby avoiding the vulgarity and bluntness of directly discussing acts of love-making. In contemporary 2026 dating parlance, “Are you keen?” has become synonymous with the more direct question, "May we at some point this evening be inside each other?" Class dismissed. There will be a quiz. To control your cravings and boost your energy the natural way, use code BALD for up to 65% off your order at: https://VeracityHealth.co To get simple, online access to personalized, affordable care for ED, Hair Loss, Weight Loss, and more, visit ⁠⁠https://Hims.com/BALD⁠⁠ Mother's Day is Sunday, May 10th and bouquets are selling out fast! To claim your Double Roses offer before they're gone, visit: https://1800Flowers.com/BALD This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. You don’t have to be on this journey alone. Sign up and get 10% off at: https://BetterHelp.com/BALD Bath & Body Works candles not only smell amazing, but are crafted with premium, lead-free wicks for a clean, safe burn. Shop the White Barn Neutrals collection now at ⁠https://bathandbodyworks.com⁠ Follow Trixie: @TrixieMattel Follow Katya: @Katya_Zamo To watch the podcast on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/TrixieKatyaYT⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out our official YouTube Clips Channel: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/TrixieAndKatyaClipYT⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you want to support the show, and get all the episodes ad-free go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://thebaldandthebeautiful.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out future Live Podcast Shows, go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://trixieandkatya.com/#tour⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out the Trixie Motel in Palm Springs, CA: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.trixiemotel.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Listen and Watch Anywhere! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Trixie: Official Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.trixiemattel.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@trixie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter (X): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   Follow Katya: Official Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.welovekatya.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/welovekatya⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter (X): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   #TrixieMattel #KatyaZamo #BaldBeautiful Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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But then I was like, Vanity, it's funny that you and I think we're so close. I said, because you know, Katia and Courtney are like so close. And I was like, we're kind of. And Vanity said something like, I'm the Katia. And I was like, yeah, kind of. Is that making me the Courtney? It's not a, no, it's not.

No, that's not. We're evil twins. I'm your evil twin. I'm your bizarro doppelganger. You're the healthy version of me. Yes. That's not true with that. The doppel gang.

Who's doppel ganging who? No, no, no, no. You look like her? No. There's a word for this. No, Mary. Chopper ganger.

Oh, I learned about this. Chopel ganger. We don't look like I'm the evil, dark, ugly version of her. That's the thing. So she makes the good choice. I make the bad choice. But we're almost exactly the same age. Even though we look 10 years apart.

Vanity was over yesterday. I was like, can I ask you a question about Courtney? She said, what? I said, was she always like this? She said, what do you mean? I said, perfect. And she was like, yeah, kind of. It's a little annoying.

I said in the kicker is, she's also a really good person. That last part's true, but I have photographic evidence that proves the contrary. I was not visually perfect. No. Or perfect on stage. Well, nobody's perfect on stage. Vanity calls it the hungry alley cat. She said she turned around and looked down and she said she thought you were a lesbian. Yeah. I was wearing this like when we first met in like the year 2000 because she was like Vanity. Right. And I was like. Yeah. How old were you slim up? 18. Oh my God. Yeah. And it gives crossy. Cross tea. Early crossy.

I would think you looked like Robin. Right now I do. You gave like a puffer jacket with blonde hair. Yeah, a big yellow Helley Hansen puffer jacket and like a green PVC trousers with Buffalo boots that had like a four inch platform.

2000s, right? 2000s, Y2K. Y2K. Love the fashion. And this boy that I knew who was like friends with the boy that I had a crush on. This is like the first week in Sydney was like I know vanity. I can introduce you you want and I was like, oh my God, and like tapped on her shoulder. It was like, in my mind, it was like film noir. It was the second level of Stonewall. The Venetian blinds were like spilling

light in off the street. She was dressed as hit me baby one more time, Britney, tapped her on the shoulder and she turned around. She was like, oh, hello, can I help you? And I was like, hi, I'm Shane. Can I buy you a drink? And I was like, I was like networking. Weird. And I did. Trying to fuck. And they've been fucking ever since. Just that one. Get out of all your drink. Are you keen?

Oh, you're keen. Why do people say that? I'm sorry to finish the Venice history. It's funny because I feel like I texted you this recently because like just one day everybody on Grindr all of a sudden just started writing, are you keen? And I was like, you're right. You're actually correct. Nobody ever says that word in the continental United States. No.

Not one time ever. Are you keen? But we use a lot of words. Do you want to? Are you down? You know what? I also hate? Are you horned? Oh, not honed.

Horned. Horned is weird. Horned is weird. Because I just think that's one. Are you, I'm not much just at home horned. Horned. I'm just horned. Yeah, I don't like that.

Like a pig? Like a pig is horned. Yeah, I'm Tusk. Yeah, I'm Tusk. Have you seen that movie Tusk? I did. What do you think of that? Did you watch it?

Is it an elephant? It's very vegan, actually. Yeah, you would love it. This guy is, um, he had a loving kinship with a waller. And the walrus died and he's a scientist and he kidnaps someone. Is your documentary or scripted? No, it's a scripted. No, it's very scripted.

And he kidnap someone and uses surgeries to turn him into a walrus. It's just like it sounds. The guy gets drugged. Cut off the legs, sharpen the femurs to make tusk. It's crazy. And then there's just unending shots of him going, ooh, ooh! Is there a psychosexual element to this?

I think it's sort of implied that he fucked the walrus. Because I find it, honed. You're Tusk. She's very tough. I'm far up right now. I would say Tusky. Are you tusky? I've got my legs crossed for a reason.

The Tuscan sign. Lee Daniels. Have you seen Lee Daniels the butler? No. Have you seen Lee Cronin's the mummy? No. Have you seen the deliverance? No.

Okay. You haven't seen the deliverance? No, deliverance. No, no. Deliverance or... Isn't it the deliverance? The deliverance is the one with Glenn Close. Yeah.

Okay, because deliverance is very different. That's what's like... No, that's Shut off. She says with the getting it fucked in the wood, getting graped in the woods by hillbillies. Right. You know,

it's a famous banjo and that indicates. I have a question. Yes. I was just yesterday thinking, we are coming up to some kind of anniversary of you winning Big Brother. Wasn't it about COVID times? The bicentennial.

No, it was 2018 and it was January. Let's go through all of you. Do you remember that? I mean, obviously you do, but do you remember that? I remember the fucking, do I remember? What do you remember? Because I was trapped inside a house, so I have no idea what was going on. What made it over to your...

I was on tour at the time. And I remember thinking, like, okay, drag queens win drag race all the time, but a drag queen winning a, like, like, popular competition of, like, all random people. Mainstream. Liking you or not liking you. Network. It was so inspiring. Not inspiring.

Enough people weren't immediately like fuck her she has a wig on. You know what I mean? I mean that would happen now. And who was that your co-defendant and something? Anne Wittickham in 23 years of parliament. You're co-defendant. I don't think your person you almost

you went against for the win. Competitor. Colliege. And Wittickham in 23 years of parliament she voted against every single piece of pro-LGB legislation that ever came before her. So the end of Big Brother, she hates fags.

She hates fags, but she loved me. She was like, Shane's the kind of boy you want. want your grandson to be. Courtney's a tart. And I was like, yeah, that's true. Damn. Is tart good? It's a slutty. She meant it in a bad way. Like, tart would be like the highest form of insult that she as a, as a Catholic woman could. I just remember you sitting there and you're in like a side tinsel ponytail. So it's, Anne, Anne is like in a green teal. And looks like what she does for a living. She looks like a 70 year old woman. Yes. And then across the couch, you have, Courtney, I feel like I have this

memory of you like sitting like this. It's like a side tinsel pony. Yeah. And the makeup is glitter brows. A blue glitter brow. Waiting to see who wins. And also don't you remember when she, the nudity? Excuse me.

Don't I remember. Do I not have a life size HD 4K printout laser jet on my wall? You just jack it too. And then the just the clear tape barely concealing. your taped up genitals. Like a vacuum-packed chicken breast. Exactly. It was frozen food section.

It was so cunt, literally. Literally. And I was like, that is such a fabulous. This was like one of the stunts before a lot of stunts. And your posture is like. It's so. It's very vulnerable. It's very La Bamba.

It's like kind of balzy. I'm trying to imagine what. I don't know if I remember the moment. I just remember like stepping off the step. Yeah. And feeling it drop. And I think I was probably like trying to catch it with the crookamanez. Yeah.

And what's crazy is that picture, the unedited picture was not hard to find. No. I photoshop so many people's faces on to it. You can't really see genitals. You just see the UPS store. Like you just see tape and a barcode or skin. Yeah. Yeah.

Like you can't see. Like you can't see pussy lips or like a dickhead or something. No, but there's splash. Yeah, but it's just like an armpit Or an elbow crack Right, right, right It's just a pubis But they blurt it

Because I think The feminine head It's like this issue that we have When you're on Instagram or YouTube Where people are like It's a lady but it's a man And the algorithm doesn't know how to No, that's not the picture honey

I want the one with the face With the expression But speaking of So when she pulls it up I have a very serious question About censorship on Instagram Because I Breathe the nipple

Yes And also blur maybe the scalping D. Bone Tomahawk. I saw a clip from this movie called. What are you talking about? I'll tell you. Bone Tomahawk came up on Instagram,

a clip. A prisoner, Kurt Russell's in this movie. I saw a prisoner get scalped. Then his dick cut off, then flipped up and hacked in half and pulled apart. For real or for acting? Well, in a movie. In a movie.

In a movie. But if a movie with Jennifer Anderson's nipples pop out, it will be blocked. Or Valentinas famously. Yeah. It would be deleted. It'll be deleted and blocked. And your account will be closed.

When I'm doing drag videos and drag, because I do drag, I, when I'm doing the makeup videos, if I'm shirtless, once I have the wig and the lashes on, you have to blur the nipples. I know. But they literally showed him getting, no, like YouTube will like flag it as like female nipple. They scalped him, hacked off his dick.

That's fine. That's fine. It was made me puke and I love gore. Thank you. Oh. Oh. Blur it. I have a question.

Yes. What made you want to do Celebrity Big Brother? I'm sorry to make you talk about this. It's so long ago. That's okay. I didn't, which is the funny thing. Because, okay. You know, like sliding doors moments?

I just watched that movie. So good. It's good. I remember getting the call, because I did this dating show on MTV called Single as Fuck. And it was like me, Teen Mom Farrah Abraham.

No way. Marnie Simpson from Jordie Shaw. Amazing. Jedwood. No way. The two of them. Who are both dating women, which came as a shock to everybody, including each other, I think. And we flew around the world going to different countries dating people.

Oh, would that yours? No. Don't you feel like if Courtney, if your body has Red Bull, it'll just like disintegrate? No, she has an... The amount of supplements she travels with you, have no idea. She mostly got vitamins. Vitamins? She's got like Pat McGrath with the makeup.

It's like she travels with 82. suitcases of vitamins. And I've also got like something that'll cure whatever ails you. Like if I'm away and I'm traveling, I need like a tincture potion. Have I got an itchy eye? Is my throat scratchy? Is something going on with my middle ear? How's my anus? Now are you on the gray market buying peptides? That's what people want to know. Not yet. Are you on extreme peptides.com? No, but you know what I did, um, choosing whether I want to talk about this. We've got to get back to just 2010. 2010. I purchased Melanat 10 to the internet. The internet. 2010.

Clive. He doesn't even born. You gotta bleep that name. We can't give him any airtime. Okay, fair. Sorry, it's a personal bin to that. Courtney has been looks maxing for a very long time. It's just called being gay.

It's just called looking good. It's just called looking your best. Brush your hair, bitch, wash your face. Put on some clothes that don't look ugly. I remember looks maxing the females in my school when I was in high school. I, for some reason, have this vividness. memory. It was coming up to the school formal and I was thinking about all of the girls getting dressed for the formal. I went with the school captain, the female school captain, and I chose

her outfit obviously. You top modeled her. You bleached her hair. She came out of Mexico. Dental work. No, the swan. The swan. The swan. We're going to need 18 months to get you ready for it. But I remember looking around the classroom and looking at each girl and thinking like, I legitimately remember thinking every single one of these women is beautiful. and like if there's like a process of uncovering like carving the statue of David from the rock of marble. They're all in there. And I just remember thinking that. And I feel like that was, I invented looks maxing in the 90s, guys.

That's what I'm saying. I'm so sorry to tell you, Courtney, that looks maxing has existed since the dawn of time. Just know that stupid word to describe it? You know what the real kicker is? And I say this is a bald person. I think one of my biggest things is when you see somebody who just needs a haircut. Oh, yeah. When I see the girls with the super long hair, but it's all one length and it's super heavy.

Yeah. And it's like your hair is healthy and beautiful. A different haircut, you would look like a shampoo commercial. Or a different eyebrow. Or when it's time to just shave the head. There was a girl on the... It's time to shave the head. I follow this Reddit.

It's time to shave the head. I follow this Reddit for balding men where they post a picture themselves and they say, is it time? Uh-huh. Where people say whether that's time. It's sometimes... And sometimes they are like, you have a couple years. But I'm telling you, 99% of these posts are people who only have hair on the sides like firetuck. And it's like one hair on top.

And they're like, is it time? And like, that depends. Are you 50 or 20? Yeah. Is it time to look good? Is it time to look good? The phobia of being shaved-headed bald should not be stronger than the phobia of looking like patchy McWilliams. I couldn't agree more.

Dude, get a unit. Get a unit. No, don't, or don't get a unit. I love my unit, but I am so constantly perplexed. I mean, I guess people say that, people have told me, and I suspect they've told you that you have a not weird looking head. Is that right? Yeah, people love to say that.

They love to say that. I have, I have, I have, I know people who are young. Like, not, like, I'm talking 20. She knows people who are young. Shut up. I know people who are in their 20s who are doing homeovers. They're doing homeovers. They're trying to do magic up there.

They're trying to do the wizarding world of Harry Potter up there to get that thing. I feel like the people who have receding hairlines have tricked the rest of the world into styling their hair in a comb over. Even if you have a full thick, luxurious shiny head of hair. It's diabolical. It's diabolical. Like there's like hair styles that. And I'm like, that's a, that's a receding hairline cover up hair, dude. You've got a thick luxurious hairline.

A bald person. That is like you are Mr. Burns and you're trying to pull all that shit up there and you're not even 30. It's okay. Baby, shave the head. Shave the head. Well, we want to do, Wigs by Vanity, I want to do a range of rugs for gays. Like, but, like, fun ones. Like, not quite as nice as yours.

Like, not a human maybe, but, like, fun synthetic ones that you could, if anybody who has a fade could just, like, pin on a piece and have, like, a fun, fabulous, flirty, like, tiny hair? How much, you want to, what's the price point? Well, it would be pretty cheap because, I mean, it's not like a glue down. It's not going to be hand-notted. I feel like it'll be, like, a machine top kind of crown. crown of a wig.

Just crush a Mitzie. 50 parts. Yeah, just chump up with you with backstocks. Vanity told me that the Mitsy's coming back. It is coming back. I'm so excited. The Mitsy?

The Mitsy. The Mitsy. You guys, did you have the Mitzie? I don't fuck with the Mitzie. It's like a cone that like, oh, I know the Mitzie. But I'm really horny for that. Pamela Topper you guys have.

Wait, is that the fringe? Pam? It's the topper. It's just like, it's like the Mitsy comb, but it's curls. Okay. You cannot comfort. Pamela Anderson.

Yeah. It is your product, Courtney. My God. Listen, she's been out of the warehouse for very... For a couple of years. I'm back now. I'm working on the floor. She's making her way on the show room.

He got demoted. No, I got to give it up to Zavani for those motherfucking color mixes because there's no other. Raquel Welch eats shit. Beverly Johnson, go stuck ass. She's actually like pioneered this. Like she's actually like with the factory like developing techniques. Did you know I invented tinsel wigs? I did know this. I wish you hadn't.

Vanity also told me that you are the person responsible for getting RuPaul and Vanity Vicks. Now, if we could just get them a little on her head. I don't know if she wears, because now she's been wearing all those white ones. She stands in front of them. I don't think they're ours. We don't want to take responsibility for those hairlines. But she, I remember RuPaul would wear the Mattel blonde sometimes, the yellow.

It looks so good. Well, Matthew Anderson gave me a lock of RuPaul's hair. This is before I was on drag race. because I said I was at a 613 and he was like no Roo can't wear 613 because it washes her out she needs that really yellow color and so he gave me a lock of two of her wigs from the 90s and we

had those copied in our factory and one of them is called the glamison and the other is called the shade of Rupol Yes yes yes yellow She also looks good in that she wore that red from you guys sometimes If you look at season 7 If you rewatched season 7

All Hair by Matthew her every episode her hair is it's amazing we rewatched season 7 last year and the hairography and it's just so beyond

she's the makeup too she's stunning but vanities color the best blonde ever the ash the cool blonde yeah yeah yeah and the mixes are so and the Miss Australia

because their fiber is actually died yeah because like I remember the beginning the first rooted one which Rue wore on season 6 I came out for the

get out of here The scary challenge in like week three, whatever it was called, drag race me to hell. And I walked out and I was like, RuPaul is wearing a black and gray. An L-O-L. Was it the black and gray? The white with the really dark road.

That is so surreal. And I couldn't tell anyone. I didn't even tell Bianca. I was like, I would have screamed it. I can't tell anybody that RuPaul is wearing my wig and I'm like on the main stage looking. No, I just kept it to myself because I was like, I don't want to, I felt like that would.

Oh, how the sausage is made. Yeah. Or like, I know those shoes. Like I'm currying favor or like I'm like I'm like I'm, like I'm, I don't know. I know what you mean. I have a handicap, but like in golf, not. I don't think anybody thinks RuPaul's

creating favor for you. And you're definitely handicapped. That's, let's lock a hair. Maybe that was the sliding door. That was the moment everything changed. I should have been like, you're wearing my wig. And then she would be here right now with you instead of us. Right.

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you should do Celebrity Big Brother. You'd be great. And I was like, girl, nobody knows. Is Jory Shores? Shore, the precursor to Jersey Shore? I don't know if it's pre or like, tangential or spin-off. It's like the Swedish chef, Jersey Shore.

Jordy Shore. Jordy Shurdy, Bushty, Bush, Bush, but I don't talk like Swedish chefs in Jordy Shore. Where is Jordy? It's Newcastle. Mama, it's Aft by 7 p.m. Oh, it's a UK show. Yeah, it's a UK.

Newcastle in the UK. I didn't know. No, I mean, but you know Newcastle. I know, but Jersey Shores in America, I thought maybe it was like similar area. I was actually just thinking about this yesterday. How did they get two places called something sure that were like Geordie and Jersey? They're like such similar words.

Oh. Oh, GEO. Yeah. Jor Jor Jor Jor Jor J. are called Jority's. In Mama, it's trash old. She and Jee. That's a Jordy accent. Yeah.

That's a very, I keep doing a York. I try to do a Yorkshire accent when it's Jordan is very different. But Mary, it is, it is turnt up in Miss Newcastle. She gets the party. That was the first place. You guys know I've been to Newcastle. You know what I'm talking about then, right?

Yes. You agree? It's crazy. It is crazy. Like it has a different like... Maybe I don't have the experience you guys in the air. Party vibe is turned up to five hundred. I saw two women at like 9.30 like drunker than vanity.

Yes. Wearing, holding their high heels. Paralytic drunk. In this paralytic drops in freezing cold weather. In freezing cold weather. With McDonald's bags. As shoes. As shoes with hair ties wrapped around to like hold the McDonald's bags as they like.

As if that compares. to when I was in Brisbane and saw kids huffing glue at the McDonald's. Oh, that's different. And everyone in Brisbane was like, yeah. Like nobody was like, oh no, no. They were like, yeah, that's brizzy.

This is like pre-gaming is not even, it's just always a game in Newcastle. There's no pre-game. It's game. It's like ass up. You get ready. You don't have to stay ready. Face in the gutter 6 p.m.

Sun hasn't gone down. That's, like, crazy. So a girl from Jordy Shore was like, you'd be great on celebrity big brother. You trashy. You know my team of power is getting back to the back to the plot. People were very, like, alarmed and outraged the first time when you were away and I was with Cartier.

And people were like, how did Courtney, like, cycle back like seven tangents and bring us back to the plot and finish the story? And I said to this girl, Marnie, I'm like, people don't know who I am. People aren't going to care about who. I'm not going to be on Celebrity Big Brother in the UK. But it had just gone on Netflix in the UK. Because that was in the time when people still had to illegally download Drag Race to watch it. Right, right. So I went on Celebrity Big Brother, which felt like a real level jump.

And I remember at the time, look, I've healed my drag race trauma. I actually am extremely grateful for all of it, obviously. And I love RuPaul and like all of the, anyway. Less ICE's video, more authentic next time. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. No, we feel all the same way. We love draggers.

We love RuPaul. I've healed it all. And it's a nice feeling. Instagram heals the world. And destroys it at the same time. It's like you and me. What, no. I guess my...

For like yin and yang. So, sorry, go ahead. How did you get the job? They... Why won't you tell me? Her agent. Like, the way I keep asking how you got him big brother. Who's there?

The interrupting sheep. The interrupting sheep. Yeah. So the Marnie was like, you should talk to my agent. And then her agent, like, pitched me and I got the job. And I... Marney the designer. Pardon?

Marnie the designer? No, Marnie from Jordan. The story I waited for, her agent pitched it and they said yes. But I was going to say no. Thank God I'm here. I legitimately was going to say no. I remember talking about it with Wendy, my manager, because I was so like traumatized by drag race. Oh yeah.

And I was like, I don't think I could put myself through that again. What if I came out the other side and everybody hated me? Like, I don't know. I'm going to say no. Then I said no. And then obviously said yes. And told not a single soul, I was on tour with Willem and Alaska. We were performing at G-A Y, New Year's Eve, like the night before.

Oh, AAA girls. Didn't say a word to them. Yeah. Now that's a secret keeper, baby. We were at Tom Daly's house. Like, the sun is coming up, party going on. And didn't say a word to anybody. You can't tell.

Willem would tweet it. And Alaska would be jealous. She'd kill herself. Mary, a high five on that secret keeping. That is some top. That should be a mission impossible. It's almost easier to tell no one. Because like one person is worse.

At that point, tell no one. A hundred percent. One person means 12. One person means 12. Yes. And then it's just logarithmic after that. Interestingly, the night before I went in, I did tell Bianca the day before because they were like, they might want somebody to like do that after show. She has no one in her life. Well, she gets a text message from Michelle Vizage because remember Michelle Vazage was obsessed with. She's in the Big Brother Mafia. Yes. She was on before me. She went on fifth.

I was going to say she must be blocked. Oh, yeah. She was like top five or something. And she, because even the year before, Bianca had been asked to go and do the after show, and she was, she was quite territorial about the thing. And so then she, I think, found out from production that I was on and had texted Bianca like, what's this about Courtney being on Big Brother? And she was like, I don't know, girl, I haven't heard anything. And then went into the house, came out a month later, a winner, baby. It was so exciting when you won.

Plucked. I'm not, I wasn't surprised. I mean, I don't know anything about the show, but you're a winner. Michelle told me it was really, really hard. Did you find it like mentally taxing? You know what? I loved every second until I went into that house and I became one of the boys, like one of the straight boys. I would be outside in the smoking area until the dawn chorus started in the morning drinking with the straight men.

No, it was just the three straight three, three straight men. No, but I did have a bromance. And then I had a foil in Anne. And so I had that like perfect balance apparently from the outside. And then tell me, can you, in a. nutshell. For someone who doesn't, I don't watch any of these shows and I, and I, I, I don't understand what you do and I, and I, I, I don't research it. I should do that. It's whoever, whoever's the biggest brother is the winner, honestly. So if you are the largest, have the most

siblings, you bet. That's who puts on the most weight throughout the season. Okay. Courtney, and only child of 90 pounds, won. She won, but no, but like, can you tell me in three sentences? Like, pitch the show to me. You're in a house. Like, try to get me on it. Okay. So, you're living in a house together. There's, 12 people that you don't know. That sounds like a nightmare. She's not inviting. She's not inviting.

No, I'm telling her talking to people. You do nothing. You like buy groceries and you just like have conversations. And because there's 24 hours in a day and people get bored, shit happens. They do have challenges that occur. They can't watch TV. No TV. They can't listen to music.

No, because they're recording. Because it's 24 hour. And some people pay premium. And your headphones? Headphones. No. Some people pay premium to basically watch 24 hours a day. Yeah.

The cameras are on all day. You're not even allowed to take it. The only place there's no camera is in the bathroom, and they do have microphones. Do you know about that horror movie about the zombie outbreak during a show like that? There's a horror movie about there's a zombie outbreak. It's about the cast of a show like that, and that outbreak happens outside the walls. Yes, actually, I think I've seen it. And we thought, because it was one night, they do live shows twice a week, and it was a Friday night and there was no live show.

And we all thought that Queen Elizabeth had died because there's a rule with the BBC where you're not allowed to broadcast any new, whatever, when she died during Queen of the universe. Oh, wow. But she was only of the Queen of England. She was like, Graham Norton told us. Oh, I don't know if I'm supposed to say that, but Graham Norton got the T before the news. Graham Norton, I think got a text and was like, here's the T. It was from Charles.

But they explained to us when we were filming, they said, we're not going to tell the audience because we were filming in London. It'll be such a down. Yeah, and the artists are getting ready to do their show. You know what I mean? Oh, it was like, that was a great performance, despite Queen Elizabeth's death. Greg Queen is performing on Thursday night in Los Angeles.

Brazilian? Yeah. She was on Queen of the Universe. She is incredible. She won't season one. She went a million, wait. $250,000. Pounds.

Pounds. But she told me, she told us that the conversion rate to Brazil, it was like a lot of money. Oh, wait. She won't a Brazilian dollars. Yes. That's a lot of money in Brazil. It was a Brazilian dollars. You're a cunt.

She's a Brazilian heir. She's such a good singer. She's such a good singer. my God. I've messaged her. You're away, aren't you? Are you here? Thursday? Yeah. I don't know. Oh, we have a show. Yeah, we have a gig. We're out of town. Oh, I love a college show. So now that you've explained it horribly. We're not going to explain it well. It sounds horrible. Can you try to pitch it to me? Like you're my agent. I don't know if I can. I mean, the original setup is that it was a social experiment to watch what happens. But there's so many seasons of it now. To me, it seems it says boring survivor. So the, but the audience,

The audience watching Indoor. It's about conversation. Which is why I did well. You would do very well. I would go out of my mind without listening to music. I would go out of my mind. You know what's interesting?

I enjoyed the whole whole thing. Had these boys who I was like mates with. And then like a week before the end, they all got voted off. And then I was left with Anne, Amanda Barry, who's an older lesbian actress, and another older man. Wayne Sleep, who's a gay man who's a ballerina, like in the Royal Ballet.

And the three of them were all of a similar age. And the two gays ended up turning on me and siding with Anne, the person who had voted against all of their rights throughout their entire lives. And it was like this weird thing. Threatened by your perfect glossy skin. Amanda came into the bathroom once. I'm like seeing they're doing my makeup. And she was like drunk and like, you need to stop like coming for Anne, blah, blah, blah.

I'm like, I literally have done nothing but have nice conversations with her. about her voting record. And then she was, she stormed out of the room, she turned around, she was like, and another thing. I worked with Danny LaRue,

and I know that drag queens aren't sloppy. That skirt falling off on the way in, that was a setup. And I was like, and I was like, and she was right. Don't you think if it was a setup you would have had panties on?

Panties, bitch. Oh, I thought it was a stunt. No. Also, I can't believe you thought that skirt was. Are you for real? I had it made the night before, I went in. That's no excuse. Because I had a top. It looked safety pent. It was

pop stunts. Thank you. That's what I'm saying. I can't believe you thought you'd, I can't believe you were surprised it fell off. I thought it was a planned stunt. It was like that piette fabric, right? It was like really, it's like super sequins. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had this amazing outfit that Howie made that was three pieces. It was like a jacket, a top, and shorts. And it was my favorite out of all all the outfits I was taking in. But I was like, you can't go in shorts. You have to wear a gown.

And so I messaged my stylist, Frank, and he found a piece of the exact same fabric. It was like that was the whole scrap of fabric that he bought and like turned and just skirt put a couple of pop studs on it and that was it. This episode is in partnership with Airbnb. Spring always does this to me. One patch of sunshine, one brave tulip, and suddenly I am planning little Canadian getaways like winter never happened.

I just got back from Toronto where we did a live bald and beautiful show and I had such a ridiculous amount of fun. The city was buzzing, the streets felt alive again, and everywhere I turned I saw patios opening up, people out and about. and that first delicious feeling that winter had finally loosened its grip. I stayed in this beautiful home I booked through Airbnb that had huge windows, a dreamy kitchen, and the kind of bathroom lighting that made me look slightly less gargoyle-esque. After one good night of sleep after the flight,

I became the kind of person who orders a pen of chocolate and takes a long walk through the streets of downtown as if I've finally found inner peace. Meanwhile, back at home, my place was empty, silent, and developing the aesthetic atmosphere of a haunted house. And that is why hosting on Airbnb started to sound very smart for my upcoming summer travel. While I'm off having my seasonal awakening in Quebec City or Prince Edward Island, my home could be hosted on Airbnb and earning a little extra income to help fund my next summer trip. Or maybe it can help with a little home improvement project I've been planning.

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Oh, by the way, I have some cute outfits of yours in my house. Oh, fun. Yeah. Is there something that's blue? Yes. It's a jacket pants. I've tried it on several times. I wear the same size, except I'm apparently 50 pounds heavier than you.

Well, now I have to extend everything in the back. How did you find out when caught your shit in your bed? She told me? Thank you. Honesty is the best policy. I've only heard her side of it. Honesty's the best policy. Oh, maybe milk.

Was milk staying there at the time? Mitch was there. Oh, this is when Jennifer, too. Yeah. Down the shoot. Listen, I gave her, I gave her the gift of an identity. She had no head. She had a Viking funeral.

Could you just imagine, though, if you're like going to the trash gym, the dumpster in a building and you're in, you're in L.A. Anything had happened. And this is like a dismembered corpse? No. Imagine my mom having, imagine my mother. Yes. My mother. Mother.

Mother. My mother, Lee Cronin's my mother, having to carry, or not having to, carrying a box. Getting to. Getting to. Getting to. Having the fortune. A box that said mega fuck slut, 25 pounds of fuckable pussy and ass. Her gay son, crackhead, blah, blah, blah, blah.

It's just amazing. She does have. She does have. Women. He just likes women with no heads, no arms, and no legs. It's very in cell adjacent. No, it's not. Like, I like women, but I just like them to be dismembered.

No, I have an appreciation for torsos. Why did you buy me? You know, I get a kick out of the, the, the, the, porn when they're fucking the toy that looks like a miniature woman's butt. Oh, I had, like with a little, the tiniest pair of tits. I have one of those. No, it's like the tiniest pair of tits with a tiny butt and they're fucking, I was like, that is so corny. I haven't seen those. That's crazy.

Well, there's a whole. It's like, well, a little Barbie pussy that stretches. There's a whole show. Oh my God. So there's this genre of porn. It's, okay. C. C.

No, no. No, no, CFNM. CFNM. What do you think it stands for? Country, men's. No, no, no. Clothed female, naked male. Oh. And then, and then, and then, and adjacent to that is, like, miniatures.

So, like, like, fucking miniature women or miniature guys. Like actual humans who are little people? No, no, it's all, like, animated or whatever. Oh. Like, computer porn or whatever. But it's, it's very woke to be like, I'll watch the porn if the women can keep their clothes on. No, but it's, but it's, but. I stumbled upon it because I don't like hardcore porn.

I like, I mean, I like, like, Cinemax. I want to see them making love. Let's take a break. I want to see them making love. No, but it's like, I love gauzy. I don't want to see Jets. Film noir. But there's, yeah, like, I want lighting.

But there's this, it goes like this, like, it's like two women. It's like humiliation adjacent to it gets into that. But like, two women will be clothed and like, they're like, call a guy in to the office and then they say he's naked and he'll be like can I please put my clothes on and they're like no oh interesting that's it power oh it's like a shame thing yeah yeah yeah oh interesting clothed female naked male have you heard of sissy hypnoporn of course that queen from newcastle she's hipnoport majority short queen one of my love it's from majority show gin is dick in your son she's from newcastle like this dick in your son i think she made me

from newcast Sarah jessica car park is another oh that's a good but that's minivan driver Mini van driver. Mini van driver. There was a Toyota Corolla, but she died. But Toyota's not a real name. It kind of is. It's not. Is Beyonce?

Yeah. Is Courtney? She made it. I mean, Courtney's like, there's only one, I feel like there's one woman on the planet called Beyonce at the time Beyonce was named. Beyonce Nolz. Yeah. Do you think anybody else's name Beyonce? Now there is.

People's, imagine being some kid named Beyonce. Well, there was. Oh, so you think you're Beyonce? Like, it's that. You know what I mean? Who was it famous? There were other... Can I say, I know nothing's original.

I don't know why in Caucasian culture, we don't make... Why we all have five names? Oh, hang on. Oh, I love Brian. I love that, though. I like the Russian style. Sunday roast, I'm shame. I like the Russian style.

There's 12 names. What's your name? What's your name? Is your name shame? No, I like it. I like the Russians do it like 12 names. RuPaul. RuPaul's like mom made up RuPaul.

Why aren't our mom making up our names? No, they are, but they're McNavy in McDalton, in McR-R-A-G-H-L-E-E-I-G-N. And they're spelled B-R-A-G-H-L-E-E-I-G-N. I love a meet and greet when you're like, you're like, her name's like, Melanie. How do you spell that? Q-L-M-P-T, triple I. All the consonants are silent.

Ireland, those traditional Irish spellings of names or Welsh. That's so good. Yeah. I love learning how to spelling them and then I love learning how to spell them, and then when they say their name, just spelling it correctly and them just being gag. Yeah. Oh yeah.

I learned how to spell like three or four of the like. The weird. The really weird. Irish ones. It's the spelling. You have, unless you're from Ireland, there's no way you're going to know how they're spelling these names.

Or pronounced at all. I mean, Irish is so crazy. Gay, like Irish is so, it's so different. But wait, so are your parents ashamed of you? No.

I have the most loved. Lovely supportive parents. So how long of your parents hated you? And of course, Courtney's pivot is, my family is so loving. I need to reiterate this to you because this is a not, this is a common theme of this. Every time we do get together, it is literally like the yin, what do you describe it? It's the bizarro version. Yeah.

So like, it's not doppel getting here. Everything are gone right. Yeah. Yes. Gone right. Gone wrong. I mean, she makes, it's sliding doors. Sliding doors.

We're both Gwyneth Paltrow. Yeah. We're both Gwyneth Paltrow. So she gets the pixie cut. She get, I keep the brown hair. But like, and she comes over sometimes with her three suitcases full of vitamins. And wait, did you get into the peptides? You were the originator.

I did the melanitanto in 2010. Did you get a bonner? Did you throw up? Yeah. I wrote it because I wrote Mean Gays. My song Mean Gays, which came out in 2014, got played last night on Australian music video television for the first time ever. The Mean Gays, they live in West Hollywood. They're the mean, mean gays.

We had this conversation at Ice Cream last night with two of my gay friends. We're talking about mean gays and we go. And I don't like it. They're mean. They're not all of them. No, but there are a lot of. I mean, the song was written in 2014. You're only catching up now?

No, no, no. I know. I don't go there very often. And I don't, people aren't mean to me if they recognize me from the show. Otherwise, if they don't, they just push me over or run right through me. Well, I remember saying I'm like that dumb person who's like, oh, no, everybody. nice to me. I don't understand. Because you're a gorgeous white famous man. And then somebody was like,

watch how they treat somebody else. And I remember sitting in the smoking area and this girl asking one of them for a lighter. And he was just like... Get out here, you fat. Like to set her on fire and burned her to the ground. I was like, oh my God, you're right. And then the ambulance came. And they run over her.

It's crazy. And I was like, I'd never, I'd honestly never. I'm like that dumb. Like, everybody's nice to me. Yeah, because you're Barbie. That's like, Fina will be like, I hate that fucking bitch. And I'll be like, she's nice. And I'd be like, she's nice to you. To you. And I'd be like, wow, yeah.

And then, so when at what point did you, well, maybe the truth, you never had this, but when did you realize that people were being nice to you because they wanted something from you, whether that's a picture or money or whatever? Or sex. I mean, in 2010. You think people wouldn't have sex with her? I think a lot of people do. They do.

In 2010, when I moved here was when that, when I realized that. How could, did you develop a sixth sense? No, because I just think like if I'm having a good experience that I don't, I don't care. Like, I can tell if somebody's like, wants something. We love good experiences. I love good experiences. They just so rarely happen to us. I've been robbed.

I've been robbed in my house twice and on the street once. I've only stayed with you once. You've been, no, this is seriously. I've been mugged. Were you hurt? It was like a little bit of blood. Emotionally. A little bit of blood?

There was like three or four large men. in detail of the experience. It was... I've been fully mug. You're fully mug right now. Girl! That looks, Maxer, is out mugging you. Oh my God.

Does someone say mug? It was 2010 and I had like a Nokia monophonic phone. Vanity was doing... Nokia. Nokia, you call it here. Vanity was doing Turnback TimeShare at Slide. And she had forgotten... She was selling Tom Shares.

And I went back to her house to get the Bobby Pins. And I was walking up... With your phone, which is this big. It was like that big. And you had to use, like... Vanity's sending you home for a bobby pin. He's like, go find the unpublished Harry Potter book. It's so crazy.

Like, she can't find a bobby pin from somewhere else. Well, we're at the club. I need you to go to my house. Get on the train. Ride 40 minutes over. It was walking distance to be back. And I was walking up the hill, like, minding my own business, texting on my phone and three men came out of a dark alley.

And like, the next, I just... I was on the ground. That was the first thing I knew. With your legs in the air. Maybe this is how, like, I've encapsulated. trauma. But I'm, and I'm not trying to sound dramatic, but I remember being, I remember laying on the ground with them kicking me in the head. Oh my God. And I remember thinking, I'm glad they're wearing sneakers and not boots. Well, that's a perfectly reasonable thought. But you don't

think that when you're, I remember in the moment. Polly Ann over here. Yeah, I was like, I'm so grateful. She's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, let's look on the bright side. I guess I needed a new nose anyway. Like, like, I've been meaning to talk to my PCP. I want to go for my annual checkup. And then I got, they were like, give me a wallet. And I didn't have a wallet. I had a Gucci money clip. And I was like, but there was no money in it.

And they were like, give me a wallet. And I was like, it's a money clip. It's Gucci, please take it. And in the confusion, they were like, what? And they couldn't Google the value because it was way before. Not back then. And I get to slide. I walk in the door and Vanity's like, oh, don't worry.

I got the bobby pins. And she was like, are you all right? And I was like, no. Did you cry? Yeah. Of course you cried. And then she came, she did the number. And then she came to the police station with me.

She beat the shit on the room. As Turnback Time Share, because I had to report the hate crime. Where was the story 10 years ago, Corey? And then there's like a wooden pew in the police station. And I had to go into like the room where you give a statement. Vanity sits down and waits. I go into the room. I come back out.

She's taken off her wig and she's sleeping on it as a pillow on the pew in the police station. And I was like, that's a friend. Did she do any in character with the staff? Yeah. Yeah. I'm a reporter. My friend was killed. My friend was hate crime.

This is a travesty. We rewatched season seven last year because it was 10 years. That means it's 12 years this year. Up season six. When's the last time you watched it? I watched it during COVID. That's 2020. 2020.

And I, uh, what did you think? I really loved it. I mean, your runways are... You can't edit out a runway. You can't edit out a runway. And I got to say, I think season six in a lot of ways was the apis that we jumped the shark after that or it turned into something else. You burn the runway every time except for that red look, that thing on your face. But I had to make that myself.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything else was show stopping. I loved your wings. In a time before show stopping on the runway was really a thing. And also conceptual, they were all like... Klausenomi. Klausenomi. The giant hair with the Victor and Rolf Bed.

Victor and Rolf Bed. It was so cool. Incredible. Like references, like a full realized look for not just like drag queen look number four. Yeah. And great hairlines. Oh, and my Aboriginal and Australian flag gown. Oh, that's right.

You had to see that one. The wings were truly spectacular. I mean. They're now in a museum. I donated them to the Powerhouse Museum in Australia. The Powerhouse Museum? Fierce. So it's called.

And what else? What was your favorite look from your season? I mean, you can't go past the wings. Recently, it's so funny you're here. I didn't even know you're going to be here today. You don't know I was going to be here.

We only knew about you. Today, I'm gatekeeping. Just today, they showed me a clip of season six untucked because they had the last like real untouched. It was the one like iconic untuck.

It was the one where Gia was yelling at milk about her pregnant look. The one where she's like, drag is dressed as a girl and it's not giving feminine at all. Gia really went for the jugular on that program. I remember having a conversation with Gia talking her out of coming out as trans on the show,

like off camera. We were like talking about it. We're famously. She's very close-minded. She did J.K. rolling are like this. I was like, I remember like having this like weird conversation now in retrospect, especially that she is a trans woman. But I think she was like questioning at the time whether she was or wasn't.

And I was like, I don't know if this is the place where you really want to share that information. Yeah, that's probably, it was a smart PR advice. Lagange's breakdown. Oh, God. You were there. You were there. I'm sure it was. And also, we, I mean, not to make this about us, but like, you guys had a super glossy, highly produced.

Some could argue just as good as the show. Yeah. Untucked. I mean, iconic. We're Laganga stands as well. So many iconic moments. We walk in there. You got, you couldn't have understood what happened. I don't, Jen Stander producing it.

You do not understand what we went through. When we walked into Untucked and it was some, some area. It was surveillance footage of a parking lot. That's what we got. That's what we got. We got the last guy on top. An unused area of the sound stage with some five gallon buckets and some baked Cheetos. It was like humiliating.

There must have been a reason they stopped it. But for me as a fan of the show. It was so awesome to watch it. Untuck is so good. And now it's just like a key. Season 6, Untucked was so bucking. Season 6 is phenomenal. I mean, they literally.

cannibalized it for their next 10 seasons, all those moments. Because they had adore. Yeah. And obviously it's a great season, but it was a good untuck season because these bitches were at each other's throats. Yes. Yeah. I see comments every now and then like a Reddit thread comes up and you start reading.

And they always say lovely things about me on Reddit, which I appreciate. Yeah. It sounds like Donald Trump then. They always say I'm great. The same. The same beautiful. I read a comment that I agree with and I feel so vindicated where they're like, you know what? I just rewatch season six of Drag Race and Courtney Act is so beautiful and perfect until

episode The Rap Challenge and then all of a sudden she doesn't really appear in much of the rest of the season and even when I won the interview challenge like they were like somehow they edited that out as well and the only other thing that really happened was like her and jocelyn in a row and I was like I felt that too and I just love like reading oh in my memoir my favorite I was thinking about this yesterday, I wrote the drag race section. The chapter opens with, the winner of Rupal's Drag Race Season 6 is Courtney Act. And then it was like, stop, reset, back to one kind of thing because you film all three. Oh, yes, you film the fake ending.

You know about the gag, though. That they filmed Bianca and Adore doing a tie. And I was just like standing there like. They didn't film a Courtney ending at all. They filmed a Courtney ending, but they filmed everybody winning. And then they filmed Adora and Bianca tie. That is... It was very like...

I have thoughts about that because... That is humiliated. It was so humiliated. That is evil. For all stars... That's mean. The mean gaze. For All Stars 3, we filmed a tie for me and Kennedy.

But I also didn't think that they would do it. Yeah, but that makes sense. It's the top two. But then in the next All Stars, Trinity and Monet tie. And we never filmed the tie. I was there. We never filmed the tie. Frankensteined it together.

Yes. We never filmed a tie and then there was a tie. I was there watching it live with them and they were gagged. Yes. But I remember thinking like That's crazy.

Wouldn't you film a tie if it was at all possible? Well, that just goes to show you. This is a, this is, this is the, where are the people like, how come they didn't film a tie of you? Did I miss it? I honestly, it's like a scene in a movie

where like somebody unplugged like something really dramatic happens and somebody unpluggs the sound court And the movie goes silent, but you still see the action happen. Or like when the lights go out and the check gets changed. In the last minute. Was it hard? Did you want to cry?

I. In front of a studio audience. I would describe, like, I went through like, I went through like some sort of psychological something in the hotel room afterwards. I was checking lamps for microphones. Like, I got like paranoid. Oh, wow. That's like, pokey behavior.

My hotel room. She goes to a room. She goes, well, They want to fill my crowning in here. That's why they didn't do it. Let's get the lights in here, please. Should I just act natural? Should I get in bed?

Is Rupal coming here? She's already in the bed. Okay. Should I fuck her? She goes back to Rupal's in the bed with a towel on her head being like conradagulations. Becaboo. I had Simon Sherrywood with me. We didn't have any way to get like.

Was this when you were in the gold? Oh, no, no. I was like in a pink, not perspex, but like opalescent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh. I first I wore this like. Oh, which is to the premiere you were the gold. Who did you think was going to win?

Bianca, I definitely knew that I was not going to win. I definitely knew it was Bianca or Ador. I mean, when season six cut filming, we all thought... Ador. Darian was going to win because we were still a top of four. Oh, interesting. Yeah, that's right. Oh, that's diabolical the way they do that. I hate that. Yeah. And we all thought that each other could have won.

And I've checked with Bianca and Ador and I'm like, tell me straight. Like, am I am I deluded? And Bianca was like, no, I absolutely loved you. we were filming. I didn't hate you until I watched it back on television. I mean, I thought, like, I thought Ginger was going to win. When we all thought Ginger would win. When we left, when we left, yeah, we all thought Ginger would win. Yeah. So, so how, uh, it would, oh. It's funny because like, I went through, when I wrote my memoir, I wrote like so much. And then I didn't put a lot of it in the book because

I realized I was just venting it for this pod. I was saving it for this pod. I, I realized I was just venting and it was sort of like stuff I needed to process. And then I did one final, when I was recording the audio book, I was still able to make edits. Uh-huh. And I was reading. Yeah. And I was reading the drag race section. I was like, do you know what?

I just put that bit in there because I wanted to like, like revenge or like I wanted to kick them. And I was like, I'm going to take all those bits out. I did still say a lot in the memoir that I think maybe if I wasn't ever going to be on All-Stars again, probably definitely won't be after the memoir. Right. But I thought that it was all like Interesting

It's dishy It's it's I mean it's very dishy I mean it's such a I don't know I just feel like if you If you really didn't think you were gonna win It's it's not that you wanted them to do a crowning Because it sounds like you didn't think it would win

But you think the principle of them not doing one When everyone is like Like they can't run the tape for five minutes and just do it otherwise It's inconsiderate To me it's mean It is but also like I get at its teeth Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. But like, I knew.

They probably were like, we don't need it. She lost, right? Yeah, we don't need it. This ugly blonde bitch. Should we have a movie? She's kind of older? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, the one that was, what, 21? Yeah, she was so young. Violet was she won everything off Amazon. Everything she was wearing. She bought off Amazon. Girl, was she showed up, I was ashamed because when she showed up on All-Stars, she had all this stuff. I think it was from that Australian company.

What was that Australian company that? Sequent showstoppers? No. House of Priscilla? No, it's like... Cox and frocks? Chicks. No.

I forget. It's like a... Lee Cronin? Inside joke. Sorry. Sorry, sorry. It's such an inside joke. House of Ugly or something like that.

House of Priscilla. No, it's not drag stuff. It's like fashion. She said House of Ugly and you said House. You heard of Priscilla? Do you know what I'm talking about? Discount Universe. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes, beautiful, cool shit. Yeah. Where does the door? Get her clothes? Discount universe. No, it sounds like, it sounds like that cheap, that fashion brand lately or whatever the hell.

Fashion brand company. Yeah. It's like ironic. Oh. Yeah. They're cool. I saw it. Like, I peaked at her wardrobe, but it was like, oh my God, you're going to look so cunt this season.

And then she. We know how that happened. Yeah, she left. Which I think was really wonderful of her. I love quitting. You know, I think the golden rule in reality TV is that nothing's more interesting than what really happens. Yeah.

When people, When Ben left, we were just like, wow. Thank God. But like, I don't know. We're getting ready to watch All-Stars, too, like, this summer. Have you been on All-Stars? I've been on the second one. I mean, this was with the door.

That was where I was. It was like 10 or 11 years ago. I was trying to think this yesterday. It was 33 or four. Years ago. Yeah. It was 10 years ago this year. Fuck.

And didn't it come out in the summer? It's 2026 now. It was 23. 16. Yeah. So we're getting ready to watch that. And I'm excited to see it. How do you find watching it back? How did you find watching back your season? Seven? It was like, you're so young. I was like, it's like watching it happen to somebody else. Yeah, yeah. Also, it's like, I don't particularly enjoy my watching myself be mid. So like that's like, I can, like, the big flops. I'm like, oh God, that's so cringy. Or the, or the winds is like, great. But I was, I don't have a lot of mid moments. And that's just not fun. I find watching drag. grace back, this is an original thought I'm just having, so I don't know if it'll make sense. But like, you know when you go to therapy and you talk about... She doesn't. I do.

Childhood trauma, right? And you... Now... Courtney is my therapist. Right. No, really. When you... Something that happened to you in your past, at the time, you sort of put it in a box, not able to understand or deal with it. So it's sort of like saved us trauma. It's rattling around in your head until you come back as an adult with a therapist in a safe environment to unpack it, understand it from adult eyes. and reframe it and help sort of dissolve the trauma.

Or stick it on Rebecca Ferguson. Watching drag race back 10 years later is like childhood regression therapy. Because now you're an adult. You see that it didn't end. You see that your career went on. You see that people love you. And you watch it back and you're like, oh, this is all just a part of me.

And the trauma from the experience is gone. It's a bullet point on the fucking resume you have to conquer every single English-speaking country in the goddamn world. Amazing. When I watched it, I just remember being so young. young and so scared. And when you realize watching it from so far back now, it's like, it's a fun TV show. Why didn't I have more fun? Why did I like kind of ruin it for myself by caring too

much in the wrong ways? Yeah. If I could wish on my 24 year old self, it would be like, why don't you have a little fucking fun ho? Girl, it's not that serious. Oh my God. But I felt like it was so serious. It felt like, it felt like life or death. Well, because at that point, that was the biggest thing we'd ever done. And we didn't know what was nothing else. Because there was no all-stars yet. No. I mean, you also both did great on your seasons. So it's not like you'd regrets in your competing. No, I'm talking.

But I must want my home season two, though. And that was like, I mean, episode two, and that to me was like a fade worse than death. Yes. And it was like, it was like, it was like. It's worse than going home first. Yes, it is. And it's like, well, I'll apologize to all your buddy who went home second. But like the- We don't know who they are.

Yeah. Don't you think they'd agree? I, I probably. Yeah, probably. Yeah. But it felt like you're going out to war and you died. Yes. Like because. And then when it comes.

it's just like you don't know what you don't know. You don't know that your life is going to go on. Because let's be fair, for a lot of people who have been on the show, that was kind of the end. Yeah. Or they've done doing some gigs, but like some haven't. But like the three of us have been fortunate to like take it and make something else and grow and have great careers that we love. Yeah. Because we all have really tight pussies.

We didn't know that then. Yeah. Less tight this morning. Did you get fuck this morning? I'm not going to fart the same again ever Don't When you And you know she's got them weird

Vegan farts too Do Mary this person has lived with me You don't understand the pull my finger You don't understand The pull my finger Mary you don't understand Behind the scenes this perfect looking woman Is a rotted skunk

But they don't smell They don't That's why I hang out with manatee I want a lady A woman of cuth and decoro She has none of it. But she will waltz down the stairs in her tiny little shorts with her perfect tan thighs. And she'll be like in the kitchen glowing.

It's six in the morning. I come down looking like, yeah. She's like, pull my finger and it goes, sorry for the listeners. It's tighter than that. And then like a fresh spring rain. Like a lemon verbenas candle. I also, I also have citronella. Citronella.

No, nice. No mosquitoes left in the room. Lavender. It's peach balloons. Finch-Pillini. Meanwhile, I'm just, I go high, my breath. It comes out green vapor. I also have an enchanted butthole where I don't have to do sh-not ever, but I know what's going on. But you have, you're very in tune and in touch with your GI tract. I am. My microbiome is one of my most important assets. It's impressive. That's good. Yeah. The gut microbiome.

One time I came to Courtney's house and we made, I don't remember this, we cooked like a a vegan green chef meal together. Oh, yeah. She was like, come over and we just eat that. And it was great. No, I just had a flashback to Peatown, 2014, before you did drag race after. After. But maybe it hadn't aired or it was airing?

Was it the year we both worked in Peatown? Yeah. Yeah. There's that great photo of me laying on the ground in the Australia, in the Australia Aboriginal flag dress. And you're just like pointing and laughing. And I think like flicking flies at me. I'm throwing flyers at her on the ground.

It's like a parade. There's like a car or something. There's a Jeep behind me of the gay guys pointing and laughing to. It's just kind of fun to make corny feel bad. It is. I mean, for the first time being bullied and it was as a joke. It's like,

just kidding. We love you. Get up. Would you like some cash? Wait, so you were mugged and then you're just trying to. We recount all the trauma. So yeah,

you kicked in the face and then, oh, we got a wrap. But what would you say? Did they ask you that diabolical question? What would you say to little Shane? Did they do that on your seat? Yeah, they did. And I find, I've...

What would you say to Little Shane? No, what would you say? Why are you so little? Yeah, no. What would you say to dying Shane? Oh. Well, Little Shane, I have done this in therapy, right? And I've, like, heard about them talk about, like, your inner child and tell them, whatever.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I actually had this really cathartic moment in therapy where my, like, core trauma is, why don't you like me? And it's in high school, I'm, like, 15. And in my mind, I'm standing, like, all of the... the boys would sit there at A block. And I'm standing there looking at all of the boys and I'm asking like, in my mind,

like, why don't you like me? And that was always like the thing. Because like, mom and dad, very loving, very supportive, like grew up with a very healthy sense of self-worth. But it was always like, like, why don't you like me? And then also the unrequited love thing is a gay kid and having crushes on the boys. Well, you weren't sucking their cocks.

I know, but I wanted to. There's something very shitty about having to go through some of those formative, like, high school experiences, devoid of actual real romance. Going to like prom. Yeah. If you were going with someone

you have a crush on butterflies for, that probably is so the main part of it. Imagine? No, imagine fucking shit. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah. I also had crushes on girls though, like legitimate. Oh, right. And I would like write them, I was like pathetic. I'd like write them love letters and buy them flowers

and they would just be like, oh, damn. They'd like, okay faggot. Yeah, okay, faggot. And I think that's why I'm gay. Yeah. Those bitches turned you gay and those muggers made you... I'm an in-cell.

But instead of just not having sex with women, I pivoted and had sex with men instead. Catboys. What's a cat boy? Girl, the in-cells, they be having sex with them, cat boys. All right, we'll see you next time. Listen, I'm not here to educate you. Cat boys. I'm a white bald man in my culture.

It's not a joke. Next up, I'll interview a cat boy. I hate to be problematic, but I try to make people sell. things when they're on here. Is there anything people can buy from you? Of course there is. You know what I want people to buy from me? Gigs this summer in the United States. Because I am here in your country. And I feel like people don't think of Courtney actors being here and doing like bar gigs. But I did some bar gigs last summer and I actually love them so much because I don't have to do them all the time. They are his, I've been doing them to. Do wiggle gigs are turned. Do you lip sync or no? No. I actually think I want to try lip syncing

in a while. You should. I was going to say if you have a lipsticks in a while, it's fine. I have a lip sync since 2000 and you're going to get your life too. You know a lot of songs. Don't lip-sync your own music. Don't give him the Olivia. Give him the Kylie. Give him the Kylie. Give him the Kylie. Give him something to do. Because I look at Queens Who Lipsink. Like as a singer, you have to like not have fun. You can't go to the bar. You can't be loud. You've got to like protect your gifts. Sure, sure. And so I've actually have learned though that like wearing earplugs everywhere. I travel with earplugs everywhere I go. Like these tiny little ones, nobody knows I'm wearing them. And then I don't lose my voice because it's called the Lombard effect, where when you can't hear your voice, you project over the music and you just yell and you lose your voice.

But when you wear the earplugs, you can hear your voice. Do you lip sing when you lip sing, like so when you're in the car, lip syncing on the van back to drag race, because you know you're lip syncing that night. The girls told me that my voice, like I don't lips. She sings in a high voice. No, do the voice. I can't do it unless I'm listening to music, but it's like, I don't want to have a fan. Isn't that crazy? I was doing this gig recently.

If you go to one of her gigs and she's lip-synke, if you get close enough, she's doing that. But you know what happens when you're lip-singing into a mic and they leave the mic live? Oh, baby. Coco Jumbo and Vibe. I was doing this gig in Sydney. And I had in-air monitors in because I was like hosting this film festival.

And they were on like throwing to these girls on the stage. And they had microphones and they were lip-syncing to like, I will survive. But they didn't know their mics are live. like, oh, I'm alive, I will fly it. Long as I love and all right. That's you, girl. That's me.

But they, oh, God, that's so fierce. That's so fierce. I wish at your shows, the audience could pay extra for like a silent disco where they could wear headphones of your lives. I just see the isolated audio of your mind. All they would get is like sweat droplets and huffing. What is a pussy boy? A cat boy.

Cat boy. We're not going to, we're going to get to clip it. Cliff Hanging. Okay. Yeah, so book me. Book me in a gay bar. Go see her life. Like play Louisville.

What are the best drag gigs? It is. It is. Shout out to the play. Louisville and Nashville. Louisville, Nashville, they would turn out, and they would stuff your fucking pussy filled with dollars. I have done bebobs in Alabama like six times. Mobile. Mobile. More times than any other city.

I've done Mobile. That is a fun place. But they still smoke inside. Yeah. It's like a small, it's like a, it's a big square. Yeah. I remember it. There's a downstairs.

With Miss C. the she's like the diva that's been there for what about splash bar in panama city beach with the with the glamour shed i've never been there the chicken shack thank god no that's where miss fame had the hair clip all she lip syncinct tentacles tentacles now you're just fucking with us no tentacles haven't you heard of tentacles you haven't you had to be the host of anything cal off you have done the tentacles i've not done tinnacles i don't know what you're talking about tentacles she's a liar yeah goodbye have you had bianca and detox talk about tentacles no I'm doing it in July. Alaska's doing it in August.

Well, stay tuned. We'll be back with Courtney active if she does her tentacles. Yeah. Thank you. Give it up for Courtney. Thank you. Yeah.

See your tentacles. See you there. Get your wristband for the meet and greet at tentacles. Thank you.