The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - Elvira's Planet of the Glamazonian Ghouls with Trixie

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

In the twilight hush of a Burbank podcast studio, Trixie finds herself opposite the immortal Elvira, Mistress of the Dark: the legendary Cassandra Peterson! Upon the mist of their delightfully macabre conversation lays her infernal grimoire, "Elvira’s Cookbook from Hell", its pages reeking of brimstone and buttercream, whispering festive recipes that seem to writhe with unholy hunger. Through grins both wicked and weary, they discuss such varied topics as Joan Collins's languid bemusements regarding her ample bosom and their shared remembrance of Provincetown’s un-air-conditioned Post Office, where even the Devil himself would have perspired through eternity on it's steamy stage. From all of us here at The Bald & the Putriful, we wish you and yours a Hellishly Happy Halloween! Go to Leesa.com starting October 29th for their Black Friday Early Access Sale! You get 25% off mattresses PLUS get an extra $50 off with promo code BALD at ⁠https://Leesa.com⁠ To get simple, online access to personalized, affordable care for ED, Hair Loss, Weight Loss, and more, head to: ⁠https://Hims.com/BALD⁠ Head to Squarespace.com for a free trial, and when you’re ready to launch, you can save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain at: ⁠https://Squarespace.com/BALD⁠ This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try and get on your way to being your best self at ⁠⁠https://Betterhelp.com/BALD⁠⁠ Work on your financial goals through Chime today! Open an account in 2 minutes at: ⁠https://Chime.com/BALD⁠ Follow Trixie: @TrixieMattel Follow Katya: @Katya_Zamo To watch the podcast on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/TrixieKatyaYT⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out our official YouTube Clips Channel: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/TrixieAndKatyaClipsYT⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you want to support the show, and get all the episodes ad-free go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://thebaldandthebeautiful.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be amazing! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out future Live Podcast Shows, go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://trixieandkatyalive.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To order your copy of our book, "Working Girls", go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://workinggirlsbook.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out the Trixie Motel in Palm Springs, CA: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.trixiemotel.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Listen Anywhere! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   Follow Trixie: Official Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.trixiemattel.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@trixie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter (X): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   Follow Katya: Official Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.welovekatya.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/welovekatya/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Twitter (X): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠    #TrixieMattel #KatyaZamo #BaldBeautiful Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I haven't been to Hawaii in 10 years. Honolulu. Honolulu. Wow. Aloha. Tickets at tricksey and katy.com. Bye, Roach. Two extra special things going on today.

One, Katia's not here. Let's clap for that all around. Who's got here? Katia, exactly. And number two, we have. Cassandra Peterson in the house, Elvira. I can't believe it. Wow. Cheers. Your own team out there, not clapping. It's, it's completely difficult. That's depressing. Thanks, guys. That's support. Did you have a good time getting into Burbank today?

Yesterday. Oh, yeah, it was great. Four hours late, that's all. Oh, gosh. We're right by the airport, too. So are you flying to Burbank? Do you fly into L.A. I have shot right here before I did my Hulu special, I think, either in this studio or one right across the... I've shot some stuff there, too. They have a huge. You know what's funny. When I shot in there, their psych is so big, you can pull a car in there. Yeah, I know. And maybe you did that.

I did. My Hulu special, we used the Macawbmobile. Am I okay to understand there's two macabrobeals, right? There's multiple? No. There's just one. One. Whoa.

There is one that is a complete fake, not real Macawbmobile that goes around the country saying it's the Macawbmobile. Oh, my God. I was going to do that to Angelene, so I guess I'm not going to do that. Don't do it. I won't do it. Do you ever see it driving and do you ever walk up and is it kind of stolen valor? No, no, no.

When you see the fake Macawmobile, do you ever want to walk up to the window and be like, Hi, what's up? No, I just want to walk by with my key on the side. Right. No, you know, it was a weird story. I had my car made and then I later bought it and I had to have it fixed up. So I took it to George Barris, who is a great guy and he's done the Batmobile and he's done the Munster's car.

all these old cars, you know. He's passed away since. But really cool, nice guy. And then I had my car fixed up by him. And the next thing I know, they had made it a copy. While it was in there being fixed, they made a copy. And then they sent that car around, just like they do with the Batmobile,

saying it was the real carlet used in the movie and stuff. And, of course, it wasn't. I have the real car. Interesting. Kind of feels at worst, illegal, but, or at best, kind of shady. Oh, we tried to get him to stop in this. You know, it's pretty difficult.

It was just like, don't do it. And they kept doing it. I think you should, no Macrobobobile. I also think you should take back Hurses and the Batmobile. No more black cars. That's just your thing. Really? Okay.

Yeah. I think you have that kind of power. Thank you. I will. I was getting ready for this interview today, and I had a weird mix of pressure to make sure that our audience got to hear important things from you, but also comfort knowing that I think I know everything there is to know about you. Oh, that's good.

Well, you do the interview by yourself, Ben. I'm leaving. No, I'm so grateful you're here when I freaked out when I got the opportunity. I have things that I wanted to ask you for forever. And do you mind if we just go for it? You just go for it. Ask me anything. I watch a bunch of your archival, aka bootleg footage on YouTube, like every Halloween. I love to watch your interview on Joan Rivers.

Yeah, that was great. Have you seen that in a while? No, not in a million years. It really hits. It's so snappy and fresh. Really? You thought so? Y'all have such a good back and forth. Well, this is the funniest thing.

It was really weird. When I was in Vegas, okay, you're going to love this. I was briefly married to her. To her. Valet. To her. No, to a guy that helped her with her dresses and her makeup. Don't ask me why.

Did you think maybe, you know, most straight guys don't get into the dressings. Oh, no, he was completely gay, total queen. Love. And anyway, I don't know. We got drunk in a bar when I'm not. and we went and got married anyway. It's very easy to do that in Las Vegas, you know? Sure.

Yeah. So anyway, so I hung out at Joan Rivers' house in Bel Air a lot and with her husband, Edgar, and their brand new baby, which was, you know. Melissa? I was like, is there another baby? Yeah, no, no, it was just Melissa. But I hung out with them quite a bit and got to be very friendly with Joan. And I loved her.

I just loved her, loved her. And Edgar, I loved him. He helped me, actually, with my career and thing, we would introduce me to agents. They knew I was trying to get acting work in L.A. Sure. And Edgar really helped me. He was a very sweet man. The whole Edgar's story is kind of a nightmare. I think sometimes, like, there's no trick to it other than you need somebody who has a little bit of poll who will say your name. It's true. It's true. He said, oh, you ought to meet this person. Oh, go over there and you talk to them.

I'll tell him you're a friend and blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, I mean, otherwise, you're just showing up with 900,000 other people at interviews and, you know. Hoping and hoping, that's right. So, anyway, he was very helpful and he was very, very nice, and I really liked them both. But when I went on that show with Jess, I was expecting her to be her snarky Joan Rivers self. And instead, she was very, very nice to me. And I almost felt like the interview was really a dud, because you know how she's normally with people? She's really...

She kind of cuts into the but honestly with you, I felt like because you were there and you were in your drag I was also a Halloween episode so I believe Paul was down the couch from you.

And so it was a... You were obviously the perfect guest for that, of course, and you come out and it's drop dead gorgeous and it's, you know, it's like really good

magic late night television when you come out. It's so cool. Thank you. I love that, but I felt like it just missed the thing. I was sort of prepared

to get into like a cat fight, like fake fun like oh well joan you know trade barbs and stuff and then she was just nice to me sure so i guess i guess that was good but i don't know when i watch interviews of you with the male late night hosts obviously like they will talk about your figure in a way that's a little bit work around and with joan i guess what i liked about it is she could just be like okay let's immediately talk about the breasts you know and she just immediately was like i think she said when those things dropped there's going to be an earthquake in china love that i was like

Like, I mean, so fun. That was great. It was fun. And, I mean, I just love her. And I, obviously, you've seen her documentary. Of course, I mean, one of my favorites of all the time. Yeah. I read your book, of course, when it came out cruelly, yours, I believe.

Yours, Cruel. Yours, cruelly. But you almost got it. I bought it on my iPad. I read it on tour. And I just, you were so candid. So some of the stuff I knew, but there's a particular story of how you started Elvira. You talked about, I think, being freshly married.

and like outside of LA and you got a call and they were like come in for this and you were like I think I might just quit right? Yeah, which time was that?

It was like when you got the call to come do vampire at the time. Oh yeah, no, at the beginning when I went I yeah which was right over here in Hollywood you know. Yeah. Yeah, no I just thought

it sounded like the weirdest damn thing in the world but I thought oh well I'm pretty excited it's an acting job I'll be paid a couple hundred dollars I mean, I was very excited about getting any work that paid money then, you know. Right. But I wasn't excited about, my God, finally landed the role of a lifetime.

No, it wasn't like that. Yeah. I was like, whoa, dude, I got a gig that lasts longer than one day. Right. And I guess most drag queens think of you as obviously a drag queen, and we all loved you before we even knew what drag queens. I think of me as a drag queen, too. Right. And I guess for some of us, we come up with this character and start hawking it in gay bars, whatever.

And when I think of the way you did it, which is kind of reverse of like, you got this opportunity that obviously at the time you had no idea it was going to be such a long lasting opportunity. No, no, I really thought, God, I hope this lasts like two or three weeks at least, you know. So I can, you know, eat and live. Make some money. Pay my rent. Yeah. And I am obsessed. I'm just like, I'm obsessed with this thing you talk about in some of your interviews where you weren't able to maybe get financial raises.

at first. But you were able to ask for things. Could you tell the listeners about that? I think it's so amazing. Yeah, that really was lucky. And it wasn't just me. It was my lawyer. It was my managers, which was really a.k.a. my husband at the time who didn't really know what he was doing. But my lawyers said, you know, they're not going to pay you more. Why don't you just ask for the rights instead to have a fan club? Right. And you're going, oh, yeah, that'd be fantastic. They go say, we asked for that. Then, later on down the line, next quarter, they're not going to pay you more. But maybe they'll give you the rights for, to make T-shirts, you know, and merchandise.

Oh, that'd be awesome. And then that just kept going and going until one day we realized we had all the rights. Yeah. All the rights. So it was like little at a time. They knew what they were doing. I mean, they didn't know what they were doing. But they realized finally, oh, we just gave away all the rights.

And we owned them. and when they gave them to us, we signed a document and we owned them. I have always wanted to ask you about that attached to this question was, at which point did you realize the rights you were asking for had like real value? Like at which point were you like, oh my gosh, do they even realize that I'm going to be able to really count some money here? Like, do they realize that I have something really marketable? Yeah, it was a ways down the line. It wasn't, I don't know that we really realized.

But we owned the rights to something, but we didn't really know what, you know. I think we had a better idea of what, when one, I was invited on the Johnny Carson show, which, believe it or not, at that time, was the only talk show. I mean, there were little ones, Tom Snyder and things, you know. But that was, if you were on that show, you were famous, that's all there was to it. I'm still hoping I get a call. Well, you might. It's a very, at this time, and I recently was on vacation and had it on. very calming sounding show.

He has a very calming voice. Did you watch Late Night with the Devil, that movie? No, I didn't. I know the movie. I have not watched it yet. And if you're going to tell me to watch it, you're like the third person who's told me. I'm sorry. I asked Peaches on the phone today.

Shout out to Peaches Christ. I said, do you think she's seen Late Night with the Devil? I said I was reviewing her late night appearances. And I think she would love this movie. But it feels a little insane to tell El Vira to watch a horror movie. No, there's a lot of. that I don't get to. I've seen like a billion.

People feel responsible for you seeing every single horror movie that ever existed. It's just not possible. I try, I try. Right now I want to go see weapons so bad. And none of my friends

want to see horror. It's really weird. My partner hates horror. My friends don't like horror. I can't get anybody to go with me. And I feel weird sitting in a movie theater alone watching a horror movie

and they go, they're so virus. A virus here alone watching a horror movie. That's so sad. It's like the Elvira equivalent of like you at a bar at 4 p.m.

Yeah, it is. She's getting her fix. I know. I just don't want to do it, you know. Weapons, I think, is available to watch at home now. Oh, I hope so. Okay, that's how I can watch it without looking pathetic. Besides, your partner, don't tell them.

It's a horrible. It's a lovely romance tale. There you go. The kids will be. Yeah. And then she'll have my purse for the room next month. It'll be my fault. Oh, yeah.

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of bootlegs of you at your holiday, holiday, your Halloween performance at the farm. Not scary farm, right? Yes. I confuse that with Disney's not too spooky. I don't know what they're doing. It's like not too spooky medium spooky It's like salsa It's called the Halloween Haunt

Actually is easier That's what they called it How did you start doing that? Like right after it became Alvira I'd been Alvira for about a year They had Wolfman Jack doing this show Out at Knott's very far Did you ever hear of him?

No He was like a big DJ in the L.A. area He was really like Back a hundred years ago A really big deal Did he dress up? But a DJ No he just kind of looked like

wolf he had all the he looked kind of like a biker with a goatee and kind of the eddie munster kind of kind of convenient widow speak and uh they talk like this you know say hi everybody just a woman jack you know kind of like that so anyway you were like they had a little too much to drink most of the time when he was out there at the show so they decided to get somebody else to do the show who can we have who only have a medium amount of drink yeah well not me I'd say I was right up there with him. Right. But, no, but they decided to replace him, and they called and asked if I wanted to do it.

And they, you know, I was like, what do I have to do? And they go, oh, sing, dance, tell jokes. The first show was so lame. Oh, my God. I'm hopping around singing, oh, Frankie, you're so fine. You're so fine. You blow my mind. Hey, Frankie.

I have had Frankenstein. Right. Oh, my God. Really embarrassing and really pretty cheesy. But as time went on, the shows got better and better. You never saw one out there? No, I would... You would not believe it.

It was full-on, Vegas. Yeah, you were too young. You already were born yet. I was born just a few years ago, really. I watch it on YouTube. I think there's a bootleg of maybe your last year. And I remember you saying in the show, like, this is the last year.

So we're pulling all the stops. You pull the car out. There's this gag of yours that Katinae and I have stolen from you. And we are just like the Macrob Cumbobil. people who steal from you where you go off stage and then a rag doll of you comes flying across the stage

I love that so much it was a voiceover you're like how about these moves and they're just like throwing a ragdoll of you and they're just throwing me all around the stage

and I imagine you're backstage sipping a Coke being like how's the show going pretty good huh and there was I am having a cigarette and drink Red Bull we're

we then had one of the dancers a male dancer who was an acrobat come out and do hand you know what they call it Backflips. Backflips all the way across the stage. I wouldn't say it was exactly a convincing body double.

No, it wasn't at all. He was like a five-foot-tall Latino guy with tons of muscles, you know. Very mussely. So it really didn't, you know, but he's zooming across so fat. And of course, everybody knows it's fake, but it was hilarious. And I actually came up with that idea because in the movie, I had a body double doing all that stuff. I don't do back flips or anything, my God. But I did do this one thing where I was hanging upside down, and I was.

I was pushing away on the floor. Oh, yes. So it looks like I'm flipping, you know. So I said, oh, we got to recreate that kind of thing on stage, you know, where it's very obvious. It's a devil. But. It's amazing.

We act like we don't think it's obvious. When I introduce people to your work, which I've gotten to do, is like, obviously, I'll show them a film, but I love to show them one of your live shows. I also love that song once bitten. It's on my holiday playlist. Love that song. That's great, isn't it? It's this girl.

God, now you, oh, my brain. Oh, God, this is so horrible not to be. It's been a long time. But an English singer who did that song and wrote it, God, what's her name? Thank you, Lori Chaco. She's so great. This friend of mine, and she's like this six-foot-tall Amazon, East Indian woman with the white blonde mohawk.

Oh, wow. Just amazing looking. And I met her through a friend in L.A. And then we talked about her doing some music maybe for the movie. And she said, I have a perfect song. And so we recorded her doing it. But isn't that a great song? It's a great track.

She did a remastered it later. Did you say another version? I think I have that version. I think that's the version I have. It might be. It's really good. I just saw Joan Jett a few weeks ago. And it reminds me of like a Joan Jett track.

I love Joan Jett. I've seen her, I saw her 20 years ago. and I saw her just last month and I was like 20 years apart it's still incredible amazing I was wondering if she hates me or something because I don't know Susie from Susie in the band

she's hate hate me Why? She said I ripped her off and I was like I don't know I felt like just another punk girl back then we were all looking like that you know

Yeah how come maybe we think she ripped them off I ripped off vampire I ripped off Suna Bannes I ripped off Mortisha everyone You name it I ripped them And then there's people around driving your car Yeah bastards

Open off who. You know what I mean? Anyway, I don't know. It was a look, but I do love Chon Chet. I always. Love, obsessed. She did a show. She's on tour right now with Billy Idol.

And I'd not seen him before. That'd be so awesome. She's on tour. I wonder where they're going. I just saw them in Milwaukee. I was so like a movie. I saw a billboard of them while driving and like immediately pulled over and got the tickets. I was like, I'm going to this.

Oh my gosh. She opened for him, which, you know, it's really a double billing. Not Billy Idol. Yeah. He was great. I love Billy Idol too. Yeah. What does he live?

He was awesome. He was, I mean, this is back when he was... So gorgeous. Really happening. He was so gorgeous. Oh, my God. He was awesome. We had a lot of fun together.

Yeah. Wow. But he was great live. Hi, can I get Billy Heidel and get backstage and then meet Joan's your hat? Please. That's what I'll do. You should. Have you never met Joan?

No. Oh. Yeah, no. I just think you know everybody. I know. I sort of do. I've been around so damn long. I really have just met just about everybody on earth now.

Who has ever scared you? I mean, I think star-struckness is hopefully a universal feeling. Is there anybody where, like, I'm going to lose it? Like, what? You mean, it scared me in what way? Like, come up to you with a knife? No, like, Starstruck. Like Starstruck where you're like, I'm not going to freak out.

Hello, ma'am, huge fan. Oh, yeah, yeah, Michael Jackson. Oh, wow, yeah. I mean, I was, I couldn't talk. I mean, that was really a big deal back then, you know, and he had just come out with Thriller, which was the biggest song in the world. ever and I was just like

shaking his hand and shook my hand and he had that glove on and it poked really really hard it was like but they tried to be really cool you know

not style you know and it was like oh god got my hand and then and he goes oh I really love you

have I love you so much and I'm like Michael Jackson's telling me he loved me you know I couldn't even I think I was a stuttering like a blithering idiot yeah

this is a huge opportunity for you to just grab the glove and take a little piece memorabilia. I know, and they just run. Too late now. Too late now. I have another question.

But thanks for the advice. Of course. I'm trying to steal something of yours today if I can. Hopefully, can we talk about your cookbook? You have a brand new cookbook. Tell us about it. Well, it's so awesome. I didn't bring a copy.

It's not out yet, is it? It's out now. Yeah, it just came out. Yeah, and I did not bring a copy. I could kick my butt. She couldn't get one because everyone bought them all. That's right. They're all sold out. They are doing pretty damn well. I must say, I must say. I'm not surprised, right? No. It's great. I mean, well, I don't know. I didn't know. Are people going to buy a cookbook from Alvira? I don't know. I don't know. But I'm really happy. It was like number 33 on the 100 bestseller list on USA Today.

Love that. Yeah. People got to eat. They got to eat. They got to eat. And why not eat dead things? They do. Fun things. I also just threw a Halloween party, and it's hard to find good spooky recipes. Obviously, people are going to think of you as the authority of that. Yeah, I hope so. There are good recipes.

They're fun. They're easy to do. I mean, they have all, not all of them are easy. It's kind of like runs the gamut from if, like, you totally can't cook to you've got to be a really good baker, which I am not. Yeah, some of it was a little of the, I was looking at some pages online. I was like, all right, the tacos, Dios de los tacos. Yeah, which. Which my social media guy accidentally put Tia Delos, where it does so, the aunt of the dead.

The aunt of the tacos. But that could be me. And anyway, I hadn't changed it back to Dia. The first part of the ingredients is like, like, cook the short ribs, cook the short ribs. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Is there a chapter one here? Yeah. And then we have a vegetarian, a vegan version with jackfruit.

It tells us how to do the jackfruit. But that's really hard. I mean, the ribs are hard enough. But yeah, so we cook them all, we tasted them all. They're all really good. They're all fun. And like I say, it's for year-round entertaining. It's for that person that you know that Halloween is 365 days a year, which is me for sure.

Also, an entertaining guide, not just a cookbook. There are things, how to set the table, how to decorate, how to make little, you know, items. for the table and items to give the yes when they leave and I love a take home thing. The older I get when I go to a party I am like if you invite me over and there's no drinks and no food why are we doing this? I know I'm leaving this is the trap. Yeah me too do you know what I mean like I just do a Halloween party and my my friends were like you did all this I said yeah so now when I come to any of

your all events know that there must be something I'm not even saying you need to like have a stripper pop out of a cake. I'm not saying there needs to be a pig roasting in the front yard. But I'm like, you invited people over and, you know, those parties do you go to that don't have food or drinks? Drag queens. Seriously? Girl, they can barely open up the oven and put a rack of Trader Joe's entrees on there. And then they act and they make you feel like you need to be all grateful. I'm out here churn and butter. You know what I mean? Like, Airbnb. Last spring, I took an impromptu vacation and wandered to a secluded island retreat in the shimmering Pacific Ocean. It was a place I found on Airbnb where palm trees whispered in the breeze

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When I would go on tour, for a while on tour, I would get really in the mood of like, I just want to go to retro arcades and play pinball. I love to play pinball. I put in my headphones, I play, and I would always start. calling around cities and seeing like whichever one had yours i'll be like if they have yours then they're the cool one and they have the retro stuff they have the fun cool stuff i love that was it so wild when they just pulled out of i mean obviously you were involved in the process but i can only assume it's one of those moments who were like there's a pinball machine of me wow i loved it i honestly i tell people i felt like i won the academy award right i mean in my world pinball machine was like

holy shit you know i just made it i made it to the top Because I, it was so funny, in Provincetown, I spent like an entire year playing pinball every single night with my boyfriend and this little shack that's over there, this little. You bought a straight guy in Provincetown? Yeah. Wow. And he was a bartender at the A house. Love. I know.

He was a lobster fisherman. So somebody has to fish for the lobster there. They're going to send the gay guys out there? That's never going to get done. No, no, that's right. So you have to have a straight guy to get the lobster. Absolutely. And he and I went to this little fisherman hangout.

This is 100 years ago, okay, in the 70s where there was a lot more Portuguese fishermen, you know? Right. There's so few nowadays. There's so few. Well, there are because they've been priced out of Provincetown. Girl. That's the trouble. Nobody can live there.

All these poor people had to move 100 miles down the cape. It's great. When I hear people tell me like, oh, in the 90s, I bought my house for $90,000, I'm like, okay. In Provincetown, now it's like, I mean, truly a studio apartment, a million. million dollars? And you know, I did. I mean, he bought, he brought a lot of property when he was a young guy with his brother. And so he eventually did really well. He unfortunately passed away now. But he did really well. So, but he bought it when it was cheap as dirt. Yeah. And man. What years did you? I get a killing. I worked in Provincetown at the post office for. I worked at the post office too. I heard about this. Oh, my God. They had a picture you on the wall my first season. And I was like, oh, I love Alvira. And they were like, you know, she used to. shows here? I was like, no, she didn't. Mama's boys, yeah. Did they have good air conditioning then? No, God, no, none. Yeah, they didn't have it for me. We brought our own fans. It's just like sweltering up there in the attic. And people are in church pews. Yeah. This close. And they can see

sweat trickle. And you're like, how's your vacation? They're all half in the bag. And how to like the dressing room? I don't know if it's the same, but there's no dressing room. I had like, say, oh, Barrow, what dressing room? Huh? What dressing room? Yeah, there was not. I had to change eight costumes for my show. And I was changing, you know, off to the side behind a little curtain. Oh, my God. Well, I hope they were skimpy because there's not room for anything. Oh, they were very skimpy.

Okay, good. So they didn't take up much room. My first summer there, I got there. And, you know, I'd only seen shows in Provincetown. I don't know. When you had worked there for the first time, had you, I went the summer before and kind of scoped it out to see, like, what is a P-Town show? What are the people doing here?

Did you do that? There's some great shows there. Oh, yeah. No, no, because there wasn't even shows. I've got, like, my hair is all over the place. No, when I did it, there was not even, you know, well, you know who was there. Oh, God. Like Jim Bailey, I mean, the old first drag queens.

I'm trying to think of all their names now, but. Yes. And they were fantastic. I mean, they were like, oh, my God. No, we already had our show done. We just showed up there and go, God, I hope people here like it. I don't know. Did you bark?

Bark. Did you walk on the street and you hand out flyers and say, like, please come see the show? What? That's what they do now, girl. Oh, you mean that kind of barking? I thought you meant like, Arf, Arf! No, no, no. No, I think you would howl, right?

No, we sort of went around. We were in a little parade down in the middle of town, and we were all leather studs and straps and went down this and it was me and seven gay men. And so we told everybody, threw out little flyers, yes, said we were going to be at the post office. And then we didn't have to do the barking, thank God. Yeah, I did it my first summer. I guess you would call it throwing flyers from a truck barking. You're trying to walk by restaurants where people are eating and these people

don't haven't sold their tickets. They don't know what they're going to do. So if they see you walk by saying there's a show in an hour, they'll go, should we just do it? Let's do it. Yeah, I know. It's sort of, yeah. So that venue particularly, A, no air conditioning.

I mean, my first summer, I don't want to be gross. My corset started to get truly like mold because it's so hot up there that the wet costumes never dry. Oh, God. So at the end of the summer, you're like, we have to, like, exercise, like burn this outfit because it's so bad. So this venue, love this venue. Yeah, I love it. The last time I was there was there was Sir Barla Jean.

Yes. Oh, my God. Amazing. Funny, funny freaking show. But she just sat there sort of on a stool. She wasn't changing costumes or dancing. Well, she's lazy. She was so funny.

But she wasn't doing, you know, massive, you know, costume changes and stuff. Yeah. I think she's at, she's at, as of this summer, I saw her at Crown and Anchor. And Dina Martinez at Crown and Anchor. Love her. I love her too. But my opposed to have experience, I remember them walking me up there. And it's a smaller stage, I would say, no bigger than this set, right?

Yeah, no. Yeah, I mean. You and seven people up there? Yeah. Trying to dance. Smack at each other in the face. Oh, my God. There's some, I just got recently some clips of us doing that show.

Yeah. We were like standing so close to each other, just sweating. all over each other and doing, you know, singing and doing our show. Probably all standing like this. We were, we were. I got it, you'll see a clip of it someday where, I'll put it out, you won't believe it. Wow. It was there.

And exactly the space of this area right here. And no cell phones. And we were dancing and singing. And we had a piano on stage. No, you didn't. Yes, we did. What are you guys doing? I don't know.

I did a lot of my stuff laying on the piano. I'm not kidding. I hope you were casting like 90 pound four foot. gay men because I mean that stage is so small. One of them was six foot four to probably 200 pounds and then yeah. Do you still know, do you think you could give me his phone number? Is he available? They have all died. Oh, well, let's take a break. Isn't that great? I'm the only one alive, she's like, anyway, they've all died. I have a cookbook available for you guys. For all of your friends who died. I was not doing the cooking. I have one thing Pete just told me had to tell you which

occurred in the post office cabaret. I was getting ready for a show once. And this girl who was before me, I won't say who she was, but she was like a legacy drag queen who had been there many seasons. And I was after her and I was sitting back there, you know, the area to put makeup on is this big, right? You're sitting there putting your makeup on. And there's a curtain. And you can hear the other person's show. It's maybe five feet from you. And you can hear them stomping around. You can hear them breathing. I mean, you can hear all of it. And you're putting makeup on. You're trying to be quiet. I put my makeup on at home and then it came.

That's probably smarter. Thank you. So I... Just a tip for next time. I'm seeing there. bald as the day is long with like no shirt on trying to put makeup on and I hear her go yeah and Trixie Mattel's on

after this you guys like Trixie and the audience went which I'm grateful for and then she goes she's actually right back here do you guys want to see and she snatched back the curtain

and I'm sitting there at a vanity like you're the audience Cassandra and I'm sitting there with a makeup brush and I just go like oh my gosh and then she just lets the curtain fall

and I was a weird mix of mad but so so embarrassed and also was like, God. I also tried to get into the psyche of like, why did she think that was okay? That was so odd. In the middle of your show to yank back. Did you kill her?

We never discussed it. We never discussed it. You never discussed it? I'm too avoidant. Oh, I would have. Oh. What would you have done? Kill her. Well, thank God. Also, I'm shirtless. What if you were topless as a girl sitting back then you're like, hey. Yeah. And like without my wig on, you know, doing my makeup and, you know, my hair is all, you know,

pulled up in a little tight thing with bobby pins all over. Yeah. Yeah. I have, no, God. Oh, no, I'd kill somebody that did that. Kill somebody. I would. When I can't wait to check I'll. I'll, I'll kill her for you. Please, I'll give her your phone number. Okay. But it'd be an honor for you, for a gay person for you to kill them. Isn't that the dream? Yeah. I was killed by Alvira. That's how I died. It was awesome. You have to do it if they do that to you. Yeah. I have to ask you, obviously, I can't wait to check out your cookbook and I hope everybody checks it out. But when I read your book, you were so candid. And for a long time fan like me who thought they knew everything, it was really

deeper. It was, you were so open. Thank you. And, you know, gays, we always like it deeper. So it's very vulnerable. Don't we all? And I don't know if it's okay to say, but I really thought. That's what they said. That's what they said. That's what they said. That's what they them said. Yeah. Yeah, okay. I just went, the way you talked about being not entirely heterosexual, the way you, it was like very banal information almost, the way it was just factual, the way it wasn't a rocket going off, I kind of thought really was like the way to discuss that of the future.

It was like, don't we all want a world where like this is, this is the type of relationship I have and it's like passive, almost like non-information? I felt the way you presented it was so oh yeah and there's this anyway the next day I had my wig on you know I just thought that was so beautiful thank you

it's very funny you said that and you know my manager might he might have gone off and disappeared no no stay back to that is that too much to say we can cut that it's very odd on the way no on the way here I was talking to my manager about my dad and I said

you know my dad just like if somebody pissed him off. He would kill them. Right. He was like, and, but I said, my dad would say the most embarrassing things to people. Like, we'd be in Vegas and he'd go, somebody that worked in the show or a celebrity and go, well, how much money do you make? You know, and I said, he would just say, and Scott said, yeah, he just had no filters. He just, I mean, he just said, this is what it is. This is like it is.

You know, no bullshit. Yeah. And when you say that to me, I kind of feel like, hey, maybe that's something I got from my dad. Yeah. Just say things that happen. And, like, is what it is. When you're going to lie about it? People will find out later.

You know, you're going to make it up. They'll find out. You're going to, I don't know. Just say it. What do you have to lose? Right. Unless you did something bad, you know, stole someone's money or something. Don't tell them that.

I guess, I mean, for a public figure, it's like if some people, when they share that part, part of their love life or the type of love life they have, they go on like a press tour for it. Like, and the way you disclosed it was really like, just like, oh, by the way, anyway, here's the next page of the book. And I just thought it was, not that you didn't touch in an earnest way, but I thought it was like so cool. Well, thank you. Yeah. Well, it just basically happened.

I bet. Yeah. And I was thinking the nice thing about a relationship to him, a meeting is that all my life, I was thinking about drag queens and makeup and I'm slapping on makeup, you know. The day, and I'm thinking, the nice thing about my relationship with her is that she saw me at my worst every day. I was at the gym. I didn't have any makeup on. I was sweaty.

We got to know each other for six years, you know, working together. And I thought, I'm not doing this phony, tons of makeup to go out and, like, trap a guy, trick one, you know, and then later he sees you, you get married and you look, you know. Right. No makeup, everything. They're like, oh, God, when I'm married. You know, and I thought, she just saw me. me like every day as a real person and it was very comfortable and very i knew what i was getting she knew what she was getting and yeah it was nice uh you know i'm i was sick with my husband

leaving the toilet seat up all the time that part right just you know got to me finally well if you ever need anybody to be in love with you for when you're all dressed up i'm here for you that okay okay i do thank you so much for coming on the ball and the beautiful yeah thank you this was super fun i'm a long time long time in my review and i will support you i'll go to a hell for you. I love you. Wow. Well, I love you too, and I think you're incredibly talented. Can you tell people this is your cam? Tell them exactly where they can get your book. You can find my cookbook, Elvirus cookbook from hell, which is really an entertaining guide. And my new children's book, that's right. I've got a children's book called Elvira's first book of

monsters. You can find them both on Elvira.com or at any of your finer local bookstores. Thank you. promptu vacation and wandered to a secluded island retreat in the shimmering Pacific Ocean. It was a place I found on Airbnb where palm trees whispered in the breeze and the horizon resembled liquid gold at dawn. While sipping my coffee on the beach one morning, I had an epiphany. My own home could welcome travelers of its own while I'm away. Why should I let its velvety comfort sit idle when I could host it on Airbnb? I could share every mysterious corner and moonlight balcony while I journey across the globe and earn extra income to fund my dreams,

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