The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - Irene The Alien's Ephemeral Visit to the Terrestrial Realm with Katya

Episode Date: September 30, 2025

Irene The Alien travels across the cold infinities of space for a brief descent to converse with the singular earthling amongst earthlings: Katya. They discuss, with the tranquil gravity of deep space, the paradox of her early ejection from the Drag Race mothership, the chromatic splendor of dresses that gleam like auroras on a methane sea, and RuPaul’s rapt delight in immense mortal metamorphoses. Together they plot the firmament of cinema itself, ranking films as one might classify galaxies. Some are mere errant asteroids, whilst others are colossal nebulae of artistry. Enjoy this communiqué as a meditation on both glamour and exile, drifting endlessly through the black and star-strewn silence of space. Check out Leesa's Fall Into Savings deal: 20% off PLUS get an extra $50 off with promo code BALD, exclusive for our listeners. Head to: https://Leesa.com Work on your financial goals through Chime today! Open an account in 2 minutes at: https://Chime.com/BALD To learn more about Google Gemini and sign up, head to: https://gemini.google/students Follow Trixie: @TrixieMattel Follow Katya: @Katya_Zamo To watch the podcast on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/TrixieKatyaYT⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out our official YouTube Clips Channel: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/TrixieAndKatyaClipsYT⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you want to support the show, and get all the episodes ad-free go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://thebaldandthebeautiful.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be amazing! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out future Live Podcast Shows, go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://trixieandkatyalive.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To order your copy of our book, "Working Girls", go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://workinggirlsbook.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out the Trixie Motel in Palm Springs, CA: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.trixiemotel.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Listen Anywhere! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   Follow Trixie: Official Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.trixiemattel.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@trixie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter (X): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   Follow Katya: Official Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.welovekatya.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/welovekatya/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Twitter (X): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠    #TrixieMattel #KatyaZamo #BaldBeautiful Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Air Transat Hi Divas, Katja here Since Trixie is off to Turkey getting those hair plugs because she desperately wants to look like me I'll take the reins and letting you know that we're going to be doing our final live bald shows of the year In October we're in Canada

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There's no baldness today, but there's two times the beauty. Oh. Oh, yeah. We have, well, Trixie's in Turkey getting her hair plugs and her tummy tucks. Oh, just airing her out. Wow. Her tummy tuck? Yeah, she's getting, she's getting the old-fashioned LIPO, and it's all-inclusive.

Yeah. You go to, it's like $3,500. They fly you out, pick up at the airport. $3,500 for LIPO? And the plugs. And then you stay at like a three-star resort hotel for like two weeks. $3,500. For LIPO.

And, well, it's in Turkey. So the exchange rate is very favorable these days. It could be $4,000. I'm not sure. But you want to know what I paid for LIPO? No. Okay. No, no, no, I know, no, you let me talk.

Sorry. My God. This is my podcast now. I've been trying to introduce you. While Trixie's away getting her jaw rewired, we have a special guest, a drag race alumna, who you know and love. It's Irene the alien, Ney Dubois. Welcome to the pod. Thank you.

Thank you for having me. It's my pleasure to be here. You look fantastic, and I just want to say that I'm very sorry that I was 35 minutes late. Hey, you know what? Honestly, I was expecting longer, so this is a pleasant surprise. I do have an excuse, though. I now have, I've got to do my hair. I can't run out of the house with wet hair.

The style looked like it took forever. I mean, it's not, it didn't, it's just the drying. I don't know how to use the hair dryer. You don't have the diffuser yet? I don't even know what that is. It's a whole new world. I'm so new. What is a diffuser?

It's like an attachment for your hair dryer and it makes the hair dryer. It's softer air so that you can like get the scrunch, the TikTok hairstyle. Soft hair. Soft hair. Soft air. Yeah. Like hard water. Soft air.

God, the water in L.A. Is hard as nails. I do not envy you. I feel slimy. Okay, so let's talk about the water in L.A. So super relatable subject to everybody listening. Now, how does that manifest? You said in sliminess?

Yeah, so when I shower in Seattle, after my shower, I feel clean. But when I'm in L.A., which happens way too fucking often, I feel... I still feel like I have residue on my body. You got scum on you, really? Yeah. Now, so is that the reason that I'm having such a hard time squeegeeing my black tile in the shower? 110%

I actually I wouldn't know I've never cleaned a shower in my life but okay well like so say spots yeah mold not mold

grime we don't talk about mold we don't talk about mold here like like a residue yeah is that from hard water that could be from hard water

okay yeah have you never squeegeed you never done anything like that in your life before I am a very resourceful person but one thing I cannot do

very well as clean, so I outsourced that. Okay. Well, you're an alien, so I would imagine. I don't understand Earth chemicals. God, honestly, the brand is so strong. Do you tire of it? At this point, I'm like, I have painted myself into a corner. Yeah.

Because I go to the gig and I'm like, I'm doing my Liza Minnelli number tonight. And everyone's like, they're all dressed up like E. Yes. No, they show up with space buns. And I'm like, sorry, kids, I'm not doing that shit more. You've got cone heads in the audience. Yeah. I love that.

I relate a little bit. Because, like, I kind of, like, for a good long time, it just, like, gave up on the Russian thing totally. And I was like, people just show up with a hammer stick. I'm like, I'm good for you. I'm doing, I'm doing Kesha. I'm not a communist. I'm so sorry to tell you. Totally.

So let's talk about you. Let's do it. I love it. It's my favorite. This is an outfit that I did not bring today. I borrowed this from the neighboring studio where Bob the Drag Queen. Get out of here. Oh, beautiful studio, by the way.

Beautiful studio. Beautiful studio. Gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous studio. Very enviable, that studio. This had the tag on. on it, so she was more than willing to let me wear it. That was from a store? This is a $50 dress from a store.

Get out of here. And I did have this wig. The wig is mine. But, yeah, it's lined. Lined. Gagetronra. Champagne. I would call that.

Champagne. Yeah, totally. And I have a silver shoe, which is close enough. We're mixing metallics in 2025. Yeah, but I did change my gold earrings to a silver earring so that I feel... That, I think, was the right choice because the accessories got to match. 100%. But I had this outfit that I was cinched for.

And as I was waiting for you to arrive, the cinch became more and more difficult to deal with. And I was, well, so I had to be cinched because the dress that I was going to wear is actually one of Violet Chochie's old dresses. Why would you ever? Well, I bought it off a girl who bought it off a girl who bought it off a violet. And by the time it made it to me, it was only $200. So I was more than happy. What did it look like? It's painted on my body, bitch.

Well, yeah, but that doesn't say anything. It's like pink and gold and black, and it's like a little, like, cut here and then, like, cut right above the puss. Okay. And then I have big shoulders like Violet, so I had to hide it with a jacket. I'm a huge little. I'm a big old man, just like Violet. She does have very, she has broad shoulders. Right.

Well, she's, you know, she's not petite. Get you a man who can do both. You know what I mean? Yeah. But Bob sent her a picture of it, and she said, how is whoever that is able to fit into that dress? You know, this is. sitting gig. Yeah, well, and that's what I realized.

I was sitting and I was waiting for you and I was like, I'm going to be mad if I have to wear this time later. We're not showing off our weights on this show. Plus, people are in the car. Right. No, no one's watching this anyway. So if I look like, what's her name from Dynasty? Crystal Conner.

No, no, no, no. Joan Collins. If I look like Joan Collins on the Bald and the Beautiful Podcasts. Is it Joan Collins or Joan? It's Joan Collins and her sister's Jackie Collins. Jackie Collins. That's right. I was going to, I love, oh, I wish, you know, you could, I could do a fabulous, um, Crystal.

No, no, no, the, um, Linda Evans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you could do, yeah. Honestly, I'm shocked you haven't. I know, well, you know, it's, it's not easy finding that hair. There are people who make hair. I know, but it's got to be, that is a very particular bob. Yeah, it is a very blown out.

It's a big, fat page boy. With the goofiest bang, the Sabrina Carpenter bang. Huge goofy bang. big. I mean, it is a very voluminous and it's that ash blonde that's almost gray that you can't ever find. This one needs a little bit of a tonic. Well, this is 613. Yeah. I have purple shampooed it.

Have you? I did. I purple shampooed it because it was a little bit more yellow. It's giving twink and crisis brassy. Oh, you think it's that brassy? Really? You look like your boyfriend broke up with you and you're like, I know it'll show him. This is the 40-year-old I'm going to dye my hair blonde, gay moment. Sure. Which I'm still with it? Yeah, like, I can hang.

I have a friend, it's, it is funny. I have a good friend of mine just died his hair blonde from Jet Black. And he's 41 and I'm wondering what's going on with his life. Nothing good. Nothing good. So I was asking you earlier before we were rolling if they still said hard ice on drag race and you said no, they don't on the All-Stars without giving too much like how the sausage is made away.

Like what is the difference between regular season and All-Stars in your experience? I just think that they are a little bit. bit more aware of the fact that we are working professional drag queens on All Stars. Okay. And so we're treated as girls, I mean, obviously, my experience of being on a regular season of Drag Race was very, very short because I went home first. But we were treated sort of like cattle on regular drag race.

And on All Stars, they were sort of more like, thank you for being here. Yeah, a little more human eyes. But they've changed the way that they store us, you know. Have you heard this? Store. Our cryogenic freezers are different now? Yeah. Your own racks of refrigerated.

No, our Matrix tubes that we're kept in when we're not on camera. When they're feeding the tube down our throat. Yeah. Well, they have to shut us down so the story doesn't develop. Wait, wait. How did they store you? There's a trailer park. They have a trailer park with like 15 trailers and there's a common area where we can all hang out when we're like chilling.

You can hang out on camera? We can hang out off camera. Interesting. And there's a trailer park. Where? Across the street from the studio. Where is the studio? I'm not going to say it on camera.

So they store you in a much more humane is the word you're about to say. And so going home first, tell me. Nasty. Wouldn't recommend it. Right. Of course not. But like I went to tell me what exactly like, give me the whole full psychological profile of you of that experience. It's sort of like everything positive you think about yourself just gets flushed down the toilet.

Yeah. And it was crazy. In the moment, I wasn't really super broken up about it because I was like, I have, like, a full, I've been a full-time drag queen in Seattle for a really long time. Yeah. I've got a great career to go back to. Sure. I have a lovely boyfriend who, you know, everything is going super well with that.

I have, like, amazing friends. And then I got home, got eliminated first. My boyfriend moved to Spain and broke up with me. And all my friends turned on me because, um, I was so unhappy with, it was crazy. So I was like, oh, everything's going wrong. Wow. So my life kind of fell apart. And I, you know, oh, I was weird.

Because Trixie and I have been re-watching season seven. I've been watching. It's, I, in my experience, there's really no way to, on the first season, like you're saying, you get the experiences more humanized and you're familiar with it on the All-Star season, but in the first season, I felt that it was very do or die. It was very, very, very deadly serious. And, I mean, even at the point of like the second, say the end of the first, episode, when you're dancing at the end of the lip sink, you've been there for a little bit.

Yeah. Like, you've been there for several days. The first episode took a week to film. There you go. So, like, that's insane. So even a week on Drag Race with no phone, no contact in a barn or in a cryo chamber or whatever, you feel like it's your, I or I felt like it was like the most important thing in the world. And it was very, very, like, I, because I thought that, like, and I think that going home second

is harder than first. That's just my opinion. Yeah. A lot of people share that opinion. Because I think because of the just because of the memorability factor, like at least it's like, well, I was shot for, like, so you have that impression. Like, you make an impression. There's a word for it, right? It's, worst chop. There's not a word for second out.

Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. And also, it's like, it can be a fluke. Because there are many girls. As I have proven. There you go. No, seriously. Like, because there's, there are some, it's kind of bad love. like you could be you could have a huge skill set have a huge personality and then you just fuck up or you just like you know you're driving down the street and you hit a you get a flat tire

yeah and it's um and it's not your fault and it's a bummer and it's it doesn't necessarily like i mean i don't think getting eliminated from drag race is is you know it's not like a doesn't mean anything about you but like it can certainly like you can feel wounded as a drag queen but yeah i think it's um it's it's it can be like a fluke in there And you could be an incredible queen. It's just a bummer that people didn't get to know you. Yeah. I mean, I think for sure.

When I was there and I was getting eliminated, I also was on the first season in years where the person eliminated first was actually eliminated first. So as it was happening... Wait, what does that mean? Season 12, season 13, season 14, they would eliminate someone and then bring them right back. It was like a fake out.

Or they would just like go through several episodes before eliminating someone. Right. So they eliminated me and I was like... Oh, okay. Yeah, you're like, I'll keep my back. I'm going home. Yeah, you're like, and then they're like, well, I walked off the main stage, and I'm like, so your flight's on Wednesday, and we need you not pack right now and do untucked right now.

And it was like, wait, this is really happening. And for the next, like, 24 hours, I was still there because I had to film confessionals and shit. And I kept waiting for someone to come in and be like, you're back. Yeah, like, psych. And it never fucking happened. Off camera, did you cry? Are you a crier? I didn't cry until October.

I was on the beach with some friends. we were on vacation at a cabin and we all took shrooms and everybody else went inside and I stayed on the beach and okay it might have been in November because this was after my boyfriend had broken up with me and on shrooms the weight of everything that had happened hit me all at once and I cried so violently and viscerally that I got nauseous

and I was like dry heaving on the beach and I had to call my mom and be like I just need you to sort of trips it for me over the phone while I like expel every emotion I've ever had it was crazy I know I totally

I know that that sick that that I know that very well It's the only time it's ever happened to me I'm not a crier I'm not an emotional person like that It's um I

oh gosh yeah my friend said it was like you just mentioned that it was you can think about it like if you think about it like you're actually like expelling like crap from your body then it can be helpful

but it's not certainly not pleasant in the moment No, but there was a cathartic element to it. I was kind of like happy to have accessed it because I had been holding on to it for so long that I was like, oh, afterwards. I was like, oh my God, it's out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like being constipated after being,

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Thank you. It was a bad season. I didn't watch it because of that. They needed. What is the last season of Drag Race you watched? No. Stop it. Everyone.

What are you talking about? You're like, thank God that my podcast is not a Drag Race Recap. There are too many of them There are too many We don't need to add to that No, I've watched a bunch Sure, why not? Every one of them

Uh-huh You, when you're on the pit stop I listen You have to watch the I get accused of that all the time They sit there and make you She didn't watch the episode What do you think I was doing?

They literally like glue your eyeballs To the screen You watch it You watch it seconds before you're on camera Because it's like what They're gonna trust you to do a homework at home No anyways obviously It's not even out yet

You don't have access to it. Yes. You're the only ones that do. Have you seen my episode that I got eliminated on? I have not. That's probably for the best. Your opinion of me will be much higher because of it. Listen, I'm a person who is, I'm a flake.

I'm lazy about work, not about other things. Only the things that are making you money. Well, yeah. If I have to do something, then I immediately don't want to do it. Do you know why I got eliminated? Because you were from a different planet and you didn't qualify. Or were you in Dubois then? I was Dubois then.

Okay. When did you take the, when did you sort of right after? Blast off. I was like, I need them to not. When they Google, Irene Dubois, it's going to come up. You burned your passport. So I was like, we're changing, uh, witness protection. No, I did.

Why were you eliminated? And listeners, please don't, don't be, you know what? Keep your, you just keep your mouth shut, okay? No, it's kind of, it's fun to like, no, I don't want to be mad at me that I didn't do my homework. No, I don't fucking give a shit, dude. And I don't want it to reflect on you. because I think you're a lovely person

and I can't wait to get to know you This 10 minutes we've spent together You're already in love Well I mean you're always so gracious That I was 35 minutes late So that's a great start Could you imagine if I went on the most Successful Drag Podcast ever

And was a diva about you being late? I would, yes, I think that would be incredible Should I have been? I don't, yeah I mean Is my time not as valuable as yours? Put me in my place Like make my face go red That would be amazing

I'll just dom you Yeah yeah yeah I um We had a talent show Okay so this stresses me out It's the worst challenge It's, it's, it's, I, listen. That and Snatch Game.

Mary, we started the talent. Yeah, we started the talent. And I'm not to, I'm not to cut you off, but I will, I will just say briefly, we got a call from the producers before, you know, because they gave us, what three weeks. And about two weeks, they're like, hey, what do you think about a talent show? What do you think about? Yeah. Like your input mattered? No, yeah.

No, seriously, because they're like, what would you, like, we're thinking about like a talent show. What would you do for a talent show? And also, and they really wanted to, it was a logistical thing. Like, they said, like, you can't lip sync to Janet Jackson because we can't get the rights to that song. They told Coco she could do it, though. No. Oh, oh, gosh. My gosh.

But see, that's like, so that was, that was unfair to her, I believe, because Cocoa Montreis is an extremely talented drag queen. She's not a carpenter. She's not like a- Don't judge a fish by how it climbs a tree. Exactly. Put that on a fucking bumper sticker, you bitch. just my new merch, you can get it on my best judy.com. Yeah, and so, exactly.

However, like, you know, it is a strange thing to do what she did. I think it was performance art. I would have given her the top prize, but, yeah, that is a tough. To me, I get, I get, oh, I get, like, I get full body chills. You get the willies? Yeah, I get full body chills. Full body chills. What did you do, and what happened?

Okay, so at the time that I got to do a talent show, you know, we're many seasons into the talent shows, and it's become very clear that what people are starting to do is lip sync to an original track. Talk about it. They love it. You know who loves it even more? RuPaul.

RuPaul loves it. The only thing she loves more than a black cent or someone losing a ton of weight is... Loves someone losing a ton of weight. She just loves when that fatty slings down, she gets hard, boned up. She is bricked for that former fatty.

There's a season from the first episode. where she goes, well, you look great. Tempest. So you lost 6,000 pounds. That's incredible. Thank God you did, you nasty former fat fuck. You know, it's just crazy. No comment.

No, no, no, no. We're exaggerating, of course. I'm still trying to get invited back.com. We're in love with everything she does. So, but yeah, so go ahead. So my idea was I'll really gag them and do something super subversive and to the complete

opposite of a lip sink. Wait, I think I saw this. The glass of water. I love that. I thought, it is your type of thing. I love that shit. It's your type of thing. And I thought, have you ever seen Pickle Surprise?

Of course. I thought that, it's a surprise. I thought that the woman who was a part of Pickle Surprise. See, that's not that woman. Have you seen her TikToks lately? Oh, but see, um, she wants to be an alternative queen again so bad. Which one of you bitches is my mother? When she, where's that shirt to me?

I have that. I know. The one, the one we're talking about Rupal's Instagram, and she, if you take a look at her Instagram or maybe her TikTok, too, I don't know. I look at her Instagram. Her Instagram is filled with silly, silly, silly, silly videos. My favorite is when she opens the door and then she's there with her purse on her head to the side. And she's that, can I help you?

Do you have a question? And then just, it's just, have you seen her pulling out the La Ruru? I have. I don't, I don't love that because. I cannot stand. I don't even want to say the word. Say it. LaBoubou.

I can't. Yeah, fucking say that shit again. I think it's another sign. Another sign. Just one of many signs of the end times. They're already upon us. Did you feel that way? If you have a Labubu, I'm going to kill you.

Did you feel that way? I'm going to run you over with my car. I got tipped a libou and I gave it away. Thank God. To a friend. You don't touch that shit. You just kick it. Did you not like a Beanie baby?

No. I'm, I'm, what? What do you think? What the fuck do you think I was doing when I was 13? I was drinking blood in the dark. Right. So true.

Beanie baby. Beanie baby. What do you do? Cut a hole in it and fuck it. It's not. It's filled with like jelly beads. No, it's filled with like sand or something. No, no.

They're big in that. Yeah, they're not getting in that hole. Okay, okay. Anyways, so enough with the fucking toys. RuPaul's Instagram, but, oh yeah. She's, RuPaul is on the main stage. There's many versions of RuPaul. Sure, but she wants to be a freak again.

She's sick. of this. No, but she is a freak, but she can't be. Right. She doesn't want to wear the corsets in the gowns in the room. She wants to be pickle surprise room. Yeah. And so I thought that I was appealing to her better half. But she, it just didn't, it didn't, it didn't, it didn't, it was my fault. It was a big swing. It didn't work. And it didn't work because it was a shortened version of an act that I have done successfully, but the shortened version was not successful. Well, see, that's the other thing is that you've got 60 seconds or 90 seconds. 60. 60. I mean, yeah, There's the girls who, you know, I have there, has there been a girl who's gone out there and done like a tight one?

You can't. You can't. That's not a thing. You can't. It's not a thing. For a reason. If I had been smarter, I would have realized that any attempt at comedy is just going to be unsuccessful unless it's in musical form. This fucking fly.

Now, my, my, my, my flag would be like grabbing the fly and eating it 60 seconds. I tried to grab it, karate kit style. A little lizard. The, I wish, like, you know what mine would be? I would try to, I would have to, I would try to snatch my own eye out and eat it. It would have to be obviously, yes. That's fun. Like, like, um, no one's done magic.

Or like, step on it with the toes. I'm at the point now where I think I have, because you know, you're, once you reach a certain level of success in drag, you've like proven yourself. You have a lot more fun. I know what you mean. You can have more fun and there's more room to play. Yeah. So I, my most recent talent show, I took it seriously.

If I ever went back and had to do another talent show, I would take the piss again. Yeah. Because I think part of the problem was that they weren't familiar enough with me to understand that, like, I'm taking the piss fully. What did they think you were doing, just fucking dicking around up there? They thought I was trying to make them belly laugh, but I was more trying to be like anti-humor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got it, but they didn't like it. Gotcha.

Also, I don't think, like, a Beth from Iowa would maybe like, would be like, what's that? Different cities liked it. So there are cities that liked it. San Fran, Brooklyn, Chicago, and London liked it. Yeah, because they're all like, they're all, like, they're all, familiar with conceptual performance art. Yeah. Don't mind this.

Shouldn't have done conceptual performance art on drag race. Well, what's, unless you're Jimbo? Jimbo or who's the girl that gave her, who jumped in the toaster bath? Willow pill. Will O'Pill. Which a lot of people thought that I was trying to like

piggyback off of her, which. How? Water? Just different. Uh-huh. Just being different. You know, when there's so many girls who are doing the same thing, just not doing that puts you in a category.

Question though. Where the fuck did they get all these props from? I know they didn't bring it from home. They give you a $500. budget of stuff that you can order for the show. I mean, our All-Stars talent show, they're building set pieces and equipment. Look at Faramund.

She had a whole Crystal Conner's goddess setup. I think she paid for that. Okay. Did you see the talent show with Bosco? On my season of All-Stars? Did I? She has a... It touched me.

Yeah, this fly is coming to get us. People on the 4-05 that want to know where we're talking about. We've got a fly in the studio, and it's just really terrorizing us. It's really kind of throwing a wrench in the chemistry that's, if you notice, but we're a little bit awkward here. I'm having a really hard time with this, actually. We're really, it's really going downhill. They built her a full platform that spins so that she could get on a chair, get into the splits on the chair, and be spinning around.

Yeah, I don't, I don't think that's fair. What's what she asked for? Okay, well, I could ask for a spinning platform. What if I asked for a pink corvette that shoots me into the moon. Maybe they would have built you. You know what I mean? I don't know. Have you seen De DeVantisa show in Vegas?

I have seen, I've not in Vegas, but I've seen it here in L.A. When she drives the car onto the stage and the car is rhinestoneed? I have seen that. She is truly spectacular. What do you think about her? Wish I could be her. Yeah. And, you know, she is human.

And it's not Cirque du Soleil, but like, it's, it's kind of, it's perfect. It's perfect. It's the best show I've ever seen. Right. I mean, it's sensational. Like, when, oh, my God, this fucking fly. People on the 101, we got to fly in the studio. All these local LA references, I feel like a local.

We can't, we can't neglect to keep in. mind that people are not always watching. We've got to describe what's amazing. You look incredible. I'm sorry that you can't see me. Yeah. She looks incredible. She's doing mixed metallic. She's doing stone fish nets. I have nails on. A.B. She's got nails on. She doesn't even need body makeup

because her skin is so perfect. Oh my God. Guess how old I am? 38. 28. 21. 22? How old are you really? I'm 32. 32. You like being 32? How do you feel?

What age do you feel? I feel 25. How old do you feel? Body-wise, very much older than I actually am and like emotionally, way younger than I should feel. I know why that is. You know what I mean?

Like, I feel, I don't even get into it. It sounds so, so gross. When I wake up, I waddle and I like groan and I croak and I creak and it's fucking rotten. Is your asshole still in? My asshole is, I have the asshole of a third grader mama. Perfect.

Okay. She's like... That's the thing. That's the one thing about aging that I'm scared of. What, getting your fucking blown out cow pussy dragging on the floor, like the diapers on? Having a tail that looks like the aliens

in her mouth. Well, I have a lovely little suggestion for you. Don't get fucking double-fisted at Folsom every other fucking day. I haven't bottomed in years. But then why do you feel like your pussy's gonna fall out? It just happens, doesn't it? It just happens. Old people's assholes just fall out.

You gotta screw it back in. If you're not getting your fucking, if you're not getting the Ottoman from fucking CB2 shoved up there. You don't have to worry about it. Well, I actually have some questions for you. Hold on. These drapes go with this program.

No, that I, listen, I got friends who are anal explorers of the most Olympic. Spelunkers. I mean, they wrote the book on it, and they got to worry about diapers before they turn 50. But that's another story for another time. I'm happy that you're I don't get on, really. It's gross. Get out of there.

It's not, I mean, it can be very gross. It's like you poop out of there, mama. That's not what makes it gross. Oh. It's your inside me. I don't want you in there. Oh, wow. That's my private business.

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Um, so, so... If we talk about it anymore, I'm gonna have to buy... Spinning chairs, a whole prop set up. Um, when I was on there, you just had to go out there and do something. Now, I was... No, y'all were riding tricycles compared to what is required now. No, you, Mama, there were no tricycles. It was crazy.

Y'all were like... You did not have any props. No or Waka Waka. They were no props. There was a microphone if you wanted it. Yeah. And that was it. There was nothing else.

There was just that rudimentary. Just that fucking greased up steel stage. Hot! Do you, do you, would you could, would you, sorry, sorry. Would you agree with me when I say that that main stage is greased up solid steel slippery? I think everyone who saw the finale of my All-Star season will know that I definitely feel like it is greased the fuck up. a Marley floor. Can we get a... Where's Miss Marley? Can they sweep it in between episodes?

That wouldn't help when you have greased up steel with steel brackets between each steel square. I did a lip sync on episode two and glass bugle beads got everywhere and got shattered and Bosco was bleeding profusely because she got naked. And when we came to rehearse the next day for the next episode, the glass bugle beads were still everywhere. Love it. I was like, that's the attention to detail that you really count on for World and Wonder. Yeah. I, I, I, I, I, I, the way that I hate that fucking main stage is, you cannot. It's beautiful. I guess.

Especially the new one with the video projection screens. Well, that's not on the, that's not on the floor. No, the floor, but who's looking at the floor? Everybody, because they're looking at your feet while you're walking. Sniffing your toes, girl. Like, they're looking at you and the way that you are, the way that you're walking is directly informed by the, the, the, the service of the floor that you are walking on. It's a slippery floor.

And let me tell you one thing about me, Katia, I'm going to fall. I'm a falling bitch. and so I struggle every single time I every time I step out on that stage I almost fall it's crazy what was the first what was the what was the first past of the first time you ever walked the main stage what was it like do you remember it

hideous what did you remember thinking why didn't I get to rehearse this thank you people they're on the 110 right now we're both thinking the same thing why didn't I get to rehearse this why don't they give us in my in my head I was like so I know that they're trying to like

I know that all of this withholding of information is of a purpose. It's the game. It's the game. Right. The shock, the awe, the nerves. This is all trying to be manufactured, ratcheted up for the greatest degree of entertainment possible. However, it feels a little cruel. I still think it's cruel. I also think it kind of doesn't make that much sense. I get it in the sense of...

Do you want everybody to slip? Well, that's the thing. What the fuck is wrong with you? I get it in the sense of we're making a TV show and we don't have time for anything but what needs to be on camera. Oh, give me a fucking break. They got plenty of time. But I also would have loved to have even seen it before stepping out in my very first runway look

in eight-inch platform heels. Especially when it's like, because having seen the show does nothing to prepare you for what the reality of the show actually is. Of course. Because that stage, I can't stress this enough. I'm like, it's basically the water country over there.

It's made out of banana peels. It's made out of banana peels. It is, they grease it down with that olive oil hair spray between each contestant. Do you think it's like part of, it's like American Ninja Warrior where they're like,

you have to survive this test. That would be interesting and I would be on board for that because then you're like ready. You know what I mean? You're like your thighs are gripped and you're like, you're like, but instead you like

you try to be pussy and you're like, it's impossible. And then you're like, oh my God. And then you start panicking halfway down. And they're so close to you, the judges. Oh, you feel that way? Oh my God. I was like they were up my ass.

I was like, where are they? Oh, I felt like they were, I felt as soon as it got on there was like, COVID, they changed it. They might have. They might have been closer back in the day. I know the set on, the set on the UK version was a little bit different. Were you on UK? I was there for a day doing something and I just got to peek at it and it was like a little bit different. But the one way back when, I thought it was tiny compared to what I imagined.

Well, when I watched the old seasons and I look at the judges panel, they are this close to each other on that panel. Now they're all stretched apart, you know what I mean? They're seated far. And there's only four of them. They used to be, like, closer than we are now. Well, when I was, yeah, I mean, they were like this, this, this, this is like. Up in each other's pussies. Yeah, because they could do this.

They would just do, you like that. Or they hold the fan in front of the face. Yes. Oh, I forgot about that one. Yeah. But anyways, we were right there. And then I have, Tracey reminded me that you do two passes. Not always.

Really? Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. On All-Stars, we mostly did one. Really? Mm-hmm. I wonder if that's true. And it would be without music.

So most of our runways were without music. Okay, I'm not sure if you did this, and I'm sorry if you did, but I would like to suggest all contestants in the future, just walk the runway. Just walk it. Instead of skipping. Let's not do Charlie Chaplin.

No, walk-a-walk-on the runway? Let's not do like, let's not do like arm animals, or let's not do like, did you do that? Were you like a, were you like a? Was that you? I came out in an outfit dressed as an angel. Okay, did you do this? Well, my real arms were in the wings.

Okay. And I had fake arms. So I was, in fact, flapping my wings. That's a little bit different. Is it? Okay. I'm talking, like, a person who's, like, dressed as, like, a fierce woman. Right. And they were just, like, doing bits up there.

You don't like a bit? I hate them. Oh, you're very... I hate the bits. I'm very traditional. What do we have in common? Nothing. You're an old-school queen.

Yeah. If you're not wearing nails, you're not in uniform. No, I don't give shit about nails. I just give a shit about what you're doing with the hands that nail's supposed to be on.

I mean, I can't get it. I just, you know what I would be? I would be the guest serge with a Glock. And if they pointed to where they're going to walk,

I'm shooting that finger off. Period. Slay. Point again. Yeah. I would have a BB gun. I call my boyfriend BB gun Kelly.

Because. He's short and covered in tattoos. It's like a small machine gun Kelly. He's BB gun Kelly. That's funny. Oh my God. So, yeah. So you're like a, you're a mugger, you're like a bit doer.

You're like a, you're like a, you're like a, no, I'm a big uncomfortable man. Okay, you don't ever watch. I just miss the days of just being Miss Pussy. When they were in mall clothes? Not necessarily. I mean, I'm thinking about like Miami Smalls. Sure.

I'm thinking about Violet. So give me an example of someone you hate. Say their name. Um, it's, um, it's like, oh gosh, it's, uh, who does it's like, uh, every season. It's like, um, I, I feel like it's like maybe. that's just more that that hokey pageant thing like the like like Chanel that's like a hokey pageant thing

that's way before drag race that's the whole like that's modeling your gown yes exactly that's like evening gown competition you're scored exactly like you're doing this you're doing that I'm thinking who does it it's like maybe Thorgy not really thorgy

but like fuck I wish I had a good example I'm sorry I don't it's fine I just wanted you to talk shit about someone on the pod I know I'm trying to think Tina burner maybe Tina burner maybe it's not Tina burner Who the fuck does it

Do you not know what I'm talking about? No one in this room But me watches the show It's like I think like You don't know what I'm talking about I'm talking about this Yes I'm going to talk about

Yeah demonstrate Yeah she's Oh God she looks a fucking mess dude Oh you're talking about Utica Yes Yes Thank you God All right

Yeah yeah yeah yeah Oh my God Now let me be very clear. Weird, weird, I am weird. Boop, boop boop. I get it. It's like the OG TikTok dance. Shut it the fuck down.

Like TikTok just starts and they're doing all those like the couples are doing there in the mirror. They're doing their. I'm a savage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now that being said, what particular would irk to me so much about Utica was that she would be wearing the most incredible things. She lost out on challenge wins because of her runway presentation. I mean, that first costume construction episode, best thing ever produced on drag race, period, point blank. Well, now she's on Project Runway.

I know. And as well, she should be. That level, I was like, damn, that was such a disproportionate. I don't know. I think, you know, there's been looks. Like, there's this one, like, jumpsuit with, like, the 60s ball. I think it's like a Hello Kitty jumpsuit with, like, a 60s blonde. Oh, my God, the one.

And then with the, with the pearls? I completely Oh, another sleeping bagbook. Well, no, the second, I mean, besides that one, which obviously is the best one, I can't believe I forgot about that. I'm just so humble. Can you imagine?

Can you imagine? Not only was I, like, mugging and doing bits, I had completely lost my mind. Obviously. Lost. Like, gone. Yeah, it was crazy. The implication you had it.

Like, why is she computing? Like, she's like, is she from the film? Future or the past. She's computing like the luggage, how much the luggage is going to cost on the way home because she's going right to the airport. She's putting in the GPS to L-A-X. Yeah. Oh, my God. Do you ever feel like some girls are like, I'm ready to go?

I'm going to bomb this because I'm done. Yeah. That was 100% me. I wanted, I needed to go home. Yeah, it was over. And I was, I'm not saying that to like, as a like I, like as an excuse, or what do you call that? Like, when you really tried, but you want to pretend like you didn't because you lost. Sure.

Like I knew. Saving face. Exactly. There was no face to be saved. was like, get me the fuck out of here, because I was actually, like, very, very unwell. So the, anyway, so Yudica, like that, I hated that so much because, God, it's just like, let the outfit, let the office speak. Because it's like, we just want to hear her talk.

You shut the fuck up up. Well, because I think the thing that you're picking up on is the fact that they don't have the confidence to let the outfit speak and watching someone be not confident is uncomfortable. Bam, 100%. That's, and also it's like, there's. the further, there's the dissonance because it's like, well, why the lack of confidence?

Because the talent is so clearly there. It's like smashness in the face. And insecure person and insecure people make me uncomfortable. There you go. And also, but here, another thing that is probably not very well considered is that modeling is not easy. It's way harder.

It looks easy. You walk, you're on your fucking institution. Like when I'm doing it, I'm like, this is so, like, it doesn't take any work. Like, I'm so good at this. And then I watch someone else do it. And I'm like, oh, it really is a skill that I have. that I was born with and that I'm like, I just... Yeah, it's like an innate thing that I'm just born to do

and other people aren't. Like, it's just, they don't have it in the way that I have it. And you, I mean, and you're so humble. You always forget that when you walk in a room, everybody just quits. Right. You know, because you're like, well, why is everybody leaving? Because I walked in the room and they don't have a chance. I'm so used to at this point that I don't...

Do I even register to me as something that's happening? No, no, no, just because I'm so good. Right. Yeah. No, you know, you're on your fucking... Your fat ass is on the phone watching Naomi Campbell on Instagram. And you're like, how hard could that be? Oh, walking? Very difficult. Mary, when every time me and fucking Trixie do a fucking photo shoot, I swear to God, it's the first time I've ever been in front of a camera.

Right. She goes in there, bam, bam, bam. And I'm like, have you seen the model, the Chinese model who does a new pose every second? Yeah, that's me at a photo shoot, bitch. I'm like, let's get me out of this outfit. I love that shit. Yeah. I don't know how to do it because I have that kind of face where it's like 35 degrees to the left.

It's beautiful. 37 degrees to the. the left it's disgusting like it's hard it's like she's got a mask on right she's got a mask on all she has to do is make sure her eyes are open which is difficult with a lash that size like she just there's no expression she's got a kabuki mask on i i have like a you know something else so uh okay so eliminated first ultimate humiliation almost killed yourself then um i will say i never considered uh uh uh sue of sides uneliving myself uneliving myself do you know No, this is not, I'm not talking, I'm not exaggerating.

I did. I watched the, I watched the pot about episode two, which is crazy to already be on the ledge on episode two. The ledge was only four feet, four floors. They saw the psyche valent said, second floor. Fourth, I was on floor four. I wouldn't even have broken an ankle. Yeah. No, I would not even have broken an ankle.

Sometimes doing bad on drag race is a blessing because you get to show what you are good out, which is for you, lip syncing to an Olivia Newton-John song. Well, you know, what's funny is that I just. recently found out she had during the year that I was born physical was number one that is crazy what year was that 1982 in May um and then what else I love rock and roll was the number one song on the day I was born huh yeah I'm Joan Jet I don't even know what mine was because it's control group tell your date of birth 93 July 93 July what 6th 7 6th 93 oh the stalker A walker song, yeah.

Every shit you take. Every orgasm you fake. I'll be watching you. Every ass you blow. That's where I will go. I'll be watching. Wow, there's a theme. There's a theme.

Freaky. Is that always on my mind? Oh, that was in practical magic. That's a creepy song. What is your favorite movie? Alien. What's your second favorite movie? Alien.

I was a little. I was like, I wanted to, like, I wanted to confide with you earlier, but of course I was late that I wanted to have a questionnaire where you just go down. Every single thing is the most obvious alien movie. Alien resurrection. It actually is alien, though. I love that movie. Independence Day. No, what is your favorite alien movie?

Let's go down. Alien. The first. The first one is amazing. The second one is good. The rest up to Romulus art. They're not trash. No.

They're a hard one. watch sometimes, though. Well, I mean, I don't want to tell you, Miss, you know, Miss Alien, but like, the cool thing is that in the first mind, you don't really even see her until like 45 minutes into the film. It's scary. It's scary. There's just this thing, an entity. Well, it's a horror movie, right? Yeah. It's, and it's body horror and there's, uh, uh, sexual non-consent elements to it that are, that are horrifying, right? Like, you've been impregnated, impregnated against your will. And that is terrifying to me. And then the second one is a little campier and then the third one is a fucking hot ass mass yeah and then

the first one is kind of a masterpiece a masterpiece a masterpiece and it's like one of those things that's that less is more like don't show don't like draw it out but don't make it boring it's like because you really don't get a good payoff until like an hour in or something right and the tension keeps ratcheting up because people are disappearing yeah it's it's a it's a perfect movie it's great i also like 2001 a space odyssey okay that's now that is a slow burn for these 10 TikTokers at home, they're never going to, they wouldn't last a minute. They could if they had subway surfer playing beneath it. Subway what?

Subway surfer. What is that? It's like there's TikToks where they show a clip, but half of the screen is the clip and half of the screen is someone playing this game on an app. So that there's something to watch when the clip gets slow. That's like fucking Twitch. Totally. Okay. I'm going to go down a list of movies to tell me if you like it or not.

Mars attacks. It's a good movie. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. In terms of Tim Burton's Uvra, what do you think his best movie is? I really like his Claymation movies

Shockingly Was that Frankenweening? No. Might be. No, no, that's not him but he did corpse bride and Nightmare before Christmas. Oh, oh, those ones.

Okay, okay, okay. And honestly, I watched Nightmare Before Christmas last year. It's bad movie. Oh, bad. Bad movie. Talk about it. Talk about it.

Beautiful visuals. Talk about it. Story, so slow. Pacing, abysmal. Really? Really. Okay, I'm going to go rewatch it because you're going to sit there and be like,

like, why is this a classic? Oh, wow. Bad movie. Well, he really he dropped off and flopped off hard. Yeah, the Alice in Wonderlands are Garbaggio. I recently watched Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Love. Sure.

That's a great, great, great. And it's like, you know, it's like an Odyssey movie. My friend keeps trying to get me to watch his documentary. Peewee. Yeah, I watched that. Is it amazing? It's pretty good. I wouldn't say it's amazing, but it's pretty good. And the, but man, oh man, what really fucking biffed so hard. Oh, Beetle Juice, too. Oh, Beetlejuice one is bad.

I'm going to fight you to the death. No, no, no. Have you watched it recently? I have. I'm going to fight you to the death on it. Where is Beetlejuice? He takes forever to get there. I think you got something wrong with your brain, Mary.

Because that is the one here who has something wrong. Turn the wig around, Tina. Turn it around. Actually, it kind of looks good about that. It's very Brooklyn, very Bushwick. Oh, is it? I just need like three. You make a macho.

Latte fiercely. But like it takes me 15 minutes to do it. Now it's Venice Beach. Yeah. Venice bitch. Venice bitch. What do you think about Lana Del Rey? Like her old stuff.

We just high-fived everybody on the two. We're bros. Okay. Wait, hold on. Let me just... Her first two albums? Okay, let's... Okay, we're going to steer...

Let's fuck Tim Burton. Let's talk about Lana. I like how sad she was. Well, wait, back to Tim Burton. Sorry. B-O-Jus really made me angry. Angry girl? angry because the only

the only like clever thing about it I thought was in was making Delia a performance artist I thought that that was very clever I haven't seen it so okay well it's growing if they did that that does seem clever so um Lana Lana we're almost at a time but we're gonna we're gonna go over because I was late

um the Lana tell me favorite album when do what is your appreciation of Lana when did it start has it waned what's the what's the timeline of your Lana uh right after I started having sex which was bottoming in college. Sad because it was always terrible.

Singing about men who aren't respectful and have unrequited love, born to die. Born to die. So first album is the one. First album. When it came out, I was on Tumblr, so I was on the cutting edge. Okay. Literally. Yeah. You chopping it up.

Chopin it up. Oh my God. Remembering on the two, we're talking about self-harm. Okay. The chopping. You chopping it up. Have you not seen that? I've seen it. Okay. It's hysterical.

There's this famous clip of Lon and greeting fans after a show and one girl clearly has self-harm scars on her on her arms. She's like, what are you chopping it up? And the fan goes, no, ma'am. Which is funny. My tattoos cover a ton of chopping marks. Oh, how dark. Oh, come on. Like I said, 13 drinking blood.

My boyfriend has a couple. And the first time I saw him, I went, will you stop for me? wait are they on the inner thigh oh that that is for me like this is like so that is to me is like a bridge too far oh well because it's okay if you can see them no no no because that's a cry for help ouchy I think there's less sensation there and then you can hide it is a hundred percent not true no oh my god are you kidding me little thighs your forearms you could literally take it I have tattoos on my forearms this hurt like a bitch no no no four I'm talking the top here oh sure you could hack off my forearm and I wouldn't feel anything you want to take a little needle to my inner thigh I'm going to slap you it's not the it's not the it's like the top of the fine. Most people I know do this because it's less visible. They're thinking ahead. Yeah. I wasn't thinking ahead.

I was just like, you were like, please, I'm fucking moving therapy. Yeah. Okay. So, when did it drop off for you with Lana? After Paradise, the next album that came out, I was like, whatever. Ultraviolence. I like songs on it. Okay.

Especially West Coast. West Coast. Beautiful song. The way it changes. Fabulous song. Yeah. I think, I think. that I wish she still, I don't think she would anymore,

but what a missed opportunity for her to do an album of covers? Oh my God. Oh, God, because her voice is so much of time that sublime cover, I think is, it is one of the best songs ever recorded. She has such a deep voice that she could really do any of these, like, really like late 80s, early 90s, moaning guys. Or classic rock. All classic rock covers.

What's the Morrissey band, The Smith? The Smith, would love to hear her sing some songs. Fucking Tom Petty, Eric Clapton. Imagine if she did tears in heaven. Oh, what about a Led Zeppelin song? Absolutely. Yeah. Or even, um, fucking, um, Leonard Skinner, that smell.

Can't you smell that smell? The smell of death surrounds you? I mean, if she, there's shit in your mouth. No, but I'm serious. I'm totally serious. I'm dead serious. If she did, like, the doors. Are you kidding me?

Oh, totally. Oh, and she already is Van Morrison and woman form. When they're, I mean, like that would, like, like, she would just like, bust open the door to a whole new. I'm listening, so hopefully she takes this. Of course she, oh, yeah, no, she's listening. I know she's listening to 70s classic rock. Yeah, down.

She's got the alligator boyfriend or whatever. Oh, my God. What a freakazoid. No, but I'm, she would, oh my God. Would you ever marry a not famous person? I mean, it's the only kind of person I would ever marry. Oh, you'd never fuck a famous person? No, I would fuck a famous person.

Sure. But I would never marry one. You don't have been in a relationship with someone who understands what you're going through? No. Oh, really? No. I would never marry an actor. You have to be the star.

No, no, no. I have to be the one on camera. Yeah. You cannot have two people who are both in front of the camera. You're talking about it? That's like how most Hollywood relationships are. And that's how most Hollywood relationships.

Sure. I would say like you can marry a grip, a producer, a best boy. Yeah. Best, that turns into a best man. You know. It's the title of the person. Yeah.

No, but like I mean, just think about it. Like two stars. Powerhouse. No. Oh, man. Especially gay, two of the same gender? Fuck off. I mean, like Lydia and Corey Kane. Who the fuck is that? Are you, they're sister dicking? They're in a very public relationship and they vlog together in drag.

See, there you go. Tick-Tock, Clary's, TikTok. And they're, they're greater than the sum of their parts. You know what I mean? Kind of like you and Trixie? Where it's like, you've created something that is greater than some of your parts. You know what that means? Let's get back to Lana. Okay. Okay, whatever.

I came on this podcast to talk about me. Grab your cards about questions. You know what, let's do it. We're going to do a rapid fire. We're going to do rapid fire. Okay. If not alien, what profession would Irene be? The cashier, the proctologist.

Who's going to say proctologist? The proctologist. That does not exist, by the way. I'd be digging up in your ass. There's a fake profession. Really? Yes. When have you?

Or what's the OBGYN? That's a, what's the OBGYN? That's a gynaecologist. Yeah, gynaecologist. I'll be a gynaecologist. What were your initial thoughts of the tournament twist? on All-Stars. Loved it.

That means I didn't have to worry about getting eliminated and not being on episodes again because I already did that and I didn't need to do that again. There you go. Do you think we should bring back mall drag? Like season two, J-Jubi drag. Yeah, there's a drag queen who is bringing back Maldrag, and she has a show called Mald and I want to shout her out. Her name is Miss Mamm-she.

You would love her. Miss Mamm-She. She. Miss Mams-She. She's in Brooklyn, New York. She has a show called Mall drag that she tours with. So if it comes to your city, go see it. You will be wowed with her camisoles and slacks and jumps.

Fabulous. A little, like this hair. We need a, we do need a reset because this is like... It's too much. I mean, I was talking about somebody about going back on some kind of All-Stars thing and I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? I would get that list and I would just kill myself. I mean, I don't...

Well, that one's going to the Katia show to see what you wear. I mean, that's like, I know that's a joke, but it's also kind of like... It's not a joke. No, I know, but like you have to like sparkle, Neely Sparkle. Like, you got to make an effort because you have to. Like, there's a big response. Whether you, like, take yourself seriously or not, if you're going to go on the show, you have to, like, bring it. And I wouldn't even, I couldn't bring one thing.

Do you know what I mean? Like, I just, you have nice drag. No, I don't. But it's two, it's, I have one pair of nice shoes that took me three weeks to Rhinestone. That's all I have. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's not, it's not, it's not the vibe. What made you do the move from Texas to Seattle?

Texas sucks ass. Really? Yeah. All cities? What about Dallas? It's the worst one? Oh, no. I went to college?

Dallas, Texas, baby, two and three. I went to call a legend Dallas. It's 214. 2.14. Oh, you're right. 2.14. Witness. Home of Verica Badu.

All right. When did you find out you could juggle and can you please do it now? We don't have time. How does it feel to be the first queen in drag race, her street to quote Sun Su on the show? Did you go the art of war on the show? Uh-huh. Fierce. Yeah.

What does you say? When your opponent is at their weakest, that's when you strike. Oh, my God. It's so fierce. Yes. I may touch you the five-point palm exploding heart technique. Okay. Bosco tweeted that lip-syncing to pocketbook featuring ludicrous by Jennifer Hudson was a humiliation ritual. Does that also resonate with you? No, because I'm from Houston. Okay. Houston, I don't love her. She's too big. It's car dependent. It's just...

Nothing like L.A. Okay, that's fair. I just clucked you fiercely, sister. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. Everybody on the 402, we're fighting. Do you still put people's phones in your mouth when you perform? I don't think I ever Oh yeah No I do yeah Like a how do you Like like Like are we talking Nokia

Like 2001 Nokia's Or like If someone's recording me And they're like Up in my I'm like Jesus Christ Well you know

Who put fucking people's feet In her mouth Nina West Yeah I didn't say it What's your Taco Bell order Number seven Césidia with a taco

And a drink Okay Do you like cheese? Do I like cheese? Oh baby You better believe My shits are slow What?

What does that mean? When you eat cheese, it slows your shit. Okay, that's why I blast. Got a blast. What gives you, in this day and age, in these troubling times, what gives you full body chills? Full body chills? Seeing, oh, God, I have a sincere answer. Is that okay?

No, we'll move on. What's something that makes you say, work at huntie, diva boots? Aja performing. Okay, okay, fierce. You lost lip sinks to trans. women, what does it feel like to be the ultimate ally? It's just, it's what I have, it's my responsibility as a cisgendered

male presenting, he-him pronoun having person in this day and age. As a shit-sucking, boot-licking piece of trash. Cross-de-car. Crossie. Yeah. Yes. Okay, that's it. Actually, let's go about, I would like to hear your sincerence, right? I think everybody else would. What is something that gives you full body chills? It's just seeing

how this administration's policies are affecting the mental health of the trans people in my life. For the better. Right. How they're, I mean, their help.

It's, when the government finally helps people, it's really inspiring. Totally. No, isn't it? It's horrible.

So I, you're thinking chills like, ooh, that's horrible. It's freaking me out. I was thinking chills like, oh, good. Oh,

what gives me good, full body chills? But we can do both. A twink with a fat ass. Okay. Okay. Another rapid fire, quick, quick,

quick, quick, rapid fire. What is, what is the sound that you love? Uh. What is the sound that you hate? Styrofoam. Oh.

Ugh. What is your favorite curse word? Cunt. Cunt. If heaven exists... It doesn't. No, shut up. If heaven exists, when you die,

what would you like God to say to you as you arrive at the pearly gates? You did your best. Okay. All right. Irene, the motherfucking alien, everybody. Give it up for Irene. Ney Dubois. the alien. Thank you for having. We got you.

This was such a fun time. Thanks for being here. And once again, I'm sorry that I'm late, but you see how tan I am. I couldn't help it. It was worth it, honestly. Thank you. Yeah, we had to take the time to install the hair. I mean, that's your natural hair going out of your head. It's really, it's somebody's natural hair. Should we finish the pod by scalping ourselves? Oh, sure. Ready?

One, two, three. Thank you. Thank you.