The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - Kelly Mantle Demands More Glamour and Less Clamor with Trixie

Episode Date: June 2, 2026

Like a velvet-cloaked goth privateer, Kelly Mantle strode into the podcast studio this week and set her microphone ablaze as if forged by fire in a glamorous volcano. With every story, Kelly summoned tempests of danger, glittering betrayal, and show-business Madonna-tinged treasure until the walls trembled like the hull of a ship under cannon fire. Somewhere amidst the madness, the strange legend of Denise Richards lurks in from the shadows and ascends into celebrity myth. This episode left the studio aglow with the glory of pirates, prophets, and a perfectly glazed ceremonial ham. Check out The Kelly Mantle Show at: https://bit.ly/TheKellyMantleShow Follow Kelly: @KellyMantle TRIXIE AND KATYA COLORING THROUGH HISTORY is out now! The perfect coloring book for people with excellent taste and a loose grasp of history. Get your copy now: prh.com/tandkcoloringthroughistory This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Sign up and get 10% off at: ⁠https://BetterHelp.com/BALD⁠ This Summer, quit nicotine and stay quit! Text JOINKATYA to 88709 and sign up for EX Program today! If you're interested in GLP-1s, see if you qualify at: https://Ro.co/BALD Get a free can of OLIPOP! Buy any 2 cans of Olipop in store, and we'll pay you back for one! Works on single cans of any flavor, any retailer. Head to: https://drinkolipop.com/BALD Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you use promo code BALD at checkout! Head to: https://joindeleteme.com/BALD Millions of people rely on Planned Parenthood health centers for services like cancer screenings, wellness exams, birth control, STI tests and more. Patients shouldn’t suffer because of their laws. Our communities deserve better. To get involved, text UPDATE to 22422 Follow Trixie: @TrixieMattel Follow Katya: @Katya_Zamo To watch the podcast on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/TrixieKatyaYT⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out our official YouTube Clips Channel: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/TrixieAndKatyaClipYT⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you want to support the show, and get all the episodes ad-free go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://thebaldandthebeautiful.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out future Live Podcast Shows, go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://trixieandkatya.com/#tour⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out the Trixie Motel in Palm Springs, CA: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.trixiemotel.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Listen and Watch Anywhere! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Trixie: Official Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.trixiemattel.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@trixie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter (X): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   Follow Katya: Official Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.welovekatya.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/welovekatya⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter (X): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   #TrixieMattel #KatyaZamo #BaldBeautiful Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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So Kelly, what if I gave you an opportunity to introduce yourself the way you do on your own show? Hello, I'm Trixie Mattel. Hello, I'm Trixie Mattel. Hello, I'm Trixie Mattel. And this is the bald and beautiful And my name is Kachia How's that? Have you been drinking?

No, I haven't been drinking My Uber driver was drunk though What do you mean? How can you? Do you breathalize him? Yes. Oh, you know what? No, I could smell it on his breath.

I know Kelly's in the backseeing. For once, I wasn't a drunk one. How can you tell? Huh? How drunk, like, visibly drunk? I was so drunk. I was talking to him And he was slurbing all of his words.

He was taking wrong turns. He was swerving all over the road. I mean, I live for this. I have the worst... Well, you almost died for it, honey. Yeah, when it comes to Uber's. But I don't look at it as bad luck because I kind of live for the fact that

all of my Uber drivers are bat shit crazy. Or they're really horny for the girls. Oh, that's true. The drivers... Especially at nighttime, honey. I think when you... A doll during the day. Yeah.

You know. When you get your Uber license, whatever you have to do to be an Uber, I think there's a seminar. Like a worship the doll's seminar. They make you like be a part of. Right. Because there's something about the taxi girls,

the SUV driving girls, the Uber girls. They love to look in that rear view. Yeah, and I felt real good when I got in one night to an Uber, and I was leaving precinct. And I was like, I thought he was flirting with me. And then he tells me he's blind. And I was like, I'm offended. And then he's driving. It hit me.

How are you driving? My Uber driver was blind. Listen, a compliment's a compliment. Honey, I'll take it. You're a woman of an advanced age. Hey, no, I'm not. Okay. I am a little goth girl today just for you.

Kelly walked in. I said, hello, little goth girl. I am just your little girl for the day. You know, actually, I think this is kind of an homage. Katie would wear, she loves a little prairie dress. This is kind of Wednesday tea. Well, I want to, you know, it's in honor of Katia. We love Katia.

We're sending all of our well wishes. What surgery did she? Is she getting the penis enlargement or is she getting it taken off? I, she hasn't told everybody what she's, getting. Oh, okay. And I don't want to blow up her spot, but it is full body lipos. Shut up. And yeah.

EpiFS. Would you ever go get the full yank? Like the full like face lift all of them. Oh honey, I am a long overdue. Can we talk? You think you would really get it like that. Don't zoom in too close, but I am long overdue for a ball. Kelly, I actually think you look great. Thank you. Your skin looks incredible. Are you doing something

different? Well, I use bleach. No, you do. And sandpaper from home. You drink. Depot. You drink bleach. Do you think semen smells like egg whites and bleach? No.

The particular semen that I partake in happens to smell like monster. Monster energy drink. I'll let you put two and two together. He was in the Marine Corps. Shout out to James.

Shout out to James. You guys, I just want you to know, if you're ever having a tough day and you feel like the human race is plotting against you, just know that someone out there is married to and lives with Kelly. Oh my God. What are you like

as a wife as a roommate? Honey, you know, I am so chill. You are? I am so chill. I'm not chill when I'm in front of a camera. I'm a ball of nerves. Yeah. But when I'm just lounging at home, you know, I'm giving my Gwen Stefani, honey. I got my hair up in the, well, minus the religious app

and the prayer app and all that other bullshit. But I'm talking the look. I got my hair up a little high pony, honey. She's wearing a little jean cut off Daisy Dukes and a little white beater, you know. getting around the house and just chilling. You just described like somebody going as white trash for Halloween. Well, that's pretty much my life. I have to say, I mean, we are a very white trash couple.

That's true. But very liberal. I love James. In another timeline, James was like at January 6th. Oh, honey. Do you know what I mean? Completely. The sunglasses.

Yeah, the wrapar on sunglasses. Try and take them. These colors don't run. Yes, axe body spray. Axe body. All three and one. one body shampoo all of that. Oh, honey. Does he still do that? Even he does. If even he goes ahead and washes it. You know what? I go through phases where I feel like the joke is that straight

guys love that. But when I'm on tour, I'm bald, I do like a multi-use item. I'll use a three-and-one. Is that horrible? I think we have to bring back the integrity of the three-and-one. What do you have got no hair? What are you using on there for? Do you do you wash your hair? I mean, do you wash your My partner has shampoo, so I use it. I think it's more like Phantom Limb Syndrome. I'm just like... Oh my gosh.

Do you sit in the shower and you kind of rub your fingers? Well, if you lost all your teeth, you would still brush your gums. Would you? Let's take a break. I don't know. I'm not a dentist. You know, I should ask, well, my parents have both crossed over, but they both had dentures.

I wonder if they brushed their gums. They had dentures. They did. You saw them with the dentures out? Oh, yeah. They used to take them to get them cleaned. and then my mom would lose hers all the time and one time she sat on them

and she's like, oh, there they are, bit me in the house. I think sometimes people get too comfortable and they, like, put them in their pocket. Yeah, she had to put hers in her house coat all the time. Yeah, when I had Invisaline, I'd, like, put it in my jeans pocket or something and then later be like, I can't find it.

I'm like, you do need to put it somewhere. Exactly. You can't just throw it raw dog in the pocket. Have you always had these perfect teeth? Born with them? These are your stunning perfect teeth. These were, they were. this size when I came out of my mama's

Gucci. You were a toothy child. I was a very toothy child. I still am. You chewed your way out. Honey. Did you bite your own abillical cord? Honey, I bit my umbilical cord and I threw it in the trash can. Okay, I have a question. You're like a serious actress, obviously, and I remember when you started

I thought you were going to talk about that play. What is that play? About the nun that got pregnant and she had the baby and cut the abysical cord and put it in the trash can. I can't remember the name of it. Greece? Agnes of God. Oh. And it's also a movie. I'm not seeing that. Anyway. Why would I have talked about that? I have a question because when you started doing the Kelly Mantle show, which has gotten all this breakaway success now,

we are going to talk about that because I don't know how you've accidentally become the epicenter of drag drama on your channel. Girl, how? What is it about you that these girls come on there and say things, they act like there's no cameras. It's wild. They start telling you things about other drag queens. I see these clips on TikTok from your show where I'm like, the girls come on Kelly Mantle like it's like they're being given the firing squad tomorrow. Isn't it the truth? It's their tell all. And I am always caught off guard.

I have never like. Because you're not even fishing for it. I don't fish for it. I never expect it. I think of it as a comedy podcast. And so I try to keep things as light and comedy and surreal. And you know, it's so funny because I see all these things online all the time saying Kelly Mantle is the Barbara Walters of drag.

I do love Kelly Mantle as the Wendy Williams of drag. I'll take that. I think Wendy Williams is the Wendy Williams of drag. Well, that's true. She definitely is. But yeah, they get on there sometimes, honey, and they just start, I mean, we've had people cry. I think so many people have cried.

And I love it. What are you doing to these people? I live for it. I think it's an energy, you know? I think it's an energy. And I think that I love chaos and I love drama, but I don't ever. cause it. Does that make sense?

You're like, you attract it. Yes. But you're not like the instigator of it. Exactly. Because these girls come on there, I swear to God. You're like, so where were you born? And they're like, you know who I hate? I don't know what it is, Kelly. They like pivot to exposing one another.

I know. And I'm sitting there with my mouth wide open, honey. The other thing is you're not even privy to the drama. So like, something like the Ginger interview, you are getting all this truth bombs from her without really even fishing for it.

I have said this on the podcast, and I will say it again. The Ginger Minge interview. I have loved Ginger for years. I don't know her that well. We only worked together once for that telethon or whatever. That's really the only time I've ever interacted with her. From afar, been a fan, love her. She's incredibly nice.

Incredibly nice, wonderful. And she came on the pod, And she shared all these amazing stories about Dolly, about Kathy and Jimmy. Unbelievable stories. Well, unbelievable to some people. But I was sitting there going, oh, my gosh, this is amazing. I had no reason not to believe any of this stuff. And I'm like, these are great experiences you had.

You're also pretty gullible. Well. Ginger could have been like, so then I was the president for four years. And you would have been like, wow. No, I believe people. I'm not. This is the thing. Uh-huh.

And this is not just about whoever's not telling truth in drag. Right, right. I don't require drag queens to be truth tellers. Girl, hello. We're not the not Republic. No. We're not lawyers. The not Republic.

We're not doctors. No. We all have fake names. Tell me a story. We run around with suitcases with a bunch of different currency, with disguises. Let the girls lie. Entertain me. Entertain me.

Especially if you're on my podcast. And that's when RuPaul kissed me on the mouth. You know what I mean? Like, embellished the story. I love that. Who cares? Was it when you played him on Snatch game? I think that Rupal was not interested in kissing me when I did that.

No. I think I'm lucky I didn't get slapped. One time I worked with her on something, I forget what we were on. And Rupal, I'm supposed to be Rupal's assistant. I have like her juice and I'm her driver or something. I don't know. I'm in drag. She's, it was?

I think he was on drag race. And Rupal comes out and goes like, we're doing our little scene. And Rupal goes, can we add a slap? And I was like, wow. Something about me just inspired us. And she was looking at you. The actor's impulse. You know. Honey.

The actor's way. It was that snatch game. Yeah. It was that snatch game. She wanted to snatch you up, honey. I think it was before that. This was like season, it was like a long time ago. What is your, what was it like working with Michelle on Queen of the Universe?

Girl, it was fierce. And you know what's funny. I read that book, The Deva Rules, by Michelle Vessage, because I didn't really know Michelle. I wasn't really sure if she liked me. So I thought if I read her book, I would have some, like, You know, when you make a show like that, it's stop and start. I thought I would have something to talk about. Maybe she'd be flattered.

Or at least maybe I'd have a greater understanding of what she's about. That book turned me out. Really? I, it opened my eyes to the fact that drag race, in my experience, in my opinion, they kind of credit her as Rupal's friend. Which is true. But the book talks about her enmeshment in ball culture, her days in her girl group, her storied career, that Drag Race doesn't really touch on that much.

Isn't that wild? So, I don't know, like, seduction was the first interracial girl group with these, like, massive singles, massive tours. Oh, I mean, she thought she was Madonna. Yeah, I mean, like, Michelle's really cool career and story doesn't really get unfolded on Drag Race. The way Drag Race is always talking about Rupal's story. Right.

And so I only knew Michelle from Drag Race. So the book was really interesting because there's a lot of Michelle before Drag Race came Yeah, because I see, my first exposure to her, obviously, was the girl group, and then it was when she was Rue's sidekick on the talk show, and then they had a radio show together. Yeah, she had a radio show, the talk show. Yeah. And then Rupal writes a forward in the book, and RuPaul's memory of meeting Michelle was like being at a nightclub and seeing a woman in like a black lingerie nightie just walk across the floor. Girl. Just some young girl in a nightie. It was probably turning bedtime stories. It was her. And that was like her. first impression of Michelle.

And also the book has old pictures of Michelle. Michelle is the face card. Oh, honey. Is on fire. Still snatched. Snatched out of her mind. Well, I love that show. I wish they'd, why did it get canceled?

I thought the Queen of the Universe was so good. I don't know, actually. We only did the two seasons, but it was really fun. Oh, my God. I loved it. It was some of those queens, honey. Those whores could sing. The girl, the girl from France that did Levy on Rose.

Oh, my God. She was amazing. There's some fabulous singers on that show. I know. I never heard drag queen sing like that before I was like, oh my God. And I love your Kiki with them. Let's Have a Kiki with Luscious Honey and Vanessa. It's so good.

I think as we record this episode, maybe it came out a month ago or something, but I was working on a remix with Let's Have a Kiki. And so was Vanessa. And she shared hers with me and I was like, oh, yours gorgeous devours cute. Yours is really fierce. And then she was like, would you want to do some vocals for it? I was like, you know who we should get? Get Lushes his ass down here.

Because when I think of that like, spoken word in the beginning of the original. It's like, who would have a good answering machine voice? Terror! Who wouldn't want to come home to? Don't do it little girl. The kids say they don't know about answering machines. Did you ever, did the kids say they don't know about answering machines?

Oh my gosh. Did you ever have a real, honest to God, like tape answering machine? Honey, not only did I have a taped answering machine, I had one of those cheesy little outgoing messages. What did you say? That was like, hello? Hello? Gotcha.

This is my answering machine. So they would sit on the other end and go. That's classic, Kelly. Classic Kelly. And that's when you knew that comedy was for you. And then we had beepers. Shut the fuck up.

Okay, that's before me. My little marijuana dealer. Because this was before marijuana. Marijuana lives with legal. Carlyle was a Marlago. This was before Marlago was legal. I'm at home smoking Marlago. Oh my God, that would be a good strain for a ween.

Not that I support that or anything. But that is actually a good name for a weed. You know, I think I think they do They do wear a lot of hair and makeup in Mar-a-Lago I think you could infiltrate that space You know what? You say this every time I see you I am not a Mar-a-Lago lady

Are you sure? I am 100,000% sure I would stand out like a sore thumb You know I would Is that a threat? Who was it recently That's a great story Kelly No, I was thinking of

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loosened its grip. I stayed in this beautiful home I booked through Airbnb that had huge windows, a dreamy kitchen, and the kind of bathroom lighting that made me look slightly less gargoyle-esque. After one good night of sleep after the flight, I became the kind of person who orders a pen of chocolate and takes a long walk through the streets of downtown as if I've finally found inner peace. Meanwhile, back at home, my place was empty, silent, and developing the aesthetic atmosphere of a haunted house. And that is why hosting on Airbnb started to sound very very, very much, smart for my upcoming summer travel. While I'm off having my seasonal awakening in Quebec City or Prince Edward Island, my home could be hosted on Airbnb and earning a little extra

income to help fund my next summer trip. Or maybe it can help with a little home improvement project I've been planning. Either way, it feels better knowing that hosting your home on Airbnb can help someone else have a lovely stay while you get a head start on your own next adventure. Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at Airbnb.ca.ca. host. By the The time may arrive, something in me finally starts to thaw. The light changes, the air softens, and suddenly I feel an almost urgent need to go somewhere scenic. This spring, I'm planning a trip to Portland, Maine, where I found a home on Airbnb that feels like the perfect home base for a few days of coastal renewal. I want to wander through the quaint old port neighborhood like I'm in a Nancy

Myers movie. I'll be taking in the historic brick buildings in sea air and spending an afternoon on a lobster boat trip like I'm a salt-drenched fisherman coming out of winter hibernation. I want amazing coffee, a buttery pastry, a little browsing in local shops, and the kind of region-defining dinner that only Portland, Maine can offer. Spring travel has that effect. It feels like a reset, a gentle rebirth after the heaviness of winter. And when I travel, I want a place that actually lets me settle in and enjoy it. That is why I love booking on Airbnb. I want a real living room to come back to, a kitchen for snacks in the occasional light breakfast, and enough space to fully unwind after a day of walking and exploring in the sea air. If I'm traveling with friends, it's even better,

because we can all stay together and share the experience instead of being split up in separate hotel rooms. And of course, once I start planning one spring trip, I immediately start thinking about the next. Whether it's one quick may escape or the start of a whole season of travel, trips just feel more personal when you book through Airbnb. Explain to me, because I'm just going to be a little ignorant here.

Okay. What's the fucking point of a beeper if you can't pick it up? Okay, so this is what we would do because we didn't have cell phones. Right. And so you would page someone. and with like their number to go to your landline or a pay phone or whatever and call them. And if they put 911 on it, it meant it was important.

What? Yes. And so the marijuana dealers back then always had beepers. And so you would beep them and everything. And my marijuana dealer, honey, oh, my God, he was this gangster from like the Chicago. This one I live in Chicago. He was so hot. And he beeped me one time.

when it wasn't. I had not beeped him to get the marijuana. Oh, you think he was like, well, while I'm here. Honey. I was too scared to call because I was like,

what if this is a, like he's interested? And I didn't want to start something with my marijuana dealer. Well, I don't, I've never had a drug dealer, but colleagues have explained to me that it's a delicate balance

of pretending to be their friend. Yeah. Right? It's kind of like when you go get your hair done, it's a small talk, you know, you're like, I don't need the small talk.

Just give me my word. weed. Right. Go to the dog. Just refill my Vivance and let me leave. I don't need all the small talk. Well, I think some people are like, hey, girl, want to hang out? They have to pretend to be friends, but it's really like the weed smoking. One time I was with somebody who was buying cocaine, not me, I don't do cocaine, but they were on the phone and they were like,

can we get a small or can we get a large? It was like that coded where it was like, I have a few people over. Can we get a large? I'm like, what? Like someone's tapped the phone. They came over and they had a dog. It was a dog with it. A little dog? And the dog had one of those coats on? No. And the coat had pockets and that's what the drugs were. Oh no. So I wonder if the dog was trained to be like...

Honey. And then like if the cops come, the dog just takes off. Don't drag that dog into the ass. The dog's gonna get convicted. Right? Drug. A dog catching... A Pomeranian catching a charge. Do you... You don't have a dog, do you? No. I don't have any animals or anything. I'm pro-dog. I'm not terribly pro-cat. I know that the Sapphics who watched this hate that.

I'm saying that. I'm sorry. I love dogs, but you know I'm crazy about birds. I'm a crazy bird lady. You know what is so weird about that? Everything. Well, every time I get with Trixie, we've got to get a little woo-woo, you know, since Katia's not here. I almost brought my terror cards today. I thought we were going to do another reading. You totally should have. I think something's going on. You know what is so weird about that? The last few times I've seen you, do you know that birds have been coming through. And do you know, when I saw you a couple of weeks ago, there was a black crow coming through

and I was like, what does this mean and what does it represent? Do you know about the one in my yard? The one what? The giant black raven in my yard who kills other birds and eats their body in my bird bath. Wait, for real, for real in your yard? For real, for real. It is, it's a raven. It's the size of a football.

It's huge. And it sits in my water fountain, my front yard, and literally eats the bones of other birds while staring in the window at me. Trixie. It's crazy girl. So I don't know. That is insane. I'm working on getting a bird right now and I'm like kind of like, do I, should I put my new bird

next to the window to be like, this is, this is not your space. What are you going to get like a little parakeet? Something. And you think that's going to scare off that raven. I'm looking for a very. small macaw species or maybe like um i'm i'm i'm looking i'm debating between rescuing and going through a breeder obviously it's i think more ethical to try to rescue because birds are the number one most re-homed pet and i didn't even think of that they have rescue birds just like they have rescued dogs

yeah rescue birds i love that you have to rescue one i would like to rescue but when you rescue sometimes you're inheriting the birds like behaviors, history. You don't know. What if the last owner abused it and you get a bird that hates people or scared of, you know? You never know until you get it home. But I'm a lifelong crazy animal person. Right. You like animals?

I love animals. I'm the biggest animal lover in the world. Love every kind of animal. I'm a huge dog lover. I mean, that's my passion. Do you guys have a dog? I had a dog for 13 years. Edelbus was her name.

Oh, what kind of dog was she? She was a Shih Tzu. And she passed away. Oh, from what? Well, she was old, honey. She was like 30 years old or something. I don't think she was 30. No, she was.

Her teeth were falling out and everything, honey. She had had it. Do you know what, though? She had had it. She had had it. Having a pet get old as a privilege. It means you took really good care, right? Oh, absolutely.

Well, we found her when I was in college. So I had her whole adult life. Yeah. Found her in the middle of a rainstorm. We hung up signs everywhere, vet clinics, everything. Couldn't find the owners. So it just kind of happened to you. It totally, she came to me.

Is that how you found James too? Is it in the storm? I found him in the wanted ads. I know we talked about this one time when you were on here, but does James have some kind of foggy idea that you were at one time a huge slut? I think he's starting to figure that out. Because I think he has you on like Stepford Wife setting,

but he doesn't know that the other setting is like, stripper circus. I mean, listen, at the end of the day, The true heart of a slut never leaves a slut. Even though she might not be active in that way, I'm always going to be a slut through and through, Henning. The mind of a slut, the heart of a slut, the booty of a sled, the moves of a slut, mind of a slut, the music of a slut.

Honey, I will always be serving slut. I think you need to go visit Katia in the hospital. If you go in in this outfit, she's going to think that you're the angel of death. Honey, I will totally show up. She'd probably welcome that. She literally... Honey, at this point. She's not loving being in a hospital, and she's not living and loving visitors.

No. Because she's so uncomfortable, and she's in pain. She hates it. But I think if you go in... Let's go. I almost went and dragged the other day, like... Oh, my God. Like a Ronald McDonald's house vibe. Girl, can you imagine?

The nurses on the floor would be freaking the fuck out if Trixie Mattel came in there. It remind me the episode of Reno 911 where they go to entertain the kids at the hospital and she pulls out her gun. She's like, it's not loaded. Then it goes off. That would be me. That would be me. Girl, you have to go. I have a question because you know that I have a weird parasycial relationship with Denise Richards.

And I know that you have a Denise Richards story. Girl, I don't know if I can tell the Denise Richards story. How do you know I have a Denise Richards story? John Mark told me. Shut up. John Mark told me. Is it good or is it crazy? No, it's insane.

It's absolutely insane. But, okay, I won't mention any names, but I have a friend. We already said Denise Richards. Well, no, I'm talking about my friend. Oh, okay. I was like that the story's about. Okay, my friend. We won't mention any names.

My friend. Okay, how do I say this? My friend came over to my house one day. I'm just going to start from the end of the story. My friend came over to my house one day, panicking, banging on the door. I opened the door and I was like, what is wrong with you? And she said, do you have a wig and do you have an overcoat and do you have sunglasses? Give me your cell phone now.

And she goes and puts our cell phones on the stove in a skillet and puts a lid on them. What? And I'm like, first of all, I didn't even know I owned a skillet with a lid. Because I don't do anything like that. Why are you not reacting? If someone put my cell phone in a skillet, I would intervene. What is wrong with you? What are you doing?

And she said, people can't track our phones this. way. And I'm like, what is going on? And she said, just give me the disguise. Don't ask any questions. I got to go. What? The only thing she would tell me is that Denise Richards was after her. Okay, this is sounding like a drug thing. No, it wasn't. It's because my friend doesn't do drugs. I follow this girl on Instagram who thinks that Sandra Bullock is trying to kill her. No. And I don't think she's... Sandra Bullock just doesn't get those vibes. there is this

No, it's not a drug thing She was being for real for real But come to find out, Denise had been stalking her For years because of this mutual man That they both knew And so She had to go downtown In a disguise

To drop off something But thought that Denise Richards Was following her I just feel like unless you're in a movie A disguise is never the move Do you have an overcoat in a way? Do you have an overcoat in a way? wig? Unless you're Rupal.

Well, she loves the disguise. I feel like Rupal walks around in a weird disguise all the time. Do you know about the time she came to see Trixie and Katia high school reunion? No. Katty and I were doing a stage parody of Romy Michelle with Pichess Christ. Oh, I've been San Francisco. Yes.

And it was Trixie and Katia's high school reunion, like a parody of if Katz and I went to high school together, but it's the plot of Romy Michelle. Because we love Romy Michelle, who doesn't. Before Curtin, Peechis comes backstage and goes, RuPaul is here. Don't tell anybody in the cast because we don't want people to freak out. By the time I walk out of my dressing room, the entire cast is like Rupal's here.

Word travels like that. And I'm like, she is? That's crazy. But I had gotten a text earlier that day from someone at Drag Race being like Rupal's in town. She wants to see her show. I was like, sure. Apparently, she comes in last, like right when the show starts. She was in a sun hat, a COVID mask, and a wheelchair.

A wheelchair? Because I think she's so reckless. recognizable tall, I think it was like to hide out. Oh my gosh. Yes. And this, I did not see her, but this is what I heard is that she was in like a proper disguise to see the show. And I guess the thing is, RuPaul's so big. Right. When you're seven feet tall, you can't even secretly do nothing. Not at all. Tall people. Not at all bald people. It's like every room is an announcement. Right. Exactly. Don't ask me how I know. I know. Because I saw Leslie. Jordan live one time there at the gay and lesbian center.

Opposite of Tall. Rindberg theater. But Rupal came to see Leslie. And of course, Roo, you know, everyone notices Rue right away. Not exactly. Yes. Sometimes people, like when I used to go to Cassida at Camp, I remember that. Mm-hmm. I remember I seen Sean Hayes there a few times and it would be like, someone like that where you're like, this room full of people to see Lady Bunny, they're going to notice Sean Hayes. Exactly. The Lady Bunny audience is going to notice. Honey, I saw Jackie Beat there one time and guess he was sitting one seat over from me.

Parker Posey with Liza Manelli. Oh, fierce, girl. Are you fucking kidding me? And Caseda del Campo with like 20 people. 70 seats, 40 seats. Yeah, exactly. Huge fire hazard. Oh, huge fire hazard.

You better hope there's never an accident in that basement. When I perform, I want to perform in a place that is a fire hazard. It just raises the stakes. It raises the stakes and you're smoking. Exactly. The outfits are very dry. Smoking hot. Did you ever smoke cigarettes?

I bet you did. I bet you did. I bet you loved it too. I bet it was very like bad Sandy. Like, tell me about it. Girl. Did you feel it, girl? You know she smoked those brown moors, honey, those long, skinny ones, honey.

Did you feel it? Oh, girl. I'd sit there and flick that. The world was my asshole, honey. The world was my asshole. People's eyes. Flick everywhere. Everywhere.

If I was like, I think if I was like femme presenting, there would be something about smoking that would feel hot. Oh, it's so hot. To me, that's why I started doing it. when men do it. I get sexy when girls do it. Because they're all like this and hold it like this and they got filters on it and they're like you know and they

I was always like one that would tilt back and blow my smoke out from people and guys are just like right in your face men are just they can't help it they're hot. They're hot. This episode is in partnership

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lighting that made me look slightly less gargoyle-esque. After one week, good night of sleep after the flight, I became the kind of person who orders a pen of chocolate and takes a long walk through the streets of downtown as if I've finally found inner peace. Meanwhile, back at home, my place was empty, silent, and developing the aesthetic atmosphere of a haunted house. And that is why hosting on Airbnb started to sound very smart for my upcoming summer travel. While I'm off having my seasonal awakening in Quebec City or Prince Edward Island, my home could be hosted on Airbnb and earning a little extra income to help fund my next summer trip. Or maybe it can help with a little home improvement project I've been planning.

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Nobody's going to the doctor for a checkup, et cetera, because it's like going to a birthday party. So why don't we make something as easy and affordable as possible if it benefits all of us? To get involved, text update to 224.22. When I was in college, you know what got really big? those clove cigarettes. Do you remember this? Yes. They came in like a black container. Clove and white Russian.

And the cigarettes were also rainbow. They were clove and they were rainbow. And do you remember, everyone just smelled like ham? Ham. Ham? Do you remember clove cigarettes kind of smell like ham or something? I thought they smelled like black licorice. Oh, I always thought they smelled kind of like someone seasoning like a Thanksgiving dinner or some shit. What are you putting on your ham?

I don't eat ham. So I don't know. I'm not a good judge. That's true. Because I don't eat ham. When did you stop eating meat? about 10 o'clock this morning Hello I was nine I was nine years old nine years old

I was obsessed with that movie Charlotte's Webb the cartoon with um not Denise Richards I almost said that Denise Richards No

no oh the other real house wife Carrie Fisher's mom Carrie Fisher's mom oh Debbie Reynolds Debbie no that's the mom

that's what I just said Carrie Fisher's mom is Debbie Reynolds she was in Charlotte's web Is there an echo in here she's the voice of Charlotte I didn't know that. Twinkle, sparkle, let a little sunshine in.

That's Debbie Reynolds. You'll be on the right side looking on the bright side. Up with the chitty chintin. You know she was all popped up on pills doing that. It's a beautiful film. And it made me, it completely made it impossible for me to, like, separate animals from what's on the plate. That is interesting. That did not have that effect on me.

Obviously. I was terrified of spiders after seeing that, reading about it and stuff. I'm still not into spiders. Do you remember where the red fern grows? The book? Girl. I read that book. They had to take me out of the room I was crying so hard.

I cried child abuse. To death. When that dog died. You know what's crazy? I remember the line. His friendly brown eyes closed forever. Shut up. You're going to make me cry on your podcast.

I was like an eighth grade. I think I was on a school trip. No, no, no. My grandparents took me to Disney World. And I had to do my homework on the way because you miss a week of school or whatever. You have to do homework. And I was reading where the red phone grows, crying in the back of a Ford Explorer.

on the way to Florida like, uh-oh. No. That is a sad book. It is so sad. They read it in class. I had to be taken out of the room because I could not control my crying. People dying? Sure. I'm happy.

No. Boxcar children didn't care. Didn't care. Well, they didn't die, Kelly. Oh, they didn't? Their parents were dead. Oh, no. That's why they lived in a box car.

Oh, really? Yeah, it was kind of... Is that a true story? I think they were orphans, weren't they? Oh, my God. Weren't the Boxcar children orphans? That is wild. Look it up, Tracy.

Can you imagine? She don't even know what the boxcar children are. First of all, do you read? Yes. You do. I'm an avid reader. What do you like to read? I like to read biographies, autobiographies, things like that.

I just read, I've been really into horror again. I love to read horror, but I get scared. I have nightmares. I just read this book called Mother Thing. What? It's about this woman, her husband. Her husband's mother kills herself. What?

They've been living with and taking care of the mother-in-law. Husbands mother-k. Oh, okay. They've been living in the husband's childhood home, taking care of the mother-in-law who's really crazy. She slits her missing, kills herself. The book starts with them at the hospital being like your mother's dead. Why are you reading step like this?

I was reading it. Honey. So then she's trying to help her husband process grief. The mother starts haunting them. She's being haunted by her mother-in-law, And it's, the twist, I will say the twist, nobody's going to read it. So you're in that big old haunted house. Reading this book.

You've got the raven out there eating birds. Girl. And you're reading about this. Scary. Honey, this is dark-sighted. Very scary. And the twist of the book is that she's crazy. Huh?

The twist of the book is that the wife is crazy. You think? It's not necessary. But you know, that's a lot of the themes in paranormal things, which is like, is it paranormal or are you losing grip with reality? No. You know, it was really scary, though. I was, it was nauseating and sick.

It was making me sick. But I keep going on these TikTok wormholes of, like, the most disturbing horror books you could read. And then I'm like, I don't mean that. No. I need to get my body off the tracks. No, honey. No, I keep my reading lie. I was reading a Sandra Bernhardt book that I had not read before.

And I can't remember the name of it. It came out after Without You, I'm Nothing. But it was so good. But she talks, Madonna. is in The Little Thing said this book saved my life. Because remember when they were friends? Madonna and who? Sandra Bernhardt.

Oh, they were friends, right? Yeah. Weren't they like besties? Uh-huh. They were good Judis. I saw Madonna the other night at the Abbey. Oh, yes, I heard about that. Girl.

How was it? Honey, listen. It was really a who's who. It was crazy. Can we talk about these events, though? You show up to these events and everyone is stressed. the fuck out.

Yeah. And we need more glamour and less clamor. Oh, I love that. More glamour, less clamor. And you know what else I feel. You don't have to say it because I will because everyone hates me. But everyone loves you. You're America's sweetheart.

If you're at one of these events and you do not have a wig on, you need to be fluffing a pillow. You need to be rolling out a carpet. Everyone's a PA. If you're not a wig on, you're a PA. You're involved in making sure the rest of us get in here. Exactly. And sit down somewhere.

and there's a fan. Is there a drink? Am I comfortable? Am I well lit? Even getting from the car in? Yes. Is never fast enough? The whole night was just clamoring. Clammering. I got clamored to get in the door. I got clamored to get to the bar to get a drink. I got clamored in space. People freak out because you're there too, right? Well, I mean, there's a bunch of people there. And yeah, like everyone's, you know, I mean, it's lovely and it's wonderful. and the energy is chaotic and great.

But the minute the music starts, enjoy the moment. Everyone is trying so hard to clamor. And we're talking like Queens all the way in the very back. I was like, if you start now, you'll never make it, you'll never get closer to her. What are you doing? What is it you need?

And is your plan to run on stage with her? What is the plan? Just hold your champagne glass up in the air and dance and enjoy the moment. Get your little picture and video, then put your phone away and enjoy the moment. We need more glimbing. Lass Clammer, less clamor, honey. It was a, who's Luscious was there, too, right?

Luscious was there. Luscious was there. Luscious was right there. I love all the pictures of her just sitting there just like adorning Madonna. Yeah. Well, she's at the DJ. Julia Fox was there.

Julia Fox and Kylie Sonek were dancing on the couch that I think Eureka was dancing on for a minute and then evidently they pulled Eureka out and kicked her out of the club. I heard about that. Which I made the stupid decision to try to go to the bathroom in the middle of the set.

And on my way to the bathroom, room, I saw Eureka, and she's like, girl, what's up? And we hug. She said, I love you. I went on my way. I never knew this was happening to her. You had her kicked out. Honey, I had her kicked out. It was my fault. Callie. Blame it on Madonna, but I'm the one that had her kicked out. I said, get her out of here. Get her out of here. God damn son of a bitch. What kind of songs did Madonna sing? She didn't sing anything. They just played like her new songs. She just danced next to Stewart on the tracks. and they did hung up. Cool.

I think they debuted a new one. But like I said, I had made this stupid decision to go to the bathroom in the middle of it. And so I got slammed and pushed up against a brick wall and a barricade and I was stuck there the whole rest of the show. You see how you disrespect Kelly Mantle? Honey.

It's the Abbey. Oh, but girl, I was living, though, because there was this big old tall drag queen standing next to me. She's like, I guess we're stuck here for the night. And I was like, I guess so. And she's like, here you go. She had a little little.

bottle of poppers. Do you do poppers? Honey, I've never done before. Except one time on the podcast with Willem and I didn't know there were real poppers. What do you think of it?

Honey. I described the experience. I felt free. I don't like it. I feel so free. It feels hot. It feels claustrophobic. I don't know.

I just did one little snort. It's just like a, you know, you just breathe it in. What I think is funny would people pull those out at the club? I love it. It's like, it's not like you have to be

this close to smell. it. So everyone in your five foot radius is now doing poppers. Really? I just feel like it's such a thing. I didn't know they were still a thing. I think it's the trickled down economy. I think straight people are on it now. Have you ever done it? Yeah. But I don't. I don't see the appeal. No. I really don't. Well, see, I feel that way about cocaine. I've tried coke a few times in my life and I'm like, oh, give me. I was like, give me a, I don't know, I'm not feeling nothing except agitated. My nose holes are too big. Like a bump could kill me. You're not so.

Can you imagine? I don't know. But no, I appreciated that popper at that moment. Because if you're going to be slammed up against a brick wall in a barricade and you're missing the whole last half of Madonna and only hearing it. Yeah. I was like, well, now I can get into this. Lately, I just been sitting home a lot, but I keep getting invited to things. I've become so antisocial and I'm starting to feel like I wish I was more.

When I first went to L.A., I went to everything. I went out all the time. Went out to dinner all the time. lately I just like to stay home well honey you're you're turning over you're in a new chapter in your life you're enjoying the hard work and success that you have put in continuously non-stop for how many years now 10 years since drag race and of course before that but I'm you know what I'm saying yeah so you're like it's you get a chance to sit back and like relax and enjoy it all and take it all in and be like yeah this is great you know I mean

You need to do that from time to time. You know what I think it is too? I think it's because pride is coming. My body's clenching. Oh, yeah. My body's like... Do you have a lot of DJ gigs coming out? My body is like, if you want to go out and have a drink, you will be able to do that for about three straight months when you work every weekend at all these faggony events.

So I think my body's like, why don't you just sit home and have a glass of water, you bitch? Yes. You bald bitch. Why don't you just order some taco bell and sit down? Or some taco bell. I'll come over, honey. I've been playing PlayStation. We'll play tarot cards, do you?

You're a gamer. You like that stuff, don't you? Lately, literally this morning, I woke up at 7.30, couldn't sleep anymore, and I was like, my boyfriend's not up yet. I'm gonna tiptoe downstairs like Christmas morning.

I'm gonna order some tea and sit and play video games at 8 in the morning. It was a nice way to start the day. I used to watch the news in the morning and now I just play a video game. No, honey, that strategizes you. Your mind gets into strategy.

It helps me. It wakes my mind up in a way that I'm agreeable to. Yes. I've noticed for me if I'm like, if I have a Zoom at like 10 and I get up at 9.30, I'm so ornery and useless on that Zoom. Like I need, I'm getting to a point in my life where I need to boot up the machine hours before anybody needs me. I'm the same way. The minute I, that when I get up, I'll have a cup of coffee and I'll just kind of like take in everything. And then I have at least 20 minutes of meditation staring at a blank white wall and listening to Enya, Enigma,

something like that. It doesn't have any words. And it just lets you free your mind. Oh, yeah. You know, it's so important to do that, I think. You know, especially at the beginning of a day. So that you can kind of become a blank canvas and take it all in. I kind of, yeah, maybe I'm getting old, but I like this moment of like thinking about the day.

Like mentally making peace with whatever the day is going to be. Whereas, like, if I wake up and I'm. still a little bit sleepy. I can't be fucking... It puts me in a bad mood that doesn't go away all day. Because especially these times we're living in, honey, we have to center ourselves, focus ourselves, take care of ourselves.

Yeah. And be our best because every time we walk out that door, honey, it's a front line. How do you lock in on taking care of Kelly? Well, I start by doing that, usually every day. That always centers me and focuses me. I go to the gym.

I make the gym my priority. I need at least 30 minutes of cardio and then some light lifting, a good sauna. I love swimming. Keeping active, staying active. You're a good swimmer? Keeping your mind acting. I'm a great swimmer. You are?

Do you listen to music in there? Yes, honey. Oh, yes. Absolutely. You have music in your ears while swimming. Oh, no, not music in my ears. I'll just have music playing. In your mind?

Yeah. Many times music is playing in my mind. We just hear like water bubbles. You know, that is my dream someday is to do a music podcast. Because one of my favorite things in the world to do is to just break down songs.

Where did it come from? Why did you write this? Albums. All the things. Music videos. Oh, yeah. Jake Shears, did you see his podcast? Speaking of Scissor Sisters.

No, but I love him. Oh, my God. He had a music podcast or he might still have it. He did? It's so good. Yeah. Jacob. I love the Scissors sisters.

Yeah, I do too. Who kids today don't know about the fucking Cizzer Sisters. Girl, I saw them live at the What's that? Across from Capital Records? Where we just had the Queerities. Oh, the Queerty's. Oh, my God. I don't think it was called Avalon. But I saw Scissors sisters there when they first came out.

You looked great at the Queerty's. Thank you. You looked really beautiful. You came out and it was so fun. So did you. You hosted the night and it was hilarious and you look gorgeous. And you won. Can you believe it?

They don't tell me anything about who's going to win. So I found out when you found out. I found out when you found out. out standing backstage, John Mark and I were leaving to, because I had did that little bit with you on stage. Then we're like going back to our seats and the producers like, you need to stick around. It's your category. And I was like, oh, honey, we probably didn't win. We're just going to go grab a drink, go back to our seats. He's like, actually. And then I hear the Kelly Mantle show. Were you surprised? I was so surprised. I was like, wait, what?

Kelly, you have no idea what we're doing on the podcast. That is not true. When Kelly started when you started it, you told me and Katia like, should I do this? What? What am I going to talk about? No, I think you verbatim said, who's going to want to hear me talk? Exactly. Why did you not think that, I feel like, for those of us who are fans of you, that is what we want. I don't know how to talk. I'm not a good talker.

I'm actually very, very quiet and shy in life. So you always say that? I am. But you're always horrid out of your mind talking, drinking, gesturing with a cigarette. No, I'm not. Kelly's like, I'm a shrinking violet. Girl, I don't know. because the other thing that's hard for me, too, having been an actor my whole life, I'd never had to be Kelly Mantle on camera before.

Okay. And that is really difficult to do. Like, you're a pro at being Trissy Mattel on camera. That's the only thing I know how to do. I was talking. I don't know how. I was like, how am I supposed to do this? Well. And they're like, well, just be yourself. And I'm like, well, what if you're a hundred different people from one day to the next? I've been watching the Royal Housewives of Beverly Hills from the beginning. Don't ask. Don't ask. I don't know. I don't know.

You mean the new one? I'm on like season five. I'm watching it from the beginning. Oh, wow. And Eileen is on it right now who is a soap actress? Yes. She has like multiple daytime Emmys. She's been on 30 years of that show.

That big old house. But I actually thought of you because one of the questions Andy asked her at the reunion was Eileen, like basically asking her what was it like to go from your decades of experience acting to reality? TV. And she was saying, like, the reason I did it was because I'm so comfortable on camera after all these years, like, I wanted something that would scare me. And her talking about how, like, Andy was like, when you're on your show, you have your line. They tell you where to hit your mark. I never really thought about for people who aren't used to reality, that is like such a hard pivot. It is. And podcasting is kind of reality. It really is. Both of, well, and that's why Rupal's

drag race was so scary. me so I didn't realize it until I got there that I was like oh wait a minute I have to be Kelly Mantle oh yeah I didn't even think of that before I came here and I'm like I've never done that before other than like a little interview here and there throughout the years or whatever I was like wait I don't know how to do this yeah I was like you know I was like oh shit well there is that moment like when I remember when I first started doing drag I was not hosting the drag when you start doing drag you're not the host you're just some girl doing a lip sync or whatever And the host was, she was a body queen

And she was spray-adhesiving fabric to her body You know, some of the naked girls just stick fabric to their parts Honey, Carmen Carrera Yes, and she's like, I need you to stall And I remember being like, I never talked to the microphone like that No way. But I always think back to that formative moment of just I didn't have time to be nervous

Right. I just had to walk out there and talk. Well, and look at you now. I mean, that's crazy that like you were handed a microphone and then we were like, wait, what do I do? But I had only lip synced before. I thought that I was, I thought what I offered was beauty and seductive movement. Well, you weren't wrong.

And so then when I was like talking, and then afterward the girl was like, that was funny. You should do more microphone stuff. And I was like, maybe. But there are these moments like Drag Race where you are an actor and you get thrown into something. Uh-huh. I watched an interview clip today of you talking about being on Drag Race. You trying to tell the cameras where to go? girl listen now i wasn't trying to tell them where to go i heard you were telling them which side was your

best side and to go over here they were setting things she did oh oops wait what i guess it was on this pod oh it was on this pod that i said that yeah i'm sorry we repeat stories here so kelly keep it up so i've heard i know i'm always scared of doing that on mine too i'm like i've already told this story I was like, I don't know if we did, we'll just edit it out. You know what? If they liked it, this drag queen, Wendy Breeze told me once, if the audience doesn't mind hearing it twice, as long as they liked it the first time. Exactly. It's kind of like a song. If it's a good story, you want to hear it again. Yeah. You know? Tell the story again, Kelly. Well, listen. It's when RuPaul comes around to our work tables. And I was already a nervous rep by this point. And I had never drank a red bull in my life. And I thought now would be a great time to have a Red Bull.

You thought it was booze. Honey, I was trying to find anything to stimulate. me into something. If I could do Drag Race all over again, I would have bought booze. I would have brought brush cleaner and like... All kinds of things. I would have snuck in alcohol. Yes.

What was I doing? I was so goody-goody. What are they going to do? Shoot me if they find like a bottle of Fleischman's? I don't know. You can sneak it in a mouthwash bottle. That's what I'm... Why wouldn't I do that?

Yes, exactly. Why didn't you do that? On the weekends at Drag Race, oh, you've been good. Here's your Dixie cup of white wine to drink in your room. Now they get to smoke weed? What? I think so. Are you lying?

I know. I hear all the girls all the time saying I was so stunned when I did this. On all winners, they all just smoked weed all the time. Because jinx. Roger. They were like whatever jinx wants. Well, I guess for some of them, it's truly base level medicinal approach. It's like, what's the difference?

We put them on a bunch of behavior modifying drugs. Honey. What's the difference? If you have a prescription for it, they can't. Drag race on weed? That sounds like a nightmare. I would have loved it. Are you kidding?

would have freaked the fuck out. No. Unable to speak. Well, honey. You're a little light smoker, though. I like when she says, I smoked the marijuana last night. The marijuana. And you had like two little peps.

And you're like, oh my gosh, I'm so stout. Well, lately I've been taking a page out of your book. I have a little bit of booze and a little bit of weed. Yes. Maybe an ambient. I've never done it. Go lay down in the yard. I'm not a pill person.

That's good. I don't like the pills, honey. I don't like the pills, honey. But you're such a natural swallower. Well, this is true. I'm really good at swallowing, but I don't like appeal. I don't like the way it feels. I don't like the way a peel feels. According to the gospel, according to Kelly Mantle, do you think size matters with penises? Absolutely. It does. I really thought you were going to say absolutely not.

Absolutely it does. In what way? Well, and let me say this. It matters because some people like small ones. That's true. And so to them, that's true. That matters. Yeah. It can be too big. And then there's girls like me where I'm like, oh, you can't get too big. Right.

You want to fire hydrant. Honey. Traffic cones. I want to know what's going on. Right. You know. I want to. I thought you were going to say some kind of crazy, progressive, like, absolutely not.

All dick is valid. Oh, no. Honey. Honey, not for me. It is for some people. And that's good for you. That's how I am with Short Kings. I'm like, that's not my kingdom.

Honey. Happy for you. Right. We all have our preferences. I will get down on my knees and give you a hug and then it's over. Oh, honey. What do you think short men want ultimately? I think they want to be seen.

Yeah. Of course. But I've noticed a lot of tall guys love short guys and it's like a vice versa. Really? Yes. Have you ever been met like tall guys who are like, I love short guys? And it always makes me laugh because I'm like, girl, you're six four. Everyone's short TV.

What I love to see is I love to see a tall woman with a short man. Absolutely. Nicole Kidman, honey, next to Tom Cruise or next to that lesbian she was married to? Yeah. What's her name? Keith Urban? Yes. Honey, she's like towering about them, honey.

Do you know about Daddy Chonkla on TikTok? Daddy who? Daddy Chonkla? No. He's this like Caucasian guy, red hair. He has a black wife and she's taller than him. And all their content is like really earnest, like him making a basket for her for Valentine's Day or telling her what kind of date he's taking her. her on and it's like relationship goals.

Uh-huh. Um. Everyone thinks it's so like, I'm like, let's normalize it. I think it's great. Oh yeah. Absolutely. Did you see Nicole? Love short guys.

Love tall women. Yes. Let's do it all. Honey. I love a six four bitch. Oh, honey. I love when I'm at the airport and I see like young girl college athletes, giants. I'm always like, hey girl.

Girl. And they're only, I love when the college teams fly in like the matching hoodies and stuff. Yeah. Backpacks and everything. I know. They're like little army. I love it. And they get on the airplanes.

Remember when we were in the airport there in Australia and the team? That had just won the World Cup. That had just won the World Cup. You were, Kelly was in heat. Honey. When I tell you. These rugby players were walking around with the cup. Honey.

I was just like. Kelly was like on the floor at the airport. Honey. Yeah. Honey. Honey. Kati was freaking out too. The whole team.

The whole team. I could take the whole team. Did you see Nicole the other night at the Met Gala? Nicole who? Kidman. Oh, no. Girl. Why?

Did you see any of that? No. How come there weren't any drag queens invited to the Metcala? I don't watch any of that. Fuck that shit. The whole theme was supposed to be turn art into fashion, and you don't have any drag queens there? Where was Utica? Where is Gottmick? Who is Utica?

Utica. You know what I'm saying. Where's Utica? Uranus. Eudica, get down here. Utica is living on your... You know, Utica would have eaten that up. I think she would have eaten up. She really... She would have worn the carpet and eaten it.

That horror knows how to make an outfit. That's what I'm saying. Why weren't any drag queens invited? I think Simone's done it. And I know Violet's done it. That's the only people I know who've done it. I know why. Because that motherfucking Jeff Bezos. Oh. Has RuPaul done it?

Yeah, Rue did it one year. Did you see what she wore? No. She was out of drag, I assume. Oh, was the camp here? That's when Violet went. Because Violet had that dress that looked like a glove. Yes. That was cool. Violet. We don't ever...

I don't ever have concern about whether or not Violet's going to present something that pleases me greatly. What would you wear to the Met Gallup? Stay home. Girl, I can't do anything like that. I've only been invited to a few fashion things. And I don't know if people know that none of that is like paid at all. None of it's paid. No, a lot of them pay to go.

That's what I'm saying. It's like to fly to France or something to go watch a fashion show could never be me. Your TikTok outfit, though, when you hosted the TikTok Awards? That was so cool. Oh, I did love that. Yeah. So cool. She pitched it.

She said, well, it was so good. She said, TikTok is the new TV. So how about we do like a TV look? I was like, that's a great idea. Such a great idea. The static gloves. Yes. I love that dress.

I hope I can use it for something else someday. Yeah, that was really good. Sometimes when you wear in an outfit like that for an event, it's kind of sad because you're like, this will never get used to again. I know, exactly. You could wear it in like a music video. And then I have the two guys, maybe the TV head. heads?

Mm-hmm. That was cool, too. Those TV heads are just sitting at my house now. I've no, don't know what I'm going to do with them. I'll bear them. Where do you keep all your drag? Do you have a lot of drag?

No, right? I mean, not really. I think of, you know, I mean, my life is pretty much just this. So I don't really look at it as drag. Yeah. That makes sense. Well, like, you have a tour coming up.

I have some evening gowns and I have all those things, you know, like in a drag, you know, area and drag closet and stuff. But no, I mean, like, I would wear this to the grocery store. What are you going to wear on your new tour? Do you have a special costume made for a tour like that? What new tour am I going on? Don't you have a show coming up? You have a show in Phoenix?

I do. Oh, that's right. We're starting to take the podcast out live. Kelly, you've gotten your pod to a level where you're going to do live shows. John Mark told me about it and you're sitting here acting it's not happening. Utica. Utica is a show in Phoenix. Kelly's going to be at home.

We're going to take the Kelly Minnell show live. So drop a comment on where you would like for us to come to see. Oh, wait, this isn't my podcast, is it? I won't see the comments. This is your book. I'm just happy for the engagement. Kelly, if you guys want to go see Kelly Live, it's exactly this. I don't know what to say.

Hey, listen, we did it for the first time in Boise, Ohio, and it was so amazing. Boise, Idaho. Idaho, Boise, Idaho. And it's not just a podcast. We open, I open with a song, like we have music. John Mark had choreography and dancers. Oh, wow. We had, we had Hot and Freddie.

Huh? People don't know John Mark was like a dance divot. Such a good dancer. Yeah. I know. Hot and Freddie. Are you familiar with them? Oh, they're incredible.

They're incredible. They were our guest. What? On the podcast at Tree Fort and Boise. I love that song, Shy Girl. Yes. Oh, my God. It's so good.

They're amazing. I love them. Congrats on their wonderful success. And Lady Gaga reposted them on her birthday. I only know about that because I saw TikTok on their page. It was like, you must, if you're here from the Gaga video, it was like, oh, that's weird. It's so good. Great artists.

Scantily clad woman. That's Kelly's theme song. Scantily clad man. I love Hot and Freddie, honey. You guys, go see Kelly. I don't know what to say other than it's exactly this. Everybody wins. There could be dancing.

There could be Hot and Freddie. Anything could happen. Honey, we got to stick together in these Trump-Pultuous times, so let's get together and let's lift each other up in humor. And if we feel like crying, let's cry. If we feel like speaking to spirits, let's speak to spirits. Let's just live our lives to the fullest. And let's check out the Kelly Mantle show. Ain't nobody going to stop us now.

Exactly. And please check out the Kelly Mantle show, which Trixie and Katia executive produce. Oh, my God. We shoot them on these very cameras. Yes, we do. Wow. And see, there's our curtains right there because this is behind the purple curtain. Is that crazy?

Now you know. I don't think people know. I know. All right. Bye, Kelly. Bye. I love you.