The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - Let the Goode Times Roll with Gigi Goode

Episode Date: March 9, 2021

Trixie & Katya are joined this week by the runner-up in the twelfth season of RuPaul's Drag Race, the Gigi Goode! The convo runs the gamut from Australian accents to hot Scooby-Doo characters to wig confidence to the olfactory evils of Drakkar Noir. Follow Gigi: @TheGigiGoode Follow Trixie: @TrixieMattel Follow Katya: @Katya_Zamo To listen to our podcast on YouTube: http://bit.ly/TBATBYT Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Savings may vary. Eligibility and member terms apply. I have a really bad Australian accent. I just, I love it though. I love it. I think it's because I'm so worldly. Yes. Everywhere just seems like everywhere.

To me, it's the most charming, for sure. What's charming? It's the most charming. Do you watch Kath and Kim? Kath and Kim. Kath and Kim. It's most charming Do you watch Kath and Kim Kath and Kim It's like Look at me

Look at me That's my trigger For Australian Is the Look at me Look at me Oh Bogan

Bogan right She's the right Bogan Bogan Like kind of Country Yeah Yeah

Yeah right I tried to do When Iggy was here I tried to do the accent for her And she was like She was just offended Is she Australian? Oh that's right

Yeah Her name is Iggy Australia Oh Igloo Australia Yes Igloo Australia Did you know that she She got her stage name from She did the drag queen thing

Of her pet in the street She grew up on Yes Her first animal was Iggy And her street is The street her family still lives on. That's great. That's really touching and charming.

What would your drag name have been? It was Pet in Pet, and then your pig cock slave name. Your fucking pig cock slave name, honey. Shove that big fucking pig cock right in that hole, honey. Oh, honey, my hole. It's like chestnut lassie. Neko Bergeron.

Oh. Sliding down the greasy pole. Yeah, weird, right? I feel like that's a... Neko? Neko? Neko? Yeah, Bergeron.

Neko was the street name and what was... No, Neko was the pet. Oh, it's pet first? And then street name. Neko Bergeron. What would yours be, Gigi? Of course, of course we have gg good here today by the way good morning good morning good morning good morning good morning look at me i'm celine

there's a peter fall in the school peter yeah. Oh yeah. I think my name would have been Tonka Winslow. Tonka Winslow. Tonka Winslow. We had a dog named Tonka growing up after the truck. It was my brother's choice. And we had to, my dad gave him away when we moved without telling us. Oh.

Tonka Winslow. So if this is a drag race, I would try to bring that back To how it hurt you And it affected your drag today Yeah What would little Tonka have to say? That's just where

All my references come from What would you say to little Tonka? Little Tonka We love you We're going to get rid of you Sorry my dad sold you to Bob the Plumber Sorry Oh man

You're right babes You're right Do you alright babes? Do you alright? Do you think You guys like the UK drag race huh? Love Love it Love Love

Love Love love love Ginny Lemon Ginny fucking Lemon Ginny Lemon Ginny Lemon had me on the Croc website the other day Seeing if they have pink Crocs Uh huh

They don't Okay They do have yellow for men And they do have white But they don't have pink Do you think they have like a Santy Alley of, um, of the UK?

Oh, because I, I'm just, I mean, you know, the, the platform Crocs are like Balenciaga originally, but I don't know.

Something's telling me she's not wearing Balenciaga Crocs. Something's telling me the same thing. So I, and that's the only place you can get those knockoff of Santy Alley. She had platform Crocs? For the promo she did. Oh, the promo.

Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yellow. Maybe they gave her a pair just maybe yeah maybe she

maybe I need to reach out who knows she's gonna get a lot of free shit that's yellow oh yes from now on oh yes yes I love her

I think she's so crucial for that fantastic whole show to have yeah I do the pink I've done the pink thing less but I did all pink

all the time for like years if you had to pick one color today that you have to wear forever. Green with red hair. Oh, green. Oh,

so good. Yeah. Good choice. Like an emerald. Yes. Very like forest emerald, darker greens. With like the turtleneck you have on right now.

Yes. Is this a Demi permanent hair color? Demi. Can you see my roots coming in? I'm asking because when you have a deeper hair color? Demi, very, can you see my roots coming in? I'm, I know, I know. I'm asking because when you have a deeper hair color, you can do red like this without having to lift or really change it. Oh yeah,

it was demi permanent for sure. It was much more vibrant when I started. It looks great. It looks very natural. Thank you. It's gorgeous. Appreciate that. How old are you? You look 12.

I just turned 23. 23. Yes. This one's 48. I'm 48 years young and she's 38. Yeah. 23. Yes. This one's 48. I'm 48 years young and she's 38. Oh my God. I thought she believed you.

No, that's why I was gagged actually. I stopped. I wasn't joking anymore because she believed you. Oh, 10 years ago I stopped joking because I would say I'm like 15 years older than I am.

People are like, oh, you look good. Not even by, it was so, I'm like. Sometimes social cues are hard for me when it comes to people joking about things.

So my brain automatically goes to believe what they're saying because they're probably telling the truth that's probably that's a good that's a good instinct actually yeah well when i found out pandora box was 75 i was i was totally gagged yeah yeah you almost had me there that's the biggest gagger yeah but i mean i look i look exactly my age i feel like maybe a little older i'm 31 but i think i've looked 35 and older for a while so i'm hoping that since i looked old young i'll get older and people be like you look just great you're gonna benjamin button totally i'm gonna benjamin wouldn't that be nice you're just you're fucked because you look young now you have a little bit of you know what she has what

obviously i hope you take this as a compliment oh god weber i'm trying to see sigourney weaver i'm trying because you have a you have a structure a bone structure that is so it is like a precise yeah thank you it's not like you don't have one of those wishy washy faces like you know who sigourney weaver is yes of course this isn't drag race if you don't know the reference we're not going to shame you no i do know who Sigourney Weaver is and I'm very honored that you've got to do a working girl Catherine Parker fantasy

so when she was the rich bitch boss in that you I mean that would be so cunt that would be so great I've been I've been searching

for some references to pull lately so and when people think of your drag they think lack of references lack of knowledge

of fashion, flat hair, no makeup on, casual Friday, fat, clavicle, so fat. Someone recently sent Violet a DM with a whole slew of insults. One of them was, you're heavy. Violet has the tiniest waist. She's just really dense. You are heavy. You're full of bricks.

The content you put out is very heavy. So funny to me. Emotionally. Was it great being able to walk for, uh, you did Fenty this year, huh? I did Fenty.

Yeah. Fenty. It's lovely. It was very, very fun. Seemed very choreographed. Crazy. And the amount of takes that all those dancers did.

Keep in mind, there was like 80 dancers. And they were going hard. They were going hard. Like pull out every time. Enough for me and Shay to just be standing on the sidelines for a good hour and a half waiting to go on. Damn. It was really fun. Was it scary?

Terrifying. It was like the first big thing. Because that's a fucking big thing. Yeah. That's a huge thing. I haven't done anything since the premiere at Mickey's. What are you doing this week? I'm in a major women's lingerie campaign.

What are you doing? What are you doing? Run by the biggest star in the world. Yeah. What are you doing, fat old cunt? I'll be modeling the lingering. I'm walking with Rihanna, fatty. Hey, flops.

Rihanna and I are walking in underwear. Bye, flops. It's wonderful. You know, in a year where, we talked to Jade about this, in a year where, you know, you guys really didn't get to enjoy the same built-in experience that we got.

I'm glad that there's nuggets like that that will stand the test of time. Well, and they also stand out. Because it did it did like way more than i think it would have if i had been like city city city oh here's this opportunity to savage fenty do it and then leave more city city city right i really got to like anticipate it and then afterwards absorb it and feel like it was like a really special moment yeah so um granted i mean i i do kind of feel like our window of that whole experience is gone and i'm i'm at peace with that you should be because honestly i don't always remember bars i played until i'm in that town at like an after party and i'm like i performed here

yes i smelled something but i never remember the names of you know the clubs or anything yeah well it gets overwhelming, I'm sure, because there's not enough time to process. I'm assuming. Yeah, and all you know is the dressing room and the stage. And when you're visiting a bar recreationally, you don't have either of those POVs. Yeah, that's true.

Have I been here? Right, exactly. You said on Hey Queen, is this still true that you've had not met any fans? I've not met a single fan. I haven't. I haven't. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That is so cruel. That is It's insane. It's wild. And it's like you know like

it is crazy. I'm laughing because With me. How can you not It's absurd. The universe is so cruel. It's absurd. It makes you think

at night when you pray for something good to happen have stipulations. Totally. I hope i get on drag race but if i do um can i not have a pandemic let me tell you a secret um but right before right before drag race aired i was so nervous and i was like um i'm i don't like traveling well it stresses me out a lot like the airports, airplanes, everything like that. So right before drag race aired,

I remember we, I had just gotten home from the house of Avalon's house and I was really like excited and anxious for the announcement. And I remember it was 11, 11. And I said, I really hope this year I get to have as much work as possible and spend as much time with my family as I can.

And you got it. And I think, I think I brought upon the pandemic. I respect the hustle. That is fierce. But I'm also sorry. But you know what? It's not about being, I think at this point, there is no tone deaf. There is no read the room.

It's okay to look at the situation and be grateful for what it provided. Exactly. And it's, I mean, everyone says their experience is different. So, you know, house of Avalon, you guys are like family. You got to spend this whole year together.

Totally creating. Absolutely. Which has been incredible. And, um, going back to the not meeting any fans, I very much have the mentality that everything online is not real. That's a great mentality.

That is so healthy. And can I just say this? Can I just say this? And you know, on this show, I like to get vulnerable. And on this show, no one ever lets me speak my mind oh no i get cut off on your own couch i get cut off on my own couch i'm just blabbing all day i can't get i think that you're smart because people go on televised drag shows and they get wrapped up in the internet comments

way wrapped if you're being bullied you need to turn off Way wrapped. If you're being bullied, you need to turn off your phone. Exactly. If you're being cyber bullied, you need to get off the computer. Some of the girls just don't. This season, the fact that Drag Race has to make like,

please don't bully the girls. I said, the girls need to get off the computer, sis. And listen, you cannot. Okay. It's like trying to control the weather. Hello.

You cannot control the weather. And most of the time, time the people there are the things that these people are saying they don't actually mean or believe they just want to be the first one to get a retweet and for me the the realization and this has been happening a lot with candy as well my realization was when my mom started sending me dms that people were sending her that is i mean yeah the thing about candy is and i only know her very little but this week specifically i'm like i hope candy has somebody in her life reminding her that the internet is not real they put the phone and you don't have to engage in it all yeah because these whores they don't know shit about drag and you do yeah so fuck these people yeah i know it sounds awful no no i fuck the 12 year old inyear-old in Omaha or in Idaho or Brazil or whatever.

If you're on to the Olympics of drag, then you have the right to be up on your pedestal. You think Gabby Douglas is at home like, you think I'm short? Yeah. Yeah. She sure isn't. And you're Gabby Douglas. Fuck those people. Everybody on Drag Race, you have the right mentality.

And I think a lot of girls get there. Sometimes it takes a while. And there have definitely been some girls on my season that have definitely gotten the short end of the stick when it comes to self-worth when it comes to the perception of the comments and everything they've let it get to them and i think they've all kind of come to their senses since yeah but and also there's the there's a difference a huge disparity in the volume and amount of, of, of sort of online hate that people get. Some people get done.

Some people get a ton. Yeah. Again, it, nobody's coming. Nobody's knocking at your door and like with the pitchfork, there's no angry mob outside of your house. Yes.

And it's hard sometimes too, because well, you know, and get your hole ready. Some, some of the girls on my season have definitely had some angry mobs at their doors as well. But,

um, it also comes with the, uh, since there's been no meet and greets a lot of the times the girls who are getting bad comments online can rely on the fact that people have bought tickets to their meet and greets so they know there's going to be some positive yeah so now the influx you don't get the only attention that they have is the non-physical the non-real and the hate which most likely is always an extreme. It's so wild. Every drag queen out there, all of us who love you,

you owe it to yourself to just fuck those people. Yeah, and you know what? I mean, I don't care if next week Candy Muse punches someone in the face and looks right at the camera and goes, I meant it and I loved it. You're Candy Muse and you're fierce and fuck all those people.

I want a t-shirt of Candy Muse that says arrogant.'s what i want seriously yeah and those of us who stan you were like don't pay attention to them yeah fuck them yeah but one thing i did see was that she at least there's a recognition that it was a great episode that there was a great tv and that's the point exactly that is the point and separate yourself yeah yeah that's where it ends like she is i mean her bio literally says candy producer muse she knows she knows and i just uh i have to say you're very fortunate to be so young and have that level of confidence you know what i love and i know you're probably over it because it was on television a long time ago when rupaul had concerns and you said i understand your concerns

i do not have the same concerns rupaul has never been stood up to until that moment and he was like i literally saw i think i like that for why i saw one of his eyeballs because you know you could go in there and say i love my choice it's going to be incredible he's like do you think it's too incredible yeah right you were like no thank you i don't want to participate yeah well for me that came from um the off camera my other two choices for snatch game me being like i definitely can't do my other two choices so i'm sorry but i don't have the same concern as you i'm gonna do this one what were they they were um james charles oh my god that's fierce and can i ask are you bothered when people say you look like him um no because i definitely

see the resemblance i don't at all he's fabulous makeup artist. It's a great person to get compared to. He's also 19. Exactly. Physically. And he's gorgeous. Yeah, he's beautiful. My other one was Kristen Stewart. Oh, that's a fun one.

Interesting. That fucking robot, it was so fucking good. Thank you. I mean, it was like the perfect snatch game. The perfect snatch game. So doomed to fail. Well, I thought that might've been the episode I was going home. It works so well.

And let me tell you, I was bricking it up on the stage. Bricking it? I was bricking it. It was so well done. And you did lots and lots. I mean, it didn't, you rely on this kind of like, okay, I, you know, the same kind of joke or the same kind of response. You had a whole lot of variation.

It was really, really fun to watch. And I don't like watching the snatch game. Really? It can be, it can be. And I love watching the snatch game. We've talked about it before. Snatch game is so quick to watch, but in real life, it feels like a turtle crawling and no joke lands because there's no one to laugh.

Yeah. Um, nothing feels funny. Okay. So moving on, but. So does your mom still sew for you? Yeah. She does. That's great.

There, there has been a bit of a lull. I've, you know, like as with everyone has throughout this pandemic, it's kind of felt a little bit like lack of inspiration here and there. And I've been kind of trying to dip into different other types of like female illusion and stuff like that, which often doesn't require a campy handmade costume. and stuff like that, which often doesn't require a campy handmade costume. That being said,

I'm very much over that little phase and I'm trying to get back more into the camp and everything like that. So my mom is currently sewing her fingers down to little nubs for me right now. You better put that whore to work. You better put that whore to work.

She has a flickering light bulb in a warehouse somewhere. The only source of light is on her machine. She's a black smoker coming through the chimney. Her ankle, his ankle monitor. If she gets five feet from the sewing machine, she gets shocked.

Mom, we love you. We're obviously joking. Do you do your own hair? I do. I have never ever in my life worn hair that anyone else has styled. Okay, Mary,

because I'm going to tell you something right now. I saw you on that fucking Hey Queen show, and that red hair was so fucking good. Thank you. Do you do hair for other people ever in your life? Yeah, I have. I mean, it's just not something I've ever like really advertised. That's what I did when I first came to LA is I would do a lot of wigs for girls. It's fantastic.

Could you pause your career and do hair for her? Yeah. Please. Honestly. Can honestly slow it all down yeah let's do it if you'd like to see katya in a gg good way i'll just give you that red one yeah it is since and i i honestly i feel like i mean now it makes sense like because you're you're you're uh because your skin and everything you look sensational but that that bright red is hard to pull off i think for drag queens you do it do it really well. Thank you. It doesn't look,

it doesn't look like a joke. It looks legitimately seductive. Yeah. It looks so milky. Yeah. Lovely. I think you wear the right amount of, um,

shading on your face for that color. Thank you. Cause I think reds, especially when you're fair can just make you look like a skeleton sometimes. Well, I think the, the, um,

one of the most important questions about I've ever been asked about my drag persona is what is her natural hair color. Oh, so like I, I'm assuming I, I'm assuming both of yours. Okay. Well,

what, so what's Trixie's natural hair color? Brunette. You think, I think bleaching your hair blonde is a totally different energy than growing platinum hair. And I think Trixie bleaches it every six days. You are right.

Okay. I love that. Because it's trashier. Yeah. I like, I've always liked the idea of a paparazzi barging in and Trixie doing her roots. And that's like her version of a nude. Yeah.

People find that's her sex tape as people find out. It teeters the line of the trashy, but it also teeters the line of like the stunning Gwen. Yes. Like never a root in sight. Yeah she's a brunette naturally. I also found out that Trixie is short for Patricia and I'll never be the same. So my name is Patricia and I'm a brunette.

Patricia. Trixie. What's your natural hair color? When the question was asked immediately the word came into my mind brown. Grey. Salt and pepper. Salt and pepper. The pubic texture texture salt and pepper pubic texture you if you ever write a song to remember to use that as a verse like if it was like a covid special it'd be bleach blonde but the first four roots of new

growth is silver is silver silver. Which silver? One inch of Brillo silver. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it like flat. Like you got hair transplant from your pubic hair. That is so fierce. That's so funny. What an interesting question.

I think everybody should be asked that. Yeah. You learn a lot about yourself. Yeah. I have never thought about it before in my life. Never. I love it. We're going to take a break. Looking for a path to accelerate your career?

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there are everything I'm working on right now involves an NDA, which is thrilling. And I will also say it, I'm working on several different projects, all on very broad aspects of creativity, all, all walks of, you know, what have you, I have like designing going on makeup, collabs, professional sports,'ve gotten into soccer and water polo mostly um but it's it's exciting because it's things that i've like the reason i auditioned for drag race was to do these things that i'm currently working on yeah that's awesome i'm loving in the middle of a pandemic mind you well you know what the irony is if you toured all this year you wouldn't have time to do any of that exactly and you might have showed up like uh exhausted and half drunk or something one of these opportunities

you know right so i have a drinking problem um not yet i'm working on it yeah um i i i lately i've actually been trying to prove save space do you have a drinking problem would you like one I'll take two oh god I've been trying to prove the house of Avalon wrong because I'm very much always the first one

to go home and the one to drink the least and they are like Simone is a party animal she loves to drink Hunter loves to drink Grant like all that

I love you girls over there I met them when I did you do Sway in Little Rock Arkansas I sure fucking did you did I remember that video of you as a cheerleader.

I loved it so much. Those whores turned it. That's when I met Benton Girl Tyler. Oh, with the Uggs? Yes. This drag queen, Benton Girl Tyler.

Benton Girl Tyler for short. I wouldn't say it's quite, it's not the drag you'd imagine. It's a female illusion. It's a gay man in a blonde wig and a low pony with like a von dutch hat and jeans and uggs with the hole in it there's always a toe poking through the uggs yeah oh that's and that it's every single look is a variation of that like no foundation but uh really glossy lips all the way around wow yeah arkansas arkansas crazy and but i will say without the hus of avalon someone like Benton Girl Tyler

would not have had the opportunity to perform. Totally. And they have definitely created the space for that. They left it there for them and then came across to LA to create a new one. It was one of the most glamorous, fun, interesting gigs I've ever had. Really?

But up at the top, I felt very that girl. And then walking down and going into the stage, I felt in that place. But up at the top, I felt very, a very, that girl. And then, and then walking down and going into the stage, I felt very that girl. I love that the stage is all mirrors behind you.

It's really cunty. It's fucking cool. Yeah, it was fantastic. As far as like wiggle numbers go, I felt like, yeah, I felt like Paula Abdul.

And I went to the after party at their house at the time and that's when I met the House of Babylon and they left such a strong impression and then they showed up here and started doing snap out of it yeah and then one day i didn't realize they moved here one day i walked by the bar and i was like oh my god this is those people from market saw in the vip booth is this your party yeah and um they're just

so great you're so lucky to be around people like that i count my blessings every day yeah i live right across the street from them that. Do they keep you in check? Yes, and that's why I need them. They say, wake up, you fat, ugly bitch. Yeah, pretty much. Hi, Flop. Hi, Flop. Wake up, Flop.

We need friends like that. Well, it's Hunter's the one. Hunter's the one that keeps you in check. So if I ever go on tour, he's going to be the one that's throwing pillows at me and dragging me out of bed. He's got damn mother vibes big time. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's fantastic.

I love his personal style. He makes me wish I was a vampire. I know. He looks like a, he does, he gives big time Lost Boys. Yes.

Lost Boys. Oh, the 80s. Oh my God. That is one of my favorite movies. So sexy. So sexy. Yeah. He and Mark are like,

one of the sexiest people. Very unrealistic. It's just, it's just, it's, it's like a boy band. It's also disarming because they're so down to earth. It's like bizarre.

It's like if a Backstreet Boys was with a Lost Boy and they were both really nice. They were both really nice. The Lost Back Boys. Yeah. It's like, the Lost Back Boys. Yeah. They're like really,

it's so like sweet and there's no pretension. It's bizarre. Yeah. Pretty amazing. Unlike you, pretentious pretension. It's bizarre. Yeah. Pretty amazing. Unlike you, pretentious whore. Pretentious, absolutely. Can I ask a question we ask all our guests? When did you know you were beautiful?

I just found out the other day, actually. And it was quite the eye opener. Harry Potter owl came. I got my letter finally in the fireplace which i didn't have a fireplace which got me good um i don't know i my mom has always told me every every day that i am like great and amazing and so i've just been like keeping that with me since i was a child and but in a way that's not like you know there's like those only only kids out there that um are definitely insufferable cretins.

Yes, because of the fact that they've gotten nothing but praise and you're the best, you're the best, you're the best. My mom definitely kept me grounded, but definitely let me know like, you're not the best, but you're the best at what you do. And you are, you know, no one else compares to you. You're entirely different. Your mom is Sinead O'Connor.

Nothing compares to Oum. To Oum. It sounds like you got raised right yes thankfully yeah thankfully that's great and I mean I owe all my drag to that I love that she's like you're incredible don't get me wrong there's people I got other kids who are better singers better actors but you're cool at what you do but she also didn't give me a window into looking at anybody else when I was a kid. So I didn't know who any of the pop divas were. I didn't know any of that. Like to me, it was Donny Osmond. It was Karen Carpenter.

It was like, that was my upbringing. Have you seen the documentary Superstar with Karen Carpenter? With the Barbies? So fucking cool. I was just actually in New York with Gina and I let her know that i was a karen carpenter fan and she she said hold on i have something for you and she pulled out a rock and

gina garan yeah she pulled out a rock and gave it to me and she said here's a rock from karen carpenter's grave oh wow wow so it's this is the last kidney stone she passed it was huge yeah huge huge she has gina collects um she's like the og collector of um my god what's her fucking name blithe she created blithe yeah she basically created blithe yeah do you know what blithe no the doll from the 70s completely unpopular total flop wasn't on sale very long people didn't respond to it very much and then what in the 90s or 2000s Gina Geron wrote a book It's like a tribute to the history of the fashion of this doll No one liked and all of a sudden people were like, what is this doll blue? It's so chic. Where do I get one?

Really? So this vintage no one cares about toy is now like one of the most hard to get expensive It's so collectible. And she's a stunning little doll. Beautiful doll. How does it compare to Kelsey over here or whatever? That's Dusty. Dusty. I love Dusty.

The first time you pulled out a Dusty in a video, I have had pictures of that doll saved on my phone for so long just to use as reaction photos. She's so good. I love how many you have. I'm'm not kidding i probably have the world's best dusty collection you really don't want it you really do right next to rupaul right up there i wish i'd gotten one of those the new one is different right then the new maquette it's like a yeah they told us they ran out when it got to our season oh for fuck's sake mine broke several times you have i have two of them one from all stars and one from this

and then you have the gold one don't you have the gold one yeah she got the miss congeniality when it's that so i've chrome i got three yeah i got three of them and they're all broken they're all yeah they're not you should just piece them back together with separate i should yeah two left hands i don't want to expose anyone but i believe when i won all stars i was supposed to get one of those plated in gold the new ones yeah and Yeah. And it never happened. World of Wonder, if you're listening. World of Wonder, come on. I think I was actually in my dusty phase when I went to Arkansas.

Well, we always, it looks like, do you remember Katya's tanning phase? I got very tanned at a moment. The hair too. I'm pretty sure you were wearing that hair as well. Yeah. You remember you came in,

you remember you came in to the hotel and I was baking? When I mean baking, I had slathered bodybuilder tan. She used bodybuilder tanning solution. The color of a football. When you wash it off and metallic, but before you wash it off when it dries,

it's like tar. I opened the door almost naked with that on and I gave her a fright. I was also tanning in the sun bed. Yeah. I was double duty. That was crazy.

I remember you and I were at a college gig and I was backstage just like. So incredibly tan. Yeah. It was like, it was like, I never really, I didn't tan long enough to know how to do the face with it. Like how to appropriately. Like match the foundation. No.

Like what kind of eyeshadow to use and how. Do you know what I mean? Sure. Yeah. Like if you're really tan the only shadow is blue don't you think oh absolutely it makes you a terracotta with like a white cream base

on it oh yeah the white or I mean you know white frost yeah and then the lipstick like a tan-o-rama

like tan frost I can't that I can't do though that Mac-do no I love that you and Mac-do what is Mac-do can I ask another question?

We asked all of our guests. Who's your ultimate take my breath away. Inspires me every time. Beauty icon. Give us three. Cause I know you can give us three of us. Three. Um,

Linda is my number one. I Hamilton. Yeah. Linda Perry. Linda Perry. Well, okay. Well now you just need my three.

So that's quite the trifecta. Hamilton, perry yeah that's pretty that's pretty fierce actually um i would say linda evangelista that's who you fucking look like well she's my like i i want to mirror her career i want to like wear any hair color and make it look completely natural. That's the goal. Number two would be Daphne Blake from Scooby-Doo. Oh, good one. The character? Yeah. Which one is Daphne?

The one that Sarah Michelle Gellar played with the red hair. The red hair, purple. Do you like Sarah Michelle Gellar as Daphne Blake? Yeah. Like for me, it's more the cartoons. For her, like the very unrealistic body proportions and the hair that never moves. Daphne and Velma is the one with the glasses, right? is the with the glasses one with the glasses she is not my number three oh wow you said fuck velma you said velma's lesbian now right

yeah maybe well she always has been yeah people always hypothesize she's like like what's her name in peanuts there's Peppermint Patty and then Marcy, who's like her lesbian lover. Oh. I think, yeah. Don't you think Velma's like, I'm too smart for all this, but I'm in love with Daphne, so I'm here. Oh, I can see that.

This one's for the girls. Yeah. Yeah. That bowl cut. Poor Velma. Daphne just doesn't have a clue. Velma is chic, though. I will say, I do like her outfit more than Daphne's.

Absolutely. But Daphne's hot. That purple with the red, like hot. Really, really hot, yeah. Oh, she's hot. She's hot. And you know Fred dicks her down in the back of that band. I don't know.

But Shaggy's got a dirty dick. Shaggy's got dirty dick. Shaggy's got a dirty dick. I don't think, Fred's not straight for sure. Fred is not straight. Because the whole theme throughout the show Is that he always Dismisses Daphne Yeah faggot

She's always fawning over him And he's always clueless Working on his traps He wanna fuck the dog He wanna fuck the dog Scrappy He's the third Don't throw me off the cliff

But Barbie I'm not gonna throw you Off the cliff Yeah She's always Always always been It Mostly for me It's the um the the variety in

careers hello because when i started doing drag my thing was like occupations like i would just dress up as different jobs and occupational therapy i would get in drag i would go to people's houses who'd had a fall on the you know on the clock and i'm in the media mine's occupational hazards the occupational sandals great point of view yeah when you first start drag because everything you want to do there's a reference for it what the proportions and colors could look like and and everything ties together always yes um there's there's always that running theme and i just i i kind of think the the message that's always been there whether sometimes it's definitely been questionable in the beginning, you know, like it's always been, you can be whatever you want to be.

And as like a little girl myself, I was like, fierce, I'm going to be. What hasn't Barbie done? Janitor, maybe. Yeah, medical billing or like, she's been, obviously she's been a waitress, right? Yeah. I don't think she's been a waitress, right? Yeah. I don't think she was ever a repo guy. Yeah,

she's never been a repo guy, assassin. We haven't seen Barbie as an assassin. Well, we may have, but it just might

have been disguised. Disguised. Yeah, yeah, yeah. President. Embalming. Embalming Barbie.

Physician's assistant. Yeah. But even at the time, like you can't judge today's standards by, you know, but Barbie in 1959, a single woman with breasts who had no husband in her own apartment that was basically the most offensive thing anybody'd ever heard and incredibly unrealistic but something that little girl saw as completely possible yeah so you don't get to meet the fans in real life do you get a lot

of dms then from the kids i was was going to kill myself, you know? Yes. I'm not making a joke. No, no, no. You're right. I'm that a lot. And the first time I had gotten one of these, I was talking to Naomi about it and she was like.

Because it came from her. Yes. Yeah. I can't believe Naomi Campbell wants to kill herself. Well, I saved her life. No, but Naomi was like, well, be prepared for it to happen in person to yeah at the meet and greet it's yeah it's and um interesting it's it's a very

like i often battle with even the concept of having a fan or being someone that someone looks up to or an eye like i i don't i don't you know for me i'm only doing this for myself and it's just an amazing plus that other people are enjoying it and loving it with me. But it's really hard to grasp the concept, especially since I haven't met anyone that anyone is like a big fan. And again, when it comes to social media not being real for me, I often do read everything and I can disassociate from all the bad stuff, but I find myself not reaching for the messages just because I don't want to see the negative as much. Yeah. I think that's a good thing.

It's good. I mean, I think that's, and I think your job is to provide the content. Exactly. That's good. Yeah. And they want to write letters to Santa.

They can write letters to Santa. They get a release from it knowing that maybe you won't see it. I mean, exactly. Anything is a bonus. I mean, maybe you won't see it. I mean. Exactly. Anything is a bonus. I mean, anything you decide. That's why I feel anything, anything you decide to do is extra. And like, you know, if you're always going to be good, it's always going to be responding

to something good rather than, you know. Don't worry about being perfect. Worry about being Gigi good enough. Good enough. Gigi meh. Gigi meh. She's not great. She's good. She's good. good exactly we're here with gg flop

oh god i mean that's really i mean really impressed but also maybe not surprised because i feel like you're 23 um you maybe have more of a natural facility with navigating social media and and also the fact that you don't think of it as real is very encouraging to me. Very encouraging. I would think not to stereotype that the younger people are now, the more they think everything on the internet is absolutely real. And not only that,

it's like legitimate social capital. Like it's like all of those likes and those people, dollar signs and career, you know what I mean? Like that is not necessarily the case. Yeah. It's definitely generational. And the term generation has almost narrowed a little bit to where now it's like each generation is only like three four years apart you know right so like the the age group

that is like three to four years younger than i'm i do think takes a lot you know as a generalization takes it a lot more seriously and you know when i like the first time i had a phone was when instagram was coming about you know so i was like interesting i started instagram very humbly posting just pictures of whatever the fuck i could find um and now there's kids that are starting instagram with the attention intention of i need to get it's over a thousand likes that is so crazy we've talked about the aspiration of you used to be an influencer because you had influence I need to get over a thousand likes on my first show. That is so crazy. And it's sad. We've talked about it. The aspiration of,

you used to be an influencer because you had influence, because you do something that people respect. And now people aspire to be an influencer, period. But think about it. It seems crazy, but if you, I mean, I was thinking about it the other day and I was like, I mean, that in itself is another thing of like, it's just an extension of their personhood that needs to be developed

or else, dun, dun, dun. You know what I mean? If they don't have a growing follower count, they're failing at life. Do you guys think there's going to be people, like I think there'll be a little bit of a renaissance where there's going to be people who unplug from it entirely. There's going to be more young people who flat,

not having social media is going to become the new cool. Yeah, exactly. No, I agree. I think so. I agree. Number one thing in a potential like mate that are like a,

like a boyfriend, like that would be the number one most attractive thing. The last two guys I was involved with had no social media, social media, most attractive thing in the world. Yeah. Mine is having never seen drag race. Oh yeah. That's, that helps too. That seen drag race oh yeah that's that helps too

that's my number one yeah that helps too that's tough because then you're gonna have to break but at least when they've seen it you don't have to tell them what you do for a living exactly you know what though a lot of times drag race isn't cool anymore so it's like it's it's not like i mean i'm talking just in gay like in the queer community it's not cool you're right and the gay guys love it but they're not enthusiastic they don't claim it the way they used to right i mean i'll watch it but they're not like going out to watch it with people they're not making it like an event they're not proud that they found this nugget they're like yeah we all watch it of course it's nfl exactly it's sports exactly and like what you know yeah i, I screamed at it. I was with a couple of gay guys that I don't usually watch anything with.

And we watched it and screaming at the television, screaming. Yeah. And it wasn't even on. It is fun. The TV wasn't even on. One person would come on the screen and we'd just go, oh,

yeah. And of course it's, but the, the, the, the key component in that is keeping it in that room off of the screens, off of the phones.

Like it's okay to fucking hate someone's outfit, hate someone's attitude as long as you're doing it with your friends. It's fun. And you're not taking it that seriously as soon as it goes from finger to phone. Oh, never. Yeah.

I think that's smart, Gigi, because you are amazing. You're so talented and beautiful and so far so nice, but we'll see how this goes. I know. Wait till the microphones turn off. But there's always going to be people, you're going to find this, that you go to the club and there's going to be someone who just goes like, I didn't really like you. And you go like, okay.

Yeah. You know what I really want for you though? Like, do you remember when we first started traveling? Do you remember the first time there was like a huge bar with a thousand people there screaming and you're like how is this possible i would love that and it's gonna have the same impact or like flying to brazil i mean thousands of people in a nightclub and you're like how do they even know who i am you'll need a security guard to prevent the people from grabbing and pulling insane you're like how is it i don't deserve i mean it is that way it's a magical experience i want it you'll have it you'll get it absolutely

eventually yes no one wants her i'm okay for us for our season it was the letdown expecting to get it and then the 100 to 0 instantly for this current season they already knew so they're approaching in a different way right um so it is a little bit different um so you know what though everybody being stuck home means you had the most captive audience ever and the x the um the the build-up the the the edging i mean you've been edging the crowd for like you know for a year or whatever that's but that's what makes it harder to keep doing more and more and more until you get the chance to you know you know usually it's you're at the top you see everyone and then your drag just starts to decline because you're just

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Visit edwardjones.ca slash different. You're such a gift. Yeah. Congratulations on a wonderful show. I'm excited for you. Thank you. You had one of the, I think, just like, couldn't change anything about the way people found you on Drag Race. It that means a lot yeah really your promo look fucks me up i think

red white and blue is so hard to make look chic yes and the evil knievel thing i'm like you better work well i'm a slut for a challenge and a prompt i love a prompt oh yeah i love it especially when it's hard to to work around and i was not about to be one of the girls that was just going to use the colors in like a silhouette that I normally do I was like it's red white and blue we're going to go with something everyone knows we need an air let me ask you about this because this came up

I think with Simone and the you know because now like Violet was on the pit stop, right? And she was, I mean, she sure was. If you guys haven't seen Violet on the pit stop, that was the friendly edit. She said so much more shit, you guys.

Oh my God. Some of those looks, she would just go, no. And I go, what about the next look? And she goes, it's not a look. I mean, and then Lala, I'm just going to say it. Lala Ri, they cut, Violet just said, I'm just going to say it. Lala re they cut. Violet just said, I didn't really like it.

Like cut. And Violet was like, gave a monologue to all the people that that look was a slap in the face to like production. Everyone you're competing against RuPaul, every drag queen and the entire audience who watches the show. You just told them you don't care. I mean,

she let them have it. I mean, my, when I watched it, that was the episode we watched with with i watched with other people and it was a kiki like it was screaming yeah i thought that she should have been eliminated as soon as she got off the runway lala yeah angela was at home going finally somebody this is a person i got eliminated at a ball challenge

for wearing a boo-boo outfit and like but it was it was um sewed it would that's the thing fit it was like it was horribly styled and didn't make any sense but it was still a garment that the ball was gutted i've realized that this season is not about there have been some really great runways it's not about the looks this season when from the judges perspective this season is about star quality and personality. Who stands out? Yeah. You know, that's what it's about.

Yeah. You and Jada ended fashion. Fashion's over. Over. Yeah. Sorry. Completed. Sorry, ball. Sorry, flop.

I love sorry flop. Sorry flop. Hi, flop. Is this the best thing ever? What's on your, like, when everything goes back to normal, obviously traveling, what's on your dream, like, as a go be gg the star well i'm i'm dying to i've built some really

amazing relationships with some brands and houses and designers and i'm dying to walk in shows i just like and i know there have been queens in the past who have i don't want to walk in a show as a rupaul's drag race girl i want to be walk in a show as a RuPaul's Drag Race girl. I want to be cast in a show as a model. And just like, I want to do, I want to work as a model. I want to work as this kind of like non-binary can do either. I mean, that doesn't seem impossible, especially because a lot of times the run with the Fendi one, they're mixing menswear, women's. I feel like I see a future that is not very far away where there's no men's

women. Exactly. I'm excited. Why is she couture? Why should there even be there? There's more and more kind of gender fucked going on with that. And I'm happy to model out of drag in drag. What have you?

So that's whatever. Dick balls and pussy. Yeah. How about your breast boobs and titties? Yeah. So that's one thing I also just want to do I would love to do like kind of

fashion corresponding red carpet yeah that would be really fun I would love to just stand on a red carpet and read someone for their outfit do a house do a revamp of MTV's House of Style that kind of thing I mean that would be really fun I would love to just stand on a red carpet and read someone for their outfit do a house do a revamp

of MTV's House of Style that kind of thing I mean that would be amazing oh my gosh it's really funny that you say that are you friends with Violet

not close but we no one is but no one's close we've tried yeah some of us

have tried you can't break it no one can I would say I have her closest friend she won't return my call but she does this fabulous program

where she pulls from the archives like she'll just pull a show from 12 years ago and she'll look by look say what she loves about it you could do it

on your YouTube absolutely and I want to do that with Marco Monroe that would be great because I mean his perspective on fashion is something i've never

seen he's fantastic he's i still i will not get i've been cleaning out my closet for years and years and he made me three dresses that are so fucking they're so unique i could never get rid of them they're so i can't wear them anymore ones you're talking about i can't wear them i went to the streamies and i have this other white one and I, there's a black one to the streamies with the glasses. That was so, I mean,

it's, and I gave him these fabric. I went to London and got these incredibly overpriced fabrics. I brought him home. I was like, here,

I said nothing. I was like, I don't know. Just take the fabrics and please make whatever you can. And he's incredible. He just knows. Incredible.

I mean, it's like, there's a fine line between talent and gifted and he's definitely got it. And he's hot too. I mean, it's like there's a fine line between talent and gifted. And he's definitely got it. And he's hot, too. I know.

Like, how dare you? He knows how to wear a hairpiece. Oh, my God. You think he would come on The Bald and the Beautiful? Absolutely. Because he is a champion of baldness. Absolutely. I couldn't believe that was a unit. And he's got some really fun.

It's a unit. It's a unit. It is. And I didn't. The first time I met him, he was wearing one of those. And then when I went to the after party at their house and he just snatched that thing right off i was like hot both ways that motherfucker i know it's really that's how men should if men are gonna wear pieces develop that relationship with it we're like we all know it's a exactly it's fun

it is fun yeah but dying your hair is fun yeah that's not quote unquote real who cares oh my god you should totally have it he has some great perspectives on the industry. Marco, if you're listening, we'd love to have you. Yeah. Yeah. I should jerk off before we do that episode.

Oh my God. I'm sorry. Cut that out. No, don't cut it out. People know who you are. Yeah, yeah,

yeah, exactly. You are allowed to be a guest, but you do have some sex ahead of you here. Yes. You're going to have to rail this pig on the couch while I talk about the weather. ahead of you here yes you're gonna have to rail this pig on the couch while i talk about the weather she only left 12 seconds and then she goes down for a nap so okay so i noticed you said earlier that you kind of have one of your dream attributes for a man would be to to not watch

drag race any other things on the menu dream wish list for the man um um maybe not quite as severe as violet but a sense of style yeah and you're you're not quite as uncompromising as she was like you can be butt ugly but if you have a cute belt i love that yeah i love that too exactly and i'm the same way for me it's not as much as like you need to be wearing this brand or this label or something but you need to like i i really respect and appreciate someone and i'm attracted to someone who knows how to dress themselves like like us exactly right you know thoughtful effortless yeah yes well it's it's it's different when it comes to like drag too because for me it's not like if you're a drag queen more often than not i'm thinking about it in drag for you

yes rather than out of drag because you know could you date another drag queen no okay and i have okay i just for me i'm a person i couldn't do that rupaul can you imagine oh my god transgenerational love stories may december drag romance my god mama that's january and december yeah you're wondering why i didn't win oh my god i would say um that yeah so that it's just i i just love someone who who smells good too oh yeah it's a good fragrance okay i'm with you on that yeah i am a snob for fragrances and because i'm a smoker it's very important to me for someone else to smell good no because i smell like shit i always smell like shit so i have to i'm there's always a fragrance at arm's reach

and like but in i if i if i yeah if i see a dracar noir on the shelf i don't like well oddly enough another thing i'm attracted to is like the smell of smoke on someone too. Interesting. Well, you'd put, you'd take the smoke with a little Tom Ford and then you're good to go. Were you white trash? Oh, I was white picket fence.

I've been with guys where they have like liquor on their breath and I'm like, why does this turn me on? Well, I love guys who smell good. Something I was first liked about David was he just always has like cologne on and all that. Yeah. Yeah.

That's me too. The first guy I fell in love with. Incredible. Well, thank you for coming all the way over. Yeah, of course. This is fantastic. It was so much fun. I had a good time.

Where can the children find you? Well, I'm on a hiatus right now, so nowhere. I'm just kidding. Did you delete your account? Oh my God. That would be so chic. That would be so chic. I'm on a hiatus right now. So nowhere, but I'm just kidding. I'm honestly, Instagram is the, the, the main portfolio for me right now. So you can find me at the GG good there.

Twitter is my house. You do those damn Tik Toks with the shoes. No. Kick the shoes. Thank God. There is someone who took my name and has like 70,000 followers on Tik Tok. So props to them but no no you write tiktok and you get the name i did i used to be tricksy mattel eight and i got tricksy mattel but i don't want tiktok okay good then don't have it but can i get it i mean i love being friday do you want mine no that would be fantastic you can

have mine now we're talking now we're talking have mine. That is so confusing and weird. Can you guys have each other's? That would be incredible. And it's never explained. That would be incredible. It would never show our faces. But Gigi did. And it's just you being like, woke up today feeling Gigi.

Hashtag me. Like, feeling Gigi. It's just recording you feeling me. It's you and the baby filter. It me, Gigi. That is so funny. Okay, bye. Bye.