The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - Monét X Change & the Subtle Levels of Crazy with Trixie

Episode Date: April 30, 2024

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I hate to bring up a sore subject. Oh God, what was it? Remember the fierce typo at DragCon? Oh my God. DragCon UK 2020. That was the omen to 2020. We should have known that the year was going to be fucked up. It was sibling riverly.

Riverly. So we sat in front of that fucking banner after thousands of people taking pictures. And on the last day, Bob and I are in the Uber driving to London Heathrow Airport. You didn't notice for days? No. Girl, we didn't notice. DragCon was over and we're in the car driving to the Heathrow Airport. You didn't notice for days? No. Girl, we noticed DragCon was over.

And we're in the car driving to the airport. And it was a thing on Twitter. Sibling Riverly. And I was like, girl, what are they talking about? And we're looking at it together in the car like this. And literally, it felt like a movie. We were like, girl, Sibling Riverly for the whole DragCon weekend. It's kind of a slay, though.

Is it? Because I wouldn't have noticed if people wouldn't have started saying it. Yeah, me either, girl. Sibling Riverly for the whole drag on weekend. It's kind of a slay though. Is it? Because I wouldn't have noticed if people wouldn't have started saying it. Yeah, me either, girl. By the way, leave it to some snot-nosed fucking Drag Race fan to be like, well, actually, it was misspelled. You know what I mean? What if that's my art, bitch? To misspell the name of my podcast. Yeah, bitch.

You don't know about my art. Well, these are the same fucking people who would be like, they watch Drag Race and they're like, here's what I would have done. You know what you would have done? Nothing. And cried. Because you can't dance so sing act and you can't even stand up straight bitch you would have done nothing you would have done fucking nothing you would walk to the workroom and start crying and piss your pants girl you would have pulled out your tampon and laid down that's all that would have happened that's all that would have happened that's all that would have happened you know what i agree thank you

that's the whole pod you guys we have money exchange here today can we get in the pod started already yeah i just feel oh god i'm stuck with katya and it just feels so liberating to have a real woman of energy a woman of dignity thank you also i'm in a shade i kind of matched because i'm in a shade of pink right burgundy's a shade of pink kind of well we both have a top knot on yeah we look like you know what it is it gives bring it on oh and i'm the rancho did you ever watch bring it on too with hayden panettiere i didn't see it i didn't bring it on one i said i saw an interview with um what's her fucking name kirsten dunst and she gave an interview that came out today that was like people are always saying

you should do a sequel to bring it on and she's like why why do you need to see me do it bring it on again at like 35 no no she's not 35 now she must be like 55 well that sounds aggressive 450 next you're gonna call her what old wrinkly nasty dried up I don't mean that in a negative way but what is Kirsten Dunn's going to give us and bring it on to now unless she's playing like a mom or something like we don't want to see that

unless she's like maybe she's like the mom of a cheerleader who now she's the principal I just feel like this is a culture obsessed with reboots yeah sometimes things can just be good yeah because a teenager now could watch bring it on and still live yeah it's not like it needs to be updated it's still really good but also i mean no shade what you put gabrielle union and kirsten dunn side by side no shade grab a union still look like she's in high school. I haven't seen her recently, so I don't know. She could literally do Bring It On again as a teenager. Oh,

1000%. Gabrielle Reunion. Gabrielle High School Reunion. I think of these celebrities who have not aged a bit, and they probably show up to, like, do you think Gabrielle Union goes to, like, her 20-year high school reunion? And everyone's crinkled, and she's like, so I'm still 15. What a

flex, though, girl, to show up. Like I have, I've never been to my high school. We've had, I've had one, the 10 year one already and I didn't go and I really regret not going. Why didn't you go? I don't know. I feel like I was really busy with drag race stuff and I just didn't, I just didn't have the time. And I was like, I don't need to go to that, but I should have went. You should have went.

Mine was scheduled the summer I did All Stars 3 and I had responded, you know, online. You had to pay a $10 fee so that you get a free hot dog when you go or whatever. Girl, ours was supposed to be at a baseball diamond at a small town. Are you fucking kidding me? My graduate class was 30. How much money do you think we got, bitch? Oh my God. Really? 30 people were in your graduating class?

Yeah. Well, not much, but I was 70. I was like 80 or 100, but was also like A small performing art school In New York so That's still a small number Yeah it is Compared to most people Say hundreds

Thousands Yeah Thousands Yeah I remember going to see My cousin graduate From high school in Milwaukee And seeing

You went to the big city Groups of teenagers Walk across the stage at once Yeah Like they didn't even Individually hand It was like Yeah

A cattle call Like alright The alphabet P Everyone with a P I have a question They didn't even individually hand. It was like a cattle call. Like, all right, the alphabet, P. Everyone with a P. I have a question. Because this is a very black thing to do at a graduation, right? Where they call you and they're like, give it up for Trixie Mattel. Your family's like, yeah, Trixie, yeah.

Did that happen at your school or no? Well, my family, yeah, but my family's black. They're not. My family is such half half indigenous half white trash that they were probably barely there they were like uh they're like education when has that helped anyone you know no they were there they were there you know in a small town they stretch out a graduation oh god there's only 30 of us so they make us walk two at a time and you walk like two people at a time step oh no they drag it out because there's not enough kids to make it an event yeah they can

hand us all of our fucking diplomas in 30 seconds you know like they should do that fucking remember that scene in the grinch where he's like junk mail jury duty pinks that's how they should give graduation fucking diploma i just got jury duty summons and i don't know what i did too i fucking did too what is yours mine is may 6th mine is literally next monday damn are you gonna go of course it's my civic duty are you gonna break the law no i'm going to go as well i'm very i'm actually very excited to go well now that you said on the podcast, now you have to fucking go. You could have said nothing, but not, you know, I'm not excited to go, but did you do

the orientation? No, you have to watch an orientation YouTube video. And this woman comes on, it's like, welcome to the Los Angeles. You know, they say they, she describes it as being, doing jury duty as part of your civic duty. And it's an exciting opportunity to observe the justice system in action i said bitch where i can already smell the shitty box lunch i get already girl girl well here's the thing because like because i know back when i was a civilian and gen pop i would when i had drew duty is that what you call not famous

yeah the general population that's very Orange is the New Black, bitch. So back then I got like a thing for my job and they excused me. But now I'm like, I am my job. So what do I write a letter on behalf of me saying, Monet, Kevin Burton is excused from. Ooh, not me saying my government. Girl, I literally was doing a YouTube video earlier and I said you were coming over. I said, well, I got to get ready and look good because I know Kevin will say something. Come on, Kevin. You know what I was talking about the other day? I did and look good because I know Kevin will say something. Come on, Kevin.

You know what I was talking about the other day? I did Good Children podcast. You know, Good Children. No. Those two F-words who are like from New Jersey, New York area. No. Two gay guys. Okay.

Okay. Okay. And they were talking. They're from New York. And I said, you know what's so crazy? I said, when I first met Monet, she had a car. I did. Having a car in New Yorkork let's talk about it

i went to school in jersey and then so i learned to drive in jersey and this one when i graduated i brought my car back home and i was like i liked having a car in new york it was fierce i used to pick up girls from the airport i picked up trick of tricksy kim from the airport multiple times back before i was part of when i was still part of gen pop i wasn't on tv yet so what are we now though if we're not gen pop are we are we are we are we're solitary confinement we are aren't we death row yeah yeah we're not no death row is like stuff like similar like beyonce that they beyonce cannot ever have a normal human experience ever no like she can never go anywhere and not be recognized so she's on death row girl she can't do nothing anything i can't even tell you i you know i always

said if i was to break up with someone i have broke up with someone since i have been on since i have been on tv and been gamest but like and my inclination before it actually happened was oh when we break up i'm gonna go and let the world know and let people drag him but now that's i feel like that's such an immature thing until i'm in that situation again, or I hope I'm not. But if I don't think you will, because I don't think anybody will date you to begin with. So I think you're good. You're right. I don't think that's good either. I think, unfortunately, like the most dignity you can get with a breakup is to have that kind of be between you and the other person yeah honestly right like in my mind it like bad bitch me the bad bitch in my mind that i am which i am not by the way i'm like a sufferer in silence i'm a people pleaser i'm like all those things but in my mind i'm not that girl i'm like i'm that girl i'm not that girl you are on twitter sometimes no not really compared to some of the other girls no yeah some of the girls are wild these new drag race girls i love that they i feel like for years the drag race girls were like no i want the fans to like

me yeah these new girls are like i'm gonna fucking fight a fan today i'm gonna fight a fan on twitter today oh yeah i love like q like they like ran off twitter though lux lux i like sometimes yeah i love when girls like no trinity trinity trinity has time to fight people on fucking twitter trinity will like go through their news feed screenshot shit they was t.s madison oh do you see what she says to the drag race fans the other day oh it was did i see it am i a nikki fan like did i see it delicious she posted videos of her new house renovated and somebody was like i guess you can't buy style. You better believe she went through their Twitter,

screenshot of pictures of their house. She reposted pictures of their Christmas tree and said, I know you're not the one talking about my fucking house. She is the best. Are you a pink Christmas tree? We have both. We have normal and pink. Do you like pink trees?

Do you like pink trees? I. Do you like pink trees? I don't like decorating or anything, period. You don't? My boyfriend now is really into that stuff. So like, I go along with it. Do people know about your boyfriend? I mean, yeah, I talk about him on my podcast. Okay.

Yeah. Why? Do you know something I don't know? No. Well, we have him here tonight. No, I'm just kidding. He's here. No, I didn't really talk about David for the first like maybe.

I mean, I didn't show pictures of him or anything until Trixie Motel really. Really? Yeah, because I was pretty private. Yeah. About it. Yeah. And now they've been together for how long now? Seven years.

Seven years. Yeah. Which one more year your common law? That's living together though. You have to live together. Then it's common law. Oh, really?

We just moved in together last year. Nice. I moved in together at eight months. I know I have problems. I have problems. No, you're not. No, that's normal.

I was on the fast track. You think six years without moving in is normal? Six years is a little while. Can you look in the camera and say that? Six years is a little while, but I mean, but I think I was too fast though. Eight months is crazy.

It is crazy. Are you 20 years old? Is this your first boyfriend? You know, a lot of my fans think that I'm Gen Z. And I want to show that I'm not a Gen Z girly. But the people think I'm Gen Z. Are the people who think you're Gen Z in the room with us now, bitch? No, I will say you have a Gen Z sensibility because your style is so like current oh really

yeah you have a great sense of humor the kids love you well i'm dressed today like i'm like uh like i'm a 90s uh black comedian like i'm about to do um the queens of comedy entirely oh for sure the hair kind of gives it's like a little bit pop star but the outfit is very um unapologetically 90s comic for sure yes uh-huh like i'm like me and some more could be on the same like page it's very queens of comedy the little hoop to the little hoop also you know what the little hoop gives it gives like lauren hill sister act oh little 90s earrings do people tell you look like fucking shirley ralph all the time i hear that a lot i do not see it and i love shirley ralph all the time i hear that a lot i do not see it and i love shirley ralph okay but people do say it all the time okay because i see all the time i get

her i used to get jennifer hudson a lot before and i don't get anymore now it's shirley ralph which i don't know do i look more like shirley ralph or is she just more part because of abbott elementary like the kids know her now i get her all the time well she goes to more award shows now and she gets in high glam and i do think when she look gets in high glam she obviously looks more like a drag queen oh yeah for sure yeah um but listen if you're gonna get compared to somebody but also shirley ralph her at award shows it's so camp and like when she won that award she goes She goes, I am an endangered species. It's fierce. I was like, Cheryl, what?

Go off, bitch. I love it. I love crazy. I love it. Girl, you're co-host. Of course you do. You obsess. I work with her. I'll tour with Tammy Brown.

I only collect the craziest among us. And I'm like, come on, because I'm trying to look normal. Yeah. And I'm like, come on, because I'm trying to look normal. Yeah. Are you Dave, a claims-free hybrid driving university grad who signed up online? Well, Dave, this jingle's for you. Who saves with TD Insurance?

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Are you the crazy one between you and Bob? Now you know the answer to that question, Trixie. Bob is an unhinged person. He is really crazy. And like he's, Bob is like bouncing all over the place again, but such a brilliant mind. And he's literally one of the funniest, smartest people I know, but crazy.

Crazy person. We've aligned ourselves with crazy people for our careers. And I think there are benefits and there are also demerits for that yeah i mean you know um katya's fucking crazy i mean she's certified crazy yeah but she also was like maybe experiences bob with katya i do kind of always know exactly what I'm getting. Oh, yeah, for sure. With Bob as well.

Katya's like, she just is like rubber to the road. She's just herself. She'll say if something bothers her. She'll exclaim if she loves something. I just always know exactly where she is. Yeah. Because she doesn't care about like, I don't know, fake gratitude or like celebrity. She just is.

Yeah. Bob's kind of like that too yeah well i was like that he is very he's very you always know what you're gonna get he's the same every time which i can appreciate and i can admit that sometimes i i don't always show up as my best self and you know he works with that and i appreciate that who's the like who's the complainer you bob is i must i must in my life just not in podcasts i must suffer and silence her. Like, I will, like, suffer something that is unsatisfactory and just deal with it or fix it myself instead of complain about it. And Bob will be like, I don't like that.

Yeah. How are you? It's so funny because you would think between Katya and I, you would think that I'm the diva. Mama. Really? I wouldn't say she's the diva that makes it sound bad but like the reason we have nice hotels is because of her the reason we will get really nice food is because of her that's me too you will speak up for things when they're not right and she has a way of like speaking up for the both of us because she's the one where I'll be like, if you say this,

they'll do it. Our manager, who's, um, a person. He did. He, um, he love,

love all that girl. Oh, can I just say, just, just be gay. Just be gay. What here's the thing with, again,

all these alleged acts that have happened. Like if they are like, I really don't understand this thing of this like this dl closet thing like like you said just fucking be gay to tell people you fuck someone in the butt a little bit that you just be gay you got some head from a dude a little bit who cares yeah who cares that much i don't fuck with obviously like coercion power right i don't fuck with any of that right right right right just be gay i'm talking about the fact that maybe him and cvj like he topped cvj bitch that is hot and apparently all these tapes i don't even need to see the visual just give me the audio girl that

is enough spank back material for me to enjoy myself for a solid two audio dipsy that's your like a female um ejaculation audio book. What? You know that shit? That shit with – that female-centered sexy audio app where it's like sexy stories. Oh, we did an ad for them before. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. They need to make Dipsy.

Dipsy but for drag queens who want to hear about closeted rappers. Well, you know, DL men were my thing for years. Like before – i believe it oh girl from like 14 until i was like 28 i was with dl men only right like dl dudes what did you like about it um i just thought they were like hot and i i don't know a lot i was it's sometimes in drag sometimes out and that is a lot lot of times what happened because I used to work at Hardware Bar on 10th Avenue, 48th Street in New York. And there was Fairytale Lounge around the corner, which was a T-Girl bar. Right.

So a lot of times you would get the overflow from dudes that couldn't find success there. Not the overflow. Not truly the second string. I didn't care. I didn't have luck at the T-Girl bar. Fairy, what is it? Fairytale Lounge. Fairytale Lounge.

So I'm going to saunter around down to industry. What the fuck you just said? Hardware. Hardware. Literally hardware. And go talk to Miss Money Exchange in her goddamn bus driver wig and say, what's up, girl? Girl, you know me. So I would do my show Saturday, and I would do my one-on-one show myself for two hours.

You've seen me after a sweaty show, a sweaty, disgusting, molten drag queen, right? It looks like, you know, when cookies just start to bake in the oven and on the surface,

they look wet. Do you know what I mean? Where the whole surface looks glazed. And then when it's done cooking, it looks right. But for that moment, girl, you were giving easy bake oven.

That is the most accurate description of new york bars to 500 degrees and there's you the walls are wet because it's so there's so much condensation it's so wet inside the wall they give you a drink and by the time you get your table the ice is melted okay yeah 100 so as a rankings like that they would come over and i would you know finish my show and when you know mingle in the bar because you got to do it so you get your paycheck until you get your paycheck and that would they would come over and I would, you know, finish my show. I would, you know, mingle in the bar because you got to do it until you get your paycheck, until you get your paycheck. And I would get one's eye and like almost every Saturday. And then, you know, I'm in drag.

So I'm not, I get in my car, drive up to my house together. And then, and then now I have all my knees sucking this guy's dick, right? Because I'm not bottoming. Because then I have to, if I'm going to bottom, I'm going to have to go in the shower, take off all my drag, douche. Like, I'm not leaving you alone in my place for that amount of time. Absolutely not. So this one particular time, I'm like on my knees blowing this guy, like going in on the dick, right? But I, if y'all don't know, under this wig, I'm a balding man.

I'm not bald. I'm balding. Like, bitch, Fred Sanford, you know what I mean? So. Pangea. It's the continents kind of shaped out on the head. Like, they haven't broken apart yet, but it's coming. And I didn't shave my head that day, but I had this long bang piece wig on, and I'm sucking the dick, and my apartment is hot.

It is sweaty. I am dripping. I am just water everywhere, And I feel the wig sliding. And I'm like, oh, fuck, fuck, fuck. I don't want to do this. Because I am in the zone. I am going ham. The ejaculation is around the corner.

If I just stay steadfast and work hard at this, it's going to happen. You trained for this. Girl, I trained for this. I'm working. And I am sweating. I am sweating. And I feel the wig slipping down. And the wig slips off.

And there's a balding man sucking this man's dick and i just look up at him and he just goes keep going and then so i just continue my wig is on the floor just a wet sweaty mess and he finally comes and then he goes home and it was that would be my routine and that's how you met bob that's so beautiful oh god so the deal man i mean i don't want to tell my business i would never do that but i've been with i would say as many straight guys as gay guys really and they it is more transactional and they do know exactly what they want yes and they come in so repressed they're like shaking with a cement hard-on they're like ready to come oh yeah oh sometimes before you you can barely touch a dick and they are they are yes and in some ways i know this is

like i'm not a trans woman so i don't have the same experience but like for gay guys to a straight guy in some ways i'm like they're more respectful to me than gay guys are oh i you know what i mean yes i agree with that 1000 there's something about about that history, but I think that like, that is like a lot of like my own internalized shit and, or my new album I have coming. I have my first R and B full album coming out. Trickster Lynn. Congratulations. Thank you.

The first single body is out now. Wow. It's about downloading different bodies. Cause I mean, what, what would you say your, your, if you had to guess your number,

what would you say your number is? My phone number, my social security number. Oh tempur-pedic number no what are you talking about the amount of bodies that you've had like if you had to take a wild guess am I a Nicky fan like how many bodies have you had the limit does not exist

really girl 3.14159 like the pie I don't know I mean I At least a hundred is that horrible Is that horrible A hundred is that a lot Girl I am

Easily close to four digits Oh okay Over my lifetime yeah I mean Especially God I mean a lot A lot I don't know I don't know, God, I mean, a lot. A lot. I don't know. I don't know.

Yeah. I wish there was like a 23andMe for that. Because I would like to know. I wish somebody had been keeping track. Auntie, just cut me in half and just count the rings. I feel like we'll know like exactly how many I've had, you know? No, okay. Maybe I'm being a little exaggerated.

I'm probably close to 500, I would say. Like, honestly. Pounds. Let's take another break. Hold on. I need to fix my wig. It's pulling I would say. Like, honestly. Pounds. Let's take another break. Hold on. I need to fix my wig. It's pulling my hair out. Hold, please.

Oh, God. I'm back. Sorry. I don't want a wig cap before. Girl, I just started because I'm trying to protect my bald head. Sometimes these big stacked wigs, like the pins and shit, do not agree with me. Well, do you know this? I've seen this thing about, have you seen this?

Because I've got my whole body lasered from my neck down. you did yeah full body how long how many sessions is that i've done probably about 12 sessions overall and now i just go back for like once or twice a year for maintenance shut up so you don't grow body hair no i don't grow body hair naturally work jealous literally i don't even shave my arms this is it bitch your arm is hairy what are you talking about but like fine and visible no it's not that is big and long are you out of your fucking mind i'm gonna kill you tricksy fucking lying bitch you said this bitch came on here i could braid that hair no bitch i don't think you could i'm talented girl i could braid that can you

braid yeah you can of course i'm i don't know That was a little microaggressive. No, I'm not assuming everyone. I'm not assuming everyone got the braid hair. I can see the clogs turning, honey. Oh my God. You asked the question, but you knew the answer. That's how I felt in my heart. Because I was hoping you could do a few box braid wigs for me to wear. And I think that that would be okay, right?

Girl, I did a project recently where they pitched hairstyles to me for something. No, do not. I'm not kidding. One of the styles they pitched was truly like braids tight to the head. And we had to be like, so here's why that's not a great idea. Here's why I'm not going to be indulging in that hair fantasy today. I cannot. Trixie.

Girl, I mean, do they ever just come up to you and say, we think you should wear a big 60s blonde wig? Are you like, no, thank you. No. I've never been propositioned for a big 60s blonde wig. Okay. Not even Bunny? When you did the pod with Bunny, Ebony and Irony?

No. What was it like doing a podcast with that person? Girl, the podcast. Who's crazier, Bunny or Bob? Honestly, I don't even have an answer to that i am kind of because starting off ebony and irony it was so fun and it was amazing and i love bunny and bunny was so fun to work with but as politics got crazier she got crazier and i just had to step it just it just wasn't funny anymore because Bunny just gets so wild and people started

associating me with Bunny's viewpoints on politics and I'm like no that's her thing which is fine she can think whatever she wants

but that's not my thoughts and opinions and it was just like there is this because the podcast is still out there this is an episode she does

because I was out of town with our producer Jay and it is him just screaming at her for two hours it's honestly so good everyone should go listen to it what is he screaming about about politics because he's like he's like he's really like smart and he's really like you know a little bunny bunny is so far left she's a little bit on the right side again well it's almost like libertarians where they it's so

far freedom that it almost comes back around. You're like, wait, what? And sometimes she has very valid points. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I can see how that makes sense. Right. But then she'll like put another thing in at the end of it. You're like, okay, I was there. Then you like drove me back the other way, girl.

Like what? You know? You're like you had to keep going. You just had to keep going. You know, I'm sure you feel the same way, but I'm never like afraid of hearing what somebody with really different point of view has to say. I'm never like, nope, shut up. I'm not listening. I'm always like, okay, this sounds crazy.

Tell me more. Yeah, I agree. I'm the same way. I'm not afraid of hearing people's point of view and being like, I don't agree, but thank you for telling me. Bye. I'm the same way too. That's how I feel about religious people too. I'm like, I'm not, I'm not fuck your religion.

Yeah. I'll hear about it. Are you atheist or agnostic? Like, do you think there's something out there? I'm just like hot. It's like, just like, are you, this is, this is from fucking West Elm. All right, bitch. Bitch, this is like key at best.

This is West Elm. No, I'm, I'm not anything. I, I'm, Can I tell you something? Tell me. I sometimes think that the idea that we're all in some waiting room for something better is very disrespectful to the absolute gift that is being alive right now. Like purgatory, you mean? No, like we're all here. And then if we're good enough, something really good happens later.

Yeah. I feel like that doesn't put enough value on the gift of literally being alive right now. I can see that. Well, when all this is over, something great's going to happen. I'm like, what if this is the great thing that's happening? And you're just fucking sitting here thinking something better's going to happen. Yeah.

I grew up very Christian, very religious. And then when I got on my own, I hate organized religion i think organized religion is literally the devil it's fucking bullshit you prefer disorganized religious a church where people are screaming and throwing shit around that's what i want but i think it would be so crazy to think that i am the most powerful being on the like i feel like there is something out there that could help create this thing but i don't know what it is

i just give that thing respect i'm like work do your thing but I don't know what it is. I just give that thing respect. I'm like, work, do your thing. But I don't think it's this crazy religion that they've literally made up. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think so. Do you have a hard time? What is your, this is kind of a deep one, but I have to ask you real questions

because Cardi would never talk about this shit with me. Yeah. She starts singing bongos. Oh my God, you and Kata should recreate the Megan Thee Stallion and Cardi B Bongo's video in the looks Oh I'm sure we would look just as good And it would be amazing and everyone would love it Everyone would love it

I have a new Megan Thee Stallion remix Coming out because I remixed her And I love that song Love that song I used to play my little DJ set I love that song and it didn't get a lot of play The queer community did not support it as much. And I love that.

They're going to support the one I'm putting. Cause I think the song itself is great. The rap is great, but I think it needed like a fatter, nastier, gayer. Anyway, I love your,

your deep question. I don't want to get away from it. Oh, do you have a difficult time? So that, um, separating the artist from the art. I do. I really do. Like I was, I love Nicki Minaj. That's just a really good example. But like when like the whole thing

with like her and like Megan happened and like, Oh, I didn't even think about it. Sorry. I wasn't trying to lead you to that. I really was just generally asking. Well, yeah, I have a hard time because I fucking love Nicki Minaj I mean I can still listen I guess I guess I don't because I can still listen to her music and not like associated with all this like crazy things she's saying and doing sure I guess I guess I can't but some people it's really like

R. Kelly I can't like I fucking grew up on R. Kelly he was at all the fucking barbecues we had and all the things we would have but he was there yeah and how old were you about 13 13 that makes a lot of sense yeah that's horrible that's horrible but like you guys believe the kind of humor that she's bringing onto the pod kachi and i would never talk like this we would never joke about this but i could not like in good faith, like still stream his music after all the crazy shit.

I'm like deleterious behavior. He's committed. It's hard. It's hard. I feel the same way. Sometimes I'm like, Oh, I like the thing.

I'm like recently I was watching old, old, old Roseanne. Ooh. And old Roseanne in the nineties, obviously it was like so progressive. I remember being a kid and being like a poor family, uh,

you know, plus size mom. Yeah. They talk about things like having no money, gay people. I was like, this is like a progressive show and it's odd now to experience it. Like,

well, can I still like what it was now that I don't agree with the lens of the creator? You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, I didn't grow up on Roseanne, so I don't know.

I ain't watched that shit. What did you watch when you were a kid? Family matters. I watched that. Why are you saying that? Like, like I did it. You about to hurt. I didn't say I ain't watched that shit what did you watch when you were a kid? Family Matters I watched that why are you saying that like I did it you about to hear that I didn't say it anyway I said it normally did you know that the character of Urkel was supposed to be like a guest star

really and he took off and it was just like such a hit that they were like alright you're in the show now wow I read that on the internet it could be a lie yeah girl is this a fucking sample fact girl you're the one who prank called me earlier and i have to say you were so sweet and so supportive she's a good person so i did this thing for l where i prank call friends and i called i was like yeah um girl this is the craziest thing that has ever happened to me i haven't even told bobby i'm not calling you because

i really respect you and country music and i was like i have to like beyonce is doing a texas hold'em remix and they want a queer lens and they asked me to be on it she's like monet shut the fuck up that's amazing girl and i was like okay i did a little snippet of the verse can i can i sing it for you yeah yeah sure well no first she goes i want because you you know like country and i said well you know what girl no one owns country and you just got to make it yours you've got this girl i was like so actually almost out of character helpful and then this bitch started singing about her scrotum her actual scrotum i was like this ain't texas i got a scrotum it's hanging down down down down i was filming my youtube video on the call on the speakerphone.

So I have video of the whole thing. Oh, yes. I love that. And I'm like, okay, did you say scrotum? And then I'm like, you know what, girl? It's a big swing to start singing about scrotum. And then I was like, you know what, girl? I have my guitar here.

Why don't you come here and we'll work on it? You did. I thought that was so helpful. then she goes i'm fucking with you it was so nice you are such as you are such a sweet lady i was i was i was literally in the thing i was making i was like you were so it was very sweet well i would never do that to you i would never prank call anyone i was on crank anchors i did prank call a bunch of people oh my god did you it was so difficult one of the hardest jobs I've ever had. Really?

Calling people is hard, but you know what, girl, you're fucked up. I am fucked up. You know, I was thinking of you cause you love survivor. I love survivor.

Do you not for the traders? It's so good. You're not for it. Oh, I love it. I live for it. You would, you would be great at it because I think no T you're a lovely person.

I think you would be good at lying. I would be, I would be good at lying. I would be. You'd be a good traitor. I would be a great traitor. I don't think you would slip up once. But the traitors though, I'm watching UK traitors. Bitch, they are going through it. They are crying.

They're like, this is the hardest thing. Like they look like they are having a horrible time doing the show. I don't think it looks easy. Yeah, it looks hard. It does look very hard. David's been watching it and he's like, you should do it. I'm like, I don't have the constitution to on camera in front of a group of 12 straight celebrities, all straight people,

because you know if you and I would be cast, we would be the gay person. Oh yeah, for sure. All random straight people. Yeah. Most famous drag queens in the world. And then like someone who went home first on Top Chef eight years ago. Like literally. Once the heat was on me and they'd be like, are you a traitor? I'd be like, no, like i would not

be able to handle it i didn't even like that shit on all stars of like the lipsticks oh the lipstick thing i don't like secrets i don't like yeah i mean again i say that now but again this is like bad bitch i'm like i'm a i can do it i'm a bad bitch but i feel like in practice i really am a softie like bob was this all the time i really boast up like i'm a bitch kid but when it comes to the thing i get i'm very soft and pink inside. I really am. I think Bob would be good at it because Bob in some ways

is a sociopath. You know what I mean? When it comes to entertainment, Bob would lie to a room full of people very well. Yes. When it comes to the game, I think Bob would be like,

yeah, it's the game. I'll do it. Have you ever played Secret Hitler? I played not so Secret Hitler. Like what kind of question is that? It's a game. It's a board game. And so you're either a fascist or you're a liberal.

And if there are ten people playing, there are six fascists. There are four – there are three – sorry. There are six liberals, three fascists, and one Secret Hitler. The fascists know who Secret Hitler is, but Secret Hitler doesn't know who the other fascists are. And then the goal of the game is that you get like, you get to pass, you have to pass policies. And the liberals win when they pass five liberal policies,

the fascists pass when they pass six fascist policies. It's, it's a, it's a crazy game. I played a game night. It's wild. And so you left Ebony and irony cause it got too political. And then you went on

to play political board games yeah it was good would you ever run for office you know i think me no no no you thought about it for a second i did and i immediately thought that was that is a business woman you're like you know what if there's money and it's not too hard it's good air conditioning i might fuck with it i bet you those government buildings have good air conditioning oh they do like they're very brutus too so i love that yeah yeah i just i would be a horrible a horrible politician the fucking dirt they will dig up on me like in me and like some there's this video peppermint talking about on our podcast we had as a guest like a few months ago there's a video of her uh from back in the day at the old pyramid uh nightclub in new york city there is a security

video of her doing less than uh uh being a girl not miss america exactly not miss america behavior and she was like, girl, if that's the first about me, like it would be crazy. Like it would be a wrap. So like I'm sure there's a video. There's a video of me doing something somewhere

that would surface if I did public politics. It also depends who you run with. Like if you haven't stuck cock at a bar, I don't even trust you. I never stuck cock at a bar. You take them home.

Yeah. This is before Uber. It's not like you give them a free ride. You let them sleep over. You clean up a little bit. You cannot sleep over. You cannot sleep over. I don This is before Uber. It's not like you give him a free ride. You let him sleep over. You clean up a little bit. You cannot sleep over. You cannot sleep over.

I don't do sleepovers. Do you? When you have been a woman in the world? I mean, with David, yeah, from time to time. Because he sleeps across the bed from me. He moved in last month, girl. No, I like sleeping over. Before we moved in together,

I liked like a four nights with him, three nights alone ratio. Like there is nothing like a bed to yourself and like, Oh yeah, for sure. Well, they also have all these like rich celebrities that talk about like this, these like ideal situations where they're together,

but they have separate apartments. And I'm like, that kind of sounds fierce. Well, David used to live mile and a half, two miles down the road. And so it was like 11 minutes in a car to see him. And it like it didn't feel far away yeah it was close bye and then we also have like um we have a guest house and stuff so like if one of us really wants to be alone

there's space to be alone which is a luxury like people in covid with their boyfriend in a studio apartment bless bless tina aguilera couldn't be me could it be t Aguilera The way it would have been a double murder Murder suicide Yeah double homicide for sure I was here alone for a lot of COVID And it was like COVID was horrible However

Some of the alone time I found very Like artistically Like culturally Spiritually Nice I disagree The first two months of COVID were everything Then March and April

I don't think I'm allowed to say that But I think maybe you can say it Well I mean yeah I'll say it I mean obviously not including the death and everything Of course that all sucked The managers calling and saying your whole calendar For the year has been wiped I said you better fuck me

Somebody better get down here and fuck me Get in this pussy It was so fucking fierce Girl me drinking a box of wine playing the Sims 48 hours a day like waking up at 1 p.m the first two months were everything watching the sunrise every morning drunk like it was great i lived it was some of the and it was some of the happiest times of my life like that's horrible it is horrible yeah it was great. I love it. Except for that first fucking digital drag show I did.

That can go all the way to hell. Mary, digital drag. We're going to look back at digital drag like in Jurassic Park when they're unearthing bones. Y'all want to blame too. No. When they're unearthing bones in Jurassic Park, that's how we're going to look back. We're going to look back at like Pinché lip syncing in her living room on a webcam, on a MacBook webcam and be like, what? It was terrible, girl.

Like Ganja doing the splits in her backyard. Girl. While like Anne Pine watches. Like digital drag was fucking crazy. Well, at least y'all were in LA, so y'all had backyards and sunshine. I was in New York City. My entire apartment was this big. And I'm in my hallway in a two by two foot

hallway like, girl. Like it was horrible. Though that's probably why you started wearing Pussycat wigs because you're like, where in this apartment would I put a triple stack Chris March wig? Oh my God, Chris March. Rip. Yeah. Did he die? Yeah.

Oh. What an inspiration. Those wigs were unbelievable. Amazing. Yeah, he was on he was on um he was on a project runway that's how he got like fame i remember seeing him on like a feast of fun episode where he showed how to triple stack way it's literally where i learned to stack wigs was a critch mark video i always forget that you're so like you have so many drag disciplines so you can sew you can you can do obviously your makeup and you do hair like you can do yeah i used to do all my own wigs yeah work I like that part of it

she's so fierce as I sit here in a wig someone else made and I'm pretty sure this is actually ASOS I am the queen of casual drag no one needs to know that you look great well it is for some outfits a lot of these cheap fashion outfits they look great on drag queens but then on people you'd be like that looks so cheap yeah on drag queens

the cheap factor is sort of like oh that's kind of fun oh yeah isn't my pussy just out has this been out the whole time i should use a little brown pencil and little pink pencil and just paint on lips if i'm gonna leave my head my fucking legs open oh my god i will kind of be everything though can i draw it on you for you well what about like jimbo wearing the full like pussy suit like like silence of the lambs like jimbo is buffalo bill also i wouldn't be much fun help i i literally couldn't tell you how to draw a vagina i've never i've never and i i would so you hate women. I would just, my, I just don't think I would know what to do successfully. And everyone would have a bad time if I was with a vagina.

All that time with straight guys? Well, I guess straight guys don't know what fucking vaginas look like either. Exactly, girl. They don't know how to please a woman. I think when straight guys go to eat pussy, they literally yank it open, shove a tongue up the urethra and go like, does this feel good? Wait, there's a urethra there. There's a lot of going on there. It's a lot of ups and downs,

drainage, plumage, electricity. It's drywall. I don't know. There's something major and something minor. That's all I know. All right.

Um, so I, I hate to say, Oh, because the word underrated makes it seem like people don't get their flowers I think that you make Probably some of the best music That's ever come out of drag queens

Thank you Trixie Lynn Your music is fucking great Thank you I appreciate that I was DJing a Christmas party for Netflix And you were there And I think I played Beyonce And I knew I think every word And you were like oh I'm not even sure about these words

And I'm like I fucking am every word. You did. Oh, I'm not even sure about these words. And I'm like, I fucking am, bitch. I play that song all the time. Thank you. Fans who know it immediately sing it. And people who don't know it, I'm not kidding. The Shazam goes up in the air. You know, it's one of my top Shazam songs. It's a slay.

Yeah. People love it. I really do enjoy music. And, you know, there is this world where I feel like one day all of us drag queens will make fierce music, especially you, like Barbara. And I feel like, like, when do you think we'll ever get it? Like even I would even settle for a drag music category at the Grammys. Or just put us in regular fucking categories. I don't know if you feel like this, but if we're really being just us girls, I recently have been taking a break from music

because I feel the glass ceiling so fiercely. I feel so like, I think I've just gotten to do everything I'm going to get to do because we're only ever taken seriously about one month a year. Yeah. And it's just like,

it kind of takes the wind out of yourselves. You're like, I want to make music, but if I don't have this wig on, no one will pay attention. But because I have this wig on, no one will take it seriously so then what then like what is the end i know that i it feels it's very annoying and it's like like why you off i often feel like why am i even doing this why am i even putting all this time effort money everyone's fucking patience into this thing money we're independent artists do people realize how much a cheap music video is

like thirty thousand dollars easily and that's when the directors are like well we're not gonna have food on set exactly and you won't have a ride and there's no air conditioning and mind you we're an industry where we already do our own hair and makeup and shit so it's like a music videos cost so much and what but if you don't budget but then there's so much there's such a machine right well you have to the music the music video so it gets more press you can talk about this thing and a music video

will lead to it's like one thing does lead to another but it's like bitch we're independent artists so I have to

self fund all of this right all of that there's no label behind me pumping all this money into this single

into this project making it like whatever you just have to well even if there was I mean I know artists who are signed

and I know about their deals and it's like the record label can collect 80% of what they make including touring and merch that touring merch too so like the labels will be like monet we want to sign you we're gonna give you a three million dollar upfront bonus and you're like oh my god that's more money than i could ever imagine yeah a million dollars even and you go oh my god i could buy a house crazy and then they go that's an advance

monet the libical offer you ten dollars michelle be more money you ever fucking see a day in your life bitch no they'd be like here's two three million dollars and then they're like um but it's an advance which means it goes against five album sales yeah so either you make us that much money or at a certain point you owe us an extra album because you didn't make good on that amount. And in the meantime, we're going to pay for your record. We're going to pay for the cost, the art, the tour. We're going to pay your musicians. We're going to collect 80% of the profit.

How is this legal? Well, did you ever read Michelle's book, The Deeper Rolls? No. She talks about being in seduction. And I mean, that was an era where for young pop girls, the music contract she was signed into was, and this is like open news. I'm not like spilling it. It was so predatory that she toured with seduction for two years.

And I think in the book she said maybe she made $1,000 a month. And she said by the end of seduction, I almost borderline owed money. That's crazy. Yeah crazy Because these deals were like Well do you want to be a star or not We're going to take 90% of the money But you get to tour the world Do you want to live your dreams

Or we can walk and sign those girls over there And so it is like fuck Yeah that's so fucked girl How do you start making a song Go to the studio And we'll listen to like a bunch of tracks Yeah, that's so fucked, girl. Yeah. How do you start making a song? Go to the studio and we'll listen to like a bunch of track that the engineer has. I mean, that the producer has. Like beats and riffs and shit?

Yeah. And I'm like, ooh, I like that one. And then so when I land on one, like Body, for instance, like we heard Body. And I was like, ooh, I really like this. I really like this. And me and my writing partners, like literally this three of us, we, we each take a pass in the booth. We're just giving,

just doing melodies. We look, the track is playing and just to get melody, like just doing different melodies that we hear. Then we hear all the melodies back and we choose which ones that we like that go together. Wow. And then right to that.

It's like real time, like making it in real time stacking it like what about this what about this exactly yeah that's wild that must be exhilarating it is it's really fun and that's the problem i really fucking like making music but it's like so that's why i just come to peace i'm like i really like doing this thing and i want to put it out into the world and my expectation is that no one will hear it so that if a hundred percent a thousand people do, that's more than I anticipated. You know what I mean? And my expectation is that I will be in the hole for this video.

Yeah. Every time. Otherwise, you will sit home and go, well, isn't it going to make its money back? And then you're like mad. And just mad about it. It's just like, just whatever. Have you and Bob ever done a track?

No, we never have. Because you hate her. Yeah, I fucking hate that bitch. No, we never have. I would though. You and I, we never have. I would, though. You and I, we talked about doing something together a long time ago. Yeah, I mean, I love your music. It's so fucking great.

We should do something together. I forget, you were doing covers or something. Yeah, I do a lot of covers. One of my dreams is to do, I told Bob, I was like, I want to do like Little Mama and Avril Lavigne, Girlfriend. They have a song together? Don't you remember the remix of Girlfriend with Little Mama? Girlfriend by who?

NSYNC? Girlfriend by Avril Lavigne. No. Hey, hey, you, you. Oh. And it's like Little Mama and Avril Lavigne. I did not know this. And I was like, oh, well, if I remix Hello, Hello, Bob, will you like rap over it?

And we'll basically do Girlfriend. Yeah. We never got around to doing it because now she tours Madonna. Oh, my God. Do you feel bad that she left you in the dust for Madonna? You know the real tea. Now I can spill the tea now that we are here. We're here.

We're here. So we did our first particular similar ivory tour in the fall of 22. And then we're going to do the second leg in the spring of 23. Bob gets a Madonna gig. So we cancel our tour because it was going to be during the Madonna rehearsals. Right.

So the reason why that tour got canceled, y'all all, uh, 20, 30, whatever it was, it was because of the, it was,

it was because of Madonna. Right. So she ruined my life on Murray and Peter for that tour. And then she ruined my life for Bob. She ruined your life with Murray and Peter for that tour and then she ruined my life for with Bob she ruined your life with Murray and Peter remember well that was Madonna yeah when I I left I dipped out of Murray and Peter to go be because they're like Madonna really wants you to be in her music video she wants you to make a cameo I was like Madonna's calling me I have to have to show up bitch I get there someone tagged me in it recently they were like if anyone's wondering here's a point 25 seconds monet was monet exchange was on um in madonna's video

and it's literally a shot of me going like you better work hoe and we're on set for 20 hours i can't take it on set i will i would never be in someone's music video i have no desire to ever be in anyone's music video unless there's a treatment that is like, or like a BFF. Yeah. If Orbelle or like even other drag Queens, I'm like, girl,

I can't get up for you. I'm sorry. Like, and again, just because I'm a, she's my fucking, I don't fucking love her. I would,

it says, ask me to be in a video. Like I would play any role in this as a video. You're like, girl, I'll do catering. I'm just happy to be fucking called. You know,

I'll sweep up the confetti after girl. I'm just happy to would do but i have no interest there's another i'm not gonna say the artist name those are the artists who put out something last year and they asked me to come to i was on a tour in australia they were like well he really wants you in the video so can you like leave the tour and come and do being this video. I had to pay for my own flight. Honey. Pay for my own hotel. Honey. What the fuck?

I'm like, no, I'm not leaving my tour for this shit. I don't think people realize how often we get asked to do shit for big, fancy signed artists. Hello. Major television shows. Yes. We'll be like, well, it's a great opportunity. No. For who, bitch?

For you. Not for me. I'm not doing that shit for who use my sky miles that i used to fly my mother my hard-earned sky my sky i only have 187 000 of those oh my god let me say something i am a fucking sky miles hoarder i am i don't know what i'm saving up for but it will be fierce I'm saving up to buy a plane with my goddamn SkyMiles bitch girl me and Brandon at the SkyClub making take home lunches girl same girl me too 100% they got those little

they got plates the size this big at the SkyLounge and I said well y'all don't fucking know about me because I used to be a server I got the arms loaded up with plates you can't control me I got a trash can lid i'm putting fucking all the food on there girl because me and patty we fucking obviously love this guy because we were we it was our first i don't know what reason we're flying out of new

work never flew in out of newark but baby the renovation at the newark airport the delta terminal is everything and that sky SkyMiles has real bacon. Not the shitty Dunkin' Donuts bacon, the little fake bacon. Real thick apple, maplewood, thick bacon. And when I tell you, because I go in first and I go and get my breakfast, I'm like, I drop my plate on the floor. I was like, Patty, they have real bacon. And Patty runs from. he's going to get it. Patty's sprinting.

He's sprinting from getting his breakfast somewhere else. He's like, oh my God, shut up. Four feet tall, sprinting. Girl, so if you ever go to Newark, I don't know why you would, but the Delta there has real fucking bacon. It's so good. You know, one of my dream gigs is to DJ at the Sky Club. Which one? LAX.

LAX. Yeah, for Pride? Honey, of course. Oh, that's good. That's good. Play like Short Dick Man while people are just trying to read the New York Times.

Like, girl, yes. I fucking love the Sky Club. The macaroni and cheese? It's good. Good. Well, I love when they have Taco Day at the LAX one. That one is very good.

Yes. They have that whole taco bar. They now have that outdoor area too. The outdoor area is so cute. You can have a nice little glass of shibbily or something down there. It's nice. Sh have that whole taco bar. They now have that outdoor area too. The outdoor area is so cute. You can have a nice little glass of Shibley or something down there. It's nice. Shibley? Yeah.

Lady Shibley. Or it's a drink. She named that for a beverage. Shibley? Yeah, Shibley. Shibley? Shibley is a drink. I feel like RuPaul,

you know how she can, did you ever listen to What's the Tea? Yeah, of course. You know how she'd be like, say it again, say it again. What is it? Now spell it. And the guy's like, my name is Steven. Steven, Steven,. You'd actually be like, what? Say it again. Say it again. What is it? Now spell it. And the guy's like,

my name is Steven. Steven, Steven, Steven. She'd be like, how do you spell that? Okay. Steven.

And who would play him? Okay. Steven, Steven, Steven. You know, I had an auntie named Steven. And you're like,

that's the whole thing about Steven. My favorite one since the episode is when Bob is on there. And then, um, Bob's the thing about, uh, kimchi. And it Bob's thinking about Kim Chi. And RuPaul's like, Kim, Kim, Kim Chi. Tell me more.

Tell me more. It's Kim Chi. What show is she on? That's so cunty. She was on my season. Kim Chi. I don't know her. But go on.

Tell me. Love. That's so funny. Wait, do you remember when Ruupaul forgot jinx's name oh girl seattle that seattle do you might do you remember that scene did you see fucking did you see that fucking movie um wait where's the movie with the the big monster in the basement with the titties yeah oh yes i love the barbarian when she's putting her tit and she's like yeah that's me suckling off that video of RuPaul going, yes, we're happy to be here with, what's your name?

And she goes, Jinx. And she says it like, the thing is, I've been Jinx in that moment. We've all been Jinx in that moment. We all have, girl. So that level of like, are you kidding? This is happening right now. What can I tell you?

This was at the premiere of All Star 7. So when that moment happened, I pulled out my phone and I was like, oh my kidding? This is happening right now. What can I tell you? This was at the premiere of All-Star 7. So when that moment happened, I pulled out my phone. I was like, oh my God, Patty, I won. I was like, oh my God, I won. It's so sickening. You know what though? I get it. Oh, Bob and I did a review podcast.

Remembering people's names. I can't remember girls. Pit stop. Sometimes I'm like, oh, season seven. I'm not kidding. It took me two weeks to learn everyone's names. I can't remember girls. Pit stop. Sometimes I'm like, Oh, season seven. I'm not kidding. It took me two weeks to learn everyone's name.

Girl, I was filming. We had Katya, Kasha, Sasha. I was like, all of y'all need to get more interesting or change your fucking names. Like I could not remember anybody's fucking name.

Yeah. Yeah. I doing the review podcast. I can't remember. And like RuPaul is, she's, she's an older woman. It's bitch. If I can't remember these like rupaul is she's an older woman it's bitch if i can't remember these bitches that on the same thing like how the fuck does he know

there's he doesn't have to deal with all of them across different uh fucking multiverses yes you know like it's give the man a break i know like whatever shit i meant to order my magnolias cake while we started the podcast so by the time we finish it'll be delivered i'm so fucking pissed off i just do you get that banana pudding no i like theolias cake while we started the podcast. So by the time we finish, it'll be delivered. I'm so fucking pissed off. Do you get that banana pudding? No, I like the confetti cake. Because here's the thing, the confetti cake, they use a different, they use a vanilla essence in the batter. So the cake is softer for the vanilla in the confetti versus the regular vanilla slice. David gets that banana pudding and loves it.

I don't like banana. They're like wafers. You don't like banana? I don't like banana flavored shit. I don't like actual banana. I don't like banana. They're like wafers. You don't like banana? I don't like banana flavored shit. I don't like actual banana. I don't like banana flavored fucking Starburst. I don't like banana flavored runts. Banana.

Banana flavored runts. I don't like banana flavored shit. But just real bananas. Yeah. All right. Or as we say in the Bronx, platanos. Platanos? What did you say?

Platanos. Platanos. Yeah. That's a banana. Yeah. Love a banana Yeah Love Yeah Love You are of West Indian descent?

Haitian? No, I'm St. Lucian Oh I think I saw you once Didn't you go to a fundraiser? Oh, yes And it was for Haiti Yes, for Haiti

And that is why I assumed At TomTom Yes, yes, yes And that is why I assumed. Yes. Yes. Yes. And that guy, the really hot one, the owner or manager,

whatever he is. Yes. So beautiful. Richardson. Richardson. Yes. Y'all have friends. Yeah.

Work. Small world. Yeah. Are y'all friends from back in Milwaukee or just here? No, I know him from just through Vanderpump. Work, work,

work, work, work, work. Yeah. I don't do Vanderpump. So where can the children see? Are you going on tour?

Children's theater. Yeah. When are you going topump so where can the children see are you going on tour children's theater yeah when are you going to do children when can the children see you when can the children see you oh they can see me on my tour for life be life and it is all across america starting april 30th ending march i mean may 19th and it's on my one-on-one show if you are happen to be in town when i come to la i would love for you to see it i have to can i tell you i can would love for you to see it. I have to. Can I tell you, I can't believe that you can see the fucking Love Ball. Oh my God. Love Ball was so fun.

It was so fun. It was so fun. I was like, this is fucking cunty. And I didn't realize you guys were going to go so hard. I saw a video of all those numbers. I was like, this is like a high production show.

Girl, it was, it was, I did like five numbers in that show, which at the end of those days, I was exhausted. I said, I need a week off. Girl, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was it was i was i did like five numbers in that show which at the end at the end of those dates i was exhausted i said i need a week off girl it was it was it was it was it was a fun show it was obviously the good old tricksy and katya level effort you know you kind of show up sometimes and sit and talk and leave you guys were like girl the touring podcast okay for me and

bob's first tour we're like we're hiring the house of juicy couture we're getting costume changes we're doing all these things we're gonna give give give no and again when you're hiring all this stuff y'all when you hire all this stuff you have to pay for all these things and it makes the production cost of your tour really expensive now and again that was great too but being able to show up and do the thing that we do twice a week that people want, which is us talking about a thing to a room full of people. Yes. I feel like for the live pods, the highest priority is like, do I feel like I look great? Yeah.

And I don't know if you do this, but I basically hide a document of things I'm going to talk to her about. I keep things that I'm going to bring up on stage because I want it to be organic. You know. I do that. I have a Sibling Rivalry note in my phone and I see something online. I'm like, Ooh, put a note for that.

I love doing the live pod. I love doing live, but it's so fun, especially to see all the people who obviously listen every week and they're, they're so invested in the pod and in all the catchphrases that you guys say on it. And that energy, I fucking love that energy. And I,

not to say that we lost that during the big crazy live show, but you know, it's more of a production, right? This felt more real and just having a real moment with our fans who fucking love us in the podcast. Especially when it's organic. I mean,

it's so corny, but sometimes when we're out there, I just feel like, I'd be like, I feel like I was fucking flying out there. Oh, for sure. Like,

I feel like you're just flying. When you were just stacking jokes with each other and both laughing and the audience is laughing. Yes. And because it's not scripted, you're like, this doesn't happen again tomorrow in a new city. Yes. This is the one time in the moment this is happening. It's euphoric.

It is. It really is. I love it. I feel like I'm on euphoria. Oh my God. Which season three got halted permanently. I'm so upset. I saw a Reductress article that was like, euphoria halted until they ultimately decide not to continue it.

Probably. Which is so sad. I don't know if you watch i love the show i've not seen it i don't feel the need to watch teenagers have sex but good for you when did you lose your virginity when did you start fucking 18 i was 13 i think that's a great place to end I think that's I think that's the other person was also that age it wasn't like an old person we were both the same age oh so it was just double kiddie porn

okay great don't worry everyone fucking was a middle schooler I can't take it anymore I gotta get out of here you guys go support one of the best fucking drag queens

you'll ever see in your life Monet X Change I just I nut for you bitch i love for you girl i talk about you all the time i love you so much i've tried to pull you on so many projects but you're always gone i know and i was so mad when i saw the girls who did it i was like we tried to get you for netflix i know you're always my when what you're always my like who kati is not there i always say you okay i always say you thank you if you got meatballs like fucking meatball because i went to iceland that's why i was in iceland well do you know what happened with the meatball thing and i'll fucking say it because i'm not afraid of

anybody say it i'm not afraid of it meatball was not the one booked either who was it tell us girl i don't want to say who was it okay oh well girl she's booked because i love her yeah i will always show up for her she's she's in my short list of like if i get to pick who i work with i want that fucking unfortunately that fucking horror cancel sometimes got it so it's 8 a.m 7 a.m and that person says hey i just can't do it today they call Meatball at 8 a.m. and they go, Jennifer, the director goes, hi, this is Jennifer from Netflix.

Can you come down and do I Like to Watch? And Meatball's waking up and is like, when? And they're like, now. Meatball wakes up, gets in drag, and is on set by 9.45? No.

I couldn't do that. She got like a lesson to it. She woke up, had to get in drag and come immediately. And she did an amazing job. To be fair, she doesn't shave or anything. She woke up, had to get in drag and come immediately. And she did an amazing job. To be fair, she's hair, like she's hair, she doesn't shave or anything.

She's mostly hair and lashes anyway. Yeah, girl. Yeah. She did, she did the show that I wanted you to be on, but I think you couldn't do either. The new series I have coming out, she did, she was one of the things on there. She was incredible. She's amazing. She was so fun, so funny. But I don't like fucking last minute cancelers. I really don't.

Do you know how many people have ghosted me? Fucking faggots will be like i want to come on your youtube channel and i go great when and i book it with them and then the day will come and they ghost i'll come on youtube channel we have a i would love to do makeup with you you are such a great makeup artist thank you but only on me i cannot paint other people have you ever tried to paint bob i did back in the day when new york and actually bob came on fine but i don't enjoy do you remember when i painted bob girl mcgilla gorilla that shit was wild girl listen compared to her makeup at the time she looks fucking great did you see what she did to me god that video is rotted that picture is rotted girl and bob that's when i learned wow bob's never realized

other people overdraw their lips he painted on a thin black lip with black eyebrows bitch and at that point he had like this many makeup brushes at that point girl girl i gotta get out of here all right thank you. Thank you for having me, girl. Bye.