The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - Pokémon 101 is Now in Session with Trixie and Katya

Episode Date: June 24, 2025

Ninntenndo America, Inc. Announces Two New Pokémon Arriving in 2026!: Trixioohh is a deranged Fairy/Plastic type Pokémon evolved from a cursed eyeliner found in the haunted Ross store on La Brea Av...enue. With moves like Wig Whip, Slander Pulse, and her apocalyptic signature attack Nuclear Eyebrow Gluer, she crushes enemies into submission and leaves behind a sticky residue of THC gummies. Katya Zamoirrra is a Psychic/Trash/Unstable Gas type who doesn’t evolve—she erupts in an explosion of movie references and HVAC manuals. Her moves include Sweat Tsunami and Soviet Psy-Ops, which launches an entire Slavic folklore demon at your opponent. Her body flickers between dimensions like bad reception, and her laughter can cause minor nosebleeds in nearby trainers. Stop putting off those doctors appointments and go to: https://Zocdoc.com/BALD to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today! For a limited time only for our listeners, get 60% off your first order of Smalls PLUS free shipping by going to https://Smalls.com and using our code BALD Make your outdoor space your dream oasis TODAY with Wayfair! Head to https://Wayfair.com right now to shop a huge outdoor selection. Wayfair. Every style. Every home. Work on your financial goals through Chime today! Open an account in 2 minutes at https://Chime.com/BALD Chime.  Feels like progress. This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at ⁠https://BetterHelp.com/BALD⁠ and get on your way to being your best self! Follow Trixie: @TrixieMattel Follow Katya: @Katya_Zamo To watch the podcast on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/TrixieKatyaYT⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out our official YouTube Clips Channel: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/TrixieAndKatyaClipsYT⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you want to support the show, and get all the episodes ad-free go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://thebaldandthebeautiful.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be amazing! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out future Live Podcast Shows, go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://trixieandkatyalive.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To order your copy of our book, "Working Girls", go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://workinggirlsbook.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out the Trixie Motel in Palm Springs, CA: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.trixiemotel.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Listen Anywhere! ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠   Follo​w Trixie: Official Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.trixiemattel.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ ​ TikTok: ⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@trixie⁠⁠ Facebook: ​⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠  Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter (X): ​⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠   Follow Katya: Official Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.welovekatya.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@katya_zamo⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/welovekatya/⁠⁠⁠⁠  Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠  Twitter (X): ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠    About the Podcast: The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya features a pair of grizzled gay ghouls sitting on chairs, holding microphones, and discussing their fabulous lives in Tinseltown. (featuring occasional forays into movies, television shows, and air-conditioning) The New York Times called them models, moguls, actors, influencers, drag queens, RuPaul's Drag Race contestants, and even humanoids. If one thing can be said about these two preternaturally gorgeous queens' podcast, it's that Trixie and Katya find the sheer, unadulterated beauty of pure insanity. Tune in every week to experience the auditory pleasure that is The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya. #TrixieMattel #KatyaZamo #BaldBeautiful Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:44 Our final shows of the year are happening for the Ball and the Beautiful Live. So on October 3rd, it's October 3rd, we're going to be in Calgary at the Southern Jubilee Theater. On October 4th, we're going to be in Winnipeg at Club Regent. And on November 9th, we're going to be in Tucson, Arizona at the Linda Ronstadt Theater. And on November 13th, we're wiggling over to Honolulu at the Blaisdell Center. Tickets available at TrixieAndKati.com. First of all, wait, do you know about Pokemon? Am I the only person on this earth who does not know about Pokemon? I could not name a Pokemon.
Starting point is 00:02:19 I could not identify one. I'm sorry. I could probably name the first 300 in order off the top of my head. You can name more Pokemons than presidents. Let's say that. 100%. And do you... What do you want to know? I don't want to know anything. That's the problem. Like, I feel like...
Starting point is 00:02:37 Is somebody trying to make you know it? No, I was on the pit stop. And I guess, uh, Aja... You guys stop watching Drag Race, you're watching Pokemon? No, no. Aja dressed up as Pokemons, apparently. Dressed up as Pokemon. And that went way over my head. And I was like, and I faced the wrath of the, um, the entire world.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Do people not know that you're... Not into Pokemon? Well, Pokemon came out, I was the perfect age. What? Which, what? 16? Maybe eight? Oh. Nine? When it came out? When I, when I remember. And I was the perfect age. What? Which, what, 16? Maybe eight. Oh. Nine. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:07 When it came out, when I remember. And I was 16 drinking blood. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like why would I know what a Pokemon is? What is it? It is a cartoon, like a franchise. It's a cartoon about a world where there are little monsters
Starting point is 00:03:21 running around with elemental superpowers, psychic. Moral combat? Oh, it's a Pikachu is a mouse that shoots electricity out of its cheeks. Okay. Is there a common enemy? Well, it's sort of the ethics. A lot of the themes are like people using that for evil, people trying to control Pokemon. What would be a good like, it's like this. It's like, um...
Starting point is 00:03:42 Thundercats? No. Think it like... Think of Pokemon more like, they're somewhere between wild animals and people as far as intelligence. Okay. They don't talk. And humans can go, oh, it's a Pikachu. I'm going to catch it, befriend it, and now it's my companion pet that has powers.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Is there... does it ever get slutty or sexy? No. So it's like, oh, what's um? Your car needs a jump my Pikachu's here my Pikachu's gonna shock your car and now it works It's sort of like using these animals with powers The whole point is that Pokemon and humans are trying to coexist. Okay, so there's a lot of but what is this element of going out and? Finding them like okay. So if oh, are you asking about Pokemon Go? I guess so.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Okay, so Pokemon Go is a game that came out maybe in 2016, 17 maybe. And it's on the phone. Yeah, and you're going in the forest. People are going in the forest. Yeah, so it uses a real GPS of the world. And it'll go, oh, wow, the Culver's down the street from my house is a Pokemon gym. So if I walk over there, I can fight,
Starting point is 00:04:51 I can win that beat that Pokemon gym using my Pokemon. Oh my gosh, my friend just texted me and said that there's a Gyarados down the street at the McDonald's. I'm gonna run down the street and try to catch it on my phone. And then I have the Pokemon. And then you, and then what?
Starting point is 00:05:05 It's sort of, I mean, that's it. I don't know what to say. It's fun and people like it. I mean, I guess with Candy Crush, you crush the candy and that's it. Right. It's like, you know, it's... The journey is the destination.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Right. You know, some might say that yoga is like, that's it. You sit and breathe. You know what I mean? That's, I don't think that's it. I don't think that's a good analogy at all. Nothing. No, I'm not, I'm not, it's like, it's like croquet.
Starting point is 00:05:32 It's, it's sort of like social media meets a phone game. It gets you out of the house. It gets you out of the house. It gets you connected with your community. You connect with the community. I played it for a couple years. Okay. Off and on.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I noticed there was a gay, it was kind of like Disney gays, Pokemon gays. Yeah, Pokemon gays. You connect with the community. I played it for a couple years off and on. I noticed there was a gay, it was kind of like Disney gays, Pokemon gays. Yeah, Pokemon gays. There's a lot, like it's like a subset of gays that like, well, no, I think for a lot of us, Nick, did you like Pokemon? A lot of us when we were young,
Starting point is 00:05:57 it was a very like something you, for me it was something that me and like the straight guys could both like. Reaching across the aisle. Reaching across the aisle. Reaching across the aisle. The girls liked it. It was just fun.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Everybody had their favorite Pokemon. I played the Pokemon card game, and sometimes I get high and watch the world championships. People win half a million dollars playing Pokemon cards. So now we're talking. Yeah. So that makes sense to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Like ping pong champions, chess champions. Yeah. Like world's longest finger nails. You know what it's like? I get it. Magic the Gathering. That's where your finger nails. You know what it's like? I get it. Magic the Gathering. That's where your age group. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Or like D and D, but that's totally different. It's like Magic the Gathering. Okay. And it's, so there's the Pokemon Card Game, which is a whole, almost like a sport. It could be on ESPN. Okay. And then there's the TV show,
Starting point is 00:06:37 which has many seasons across different years of a cartoon about it. Got it. And it's anime. Okay. And then there's obviously so much merch. Yes. There's toys, shirts. And it's anime. And then there's obviously so much merch. There's toys, shirts. And it's widely known.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Very, very widely known. Every country, I think in the world, probably fucking knows about Pokemon. Except me. Except you. Damn. It's fun. I mean, you don't have to start now. I'm not gonna.
Starting point is 00:07:00 But the D&D thing, I have flipped the script on that 100%. You like it? Well, I went from- What was your previous script? I thought it was corny, I dismissed it right away. I was like, nope, that's crazy, like wonderful. You love it. I do.
Starting point is 00:07:19 It gets people out of the house. No, it gets them in the house, in the basement. Well, I mean, get together. Get together. And also, shout out to sober people. If you're not getting high, you're not fucking. D&D is all there is. And yes, yoga, D&D, no P&P. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Instead of this. But they had, who the fuck was it? I think it was Jessica from True Blood, that actress. Oh, I know her name. She was explaining how to play, why and the sort of nuts and bolts of Dungeons and Dragons in the most compelling, non corny way. What's her name again?
Starting point is 00:07:53 Debra Ann Wohl. Brandon went to some acting classes with her. She's such a great actress. Love her. She's so beautiful. Love her. She's so cunt. She does a lot of activism for the blind
Starting point is 00:08:02 because her husband's blind. Cunty. Do you think that you would ever do a D&D? Yes! You would. Now that I was like, I got the scoop from Miss Whore, I'm like, absolutely. You know there's a D&D that is ongoing with Bob the Drag Queen and Jujubee and... No, no, no, no. Not with drag queens.
Starting point is 00:08:20 You don't want to play with drag queens. No, I'm playing with regular folks. It seems like a yes-man's creativity. What would your character be like? I think it changes all the time, right? Well... I don't know. I think you do the whole thing, the whole campaign this winter.
Starting point is 00:08:32 I think you kind of stay one character for at least that game. I would have three groups. I would definitely have three groups, because I got multifaceted personality, and I need to express myself. And would you be kind of all out for yourself? Are you kind of partnering? On Monday, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:08:43 It's all about me. Wednesday, I'm like, you know, branching out, selfless, like curious. Friday, it's a wild, like wild card, unpredictable. Gotta get down on Friday. Oh my God. Hands and knees. When I was, guess who was in Mexico as well? Rebecca Black. Rebecca Black.
Starting point is 00:09:00 And she walked up to me and you know, she really, in her glam, you're like, God damn, you are a pop star. She is so gorgeous. So cutesy. It makes you're like, God damn, you are a pop star. She is so gorgeous. So cutesy. It makes you think everybody, so many people could just be pop stars if they had the right glam. Yeah, you ugly bitches at home, get it together.
Starting point is 00:09:12 She's very pretty out of drag, but in her drag, you're like, oh, you're just a pop star. That's right. Wow. She does look like a pop star. And she came up and it was Friday when I saw her because I was at sound check and she said, all right, I'll see you later.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I said, okay. And Rebecca, happy Friday. And she was like. She all right, I'll see you later. I said, okay. And Rebecca happy Friday. She's like, no, she was like, she was like, she kicks you in the ball. Whatever fag. She could have turned around and said, whatever fag, whatever fag. She pukes into a plastic bag and hooked it at you completely. Completely. Did you see that?
Starting point is 00:09:43 Um, Rosie O'Donnell is's gonna be on a just like that? Maybe. There's something about New York City. Rosie O'Donnell said, I'm coming back from Ireland to be in New York City. I'll take Rosie over Che any day. I hope that she feels that. Why can there only be one? Because how many people are gonna fucking finger blast Cynthia Nixon in her kitchen? That is my problem with lesbian programming. There's only over one butch girl at a time. I know. Well, America doesn't have the stomach for it.
Starting point is 00:10:13 America's not ready for all that. All those rough, calloused fingers. Well, did you ever watch? Just dig in into Cynthia's cunt. Did you ever watch the original L Word? You know, I haven't seen it. That was like the United Colors abettaton of lesbianism. There was every type. It was very well represented.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Married women trying to have a baby. There was a woman in transition, like, who discovers in the show she's male. Was it good? The original season? The original show? Made me sob! I loved it! I loved it. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:10:45 I never seen the remake. Okay. Made me a bad lesbian. Well, Queer as Folk did the same thing, right? Is there another Queer as Folk? Are you kidding me? The original American one? I think there was a,
Starting point is 00:10:53 it was first a British one, I believe. No, then it was Canadian. Oh, was it Canadian first? Wasn't it Canada? I think it was British, but the first American one was like, we're gonna teach you gay 101. Like, it was like, oh God.
Starting point is 00:11:06 I always tell people it's like somebody read about being gay on Wikipedia. Yes, yes, which I can't stand from a screenwriting angle. Well, that was my issue with looking. Do you remember? That was way better than Queer as Folk. But this motherfucker, who the main character is played by was his name?
Starting point is 00:11:18 Jonathan Groff. Yes, Jonathan Groff, shout out, come on the pod. Love him. But his character was maybe our age in the show and was like, I don't know if I'm a top or a bottom. I'm like, were you frozen in ice like forever young Mel Gibson? Like, what do you mean you don't know
Starting point is 00:11:31 if you're a top or a bottom? Do you want it to go inside you or do you want to go inside someone else? It's like an Amish woman off the wagon fumbling magazines like, what are these? Rum Sprigga, Rum Sprigga. Well, it's like Sex and the City, and just like that, those characters, and they were woken up after an ice age.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Right. Like, she's a sex columnist, but is so flabbergasted by pronouns. Right. Like, what happened in the interim? It's so crazy. They, like, they stumble out of a cave and bump into a representative.
Starting point is 00:12:01 In Manolo Blanco. And they stumble into a representative from Alelo. They give her a bunch of tools to excavate. Did you see that character getting chomped out in the kitchen by Chay Diaz? I've never seen that show. Maybe when we were, sweetie. Mary, all you did was bitch about how bad it was. So why would I start watching it?
Starting point is 00:12:19 It is not bad. It is terrible. Okay. Okay. But, but, okay, so this is why you watch in Just Like That, Sarah Jessica Parker's hair. That's it. Her hair. She's a wonderful performer.
Starting point is 00:12:33 She's a wonderful performer, but it's really, her hair is the fourth girl at brunch. Yeah. It's like, it's show-stopping. It's really just a vehicle for Serge, her hairdresser. Yeah. It's really amazing. Don't you agree? I have to tell you something that Blizzy said on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:12:50 But we will be visiting that clip of Cynthia Nixon getting dug out in the kitchen. Because it was shocking to me. She was like, he, Che Diaz was covering her mouth so that she wouldn't, because she had a friend in the next room. Well, do you, or Carrie! Carrie was in the next room. Well, do you remember, did you watch Orange is the New Black? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:09 I remember there was some fingering that was like, it was complete fist. And I was like, I didn't know that, I didn't know that the vaginal fisting was a big deal. Really? A huge deal. Yeah, I mean, it's very elastic. Very elastic.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Blizzy, my favorite person on Twitter, the day she tweeted, wore cargo shorts today and she shared the picture of Cynthia Nixon on the advocate. Because she wore cargo pants and the t-shirt says dyke. Blizzy continuing to bring it home on Twitter every single fucking week. Also, the complete amazement of having Cynthia Nixon's character
Starting point is 00:13:47 have a late in life sexual renaissance slash questioning is so bizarre to me. I love it though. Can I say that I don't think it's bizarre because I think that. It does happen of course. Certain types of women, you are bred to be one thing. You are not encouraged to imagine yourself as anything else.
Starting point is 00:14:03 But this is a New York City lawyer. Right. I mean, I don't know. Well, but she's like white and waspy, isn't she? She's like uptight. You're friends with Samantha Jones and Carrie Bradshaw and you don't know you're a dyke? I just think that's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:16 I think Samantha could probably bring it out of any of these friends. She'd be like, honey, you're a dyke. No, I mean, like, even if you're 100% into men, if you're sitting by Samantha, aren't you like? Yeah. You know? Yes. You want to chomp on them titties.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Kind of like Troye Sivan, reaching across the aisle. Every person wants to fuck Troye Sivan. I, hello, what? Every person. Men, women, and children. On the Titanic, they put people in the boats to go fuck Troye Sivan. What are you talking about? Because I think men are like, oh, there's a softness. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 00:14:48 And women are like, oh, yeah. Androgyny. And gay men, I mean, gay men obviously want to fuck him too. Yeah. He's got a kind of like a tilde. It's like universally beautiful. Okay. Right?
Starting point is 00:14:59 Wow. If he teamed up with tilde, they could tag team the world. Completely. But okay. So I'm just, I don't know. I guess I'm probably jealous because I wish I could have a late in life sexual renaissance where I realize I'm straight. Not straight, but I realize that I'm bisexual.
Starting point is 00:15:15 I mean, could be honest, because being a gay guy is fucking corny. It's corny, it's tired. It's corny, it's so played out. The court is all frayed and it doesn't work anymore. Like Sean Hayes finished that Scantron and turned it in so long ago. The library book has been returned to the reference section. It's over. We're all reheating nachos by being gay men.
Starting point is 00:15:34 It's stupid. It is so stupid and it tastes like shit. I think being straight is kind of transgressive now. But you don't stay straight. It's kind of up in the air. It's not really pinned down. That's fun. That's fun, wacky, and wild. It's amazing. straight. It's not, it's kind of up in the air. It's not really pinned down. That's fun. That's fun, wacky and wild. It's amazing. Yeah, it's like, ooh.
Starting point is 00:15:47 It also eliminates coming out. It eliminates what are you. It eliminates the pressure of picking an outfit to wear for the rest of your life, basically. And I know that the groups and the labels are all for a reason so you can find each other, whatever. But I love the just like, let's see what happens. It's Friday.
Starting point is 00:16:06 That's what Rebecca Black's Friday was about. It was about straight guys hooking up. It was handy. Straight guys. I'm really happy that I'm off that path with the straight men because that's just, it's a, you're driving a lemon with the straight guys. You are, you are. You're driving a lemon.
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Starting point is 00:22:55 I saw the photos. I saw the video. I love it. I love it. Well, thank God. I love it so much. You used to hate this place. I still hate it. I'm in active hatred of it. Ongoing. Why? Because everything... I could bore you to tears about it. I'm in active hatred of it, ongoing. Why? Because everything, I could worry to tears about it.
Starting point is 00:23:08 If you can change the bathroom, why can't you change the rest of it? You own it. No, no, I am, but it's gonna take a little time. However, the bathroom is nearly done, and I love it so much. I'm gonna shit all over those walls. It is very sumptuous.
Starting point is 00:23:19 It's gonna be hard for you to perpetuate this poverty-stricken storyline when you have this plush-ass bathroom. No, no, no, I'm flipping the script. I'm going full Gilded Age. Once this bathroom is complete, I'm like, old money, oh, that's across the street. There's...
Starting point is 00:23:33 I'm going full Carrie Coons in the Gilded Age. I'm gonna wear brocade dresses, speak with an affectation. Right. Honey. I'm happy for you. Yeah, I'm happy for myself too. So how long until you can... Is it usable? Are you peeing in there? What's going on? Nope, there's no pee or poop yet. However, we'm happy for you. Yeah, I'm happy for myself too. So how long until you can, is it usable? Are you peeing in there?
Starting point is 00:23:46 What's going on? Nope, there's no pee or poop yet. However, we got to replace the toilet. Had a black toilet on retainer, or not on retainer, like on deck. Yeah. Just happened to have an extra- Well it's such a hassle to paint your own.
Starting point is 00:23:57 No, really. I happened to have an extra black toilet. Extra black? How many types of black? No, the black toilet installed today- For your toilet, did you want black or extra black? How many types of black? No, no. The black toilet installed today. For your toilet, did you want black or extra black? I thought you meant like deep black. Like mascara, there's black and black is black. I thought it was like blue black.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Yeah, I thought it was like, it's autumn sunrise. No, no, no. But so I got, this is how I know I did something good. I realized, like I said before, that interior design is the job for a reason, because it's really difficult. Right. And it requires some training. However, the tile guy was showing videos of the design of the place to his other client, and they were like, who's the designer?
Starting point is 00:24:34 Who is that? It's me. It's you. It's me. And you were proud to say it was me. I was extremely proud. I haven't been proud of something in like 25 years. You shelling out Radio City Music Hall and feeling nothing,
Starting point is 00:24:45 and then proud of the tile in the bathroom. A black toilet, Gooning. A black toilet and you sitting there going. A cracked black toilet. Extra black. Extra black. But so I love it and I was worried because I made a lot of bold choices.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Imagine how light colored your poop's gonna look in a black toilet. It's gonna be white. Baby, you ain't gonna see anything. It's gonna be a bowl of mystery. I've been having to do some light re-imagining of my home. What's your favorite room in the house? Not like just in general. Mine?
Starting point is 00:25:14 Is it the bedroom, the kitchen? Where do you locate the most? The dining room. The dining room. I love the dining room. It's like the epicenter of the thing. The gold ceiling, I love it. But when you break up with somebody,
Starting point is 00:25:26 eventually you have to give shit back and you go, oh, I guess that's not my colander. So then you're using your bare hands to pour hot noodles in trying to, you know what I mean? Yeah, tea bags, it just, yeah. Ask me how many pieces of silver I have right now. Four. Zero.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Damn. Nothing, we ain't got nothing. So now I'm in my second era of, well, now I'm gonna go online and I'm gonna have to look at some end tables. Do you enjoy this process? No. I thoroughly do.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Okay. But I have a lot of time. Okay, yeah. You don't. I liked having those things and it's, now it's like, it's like a second draft to be like, did I like that table? Because sometimes I'm like,
Starting point is 00:26:02 should I just buy that table again? Or should I get something else? Exactly. But I also feel really strongly about used items right now. So I'm up on the marketplace. I'm up on the offer. Facebook marketplace. Facebook won't let me onto their website.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Otherwise I would use Facebook marketplace to acquire furniture. Craigslist. Yes. That's where I got that giant painting in my house. 500 bucks. It's fabulous. I had to rent a U-Haul and go to Alhambra.
Starting point is 00:26:24 You can haggle. You can haggle at CB2.Haul and go to Alhambra. You can haggle. You can haggle at CB2. Well, I also, I know that in Mexico you can haggle, but I'm not confident. I know, it's like speaking a language. It's another language. Also, what am I supposed to be like? The person on vacation blowing money for a weekend
Starting point is 00:26:38 being like, this is your livelihood. I'm not paying that much. Just getting their money. It's a sport. Like in soccer, you don't use your hands. You just gotta play the game. I'm too avoidant to haggle. No shit.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Pick something up and go, I don't know, I'll give you five bucks. If they were advertising it for $300, I'll pay 400. That's how my haggling skills work. It's horrible. Anybody else who's listening, do you feel like your nightmare is someone going, well, you have to haggle?
Starting point is 00:27:02 If it was a rummage, someone goes, how much do you wanna to pay for it? I'm immediately shitting blood. I'm like, fuck. It's like, what's your name? What do you want it to be? Oh brother. Right. Yeah. It's, I don't like that. Just give me the price. And I either have the money or I don't. Yeah. Although that being said, when I walk into an antique store, mama, it's like blood sport. I love to haggle because they sell this shit so, they price it to haggle.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Right. This chandelier is $16,000. They will take $5,000 for it. Right. But you gotta know that. You gotta know it. You gotta know that. I also, I didn't, I, my basement and like a lot of my storage is now empty.
Starting point is 00:27:40 So now I feel like my house is like half empty. So I'm like excited about things that I can put away. All the built-ins are empty. It's like, I was like, wow, there's a lot of cabinet space now that is empty. My basement just has Christmas decorations, nothing else. How big is your basement? Maybe this room, it's like a wine cellar.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Do you have one of those wine fridges? And if so, can you tell me why? I don't have a wine fridge. I just have a, cause I have the fridge in the kitchen and the fridge in the guest house. So I do put, fridge. I put beverages in the fridge in the guest house
Starting point is 00:28:14 for company. That was like, what do you want to drink? It's right there. And it's a little like, it's a little bit Aaron Brockovich where they're like, you're not gonna have the soda I want. It's like, what number did you need? Cause I do have many cans of Diet Dr. Pepper. I have Diet Fresco from 1985. I do have Great Poppy that's gonna make you shit, bitch.
Starting point is 00:28:31 I love that Poppy soda. I had one in Palo Alto. Does it make you shit? I don't, yes, I blew ass, but I think I was gonna anyway. At this age, at this stage in my life, I feel that if I have even a nibble of hard cheese, I won't have a movement for six and a half weeks. So it's better for me to just sip on a little grape poppy.
Starting point is 00:28:52 You know? Get the girls moving. You know? Kind of a charcuterie board in my mouth. Oh God. We got the hard cheese and the grapes. What are you doing Sunday? I'm going to visit Meghan Markle.
Starting point is 00:29:04 No, I don't know. Would you like to come over? For three, for 35 minutes. I'm having a two and a half hour pool party. Hell yeah, I'll be there. Absolutely, I'll be there. So I'm in a house, is it new? I'm gonna have some soda and champagne
Starting point is 00:29:17 and a fruit plate and cheese. Hard out, 430. Well, I called- 2 to 430, hard out. I called Bob the Drag Queen on the way here and I said well I heard what you said about me on the podcast and I want you to know that I said I'm inviting you to a party from 11 to 2 30 Well, I guess that's sorry. It's three hours. It's fierce. I'm sorry. It's fierce when you go to mass Sunday
Starting point is 00:29:38 They don't say well, we just leave whenever no it's like a thing Yeah, I love borders. So I was wondering if you wanted to come over but in that time period and get jump in the pool. I absolutely do. I got a bunch of new floaties and I'm got a bunch new bat. Is this clothing optional? Can I say something that seems rich? I believe I believe that if you get a cheap beach towel, it will feel like a cheap beach towel. You know, when you get like a promotional beach towel, it's like, Oh, absolute gave you this beach towel. You know when you get like a promotional beach towel, it's like, oh, Absolute gave you this beach towel. It's a sham-wow. Cheap toilet paper is not a bargain.
Starting point is 00:30:08 It's not. That's like, yeah. And something like when you have guests and you go, here's your pool towel, and it's paper thin. Here's your scratchy thin napkin. Yeah, yeah. So I said, this isn't for me. This one's for the girls who've ever had a broken heart.
Starting point is 00:30:19 You know what I mean? So I got them. They're built to last. Thick, plush, pink and white stripey beach towels. So when guests come over, they feel thought of. Oversized, thick hotel towels. Are they the type that only they age like wine? The more you wash them, the better they get.
Starting point is 00:30:37 I guess we'll find out, cause they haven't arrived yet. So, and then I was. No, do we get in the tub? All my stunning martini glasses belonged to one David Silver. Okay. So I was like, crap, I don't have any more fancy martini glasses. So I was looking online at martini glasses on William Sonoma. Very expensive.
Starting point is 00:30:56 But glass shatter, cut, ouch, blood, pool, drunk. Think about it. There's this woman called, she's running a scam. Her name is Mackenzie something. Of course Mackenzie. But think about glass martini, like beautiful glass drunk people, you know, drunk people. Mackenzie Childs. She makes these stunning glasses. That's a per glass price.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Yeah, I believe it. Mackenzie Childs, $69 for a tiny... It looks like a hand blown, like... Somebody better blow me. For 69 bucks, Mackenzie Childs? Yeah, I don't know the... Yeah. But blowing glass is kind of... Blowing ass is kind of...
Starting point is 00:31:37 Blowing ass is free. No, they had a whole major at my school. You're majoring in glass blowing. I was on WilliamSonoma.com and I was like... I was like, in my mind I went, it's a set of eight. I went, six, 70 bucks, beers, what a deal. And I got to the cart and it said one. I said something, something.
Starting point is 00:31:53 So I was like, okay. If it's handmade though. $69 for a glass? Mary, if it's hand fucking made, that's a piece of art. If it's handmade and not from Guangzhou or wherever. I know, maybe I'm just being cheap. I just don't understand that. Well, that's not, I mean, that's not a scam.
Starting point is 00:32:09 That's a splurge. Do you know what I mean? But I don't think Mackenzie Childs is in a warehouse somewhere blowing drops. I don't think so either. It's probably a drop ship scenario. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:20 It's probably coming from Guangzhou. So Mackenzie, I got my fucking eye on you. I don't even know you. You bitch. But I'm going to tell you that when I go to world market and I find a comparable cup in a set of eight for under 40 bucks, you will get clapped. You will get fucking clapped. I've gotta talk to you about.
Starting point is 00:32:38 And I'm a strong proponent of when people separate, they should take the things that they own that he paid for. Yeah, or just their hair. Goodbye to the stunning glasses, love those glasses. And I thought, you know what? I have my own money. Today's a wonderful day to get new glasses.
Starting point is 00:32:50 When you both have your own money, just consciously uncouple. Right. Do like Gwyneth. Do you know what Busy Phillips did? Her and her husband, well ex-husband as they were separating had a estate sale for their like joint belongings.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Love that shit. And they kept it very amicable. And then you can use that money to pay for the lawyers to fucking fleece each other. No. There will be no fleecing. No, no. And I want everybody who has a martini to have a stunning glass for that martini.
Starting point is 00:33:14 But let me ask you- So I wanna have a nice glass for my guests. Okay. I don't drink martini. I understand, I understand. But like thinking about final destination and thinking about like what happens when people get drunk in pool areas.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Well, I need plastic for the pool. That's what I'm saying. No glass around the pool. That's a very, very dangerous situation. I know. And the plastic pool wear wasn't purchased by me either, so that's also gone. So I was like, crap, if I'm trying to have a pool party Sunday, if I'm trying to have a pool party Sunday, what am I going to do?
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Starting point is 00:38:35 No, they want the sun. They're there for the sun. The vitamin D, everybody in LA is depressed. I was there for 90 minutes. Everybody in LA is depressed. I was in the water for 90 minutes like La Llorona. I don't believe it. I don't believe it. You don't believe it?
Starting point is 00:38:46 I could corroborate this with any, with 65 witnesses. Do you swim or do you float? I do both of them. Sometimes I sit there. Do you play on the phone? Absolutely not. Phone's in the locker. I like to put both arms on the side of the pool and play on the phone.
Starting point is 00:38:59 But I don't put the, the phone never goes over the water. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. Even though I think the new iPhone can handle like six feet of submergence. Well, this whore, this little slut, this little slut was submerged for nine days. This slut, this fucking, this fucking coos. Yeah!
Starting point is 00:39:12 Coos is the worst. But then you stuck your finger in my coos and fucked me so hard I couldn't remember my name. Did you see Sinners yet? No. You gotta watch it. I'm trying to see Final Destination right now. Me too.
Starting point is 00:39:22 That's my top priority. I am surprised that we did not get invited to a premiere. Mary, do you know who's already seen it? Yeah, I know. My mother. I said, she said, can I, I called her last night and I wanted to tell her. How does Val get tickets to Final Destination early? Well, I wanted to tell her, hey, I got, oh. Big.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Did you just break the chair? No. What the fuck? Okay, big. At my present. You fat bitch. Damn. Okay, wait, how does that all get to see final destination?
Starting point is 00:39:55 So I called Val last night just to give her, you know, she was kind of encouraging me to, you know, make sure that we finished the move. I'm not trying to, if people don't have the right apartment yet, I'm not like, we don't have the type of relationship where I'm throwing we finish the move. I'm not trying to, if people don't have the right apartment yet, I'm not like, we don't have the type of relationship where I'm throwing shit on the street. So it's like keeping someone's stuff safe in your house
Starting point is 00:40:11 until it's time to go. And I called my mom to let her know that that chapter had ended. And she was like, can I let you go? I'm watching a movie. And I said, what movie are you watching today? That new Final Destination, your cousin Jada got it for us online.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Got it online? They all watching bootleg videos. I am so impressed. Bootleg final destination movies. It's so hard to procure those. She probably gets them on the dark web. Mama, I called her this morning because I said you didn't want to talk to me yesterday so let me finish my story.
Starting point is 00:40:36 And then I said, it's noon. I said, it sounds like your words are slurring. Did you just wake up? She goes, I'm really high. Oh my God. Your mom is a kiki. She's a wild kiki for sure. Can I tell you?
Starting point is 00:40:49 Val. I have something that I don't know who else to talk to about it. But I- Did you kill a homeless person? This is my, I've been in therapy for a couple years. Okay. And I've stopped now.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Wait, really? And I've never thought about at some point you stop. How do you stop? How do you talk to a therapist about stopping? Okay. What do you think about that? Okay, there's, I know this, because I have a lot of therapist friends who actually, that's their job. And it's obvious that you stop often.
Starting point is 00:41:15 You stop therapy often. Well, literally had a psychiatry appointment today where I mentioned that I stopped seeing my therapist because I was happy. There's today? Not, not today. My psychiatry appointment my therapist because I was happy. Which is not, not my psychiatry appointments today. I am psychic. Yeah. I have, so- I'm psychic.
Starting point is 00:41:31 There's, wait. Don't even get me started on the psychic occurrence from last week. Oh, I know. We can't, we gotta keep that under wraps because we're taking that to the casino. Yeah. So, so I thought my therapist text me and said,
Starting point is 00:41:41 we haven't really had regular appointments in like two months. Yeah. Do you want to talk about how to cadence, like how to put a period on this? Yeah, what's the rollout? What's the timeline? And I didn't know because I don't know how,
Starting point is 00:41:52 you shouldn't just stop. Well, usually what you do with a therapist is say, what are you looking for? Are you looking for a problem solving timeline? Are you looking for a general maintenance? What's the vibe? And once you guys like, you make a battle plan, you create a timeline and then you
Starting point is 00:42:06 can work on, Hey, it's like, it's like doing a job. It's like renovating your brain or whatever. But I know a lot of people who want to be in therapy forever. Interesting. Because it's like, it's maintenance. They're like, they need a professional who's not their friend to like bounce shit off of, and it does it like happy, sad, mad, or glad or whatever. You got to like look under the hood.
Starting point is 00:42:29 We don't have to, but I mean, it can be helpful. I went and I said, I don't really know how to stop this. What do you do? And he was like, um, he was like, well, we talk about the gains you've made and how that you should apply those in the future. And it was like very nice to be out when When you put a stop to the care process, you can give a nice, strong thank you. Things can have an ending.
Starting point is 00:42:48 It was very gratifying to be able to say, I mean this, you know. Yeah. I don't want to blow up his spot, but he probably doesn't watch this, but I was very grateful for years and years of getting me through the hardest time of my life. And I said, I don't want, I said,
Starting point is 00:43:03 I just want to stop because I'm so happy. I don't even know what to talk to when I come here. That's a good thing. Cause I've been in that situation many times where like, I go to the, like you're, there's nothing left to talk about it. Yeah. You've finished, you've like discussed the thing plus like,
Starting point is 00:43:18 like my stuff, I have like a whole other thing that I can go to. Right. I mean, but like the, yeah. You don't want to pathologize behaviors just for the sake of it. No. You kind of find yourself doing that sometimes, it's weird.
Starting point is 00:43:28 But the first half of getting therapeutic help was asking myself questions about, do I need help? How do I start? Who would I talk to? And the end of it was like, do I stop? What do I say? And what if the therapist is like, You wanna stop?
Starting point is 00:43:44 Yeah, I honestly was afraid that he would be like... Girl. I mean, sometimes they... I guess it also depends on the style of therapy. DBT, CBT... Cock and ball torture? Cock and ball torture. Diabolical ball torture.
Starting point is 00:44:01 I never thought about how to stop and then you just stop. Or if you're a New Yorker You always go to therapy you do. Yeah, it's like the New York thing. Oh Wendy well, no, I haven't seen it. Is it is it gonna make me like upset because it's exploitative Well, some of the people talking about it's sort of a free Brittany a free Wendy. So it's kind of talking about her mental acuity. It's people who've been her producers, her friends, her stylists, whatever. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Is it pro Wendy? It's pro Wendy. It's pro Wendy. I mean, all of us are pro Wendy in the sense of this motherfucker has the gift of gab. She is doing the hot topics. She is, you know. No, but I can't you envision or imagine
Starting point is 00:44:43 a pretty sizable population of people who like wanna see that bitch cut down because she was a gossip monger? But that doesn't have anything to do with her mental health. Whether or not you like her. Of course not, no, no, no, it doesn't. But I'm just saying that there are, she's not a universally loved person.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Have you ever heard the call with Whitney Houston in her? Of course I have. It's crazy, Whitney takes her wig and fucking slaps her in the face with it. What's fun about Wendy is that when people call her out, she is like, I said it. I'll say it again. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:10 You know what I mean? She's unapologetic. Yeah. She's kind of in the Kathy Griffin tribe of like, Kathy can't be like, no, I didn't say that. Right, right, right. There's a special of her saying it. It's like, you can admit to being a cunt,
Starting point is 00:45:20 but you're still a cunt. Right. And I guess, you know, as much as sometimes I have been in times in my life where I wish I could snap my fingers, like last summer, I wish I could snap my fingers and not have everybody interested in my personal life. But when you are a huge celebrity, huge, the people at home watching Wendy
Starting point is 00:45:38 also are talking about you. Everyone's talking about you. So I think it's like a two way street. Where's the line though? Like where's the line? Well, it's tough. I mean, I don I think it's like a... Where's the line though? Like where's the line? Well, it's tough. I don't think it's very fun or productive to watch a crazy person just banging the walls
Starting point is 00:45:49 in a goldfish tank. No, and I guess they were talking about conservatorship as a whole and they were saying, what conservatorship does at its best is like take care of a person who can't take care of themselves. Like it's meant to be beneficial. I care a lot.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Right. And so they talk about the problem with conservatorships is it's very easy to abuse those scenarios. And they're not directly alleging that that's being abused, but they kind of ask the question is like, if Wendy is someone who has like the mental acuity to recall all these like pop culture things at any moment and talk,
Starting point is 00:46:24 you watch these scenes where she's behind glass and she's in a memory care facility for people who can't remember who they are. I know. And she's in there being like, I'm on the, I don't know how to get out of here. I'm just like talking on the phone. She, I heard she called into the view and I listened to that conversation. It was very strange and it was like, yeah, it was just like, what's going on here? It's tough too when the person is, you know, exorbitantly wealthy and surrounded by people who make money off them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:51 And also, two things can be true at the same time. You can be someone, they can be looking out for you and also themselves. Right. You know what I mean? Like, we want to make sure she's safe. I also want some money. It's also possible to say that someone
Starting point is 00:47:02 doesn't need a conservatorship, but they do need some help. Absolutely. It's not zero to 100 that someone doesn't need a conservatorship, but they do need some help. Absolutely. It's not zero to 100. I love Wendy and I loved the last Wendy piece, that series documentary about her, and I had to watch this one. And I love Wendy and I, like, as a viewer and fan and supporter, want the best for her.
Starting point is 00:47:20 We don't fucking know her. We don't. We don't know her. James! We're just watching. What was that? Yeah, we don't for her. We don't fucking know her. We don't. We do not know her. James, we're just watching. What was that? Yeah, we don't know her. I know the Wendy Cinematic Universe, courtesy of Vern Hess, that's all I know.
Starting point is 00:47:32 What is that? What's that YouTube called again? It's... They kind of have connective tissue to head V empty. Yes, it's that energy. What is it? It's, anyways, it's the Wendy Cinematic Universe. I can't urge you strongly enough to check it out.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Maybe I will. You haven't checked out this one? No, I've seen them on YouTube. Oh, the Vernonator. Vernonator, yes. Check out the Vernonator. I think he's retired that. But anyways, it's so great.
Starting point is 00:47:56 And God. Love. But wait, I have to tell you very briefly. I'll keep it very brief. I had one of the weirdest, most horrifying nightmares. It was so specific, I just need to say it out loud. What happened? I was in the Louisiana swamp Bayou area
Starting point is 00:48:13 and I was getting tortured by a hillbilly family that worked for a Vietnamese nail company. Like nails? No, like my body was getting tortured in the water by an alligator. And then my fingers were getting like chopped off and sold to a nail shop for like hand mannequins. Who would try to sell something by putting it on your hands? I know!
Starting point is 00:48:37 My little nubs, because they like picked them apart. And it was like happening in slow motion and I could feel every like thing of the, it was horrible. God. But if they threw me in the swamp and then the alligators would eat up my like body and then they'd take the nails and give them to the nail shop. Or the fingers rather. Did you wake up like, like, ha ha ha?
Starting point is 00:48:59 Yeah, in a big puddle of drool. I keep falling asleep on the couch. Do you think that's bad? Spending it on the couch? Yeah, it's not good. You shouldn't do that. No. What position do you sleep in generally? If you're going to bed, on the bed.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Well, I'm kind of like, there's a lit joint in this hand. You're very Ellen Barkan in Drop Dead Gorgeous. Very much so, very much so. And also lately, my only strategy to not eat when I'm high is to play video games. So you will fucking see me at 1130. Sure.
Starting point is 00:49:28 85 inch TV. Three inches from it. Playing Breath of the Wild on the Switch, swerving. You don't eat in bed though, do you? Of course not. Oh, okay. They're gonna say of course they do. Eat in bed?
Starting point is 00:49:39 I don't know. I mean, I used to smoke in bed. You did? I have done. Cigarettes? In my bed I have. Why? Not usually, I used to smoke in bed. You did? I have done. Cigarettes? In my bed, I have. Why? Not usually, but in the living room, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Disgusting. The most vile behavior ever. Vile, disgusting. How's your non-smoking going? I was gonna say, I need to make a disclaimer. I was, I smoked a cigarette in public Wednesday night, and I felt such guilt. And I just have to give it to you.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Cause you feel like you're lying to America. Yeah. I don't feel. But the X program isn't about. It's not about being like, I know, but I, I'm, I'm so like, I love the guilt. I love it. I felt so ashamed. I felt so ashamed. Did you feel like, you feel like a celebrity getting paparazzi? I did. I like, I was literally at a meeting and I was like, I, I. You went to a meeting. Yeaharazzi. I did I like I was literally at a meeting I was like I you went to a meeting. Yeah. Yeah, I was like, I'm not
Starting point is 00:50:28 Not so we see you leave the meeting we see you smoke and we go fuck that bitch But I might as well just shoot up these people who don't know me don't care about me are like whatever we don't care By the way, these people are also like I only have a day Sober I'm on the brink of death and you're like, I smoked. Yeah, I'm having a cigarette guys. Please don't call the program. This is an NA meeting. There's no tobacco anonymous.
Starting point is 00:50:51 You fucking ho. Tobacco is the lifeblood of all beatings, to be honest. Have you felt that like, do you have a trigger with that stuff? What is it? Cause I've noticed that when we're working, that's when you get wild. Well, it's the, in drag, it's the worst. It sucks. Thank God it never worked.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Because, like... It sucks. No, it sucks. Like, I... That is a pattern that's really, like, grooved. I just want a break. Like, if we're doing Netflix, in between episodes, not smoke against torture. You... I've seen you step out of this and smoke between two. Something about being on and then a break,
Starting point is 00:51:23 you want to smoke. I love a punctuation mark. Or like a colon. You also smoke in drag before shows. I've seen you step out of this and smoke between two. Something about being on and then a break, you'd wanna smoke. I love a punctuation mark or like a colon. You also smoke and drag before shows. Before we go on stage. During, after, smoke, disgusting. This fucker would be hanging out the stage door. It was like Chicago.
Starting point is 00:51:37 The overture would be going and you'd be like, would the body make on? I would go after, I would be panting, sweating, like covered in sweat, panting after my number directly outside a cigarette God's perfect breathing system. Yeah, I was like, I think my lungs work too. Well, I need to throw a little wrench in that system Right. Yeah, but I have not been smoking to my chagrin, but I did have a cigarette in public the other day And I felt a huge guilt and shame over it
Starting point is 00:52:02 Well, I I don't think you're the first person to ever say they're not gonna smoke and then smoke. Yeah, I just don't wanna, like, you know what it is? It's like also, I don't wanna... How many a day are you smoking? Zero. Okay, so this is like a... Oh no, this is like real, I've like literally almost...
Starting point is 00:52:18 You don't think I feel bad about it? No, but I'm just saying like one cigarette, cause people often say I'm a smoker or I'm a nonsmoker. It's black and white, which I don't subscribe to that. It's like you kill one guy. It's like, you're not a murderer. Right. Or if I have one spicy McChicken blackout drunk,
Starting point is 00:52:34 I'm still a vegetarian. Hello. That's hypothetical. Yeah. But like, so I just, but I do love that that, it's not exactly a ironclad, a layer of accountability, but it's working Yeah, it's the I don't want to smell like shit and I don't want to feel that guilt Can I smell you? Mm-hmm?
Starting point is 00:52:53 You don't smell like smoke at all because I haven't had a cigarette you usually have when you get close I smell like disgusting No, you don't recap cigarettes. It's just sort of like Smoky like you were in the Egypt store at the mall Well, that's yeah, because if you choose the right fragrance, then you smell like a cigar. Oh, cause then it's like the smoke is part of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:11 But I am like, I'm retroactively ashamed of all the times I've got into a squeaky clean, Uber black smelling like the cat's ass. Well, I've been trying not to be drunk and hungover. Like my current goal of this age is to not be hungover. You have to drink less. Okay. So that's how they get you. That's how they get you. So this was, this was two weeks ago. I, did we talk about this? Buffy trivia? No, we didn't. Okay. So two
Starting point is 00:53:38 weeks ago, it was a Monday. I'm out on my long walk. I like to go for walks right now because my arthritis is in remission. So I've been running. It's been great. Ran two miles this morning. Ran through. Ran through. And so I walked by High Tops Los Feliz, one of my favorite gay bars in LA. Love High Tops Los Feliz.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Me too. It's crazy that we all say Los Feliz. What is it? Los Feliz? Probably, yeah. Los Feliz. Yeah. So I'm walking by and I go, you know what?
Starting point is 00:54:03 I'm with my friend and I go, let's go in and just get a drink. Let's get a cocktail. Right. It's like, I love to go on my walk and then walk by a bar and be like, what? You know, both nipples out.
Starting point is 00:54:14 What? In a way, New York City was the fifth girl I've watched. I look at my watch, it's like 0.43 miles. And just like that. I got exhausted. So we go in and we get a little drink and they have this great drink called the hot rod that's made with a spicy vodka or spicy tequila.
Starting point is 00:54:30 It's like it's jalapeno tequila. Is that going to give you? No, no, I'm good. I have the great poppy. That's right. So, um, and then one of the bar they know me all there because I DJ there. And so they come up and they go, are you here for trivia? I go, no, I was just like walking by.
Starting point is 00:54:46 What's the trivia category? And they go, oh, tonight is Buffy the vampire slippery trip trivia. I said, I stood up, I unbuttoned my pants, I pulled the underwear and the pants down and I started going like this. Dangling. And so whipping that.
Starting point is 00:55:04 But mind you, it's 5.30. Trivia's not til eight. And so I go, well, we better get another round because we're not giving up this table, all right? This is East Hollywood. Those lesbians will come in here and take this table. All right? And I am nothing if not someone who feels comfortable
Starting point is 00:55:18 taking things from women, right? Not true, not true. But I knew because it's Buffy trivia, I'm not generalizing, but I'm like, it's gonna be a bunch of geeky gay guys. And like, lesbians. And we're all gonna be in here fighting to the death to see who remembers which middling character from a random episode.
Starting point is 00:55:38 So, and then people start showing up in the Buffy t-shirts. Somebody shows up with a steak. People have cross necklaces on. Any vampires? No. No. And then they start trivia. They in the Buffy t-shirts. Somebody shows up with a steak. People have cross necklaces on. Any vampires? No. And then they start trivia. They start the Buffy theme.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Me and the East Hollywood lesbians are... Turning it up. Turning it up to 11. We're horned. We're horned. We're horned. Your back sounds like Buffy. Completely.
Starting point is 00:55:59 So then they start. The first round is really easy questions. I mean, so then I go, I got to assemble the dream team. So it's six o'clock and I go watch this. I'm with my friend who's only seen five seasons of Buffy. I call Jennifer from Netflix. Okay. She's a Buffy person? She loves Buffy.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Really? Yeah, she loves Buffy. So I go, get down here. And then I go, should I do it? You better believe I called her. Sarah Michelle Geller? No, I called Tom Lank from Buffy the Vampire Slayer who plays Andrew. And I go... Wait, that's such a flex. And I go, would you come down here?
Starting point is 00:56:28 It's Buffy trivia and I'm trying to win. And I wonder if you'll know some of the weird shit like what network or what time of year, stuff that maybe only actors remember. And he goes, okay. So he comes down with his lovely boyfriend, Steve, and he's in a hat and glasses, so no one recognizes him. And I leave him the chair that faces away from the room. So I'm facing the whole room. So people just think it's, oh, that's
Starting point is 00:56:51 Trixie. She's here, block her all the time. She's gross. Right? We hate her. So that Tom is facing away from everyone. And so no one's clocking his non-binary T. And with his T on the show? He played Andrew, who was like a main character, beloved, like, people loved him. Very well known. Yes, especially Gaze loved him. Gotcha. Okay. So, I got my dream team, right? Somebody who's seen five seasons, somebody who's seen the whole thing a couple times, Jennifer.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Yeah. And then somebody's been on it, right? And I think, I'm really bringing it. And I go, Tom, if you ever want to go to Drag Race Trivia, I'll go with you. He's like, I don't, and I don't care. And you would not be any good. And you don't know anything, bitch. So.
Starting point is 00:57:27 He would be terrible. Because they're always like, they're always like, who wore this last season? I'm always like, fuck. And even on Pit Stop, I only see it once. I know. So we start. We get the whole first category.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Got it. No one can touch me, right? Of course. And then we have to, you have to come up with a name for trivia. And in Buffy, they call their group the Scooby Gang. And I go, Scooby Gang Bang. That's fun. Sure. They call me up there and they go,
Starting point is 00:57:52 somebody else is Scooby Gang Bang. So one of you has to change your name. And I said, well, where's the other team? They said, they haven't come up here yet. I said, well, again, they're changing their names. Okay. But also I'm on the patio and the system to me was not loud enough.
Starting point is 00:58:04 So every time there's a question, people are drinking and chatting. I'm standing on a chair going, shh. Shhh. Shut up. I'm straining to hear the questions. Okay. I thought, I've seen Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Starting point is 00:58:17 probably 50 times in my life, the whole series. 50? Maybe not, that sounds crazy. That's a little crazy. Let's say when I was a teenager, probably twice a year every year and then probably once a year every year after that. the whole series. 50. Maybe not. That sounds crazy. That's a little crazy. Let's say when I was a teenager, probably twice a year every year and then probably once a year every year after that. So what?
Starting point is 00:58:31 25 times I've seen the show. 25 is a lot. I feel like. I've seen it that many times. I don't know what to say. I'm gross. You know everything about the show. Hell pig.
Starting point is 00:58:39 I'm a hell pig who knows everything about the show. Hell pig. Hell pig. Hell pig! Yeah, so I'm humbled because I think I know this shit. If you think you know Buffy, you have not met an East Hollywood lesbian and the geeky gay friend. These fuckers know everything. They came for your ass.
Starting point is 00:58:56 They know everything. They know everything. They're asking shit that I'm like, what about, sorry. They're asking shit like, all right. And to me it's like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, it was a TV show. It took place in California.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Who is the first mayor of California? That is not Buffy. I know that's not. This is a trick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a trick. Who put the, you know, I just, you know, get mad. Yeah, you know what would be so fierce though? Because these are the same kind of people
Starting point is 00:59:26 who would know more about you than you know about you. And of course, like any actor in a show, Tom knows almost nothing. Right. Tom can't remember. It's in one ear and out the other. Tom's like, I know what I was in, on the seasons I was in, I don't really know much else.
Starting point is 00:59:42 And so I was like, you're probably even pulling your goddamn dead weight and you're not even pulling your goddamn dead weight and you're not even famous enough to get us some free drinks. What the fuck? Do you win anything? I got so drunk that I don't remember when it ended. I don't know how I got home.
Starting point is 00:59:56 And we're back. I was so hungover. I woke up yelling. I woke up on the couch going, and then what happens is I get hungover and I start, I get mad at myself for being hungover and I go, let's go to trivia. Ah!
Starting point is 01:00:13 Like I start being mad at myself. Oh, let's have a drink at trivia. Oh, let's have five of them, you fucking asshole. I love that. I get so mad at myself. I love that. That's fierce. But it was fun.
Starting point is 01:00:24 I would go to another Buffy trivia. Did you puke in that hangover or you just felt like shit? I didn't puke. I didn't puke. I just felt like shit. I hate puking. It's just awful. Being hungover is awful.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Drinking is so fun. But you do gotta, you gotta keep your eyes on the road cause I'm driving. Is it? You know. But cocaine. That's why they make cocaine. You gotta dry up.
Starting point is 01:00:44 That's why they invented cocaine. My question dry up. That's why they invented cocaine. My question to you before, I know we have to wrap. My question to you is, if you were gonna go to a trivia where you were as confident as I was, what's the show? Oh, baby. Sweet tea. Hold on one moment. What's the show?
Starting point is 01:00:58 The show, it's not a show. It's the 2000, it's the Sydney, it is the women's gymnastics all around final at the 2000 Sydney Olympics. And you think that there's gonna be a trivia night for that? No, I don't. But if there were, honey, the bravado that I would bring, the swagger that I would have, the insufferable quality of my personality at that trivia night would be too stifling.
Starting point is 01:01:27 I, we have to get, you have to get a job at the Olympics in LA. No, no. With gymnastics. Here's the thing though, the thing about gymnastics is like, it's better, You don't want the local crossies doing like coverage? No, they're so conservative.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Oh. It's like a, it's like a middle America young girls sport. It's weird. Right. But, but the, the, I'm trying to think of what a, Oh, it's like it's like a middle-america young girls sport Right, but but but the the I'm trying to think of what a Oh VEEP You would win a trivia night of VEEP. Yeah, I've watched the whole series front to back maybe five times. Okay, or curb Curb VEEP probably more so what about Game of Thrones? There's so much to know though There's so and you can't compete with the Game of Thrones nerds. Oh Oh no, no, no, cause they end up getting born in the game. Yeah, they're born in the game. Yeah, what about...
Starting point is 01:02:10 I honestly feel like I could do Drag Race seasons one through seven. Cause after I did it, I kind of like, you know, don't always watch it. Yeah, I would be so bad at Drag Race. I think we should go. Okay, well goodbye. Bye. Hey, it's Bobby from the Really Good Podcast.
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