The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - Ru Paul's Drag Race Season 7: "Origins" with Trixie and Katya

Episode Date: July 29, 2025

You are cordially invited to the first Drag Race Season 7 Reminiscence, a decadent audio dégustation featuring Miss Trixie Mattel and Madame Katya Zamolodchikova. The first course is an amuse-bouche of backstage trauma, served slightly chilled with a reduction of self-doubt and chicken coop wigs, as the dolls recount their entrances in RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 7. For the main course: tender morsels of personal revelation, seasoned with delusion, resilience, and the subtle bitterness of un-reimbursed oversize luggage fees. The feast shall conclude with a dessert featuring a rich soufflé of genuine love, appreciation, and grace—deflated, of course, by the cruel gusto of Michelle Visage’s withering critiques. Need a website? Head to Squarespace.com for a free trial, and when you’re ready to launch, go to https://Squarespace.com/BALD to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain! Stop putting off those doctors appointments and go to https://Zocdoc.com/BALD to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today! Give your summer closet an upgrade with Quince! Go to https://Quince.com/BALD for free shipping on your order and three hundred and sixty-five -day returns! Follow Trixie: @TrixieMattel Follow Katya: @Katya_Zamo To watch the podcast on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/TrixieKatyaYT⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out our official YouTube Clips Channel: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/TrixieAndKatyaClipsYT⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you want to support the show, and get all the episodes ad-free go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://thebaldandthebeautiful.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be amazing! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out future Live Podcast Shows, go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://trixieandkatyalive.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To order your copy of our book, "Working Girls", go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://workinggirlsbook.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out the Trixie Motel in Palm Springs, CA: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.trixiemotel.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Listen Anywhere! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   Follow Trixie: Official Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.trixiemattel.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@trixie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter (X): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   Follow Katya: Official Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.welovekatya.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/welovekatya/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Twitter (X): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠    #TrixieMattel #KatyaZamo #BaldBeautiful Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

I was fondled. What do you mean you were fondled? She fell to my legs. Okay, so we were on the phone talking about starting the Drag Race pod today. Yeah. And I said I was on my run. And I said, where are you? And she said, I'm over at the hardware store by our house.

I said, oh, yes. Oh, yeah. And then she geolocated within, like with the quickness. Did you notice on the call, I was like, well what are you buying? Because I want to see what aisle you were in. Oh my God, that's so smart. I don't know, because Mary, it took me about 20 minutes

to go find what I was looking for there, even though it's clearly, the signage is clear as day. Oh, I got you. She got me good. What were you buying, carpet something? I was buying carpet pads, yes I was. Girl, I got video of me ambushing you. Like a creeper, I set up the phone.

Oh my God, I thought I was... I thank God it wasn't singing because in the aisle just before this, I was really belting. Why was your finger up your butt? No. And why are you smelling it? That's a nine inch nail. Look at me. What am I doing? I don't know what I'm doing.

What are you doing? I had no plan. I just walked up. Look, and then I just grab. I just grab. She just came... And then you freak out. I freak out and I continue to freak out, but slowly. I think, you know what I think it's good that you have boundaries, because, you know, some of our ran through friends,

we could just run up and grab and they're like, "'Mmm, carpet." You know, they don't care. At least you're like, is someone touching me? They're like, business as usual. Yeah. But I have to say something. I have to address my own situation, which is that I am still obsessed with bad reviews of certain TV shows and movies.

Which ones? I read them more than once sometimes. What? Sometimes I search them out. For example, when Amelia Perez came out, I've read every single fucking review of that. Even people on Yahoo.com. Most of them were written by you.

Yeah, but I need to share with you because something about and just like that has really rubbed me the wrong way. I'll share with you a picture right now of this woman as actress who does not belong in the show, by the way. Is it Rosie? No, no, no. Rosie played a nun, a virgin. Great.

But I need you to look at this character. And her outfit. That's me. Mama, that's me. If you swap the brown here... The leather for sure. Oh, they're shorts. Swap the brown, yeah, swap the brown here for blonde. Oops. But...

Look at her. Look at the outfit. That's me. Anyways, so I was like, what is it about this show that is so insufferable? I'm just gonna read it. This is a dumpster fire. Everything from the name of the show to the devolved, lost, significantly dumbed down and unlikable characters, boring storylines and pathetic but always politically correct dialogue to horrendous, spoiled 15 going on 40 children that all of them would have been better off not having because they're not capable of parenting them properly to

Crass convos and sex scenes with senior citizens who still think they're 25 to sad forced relationship With equally lost and unlikable people to forced dei To non-fashion that most of the time looks like something your crazy old aunt would wear. This show is completely unwatchable Have I have no idea how the beautiful or is this a comment about this is a little bit more. Don't just bear with me, please. I have no idea how I'd ever made it past season one. Bring back the old writers if they're still alive. However, what I really think it boils down to is that there is no show here to be made anymore.

There's no show about how these senior, there's no show about these new, these now senior characters in any attempt to do so is as forced as the sex scenes and the DEI politically correct component. The characters have nothing left to say. They finished saying it all 25 years ago, and emotionally they remained in their 30s.

What's really depressing is to realize that these women didn't have a happy ending. They may be rich and completely out of touch with reality and the rest of humanity, but their lives haven't worked out. They're exactly where they were 25 years ago, but significantly worse for wear. This used to be fun, fashion forward, smart satire, but now it's a depressing congregation of clowns. Signed Kim Cattrall. Yeah!

But that is the most succinct indictment of how- Is that how you feel about it? Oh, 155%. Okay. I was like, thank God. Then why do you keep watching it? No, no, no, I try. I try-

But why do you try? Because it pulls me. It's like the ring, it's like in the Lord of the Rings. It's like I'm pulled. My precious. My precious. But then I put the ring on and I'm like, ew. You smell that?

You don't taste that shit? The only, I'm just, I know, I'm flabbergasted because... I wonder if any of our listeners watch it and what they feel. They have to. They have to. Cause there's people in their, I'm of the age that was, I've watched Sex in the City every episode, it's not a great show, but it was cool.

Carrie was cool, she's now looked at as a villain and an asshole, but she was cool. Samantha was very cool. The girls were fun and cool. They weren't trying to be diverse or politically correct, they were fucking in New York City. Well, can I be honest, I find sometimes people's hot takes about a show from 20 years ago.

It's like, girl, that's not that slam dunk you think it is. Right. Of course. All shows seem old. In retrospect, yeah. Which will get to the old show we're watching right now. Yeah. Mama!

But my example of that is like, I love The Office. And people will be like, it's actually not cool how Jim like bullies do it. I'm like, girl, go write a letter. I letter. And sit on it and hope it turns into an egg and hope that hatches and that chicken eats you. Well, think about this, Sex in the City, the OG, no cell phones mama. No cell phones. Just in the Meatpacking District vibe.

It wasn't text in the city. No, it was not. It was corded phone in the city. I mean, she literally had- Is it phone booth shit? It's corded phone. Is it answering machines? Yes.

I've never seen it. It's Post-It notes. It's, um, it's narration. It was, it was, it was fun and it was never boring. Did you ever live in a dorm? Yeah. Do you remember white boards on the wall? Yes. Hey, where were you? Call me. Whatever. When your friend comes by and you're not there,

they leave a note. Oh, I've never seen, I've never had that. Oh. But it's Post-It though. Guess you didn't have any visitors, guess you didn't have any friends. Post it. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Blood. He scrawled it in blood on the bathroom mirror.

I provided the board, I did not provide the marker. Bring your own marker. Thank you. Okay. I mean, who's, what college student is not carrying a bunch of dry erase in the satchel? Well, our version of that on dry erase was we used to pass each other notes under the door.

Oh my God, that's right, that's right. Should we start because I'm gonna- Let's just do it, let's just do it. This is the beginning of a rewatch and I guess we could explain to the guests what they can expect. We're not the pit stop. But you know what though?

Nopes. I have receipts. I have receipts, I have copious amounts of scrawled notes because I did do my motherfucking homework. I watched one episode a night. We're going to do this in chunks. We're doing this in chunks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Today we're going to do one through four. No! One through two. One through two. Because we also have to do, we have a prequel and the promo. That's right. OK. So to start the series, we're going to talk about getting cast, auditioning, and we're going to talk about getting cast, auditioning,

and we're going to talk about shooting the promo shoot. On which show? RuPaul's Drag Race, season seven on Logo TV. Logo TV Baby Doll. From 2015. 2010. Ten years ago. It's been... Can I tell you, I have not watched this or honestly thought about it in 10 years. No. And watching it was some black mirror shit. It was a little bit traumatizing. It was crazy, it was cringy. And mind you, the both of us attended, how many?

Eight premiere parties as it rolled out, because we had to watch that shit eight times in a row. The premiere episode. The premiere episode, we watched it in New York. We watched it in LA, we watched it in Vegas. We watched it in LA. We watched it in Vegas. We watched it in Chicago. We watched it in somewhere else, somewhere else, somewhere else. We had to travel and do shows.

For free. For free, eight shows for free. Can you believe that? In Chicago, I hadn't slept for two nights sober. Girl. Boop. Boop. Everything about doing drag.

So I guess let's start from the beginning. Yeah. It's season seven. Let's set the scene. Well, where were you? It's 2015. Donald Trump had not been invented yet. No.

Where were you when you got the call? The first call for the psych evaluation. Okay. So when you audition for Drag Race, I don't know what your process was, but mine was to, before my number, peek out the curtain, hand someone my Sony handy cam and someone who seemed less drunk and saying, can you just film this? It's already recording. So all my clips for Drag Race were like some drunk person I don't know, like swaying. And I'm obviously looking incredible in this bar footage from 2013. So I auditioned because I had got fired from

the Mac counter and had all this free time. And I got the call when I was in beauty school. I got a call from LA number. Cause you get the email first and the call, whatever. I got the email and was like, are the call? And I was like, hello? And they were like, it's casting for RuPaul's drag race. And they basically say you're moving ahead, but we need more information. And then I think I did a psychological evaluation.

Yeah. Mine was a little bit different. Maybe I remember it wrong. No, I know. I also remember you sharing years ago that you got carjacked. But that's another story. The week before. Yeah, fucking crazy. I so I had how many times had you audition was the first time?

Um, I did an audition the two years prior, but I mean, this was the first year I really read the thing, did everything they asked for, put a lot of time into it. Yeah, okay. Effort. I auditioned once in college. Okay. I did, I'm pretty sure this was my fifth time.

Oh wow. Or fourth time, at least four. And my audition for season six was very, very good. I wish I had it, I don't know if I have it, but it was, I thought it was great. And I thought at the time I was like, if they don't want me, they don't want me. Because this is as good as it's gonna get.

Right. Which isn't great at the time. No, it was not great at the time, but for me it was good. Right. And oh God. Did you finish that tape and you were like salt bae? You were like.

I was like, no, I should have been like snookie like, this is so bad. But for real, we didn't have iPhones to film auditions. Larry, the previous year before my good audition, I filmed one upon rewatch. I was like, are you on heroin? It was so low energy because it was just me. You have to have somebody do it.

Like I had my friend Avi film the other one because it's like, hey, like, hey, wake up. You got to be like, like pick up the pace or whatever. You have to be directed. So I got a call from them. They were like, hey, are you going to audition this year? What? Yeah. And I was like, I was like,

I mean, what do you, what? What? Like, do you, you're like... So you guys want me? Yeah, no, honestly, I tried, I said that in the most, like, actually humble way. I was like, what are you trying to say? She was so good. Are you gonna audition? For what? She was like... Also, can't you just rewatch the tape from last year? No. You know what the tea is.

No. That was so annoying. Because it's so hard making that video. You guys, if you Google, I'm sure you can find an audition process. I think it's worse now. Before it was like 15 runway looks, two characters, two footage of you lip syncing. And then the song, her song.

And a RuPaul song. And you had to answer all these questions about your personal life. And then halfway through the process of, as they're whittling it down, Mary, I live in Boston. I don't have a car. I don't even know if I had a license. Yeah, I did have a license, but Fina had to drive me to Connecticut to go to the psychiatrist's office to fill out a 500 question MBTI, whatever, inventory, personality inventory that determines whether or not you're a psychopath. It was- The fact that you passed it.

I knew, mom, I knew how to work this. It was like, the questions were multiple choice, and they were like, do you love apples, love to set people on fire? That's okay. You and I remember this a little differently because I found that test very tricky because the questions would be like the questions would be like I Believe in myself and you'd have to do strongly agree to strongly disagree

I'd like it'd be like I believe myself, you know, I believe that everyone generally looks out for each other Sometimes at night my soul leaves my body if you didn't pay attention, they put these crazy ones in. And then it'd be like, I love lemons. God is out to punish me. Look, they sneak them in there. Lemons are Nazis. Yeah, I mean, it's like, it's really crazy. It's crazy.

That's how some people. 500 questions. Yes, and I don't wanna talk about it, but if you Google why networks do that, there was certain instances with television programs with people coming home and harming themselves and others. Oh, wow. So that's what it's about, it's about protecting the cast.

I mean, I'm not sure how they... I'm not sure what that does that an ironclad NDA and waiver can't do, but whatever. You're the craziest person I can think of as the president. Thank you. So anything is possible. If you're crazy, you guys out there who's absolutely crazy, anything is possible. It's all open for you girl.

You can either be on Drag Race or the president of the United States. But apparently not be on Drag Race. Oh, yeah. You can't be on reality TV, but you can be the president. And in a room with people like, in a room with the people on season seven, who's the sane one? Nobody, mama. This cast is...

Jaden. Girl, Jaden. The only sane one. The emotional rock of the group. Wiping the tears through the glasses. Girl, so. Okay. I remember I auditioned.

Where were you? Okay, I was at beauty school. And I remember I was at beauty school and I got the real call. And then when I finally had a FaceTime, I don't know if they happened to you, but they FaceTimed me and recorded it to tell me I made it.

If you look up the footage, I'm in my garden level basement apartment in a blue sweater, and they say, well, we just wanted to talk to you because you're gonna be on season seven of RuPaul's Drag Race, and I started crying. Oh my gosh. Because I care too much, and I'm like, ugh.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I remember, this is so corny, I ran, screamed on the hallway to my roommate, Reed. I did it, I did it, and, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember this is so corny. I ran screamed on the hallway to my roommate, read. I did it. I did it. And we hugged and jumped up and down. And then I ran out the front door of my apartment and ran down the street smiling like a movie. I was so happy. I was so happy. And I called my mom and my mom cried. I was so happy. And then about 15 minutes went by and the gravity of what is happening Yeah, because mama that list the packing

Two weeks before I was supposed to be on drag race, maybe three weeks Oh the next day I went to beauty school clean up my locker and left gag cuz I was like I gotta go Yeah, but I kept serving tables at rock bottom. So I don't know why well that's smart though I kept my job serving till halfway through the season, I think. Smart, smart, smart. I would be working at the salon, working front desk, and people would be like, you see how I'm drag race? I'd be like, yeah, hold on a second.

Hello, Scott Free Salon. Yeah, cut and color. Of course. Yeah, Judith can see you on Sunday. I mean, when she gave me that phone call, I was like, oh, I think this is a good, this is good. Something about that. So I rushed and did a video.

It was not as good as last year, but I was like, I think this is just a formality at this point. It was, and that was the assumption and it was. And it was like, cause I think they said, she said, we loved your video last time, but you just didn't fit in. And I did not. I mean, I would have been chopped third on season six.

What I can appreciate now and watching it is they, obviously it's about talent and all that, but they have to cast people also based on who's already been cast. Yeah, yeah. It has to be diverse. It has to be different personalities. It has to be...

Yeah, it's a puzzle. Then they have to try to put the pieces together and sometimes those... It doesn't work, sometimes it does. I think on season six it worked tremendously. But like, and then yeah, the same thing. I was seated at my desktop computer when the Skype thing happened and I was like, it was so glitchy and like laggy and then I was like, holy shit. Using your neighbors in it.

Yeah. Stealing. See, I was sliping gases too. Girl. I was sliping gases too. And what, you didn't even have a computer, it was a spiral notebook opened. And you were just talking to yourself. Next to an antenna. I was like grabbing the antenna and.

With a paper, with a tin foil. Tin foil wrapped around it. Connected to the head. And I was like, I was like, are you serious? I was like, oh. I ran down the street too, but it was just to the head. And I was like, I was like, are you serious? I was like, oh. I ran down the street too, but it was just go get cigarettes. And I actually did something.

I did something unprecedented, which is not tell everyone. I told every single person. They said, don't you dare tell anyone. I told 16 people right away. They told me we've pulled people from the show because they've told too many people before they get here. So I believe that. Yeah, no, I'm joking. I didn't tell. I didn't tell. I only told maybe three. I told my parents

right away and then I had to tell the show director because I was like, you know, and I had to tell my boss. Yeah. But a lot of people didn't know. And a lot of people didn't even know about me in Boston. I was not anybody. Can I tell you, I believe that, however, I had Sophia on the YouTube channel, look out for it, or it already aired. I don't know. And I said, what was it like to work with Connie in Boston? And she said, well, she had a very strong local following, which is what I had. I wasn't booked in boots.

But when I had something, a small cult showed up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was like that, but over the course of seven years, it took that long. And it was a once a month show that I recall so fondly. And it was... Safira said that was the show where you got your rent paid. Mama, it was country. She said that that...

And also that was the show where you got your confidence back. Because after it gets chipped away on the weekends, every weekend a little bit of degradation, humiliation on The Bachelorettes. Every first Monday it's renewed. Right. And you're like, oh, I want to do drag because this is fierce. Right.

But yeah, without that Monday show, mom, I would have tried to do like law school or something. Pet detective. I don't know. Anything. Pet detective. Like anything other than drag. I believe you could be someone's pet. Yeah. Mama the packing.

Okay, so the, the packing or the drag race was, can I tell you, I'm just going to tell you guys, I spent under $500 on my drag race package. And that was the most money I could get. I was borrowing money. I was asking gays who were older than me, like I need a gown for something. It's like my bearded runway is $120 gown from Amazon.

Like I didn't even know people with nice drag. So imagine my surprise when we get there and Miss Fame exists. Baby Violet exists. And I was like, oh, there and Miss Fame exists. Violet exists. And I was like, oh, Jasmine Masters jewelry exists. I'm like, oh, you guys actually have shoes and have jewelry. Remember Jasmine had shoes and jewelry for days? Everything, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ginger had dinner plate rings, rings bigger than her hand. Yeah, Fame had micro sealed vacuum packed, hair netted, shrink-wrapped... Custom hairline wig. ...custom Swiss lace, like brand new. In packaged in a way that was, I guess I could consider surgical. Surgical, like a pope's organ transplant. I'm like, that's the level of care. A hundred percent.

And we'll get to it, but I actually think I probably had less drag and less money than most people there. I mean, I had nothing. I could probably go toe to toe with you on that because I had to borrow stuff. I had to, the Shakespeare, it's not horrible, but that Shakespeare dress I had to borrow

from Ryan Landry's husband, Scott, just flat out. I was like, can I just please, I just need something please, please please. I had nothing Victorian or Elizabethan or anything like that. I had to carry on my Abraham Lincoln top hat on the plane, which was so humiliating because the woman next to me said, are you a magician? It was so humiliating.

You said, honey, I'm about to pull a rabbit out of a hat, honey. I just shoved a nuke up my pussy. So it was, um, and then I did all the wrong things. I did all the wrong things. Tell me, tell me why. Tell me why I spend hours and hours, hours stoning nails in stoning shitty cat suits. No one's going to see, nobody's going to see, nobody's going to see. Nobody sees stones on television. Unless they're big, unless they're really big plastic stones. Even then, even then, even then.

So I would like to get into the, so that's us. I saw five suitcases. Yes. That was the limit. At the time you got five suitcases, 50 pounds each. Yes. And they, they reimbursed you. When you got there.

But it was fierce. Virgin, uh, Virgin, flew Virgin. And they reimbursed you when you got there. But it was fierce. Virgin, a Virgin, flew Virgin $150 for those five suitcases. Mama. On the way back, while my checking count is overdrawn. Cause we've all left our jobs. We've been gone for a month and a half. Nothing. I had to beg them mid season to let,

to like do a transfer at the bank because I was going in the red overdrawing every day. $535 for luggage on Delta. I couldn't pay it. I could not pay it. I had to borrow cash. I don't know how we did it. My friend gave me cash in an envelope to pay for the bags to get there.

I mean, I did not have... I had less than $100 in my bank cut when I went to drive. Nothing, zero. Yeah. I mean, I did not have, I had less than a hundred dollars in my bank cut when I went to drag. Nothing. Zero. Yeah. I cleaned myself out and also stole a lot from my store. I have to also give a shout out to my friends in Milwaukee. My friend Dan at the time, my friend Raymond, my friend Reed, my apartment moved while I was at drag race and my friends all got together. And even though I didn't talk about it, everyone knew where I was. They all got together and moved me.

So when I got back, I was already moved. That's the cuntiest thing ever. Like, shout out to Reid, Reid LaPage, and to organizing that, I mean. That is so wild. Princess behavior. But that's how gay people in your early 20s, if you all share one drag queen friend, she is baby.

A little bit. She's baby. It's like, oh, mama's that drag, like, we all, let's have a moving party on behalf of our friend who's so, you know, transsexual that they can't even bother to move their own shit. You know what I mean?

Like, Tron-sexuality. So we get, mind you, never been to Los Angeles, never left Wisconsin really. Never been to California. Fly, we get there. I got a special voice message from a certain person from Drag Race to open the season as a surprise for you.

Can we play it? No way. I worked my connections. Is it RuPaul? I would die, it's not RuPaul. Trixie and Kati, it's your mother Michelle. Ah ha ha! Season seven was amazing.

I don't give a poop what the haters gonna say because the haters gonna hate. Season seven was amazing. I don't give a poop what the haters gonna say because the haters gonna hate. Season 7 was iconic. Obviously Violet hated me that was iconic. She loves me now. I'm pretty sure. You had Miss Fame. You had Max and Max's gorgeous silver hair which I get a lot of flack for for pushing her out of her comfort zone and make it or try something else just for once. And what happened? The shakes queer challenge. And

then there was ginger minge and eggs. Then there was the tan mom. I have a lot of great memories about season seven and I loved it and I love you and I'm so proud of everything that you kids have accomplished. The reign of terror that you've just deployed out into the world. The kids love you and rightfully so, but not as much as I do. Oh, that was Audra as I do. Oh.

That was Audra McDonald. That's sweet. I'm just kidding. Patti LuPone's apology. That was so great. I got close to Michelle during Queen of the Universe. You know, because judging with her is obviously a completely different experience than being judged by her. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And she told me when I did that, because I never... You know, when we get to Drag Race, I don't really understand. It's weird because so many of us audition, but then when we get there and receive critique, we kind of don't expect it. We're flummoxed. It's like, girl, you sign up to be critiqued. Right, yeah.

But also, I think the big, the fish out of water, the shell shock is that there's no media training. You get thrown into the, you get thrown into a fishbowl that you think is freshwater. It's actually saline with blood in it. Do you remember who did our media training? No. Jacob Slane.

Oh my God, you're right. Yes! What a primer. But so when you get there, so you arrive in LA, but we didn't go to the studio. No, no. We go to another studio fresh off the plane. This wasn't even aired. And you walk into a room and who walks in with a 10 gallon hat?

Rue Raymond and Paul Raymond walks in. RuPaul walks in and you're like, so they, yeah, but we got off the plane, they take you to the studio and go, you're gonna walk in, there's gonna be someone in there. And you go, okay, great. You walk in and it's RuPaul. RuPaul and a giant cowboy sits right next to you.

Sits right next to you and asks you questions about your life. But can I be honest? I was impressed by how much she knew. She knew specific details from my audition video. Yeah, me too. She knew where I was from. And I felt, even though I was terrified,

it actually made me feel very seen. Oh my God, but we had, so then, we had to sing a fucking song in a recording studio. I've never been in a recording studio. I've never sung in my life. Right. And at one point she's like, come on white boy, find the rhythm.

And I'm doing the theme to drag you. You said, this has nothing about me being white. I'm deaf. No. No. No. No. No.

No. No. No. You said, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm up, maybe, maybe. Maybe you still had your earplugs in from the plane. You said, what? My ears haven't popped yet.

I can't do it, girl. Oh my God. But I drag you, which I thought was, like, an ominous portent of my, like, the canceled show. You want me to do the canceled show? Okay, fierce. Mm-hmm. In a Russian accent. It was so stupid. It was so weird.

And it was such a bizarre, like, introduction to that whole... It's kind of like a... And nobody ever saw this. My nightmare is that I would be high and something like that would happen to me. I would never recover. The only thing that got would be high and something like that would happen to me. I would never recover. The only thing that got me through that was like Kegels and like thinking about something else. Like I bet RuPaul was talking to me

and it was like, like I was just kinda like. I can remember her in the booth with me saying, it's a miracle. Like she was, actually her voice was incredible. And then it got hot in the studio and then I started sweating. It was just like, oh my, it was a nightmare. Well, I got Geronimo.

Oh my. And I remember RuPaul was like, well, I know that you have Native American heritage. So we gave you Geronimo. And I said- Put this feather headdress on, and then- Well, no, I said like, in my mind, I go, okay, Geronimo was a Native American war hero

whose wife and children were slaughtered in front of him. Now make your booty bow. It was like, I didn't know what to say. But I felt like, well, at least he knew that about me, so let's go for it. Yeah. Oh, God, it was wild. Can I, we have to skip ahead to...

Oh, yeah. So then... So entrances. Yeah. I'm watching this, I haven't seen this in 10 years. Oh, man, look at my nose. Can I tell you the man... Look at my nose.

Before we get started, because I know we're already 30 minutes into this. Fuck. The way I watched this show, I thought I'll just put it on one episode, you know, I'm watching whatever, I haven't seen it in so long, ha ha. So the feeling I feel watching it,

I have both hands on the wall, on the other end of the room with the TV. I have my mouth snatched open, my eyes are rolled back, it's very bird box. I'm like- I'm Evil Dead, the girl coming out of the water. Something about watching this is so creepy. Full body chills. Honestly, it's so cringe.

Full body chills. It's so weird, and there's nothing wrong with this season, but being in it ruins it. I'll watch season six or eight and have a great time. But watching us, I'm like, ooh. Or like a current season, I mean, I, I, when I watch Bosco's, but not Bosco's Drag Race. When I watch Drag Race with Bosco on it, I'm like, fierce, yeah, work, whatever.

This is not that. But I think, you know what I think it is, and this is more of an overarching kind of analysis. I think this is the season of realness. And I think that you only succeeded in this season if you were real. It wasn't about characters. It wasn't about personas. It was about being real. It was the realness. Yeah.

And that was the promo. Yeah, that was kind of the promo. That was the setup. Because season six was very character-driven and very artifice and persona, because those people were like polished and very had a point of view. Really good. Like Courtney and Bianca, fucking incredible. Nobody like that here. Nobody like Bianca. No, it was really weird.

So I remember waking up at 5.30 in the morning to get in drag for this. First day of drag race, 5 a.m. maybe, 4.30. I remember shaving, I remember the feeling of it. I remember not having any drugs. I remember the feeling of it. Yes. I remember Hotel and thinking not only do I have to be in drag but they're gonna bring all my suitcases to set with me Wait, wait. Also, do you remember when they they they they what do you call that? They metal detect us to make sure we have we're staying at the Beverly Garland Hotel. Yeah, they take away your phone everything. That's Everything that's electronic. It's

very Amish coded. No computers, no Walkmans. What is this, 1972? Yeah, take away your record player. My gramophone. Oh my God. They took away my laser disc player, everything. My hit clips. My fat back TV. So, and something you guys have to remember about Drag Race is, unless you're on camera, you spend all of your time in silence

or locked in a hotel room. Locked in a hotel room. With no phone. No phone. No computer. And I'm not a TV person. I'm really not, especially at that point, I'm like a movie watcher, or like,

I don't watch anything with commercials. Like, and so I'm not the type of person who could just veg out in front of the TV set and like, just zone out through a commercial. I had a very hard time. Very hard time. I've never been bored in my life. Very boring. But that was tough. Yeah. And walking in, I had to hold forever. You probably had to hold longer than me before you walked out onto the entrance. Hold it forever. I have such a distinct memory of standing and,

I'm not kidding, a $4 dress, a skirt over my shoulders as a cape. It's a white skirt from H&M. A camera I spray painted gold. That bang piece that isn't a bang. It's a Portuguese roll. A cheap sun hat and the only pair of shoes I own, which is a pair of white pumps.

That would get considerable screen time over the course of the season. And I remember standing and they give you a full length mirror. And I remember the PA being like, just have fun, you're going to be great. And I remember standing in my, your first time you're in a soundstage, so it's all padded walls and you see the fake walls.

And I don't know if you're me, you realize it's not even a real room. That's how new to TV I was I didn't even understand that there was a soundstage with a fake workroom in it I didn't even understand that no me neither so I hear everyone chattering and my first thought is I'm only had this thought a few times if I start running right now can I get out of this somehow my first thought was I have lied to everyone here and they're gonna find me out.

I have full body chills. I literally, it's not quite the same, but it's almost exactly the same. It's like, I made a huge mistake. I made a mistake and they're gonna get me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, this is not where I'm supposed to be. I'm not gonna succeed at this.

I'm a liar. Yeah, yeah, I'm like, I'm not this type of person. I'm not this, like, I'm something else. This is not like, it was, and it was an imposter syndrome. It was just like, it was just fear. Fear. It was pure fear. Heart racing.

And then, mind you, when you walk in the workroom, you've never seen it. And they say something abstract to you, like there's two tables, walk up to the second table. And say 10 seconds. And they said, it's longer than you think. Yes. So say your line and then model or whatever for like a full 10 seconds. And they said it's longer than you think. Yes. So say your line and then model or whatever

for like a full 10 seconds. And 10 seconds is a really long time when you have a table full of whores to your left that you can't even fucking see yet. Not to mention, your idea is, okay, there's gonna be mirrors, there's gonna be other drag queens, there's gonna be tables.

You don't even think about camera men. Nope. You walk in and there's, I'm not kidding, Five. five, six giant cameras on giant tripods with people in all black like this. And I walk in and all I can feel is the studio lights you never see and the cameras I've never seen.

The whole work room is like, who cares? All I can feel is the lights and the cameras. And I think I said, well, you came in before me, but I said, this isn't Maury Povich. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause I thought somebody as white trash as me would probably only get on television through some kind of family trauma playing out in a talk show. Yeah.

So I, I, I cringe when I hear my incorrect Russian line. Do you have a clip of it? It's the vices on Siam. Hor have a clip of it? It's, Davai, Sizon, Siem. Horrible. What is it? That means, that means, let's go season seven,

or come on season seven. It's not correct. You could have been having a medical event. We would have been like, It just doesn't work. Anyways, um, Jit.

Davai, Sizon, Siem. The accent is so bad. It's so bad. Oh, I can't. bad. It's so bad. My name is Ekaterina Petrovna Zamolchkova. But you can call me Katya. Come on, ask it. And I'm just your average run-of-the-mill

Russian bisexual transvestite hooker. I actually think it's very charming. Is this special? It's fine. I have an opinion. Violet had the absolute hands-down worst entrance out of everybody in Drag Race Herstory. And Ginger had the best one. I rewatched Violets like three times.

It's so, it is. What is it? It's so wobbly, unsure of herself, and she's like, who is it? It's like she didn't know they were running audio. She goes like this, who is it? Ooh la la la la la la la. That literally is it.

It was like, she's like, oh, who is it? Ooh la la la. It's creeped out. It's creeped, it was like, she's like, oh, who is it? Ooh, love. It's creeped out. It's creeped. It's like creepy. It was, and it was so bad. It was horrible. It was horrible.

Do you know what else I remember about this? Obviously she looked pretty great. And she was missing one Violet contact. So she had one brown eye. And I remember going, I can see your brown eye. Buy me dinner first. And she was like, click, didn't care. I think, and I don't care making fun of Violet

because she did send us this voice clip. Okay. I got Violet to send us a voice clip. You did not. Oh my God. Violet responds to a certain amount of just reach out in person. I texted her being like, can you send us a voice clip?

So this is Violet. I asked her to talk about season seven as a whole. Obviously we all know she wins. And she deserves it. Sure. Let me tell you one thing about season seven. You two bitches did not stand a chance. The only ones that really stood a chance, in my opinion, was Miss Fame. When she walked in, we all gagged. And Max. Max was a front runner in the competition. She was. People do not remember this.

And it was a weird fucking season. And I wasn't supposed to win. But I did because it was undeniable and all you other bitches sucked and can kick rocks. Put that on your little podcast. Put that on your little podcast. Put that on your little podcast. She just said, well, I mean, the more things change, the more things stay the same. She's still a cunt. You know what though? But Violet shows kindness in very, um, unconventional ways. The fact

that she took time to send us a note. I don't know if she would do that for a lot of people. No, no, no, no, no. And Violet, we do love you and watching it. I texted her being like, you are amazing. She did that. She did that girl. She did all of people. No, no, no, no, no. And Violet, we do love you and watching it, I texted her being like, you are amazing. She did that. She did that, girl. She did all of that. We're gonna get to her runway, but once she produced this episode,

I'm like, you're the best thing here. Yeah, but Ginger's, it wasn't her entry line, but it was her opening sound bite, which I adore. Ginger, I'm an overweight, asthmatic, chain-smoking cross-dresser from Orlando, Florida. That is perfect. Which, by the way, doesn't narrow you down-dresser from Orlando, Florida. That is perfect. Which by the way, doesn't narrow you down in Florida. Yeah.

That could be so many people. That is a person who knows herself. You know what I mean? She knows exactly who she is. It was very like, it was the opposite of Violet, in my opinion, because she was very seasoned. She was like, she's a workhorse. Can I say?

She was, I love that line. I look ugly. And watching Ginger, I thought, this is 10 years old, and her face looks great. She looks fucking pretty. She's got some... She's got some... Because, I mean, it's no secret that the whole season I thought she was going to win. Ginger? Yeah.

Yeah. Like, 100%. It was not... If I could bet my whole whatever... I thought she was going to win, too, for most of it. And you know what? I remember calling... We'll get to it later. But I remember calling Violet during the Hello Kitty ball.

I called it after I saw it. That's what I said. You're gonna win. That was amazing. Really? It was a complete turning point for me. I was like, she's gonna win. That was great. I wrote down some notes when I watched it. Mind you, I watched it like absurdly high. Oh, Miss Fame. Miss Fame. Okay.

Let me tell you. Before we got on, there was one, I was on Reddit. And there was one queen I was terrified of getting on. I was like, please God, don't let Ms. Fame get on. Please God, don't let Ms. Fame get on. You were threatened by me. I know I was! It was Ms. Fame. But watching it back, booboo!

She looks so booboo. That tape, that paint is not it. It's giving arts and crafty, it's giving tape on the face. She's an expert makeup artist,, that paint is not it. It's giving arts and crafty, it's giving tape on the face. She's an expert makeup artist and that face was not it. In the walk that was like, like, greetings Earth Queens, I come in peace. It's like, she, it was so awkward.

She, I watched up to season's episode six already. Her character develops in a very endearing way, but I forgot that at the beginning of the season, she's the ice queen. And, well, no, no, no. She's insufferable. You know, and honestly... A Violet was the ice queen.

She was the motormouth maybel. If you ask me now about Miss Fame, I will tell you that she is extremely nice. Oh, my God. She's chatty and delusional, but she is... She would give you the shirt off her back. She's a lovely...

She's so fucking nice. She's an angel. She is an angel. Iusional, but she is, she would give you the shirt off her back. She's a lovely, she's an angel. She is an angel. I wrote Violet's entrance line. I just also wrote, Max! Yeah. Me too. Max has not posted a picture in drag since 2018. I researched it.

Max looks amazing. I think Max is ahead of her time on season 7. Well, I said Max, gorgeous, would have slayed season 10 on. Girl. Most flawless face on Drag Race. Like, not a pore. Perfect.

Not a pore. I love the entrance with the paper. Max is from Hudson, Wisconsin. They don't talk like that there, so I don't know about that. I thought that, she was from Kensington. She's from rural Wisconsin, like me, and I'm like, hey, Drake.

But see, I think to my, like, I think just for my strength in my thesis is that she, because of the realness factor, she never gave realness. Yeah. She never gave realness, but we don't want realness from Max, because she gives such good fantasy. She really doesn't, because I'm a few episodes in now. I kept watching it thinking, is she just ahead of weird drag?

Like, she's playing chess. Her drag now, she could be on season 18 and we'd be like, 20. Tammy Brown plus Miss Fame or something. You know what I mean? She's a high concept character with super polished, she's a model. Well, the same way I probably had more makeup on than anybody had on Drag Race at that point,

she had like less. And always took forever. She... All my memories of her taking three hours to put makeup on. Mole. It was like a drone had to like geo-locate it before. It was like, it took forever. And just like wrap up entrances too,

I honestly as a viewer, now that I'm watching it, it doesn't even seem like us. It doesn't seem like you and I in this show. No. Jasmine Masters is the best thing there. Yeah, and also to come in and be like, yay! Like, I thank God. Realness.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was so real. The interviews are always hilarious. She was off camera. She's a always hilarious. She was off camera. She's a terrible actor. So Jasmine is one of the worst actors known to man. She is. But also the most entertaining person known to man.

So off camera, she, I don't think I ever like was not laughing. She's so fucking funny. She's kind of the star of it. Like personality wise, every time she talks, it's fucking funny. In the van going to and from, cracking up. Like, she was always just a delight to be near,

every single time, no matter what. So fucking funny. With her eight pack? Yeah. She's never exercised a day in her life. Eight pack in her leg. I was like, how do you, what do you do? She's like, I never exercise. Love. 40 years old! 37 or something like that.

One time, too, I was in the club with her, and she puts a napkin on top of her wine glass and stabs a straw through She said I don't want to breathe here Like people are gonna walk by and put drywall in our drink or something like what saw this lady. I always think of it. Um, I Thought just to wrap up the cast because we haven't really introduced everybody. I thought's was fabulous. Tempest has a nice strong entrance. Yeah. Pearl looks so cool to me. The black ear, the chin strap. She looked amazing.

Sup. I thought it was so strong. Yeah, it was fun. Sasha Bell. Oh, god. It's hard for me to not think of her as my top daddy who fills me up with loads, because that's how I think of her now Mary I have I have thrown coins into her only fans bucket. I will just say that right now

I have a yanked it to her big-ass bot like but and it's not obviously she's gone through some physical transformations But as a person, I just feel like bone structure wise male maturity She got so fucking like thirst magnet hot just a couple of years later. Thick daddy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's so hot. Yeah. And in this, her drag is also so. Her drag now is so specific graphic makeup, rainbow. And in this, she's really local girl.

Crunchy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Crunchy. And at this point, by the way, we are all local gals. Yes. Miss Fame was the only like nationally known one. I don't think Miss Fame had been in a gay nightclub. No. I don't think she was out. She was a YouTuber, that's it.

Yeah. Damn. So Tempest is 57 now, so she was 47 at the time. At this point, Tempest was the oldest competitor Drag Race ever had. I think she was 46 at the time of filming, 47 at the time of airing. Yes, and she had just got her leg sewn back on.

Remember, she had gone through that. Oh yeah, and she dropped about a 450 pounds. Yeah, she had just had, I almost called it a car wash. A car crash. She went through that car wash and lost her leg. Like, this whole. Jiffy Lube took the leg. Yeah, girl.

And I also wrote, this is like not ageism anyway, RuPaul is so young. You know what though? She really is young looking. She out of drag is, to me, does not, looks a little something. She's so thin. She's thin.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But we'll get to it every, in my notes on every episode. The drag is ridiculous. From the neck up at least, it was hit or miss with the gowns. Her fucking hair and makeup. The drag is ridiculous. From the neck up at least some, it was hit or miss with the gowns. Her fucking hair and makeup. The hair and makeup. Is perfection.

Girl, I was watching this. It's perfection. Sometimes the TV is in my living room and I can sit outside on the porch and I can like do a joint and watch Drag Race. And I was sitting out there watching her on the TV and I was like. She knows she looks good too.

Girl. She fucking knows it. I got like a 60,000 inch TV, which is a big old gooner. And I, yeah, I'm like, my nose is about eight and a half inches from the screen and she looks, and I'm like, cause it was Matthew. Yeah. It was Matthew. And shout out to the wonderful talents.

And it's like, I, I got to have a cigarette with him once after the show aired, but he never put her in those white loaves. I don't like the white hair. No, no. The white loaf that is she's standing in front of, you know how it looks like that sometimes? Like she's standing in front of a white loaf.

These days anyways. But she was so the makeup every time. Some of the accessories, could have used bigger earrings, but it was like the hair and makeup was actually perfect. It's actually perfect. This is, I mean, the eyebrows, the way they sculpt RuPaul's eyes, it just, this was like an era of RuPaul

where you almost want to pause the TV and get close to it. It's just unbelievable. And this was the season where she stepped, she stepped outside of her box literally like during our dance challenge the first time she showed her legs in it forever. Yeah. I was shocked to see her legs.

I was like, she's got legs. You knew she had them. Yeah. So the mini challenge. Okay. So the mini challenge is... Blowing our wads. I couldn't believe it.

So most seasons you're like, all right, they're gonna dump me in a tank, I'm gonna ride a rodeo, whatever. They make us do a spring and fall fashion runway presentation. By the way, me at 23 from Wisconsin Googling what is Bryant Park. I was like, me, when they said that,

I was like, two of my fucking best, well, one of my best looks, I'm gonna blow in a mini challenge, you fucks. I couldn't,, I was like, two of my fucking best, well, one of my best looks. I'm gonna blow in a mini challenge, you fucks. I couldn't, I honestly was like, I didn't know what Bryant Park was. I'd never seen... Yours were so bad, I'm sorry. They were so bad.

You wanna talk about yours? No, no, my spring was bad. My fall was cunt. The fall was cool. You didn't like my sequin with the shoulders? Oh, I hated it. Oh, I liked that dress. I still buy it. But it was so brunch. Brunch? Brunch!, I like that dress. I still buy it. But it was so brunch. Brunch?

Brunch. It was like brunch drag. I mean, I didn't even have the qualifications to get booked at a brunch. It wasn't even brunch drag. It was at home. And how dare you? That yellow cat suit, while not appropriate for any runway, was still a very fierce costume. You put on your piss yellow cat suit

and your ethnic hair and walked the runway. The hair was very Moesha. I was like, who do I think, like, am I doing a black set? Can we, I do think, let's get into it, because I had some general notes. Also, when I'm walking the runway, I go, my family is Native American, so we grew up poor. Those things don't have to be together.

But I guess that's how it got together. Pearl, bitch, I'm from New York. No, you're not. Well, she had just moved there. Then say that. Yeah. Bitch, I live in New York. Well, I remember New Yorkers not liking that.

Well, because you don't, because you moved there. You're not born and bred. You say, I live in New York. But people tell me you're not a real Angelino until you see someone shit in the street. I'm like, so what? You live here one day? Baby, so I went to San Francisco one day. That makes me a San Franciscan.

I've seen three people. Three people shit in my mouth. Yeah. Jasmine, abs. Never exercised. I wrote Jasmine's look, oh my God. Um, and then, uh, Fame's red outfit is cool, but Fame really looks male. She looked male. You know, it was the strangest thing,

because I feel for me, and maybe for you, although your makeup was a little hard sometimes, like, for me, especially for me, those lights softened my features. I looked better than I looked in reality, for sure. Fame was the opposite. She looked better in reality than she did on the show, just face-wise.

Do you know what I mean? I agree. In person, I will say Fame's makeup was buttery soft. Sickening. And the hair, it was almost like Fame was on RuPaul's level hair-wise, honestly. Sometimes she surpassed Ru in terms of the quality of the coif.

And the quality of the lace. It looked like shit was growing. I had never... I was Googling Bryant Park, and I had never seen wigs like Fame's in person. No, we had brown chicken screens. All the blonde wigs came with brown plastic chicken screens. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I also wrote, Violet, oh my God, wow, she's just so much better than all of us. So I, we shared the same table. It was me and her at one table getting dressed for the mini challenge. And when she pulled out her spring outfit, I was like, Oh, Oh, well, I'm not winning, definitely not winning. This is a mini challenge. This is obviously not anywhere near her best drag. And this is miles away from my best drag. Yes. I loved it so much.

Yes. And she was such a rude con and she didn't say a word to me, but it was, um, she looked incredible. And then she scared me then it scares me now. And also responsible for probably the most memeable, memorable moment and all of the season. Also it's an actual reveal where you don't see it coming. Yes. It's not a pop court, it's not Jiffy Pop. You know what I mean?

You're not like a Jiffy Pop or trench coat. For the girls listening stuck in traffic, we're talking about when Violet had that red, like tart raccoon wing flyover. Yes, flying squirrel. And it was a true, true gag. And every fucking, the 13 premiere parties we had to go to, everybody went nuts every single time.

It was the biggest cheer I probably had of the whole season besides the winning. Yeah. Yeah. And then I have her fall looks. I just wrote in all caps, is Max just ahead of her time on Drag Race? Because I'm watching it through 2025 and being like,

this is amazing. It's so clean. It fits her perfect. And she looks different than the rest of us. Yeah, and she really was, she had a, she was unique. Unique. She was unique. There's been nobody like-

And we talk about her wearing no makeup. Could any of us get away with that? Mama, you know what though? I rescind all that, all my shit talk because she was, and it makes sense now that she was always late because she's wearing tons of makeup. That's why her fucking skin is perfect. Right.

You know what I mean? Pearl walking so slowly. Walking so slowly. The last runway walk was like almost in slow motion. It was like almost like, are you, what do you do? Is this a bit? Like is this a bit? We were gonna get to her runway,

but her reveal, her naked runway... It was like this. Yes, it was like... Slow-mo. Judge Judy, crazy. Okay, then we have... We get to the maxi challenge. Oh, well, before that, we have our first reveals

of each other out of drag. Oh, yeah. This is when we first see each other out of drag. You look like the only boy. I know. Also, I loved your teeth. I thought your teeth were... I didn't think there was anything weird about your teeth.

I thought they were nice teeth like Patricia Arquette. I didn't think I had weird teeth until I got the veneers, and then I was like, oh wow, that's quite an improvement. Yeah, and I don't mean like, oh I liked you when you were ugly. I don't mean like that kind of a compliment. I thought they were really, I don't, yeah. I mean people were fucking me.

I thought that you're, I guess I misremembered, I thought your teeth were jacked. They were not jacked. No, they're just, that's a Wisconsin billboard dazzling. Wisconsin Hollywood. Girl, Wisconsin elite. Yeah. And also I wore this is with the oldest shirt I own. This is from season seven of Drag Race. Damn, I was trying to find.

Can you believe it? It's still fit. She had a big ass then she's got a big ass now. It's a tank top that I've ripped holes in bigger and bigger as I've expanded. About my non wardrobe. Nowadays, these girls come with a with girls come with a whole boy story. Mary, I wore a golf- A storyline that evolves. A golfer hat with a pug print t-shirt?

Am I a child molester? What about your interview look? Am I an art teacher? Am I an art teacher? Am I an art teacher at a Montessori school? Gay? I think I wore a red flannel in my interview. I don't know.

Mary, I look at that and I'm like, I'm actually goth. Like that is actually my tried and true identity. Why did you do that? Ask me, I don't know. There's so many unanswerable questions from that time period. Same. Like, I just don't know.

Why did I wear a black wig five times? I don't know. Why did you do the black wig five times? I don't know. Why did you do the rest? Yeah, it's a whole thing. We get a lot to get through here. Fuck, we haven't even got to the maxi challenge. I know. Well, the maxi challenge goes quick.

It's just sewing. So basically, RuPaul tells us that we have to do a naked and afraid runway. Terrified. And we have to produce a resort look. Again, didn't know what that meant. No, I didn't either. But I didn't either, to be fair. Also, you can't Google it. You couldn't Google it. You have no research. You can't go

to the library. So then I'm no encyclopedia. I'm thinking resort like my I'm white trash. Okay. My reference of resort is like staying at Disneyland with your family. But I don't know what resort means. But we should really I want to emphasize this because you can't Google anything. No. You only have your knowledge and perhaps the specious knowledge of other people to pull from.

There's no facts. You can't check anything. People like, um, Thame would know, oh, it's flowing fabrics. It's kind of, um, in and out of the pool style clothing. It's like Paco Rabanne, 1987, spring summer. You're like, what is that? Yeah. And she knows.

So I remember everybody sewing. And I remember honestly thinking back, I'm like, this is the easiest sewing challenge to get through. It's a giant square of fabric with a head hole with gemstones hot glued instead of even doing the hem. That's all there is to this. That's what I guess the nude illusion is the hard part

because some of them had those disgusting nude bodysuits. Mary, I did not know that those existed. And when I was trying to interpret and go through all the lists, which we didn't really talk about, but the list of items you had to bring, I thought you had to be naked. Well, the judges are...

They said you're gonna blur out your bits. Was this the first season with Ross? Yeah, Santino had exited. So we have Ross and we have Kathy Griffin, and you bend over and show your actual butthole to Kathy Griffin. Well, so I had these... Your actual butthole.

No, it's not my actual butthole. I was wearing a beige thong. So I was wearing a beige thong. Oh, I thought he was your real butthole. No, but I had this fucking disgusting Godiva synthetic wig on that went down on my knees. And if you know anything about these wigs, they tangle in about 13 seconds when you take them out.

But I had these cunty, cunty boots that were like these red suede fringed platform boots. I like those. They were fabulous. And I looked fine. I was like a Russian hippie girl. It looked fine. My body was slim, up and down, pole body,

nothing to write home about. But it was safe. I was like a Russian hippie girl. It looked fine. My body was slim, up and down, pole body. Nothing to write home about. Um, but it was safe. It was safe. I'm so happy to be safe, by the way. Do you have any idea? Oh, it's... Nobody wants to be the first out.

Do you have any idea? Nobody wants to be the first out. It was the biggest bullet you dodged. You're like, oh my God. I was so happy. You didn't... You thought you were gonna be safe. No! I had no idea. No idea. I don't. Maybe... You didn't look around and thought you were gonna be safe? No, I had no idea, no idea.

I don't, maybe- You didn't look around and think that your look was better than some of the other people's looks. Miss Fame's pussy was out. Oh, maybe, yeah. Or no, was it Candy Ho's made a lovely shirt. Oh, and Tempest was horrible. Poor Tempest, that was an awful look.

Yeah, but I just was like, I don't know, I was worried, I don't know. Everybody had those body suits and I didn't have one. It was just me and Violet naked. Yeah, also I just was like, I don't know. I was worried, I don't know. Everybody had those body suits and I didn't have one. It was just me and Violet naked. Yeah, also the walkthrough, there was a clip, I watched it, RuPaul goes, you know, Tempest, when you auditioned a few years ago, you were very heavy.

Love RuPaul just breaking that, love that. Hey, former fatty. I love that. I put RuPaul looks amazing. Sasha's, Sasha Bell's black bra was so puzzling. Oh, that's right, that's right. Yeah. That was so, yeah. It's like, girl, what are you doing? Pearl's runway walk was the K-hole.

Just... It's a K-hole. So puzzling. Just like, I'm at my own pace. It's syrup. It's pills. It's like, damn. Yeah. Um, Candi just made a shirt. Candi's whole pussy is out.

Candi's was horrible. Yeah, and also she had a beard, which is tough. Max has crutches. Down at the resort on your crutches. What? For Men in Music Business Conference. She was only 19. Girl, the Mariners' apartment complex.

Like... I was in a white dress with my crutches. Why does she have crutches? Why does she have crutches? Assisted mobility devices continue to make career splashes on Drag Race, and this was sort of an early, like, wow, okay. Why? I don't know.

It doesn't make any sense. She had a story that was not told, and it would not, does not age, did not age very well. I have runway. Ru's hair and makeup is flawless, but she needs bigger earrings. Oh, tell her. Bigger earrings. RuPaul, you're the most famous drag, you're the queen of drag. You can't wear Santi Ali buttons.

You just can't. You're a fucking multi, you're a multi-fucking millionaire. Go to Tiffany's, you fucking gay bald bitch. There you go. Again, I just wrote... Swarovski. Violets is just better than us. All the ruffling. It's a coat with a hat She's the only one who constructed an actual garment that I disagree. I made a tennis outfit. Oh

That's true. What hers was the garment that you hang on a rack and put in a store But again lack of fashion knowledge resort to me meant playing tennis. No, that's fair, that's totally fair. The fact that everyone was making swimsuit cover-ups and I was over here spray painting a tennis racket being like, y'all don't know about this shit. Y'all gonna learn about these creases. Y'all gonna learn about these doll creases. I was very into capes at the time,

I was like, I'm gonna make a cape. And then it was a double reveal, they're gonna be blown away. I have leg warmers on, what the fuck am I doing? My visor is foam core. Hey, listen. No, but they're not feeling it. They're looking. But also, it is a huge shock that we get no run through.

The runway is slippery, it's fucking freezing, and the judges are two inches from you. We also learn on the first day, we learn in our first runway that there's a walk with music and a walk with no music. So when you hear the judges saying comments, it's because the second walk is silent. I totally forgot about that. So you're showing your teeth, your yellow teeth,

and then you hear the judges go like, well, so and so's got the big knuckles or whatever. And they had good puns. They did. I'm watching up, I'm caught up from season, episode one, two, five, and the puns were for Conti. They're really funny. But, oh my gosh, yeah, and also,

it's much smaller than you think than it appears on television. Much smaller, much, much smaller. And I can't stress this enough, that runway is greased steel. Oh yes, you and I are safe, which makes sense makes sense we weren't bad but we weren't that good. Oh wait Miss Fame's outfit sucks. It does. But her nude cat suit is good. It's amazing.

Yeah it's good. It's amazing. Tempest's outfit is awful. Pearl's truly sedated. Max what the hell is going on here? Ross we have a crack problem. Oh yes somebody's butt is out and he goes we have a crack problem in here. Ross, we have a crack problem. Oh, yes. Somebody's butt is out. He goes, we have a crack problem. We have a crack problem. Oh, Jasmine's cocoon. Oh, this isn't ahead of its time.

This is very... We're ahead of its time. I texted Jasmine and I said, you know, can I talk about the cocoon? And she didn't respond. Oh, but I forgot about this little chestnut. I'm sure a little tish, a little ass, a little cut cut. Rupaul, can I tell you, Jasmine explains the cocoon to Rupaul, and the longer she explains it,

the worse it gets. Like a cocoon, a little tish, a little ass, a little cut cut. It's like a butterfly, a little bit of a cocoon, because when a caterpillar turns into a butterfly, it's a cocoon. I remembered that conversation, and I was like, this woman is a fucking genius.

And RuPaul is just blanking. Like, RuPaul knows, don't interrupt. Let her keep explaining it. She's so wild, and then she's not even naked. Yeah. She's not even naked. I love her so much. Love her.

It's so amazing. Jasmine is so awesome. She's, and then I'm... Yeah, Violet looks great naked, I'm sorry. She does. She looks amazing. She does, and you know, that's a very back then conversation to have about boy body

and whatever, you know. Yeah, would never happen today. Never ever say. Also, she had curves. Fuck off. She did. I had a boy. I don't think she did.

I had, no, no, no. She had a, she had a model's skinny, skinny body. She had a little, she had a shape, she had a posture. I was up and down, no curves at all. And also we see Violet's body a lot this season. We see her naked body a lot. And it's... Episode four, cunt. If I had her body, I'd probably be naked all the time too.

Yeah. I have to say that in the bottom, we have Candy Ho and Tempest D'Jour. But also, Rue asking the girls, which queen has made the least impression on you so far? Oh, Kennedy saying me. Yeah, yeah, people saying, picking me. Kennedy, who I ended up beating in All-Stars.

Yeah, I have Trixie and Ginger being picked, but off stage. Love, not even in the room. Not even in the room. Not even in the room. I thought that was a brutal question to ask on the first fucking day. Brutal. 100%. Because that was just to instig ask on the first fucking day. Brutal.

100%. Because that was just to instigate drama. I'm not even there. And then Kennedy and I go to be finalists in All Stars. So fucking crazy. That is so wild. I forgot she said me. I was at home watching it, hi, and I go, she says Trixie.

And I was like... I was watching it with someone who never seen it and they looked over at me and I was like... I was watching with someone who never seen it and they looked over at me and they're like... I was like, I don't know. Yell at her from 10 years ago through the TV. Go ahead, I don't know what to say. And Kennedy and I are, I think, very close now. But we just had not really bonded in any way at that.

Yeah, you also not, it was oil and vinegar, or oil and water. It's just not, it's yeah. Yeah. Different. Um, my, so final thoughts, cause we're actually, I love how long we just went. I know the first one's a little long cause we had to talk about casting and stuff. Why don't we talk about the promo shoot next episode? Yeah. Yeah. I have to. So I think my controversial take and this is very controversial. It's my opinion only every lip sync on the main stage is boring. This is a bad lip sync.

No walls, stage too slippery, can't choose an outfit or a song, no props, it's a setup for failure. Contrast it with lip sync battle and it is always a flop. It's not a good lip sync, I don't love the song. No. I don't love either of them doing it. The queens don't know it. Nobody knows it.

The queens don't really know it. No. Day one for a song with don't really know it. No. Day one for a song with so many lyrics is tough. It's the end of your first day, second day of full day of filming. Your feet hurt so bad. Yeah. You've just been on the main stage,

probably standing in heels longer than you ever have in your life. You've pissed yourself. Yeah. Not joking. No, for real. And then you're supposed to turn it out to a song you don't even know, and there's no walls of support and it's slippery.

Go get the fuck out of here. Not to mention, I don't think Geronimo had come out yet. Like, I don't know. It was very bad and it was a tough, tough job for the girls. Well, we do have a voice note from our first out, The Lovely Tempest Azure, who I will say... No way, who wouldn't work these voice notes out? Well, I have to massage people.

Okay. I will say for our first out, Tempest is extremely lovable. And as a viewer watching it, I'm like, she's lovable. Drag Race really told her story and she leaves on a very positive note with like a lot of dignity.

Yeah. And I think that's impressive. Yeah, I think of the second and third outs are kind of the toughest. For sure. Yeah. First out, at least you're like, bang.

Yeah. Well, hello, Trixie and Katya. It's your great auntie Tempest Du Jour. And I'm just filled with memories of season seven that I'm going to share with you. I hope that's all right. My first impressions were interesting because I was the last one into the workroom

on our entrances. And everybody was sort of already milling around a little bit. But I remember Trixie, first of all, entrances. Oh yeah. And everybody was sort of already milling around a little bit. But I remember Trixie first of all and thinking girl that's a whole lot of face. That's some daisies and a floppy hat and some and a lot of face. That's my major first impression. And then I saw Katya and I was like okay I wonder if this bitch is really Russian. I had previously, back in the 90s, I spent two summers in Russia.

And I was familiar with the- Well, people are so interesting. The stereotype of the stone, cold, hard-ass Russian bitch, which Katya does well. Yeah, thank you. Anyway, I'm glad that I got to know them a little bit more post that first impression, because it turns out they're lovely gals.

Even though Katya hasn't returned a phone message of mine or a text in 10 years. That is absolutely not fucking true. Very, very deeply, as Nanti would. Okay, so she's gonna run us through what she was going through in mind prior to the lip sync, because this is a tough song.

Which by the way, this is a hard song, and Candy Ho can lip sync. because this is a tough song. Which, by the way, this is a hard song, and Candy Ho can lip sync. Candy Ho is a dancer, she's a buck, she is a performer. And she's like, you know, not, if you don't consider the beard, she's gorgeous. She did have a beard. Yes, she did. It was crazy.

Well, I remember her explaining to me that in Puerto Rico, it's very normal for the Puerto Rican drag queens to not do their own makeup. That's right. It's cultural. That's right. Remember, be blown away by that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is right.

Strange. When we were prepping to go on stage for that, I knew as clear as a day that I was going home. I just knew it. I was 100% sure I was going home, no matter what I did. Two, by the the way the hardest fucking Worst life song ever been on the worst song the first drag race. I'm gonna I'll hire you by that

I want to see someone else to Geronimo see how you do. I'm clearly I was gonna lose. I'm not a dancer That's not what I do. That's what candy does And so she beat me fair and square now put a mic in my hand and let's see who wins Okay Okay, she's gonna beat candy ho with the microphone Very very very very proud of Katya and Trixie And their success and I think it means a lot to a lot of people especially young people. Oh, we're going through a tunnel Okay a lot to a lot of people, especially young people. Oh, we're going through a tunnel. OK, oh, yeah, yeah.

Sort of like the permission and the evidence that they can do and be whatever they want to do and be. And I think that's super, super important and super cool. Older people, too. I hear older people talk about that a lot. Now I'm all public. Forty three. Clearly, I have. Oh, my God. You're almost her age.

Three years younger. Older baby. Ship too much because of my age. Yeah. Three years younger. Tempest, thank you so Because of my age. Yeah, three years younger. Tempest, thank you so much. Thank you so, so much. For sending a voice note. Love her.

Love, love Pink. Love Pink. I call her like once a year, because you know, she has all those exotic birds. We love to talk about birds. I love her. Yeah, and also she's got endangered wildlife that dies all the time, so. Well, she rescues. She rescues animals and she's a goddess.

And a parent. She was one of the first people to talk about being a parent on Drag Race. And also, foreshadowing the crab. Animals, you know, think about it. Okay, so next week, we are gonna touch on the promo shoot in episode two. Yeah, promo shoot in episode two, which came in that order. Okay, bye! Oh, it's Clemizoni in your ways. You're lip syncing. See you next week.

I might have a proxy. There might be someone in my place. Okay, bye. you