The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - RuPaul's Drag Race Season 7 Ep 2: "Trauma & Moby" with Trixie and Katya

Episode Date: August 5, 2025

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Look at, look at, look at it. Little, like a little flower. Wait, can I tell you? So that is a, wait, that is a jumping off point for something I want to talk about really quick right off. It's at the jump off. Yeah, it's the jump off. So not to discredit or discount or downplay that lip sync, which was legendary, of course. I'm saying this, again, supports my thesis that all lipsticks are boring as fuck.

Because the simple reveal of rose petals and a wig is like, A man on the moon. I disagree with what you're saying. Like peppermint doing... You weren't there. No, but as a viewer, I guess. As a viewer. Pepperman doing macho man.

I remember being like, this is awesome. Sweetie, some of these songs are album versions that are five minutes long. Well, the girls don't know that, that we are doing five minute version. MacArthur Park, shit like that? Think of the worst lip sings, the double sachets. That's the best footage they had. Yeah. can I be honest this we're we're doing season seven yeah neither candy ho nor nor tempest were good

no no no it's not a good lip sync no it's a bad lip sync and again I just think that it made me uncomfortable I was watching it was someone who'd never seen drag race before and I had to turn and go it's normally a little more on the ball than this yeah yeah yeah normally there's one front runner you can kind of see who's gonna win it's like trying to explain a sport that doesn't even make any set like there's so when you when you watch it with someone who is not in that world who doesn't know drag perhaps they're straight or whatever an outsider they're like what what's so good about it it's that you know what i mean like they're like what's like i don't get it well i've been watching it with someone who's never seen it and has never seen dragress at all and that's been very illuminating

yeah to see how someone else who knows none of us responds to the people yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and i'm it's fun to go what do you think's gonna happen right right if you don't know what who you who do you think's gonna win and do they like i'm i'm i'm i'm Yeah, I would love to know what people think of like... I'm watching it with someone who thinks Kennedy is the star and is the best of all of us. That's fair. I'm like watching it too and I'm like, she is.

Also, Kennedy's talking heads are... They're funny. Amazing. Yeah. No. Sorry. Next. And this is before Kennedy had invented fuck my drag.

Like, Kennedy's responsible for some of the best things on drag. She had a few, after No, Sorry, Next. She had a few zingers that have been canonized. Yeah. So today we're jumping into episodes. episode two, which is the glamazonian airways. Now, I have a lot to say about this.

Hold on. Okay, episode two. So it opens with our first post-elimination. Wait, also, we never talked about RuPaul as a baby in the first video message. Of course. Okay. That was so funny. It was so weird.

And also, in the era of drag queens being groomers, probably would never happen today. I know. But I love that RuPaul put her mouth on a naked baby. Naked baby. Also, RuPaul in, I mean, I'm sure she obviously films all these video messages at the same time. Again, the hair and the makeup.

It's amazing. It's so good. The hair especially. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. So video message from Rue, I wrote obsessed with this hair. And the episode moves so slowly.

This is what I remember, like, repoing cameras, repositioning cameras. Yes. Everything is this. It's like, it's bam, bam, bam in the workroom. But in reality, it takes for three hours. They have to use all the cameras to shoot you walking in. Then move the cameras to stand around the table. Then they have line up.

Then, ooh, girl. You go line up and all the cameras move again. And sometimes that little banter at the table gets a little long. And a little forced. And a little crusty. And you can't wait for that. Ooh, girl. Well, the top of this episode is the first mirror message, which is Tempice.

I don't even remember what it says. She said, fuck you, you white devil. Bidges, I don't know. I don't remember what she said. It was something like, keep dreaming, girl. Sorry, I'm old. I don't know, whatever it said. Yeah, I don't know.

Oh, you're never too old to dream. Talk to Freddie Krueger. Like she's slipping, by the way, you're never too old to dream. Like, she's slipping away and they're turning the machines off. Yes. She's in the iron lung. Like, she's the old lady on the back of the Titanic throwing the heart of the ocean. It's, she is being portrayed as a woman who has days left.

Hours. Hours. Like, they act like 46 is. 96. Really. Palliative. wandered demented, fully demented,

wandered off nude into the street, never heard from again. And to be fair, in drag world, I can tell you, I know more 21-year-old drag wins than I do,

51. I do. But, sweetie, in Boston, I was the youngest, and I was not young. Mary, I shaved the back

of a 65-year-old woman before I got my job. Let's take a break. Let's take a break. Moby. Well, yes. Okay, so, but before that,

we get Violet declaring that she hates. hates Michelle Vassage, which is very epic. Oh, that's a big moment, yeah. Which, if you're on a reality program competition, it's always a ballsy move to cheat out to camera and say that you hate the judge. Yeah. Smart.

I don't think it was calculated because she's just a bitch. I don't think so either. She just hates. It's like, fuck her. And I think, honestly, this is like no Tita Violet. I think that she could not believe that her body received a critique in a negative way. Because I think if you have a body like that, you're probably used to be, it's being celebrated most of the time.

Yeah. Also, she's so. wet behind the ears. She's 21. Yeah. I think she auditioned at 20. And no T. Michelle looked a mess in that episode. She really did. That outfit, I, you know, her breasts looked incredible. Yeah. But she, she's wearing so much shit and like bad beige. Well, I texted her. I said, oh, this is when you were still wearing big hair. Like big hair. And she said, I still do. I said, yeah, but I'm thinking myself, this is you in like drag queen half wig falls. Yeah, this is like, this is the tail end of tacky and going into refined. Because now she does something

much more elegant mainstream and elegant too she looks very polished this is more drag more tacky yeah sometimes it works

sometimes it and then I hated the nails in that episode but oh that's just me the first episode it's where we get Michelle going no yeah yeah yeah

the square like pink tip one yes um so Pearl says that Sasha is got Pearl says okay there's that fight between Sasha and Pearl

because Sasha's like well if you don't want to be here whatever right right right and Pearl says I'm not going to be talked down to by John Goodman in a wig which is very fierce

it's very fierce and then it cuts to Sasha Bell with you know the drag queens who are all the little ponytail to secure their wig so she's like John Goodman in a wig and it's Sasha Bell with like tiny little ponytail sticking up all over her head which is very John Goodman to have a bunch of little

ponies but okay very John Goodman and then we get I love them drag race I haven't really watched it except Pist in a so long. Yeah. This is my first time

recreationally watching drag race in a very long time. But it's still for work. But I forgot about the clip hangers of like, so and so better watch her back she'll get the chop. Yeah.

And then, and then, Rupal's Drag Race. The winner of Rupal's Drag Race wins a lifetime supply of Raven Simonier. Raven Simonier. Shout out to

Lee Dawson. She was really eating up the girls with the edits at this time. I know. I always think of her and I think of like there's a couple more

I mean they're not I just I don't know I think of RuPaul in the red dress running through the field in slow motion that's a more current one but very much so

okay we get a mini challenge this is actually kind of stupid and kind of great I love it yeah it's great also Miss Fame really surprisingly made herself look

fucking hideous insane she looked like she looked like Christopher she looks like Christopher Lloyd and Dennis the Menace I don't have She looked like the cryptkeeper. She was like really ugly.

It was amazing. Really bad. So it's a, we have goggles on and we're getting quick drag because we are going to be blown by a leaf blower. A leaf blower in the face. Very powerful. And the surprise celebrity guest is Movie. I think, honestly, I think he was on the soundstage doing something and he's friends with Rue and they were like, oh, yeah, come out. It was because it was very random.

Yes. Very random. But he was, it was interesting. I've seen Moby DJ a few times. When I first moved to L.A., I went to a party and there was a. bald guy DJ and I was like that looks like Moby and somebody next was like that is Moby I was like oh it's Moby he's very

very quiet shy nice guy very small very small very small man and I guess listen I don't want to give too much credit but anytime like straight men are willing to come fuck around with the drag queens love that yeah of course okay many of challenge fun I have Trixie I liked your old teeth well there you go I guess

do you want me to take these suckers out or what gave me the pliers put him in the jar put him in a glass of Alka-Seltzer and I also just wrote down Max accent. Every time I hear it, I know what Wisconsin sounds like. Yeah. I'm always like, wow. Yeah. So this is like something that I... An accent out of drag is something we've never seen

before. We haven't. And this is something that I've experienced with other drag queens who do a character. I don't like it. So like personally, when we're off stage, when we're backstage, when we're like off the clock, so to speak, or like we're like hanging out, wigs off, panties like out.

I don't want to hear your character voice. That's just me. Like that's That's my preference. And I went to college with Max. We did musicals together. We went to ballet together. We were in school together. And he didn't talk like that.

So I didn't know that to be honest, it's almost a little Lana Del Rey to make your real life also kind of a persona. Well, you know what? I actually had, I had thought about this. I considered very seriously pretending to be Russian. Right. For like as long as I could. Right.

Because nobody knew who I was. And I could have done it. Nobody said it would have You know what I mean? So I would have that And then I say like episode four I would have just give it up So I was watching it with someone

Who'd never seen Dregress And they turned to me and they go Out of drag He kind of talks like Judy Garland And I said I guess that's part of what the character is It's that MGM Studios Kind of thing

It's an affectation I guess at the time I didn't really understand it And now as a viewer Like Tammy Brown Yes now as a viewer I guess I'm a little more like well that's how they're talking in the interview

Yeah doesn't bother me as much When I first saw it like 10 years ago I remember being like Oh because it well it's like your friend It's like your friend that you used to like shit kick with Like kick the can and eat worms And then they go to Europe and they come back like all sophisticated Yeah that's what it kind of gives It's like mama I know you're a piece of shit

What's up with that? But Madonna does it Right Mary I spent 48 hours in Memphis And came back with a southern accent I'm not kidding It's like things happened. So then we have I guess I'm the winner of the mini challenge

and so is Ginger. Yeah. Makes no sense. I, my ultimate shame part of my ultimate shame is just a real disappointment because this is one of the few group challenges that is truly awesome. Glamazonian Airways is great. It's so good. It's so

good and it's shockingly good. It's awesome. Because there are so many bad group numbers. I mean, and really bad in Drag Race. But you know what's good about it? It harkens to Lipsinka. It's the spoken, the record scratch, in and out moments.

It's drag. It's really drag. It's not trying to be singers. It's not trying to be fucking fly girls. It's like, yes, there is choreo, lots of it. But it's a true drag ensemble number. It's a great, great number. And all of us having matching outfits is cool.

Yep. The opening ding, glamazonian airways, all of it being a plane, the music is. It's great. Glamas on quiz of the sky. Yeah. It was a lot of work. It's hard to in one day

memorize all these songs and spoken word parts. I don't have to tell you that. Who are you telling? Where did you get there? And a lip sing song that I had never heard before one time in my life.

Yeah. Yeah. It's tough time. So I'm watching the episode and honestly, is that look crazy? Whatever. So we get out there.

Yeah. Jamal Sims. Jamal Sims is the choreographer. Yep. It was, I mean... I didn't think this was hard dancing. I thought this was pretty doable. No, it was just getting the steps right.

Which was, it was a hard challenge. And fame, I remember fame and Pearl not doing well with the dancing. Mama, I think this is when Jamal Sims says... Oh, yeah. Hold on. Jamal says, her execution is so bad. Damn, Jamal. He's like, she just cannot move at all like a lady.

Damn, Jamal. Her hips don't move at all. Damn, Jamal. He read her. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. He read her.

It's pretty bad. It's, um, I have memories of us standing up there. I also remember I'm in a theater character shoe with a T-strap. Love that for me. Yeah. I said during rehearsals, our team looks unbelievably bad. Yeah. We all look bad.

Everybody is not me. Yeah. Everybody is so thin. Yeah. Girl is... Yeah, everybody's tiny. She is petite. Small skeleton.

It is petite. Small height. Small body mass. I'm also quite slight. I have hardly any muscle toes. She's very... She's tall, but she's very... So small.

And Vame is also kind of frail, too. She's very bony. I'm 170 pounds, and I'm the fattest person on your team. Thin, white, slim, up and down pole bodies. Awful. Awful. So I... And honestly, we didn't get to watch the other ones rehearse.

No. So getting to... watching it being like, oh, watching them or hers. Who's struggling, who's whatever. They are good. They're so much better than us. And there's so much better. I think that their part was maybe like a little bit better, but still both parts were good.

Their part was, if you want to stay safe. It was do, do, do, do. It was like kind of. And they had the whole tray thing, I think. Yeah. It was country. Yes. And also for having ready made outfits, they still looked fierce.

Yeah. Oh, the blouses with the skirts? Yeah. Those were great. They look great. I wish I still had mine. I kept it for a while. I don't know what I did with mine.

Thank God I wore that black wig. The black finger waves. Second time. No, not second time. That was the first time. It will come back. That black finger wave will come back. Now, had you ever worn black finger waves?

No. And what made you kind of dip into your kind of, you know, your kind of a... I think it was a dissociative identity disorder. I don't know. Because I think it was the only, like, ready-made quaff that was short, that would look like a stewardess to me. Otherwise, I don't know how to style a wig at all. To this day. Seriously.

I don't. I could not do anything. I've never even seen you brush a wig. I'm not kidding. I don't do it. I don't do my own hair at all. I don't do, I could put a wig on, I can glue it down, and that's about it. I can do a scrunchy.

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slash prime to get more out of whatever you're into. I need to speak about generational trauma. What are you talking about? Are we talking about your lip sync? Yeah. Okay. Before we get into that, we... Wait, is it...

You divvy up the parts. Is it performance first? What do you mean? Oh, we do runway later. We do... And it's an abbreviated runway. Yes. We don't do runway walks.

It's just coming out. It's an abbreviated runway, which is rare. There was two of these in the whole season. Episode 5, the Despi's, that was an abbreviated runway. We never walked. We just came out. And then this was the same thing because we were pressed for time. Sure.

Yeah. And the Despies, thank God, because as you will see, half of my dress was ripped off. That's right. Anyways. So, yeah, we never walked the runway. Do you have any idea? Like, I'm not joking. I wanted to do suicide.

Not, that's not, like, I'm not, yesterday? No, during the, in the hotel, in the hotel, I'm not being hyperbolic. After or before? Before. The night before, I slept not one minute. And I was trying to learn this monologue. I was writing it out. I've, I do, I found out very quickly that I can do monologues really well.

It just takes time. Sure. It takes time. I'm not a cram. I can't cram it in. You know, and this is not an old joke. It's easy to remember. those things when you're 21.

In drag when I was 21, I could learn a song in a couple days. Now? No, I could never could. It has to, if I'm doing a new number, you better believe it's going to be car wash. I will survive. Like, I can't learn new numbers anymore. I need about three weeks. Three weeks. I'm usually, I'm doing, I'm memorizing songs at another language. And like,

this is, I... Can I play a part of it? Yeah. Not to re-traumatize you. Great song. Hi, everybody's during this evening. Hello, welcome aboard. Welcome aboard. I'm Miss Valerie Valentine.

I'm your economist slash coach students. How have you gotten worse? How have you gotten worse at this? I still haven't. I was like, I was, I totally planned on listening. I didn't listen to it once since I talked to you the other day. It's also has a, it's also not a straight monologue. No, and also it's A-A-V-E.

The problem is not with it being inappropriate, which unfortunately nowadays it is. Oh, you are white and a black finger wave wig doing. Doing Laquisha. Because it's Laquisha. I'm sorry. It is Laquisha. We will never survive this recap. No, no, no, no, no.

No, we can say this. This is not. This is true. It's not, it's not. Because this would not happen today. It's 10 years ago. And you would have never made that choice. No.

And also, I, right. I wouldn't. But also, it would have been weird to be like, you can only the, only the black girl can do this number. I don't know, you know. Right. So we're a whole group of white girls. And I chose this number because if.

If I had hit it, I would have won. That's the thing. If I, I see what you're saying because if it's a competition and you have the first thing, that's a comedy monologue. Also, if you kill it, you get it out of the way in the beginning of the performance. And then you can just enjoy it. Enjoy it. And then really kind of just like, like, I did that. And then everybody would look at everybody else.

And then you had like, how could expect anyone to breathe? You had like two other lines. You would have been done. Yeah. I mean, I, and that was my strategy. I was like, because I was like, okay, I really need to win a challenge. because I was so, I was like, safe, okay, I don't know where I was in the pecking order. I was like, I'm in the middle.

I really need to kind of whatever. And it, when I realized at like 11 p.m. that night that I couldn't remember the first line. It was like, I was like, what is going on with my brain? It was so horrible. And I wanted to commit suicide. But you know what's crazy? The next day we go in super early, we're probably, you guys have to imagine in drag race time, we're probably doing glam zoning airways at 10 in the morning.

Yeah. Stone Cold, sober at 10 in the morning. Yeah, yeah. Twice. Twice. So you're performing. I can remember it like yesterday. Nobody can see.

You're in the front. Yeah. The rest of us are behind you doing this. Yeah. cuss of tea that's it it was a full shit your diaper and then throw the diaper in the crowd

yeah it was a poopy pants total failure twice you failed both times do you realize do you realize do you realize do you realize it's like dying it's like that guy we watched that Anna Kendrick thing choking out dying

and then being revived and then choked out again man of the hour yeah it was it was truly I mean, I'm not joking and I'm not being like... What did you feel watching it after 10 years? It was so painful. No, no, no, no, no. I didn't watch it.

I didn't watch it. Are you fucking kidding me? I can't watch it. You didn't watch it? Nope. I passed forward. I can't watch it. It's like, I don't want to want to my mother get raped.

Can I be honest? It's literally... I watched... It's literally, and I'm not joking. Maybe it makes me a whimper loser, but it's really dramatic. I watched episode four and watching dreaming. watching that lip sync, watching me lose, was surprisingly, I was like, oh, I don't like this. Yeah, I didn't like it. No, I didn't. I knew it was coming. I was like, I don't have the emotional

bandless watch. And I'm in a very good, I'm in a very good headspace yesterday today. I feel I love my life. I love you. I love everybody. I watched it with somebody who knows you. And when you started bombing, he was like, yeah. And people need to realize. I forgot how bad it was. It's like, Imagine the worst thing. And double it. And in front of RuPaul. Double it. With all the cameras.

Like, and they're expecting it. And by the way, in real drag world, if you miss a few lyrics, people are so drunk, it's dark. No one cares. Nobody cares. This is well lit. There's nine cameras. Nine cameras. It's being recorded from every angle.

There's nowhere to hide. I could have turned around and they could have caught me. You know what I mean? But can I play devil's advocate? Yeah. You had one day. You'd never heard the piece in your life. And you had to spend half the day learning choreography.

And also, I really, really tried. Like, I mean, I really, really tried. I had a notebook like this and I was like, whatever all the different ways you could learn, you could memorize something, write it down. I wrote it down in cursive. I wrote down in all caps. Like, I really, really tried.

And then I, at like, 11, 30 or 12, when I was like, I don't think this is going to stick, then I had to start learning the lip sync song. So I didn't. Wait a minute. I had never heard it before. So you started learning Twist of Fate at like midnight the night before. Yes. And I learned, I was up until 3 a.m. I was trying to learn both in bed.

And I'm not, I'm on the second floor. I can't jump. I thought about, I was like, if I was on the 13th floor, I swear to God. Do you remember this? If I was on the 16th floor, I would have killed myself. I'm not joking. I swear, and that's sad. Do you remember you were my neighbor? No. We had a joining balconies. Oh, really? We'd go out there in secret talk. Oh my God. Don't you remember you would finger me? Don't you remember you would finger me? And you don't you You want me to clean out? Do you remember you wanted it kind of rough and wild?

You wanted a shitty kitty? Do you remember that girl? Girl. Gross! I know. I was probably, by day three, it was probably that horny though. You're talking about shit.

I'm talking about suicide. Let's kidding. No, but I'm going to say it again. I'm going to reiterate. I would have killed myself. Right. If I was on the 20th floor of that building. But you didn't,

because you know what? It gets better. It gets better. It gets better. It gets better. But I, oh, God, the relief. I tell you as a viewer, it's not worth it. You doing poorly at lip syncing a song you learned yesterday is not the damnation to hell

that in the moment you probably thought it was. Girl. It was the word. Going up for the second pass of it, I was like, I was like, I've never felt this before. I've never felt this penetrating, all-encompassing, like full body shame. in like failure. I was like I've never and I've failed a lot in my life

but I've never felt like this is like this is the worst feeling I've ever felt 32 years old and it had been to that point and I was pretty bad yeah and I was like a fucking gutter bucket tweaker a lot of shitty fucking things

but this was so oh it was so humiliating but I did great I knew my lip sinks I liked my little glasses honestly looking back me and a red wig with freckles

I was like, sure, why not? With your blue contact, like, fucking freak. Like, I look crazy. But I liked our outfits. I love the song. Whoever produced the track, Glamzona Airways. Lovely. Funny.

It's great. It's funny. Maybe not jazz. The second of the other group. They were great. Jasmine is so funny. Anita Nap-Nap. There's a part where Kennedy introduces Kasha Davis.

Kasha has a sketch. Skib-Dab-Dib-Dib-B-Dub. And Kennedy walks out and says, ladies and gentlemen, Anita Napkin is her name. And Kennedy mouth. It's like, I mean, yeah, I can't. She's like making faces.

Kennedy is so fucking funny. She's so funny. Like, when you're not, I don't know, I was young and so obsessed with probably myself trying to, but now watching it this age and really just honestly wanting me to get the fuck out of the way. Because I like, I like, Kennedy is so much more. Every time Kennedy, I'm like, Kennedy is so good. Hysterical. Even, yeah, I've like, oh, I've seen me. I'm like, I sweat my way.

I hate watching me in this. I got up to episode. and now that I'm gone, I like love watching it. I'm like, yes. I'm like, oh, yes. It's like so fun. Because I love all of you and I'm sick of seeing me. Yeah, same.

Same. Also, my talking heads, 100% high drama. Every talking head I have is like, it really is now or never. It really is. And you're also out of focus because you're leaned in. You're not even in the love. light.

You're lead in and you're like, they told me they, because every note you get in the interview room and, oh, and we have to answer some questions from Twitter. Okay. Every note you get is, okay, great, say it with a little more energy. For sure. That's every note you get is like, okay, now say that again, just with a little more energy. So I'd be like, it's got to be a fucking disaster.

Like, that was me the whole time, the whole season in that art teacher jacket. I know. It's so crazy. I it's also worth saying that in the interview room we we had the same story producer yeah and that was really lovely and I'm going to say that interview room especially in that um that episode we had uh on one of our producers who's name is mish and then we had one of our camera guys who's name is sarge they were literally like my parents yeah they were like my their like my support system you know a lot of reality can be very manipulative same in drag race too but they were like

It sounds so corny, but they were so, like, it was like a cocoon of, like, warmth, and it was very, very, very, like, sanctuary-like. I remember when I cried in that room, hearing them both cry. Like, when I did bad, we all did bad. They were so, they were really there for you. You're away from your family, your boyfriend, you have no cell phone. No, you can't call. I can't call my mom. Like, hey, I'm about, I want to kill myself.

Right. And that's why you finger me. you know, to anchor you. I got to dig out this drag queen across the grip. The grip. I could dangle you off the balcony with this grip. Imagine the grip. Mom, I'm digging out some 24-year-old buck-toothed drag queen. My teeth were not buckedooth.

They were small. Not buckedooth. No, they were great, actually. They were small. I loved your teeth. Oh, fuck my teeth. You get the new teeth and everyone tells you how great your old teeth work. I know.

That's so nerve. I know, I know. So let's get to the runways. Sorry, I'm sorry, but I look amazing. You do. And I made that outfit. head to toe, not head to toe, neck to toe. You look amazing.

The hair's amazing. The hair's perfect. The face is kind. The outfit is so fucking cute. My body's right. But me and you are the only ones who thought to dress as the help. Can I tell you that actually is very insightful? Because can I say I'm going to be vulnerable.

It's crazy that you and I, in no way we're not the best dry queens there. But look at us now. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Yeah. But also, you and I are the. only people who dressed like we worked there.

Everyone else dressed like they were rich, famous people flying and you and I looked like we were serving Diet Coke's in the sky. Well, Mary, if they said Jets to Elganza, I'm like, I'm going to be the shortest. Obviously, I've never flown first class. I don't know what you're dressed to go on an airplane like. No way. This trip to California was the

first one I've had in like seven years or something. Coach. Absolutely. Virgin Atlantic. Economy. And I was giving first time flyer. I had no headphones, no book, just raw dogs. Just sit and think. You know? I didn't think twice about it.

Right. Because I was like, oh, I have this cute little retro stortis look. It'll be amazing. And then everybody's supposed to just look like they're rich. It's a lame category. Yeah. I mean, I haven't been watching Untucked, but I remember getting in a fight with people about my outfit in this untucked

because people said that I didn't look like I belonged to a plane. But then also there's that mean of all of us going. Oh, yes. What is that in a reference to? I forget. Well, this is when Jazz is. when I got in a fight. Remember, she said, well, I look like I'm going to first class. Broke down Barbie. She said, you look like you're going to a kid's birthday. And I go, I went to

your mom's birthday party. Like on television. So what? Also, that's not a dig. You could have. You could have brought her a lovely gift too. I mean, it just goes to show it's competitive and you just met three days ago. We're not friends. We don't really know each other. And she goes, well, I look like I belong in. You look like you're going to his birthday party. And there's a clip and me going, and I'm chewing my nail and I go, I went to your mom's birthday party. Like, what a cunt. And it was so fun. What a cunt.

As if I looked so good. Right. You had a you had a spaceship on your head. What the fuck was I wearing? To be fair, you didn't look like a student. You look like a Judy Jetson. I was trying to do future stewardess. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I think in my talking head, I say, in the future

you'll be able to go on a family vacation to the moon. Yeah. Or something. Whatever. Your outfit was amazing I remember there being little stones all over it that don't show up on screen No, they were huge They were SS 40 Whatever the biggest actual Swarovsky

AB you get nothing Okay so I They all came off on the untucked bench They literally all came off on the untucked couch Love Yeah so I'm They were like $10 each The stones?

Yes They were like quarter-sized Swarovskis So I'm safe Yeah I think that you're either the tops of the bottoms and you were the bottom. I wasn't untucked. So do you remember anything about that judging? Yes, I remember.

So it was Jordan Sparks. Oh, right. Jordan Sparks and Kat Dennings? Olivia Newton-John, obviously, because I did her fucking song right in front of her. So Olivia Newton-John was like, this is her. I thought Jordan was great, but I think that. I remember you guys came back to Untucked and told us that you couldn't hear talking. It was a whisper of a whisper.

I was like, thank you. I got there. It was like they said, you look so cute, but you were horrible, pretty much. And I was like, I, wouldn't you felt insane if they said you were perfect? Of course. But you know what? They didn't include, which I remember, I apologized as if I had. gunned down every one of the judge's immediate family and graped all of their cousins in front of

them. I apologized so profusely. It was kind of pathetic because I thought I had done something so unspeakably horrible on television that has never been filmed before. So they didn't include that. That's what I, when I, in All-Stars, when I bomb snatch game, I felt that bad. Yeah. I felt so embarrassed. I felt like I had pissed on something good. I reflect. did bad on the show. Well, also, I feel like I ruined a fucking perfect challenge. You didn't ruin it. I mean...

It would have been so great. Like, it would have been amazing. I forget who was the bottom three? Who was almost in the bottom? Fame? Was it fame? I think it's fame. I mean, yeah.

I think fame was almost in the bottom. Yeah. And then Sasha, obviously. Sasha Bell, it's crazy to watch her. Her runway is awful. Yeah. Her hair's awful. Her dress is awful.

She looks nothing like that now. In drag, she is a totally different thing. She really looks bad. Yeah, it's just bad. And it's you and her on the bottom. And Twist of Fate is a great song, but I also had never heard it.

I had never heard it. Luckily, it is a good song. And it is well written. And it is, it's just something about it can stick. Yes. You know, like, I mean,

and I really, really learned to try to learn it. And I just had to pull out every fucking thing I had. And I was the first one ever to do a slow split on Drag Race, I believe. Okay. Can I play part of the song quick? I think Dwayne had ever done a slow split.

Because the splits are tired, but I don't think I've read anybody would do a slow split. It's really Slay. It's a good performing song. Yes. It has momentum. Yes. It has a build. It has release.

It's a very good. And it has a great little, like, bridge. Yeah. It's country. Um, so that starts. I remember standing and watching you do the back thing. When the slow slits parted, I remember, I mean, we, the thing is, you have to remember, we don't know anything about each other. We've never, none of us have ever seen each other lip sync.

Yeah. So when someone lip syncs at the first time, it's very. Yeah. Because you get to assess their skill level. And I, so up into that point, when the music started, I was like, I'm going to kill her. You did? You knew you were going to win. I said,

I'm going to kill this girl. Like you're like in my mind. Not a lip sync in real life. Not content. I'm in a machete. No, I was like I was like, I was like, at that moment I knew I'm going to beat this bitch up. I just thought I was like, I was like, I felt so desperate and I felt so like helpless.

I was like, I'm going to destroy this young girl. Right. Like, and not like I'm going to win. I don't know. It was just like I have to stay. Like I have to stay. I can't go home. It's like not an option.

right so you really slayed yeah i think it was a good thing because then i got to show that i was good at something yeah do you know what i mean like because otherwise i kind of don't really have a lot of displayable talent the whole season same not really no like for real what i'm reminded of watching we're not very good we're no i know what i'm reminded of watching this is that you and i are not very good mid very mid very mid we're fun and we say funny things and maybe people like to be around us We're not superior drag queens. No. Like, even the challenges I won, I, so I did, I should have won maybe tan with you

and not the, the, the, the, Burrell Ginsburg. I don't know why, yeah, we'll get there. We'll get there, but I know why I won because they couldn't give Ginger 17 wins. I know. That's why. But they, if they knew how it was going to shake down, they would have made me win tan with you. Also, shout out to Kennedy Davenport's runway with the one spit curl. She was also stewardess

Yes, she wasn't. She wouldn't admit it. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, I don't think she said she was stewardess. I think that... She was like Jetsons, too. She looked like a stewardess, but I don't think she owned up to it. Well, I remember Jasmine was like, what are you dressed as? I'm like...

A stewardess. You are a self-proclaimed super fan of Kennedy Davenport who is dressed as a stewardess sitting next to you. I know, we could work for... Me and Kennedy could have worked for competing airlines at the same time. You know? Can I say Jasmine's runway was one of my favorites? It's the giant platter earrings.

Somebody as small as Jasmine and a huge wig, it's trolls too. Oh, yeah. She's got that little suit, that dynasty suit. She looks so great. Yeah. She's honestly my, her, she's like my favorite part of watching Drag Race so far. Oh, God. It's such a bummer that she got.

I know. It is such a, because, and also, like, she is probably one of the, I would say that one of the number one reasons, like, they didn't go totally insane because she really was a hoot off camera. And she did not carry the burden of, I have to do well. No, she was just there to do drag. And she was there to, she was literally herself, fucking hysterical. Everything that came out of her mouth was just so fucking funny. And so nice.

So nice. I tried to bother her for a voice note for this episode. And she'll, sometimes we text a lot and I won't hear from her and then I'll get a bunch of text from her. So I think she's a person who puts their phone down for hours at a time, which is probably good. She's living her life and she's bisexual. She is? Hell yeah. Oh, right, Guadalupe McGillicuddy.

Guadalupe McGillicuddy and almost married that bitch. She got that good yank. I mean, I'm sorry, like this is not drag race related, but that monologue, now I, if I had to lip sing that, fellas, do you like good juicy pussy? Get you, find yourself a big girl, let me tell you. I mean, that is entirely. That is better than Hamlet, better than Macbeth, better than the Declaration of Independence. That thing should be in the fucking library of Congress. As a matter of fact, Guadalupe, McGillicuddy, if you're out there, go contact me because you had some good old

juicy yank yank. I am Jasmine Masters and I have something to say. Do you like your asshole busted the wide open? Do you like your asshole just sprawled and spread it wide? If so, let me tell you how to make

that happen. Why do you want on thick boys? Because those big boys have these big cucumbers. I have seen so many big dicks on thick chubby boys than the law loud. And I know A lot of y'all, like, giving your asses bust the divide off into where you can't shit proper the next day.

You got to have a damn maxy pad in the back because you're bleeding. If you like all that, please go find you one of the big boys. I'm telling you, 40% of these big boys got the endocondas, these cucumber dicks. I had to tell one, baby, I'm not that day. I can't take all that dick. That's a lot of dick. You ain't going to try it. I ain't going to try it.

Thank you for sure of me. But I'm going to find you somebody who can take all that dick. That's too much dick I'm not that gay But if you like a lot of the big dick Go find you want them big boys They got some big old dick She's in a dressing room

Saying this And in the background There's just some drag with no wig on Putting lipstick on She's either in her car filmed at a very unflattering angle She's like She is so

I also love the meme of her Like this is before Jasmine Sprawled I had like really hit Do you remember the clip of her talking And there's gunshots out the window and she ducts. And she goes,

oh, not my name. We go to work. That bitch is so funny. Also, Taco Bell, yes, I would like to come down

and fill on an application. Thank you so much. So effortless, and I, and I, ooh. Made it to the Kardashians. And also,

do you don't taste that breath? That shit in your mouth. That fucker is so funny. Effortlessly iconic. In a world where so many people are trying to like get a catchphrase like in the books, she's just flinging a mouth.

She can't help. She can't help. She can't help. It's so natural. You can't even train somebody to have what she has, which is like real charisma. It's like Tiffany Pollard. You know what I mean? It's like she's got something that she's born with.

It's not learned. It's just natural. It's innate and it's dazzly. She's like star power. She's awesome. Yeah. But a terrible actor. And she can eat anything.

Oh, my God. And have an eight pack. Shout out to Jasmine's body. Jasmine fucking master. She's got it. She's got it. So wild. Not an exercise.

Has an exercise. a day in her fucking life. And I remember she used to tell me, girl, when I have the brunch gigs, I just put on the door of the Explorer. She would call that little Bob the door to the Explorer. And she said, I just put on lip gloss,

no, eyeshadow or nothing. I said, do you better work, bitch. Damn. And if you've never seen her do Patty, she kicks both shoes off and rolls around on the ground. Yeah, we were on tour together and she, there was a...

She rolled on the stairs. Yeah, the staircase. The staircase. She rolled on the staircase with no shoes on. It was really something. And she goes, she goes buck wild. She's amazing. Anyway, you're safe.

Congratulations. Yes, I feel very good. Were you surprised? No. You knew you ate her up. I knew I was going to win. Okay. Yeah, I just, I had an, I'm not, no offense to Sasha, but like, I had an inkling like I was like, I felt like I looked so good to.

I don't know. I didn't feel cocky. You want me to respond to that? Okay. I also thought you looked good. I feel like sounding cocky. I did not feel cocky. I didn't really feel confident.

I felt like imperative. You were great and you looked incredible. It was, this is my favorite looks of yours from the whole season. I, it's my, it was my favorite look. No. Why did I get rid of all my shitty season seven drive? Now I wish I had it. Everything.

Me too, to fans. I sold it to fans. Well, you know what the funny thing is? I sold it to some people. They have it archived. I could just buy it back. They're taking better care of it than I would have. All my All-Stars costumes, I sold, I get a rummage sale in L.A.

Yeah. It's whatever. I don't like, I don't like Horton shit. Well, listen, that's the episode. Before we go, can we talk a little bit about the promo shoot for season seven? Okay. Yes, because this was, this was a turning. point for me. It was one of the, it was absolutely the most fun I've had the whole season. I had a blast.

We didn't really go together. No, so the cast was 14 drag queens, seven of us shot in the morning and seven of a shot in the afternoon. I was in the evening. Mama. Me and Pearl. Pearl. Pearl. Perlina. Did not shave her face that morning. This was so incredible to me because my opinion of her changed so dramatically. I was like, I was like, this girl, is so hot. She's so cool. This is very strange. I'm kind of intimidated by her. She showed up looking like, who done it and ran that morning? I was like, oh,

she is weird and she didn't give a fuck. Like, she ain't gonna win, for sure. I remember her meet the queens, like her being like... She looked horrible. And by the way, I... Everybody looked horrible. With Pearl before drag race. Pearl always looked good. Yeah. So for promo, it was like, oh, what are you... Yeah, it's like,

what's the deal? It was very puzzling. But I had a blast, because that is where I shine. That format, when it's not competition. if it's just like talking head with prompts. But honestly, girl, the direction was nada. I don't want to be a hater. I'll be the hater. But I just want to talk about Madeline Ashton.

Like, the fact that in season six, there's a glitter cannon, there's a... Brupal turns into a panther. Giant Tika. Disney sets, like, jackhammers. They made Kelly Mantle look glam. Okay? How do they do it?

They had that lighting on a LaGangea with the... It was like... And then slow motion, Dary and Lake Tiddy's bouncing, jackhammering. And then we get there. You better get out the white wall. And they said, we're giving very Terry Richardson. I said, what? You're giving very grapest.

But also, it was like... As if I knew what that was. Yeah, yeah. It's like... Terry Richardson is, who's she? You know what it is? It gives that grad student trying to get their way to backstage at the gig saying, I really want to capture the texture of you out of drag.

Like, you know what I mean? That kind of like raw and real? The direction was walk to this point on the white wall and turn and pose. And it was just white walls. It was blue banisters. It was white linens. It was. It wasn't even the men of music business.

Well, they told me we want very front flash candid American apparel. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So then, but we did not choose our own outfits. Okay. I brought one and they said no. Okay. They said it's ugly.

Yeah. They consulted with us prior to, a rival and I just didn't have anything or I guess so I showed up in the styling the table the styling table and all of the options were so fucking not me I hated your outfit I hated it too and it was a jean jacket with a white beaded swimsuit a white beaded swimsuit busted jewelry and a hair was a fucking what is that hair it was a mess it was a shit it was um it was like uh tussled fucked hair like slut and that intentional? I don't know. I mean,

the result was that I was decoy the product. Thank you. At that moment. Not present. They were, so and they had hair on staff. At the girl, taking a nap under the table. So I, you know, the meet the queen, or the promo, I'm a willem impersonator. That was it.

I was like, that is a willem impersonator. That was the shit that I got. But then when the meet, the queens came out, there was a different story. To be honest, for how bad I looked at the time. I look great in that promo. The number's dress. The body's amazing.

The hair all one side is good. My makeup looks so bad, but in this particular picture, I think I look pretty good for how old that photo is. The nerve, you know what? I felt very, I felt very like, Mother, why did you do this to us? Because that horror came out and looking the best she's ever looked at her fucking Oh, yeah. Rue.

Yeah. The side fucking pony. She looked so cunt. And she did not look like a drag queen. She looked like a cunty bitch. do you know what I mean She looked cool I think she looked like a drag queen

You do I thought she looked cool Like not like glam Well she also had the rips With the boobs showing It was like a like slits She looked cool I don't really

You didn't like it It's not one of my favorite Drag Race promos at all No no no no No no I hated the promo I liked her in it though Oh sure She even the lighting was not doing her any favors

They didn't have the glimmer glass But I just thought that whole look Was so cool Do you remember how it opened? It's RuPaul and she goes, I'm just a little girl. I'm just, what is it? I'm just a simple girl with a little reality show. Love that.

Yeah, it had so much potential. It had so much. It wanted to be fierce. White walls was the craziest thing. I get it though. Everybody looked bad. But because I understand like the, Me, I'm just a humble gal with a little reality show.

And this season's queens are a pretty straightforward bunch. I'm a real. It sounds amazing. I'm getting full body chills. I'm not joking, though. But the visual element was you watch it, you're like, ugh. Also, they have us all, I say, I would say compared to other seasons, they have us saying truly combative things. Yeah.

It's like, I want to win because I'm better than you. Yeah, I'm a real, I will cut a bitch. I will shank a bitch. It's very combative. Oh, bitch. Candy. Only weaknesses are you and a beauty. Love.

I'm intimidated by these girls. Max. I'm not. Fame. Horrible actor. These ladies have nothing to hide. I want to win because I'm better than you. I got some coins to win and a nice crown to be on top of my head.

I love sweaty. They didn't mop her out. I'll trip a bitch. I'll cut up the bitch. I'll poison a bitch. We have not talked about. I'm not here to make strands. I'm just here to make strands.

I steal stuff And that's all there is to it I don't even think they show me in that promo No, you do this, you go Once There's love There's like four queens Who have no lines

And just do this I'm like someone's married and cousin That's like has to be in the family photo It was such a bad promo Because it was for well first of all The lack of like coverage Well then you cut to like Nina West standing in front of a giant mascara

While I'm being like You're ready for a shout Like where do we get that? Or like you know, riding a disco ball through Times Square. Girl. It's like where... I go to Queen of the Universe.

They put me out a giant disco ball. Yeah. It was so flagrantly like just a failure. All Stars 3 was all gold. It was so opulent. Season 7 was so corny boots. I got you beat because both of my fucking promos were shitty. I got the worst two promos of the whole fucking franchise.

All Stars 2 was horrible. Afterthought. It was nothing. No cohesion. No help. Nothing. No, no promo. We didn't have a fucking promo. We did not have a promo.

No commercial. The Queen's thing. No commercial. We didn't have one. Love it. Cunty. The best season of all stars. No promo. No cap. I think that season seven promo was just, it was the first time Hollywood disappointed me.

And it was the first time of many. But I remember being like, wow. Oh, things sure look different around here because something we're not talking about. I know we're running out of time is we also had the first non-untucked in an interior illusion's lounge. Oh, I know. They were just like, here's your curtain. We felt like. Here's your five-gallon bucket and your curtain.

Here are the scraps from the upstairs that you can gnaw on. And here's your depressive 30-minute untuck that's YouTube only. Depression. Remember the untucked beginning? It was like the last moment. It was like the end of the pee-wee documentary. It was still morose. And also, Kennedy.

falling asleep? Every day. Snoring. And it was no direction. It was just like, we're going to feel me. And it was like, only like at the latter half, I feel like I feel like I started to go a little while to have fun with it just because I was like, there's cameras on me. I should do something.

But like, it was bad. Again, it was realness. The whole thing was realness. They were going for a real behind, like real not, you know, it's a flop. It's a flop. And Untucked, being on television and being 30 minutes and directly following Drag Race, people would watch both. And it's, that's how you got to know the characters. Nobody.

And that's how you got to know the characters right away. And that's how you could help or hinder your image. You know what I mean? Like that's how your character was like, nobody got to know anybody. Yeah. Like the one with Lagantra, I feel very attacked. Wait, was that Untuck? Yes.

Untucked. Bianca, what do you do well? Quickly. Like, yeah, it's iconic. Good shit happens. Yeah, teleport us to Mars. Huh. Like, Fifi versus Willem.

Untucked. It's just, it's gold. It's reality gold. Yeah, yeah. Like, I was so, between that and the promo, I was like, what? Am I on drag race? Then why are you talking? Tatiana, come on.

It's like. Did you be whipping the lash off and hitting the ground? It's so fierce. Like, drunk, people drunk. That, can I be. honest, the one week drink every two days was one of this. Why don't you just put a spike up my dickhole? Girl, let me boof it. If I'm going to get one shot, let me put it up, you know. No champagne, no cocaine. What kind of untuck days is? Anyway, well, congratulations. It's great.

Can I say, it's crazy to think you could have gone home second. Yeah, I, uh. And I wish you would have. Well, and if it was up to me. I was talking to you, I was talking to, I was talking to, oh, Andrew. I was like, I was doing something for a gig that I have. I was like, do you realize I wouldn't be doing this right now? Because I wouldn't be this right now. I'd probably be like either dead in a ditch. What is it? Oh, a pig dead under a mattress and a drug den.

That's me. But shout it to Olivia Newton. We have a crack problem. We have a crack problem. Shangai. Shangai. It's coming up. Coming up.

We have to wrap. rap here, but I'll tell you watching drag race season seven. It doesn't even feel like we're watching us. I feel like I'm watching other people. Well, you know what, though? I am continuously surprised because I don't have great skin. I never wore a stitch makeup out of drag on this show.

And that lighting really got a girl together. Because that 32 year old man has beautiful skin. Better than it actually was. You do look young. I look young. And my lips weren't as thin and villainous as I recall. But I certainly do do the same, like, just basic

face the whole time. You look better now. Yeah. But you don't look horrible. No, no, no, no. I know, but like the lighting is great on track. Yeah, it is. And also, I wanted to mention me in the first one that my primary fear was lack of air conditioning

because that was always my thing in drag. How I hated jocks was never air conditioned. So I thought my undoing on Draggers was sure to be the lack of AC. It was 40 degrees. Yeah. Cold. Freezing. Freezing.

Okay. Well. Thank you guys. Oh, don't we have Twitter. questions i thought you said you had twitter questions there was one um so uh blada wanted to know what is the process like um filming the confessionals do we do them every day and do we do them like when is the timing of that and i can't believe that we do this we get out of drag with albulin and go right into the fucking room oh the first one ready goes right in that is

fucking crazy to me yeah like when i'm thinking about doing gigs now i d drag i look like a goblin for 36 hours. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. But we are freshly de-dragged, like, almost in a hurry. Yeah. This first time I've ever used to use al-Belaine, never used that before my life. Are you used to dish soap?

Dawn dishwashing. That's crazy. No, this was the first time I've ever de-dragged without a shower. Right. That's gross, too. Ugh. Swamp ass? After you've been tucked for six, eight hours?

10. 10? Yeah. Oh, and we did it right after. So, like, you would go do this fucking interminer. challenge or runway and then you go right in for like an hour what can i tell you in season seven we did them at the end of the day in all stars we did them before shooting i and guess who went first you the only person they knew would do it on time i would be in that interview chair at seven 30 in the

morning eight in the morning talking about things that happened yesterday baby on all stars two we did him on the weekends once so i would have to go in for four hours and describe the whole week this i actually while it was very difficult this was much more natural i prefer end of the day fresh you have all the emotions are all authentic when somebody just went home and you get to immediately go talk about it it's so exciting yeah or when you just win or something crazy happened or you whatever it's like you actually because we're not acting it's reality so like if i'm have to if i have to reproduce an authentic emotion from tuesday and it's saturday afternoon like what the fuck right so but yeah it depends on the season i know we gotta go i really will say watching you lip sync i haven't seen that lip sing is so long you really are are a beautiful woman. A good lip sinker. I used to be. You are spectacular in that lip sync.

Thank you. Like you really forget Sasha's there. I mean, I hate to say it. I was for that minute they showed. Right. Because mama, let me tell you something. That other three minutes. Also, sometimes the songs have long intros and it starts and you just are like,

for like a while. You're like, oh, shit. For a long time, I was like, oh, the bridge. Haven't even got the left. Another chorus. These old disco songs with a music. interlude where you're just twirling. Some of these tracks are like four minutes.

Yeah. Which is the, you want two and a half minutes up there. None of them are two and a half minutes. They're all three plus. I wish they would cut like a short cut of the song. I know. But they need more. They need more.

What about rap music? Girl, All Stars 3 first lip sync, Anaconda, Nikki Minaj. Oh. I hate that song. Come through a puck of a automobit. We're all trying to learn Nikki Minaj music. Like, yeah. Anyway.

Okay. Well, I hope you guys. enjoy this. We're doing this in a big batch. And what if after the first episode people like hate hearing this shit? The tough shit, Mary. Who cares? Shout out to the ran through dolls. I want to dedicate this shirt to the ran through dolls. I'd like to dedicate this shit to your mother. And, um, wait, is this to RuPaul's TikTok? Oh, my God. The cease and desist is incoming. That's actually so slay. I wish she would sell that. Yeah, she can't. I'll have a, I'll have Michi sent it to her. Um, also pouring out for Sasha Bell and pouring out for my

dignity. I wish. Canneal, I didn't get a voice note from her. I'll get it. I'll get it. But can I plug her incredible sex career? I surely have yanked it and paid for it. Last time I seen him, I was in town with him and in person. I just was like, my God. He's so handsome. So handsome. It's so nice. Yeah. And Sasha does go by Frisbee Jenkins now. Big fierce butt. Big fierce butt. Thick. Oh yeah. Thickham's. Yeah. Sasha goes by Frisbee Jenkins now. And if you go to the Instagram drag has significantly changed very different style i like a little like kiss makeup almost big drawn on shapes neon um very cool but go support the lovely frisbee jenks iowa gal yeah i will bye bye

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