The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - RuPaul's Drag Race Season 7 Ep 3: "ShakesQueer, Sewing, & Excuses" with Trixie and Katya

Episode Date: August 12, 2025

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Do you know that my new thing is to buy myself makeup on TikTok shop while I'm high? And then when it comes, I think it's PR. I'm like, I've been gifted. And then I look to check my email. Oh, there's a receipt. A Lamborghini Diablo. So what were you going to say? Remember when in my house was filled with dangerous black mold?

Oh, yeah. Today, I'm so proud to say that is not the case. And not only that, my bathroom is so fucking cunty. And do you know what I did in my bathroom yesterday? I had fucking sex with a man. Can't you wait until you get off the john? Mary, my shower is so sexually active and encouraging. A rando or like a person?

No, no, a person I know. We saw, oh, we saw the Wes Anderson movie, the Phoenician something. How was it? Fabulous. Love it. Great length. It's the Phoenician chronic? No.

It's the Phoenician. It's like situation or something like that. Yeah. Great. Michael Sarah is fucking hysterical. Love him. He's hysterical. He's so, so good.

Highly recommend it. I mean, I love Wes Anderson's movies. Yeah. I've never seen one, I don't think. Are you fucking kidding me? No. Oh, shit. We're going to get you on that game.

It's Big Lobowski, right? No. That's the Korn brothers. It's World Tenen bombs. Yes. I've never seen it. Okay, I'm going to give you three that you're going to adore. Which would I start with?

I would start with the Royal Tenet Moms. Okay. And then I would say you should watch French Dispatch maybe. Wasn't there one last year or two? There's like every other, yeah, yeah, French Dispatch was like. Can I say how I know about it? Yeah. People always tag the Trixie Motel as like accidentally West Anderson and what are

Anderson. They're wrong. That's because of the color and the structure. Well, yeah. He's a very like stylized point of view visually that's very identifiable. It's like, but sometimes it ventures into like cutesy rather than like, um, quirky, whatever. But it's a great movie. Lovely length, by the way.

About a hundred minutes. That's perfect. I know. It's fucking perfect. And we were kind of being gross. We were like one of maybe six people in the theater. I was feeling up his dick. In the movie theater? Yeah. I was feeling up on his dick. Did he know?

Yeah, yeah. He enjoyed. And then we went to my... I showed up my new house and then, or the new whatever's. We went into that shower. It got sexual so fat. Red light special. Black light, actually. No, it's not black, but it's all black and white It's so easy to have sex in there

It's cunty Right Huge bench fits five people Did you get scared of slipping in the shower? No, because I intentionally designed the floor to be non-slip Good for you Thank you

You know, I'm really happy because I remember a time Just a few months ago When this was like the bane of your life It was horrible Not to be dramatic, but it was really sucked It really fucking sucked It was unfucked it was un-fucking pleasant it was tough and it was hard to see honestly it must have been annoying for you

no it wasn't annoying for me i felt for you because i could tell you were just in a it's a lot of tough situations when it comes to your home where you actually go to when you can't go home to escape a tough situation that sucks yeah it does suck and vanderpump told me that your home was your sanctuary and i do think there's some truth to that mary my home has always been my sanctuary and talk to my parents Talk to my parents They allowed us There was like You know what human rights

Like we Privacy Was the one That was like sacred in our home We were very lucky We had like a middle class How many bathrooms you have? Two

Oh me And your home growing up Oh one and a half Five people We had one shower for five people Yeah It's intense But I had for the last

For high school I mean I shared a room With my brother Most of my life But then I had My own room For like three years sanctuary mama sanctuary parents would not walk in the door they would knock nobody would walk into

anybody's door like it was like yeah you respect their personal space and that was very very i think that's nice like in there's a film called freaky friday with lindsay lohan and um jennie le kermis thank you immediately for saying that and there's a part where she takes her door to punish her i would never do that take a teenager's door i'd move out what do i don't know watch my kid jerked I would take that door, go in the ocean and die like in the Titanic. In the Titanic. I'm really happy for you. Everything's turning around.

This, I can't wait for you to see this bathroom. We have never been invited over. Well, because it's not done. But Mama, I am so proud of this bathroom. It is very difficult to design stuff. Yeah. I have no experience doing it. And I ate this bathroom up.

And obviously, with the expert skill of these motherfucking workers, especially the tile guys, they yanked that shit right off. Yes. yanked it and the pressure I don't know where she's coming from skin ripped off I don't know I got three different options I got the waterfall the thing

and then the hose the pressure is out of control she was never like she was never like that before she stepped it up she stepped her pussy up she said this bathroom is kind I'm gonna give you all my

I'm gonna give you all my by the way give it up for this amazing shirt it's a morphine tweet that says literally fuck Trixie Mattel it's shades of tempest fuck Trixie you can get this on my website

with the blessing of morphine. I was like, can I put your tweet on a shirt? She said, yeah. And you get this all pink disco shirt too. This is really fun. I like this picture.

Shut up. So can I talk about, we're about to endure. Yes. Shakespeare. Mama, have you done your kegels and your emotional preparations?

I'll do you one better. I got a voice note. Oh my God. From who? I got in touch with the person that challenged producer who thought of it. The person,

the cunt responsible and the dicks that did this to me. No. Todd Masterson. No, Todd. Todd Masterson. That fucker. Hello, Todd.

Todd. Yeah, he's lovely. Todd reached out because we had said this week that we were going to be doing this. And Todd reached out and I, you know, I'm asking for voice notes and I am okay with people saying no. But Todd said, hey, um, just watching the pod. Did I ever tell you shakes queer was my challenge? Um, it was my bad, but great TV.

He said 48 years later and people still talk about it. And I said, well, would you feel comfortable sending a voice note? We're trying to process the trauma. And they sent one, I haven't even heard yet. So let's fucking hear it. Hi, long time listener, first time caller. So I was one of the challenge producers on season seven. Shakespeare is my fault, I guess.

But like, I didn't name it or write the scripts. They have a writing team that does all the words for stuff. But I pitched it so last minute, like, you know when you're pitching stuff like that in the very early stages of the process? We don't. I literally just pitch every thought that comes into your brain, and then you let the executives put it all together. Like, in those first meetings, you literally just spew out the dumbest panic thoughts. Right.

Spaghetti wrestling are like, what if we do Fear Factor? And they have to eat spiders. Like, it's so dumb and chaotic. And you just pitch to you can't think anymore. You run out of ideas. But I pitched it as just doing Shakespeare set in the Rupaliverse, and then the producers decided on writing original scripts. Like, I was going for a Baz Luhrman thing,

and they went Saturdays alive with it. I think it turned out so funny because it was so bad. Like, Pearl and Jasmine and even Violet were so bad in McBitch that they almost swung back into being good. I can't wait to talk about this. It all felt very Muppet-E. Like, Pearl literally moved her body like a Muppet. Like, when you watch it, it's,

So Muppets, I think it turned into this hilarious thing kind of by accident. I don't know about that. People always love to say that season seven was so bad directly to my face, which is weird. Thank you. But honestly, I think it's become the most iconic season ever. Has any other season produced so many megastars? No. Like, think about it.

Almost the entire cast of seven is still booked and blessed and super famous. Boop. That's true. for the next All-Stars reboot is to bring back just the entire cast of seven and do another season with you guys. I would do it in a heart wish. Are you kidding me?

I would do. You know Ginger would do it. Oh, I absolutely. I love you, miss you. Bye. Wait, wait. Hold on. You know Ginger would do it.

Of course you would. Mama. Not yet saying, you know, Ginger would do it. Excuse me. Hold on a second. Could I say someone, someone, someone hold my wig. Because if I would do that so fast.

If I could get three more months of preparation than everybody else and about $100,000 more dollars than everybody else, Mama, I'd walk into that fucking workroom insufferable. I would do, can I be honest? I would do it for not even that much money. If it was actually season seven. Yeah. And it would be so fun.

I want the same challenges again. Yes. Like, I just want to do it again like an obstacle course. Imagine if I bombed Giglamazonian Airways again. Love. That would be amazing. Love. That would be incredible.

I also think we should have the same elimination, same lip sync. We should do it like a play. That would be fabulous. Me and Pearl the bottom. Just do, um, we could do it in three days. No one tucked. We'd just ban, three episodes a day. We'd have to have all outfits made.

Yeah. I want the same outfit. I want the same fucking outfit. I'm gonna wear that old makeup. My black wig. I get my $35 black wig. Would you guys gag for us to just reenact season seven? It would be like, historical reenactment.

Oh my God. All the confessions are silhouettes. Oh, we all do, um, oh, like a CGI anti-aging. I have a full head of hair. Polar Express. It's the Polar Express. We have to wear units.

No, do it like uncanny valley. Of course. Filters. Like Jeff Bridges in Tron. Snapchat filters. Girl. I would love to do season seven just again.

That would be funny. That would be very funny. Also, we never got to wear white. Remember? That's right. We had an all white. We had a white category. We never got to wear.

Okay, let's get into it. So this is episode three. So we start off with Jasmine. Tired ass. horse face violet slim up and down pole body panties bitch

panties bitch I also like that there cover that ass up this is the beginning of factions forming in this season this season is young versus old which is weird because fame's not that young

no fame is my age essentially and a lot of people in the old are not old right so it's 21 or not 21 yeah that's really what the age gap is it's more like the old lady brigade is 33 year olds It's more like performers versus like models.

Well, obviously, then I'm in the right group because I was in the model group. I don't know about that. There was one clip of a, there's one clip of Jasmine going all these young skinny fashion girls, fame, violet, tricksy. And I was watching it and I was like, I was like, I'm the way of my clothes or my body, hair or makeup does not touch them. But me being grouped in, I said, fierce. country. It's so funny. The old verse young thing is like a major theme this season

that honestly in real time I did not feel but I guess in the story room that may be popped out. I never have any memories of old versus young. I didn't know because I got along with everybody. Me too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're both very, we're both very Switzerland. I didn't feel like, first of all, Violet and fame and Pearl didn't claim me. They weren't like that's our sister. Also, they didn't even like each other. Girl.

Can I tell you? Can I tell you? Violet didn't like anybody. Pearl and like anybody. Fame was up her own ass. This is the beginning of truly exposing that there are some deeply unhappy individuals in this competition. Yes. I'm not saying they're unhappy in general. I'm just saying I think Bob the Dry Queen is an example of somebody where competition brings out the best in them. Yeah.

I think the fames, the violets, me, some of us were not better in competition. I shrink. I receive. I underperform. Buckled. Yeah. I underperform. I'm not my best when it's competitive. Then, you know, fame is kind of an anxiety ball.

Violet is unable to make a friend. Unwilling. At this point. Unable, unwilling can antisocial personality disorder. Completely because, and by the way, it took me years to get to a place with Violet where I think we are friends. I'm everyone one-sided, but I think we are. Also, even like, even you could be complimenting her and she would just reject it. Completely.

I worship at the feet of Violet and I dream that she. She's my friend, but I don't know if that will ever... I don't think she is. We're a dinner, cash. We're a dinner or once a year dinner. Yeah. Why am I wearing a golfer hat and a pug print shirt? We don't, we don't know.

Where did Jazz and Masters get a loaf of bread? So, that was a fun challenge. I loved that mini challenge. It loosened us up. So the mini challenges. Grayney. We all wants us to do Soul Train, but dressed as grannies. Pearl looks amazing.

She's given Elaine Stritch with Bonieva. There's some granny chasers up in here. It's, so we're all doing a soul train. as old people. I love my makeup. You look great. Look so good. I love this makeup. Everybody looked great. I loved everybody. Old lady drag is fun. Fun. Super, super fun.

And then Kennedy, who's perfected the old lady walk. Well, that's her walk. She walks like both hips. This food nasty. This food nasty. Jasmine has a loaf of bread. Groceries. Do you know why she had a loaf of bread?

She brought her own food to Drag Race. She brought her own sauces. She told me, the girls from L.A. told me that when you go to Dragress, the food is bad. So Jasmine brought her. fucking groceries. Jasmine was that drag race called. I got to stop by Trader Joe's. Mary, you know I'm bringing my air fire to this season 7 recap. I'm bringing that little ninja.

Girl, that ninja fucks me up. Girl, get the ninja. I'm going to put some loose change in there. Eat it up. So we're doing, so train was really fun. Loose change. Girl, I love these type of mini challenges that are pointless and crazy.

It's just fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not like, it makes me think of an all-stars. Remember when you guys did the golfing? Yes. Well, you know what? It was funny though. That sucked because we were so bad. It took forever. Right. You know what was the best one?

The telenovela one in season five where they had to cry. That was so weird and fun. I wish we got to do that. You would do a good job at crying. Yeah, I would. Explain your soul train look because I forgot about how good your soul train look is. This wig, I had this wig. Okay, this wig is like, oh.

This wig is got from Dorothy's boutique. It is a center part. It's actually quite expensive. it is a wet look it was expensive excuse me it was that face it's um it is a long two two tone it's it's at my expense swamp water for most of it and then a good like two inches of blonde and it's hard wet perm perm perm it's a noodle perm it's a ramen ramen uh it is so it is so disgusting do you remember that you super glued the cigarette to your lip i don't actually that's fierce that's fierce at the time i said how'd you get the cigarette and you said you super glued

it to your lip that's so fierce i love it but um fun fact you still live like that for a long time cigarette glued to but that wig is from my an alter ego show at perestroika where i was a character called bumpy bullet bumpy bullet isn't that great let's take a break let's take a break okay McDonald, comedian, podcast host, and connoisseur of celebrity drama. And let me tell you, Amazon Prime is the unsung hero of my chaotic, passion-filled life. I use Prime for fast delivery on everything from tech gear for recording to books I swear I'll finish before the next scandal breaks. Streaming, I've bingedged enough gripping documentaries on Prime Video to consider myself an amateur detective. As you know,

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Visit Amazon.ca slash Prime to get more out of whatever you're into. I loved your Soul Train look. It was fun. The cigarette, the glasses. Also, yeah, it was just, it was fun. It was fun. It was fun. I love that.

And, you know, RuPaul loves, like, stupid. Old lady, shitty costumes. Yeah, yeah. I mean, look at her Instagram. Look at her TikTok. Annie, you got to look at her Instagram now because, or not now, whenever this air is, like, Her Annie running barefoot in a parking lot For about a half a mile

It's so good It's really fierce It's so good I Okay so then we get into the challenge Shake Square While it gets picked last again Even though she is so good in the challenges

Doesn't matter Because what's happening behind the scenes And when the cameras aren't necessarily rolling Is she continues to be a surly irascible bitch And she's so talented But like friends She has none Like, she is not yet close to anyone.

No. She's, she's, it's giving, it's giving, um, it's giving, um, what is called? A BP. But me watching. Yeah. Now that it's been 10 years, me watching, I'm like, borderline personality disorder. Oh. Yeah.

Now watching all these years later, I'm watching going, she's one of the strongest competitors. Why? It's weird that she gets picked last because she's, she's good drag queen. She's 22. She's 21. 21. I think she auditioned at 20. You know what I was doing it at 21?

I was sucking my mom as tities, breastfeeding. Yeah. So then we get to the two, this is Shake Square. It's like the bitch who stole. McBitch. It's Romeo and. It's Romeo and Juliet. And Mick Bitch.

McBitch. I receive, Max is my team leader. Which is great. She's been British for days. This is kind of perfect, right? She's been British. she got here woke up British So she picks

Catherine Hepburn I think she's a transatlantic thing going on Yes Oh this challenge is right up my alley I'm going to let the Bears know That I've got it out for them Because I'm an actress I don't know

Fetched my golf clubs Here we go So I'm in We're in separate groups I'm in Romy and Juliet Julieta Little did I know I was going to be

In the incredible stellar group Yeah And you did good I did okay I had a company I had the part you don't want in a group, which is the narrator. It's a dumb part.

It's, yeah. Can I tell you my aspirations at the beginning of this competition? I think I was so delusional that I thought I'd be there the whole time. So I thought, it's okay to just pick an easy part at the beginning. I'm not going home. Like, I was just like, give me the easy part. It was four lines. Wow.

I was clinging from episode three on. I was like fingernails on the ledge. Obviously, I was delusional because I go home next. But I was still at a point where I was like, yeah, give me the part with two lines. I don't care if I blend in. Because to me, I'm going to win the next five challenges. I just thought there were so many people there that I was like, I won't mess up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I won't win. Yeah. So I just did it. And I can't explain that outfit. Max borrowed me that gray wig. Oh, you looked kind of bad. Yeah, it's a blue. It's very, like, Renaissance.

But don't you remember this? We were told in our list of runway looks to bring a Shakespeare look. I thought it was going to be a runway. We all brought runway looks. Yes. then it comes up to be a shitty comedy challenge and mary me and violet's outfits turned out to be reveals it's not a reveal outfit yeah like my reveal was so clunky and in labored because it wasn't a reveal outfit right like it was unfair anyways so here's what i'll tell you that i remember i remember

my group doing their thing i don't remember anything about doing this this is what i remember out shakespeare because again i didn't get to watch you guys so your trauma is not my trauma Your tea is valid. Your tea is valid. I remember Pearl walking in. I think our group went first. Yeah. Pearl walked in after hers.

And I go, how was it? And she takes off her wig and she goes, I'm lip syncing. She goes, I know I am. Fuck. I know I am. And I went, no. Like, there's no way you guys were that bad. I remember thinking, there's no way you guys were that bad.

And then when I watched it, why don't you tell me what it was like doing it? So here's the thing about scripted challenges, I think, in general. And in this case, in particular, especially, they are rotten. Performed by, let's say, fucking Jane Krakowski couldn't make this funny. Do you know what I mean? Like, Tina Faye couldn't make this funny. Like, it's just not funny. It's bad.

Charlie Hides could make it funny. Like, nobody could make this funny. Meg Stalter couldn't even fucking wear this material. She could. She would ad lib. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's just bad.

So there's that. Plus, the fact that we're not good actors, none of us. And Kennedy is a horrible team leader. We just go off on our own to like... Excuse me. First, there's two parts. And then they switch it. They switch, yeah.

Because Violet is going to play Vesquisha. Vescia? Vesquisha. And Kennedy turns to Violet and says, I need you to be more ghetto. I mean, this is, this is team. from a long time ago. Yeah. So what you saw, the awkwardness, the terror, it was worse. It was so much worse than what

you see on television. Because of course, this is over the course of like 45 minutes. Yes. And this is, it is a train wreck. I am mid to middling forgettable. I'm absolutely forgettable. But you know what I'm thinking? Oh, thank God I'm not going home. Right. Because everybody sucks so bad. And I'm, I'm like, see. Like a level. But you're the best in the group. But I'm not, but forgettable.

Like, like, I mean, we are all bad. It's just varying shades of, it's from forgettable to preposterous. Yeah. But that's how I was too.

Like in my group. Yeah. I think Max and I believe it's Max and Ginger in love. Mm-hmm. Right? Max and Ginger are in love. And it's Romeo and Juliet. They die.

Yeah. Whatever. And my note watching this was, I'm just not in it. Which means I either did nothing wrong and nothing good. Mary, same. I'm a set piece. I'm not even in it. Girl, I'm not even in it. I think I maybe do one line and I die. It's, and I struggle to take off my skirt. They pan away from me. Yeah. It's bad. It was like, it was very forgettable. But girl, poor Jasmine, this was hard. This was like, because it was just, poor Jasmine. Yeah. It was like, it was never, like, asking a person to rock climb with no legs. Like, it was like, it was like, it was like,

It's not going to happen. Well, first of all, they're not funny lines, but second of all, they're written to pretend to be heightened language, which syntax-wise is all mixed up. It's not a normal sentence. No, and also, it's not great. It's like they don't try to do iambic pentameter or whatever the fuck. It's like, it could have been more Shakespearean. Because even at Michelle explains the line, Laquisha Kiana, and it still doesn't sound good, correct.

Right. Do you know what I mean? No, totally. So, and then in my group, you have Jaden who hits a wall. She's messing up the words. And Jaden starts crying. And you guys, if you guys can meet Jaden Doer Fierce. Oh, she's the most lovely person in the world.

That's one of the maybe last person you want to see cry. Yeah. Because she is so, like, too fucking nice. Yeah. She is so sweet. And she starts crying. And I remember her going, I just want this so bad. And then Max, a good team leader, bends down because Max is six feet taller than her.

Max gets on her knees, gets eye level, and goes, it's okay. You're going to get it. You're doing great. And then she does do great. It's fierce. Like Max actually leads her. to not be in the bottom. He was so cunty in that episode.

She really gets in there and helps her team and on your team there really was no shepherding. No. Kennedy was like, go figure it out. And by the way, Kennedy can read the phone book

and make it funny. Kennedy couldn't make that funny. Nobody did any. No, I thought Pearl. I had glasses on. I thought Pearl was amazing. Like I,

she was unintentionally hilarious. Her hitting her head. She bumped in it. She bumped and then ducks and looks at it. cheerleader she was like hey

cheerleader tryouts happen today yeah it's just a wild it was also her outfit like I know she was supposed to be kind of like a night

female gym teacher perhaps a little lesbian you know what I mean I thought that suggested it was a a lot of the drag race comedy challenges have one female character

who's like hey you know the Leah Delaria yeah of the skit and I thought she was trying to do that really all there was was a unibrow? I don't remember.

There's a unibrow. She was like, hey. Oh, no, she was like, tragic. It's really so much. I thought she was funny, and I thought she was funny. I mean, it was bad, but at least it was funny bad. This, it was not comfortable. It was really, really bad to have to endure.

Yeah, can we play a part of it? Here in Tuckahoe, it's the season of the witch. That's candy. as lady McBitch Friends, drag queens hunting men I got something to say cheerleading triots

are happening today But honestly Now I love it I think Pearl's great in this I really do Now I love it like it's not good But it is good And this is Jasmine

Watch out sisters I'm the real prima don't Here cheerleaders Is gonna be me Laquisha Kiana That's right Girl not on tonight This is so not your gig

I'm Lady McBitch and you're a pig and a wig Whoop Hey, Hogwarts Rejects what's your prediction?

If I'm not here cheerleader is truly fan fiction The spirit has spoken I'm not even in it No, no,

I think you eventually Oh, here's another Pearl part We gotta just see Pearl. Yeah. Your engines May the best

Tuckahoe win Oh, your reveal was just so bad. It looked like someone pantsed you clunky. Because it's not a reveal

And the outfit that underneath it is not better Mary, it's not a reveal It's not a reveal. It's not a reveal. Oh sisters I'm stressed. If I don't win I may die Try this, it'll help. That is really something. I have one shitty line that is so forgettable And then I drop dead.

Yeah. Talk about disappearing. In a world of charisma, uniqueness, talent and nerve two rival drag houses that's gonna get on they swir damn what do you do

that did not sound like you at the beginning whatsoever I don't think much of it sound like me damn shit fuck wow Laquisha I mean now of course it is edited to enhance the awkwardness they include dead air

do you know what I mean yeah like they include the dead air in the final edit which of course you wouldn't be doing if you were trying to make it look as good as possible. Yeah. If yourself banished, if you hang with this flus, what did you say? Rupologize trolls. Calm down, Beyonce.

Or I'll clock those bad. Everything about this is bad. Everything about this is bad. It's bad. It is like, you know, Rupal was like, she literally goes like this. This is where Michelle says cue the snipers. She wants you all to be shot. Yeah.

She's like, you're so bad. You should be dead. It's assassinated. It's just so bad. The set was whatever. The script wasn't funny. The script was so bad. The Shakespeare rhythm of it made the jokes not like permissible to the ear.

I didn't get it at all. No. And also it's all delivered at a low like it's done that like there was no rhythm. It was just like it just, it was just really fucking bad. It was really fucking bad. It was really fucking bad. And then it was thank God. I think that it's the success of this episode is.

that it was so bad. Otherwise, imagine if we just killed it, it would have been so fucking boring. It's really bad. Because it would not have been funny. It's not funny now. I mean, it's really tough. No, you know what I mean? No, even if it was performed well, that material would not be funny. Yeah, it's, it's, it's dramatic. There'd be no drama there. Episode would be flat as hell. Did you, did you know, you knew you guys were in the bottom? Yeah. Without seeing ours. It was, I mean, Rupal was saying in the seven years of doing, said in the seven seasons of doing the show, never seen a car crash like this. I think it's the challenge.

She said more like that. She was like, this is the worst thing I've ever seen in my whole life as a, it was like, oh, like, not exactly encouraging words. But like Kennedy, for example, Kennedy excels anytime there's a character. Yeah. So you're telling me that it's Kennedy's fault, this isn't funny. I don't believe it. You know, no, team leader.

It's Ginger's fault. This isn't funny. Like, team leader. I guess. Oh, yeah, because she has no leadership. Kennedy has to lip sink in this. Jasmine, yeah. No leadership.

And I think it was... That's... Yeah, it's tough. Also, her bearded... I think that's unfair. I don't know. Well, her bearded runway was fucking awful. Kennedy's...

Oh, yeah. It was the worst beard on the... Well, Jasmine and her had the... To be honest, I think we're going to get to the runways. Can we go to the runways? Okay, so this was like, again, this is all edited. This was 45 minutes of this. Right.

So I, my heart broke. for Jasmine because it was painful. Right. Like she just couldn't get it. And trying like 10, 12 times. Yeah. And like when you can't get it, you, I don't know if you have ever experienced that. We're like, oh, it gets worse.

It gets worse. You need to take a break. Yeah. And you need to take 15 minutes or something. I think any creative person will tell you sometimes just taking a lap, you come back and you can do it. Yes. Absolutely. We just, I will go aside and have a cigarette and then like take a,

beat and then you can just kind of start again. Yes. That was not, you were on the spot. Smoking was a huge part of Season 7 of Drag Race. So I came into Drag Race, a non-smoker. I had to quit for a year and a half. Immediately started smoking because of the stress. Well, Ginger can

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It is a dog show for the most part. Let's get into it. I think there are some strong ones. I love pearls. The red beard was so cool. Super creative. And also on the fly, she came up with that the morning. She came in and cut the little red pieces up and glued it on her face that day.

She had no bearded runway plant. Also, we had, was it cat denning to Melby? Yeah. Melby. Now, this is something I'm pretty, and I've said this a million times, I know, but I will always cherish hearing this from Mel B to Violet. Your hair and your beard, they're just ugly. I fucking ate They didn't like her

I loved Violet's runway I thought it was exquisite Violet had this really cool Like going to homecoming It was a Dior like classic 50s Silhouette So cool Gorgeous

And I loved her beard She looked so pretty Mel B was not eating any of it I don't think Violet misses On the runway this whole season Not once Uh I

I don't think so What was the previous one What was the Where was your glamazonian one? Oh, it was the body suit With the suitcase with bullets Okay, I guess I didn't like that That was her miss

It also looked like French fries It did Yeah, it was not a good one It looked like French fries Yeah I wish it was That'd be fierce I don't turn up for guns

But I turn up for French fries Oh, I have again Rue's fucking hair and makeup Literal perfection Yeah, it's very impressive What a great outfit to scream at the girls Yeah I don't know about the

The cape and the the green The parachuting fabric I kind of like it It was interesting It wasn't a huge win for me But that top

I mean the white The ponytail The ponytail is so fierce Yeah She screamed at us Yeah So before we get to the screaming I also want to talk

About your runway Was Abraham Lincoln I thought I killed that I thought I killed it I mean it could have been It would It would have been nice If it was a lady's jacket

In a little more shape But Mel B said You're literal perfection To me I like you I liked it. Yeah, I thought it was like clever and fun. Nice concept. Yeah, I had a, Mary, I had a concept. Yeah, you killed it. Half of the people. Smooth killed it. Half of the people just went in a shitty gown in a bad beard. That really disturbed me. So, I take super mega umbrage with gingers. I couldn't believe how ugly her dress was. It was a shitty corset with not even, not singed, with nasty plastic giant kids stones.

Awful. Ugly fucking gown. With the beard. You know what it gives the, this is me, Pride Performance. Oh, I don't even know what that is. The Bearded Queen from Greatest Showman, the girls love to do that for pride. I hated that. Who else did I hate? Oh, I loved Miss Fames, the Harlequin.

See, I actually, so this is, I hated it. Little part, red waves. I hated it. Oh, I loved it. Yeah, I thought it was one of her real, I hated it for some reason. Well, I loved that we'd have different opinions on that. But no, can I tell you, one of the things I've realized

watching this as a viewer is what makes drag race fun is that people, you sit at a table, you all watch it. Everybody can have completely different opinions. Yeah, I know it's kind of, I love it. But not in a way where people scream at each other. No. It's just like, really?

You like that? Okay, ugly. You know? Yeah. But the big, like, I mean, do you remember, like, the dress that's going to cure AIDS that's going to solve hunger? Oh, this is just being like, I'm about to let RuPaul see the best dress that's ever been worn on the stage of RuPaul's drag race. And it was a nice dress. It was a dress.

It kept building. She kept talking about. She's like, I would be surprised if I get saved because of this dress. I would be surprised if I cure AIDS because of this dress. I was like. No, it was wild. The thing is, if she had just worn it, they would have been like, this is a really nice dress. Yeah, but she treated it like, well, it's the Hope Diamond.

Yeah, it's Princess, the Revenge dress with the Hope Diamond, plus the shroud of Turin. Not to mention, Jasmine Lovey, but the charcoal eye shadow on the face instead of hair. I'm 37 years old. I know my skin. This was a tough moment for me to listen to on the runway. She, her explanation for her underperformance with the, it was so. tough to listen to. She's like, I'm not putting nothing on my, like, I was like,

oh, shit. It's like you're on drag race. See, I to this point have never been up for critiques. So I've never heard any of this. I'm only an untucked hanging out. So you have never had your feet hurt like that? Not until I go home. Oh my God, Mary, I'm telling you at this point,

I have only worn super fucking uncomfortable shoes. I'm talking bordello pleasers and giant stilette like five inch heels. So hammer time on the feet. Yeah. And it takes, I was shocked at how little they should.

It takes nine to ten hours to do a critique. Seriously. Every judge gets about five minutes. Yeah. For each person. And in the edit, Mary, the edit, they get, we get about 45 seconds, max, maybe 30 seconds. Yeah. Seriously.

But if it's RuPaul and four judges, they go one, and it goes one by one and they each take five minutes. And then if there's six of you, that's five minutes times five is 25 times six is hours. So you're in untucked for hours before the group even comes back. Yeah. And sometimes you go back to like if it's lunch, like you know, you break for lunch, then you come back for the rest of the critiques. The critiques are interminable. So sometimes you're breaking for lunch and you're not allowed to speak.

So you're in your drag outfit eating lunch and you can't even debrief on who's going home. You're just sitting eating. Yeah. quiet and if you speak you are silenced yeah when we went back for all stars two in the second episode ruPaul let us take off our shoes if we weren't on on camera and that was like it's such a game changer it was it's torture it's torture but if you want to take your shoes off you do have to pull out your cock and that's something that is non-negotiable that's a rule that I added on all stars three I said everyone take it out your cock yep it's cock time bring it to the cock room

and the pussy room. Okay, so let's go down the runways. I know this is going to be bored for people just listening in their cars, but... Well, what's the rose and the thorn? I loved pearls. Yeah. I thought Max looks sensational. Oh, my God.

Sensational. So cool. Max is in this sword fighting. What do you call that? Swashbuckler. Yeah. With a beard that I... It's a mustache like wario.

It's like doll, like kind of like a crazy dolly mustache. And the eye shadow is just... Black shadow and a circler on the eye. It's so cool. Max really eats the girls up. The only thing though at this point, which I, you know, still to this day, I, let's not do bits on the runway. Let's just, let's just walk the runway like fashion models.

I know I can't do it, but I can try. I know, I was like, let's not, let's just walk. Let's walk, turn, and walk. You didn't like the gun, when you, when you blew your brain out? No. I'm like, why do we, it's understood. Right. We know what happened to him.

Right. also he didn't kill himself don't make no sense that's a good point you should have asked me to come out and shoot you and i would have probably with a real gun imagine if i had orchestrated a ellen the pa i'd be like can you because you gun me down love and she takes a hucks a tomato at my face um no but i just walk just to see that walk right did you like my jesus not really sadly i think it was one of my better looks it was it was i i really loved that it was, there was a point of view. At least it was a story.

There was a story. It wasn't just like, here's my shittiest dress in the grossest beard. How did you come up with Abraham Lincoln? Abraham Lincoln. Is that how you thought of it? Yeah. I was like, who has a beard?

Abraham Lincoln. I was going to do, that was, I was going to do a sexy Santa. I was like, fuck that. Nobody did sexy Santa though. I was shocked. I would have loved that.

Red velvet, cunty gown? Are you fucking kidding me? With a sack? Like a. jeweled sack or something and it would have stood out in a good way no shit but i was worried that everybody was going to do that yeah i know i'm not kidding i was like sexy santa i'm surprised that was the only biblical figure to be honest yeah it was a startling lack of imagination in that runway yeah because me you me you max um pearl like just maybe a few i have a trauma memory of this gold

gown i had on for that because the zipper broke amazon and while in drag before the runway, I installed a white zipper. And then once I zipped it up, took the gold spray can and sprayed the zipper gold. That's fierce. But it was in the full, in the beard with the Jesus hair on. That is a lot of hair. It was a lot of hair. It was scary.

Candy hose look was insane. How did she have the cube on her head? She had a cube, a yaki cube, and then a foo man chew, long, long, long. It was very strange and interesting. I liked it. I kind of liked it, too, but I'm, like, wondering if it borders on yellow face. I'm not sure. Um, because it was kind of food.

They did like, they straight up said food man chew or whatever. And I'm like, guys, she's Latin. Right. I don't know. She's Puerto Rican. She's, yeah. I thought she looked cool though. Yeah.

Um, I think really Kennedy's beard was just, just awful. And the short wig. It also, it was like scragly. It was scragly. Pubilina. Ginger Kennedy, unforgivable bad runways. My other memory of this is when we had to stop and break for lunch. eating lunch with that beard on.

The beard, I know. I had to take hair clips and clip the beard away with my face and try to eat like, I don't know, some fucking tofu chicken like. Yeah. How is the food you remember? I thought it was adequate. I just remember Kennedy walking around and she would look at the food and say this food nasty and then she would say that she went to Boston Market.

But we got it. We got it. And it was those. Nobody tells you that if you go to Drag Race, just say that you won't eat it and they'll get you whatever you want. I remember her spiel. I'm 37 years old. I don't glue a shit on my face.

My skin. I know my skin or whatever, whatever. and then RuPaul would not have it. She really yelled at us, and it was scary. We got to play the clip. It was really scary. Do you have the clip or should I play it? It was actually scary.

Well, we're going to play a clip of RuPaul screaming at you. And I'm sure this is just a clip of it. You know, FYI for all of you girls up there, I don't want to hear any goddamn excuses. Be prepared. We didn't have time to be rehearsed. Make it work. Make it work. Fucking make it happen.

I don't want to hear any goddamn excuses anymore. and then when she like it was chilling what do you think about that I think it's um can I be honest I agree with her can I be honest

yeah there's not enough time we're being asked to do so much it's such a small amount of time what do you want Mary when we haven't got to tan with you did we do tan with you no it's next

that day was ridiculous ridiculous it was asking too fucking much We had to come up with it. Here's the challenge. And a couple hours later, you're recording it. We had to rewrite a song. We had to record the fucking lyrics.

We had to develop with ourselves choreography and then learn it. And then get in drag. Then get in drag. And it was like, in one day, I was like, fuck out of here. Yeah, it was too much. It was like, fuck out of here. You were setting us up for failure. And surely enough, they all sucked.

But obviously, what it seems like, I was not on the main stage with you guys. What it seems like is RuPaul is saying that you guys. kind of reflect this is my show the quality of my show matters to me and you guys did not well then why don't you hire a union writer bitch I feel like she was saying that you guys didn't meet like the base level

of course I agree with her I think she's got a point I also think it's just too short of time it's too short of time and also mama come up with some fierce lines and we'll try to we'll learn those and also it's hard on drag race two and like a sewing thing and someone goes it looks unfinished you want to look right at him and go I started it this morning

Yeah, no shit. I sewed it this morning. Do you know how, like, you know what actual outfits take to, like, takes me days. When I was sewing for myself, I would take one day to just cut fabric. And then the next day I would sew. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, and then maybe the last day I'd do finishing.

Yeah, you could do, I mean, literally one day you could be like sketching, like sketching, sketching, sketching, design, design, cutting. The next day, you do construction and then you do like alterations. Yeah, three days. it was tough so i have very little all while talking about cancer and your dead mom and um fighting with the girls and doing your makeup and yeah so i remember the bottom being jasmine which i guess i knew i mean the beard it was she gave up and yeah and kennedy which was sad because they were instant friends yeah they had never met told druggress but they were like glued at the hip

yeah they became which they do become glued at the hip during the hello i forgot about that Loved that challenge. And it was hard to watch them. Lipsink. The song is Kylie Minogue. I was going to cancel a complete bop. I love that song. Go.

Go. When I saw Kylie and Sydney, I hope she would sing it and she didn't. She didn't know. Because it's not really, it's one of her hits. What's your favorite Kylie Minogue song? It's two hearts.

Two hearts. The lyrics really make no sense, but it's such a cunty song. I love it. Do you know the one? Of course. A new one. Love that shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I also love that. the um what is it I don't know she's got a bunch of good ones the locomotion the um

out of my way get out of my way yeah I love her yeah it's I remember when I saw her in Sydney she said she's like I'll lock to travel

and you know are she's boging all of a sudden she was like I'll think I sit and trying is my gonna stop in Sydney the locomotion and people lost her shit

yeah yeah yeah yeah she was like this is my first single that's a cover and she's saying it and people loved it 5 foot no whisper 5 foot no whisper she is tiny teeny tiny so this is when we say goodbye to jasmine

I'm so bummed about it yeah it was a bittersweet it is a tough lips thing because I knew Kennedy wasn't going anywhere yeah yeah as she gave up with the beard I did like that move that jasmine does where she crouches jumps it's the the um the cossack thing the leg strength it's fucking their knees the knees the knees also

um the uh the uh Oh, I just, the train I thought just, I just lost. I'm sorry. No, it was a good thing too. Oh, LaGongia. Don't throw it. Don't throw it away at the end. Don't throw it away at the end. That was the thing. That was the vibe. Don't throw it away at the end. And like, it's like, I don't know. I just, the bearded. To be honest, the energy, the energy being there was that she gave up. She gave up and she started packing.

Oh, I forgot about that. She started. started packing before the lipstick. She started packing the morning of elimination. Yeah. She literally just hung it up, she hung it up, which was so tough, like selfishly, because I wanted her to be there. I liked. She's so fun. Yeah. And it sucked when she left. It's weird to, for some of us who've auditioned, some people fucking seven times at that point. Yeah. It's weird to get there and pack up and be willing to go on the third episode. I know. You know, and also like, two people have gone home who wouldn't have packed early. Hell yeah. They would have fought to the end. And so That was kind of hard.

And then we left with like a big void, a huge energy left with a bunch of drips left in that workroom. Yeah. Ugh. That's kind of honestly one of the things I remember the most about season seven was a big vacant. I didn't feel like I had a bestie. No. I don't think I, not even you.

I mean, at this point, you have never seen you and I talk on camera. At this point, me and Ginger are probably pretty close. Me, ginger. And then. Well, the smoking. Smoking. Mama, you need a smoke. on drag race. That's my, if any girls out there

you get on drag race, you need to smoke them cigarettes. Get the X program, hold on. You did you get a girl and me sitting and all the fun people are smoking and I'm sitting next to Violet on a couch going so where you from? Yeah, no shit. Girl, it like, she's like, don't talk to me. Especially All-Stars, me detox and Roxy cutting up out there. We would, we're the odd trio. None of us would hang out

together really. But we just, it's all wonderful. It's wonderful unifying activity that you should not do. The X program. the X program Well you could go outside and blow bubbles Yes It's like also Why do smokers get to smoke

Can I say that was one of my issues When we stayed at the lovely Beverly Golan Hotel was I don't smoke Why don't I get to leave my room? Go Go! So I started putting a note

Under the other side I need to smoke break And I just go outside Because I'd be like Can I breathe? Yeah, do it Do candy cigarettes I'm not joking

Candy Ho What about that name? What about candy ho? You know what? You know what I like about it? It's straightforward. Candy ho. Candy ho.

She has a weird, weird, weird bite that I can't. I should have put down verbatim. It's like, I'm so sweet. I'm going to get in your mouth and your goodness taste how sweet. I was like, what? So fierce. She also, I think at this point, she has said right on my alley. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then that's the thing. It's like, oh, it's a flood. It's like sequenced dress. That's a sequence dress moment. It's sweet. Yeah. It's endearing when someone says the wrong thing without knowing it. It's sweet.

Yeah. And also, like, if maybe. me they hire English is their first language yeah also Candy was from

Puerto Rico which I did I did a cruise after Drag Race that lifted off in Puerto Rico I didn't realize how far away

it was I didn't realize how remote it was and only after drag race did I realize that Candy

came from so much further way than any of us yeah spoiler alert when Candy does go home

when there's a part where we all come back Candy stayed in her hotel room for I think two weeks waiting

to come back on drag race because they were like, we're not flying you back to Puerto Rico. Oh, my God. Whereas I got to go home to Wisconsin for a week. That's, like, unethical. I went out to dinner. I had sex with my boyfriend. Like, I was chilling.

That's shitty. I know. Sorry. That's like, there's some stuff. We don't really need to get into it. But like, it's like the baggage fees on the way home. I was like, y'all are really fucking cheap. Sorry.

Oh, I just didn't have the money. I didn't either. I did not either. It's like, but I'd, to be fair, I'd complain about it now. I'd be like, $400? Mama, but I would have known to complain about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They wouldn't not have been a shock.

Yeah. It's a little like on a normal season, when you want to go pee, they say 10-1. Oh, yeah. On an All-Star season, you're like, is somebody going to take me to pee? I know. The entitlement. These girls come back real thin with huge lips and they start bossing PAs around. Divas. Torturing those fucking P.

I love. Well, we didn't talk about the PAs. Um, fucking Katie and Ellen. Katie and Ellen. Katie and Ellen. No, they're not listening. They're probably happy they're not to fucking hear us anymore. They're probably working for a real fierce company.

Katie and Ellen were such angels and they, and Miss Fame terrorized them. She did misfit with Motor Mouth Mabel. She could never, she would never shut up. Do you also remember that Miss Fame was absolutely the last one to get ready every single time? She was,

she was, she and Max were, Fame and Max were always, and then on All Stars it was Shandala. It was till up to the hilt every day. It was Alyssa. She was like, baby, get the shoe, get the shoe. get that shoe like it was

getting cameramen because you know Alyssa has like three assistants like on the road and nobody was I mean to her credit she was electrifyingly entertaining but you know so funny fame

the how many episodes of not getting the how's your head joke how many? Well that's coming because it hasn't started yet that that comes it's an next few episodes do you think it's like what do you think that's a very

I didn't know it I didn't either I didn't know it I didn't either I've seen Elvira mistress I've seen the movie but it was like 15 years ago well I mean it's also about age like I heard that

I hear things I heard that some of these like young dry queens don't know who share is and RuPaul imagine telling RuPaul you don't know who share is do you just get slapped RuPaul just takes you outside lays you down in the parking lot backs over you a few times with the forerunner

So you want to learn about parallel parking Yeah blaring turn back time I just fucking runs the kid kids over. So you need to change your attire. Yeah. But RuPaul is also twice these people's age. Yes. And extremely culturally literate. And RuPaul loves shit

from older than what she is. Yes. She's very culturally literate. She's extremely pop culturally literate. So RuPaul's like, she's rain man with music. Rupal's like, Georgis, you don't know Marlina Dietrich? Yeah. You don't know about sheena Easton's B-Sides or 87? Like, what is wrong with you?

Like, come on. You know? Can I tell it to my heart? Tell it to my heart. Tell it to my heart. Like, who the fuck knows that song? Taylor Dane? I don't think Taylor Dane knows it either. She's, I bet when Taylor Dane is a concert, she's like, tell it to me. You don't know Samantha Fox?

She said, tell it to my car, baby. I don't know the words of the car. You're going to be a very, merry, very hot. Well, shout out to, um, Poring out for Jasmine. Jasmine, who is a working drag queen. I mean, I have this graphic saved on my phone. If you want to know what type of girl Jasmine is, the year after. drag race, she hosted a

41st birthday for herself, where she just invited any fans, and she was in Drag at Olive Garden, and she got a big table, and any fans that showed up could eat with her. Fucking A. That is the queen of a queen. She's a real bitch. She's so fun. I will text her. She always responds to me. I'll send, I'll call

her. I love that bitch. And over the years when I've invited her to do things, she's open for me. If I'm doing like a skit, she'll come be in the video. She's just very cool, but she will be stoned. That's fine. The amount of times do you, she, you know, she has probably makes up at least 45% of my go-to, if I want to kill myself, I put this YouTube video on to like flip the script of my brain.

The amount of times I've looked at, I've turned on Guadalupe McGillacutty, the, the cucumber dicks. And I, you know, everything. You don't taste that? The shit in your mind. It's like so often that she, I probably owe her a lot of money. You know what I mean? She's fantastic.

well thank you guys for the third episode let us know how this is going yeah and too late because we were doing a next week we have episode four oh god oh yeah i want a tan tan oh when miss fame says i'm gonna touch your cock it's wild it's wild i had a lot let's talk about it next week i watched it to get ready yeah it's just crazy to watch it is crazy everything about watching this is fucking crazy these i thought we did i thought comparatively We kind of slayed. The other ones were rotten. Well, next week is going to be I, I, I spoofed.

There it is. Can I be honest? I love season seven as a cast. I'm waiting for a challenge I like. I know. We're in episode three now. It's not going to happen until can join twins. Honestly. Yeah.

Snatch game. Well, Snatch game is great for a good because Pearl is so funny. Pearl and Kennedy are amazing. Kennedy is amazing. And then that's, bleh, you know. Well, you're going to have to lead the ones because I'm gone for. a while. So you're going to have to really lead it. I have to show up to work. Because the episodes that are coming, I'm watching it, not in it. Oh, right. My only knowledge of it is the show.

Right, right, right. Oh, good. So you're going to have to come hard. I have to try it. You're going to have to drive the bus. Okay. All right. Bye. Hi, I'm Heather McDonald's, gossip enthusiast, podcast queen, and longtime loyalist to Amazon Prime. Between next day Prime deliveries, binge-worthy shows, and playlists that keep me company while digging into the latest gossip, Prime is my silent co-host. The truth is, Prime doesn't just support my passions. It fuels them from spontaneous curiosities to full-blown obsessions. it's got my back. Whatever you're into, it's on Prime. Visit Amazon.ca slash Prime to get more out of whatever you're into. This is Trixie Mattel, call host of The Bald and the Beautiful podcast, drag queen, and Amazon Prime enthusiast. And I'm Katya, interpretive dancer, chaos agent, and someone

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