The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - RuPaul's Drag Race Season 7 Ep 4: "A Soufflé of Judgement & Humiliation" with Trixie and Katya

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

This evening's Auberge du Bald prix fixe menu opens with a velvety consommé of critiques simmered to perfection as Trixie and Katya revisit Episode 4 of Season 7, ladling out a slightly tart first course of humiliation and an amuse-bouche of sweet nostalgia. Before the main course, light humiliation is flambéed tableside, its acrid smoke mingling delightfully with champagne bubbles of self-deprecation. For the main course, the producers and RuPaul are folded into the cassoulet de canard with rare Austrian truffles—transforming the dish into a life-altering lesson in flavor, foie gras, and friendship. For dessert, a traditional crème brûlée is served with genuine gratitude on a gilded platter, thus concluding an episode that is a shining banquet of memory, misery, and the miracle of drag destiny. Go to https://Ro.co/BALD for your free insurance check to see if your insurance covers GLP-1s for free. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://BetterHelp.com/BALD and get on your way to being your best! Audible’s romance collection has something to satisfy every side of you! Your first great love story is free when you sign up for a free 30-day trial at https://Audible.com/BALD Follow Trixie: @TrixieMattel Follow Katya: @Katya_Zamo To watch the podcast on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/TrixieKatyaYT⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out our official YouTube Clips Channel: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/TrixieAndKatyaClipsYT⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you want to support the show, and get all the episodes ad-free go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://thebaldandthebeautiful.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you like the show, telling a friend about it would be amazing! You can text, email, Tweet, or send this link to a friend: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out future Live Podcast Shows, go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://trixieandkatyalive.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To order your copy of our book, "Working Girls", go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://workinggirlsbook.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out the Trixie Motel in Palm Springs, CA: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.trixiemotel.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Listen Anywhere! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   Follow Trixie: Official Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.trixiemattel.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@trixie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter (X): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   Follow Katya: Official Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.welovekatya.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/welovekatya/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Twitter (X): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠    #TrixieMattel #KatyaZamo #BaldBeautiful Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Okay We'll get into season 7 in a second Are you aware of this show A modeling competition show Hosted by Rachel Hunter? No Baby Who's Rachel Hunter?

Rachel Hunter is an Australian Supermodel of maybe from the 90s Okay Like Cindy Crawford that era Well not Cindy Crawford She's whatever Rachel Hunter was like a pin up But like a sports illustrated model

Successful She has this competition show I am not sure what it's called, but these, she rates them. And it is so fucking brutal. It's like, I'd write your face a five. You got to watch it. It makes Tyra look like Mother Teresa. Really?

Oh, yes, baby. What is she saying? She says, you're, um, she's just like rating there from one to ten and just like, she's like face two. Yes. Yes. Yeah. And then like a guy will come out who's like a Greek guy.

She'd be like, you're too clean. It's like so crazy. It's so antagonistic and it's so wrong. And it just does not hold up. But it gives the swan, you know, that era. It was just like brutal reality TV. And you need to go catch yourself a little bit of that because she is. Also, no shade.

Not pretty enough to be doing that. Oh, damn. She's gorgeous. I don't know in what language that would be considered shade. What? I think that was. Totally shady? Yeah.

I think shade has some kind of like, bub, boop, that's just, you ain't pretty. No, I said, I said, no, no, no, I said, you ain't all that to be doing all that. Right. That's an eclipse. That's a shudsy eclipse. Anyways, I think it's honestly, anything that's about the way people look. It was mean-spirited.

I think. Yeah. Well, you know, when I did Queen of the Universe, I called Michelle and I said, Michelle, how do you actually do this? Because I, you know, it's easy for us to just say, fuck the judges, whatever. How do you actually critique people? Yeah. And she said. They're away from their families and their boyfriends and their DJs and their other drag queens.

You are their only thermometer to let them know how to win. So if you're not honest, you're not helping them. You're actually doing a disservice by like not saying shit. And also everybody needs to have the wherewithal to know that this is a person, this is a subjective, not sport, but this is a subjective art form. This is one person's opinion. Yeah, she has qualifications, but it's just one woman's opinion. Drag is art. And art is subjective.

Drag is art. In art is subjective. We're not here to evaluate you on your art. I can't get enough of that shit. They need to get Rachel Hunter on Dragula. They need, no, you know who they need to get. They need to get on Dragula. A single bucket of blood.

Wait, who's that? That woman from the TED Talk? A single drop of blood. A single drop of blood. Elizabeth. What's her name? What's the name? Elizabeth.

Yes. They need to get her, but instead of a drop of blood, it's Dragula. So it's a single truckload of blood. We'll hit you in the face on the runway. We're not here to We're not here to evaluate your art.

We're here to evaluate your blood. Oh, that bitch is so kind of deep. So, girl, let me tell you something. Spoof, there it is. Okay, so spoof, there it is. Here we go again. Is it possible? I would just like to,

we're four episodes in, and now that I go home and sleep and think about what we're doing, I would just like to say a few things that I thought about yesterday. One, everybody who applies, for drag race is asking to be critiqued and possibly eliminated. No, no, you're volunteering to experience the following critique and elimination.

And or everything. Humiliation. And so in some ways, I think back to my young self, I think back to not liking critiques. And I'm like, why did you do a competition if you are not open to critique? You know? I never not like to critique. Every single critique I got, I thought was 100% on the money. is never offended.

I, that's the thing. It's affirming in a shitty way when you hear a critique that you also thought yourself, you're like, damn, it's true. When I walked down with that hello kitty thing, I knew it was bad shit. I knew it was horrible. Everything that came out of Santino's mouth was like, duh. Yeah.

You know, it's just the humiliating part. Yeah. So, and I just, without, the other thing we didn't say at the top of this that I would like to amend now is, thank you to Drag Race for having us. I'm thinking of us auditioning and all that. And I'm like, we really got a gift. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

No, are you kidding? Mary, it was the golden ticket. To everybody in casting and everybody at Drag Race, we, I can't tell you how much it changed our lives. Steven, Mandy, Meage, Randy Fenton, Tom, Roo, everybody. Roo. Thank you. Rupal, thank you.

Thank you. Because literally, I would be dead in a ditch under a drug debt or a social worker with $200,000 in MX credit card debt in Boston. You would be Mariah Carey and Precious. No makeup on with just the wig. Yeah. And just crying. Just crying.

Yeah. By the way, Mama, she, we just slayed that. Oh, she was amazing. That whole movie is so beautiful. I rewatch that scene in the office and I was like, I had to shut the door and leave. It was so intense. I saw an interview where they said that the director told Mariah to not cry and she couldn't help it. Yeah, it was totally authentic.

Crazy. Mariah Carey is so cunt. Yeah. I fucking love her. Did you see her singing? at the eagle? No, but I heard about it, bitch. I heard about it.

People thought she was a drag queen. Girl, Nick and I are shooting something at the eagle. And so the day or two after Mariah was there, I went in to scout out the location, drink piss from the, you know, you know, scout out the location. Clear out the trough with my mouth. And there's one bartender and it's around happy hour. So it's, you can talk to the bartender. You don't want to start a conversation during busy time.

That's rude, right? But I said, was it true? Mariah Carey was here? And they said, yeah. they said she walked right in that door right there she was in this bar for about eight minutes she did her track and left fierce but that's eight minutes longer than

probably any other gay bar that she'll go to no shit that's not so elusive that's an approachable shantus I love it if Mariah comes out to the gay bar she goes to the Eagle L.A the ran through dolls well she's not going to get trapped at heart or

oh my god she'll never make it out of West Hollywood should get killed should have to get there have to be a life size bank tube, shoot for her to like just jump through. Or Diana Rossley in the Super Bowl. That's how she leaves. Yeah, God, I love her.

So we're on episode four. Spoof, there it is. Let me get my notes because I take notes. I loved your analog notes, the handwritten notes. I know. I didn't take any last night or this morning. I'm such an asshole. Can I say I'm at the point in the season

where I'm watching it and I forget to take notes because I'm just actually just watching now? Yeah. Let's see. Oh, gosh. So, Jasmine went home. So Jasmine went home. That sucks.

Damn, I didn't take any notes for this episode. Perfect. I went from three to five trauma, locked it out. This one's not my favorite episode, although it is the hardest, probably one of the hardest days. You know, we go in, I believe the, is there a mini challenge? I want to suck your cock. Is there a mini challenge? No.

I don't think there is. No, no. No, because we had so much to do. We had so much to do. No mini challenge means it's going to be a full fucking day ho. Yeah. We break into groups. I don't remember even how we got what groups.

It's whoever you are next to, I believe. Oh, I think, yeah, it seemed random. I think they lined us. Maybe I'm wrong. God, if I'm wrong, that's really. We did. Okay, we picked our own groups. Because you picked me third.

Yeah, third. How did I get to pick something? Because Jaden, Menackson, Violet, or Webster. again the storyline of no one wanting to pick violet yeah yeah yeah what no no no no no no no are you sure there wasn't a many challenge reading no it's not reading yet okay we don't know i did watch it i did watch it too and i and i lived it i still don't fucking know by the way how did how did they get the show shout out to a series that you did oh yeah rugrats no it was regrets and regrets

and you did it all for memory before the upseason came out which is very crazy not NDA compliant and also like I think it's fine it is fine I think I asked one of the producers where I didn't but I asked for forgiveness rather than permission I didn't but of course

my memory is all stuff that I did and that of course didn't air because I think I'm the center of the universe and then I watch the show and I'm in it maybe 10% you know yeah so It is illuminating to watch it And we remember it from our perspective And you watch it and you and I are so

Other than our interviews You and I are so mid. We're so mid and guess what? That's the kiss of death We're so mid. Baby that's the kiss of death on reality If you're mid, you're gone. We're mid.

They want low and high. We want nothing in the middle. Friendly and yeah moderately good at drag. Yeah. Okay. Okay to nice. Middle number. Yeah.

Very middle number. We're giving three. Sometimes we're giving to you know three to three to three to three to three. to six. I mean, six is a little high for me, but yeah. So it's a little humiliating to be in the middle because you get thrown out with the, it's on the cutting room floor. Yeah. So RuPaul says that we are going to be spoofing the greatest artist of all time. And then she goes, me, which I do love. Yeah, that's great. I love. Yeah. Raymond is also exploring these. Raymond? I've been calling her

Raymond. She's also been exploring these, I love her outfits this season. Oh yeah. We're color blocked polka dot, pop fantasy, bright color. Yeah. This is like, RuPaul kind of. before she was like all the awards RuPaul RuPaul's kind of dressing funky and gay. Not that she's not funky and gay now but now she looks so rich. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. RuPaul this time did seem like she just got funky fucking clothes. She wears some big ass shoes as a man.

Yeah. I don't know how she squeezes them tutsies into those ladies shoes. Open toe. Cut them off. Toe. So do we get into groups? I think it's me, you, fame and pearl. Yep. Very puzzling. Puzzling crew. No, didn't they just do it? I don't know Because why do we have four?

Oh maybe we just grabbed each other We just grabbed each other Get it go get into a group quick That's what we did Which by the way Thank God I was There's time to strategize No no no no

It was just I by the way I had full body chills I hate I hate that I hate that I hate that I don't want to get left alone

Or with somebody bad But I also don't want to get grabbed by someone that I don't want to be with. Like, get out of here, you bum. Yeah, yeah. Oh, oh, hey, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. No, because we were next to each other.

We were close to each other. Or no. Proximity. I think, yeah. And also, I just liked her. I think I liked him, you know. Well, I know you weren't a fucking asshole or dingbat or like. I thought you were funny.

Yeah. But we had not. I mean, viewers, no. We have not established a friendship really whatsoever. But it's clear that you're a personable. young man. Yes, and I guess parody, okay,

I had just watched you do, I knew you could do dumb shit. So I'm sure that was part of it. It was like, okay, Pearl was my friend. And honestly,

I'm watching this show. I know that fame comes off very, I wrote this down too. Fame comes off very crazy. Fame has a very grounding presence, though. She's a very nice person. I think you liked fame.

Sexually? No, I know, no, no. I think you looked up to fame. And I liked her. I did not. She was 10 years older than me. Yeah, okay. That's true.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I was 24 at the time. She was 30. She was 29. She was 20. Oh, sorry. She was three years younger than me. No.

Also, she was sober and so beautiful. I kind of thought, okay, we have a good vibe. And since I'm so mid, let me stand next to this person who's slightly less mid at drag. Let me stand next to the most breathtaking creature in this competition. That's what I mean. Let me, let me experience the spillover of some of that beauty. Let me get some of her golden shadow. Which is by the way, not a greater strategy. You look like me.

The strategy is not, I should stand as close as I can to fame. Who's the biggest booker? Who's the biggest booker I can pick to you? I say, get over here. So we have, she says something so chilling in this episode, like, suck your cock. Oh, yes. Oh my God. Makes me want to, it gives, it makes me want to gouge out everybody's eyes in this way. Hello, you guys, it's Heather McDonnell, and I have a juicy scoop for you on Audible. I've been loving their romance collection.

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in full safety information about GLP1 medications. And this is the beginning of something I really hate, which is I hate jokes in drag race that are just about drag race. Yeah. And so it starts to cannibalize itself after season six. And so the other two groups doing entire parodies about drag race to me was like, no. But obviously I made the wrong decision there. But we have, our number is silly.

It's dumb. But it is, I think it's the best. I do too. Because the others are so best. I like, I watch the other girls and I was like, I was fully preparing for Ginger, Kennedy, Candy and, um, uh, Kasha to be like slaying it. I hated their song. I hated it.

I mean, Ginger kind of can do. Should we just go through the groups? Yeah. This challenge does go to basic, well, before we do it, do you remember Fame and Pearl fighting? Because I do. Yes, I do. Yeah. Fame and Pearl day to day. Because I was like, do you hate each other? Like, they were fighting all the time. But it's also, it was a very tense situation because we had to come up with choreo by ourselves. I hate that. Yeah. I hate that. And by the way, the person leading the choreo is fame. Yeah. Explain that. Crazy. We needed a Lagonga, someone who was like, all right, you fucking potatoes. Right. This is. is what we're doing. Yes.

Do it again. Do it again. Do it again. Do it again. Do it again. Bam, bam. Bam. But we were just so indecisive and fame is such a scatterbrain person.

And I'm not a leader in that way. No. So it's like you and I on the sides watching fame and Pearl argue and tell us what to do. You and I look like children of abuse because they're fighting in the middle. And you know, I are on the side. It's like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

We're just like a silent witness. Silently witnessing and like watching it unravel already. Yeah. So, but can I be honest. I, it's been 10 years. And obviously. I haven't thought about it a long time or really. But I watch it.

I thought, well, this is going to be the moment where I realize how bad we were now that I, you know. Yeah. It's not bad. It's not good, but it's not the worst. No, no, no. I'm not the best, but I'm not the worst. It's really not the worst. No.

I don't like the get ready to clock. I didn't respond to that. I hated that. And I didn't respond to that at all. No, because it's a terrible concept. And also, like, for example, so shady, she was just like, Courtney doesn't have a big personality. is like, that's not the right verbiage, Michelle. But, like, no one should try to be Courtney

because you can't. I could. Nobody could be Courtney. Courtney is Courtney. And she's... I could. And I will. And I'll do it again. You could be, um, porkney.

Portney... Porkney ass. No. And also, like, being Bianca is not, to me is not funny. I actually think Jaden did the best job. Yeah, she was the best. She was the best. And then who was the...

A door. Violet was a door. It was just... You know. Yeah. But not great. And also, it was just... I just get cringed out by, like, something that is overly referencing...

Yeah. Well, you know, when they... The room. Yeah. And then later seasons when... And I always... I felt some type of way about how they ridiculed LaGangea on her season and then literally adopted her whole lexicon as can...

And then used it to, like, create challenges. in subsequent seasons. Yeah. I thought that was so crazy. They made her sound like a fucking idiot. They like literally humiliated her. I know I've said this before. It's beating a dead horse.

But sometimes things you say in drag when you have a platform, I hear people say things that you and I say on this pod is inside jokes. I hear people say pull the pad and they don't know that it came from us. Oh, wow. I don't even think it came from us. But like jerking. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like, I, horn.

horny that's very horny I've been hearing people say that and I don't even think they hear it from us so sometimes I think Dragress accidentally like when the show comes out and the whole world is saying

Lagantra phrases then Dragheris is like oh maybe that did eat let me but that's like shitty it's like you should like don't it's not even that simple because they like continue

I don't know I don't know it's just weird to me I understand what you're saying I understand what you're saying But I also think that they're, it's like, don't do that. Yeah. You know, anyway, so we have to do, we have to do TAN.

I love my look. I had fun. Oh, you look amazing. I had fun. Pearl looks great. Fame looks great. Fame looked wonderful. I look okay for this time in my career.

Fame really worked that sunburn out. She looked great. She looked fabulous. I actually think her on her knees sucking the dick was maybe one of the only parts I really liked. I loved it when we turned. I like the turning. I don't know where I got this idea.

I think it's because we had no time and this entire cohesive look could be done with makeup. We just seemed to look burned. So easy, peasy. And I don't remember this moment at all of choosing this idea. I don't remember if we had other ideas.

Do you? There was another idea and I don't remember what it was. I had no idea. Like, all I can remember is us picking this or running. Because we had to record in like an hour. All right, listen to a fucking listeners. You and your car on the 405. Let me tell you what we had to do.

We had to go in our clothes, get to the studio, wait around for a fucking hour. And then RuPaul comes out, explains the challenge. We have to team up alone come up with a concept for a parody. That alone could take a couple of hours, maybe even a day to come up with a good one. Then we had to write lyrics for it. It would take Sherry Vine six years. Six years. I just, rah, ra, uh, uh, uh, I just shit my pants.

Yeah. Okay. So, never mind, I'll find someone like poo. Yeah, yeah. You know. Oh, um, I had some black beans a greasy souffle. Oh, wow. Things are not going my way.

I have to go. Shit me with your best shot. Yeah. Okay. So we did do that and then we had to do it. I turned it through the grapevine. You know, it's always kind of a fecal material. Fecal matter.

So we had to take a whole, one of RuPaul's songs, which, are pretty, you know, whatever. And we had to do a whole parody. That's tough. Oh, yeah. Then we have to come up with a concept for a music video. That in itself is tough. Then we had to create out of thin air choreography for this music video.

Then we had to go get into drag for this music video. Then we had to record music. We had to record our voices. We had to record the voices. And then maybe an hour later, we received them in a headbound. Wait, they didn't show this. Do you remember fame being like, fame?

This was literally fame. I remember this like was yesterday. And it just came back to me. This is fame putting in her headphones and hearing her own singing for the first time. So she was like, Like she was like, I sound. She was like,

Maria Callas. So good. And she kind of. does like she does turn it out you know they give us the real quick auto tune pass for sure yeah yeah yeah yeah i forgot we had to go in the recording studio do that then we had to go pearl sunglasses with her drawn on nostrils triangles with the big sunglasses i look like a sunburned muppet yeah you look amazing i look like magda you look like magda from something about mary i love her her tanning mom tan mom love that outfit and you're doing one piece.

Yeah, really getting into it. And you even peeled skin off of that. Yeah, peel skin off. That had a blast that day. Because that's my fort. That's my real, that's my wheelhouse. That's my forte.

Like ugliest dress. Mama, I was born for that mom. Born in the game. Like born for that moment. So we did that. Can I, can I explain what I saw on the screen?

So I've never been in a music video. I've never been on a green screen. I don't know how music videos work. Me neither. And I guess I thought, You just kept walking out of the frame. When you are done singing your line, leave because somebody else is going. I thought it was like, we're going to roll it.

And then when you're done singing, move and somebody else. So I kept walking off. It's a group number. I know. So I kept walking off and being like, and then Michelle will be like, why are you over there? I'd be like, well, I did it and done. And she'd be like, no, no, no, you go back. I said, okay.

So I went back in there and sing it again. And then walked back to the side. It's like, I don't know. But I didn't know. You guys, I had no idea how. I know. Editing worked. I only used Imovie once to make my drag race audition.

I had no idea. I didn't even do that. I didn't understand that you all do a pass of the song. And then later they punch in and make something from it. It's fair. And I'm watching it. I'm going like, this is just an example of the extreme ignorance of like,

I have no idea what I'm doing. Well, we're a fish out of water. I have no idea what I'm doing. Also, we don't know how to be efficient. We don't know like, oh, let's get this shot.

We don't know how to direct ourselves. We have to direct ourselves. We have to direct ourselves. That's another crazy thing. It's like, okay. And also with Pearl and Fame not getting along and us being kind of like... Passive. Passive.

Yeah. We're very passive. Like we're being, mommy and daddy, what do you want? You know? Yeah. It was not, it was not easy. That was a lot to do in one day. And the only thing I remembered, honestly, I didn't think we did great, but I left having

really no... no idea that we did bad. Yeah. No, I didn't think we did bad. But I didn't think we were like, I know the judges weren't rolling, but I also was like, okay. It was a serviceable. It was comfortable. And they can do it.

Yes. And we didn't get to watch the other groups. No, we did not. So we're going off of just vibes. Yeah, vibes. But I honestly thought dressing like season six queens was dumb. And I thought a number about RuPaul was dumb. Also, wait, the, the, I think this is so funny.

her apparent like being offended about Drag you Like they played it three times Three times she was like No RuPaul The best part is she goes Stop stop stop

What was that about drag you And she's sort of like It's not lapis It's Surulia She's like getting ready to read Well you know it was my favorite project And it was a helped a lot of people She goes changed a lot of lives

I know Like yeah I was flummox by that Because I'm like But also that's the exact type of joke That I think Rue would love Of course. She's not offended.

You know, I think maybe because it just wasn't funny. Well, Mary, you got 40 Emmys for drag race and zero for drag you. No, no, no, no. I mean, if she's really, if she was really actually offended by that, I would, I am so shocked. I would be too. I would be shocked. Like, and so they always come back to her like, that person on Rue's TikTok right now doesn't make me think that person is offended by that. She just shut to nuke up her pussy.

I know. I know. I know. Can I help you? Can I help you? Do you have a question? My favorite is the mustaches, too. Do you see the one about God, and she's a little girl, and she's like, yeah, I guess I will ask.

So funny. Rupall. The Annie one? Girl, the Annie one. Barefoot in a parking lot goes on for 25 minutes. It's too much. It's so crazy. She's too good.

Okay, so I have a, so in retrospect, so because if we consider how the, how the challenges shake down in future episodes, I should have won this challenge. only because Wait a minute I should have won this challenge Who did win? Kennedy? She was great Not better than me though

She wasn't better than me She wasn't She did like a ghetto character Which grew goes nuts for She was very funny But she wasn't all that funnier than me You were you two were the best For sure

But so considering the amount of Challenge Challenge wins that Ginger and Kennedy would receive this would have been more this would have made more sense for me to get this one than the Merle one. I was completely forgetable in the Merle challenge. Yeah, can I say honestly,

you were the, by far the best part of our group and so for that reason too, we all did just okay, but you were actually good. So she picked for the top, she picked one from each group. Oh, she did. We did not have, there was not a group who won. Oh, that's right.

So that was a switch, that was a little change that was a little switchup I didn't expect so it was um it was jaden Kennedy and me I remember Rupal going tonight you're going to be judge as individuals yeah which was such a curve ball such a curve ball because I thought we were safe I thought as a group I was going to be in a safe group yeah you know me my goal on drag race is to coast in the middle and never be noticed apparently because that's how you win yeah and then you just big finish big finish big finish I was saving my cunty sickening gowns for the end so um this is kind of Did you have any favorites?

I thought obviously Ginger always delivers. She did a good job. She did a great job, but I really did not like the song. I went on way too long and it wasn't funny. And Jaden was the best in that group, I felt. Yeah, she was just hamming it up. Oh, let's listen from, we got a voice note from Janen. Well, thank God.

Cue it up. It's just porn. She gets so stressed out. She called lesbian porn. What should I talk about? I said, girl, just anything. Greatest accomplishment. It was when me,

we max and violet did uh get ready to clock we did um uh i played bianca del rio uh i think max was Courtney Act uh Violet was A door somebody i forgot honey my my brain cells i told you girl i forgot but um but yes um that was my most uh my greatest accomplishment at least in my head I did not win that challenge But according to the fan base They said I won that challenge But it was definitely

A really big accomplishment For me Because I feel like That was my moment Where I was like the most proud of myself Do you hear dogs barking? Yeah Jaden's she's

She's surrounded by Dalmatians She's in the kennel She's in the kennel She was great I mean, Jaden, can I say watching this season for how old this is? Jaden is, she's got the face card. Oh, yeah. It's fucking gorgeous in this season.

The green runway, this runway, they cut to her with this green glitter. No, wait, wait. It's in the future. It's when she's so de tempest. She has that green glitter lip. And I'm like, is Jaden kind of one of the faces of the season? Kind of. Beautiful.

Absolutely beautiful. Yeah. So then we get honestly, this whole day, I just remember that and the elimination. This runway, I'm sorry. We had some highs and some lows. It really was a hit and miss. I think it was mostly misses. I'll go down the list because I remember I really took notes on this.

Can I say my babe? Yes. Who's? Violet. No shit. That little Vegas look was so cool. No shit. She's naked wearing feathers.

No shit. And I love that. Oh, this was Jessica Alba. This was Jessica Alba and her shameless plug for her shitty products. I'm sorry. Sorry. I remember Kennedy, Kennedy was so a non-entity. Kennedy wins the challenge and we're like, you want baby wipes, girl.

Girl. And Jessica Alba's, God love her. She was one of the most beautiful women in the world. She was up in the shittiest outfit. Sorry. I know this is so shady. No, she also says, like, I don't know what I've got myself into or something. It's so boring.

It's just like B-O-R-I-N-G mama, but you're gorgeous. The honest company. I've never tried their products. Me neither. And I think they're, I think they're clean ingredients. I think it's like, you know. They're made in the Sudan. No, I think some families don't want to use chemicals for, like, cleaning shit.

Yeah, no paravans, blah, blah, blah, blah. Good for her. Those were amazing. Max is great. Max is low-key. I loved it. What about it when that look? Hated it.

Oh, I loved it. Okay. There was no green. Oh, yeah. It was just green nipples. Green nipples and like a vaguely sage panier or whatever you call it. Yeah. Hated it.

That's true. Hated it. I mean, I hated Kennedy's and she wins the challenge. girl hers was so ugly chicken feathers so let's go ugly ugly um uh ginger horrible awful awful awful awful is it the satin yes she looks like a fucking leprecha this should have been her ugliest dress this should have been her ugliest dress this should have been her ugliest dress the ugliest dress one is also green i know but that was better than this one this one was pretty bad mine was so basic so basic and i have the worst outfiters wig

hairline it's a helmet it's a helmet it's it's lord it's a dark helmet from baseballs? It is truly the beginning of a dress. It's like if you sewed the dress and then you're going to do shit to it. Mary, it was a t-shirt long dress with a slit. With a slit. I had it. Listen, I was broke. I was poor. I had no time.

I had a green dress. There was a green runway. I said, that's it. Right. That's what they're getting. I gave a little leg. That's it. It wasn't bad. It was not a winning. It's completely forgettable. Yeah. It was green. I liked it better than Kennedy's, but it honestly is just more forgettable because it's

Kennedy's is so over design Kennedy you know it's bad You know it's bad no no no I don't know I don't know that she knows it's bad That those shitty chicken feather Slat bulk across the middle Oh my God it was so The over design was so nasty

Who else Fame Sensational not her best but lovely I love this fame one It's like a purple green And it's iridescent green It's like it's beautiful It's cool

Her mug Yeah And she's got the black I think this is the first time we see fame in black hair. Yeah, I can't wait until we get there. Death becomes her because her makeup and that is... And makeup is for real. Fucking legendary.

Okay, then who is that? Pearl hated it. Hated it. Pearl, I hated it too. It was crafts. It was a sixth grade Halloween craft store. She is so tiny in this. Yeah, she looks crazy.

She looks like she's giving Anna. I liked the makeup. Yeah, I loved the little, you know, the fishnet shading thing for this. for scales. Hated this outfit with a passion. Yeah. Hated it so much. Just because she's so good. Jaden's, I didn't like it. You know, I talked to Jaden today on the phone and she said, girl.

It was a dance costume. She said, honestly, when I got on drag race, she said, I called the call center I worked at. I told him I needed to go on a leave. And she said, I went home and she said, casting told me to just start looking through my closet. And she said, I realized all my outfits were for dancing and making money. Dude, I understand that. I, that was like, I had mostly cat suits to perform in. Yeah.

Like, I just didn't have anything. And that's not on drag risks and they're like, it's too many body suits. I'm like, you know what we do for work, right? Yeah. You know, I perform. You know, we roll around, right? Yeah, it was crazy. Mine forget about who.

Because gowns are so limiting. And as a working drag queen, you have your gown for your ballot or whatever. You do gown for the second number on a Wednesday night with nobody there. Right. You know, um, um, famous. Violets was just. And so creative. Yeah.

Like, such a. great unusual choice. Oh, what would Candy wear? Violet's in a, fame is it, or Candy's in a green dress with a green wig. Oh. It's like a Beyonce ambre, but it's green.

It was a mother of the bride beaded thing with some green green, green, um, it's like a Beyonce hair with green tips. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Too forgettable. Yeah, I, I really hated that outfit of hers. I don't know. She looked very pretty, but it was just.

I didn't respond to Pearls at all. Honestly, I don't know if mine was a losing look at the time, but I don't love it. No, I really, and it's also cake as very anything goes, Temple of Doom, Ching Chong. Yeah, honestly, it's, through my eyes of

2025, I can understand that the 23-year-old or whatever who put that look together, who didn't know what Bryant Park was, like my only references of fashion at all were from like costume stores and cartoons. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

So almost everything is like an occupation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like when you're that early in drag, everything's a bit. Everything's a bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And looking back. So you're doing your like oriental thing. The fact that I'm like a white girl wearing like a Chinese look.

Well, Mama, you have to consider this. This is back when Gwen Stefani had Harajuku girls as accessories. And you know what I mean? Like this is very, this is a different time. 10 years ago it sounds like not a lot of time, but it actually was in terms of this kind of thing. Yeah, when I think about it, come a long way. What's crazy to think back. is it never crossed my mind that that was odd.

And nobody said anything. Nobody said anything. They said Shanghai. Also, it was a look that launched people on the internet being mad that I was eliminated. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nobody had took up any umbrage with it. But now watching it, I'm like, that's a bizarre thing for you, girl from Wisconsin. What's weird about at the time, too, was people knew I was close with Kim Chi and people

were like, did you borrow that from Kim? I said, Kim's Korean. Bam, there you go. Even to this day, Kim and I would call Lai. laughing because Kim was like, why has everyone think that I borrowed you this dress? I said, I don't know. Girl, Kim, text me the funniest fucking thing the other day. She was at Pride and someone said,

I love you. You're like a drag queen with an AAPI twist. Kim said, what's the twist? What's the twist? What does that mean? It's Mandarin Oriental twist. What is it with a twist? Shout out to the POC queens because I'm sure they get

weird fucking shit like that said to them all the time. Asian queens, are you kidding me? What about Joel Kim Boehner being the same person? to who everybody it's so crazy it's so crazy not to me no not to me either but like but it's just so wild what kind what kind of chinese are you yeah you know it's i guess i like can i say one thing i liked about the look i guess i liked the fabric the mint yeah mint julep yeah i guess i like the color but i don't know why i picked that i'd never worn it before it was made for drag race it was made for drag race i didn't own one thing green oh my gosh i didn't have

anything green i didn't have one thing green yeah i should have done anything i could have just had a sequin green gown but obviously i end up being limited anyway so it doesn't we should have we should have talked about what we would wear now instead oh that's a great that's a great yeah that's a good idea i would have done instead something like violet like a showgirl but with a headpiece and i can juggle and i would have done something with juggling i think you maybe want to be a more covered up. Girl, you know what? Last time I wore that outfit was,

do you remember like last pride I did that lip sync gig for Netflix is a joke? I did like an outdoor gig. And all the comments were like, there was video of me lip syncing. You know, I don't lip sync that much anymore.

All the comments were like, guess the rent was due. I'm like, how come of, I'm like, she's really slumming it. She has fallen. Oh, how the mighty have fallen. And also, you know, Netflix,

I was not slumminate. Like, yeah, it was paid well. As was Fina, Fina was booked there. Like, it was just so crazy. Whenever people catch me lip-seeking now, they're like, damn, what are you in collections? I'm like, Uncle Sam's got you out by the pliers. Yeah.

So I remember, it's time for critiques. I just, I knew I was not going to win this challenge. I was really blindsided that I was in the bottom. I couldn't believe it. I thought it was going to be candy and pearl. Me too. Yeah. Yeah.

I thought or, I mean, I don't know who. I thought candy. I just didn't expect me in the bottom I remember really Because Pearl at this point has still Has been getting critiques of like Girl yeah you know And this is like boy it's getting to a boiling point

So I was really But I guess you know I want to say I was 24 in a huge dollop of delusion I was probably just in shock that it was on bottom Because I was like but I'm But I mean It's a hello Bella Higgins Yeah

So A was that but B I actually didn't think I did the best And I didn't think I had the worst runway So I was like, oh shit, this is happening. And then I remember, I love Blondie. So I remember being like, thank God, this is a song that I've known. I know every word. Didn't even have to listen to it.

I know every word. And you hope on Drag Race if you get a song where you hope if you have to lip sync, it's a song you really know. I was like, I know the drums to this song. I know every part of this song. So I was like, I'm ready. And then I know Pearl. So I was like, I was pretty sure I was going to bury her. And then it just didn't occur.

You know, and I was from a, I watched. I know about lip singing. I know about drag performance. At this point, I've been doing drag for like, I don't know, six years, seven years or something.

And I've seen many drag performances. And I did not see pearls as something that was exceptional. In fact, I thought it was something that was pretty bad. And so when I'm looking at you, I mean, again, I don't think any performance on the main stage is great.

Right. But I don't. You just can't do it. Because there's no walls. There's no support. There's no, like, you're not in your outfit.

of choice you're not in your whatever all these things stacked against you're in a bad mood you're and your feet are like literally gout yeah you got gout yeah you know what i mean it's it's it's razor blades on the toes yeah i was like there was no question in my mind because i was operating from this delusional point of like merit so it's like oh it's a meritocracy there's no product it was like oh of course it's not and i still maybe didn't think i can i say i felt like i knew in my heart i was not going to win this competition, but I did not think I was going this early. So I was really grappling with that, the reality of that, I was like, what? Yes, I thought you and me were going to be about three quarters of the way to the end.

Me too. Yeah. I thought we'd have a lovely time with the free food. Yes. Yeah. And then go home and have memories and snapshots. And then wouldn't have to go through the horror of the voting and the waiting and the numbers and all that crap, which I'm so actually relieved.

Well, we did end up doing that later. And it's a different experience to wait a whole year and not really know what's going to happen. Yeah. You know? But I remember also, I remember they called Pearl's name and I thought it was a double stay. Yeah. I couldn't believe it. I know that's delusional, but I couldn't believe it.

But I was just as shocked. I could believe it. And I didn't, like you said, we were really friends at this point. I was completely shocked. I felt so shocked and betrayed. Full body chills. I had full body chills. I feel so shocked and betrayed right now.

Anyway, it was crazy. In the moment, too. Because she was doing something like this. People in the car just imagine. yeah it was like a different style for sure different style maryon williamson no no it was more um the um in fabric but it was like it was a it was whatever who fucking cares it was so long

and you know what i learned from watching this i haven't watched this episode in so long in the moment it feels like the end of the world and if i could go if i have advice to somebody who's on drag race now if you lose a lip sync and go the way it is not a big deal it is not a big deal you got it that's the advice I've given girls before too

like her say do not go on the show unless you are 100% comfortable with the fact of going home first 100% not

then you have no business being on that show like you of course you need to want to win and you need to think you can win but you have to unlike me

who thought I would kill myself you know like you can't do that. It's not, it's just a fucking show. And you can also parlay it into a lot of shit. And I'll tell you guys if you don't know when you get eliminated. I don't know if people know that this happens. So RuPaul comes out. When you get it, fucks you. You leave. They take you to a, all the other drag queens wait behind the main

stage in silence for what feels like an hour. Oh, for ever. It feels like an hour. So everyone who's safe sits there. One person is one, one person has one home. And the story producers stand there with cattle prods ready to be like, because they're like, Don't spill the tea without the cameras, which is, by the way, what I would do. I would slap people and say, don't fucking talk about that until we get the cameras on. No shit. Don't you want people to know? We're making a television show.

Yeah, yeah. And you're a terrible actor. Right. You know what I mean? So they make everyone wait. And I remember I, they take you to a room. You're still in drag. I think they let you get on a makeup.

And then they sit you down. They go, you did a great job. And I remember they went four episodes. That's a month of television. You're going to be on TV for four weeks. Plus, you get to come back for a reunion. And they were, they were telling me very true stuff. They were like, that's really nice.

I remember Theron was like, you're forever a drag race girl and you can do anything with this. And it's not a big deal. You know, he was like, somebody went home yesterday. Somebody goes home tomorrow. Like, that's really helpful. That's really helpful. And it was very helpful. And I was just shocked.

I was so shocked. And I remember going, I flew home for a week. Boop. Because I come back. Spoiler. I flew home for a week. And when I left, I remember when I got eliminated, they said, you're coming back in a week. And I said, they told you that right away.

Yes. Cunt. They said, you're coming back in a week. That's cuntie. For what? And they said, well, you just, you're coming. You will be making another appearance so you can go home but don't unpack or anything. Cunt.

They might have even left me, let me leave my drag. That's fierce. Because those baggage fees, honey. They weren't paying them. But you also, I think, could go home and get extra drag and come back. You know, you could cheat. Imagine if you just came home and like just came back like fucking. With pussy lids?

Like Daphne Guinness. Oh, yeah. With breasts. Breast. Full. Funt. Yeah. Of course.

Sorry, I'm walking weird. My cunt is healing. No, I come back and I got my hairline done, but just recently, it's just scabs. And I'm like. Scabs, blood, and then dilating. For sure. And so I went home and, um, that's it. That's it.

I went out, my beautiful boyfriend. What did you do when you went home? My beautiful boyfriend, Kyle picked me up at the airport. I remember I arrived at the Milwaukee terminal, Southwest, Rich. And I walked in my boyfriend saw me and I went like this and I cried and then he gave me a hug. And we just like, I went out to eat and had sex. Not the same time. But like I at fuck sex, my lovely boyfriend Kyle at the time and we just hung out.

And then I went back, we will not get to it, but I went back not really. They didn't tell me it was going to be to compete. They didn't tell me anything. Wow. But it was really disappointing. And when the show came out, I was shocked at the outpouring of support when I was eliminated. They don't tell you that it's almost like when you get eliminated from Drag Race, it's the everybody loves you. Yeah.

When you're not in the running. Yeah. People just focus on what they like about them. You should have won. You should have stayed. You should have did this. You went home too early. I loved you.

It was actually such a blessing. Yeah. Weirdly. Of course, me, high drama and the confessionals. I am so shocked and betrayed. She should be here. This is a travesty. And I'm leaving.

Yeah. The last straw. I did not have an exit line plan because I didn't think you were going to telling you. I did not think this was going to happen. And I know that's DeLulu? No, it's not. It's not DeLulu.

But there's moments on like all stars or whatever where I was like, oh, I know I'm going to be in the bottom. Or I know I won. I really didn't. I didn't think I even made a strong enough impression to be in the bottom. It was like so mid. But honestly, that's kind of the worst thing you can do. Oh, but this is also, so, okay. So for the people on Reddit and all this stuff and the sleuths and stuff, this is where I start to become, where Pollyanna starts to become aware of production.

Right. Because this is obviously a rivalry. Or not a rival, this is a emotionally juiced moment. Yes, you and Pearl and I were real friends. Yeah, and she had, and she cried. We were, and I believed her. I still consider us real friends. I just texted her this week.

And, um, it was green. She blocked you. I watch, if you guys would like to support Pearl, her, she is still creating in like 300 different ways on the internet. I mean, it sounds like corny. She's not building our bees. She's sewing. She's doing makeup.

She's doing crazy characters in the desert. I know. In the woods, doing dress. Right? Spears. In a lot of ways, watching Pearl is really interesting because when I remove myself from our age and our friendship, this is sort of a turning point as a viewer where Pearl cracks and kind of decides to care about Drag Race. Yeah. She actually from here on out goes harder.

Yes. At least from a viewer standpoint. Okay. From a viewer standpoint. From my standpoint, I'm like, well, we'll get to it because. Yes. A 180 degree personality change is very common to happen

over 24 hours. Yes, darling. Watching it honestly as a viewer, when I take myself out of it and obviously disappointment, I as a viewer do like Pearl on Drag Race. I like her talking heads. I like her drive.

I like her too. And so I don't know. If I was a viewer, I wouldn't like to see Pearl go either. So it's kind of a hard elimination. I really thought Candy love you. I thought it was going to be candy. Yeah, it was tough because the two of you,

so for me, the two of you are very unique characters thus far as drag race. you look like a boy you look like a boy and dray no no like you look like a boy yes and and like which is a real hard left for drag queens to have eyebrows I'm

no it is you look like a male boy like an uh and you're like an attractive young man and then pearls a heartthrob really I mean I'm heartthrob very handsome teeny bop magazine she's from one direction yeah she's in BTS and his she's new kids on the block

She's an in sync. He has this like little square jaw with blue eyes that are kind of far set. It's James Dean. He's very handsome. He's James Dean. Yes. And that's and it can't be overstated. I mean, it's looks count for a lot on a TV, TV show.

That's about looks. I just mean as a fan of who is on the drag race, I also would have been mad if I would have wanted to see more Pearl too. So I don't know. Yeah. In the moment you feel poor me, poor me, but watching it, I'm like, girl, it's another drag queen getting eliminated from drag race. Yeah.

you have to understand, this was also at a time where there wasn't eight franchises a year. Totally. It felt so serious. Yeah, yeah. And it was, Drag Race was once a year. That's true. In one franchise. Yeah.

And all eyes were on you. All drag eyes were on the show. Yeah. And this was when girls from the show really were stars for a year. And I don't mean that a shitty way, but now you really need to make a splash to even get a pride bookings, I think. Oh, now it's a different situation. But from season three to season our season, because season six was huge.

Huge. Huge. I mean, Bianca, Courtney, adore mega stars. Really launched that that season being so good made it hard for people to like our season, I think. Yeah. But also really helped our bookability. Yes. We went up, many of us went on to, to like incrementally make many, many thousands of dollars at our bookings. So like, um. Not me. Millions. At each one.

Hamburger Mary's Milwaukee instantly changed myself. $12 million. Okay, well, it's going to wrap. Okay. So I feel so shocked and betrayed. It was honestly, I was, I'm watching the whole thing with someone who's never seen it, which is very illuminating. Yeah. I think I must have been starting to be your friend at this point because I really felt those things that I said in the, in the confessional.

Yeah, I was, I mean, I watching it was someone's never seen it. And they were shocked. Really. I was like, I would, I guess I was shocked. It was weird. It was shocking. It was shocking. Yeah.

But like I said, it almost weirdly backfires on the person who stays because I remember people being weirdly anti-Purl. Absolutely. Which I thought was crazy. Like remember anti-Canady coming up? That's another thing. We'll get to that later. But also, this is also goes to show, because for the viewer, this is what? Four episodes.

This is about a week and a half. A week and a half. But in human time, this is four months. It's been eight years. It's been eight. No, because we have no social media. We have no other friends. We have no other social contact. We are completely...

And we're doing drag 12 hours a day. And we are very... It's a Vietnam kind of situation. Fast friendships and bonds are forged instantly. Yeah. So that's kind of a lot of the drama comes from that. But... Oh, Pearl's a little bit of voice note.

Yes. All right, Pearl. Side note, I maybe delusionally think that I'm close friends with Pearl. So I call her or send her texts all the time. Yeah. And she always responds. which at least means she's interested in correspondence. I think I've always believed that I'm close to her.

And a lot of my friendships are completely one way and that's okay. Works for you. Works for me. The most memorable thing for me to come from our season would be when Trixie and I had to lip sync. People don't understand what it's like to have won that lip sync and then watch Trixie become the Trixie that we know and love today. Yeah. For the last decade, I've been slowly publicly executed.

because of this moment. Truly. Somehow I'm 100% at fault. And as much as I appreciate the death threats, perhaps someone could have the wherewithal to blame the actual person who chose to send you home. Ginger won another lip-sting against you, but nobody seems to recall.

So I have to say, the wrath feels personal. Anyway, I'm proud of you both, and I'm happy to be your season seven sister. Okay. And it's nothing you can do about it. Keep being blonde, hot, and horny. Smoochies. Okay.

It's very pearl. I need to say a little few things because that is crazy. No, can I say we just said, this voice note reminds me what we just said, which is when you, when someone you like on DragGris Goes Home, it's not fair to turn to the other drag queen and say fuck her. You didn't say, actually, I'm in charge. Chop. Pearl didn't send me home It's RuPaul You it's RuPaul

Atrupal.com You can You can email her You can send letters To World of Wonder You can Google the address And can I tell you something But Pearl

I've known Pearl for Probably damn near 15 years Pearl is not someone Sitting home sending death threats to people No Pearl's not thinking about drag race Pearl's not

Yeah You think Kennedy was Kennedy invited me to Thanksgiving Girl And I went there And her family was like I'm part of the family

It was amazing. That really bummed me out. That voice note bummed me out. That was really fucking sad and also a big eye opener. Well, shit. Well, anybody who's going to send death threats is not going to listen to us. This is the thing that I would like to not speak out of term, but I want to say that I know Pearl enough to know that she did not love every part of doing drag race. And she did not love parts of being famous.

And it makes me sad that her main memory from this is that she was just doing her job, which is to compete. They say go lip sync and she said, okay. Yeah. And makes me sad. I know. Because she did a lot of great drag on drag race. And also, I, she, she had the most incredible, unprecedented, unparalleled display of testicular hugeness when she stood up with to repal. That's a whole section of my notes because.

Mary, I cannot wait to get to there. Girl, it's so comfy. I was like, I was 24 inches. away. And I remember it like it was yesterday. Yeah. Honestly. We'll see you next time. Can I have one one thing? Yeah. I honestly would like to say at the time what I just said about don't hate the other person. I don't really think that much about that at the time because I was just receiving all this. That lip-seek. You were a martyr. Everybody was being so nice to me about it. You were a martyr. Everybody was being nice to me because I lost. Right. And I guess I didn't spend much time

thinking about at the time how much that would build for Pearl. But over the years, I've thought a lot about it. Yeah, because I've never received that. Alaska has. Kennedy has. Alaska, Kennedy, I mean. Alaska and Kennedy have been have been spammed, death-righted.

Do you think Alaska, do you how many times Alaska has had to listen in a meeting greet for her, like, Conti should have won? No, she shouldn't have. Right. Like, in knowing full well that, like, no, she shouldn't have. she won like she killed it oh no you know whatever right but like that's so frustrating yeah you get the repetition of it honestly i think my understanding of that probably came from all stars when when i did well it became about other people who should have done better and it's not

but that's a flack of what pearl got i know pro got that for the rest of the season kennedy kennedy got fucking bombed it was so even though like even though she's so whatever we'll get to it i feel sad about that voice note. Pearl, I'm sorry. Yeah, that's really sad. I'm really sorry. I guess maybe at the time, if I had understood that, I would have been like, y'all are being whack. Yeah, but you don't because you're in a whole different mindset. Well,

spay and neuter your pets. I mean, the pearl effect that she even sent us a voice note. Thank you. Oh, and I have a lovely teeny little good note to end on. I went to a car wash for the first time, and I drove over a giant cone and I had it stuck in my

tire for the whole time until I got to the front of the car wash and the girl's like I was like what she's like you said my car thanks I was like I got out of the car mama this big this tall wedged in the the left front tire the whole time conti see you later Thank you.