The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - RuPaul's Drag Race Season 7 Eps 11 to 14: "Le Finalé Débonnaire Extraordinaire" with Trixie and Katya

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

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I watch this and, um, can I say it's exciting? Wait, did we do prancing? Yeah, we, but I'm saying last time. We already did prancing? The episode starts with the elimination from last episode. Oh, yeah. So we did prancing queens. And you had to go.

I had to go. But that's okay. It's not. Should have been pearl. Honestly, it was such a relief to go to, go the second time I was ready to go. Let's see. Okay.

Shake the dice and steal the rice. Okay. Lipstick. Okay. So the next episode, I'm gone. Love it, whatever. I should have wrote something more creative on the... If I ever did Dragherst again, I would either write a novel where I'm like, this message

is for Rachel. You know what I mean? I would really let everyone there have it. Or you would spend 20 minutes lip sticking your whole ass and then just printing a cheek mark or something really toxic like just take the lipstick and um do the whole mirror opaque you you like pull out a can of spray paint i got my own lipstick for sure or like a bloody handprint or you just smash the mirror oh you and they use trash the room how is no one ever done horror like black swan because girl you know nobody got no imagination no references

yeah i'm not i mean nami i think mine was like bye okay so the episode opens with you guys getting to do puppets the puppet challenge I hated this I've never gotten to do this can I tell you as a viewer it's fun and funky yeah it was not a great funny group no I biffed it

it was horrible I didn't I hated it somebody had a Katia puppet and it just said I'm gonna go smoke meth I thought that was a little fierce Was that Violet I think it was violet That was funny I was like come on I'm so easy You know what I mean

I hated that challenge so much much. I felt so stressed out. Also, that was the beginning of my mental, my mentee be. Yeah, I wrote here, my note says puppets flopped. Oh, it's a huge flop. It was a huge flop. And you got to realize, folks at home on the 405 and the 110, like, if if it flops on television, that's the best. Girl, that's them editing and adding sound effects. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's the best they could come up with. So there's a lot, like, people say, I want to see the uncut version. I was like, no, you don't. No, you don't. You don't. Because it's very bad. You know what? I say that, but When I listen to our live pods What? We're great on the cut. I'm not talking about

You and I are excellent. No, I'm talking about drag race. Oh yeah. They suck. Everyone over there sucks. You and I were incredible. But I mean,

do you know what I'm saying? It's like when a challenge flops. Girl, or like a lip sync. When a lip sync sucks, baby watch the whole thing. Girl. And it will feel like 16 hours.

Especially when it's like, I remember every lip sync. There was a lip sync on all stars. that was nobody's supposed to be here. The extended dance mix version. It's like we're watching, we're watching Bend La Cremm do nobody's supposed to be here, whatever, like for six minutes.

That's actually abusive. Yeah. That's abusive. Kennedy's like, play the track again. Like some people probably can do it, but still. That's crazy. Two and a half minute, Max. They should edit those songs.

I'm sorry. Yeah. They literally just do two minutes. I wrote, so Katie and Violet have a conversation about confidence that I think is very relevant. You kind of talked to Violet about, like, I think you kind of mentioned to her. The reason you're doing good is because you're so confident.

I mean, Violet is confident. 21 years old on Drag Race, unflinching. Yeah, it was a confidence that definitely boarded on arrogance. But what an asset. Of course. In a cutthroat competition, would you rather be mousy and unsure of yourself or a little bit arrogant and very confident? Bob won Drag Race. Yeah.

Wearing makeup like he was Wilson from Castaway. Yeah, with a $3 Amazon A bodysuit. But he was hilarious and confident. And he, I mean, we were talking about it when he was on the body, he said, I'm going to go in that show and win. And he did. He did. He knew he was going to win because he was confident in his ability, which I think is not delusional.

No, it's, it's, I wish I had that. Also, you know that episode where he, I'm not to get back to seven, but like that episode, the acting challenge where he comes out to takes the fur off and it's like, ah, in the body suit. Oh yeah. That's,

he won. Amazing. That's when he won the show. That Wobbley wasn't even written in. Right. It's like, she just did that. That's the person.

It's like, oh, that's the winner. Come on. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. They're there because they know the point of the show

is to be incredible and to have an entertaining show. Not to worry about, uh, that's not the point of the show. Right. It's just the, it's the confidence.

Yeah. She's very confident. Our guest judge is Santino Rice. I've never met Santerran Rice Do you have any first impression or memory of him? No, I mean the only The only like You guys did a walkthrough right?

No Didn't you do a walkthrough in the workroom? He did? You were there. I don't remember that. Maybe you'd already given up. Yes. So I had a panic attack

I had a panic attack in the workroom Which I think God they did not You know The producer that Was talking to me outside It was so, so supportive, such a wonderful person. And, yeah, and I remember Pearl. My story producer was Gil King.

Mine was Oprah. That's so crazy. Mine was Miami-Biolik, and she was breastfeeding her teenager. I've never met Santino Rice, and I kind of forgot that he was on drag race for all those years. Yeah, because I never really cared for him. Certainly didn't care for him in this episode. Well, no, I mean, I looked... It was a Project Runway Star, right?

I'd never really seen Project Runway. Star? Wasn't he a breakout star from that? Yeah, he did not win it, though. Okay. Did he? Oh, I wonder if Mr. Christian Seriano's ever guessed on Drag Race. Yeah.

He'd probably be great at critiqui fashion. I'm sure he has. I'm sure he has. I love him. Yeah. Makes beautiful dresses. Oh, God, he does. Beautiful dresses. Gorgeous counts.

At this point, in the competition, you know what's funny, when they unveiled, before they unveiled Hello Kitty, do you know who I thought it was going to come out? Katie Perry. Oh, I was convinced Katie Perry was going to come down those stairs. Convinced.

I just had an memory unlock. The day before when I was eliminated, if you've been eliminated, which you have, they take you in a room and they give you the spiel of like, you know, you did a great job. It's going to be a great season. You guys are a great cast. You know, don't think, don't worry about losing.

The audience doesn't care. They gave me like a spiel of like, it's going to be great. Don't worry about it. but I remember walking to go get out of drag and I walked by an open like storage area and it was like ceiling to floor stocked with Hello Kitty merchandise

and I remember being like I wonder if that's the next challenge what's it gonna be about and then a year later when I watched it I was so jealous that you guys got to do this Hello Kitty shit and I would have loved to meet Hello Kitty Yeah I didn't care for her that much She doesn't talk

It's true yeah it was like I hated that challenge You did? Oh yeah Yeah. It showed. Yeah, I mean, I like, well, it's so, first of all, I was so deliriously having, like, unraveling, having I'm meant to be, as evidenced by my outfit in the styling. Because I was gone. You're rock.

Yes. Without, I felt like, like, Sandra Bullock, like, in space with no oxygen. Right. You know what I mean? If the best drag queen here went home, what is this competition really about? It's bullshit. It's garbage. It's bullshit.

And, I mean, it's not fun. It's depressing. I was like, Pearl was like, why don't you just make some little, like, Perl was actually trying to help me. She was like, why don't you just make some little Russian, I don't forget what the fuck she said. But I was like, what do you mean? Like, out of what, Pearl, out of what on that table? Well, RuPaul sets up the challenge first.

Oh, yeah. And RuPaul says, this is Hello Kitty. You guys need to create like a fun kitty girl look using Hello Kitty shit. Hello, I didn't get a good look. Was there a lot of fabric? Was there a lot of fabric? No. So there was the shit fucking fabric wall from Fabli.

Fab, fabric planet. Shear, rips instantly. Girl, the nastiest see-through nylon spandex. Sweatshop. Crap. Total crap. With the shitty sewing machine. Hate those singers.

And then a table of junk. If you ever did a drag herriss again, you should bring your own sewing machine. Oh, I would. I just, maybe I just got a fucking, um, a juky, um, cover stitch. I got my little, um, what's that cover stitch?

Cover stitch is, um, um, this is a cover stitch. just going to touch my cock. This is it. The edges of this. Oh, I see. Oh, how nice.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, baby. So instead of having to go in and hem it, it just does it? It is, it finishes all the edges, yeah. Like, professionally. Like, you can make T-shirts with that shit. Yeah. Oh, baby.

Can't wait to see what little yuckies you turn out. Oh, you'll never see these too erotic. Okay, so the challenge. That does matter. You guys, she makes like mostly her own clothes. And we do sit on camera And so the edges do matter Yes, and also I

On dry grace fuck the edges If they tell you about the edges, do this Yeah, eat my ass Truly do this But in real life Would you just slurp on my hole? The Put a boba straw up to my asshole

And taste something from my large intestine Diba? Tapioca pearls Baby Because like when I do this And there's an HD camera And you see the The no

You know what I mean It makes a difference Anyways there were two challenges it was a ball a relatively easy ball with drag race standards I would say

relatively easy ball from this table of hello kitty crap make an outfit and then also you get this head hello kitty head

you make a hello kitty character who has a backstory then you record a voiceover and then you present the character and then you present

your outfit on the right way but they didn't say the character at first so first you guys are working on your outfits and then Rupal goes by the way

and then Rupal brings in all these mascot heads and you guys are like, now what? Now what? Which ironically, skipping ahead, it was the better part of your challenge was the character. It was the only good part of my challenge. How did you come up with it? Well, I brought the dress from home.

Thank you very much. I love that multicolor hound's tooth fabric. Love it so much. I wear the shit out of that of Jacques. I made it into a dress. And then I just thought how funny would it be if it was like, if she was

communist rather than capitalist. Well, you're skipping over a lot. The teeth? Oh, yeah. I mean, like... How'd you come up with the tiny yellow teeth? It was the Soviet Union. And they have yellow teeth? Sometimes. Well, I just wanted her to be like a smoker. She had a cigarette, too. I, can I...

They didn't like it. They didn't like it. They didn't like it. The judges? No, the Hello Kitty people. Oh. They thought I was making a mockery of their precious product. Well, I don't think so Because they give Kelly, hello Kelly Hitty Hello Hiddy

They give her an option to say Would you be friends with And she says no to Pearl The slutty one She says no to yours I think she says yes to the cow So at least they're giving the character An opportunity to distance themselves

From the creation of the thing I hated all the other characters I think Pearls was fun Which Pearls was fun Braun panties with a fur coat With like a hair flip Pearls was fun Pearls was fun

And she's like hair flipping The Cow had didn't care for. Who was the cow? I think Ginger made a cow. What was, violets was? Bailets was cute. It was a little beret. That episode experienced recording that little thing at the end of the day in the little booth

was the only fun. It was the only saving grace. I was truly having a Menti B. It was not fun. At what point did this freak out start and why? It started when we grabbed the materials from the table. And I just, like, I

was So when I'm making something, I need to think about stuff. I'm not good in a rush. I'm not good in a pinch. I don't work well under pressure when I'm on camera. Right. You know what I mean? Like if I'm procrastinating, that's a different thing in my own house.

But like I want to Google stuff. I want to look up Mark Jacobs, 19. You know what I mean? I want to look at references. I want to like do some research. Right. You don't have access to any of that stuff. And I don't have a library of fashion in my head.

Also, none in the shit to me. seemed like usable. I was like this... Well, there's a lot of toys. It was like toys and bubbles, pillows. Crap. Yeah, crap. And I'm not actually that...

I'm not a really creative fashion-wise. I'm not a creative person like that. You know, I make three outfits. So, and I just wanted to go home. You know? I hadn't been to an A.A. meeting in six weeks. That was like very difficult. Not to like boo-hoo myself.

But at that point, I was like an hour. we're sobered out year and a half sober for the first time so that was tough and I was like unraveling and so because watching it like I cried had a panic attack and ugly cried outside I was watching the people who had never seen it and their reaction was is she giving up they said that early in the episode was like is she giving up yeah their perception was you just are kind of choosing to not fight at this point oh yeah 100% accepting death laying down on a six inch puddle and wanting to drink Because you were actively probably the best sewer there, which is confusing. The irony is that I took a relatively non-stretched felt fabric and made a skin-tight cat suit out of it.

Why? Because I know how to make a catsuit. The point is that the garment did not look good, but the garment fit perfectly. I think, I honestly think the garment, I had a bigger issue with the hair. Oh, no, no, no. That's where the real... If you read the right hair... That's where the real cuckoo stuff...

That's like, oh, she's jumped off. She jumped out the window. If you had a cunty, like, updew, with like a boa, an organza boa, I actually think that look could have been fine. I don't know what... Let's get to the looks because the meat of it is the character runways, which is fine. It's like a warm-up for the real runways. And you guys have no performing challenge.

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That was the best thing she's probably ever made on Drag Race. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think she just took a course and glued shit to it, which is she looked valid. Yeah. Kenny looked a fucking mess.

What was with Kennedy's look. She can't sew. And she can't, she can't, her taste level with that kind of stuff was like, she didn't have a MNDB, but she just is not. The mask. She's crazy. She's glued to glue shit to her face. She glued the bows on. She loves to glue shit to her face. Yeah. Yeah. That was a tough look. Yeah. I thought Ginger did a pretty good job. Yeah. I thought Pearls was so cute. It's so adorable. I thought it was so funny. I think this is her worst look of the season. Well, yeah. I mean, it's not going to get fashion week recognition, but it's like, Like, she wiggled down in a little, like a little... Didn't even fitter. Yeah, that's true. I mean, it's a tube. It's so funny, though. I guess, I mean...

Violet literally took... She opened her butt cheeks. Girl! And she sprayed the whole studio. Mary, it took six weeks to... All you little fagic... I actually think they had to burn that studio down because there was so much ass blown in that studio from her hole.

She... And by the way, confidence. Her just going, I have an idea. I'm going to make a head cage. Oh, let's go mod with it. I mean, she... She fucking made a boostie A, I think. She went, she had like, okay,

do, do, do, here we go. And the fur. And she put the fur on the waist. Like, that shit. I remember watching it. I was doing a viewing party in D.C. What's that place in D.C.? Not town the other one.

Engine 10, something. It's an upstairs. I remember being in a bar watching this. Oh, I know what you're talking about. And she came out. And I was like, yeah. And I remember calling her and going, you're going to win.

That was amazing. That was amazing. That was amazing. It truly was before I had really thought that Ginger might not win. So that was my turning point where I go, Violet, I think

might really deserve this. That was my turning point where I was like, I love Ginger, I think you should win. So then it's the lip sync. Were you surprised to be in the bottom?

Does the bear shit in the woods? Is the Pope Catholic? I think it's interesting that you think your outfit was worse than pearls. Are you not? It's the styling. The styling is...

The hair was really fucked. And the pearls? Why did you do that? Mary, why does a crazy woman, why did that woman sash with her own shit in downtown when we had it at their restaurant? We don't ask why. That was during the finale. It was just when.

We need to talk about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We had a lovely, expensive dinner to celebrate season seven in downtown. When we were doing the reunion. Yeah. So she and I had become friends on the phone. Yep. After the season.

We barely talked on Drag Race. We become friends. And so then when we go to film the finale, she and I are hanging out maybe for the first time. Had a lovely splurge on a dinner, fancy. Fancy dinner. And she and are just. still in awe that anything has happened. We're still in awe that we get to do drag race.

We had done the, remember being in awe of touring with Lady Bunny? Yeah. I remember doing the premiere parties with Lady Bunny and being like, I can't but that's her. Like, you know, and now I'm in awe in a different way, you know. But she and I are downtown L.A. and we're walking from dinner and we see this woman. And she has a, kind of a Dorothy Hamel

cropped hair. No, she had long hair. No, she didn't. She did. Maybe she did. She had long brown hair. wearing a bed sheet Bathrobe. Bathrobe open. Completely covered in fecese. No, no tie on the, it was open.

Sashet, Shante, foo on the runway. Walking like. Literally like Naomi Campbell. Naomi Campbell. Walking like. Covered in fecal material. And not the brand fecal matter. Actual shit.

Breasts. She had gone like shitty breasts. And like sunblocks. Yeah. It was like mud mask, but with shit. And I'm in shock. We're like, I'm like, no, I remember you going, oh, work, work, work, work, work, work, work it, work it, work it. So she was going, oh, work, oh, my God, work, because she lifts this shit.

I was like, I still remember it like it was yesterday. She was walking like, y'all faggots can't touch me. She was, she was, she was, she was cutting, she was twist, I mean, she was. Yeah, hitting. It was like, Poo Lander. Very like, Maham Miller eyes. Like, she was giving. And it just goes to show you.

It's, you know, you wear it. Well, like, it's really about... Anus thing as possible. Attitude. She could sell, she could sell diarrhea to a man with white gloves on. Confidence. Confidence. Which I think your outfit, other than a calculator on the chest, whatever,

if you had different hair and different styling and you did not present it, like, it sucked, I don't necessarily think you would have been in the bottom. You were broadcasting, send me home now. Yeah. I think, well, I mean... We're asking for death. Yes, because I, and I, well, they didn't air this, but I told Rupal to send me home. Not a great strategy to win.

I didn't want to win. Right. I didn't want to win. On the main stage, when after Santino literally ripped me a new ass, I was like, all right, faggot, you don't know who I am. Get the fuck out of here. Nice to meet you. At this age, you're like, I have a full head of hair. Don't talk to me.

You know? Yeah. How old were you under? 33. 32. Wow. And, yeah, I was like, I was just, I knew that he was going to read. Read me, read me, read me, read me. It's like, whatever. Okay. And then, but then I, I was so, like, so, like, I was, like, legitimately struggling. So I, and I, I made a comment that I didn't realize, I think ethically, they cannot use this. But I said, like, I'm, I'm freaking out. I haven't been to a meeting. I'm, like, really struggling. So it's, like, basically I was like,

Well, they edited that to RuPaul going, ha, ha, ha, ha, you know. Yeah. You know, but like, Raymond Simonier, they just did that over it, you know. But it was like, and I felt, I was like, oh God, I'm so embarrassed. Like, no media literacy or train. You know what I mean? I was like, I don't think you have to be embarrassed. No, no, no, no.

It is at the end of the day, reality TV. And your obligation as like a cast participant is to operate from a place of honesty. I don't think that's ever, I don't think an audience will ever read that as bad. No, I mean, I couldn't, to a fault, I couldn't, I couldn't fake it, girl. I couldn't fake anything. I know there's rules about not talking about the program. You've told me about that before. So maybe that's bad.

Maybe that's why they didn't air it. Yes. I, after I said it, I was like, oh gosh, I actually called or I got in touch with one of the producers. And Rue would, because Rue is in the program. She would never put that, you know, as an executive producer, she would never let that go. I don't think. And I beg them as like, listen, this is a, a, a huge

tradition violation for this program. I'm not a representative of AA. Please do not include this. Right. You know. And they were

happy to oblige that. But girl, when we, after we did that lip sync and I, in the... Why are you gonna go to after the lip sync?

The way you're trying to go, you're gonna rip off the bandaid and I'm not doing that. So we're in deliberation. We're in the, the untucked... Was five of you left at this point?

Five. Yeah. I just think it's interesting because, I mean, you truly, you truly, the challenge before top four being a sewing challenge this really was about your choice to go home

you could have iced all those bitches I really think you could have you're in the right mindset you could have tore those hose up but I wasn't though I wasn't in the right mindset I was exhausted I was exhausted

right and now you're well rested no I mean like also do you think you at this age would have reacted the same way do you think at this age I would have agreed to to go on drag race? If it was your first time,

if you were still doing drag and they asked you to do it, I think you might. No, I don't have the, I don't, no, because I wouldn't have anywhere near the budget, the, the,

the, also, if Tempest is old at 46, I know, you would have been 42 to do it. I would have been Mrs. Kasha Davis. Love. Yeah.

I, I, no, I couldn't do it. But anyways, when we're in the, before we're, before the lip thing's happening, um,

of course, I am listening to the roar song on the way back to the hotel all, like, over and over and over because I know it's going to happen. Kennedy, it was like so funny. I was like, Kennedy, I was like, bell girl, just maybe don't chop all my limbs off when we're out there. Leave me my shred of dignity, please.

Leave me my hairpiece, you know, like. Just put my head on the table facing out to the camera. Right. Just say, give this letter to my mother. Like, you're going to die in the war. Yeah, yeah. Exile is, you know, give them the dignity of exile. To whom it may concern.

I have a bunch of money buried in rural Massachusetts. Here's where to find it. Yeah. So, Roar starts. Dying in our sleep is a luxury that our kind are rarely afforded. Yeah. My gift to you. Did you didn't, so when the top, bottom two was announced, you knew.

And Violet winning, we all knew.com. So I did not know. I, up until the very, um, up until the very finale in New York, I was convinced you was going to. No, I'm talking about the Hello Kitty Ball. Oh, Mary. It was like, it was on another show. ate it. It was great.

It was incredible. The makeup, the styling, the hair. Creativity, beautiful. She looked like she was hosting. She looked like she was on, she looked like, yeah, she, exactly. She looked like she was on like a Gagliano for a Hello Kitty runway. It was wild. Literally.

Maybe I'll just be her in that challenge for Halloween. Good luck. Oh. At that way. Oh. Do you know what happened to me to get the other day? What? I ordered an address from a design.

designer and I've worn their size this many times and it arrived and I was like let me just try it on I have this exact dress in pink and black and it's from the same designer so I know it'll fit but let's just try it on I didn't check the tag and they accidentally sent me a small and so I was trying it on and I thought it was the same size all my other ones so I'm trying it on and Fina's over and you know Fina's now a toxic skinny person so Fina is basically like well Bertha you were going to need a lot of that farm now no she was was like, should we just E6,000 this to your wide back? Like, she was just like, you are, and I'm trying, and I put on a corset and it still won't zip and I'm like, I have this dress in two other colors. Why is it not fitting? I know I've gained maybe 15 pounds.

There's no way that this is what's happening. And so I check the tag. And then just tape it around the backside. And Fina's like, well, wow. So supportive. Wow. Fina's like, did I mention I have been having a personal trainer? Touch this. Like, oh, whatever.

So then I take it off in the tag says small and I felt so like gooped and gagged. Vindicated. But relieved. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, God. It was awful. So my cat recently, her name is

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Oh, gosh, let's see. Happy Birthday, Fourth of July. Yeah, she does have every holiday. And I did, did I tell you I saw Kitty Perry? No. I went to the Kitty Perry ball last month at an Ingle. Wood. Katie Perry sent me the free tickets, her team.

So I went. It was lovely. And I do love a lot of Katie Perry songs. I was. Mary, the fact that you have omitted this is like, is flagrant. It's flagrantly abusive. It was a month ago. It was July 17th.

I haven't seen him in three months. I know. I went to the show. I did leave about three quarters through just because to get out of Englewood and call an Uber, it kind of just have to leave shows early. So I left a little early. And also my favorite Kitty Berry song is the one. that got away and she's saying a house music version

so I was like grab my purse I was pissed I wanted to sit there and cry because she does versions of it with like where you know with a ballad and I loved and so I was like all right so I left but anyway I love roar but only on like the 100th listen and by the time when we were on drag race

I was not at a stage where I loved that song I wouldn't have wanted that song for lip sync it's kind of a mid tempo it has the only thing is it's got a crescendo yes and I don't like anything that earnest for a lip sync it might as well be like this is me I felt corny boots

yeah I put on my thigh high corny boots and I had to do my little undignified wiggle you should have done that thing that they do on TikTok now where it's like I'm not a stranger to the dark and they take the concealer and write like pig on their cheeks you should have done some shit like that that would so fucking fierce that pig faggot and just just crying

bald like yeah this is me What go V. Whoa. Girl. How about this, though? How about this? Alternative option.

I know Kennedy's going to slay. We all know that. She knows she's going to slay. She's going to pull some stunt. She's going to jump out the stage. While she's mid-air, pulling focus, I'm mid-squat. I have ripped the seam going down the butt of my cat suit, and I am blowing ass on that stage. And when she comes back up, slips, breaks her neck, I'm back.

in the competition. Right. But before the fluid comes, that five and a half pound stainless steel butt plug cracks the stage. I got the eye of the tag. Girl. And you know what else? You could have got it. You could have had a little fishing pole, fly fishing. Yeah. Catch Kennedy on that wig. Rip that fall right off.

I will say I remember Pearl telling me after the fact that you and Kennedy really ate it up and that live it was a really great lip sync. I think I remember telling Pearl, Kachia said she totally ate shit and was horrible

and pro was like that is not fucking true Pro was like she was really good It was the best slip sync of the season I mean I think like I looking What I do what I can't appreciate about my little I have a beautiful cartwheel Great extension and a lovely split Your face looks great

Yeah yeah I mean you can't fuck with that drag race lighting I'm sorry No it's great lighting They get the girls together I love that song I also don't always love when people get off the main stage in general I thought it was like like interesting because I was like

I thought it was like unnecessary. It was certainly cool. Yeah. Balsy and kind of like it was kind of macho. Well it's crazy that you lost the lip sync to Kennedy Davenport and I haven't Oh Although you did You were gladys with cutting that hair off

I can't. What about it? What about it? Did you? Kennedy Easy. Easy. Next. Easy. Loser. Whoa. And it's funny that the only time I've ever won a lip sync Was to one of the best lip-sinkers

I know that's drag race Also what was that song choice? Oh, for All-Stars Well, maybe in the... If you guys liked this, I would love to do All-Stars 2 and 3 sometime But maybe we should space them out We don't want people gooned out too hard

Because All-Stars 2 would be really funny Wrecking Ball as a finale I love that song And it does play all the time The song is fabulous for a finale of a lip sync bring a book Right

Who are I wasn't thrilled Nobody I remember there being two options And the other one was a hip hop song I don't you know I wish it would have been But but Recky Ball plays all the time

And I'm always like this is my $100,000 song With no props With no like support What are you supposed to do Well they told us we could have $25 to use for production a person I swear to God You are fucking kidding

25 whole dollars. That's why Shangela had that big coat on. She had a pinata in there. She was going to hit the pinata with a stick. I swear to God. They break the bank for you gals on All Stars 3. 25 whole dollars. I'm dead serious.

I remember them saying you can use it however you want. And I said, however we want, we can't even buy lunch with $25. I said, nothing. I said, what I'm going to do confetti? It was right after the rose petals thing. So I think they were like, is there a prop you might want? Have they never seen lip sync battle?

A show that eats up the girls. Every single time. You know, I should have done? Put the whole ball of yarn up the pussy knitting. That's what I should have did. Yeah. Or the interior scroll carolice team and you bring your own table, got the scroll. You just pull it out.

For sure. Abramovich just sit at a table and cry for the talent show. Yeah, and then wipe your sweaty face every once in a while. Love. So I actually think you were great in the lip sync. There's this part where Kennedy does a split and you do a cartwheel split. I got the idea. That was Slay.

Yeah. And also what I did really love that. We each chose two different climax moments of the song. Yes. Do you know what I mean? And I thought they both made sense. And Kennedy was in the split doing this thing where she's bouncing on her split and throwing the hair. I actually really love that.

Yeah. I don't love that. And I liked your cartwheel split. I did she get scared to do it on the slippery stage? No, at that point I was so loose. Ready to die. Yes. Yeah.

I was so warmed up too. And I was, I mean, back then, I was very, very flexible. you guys she used to Very flexible and very in shape Very in shape I hadn't been smoking since Well what Ginger made me smoke again She forced you

Yeah Ginger is the X program's worst nightmare Yeah She's the X program Yes Oh yeah yeah that's it Oh yeah that's it Kennedy and I are

Bonded for life And we had Thanksgiving At her house months It was so lovely She's one of the best people That's a fucking good drag queen Hey, this is your favorite sister from season seven. Kennedy, Dadman, boy.

Shut up. Hi, Katia. Hi. Matrix. I love you both. And I love this idea of re-watching and talking about season seven. It was a great season, and I'm so good that I got to experience it with both of you, Katia and I, I think we bonded during that season.

And the best part of season seven is Katya coming up to me and saying, if I could sit in the audience and watch you lip sync this song by yourself, I would do it. I died. And I also like the fact that I like the fact that I like the fact that Trixie, I have the opportunity to come back and fight for the crown. No shade, it's the truth. But I'm glad that we had the opportunity to experience season seven together.

We are the divas of season seven, honey. And can't nobody take that away from us. Is she in a food court? Do you hear all that talking? She said, oh, I was like. She said Shepo-Chapole. She's in the middle of a keynote speech. She, at a corporate conference.

I would read an audio book from her. Yeah. Very soothing. You know, I remember you and her being close. during season 7. She and I got real close during All-Stars, but we, I guess I had no friends in season 7. I would, you know. You didn't, you antisocial bitch.

Yeah. Girl, I fixed the zipper on her chicken costume. Well, I re-sow. I completely want to fix it. You would have given her something else to wear. I was like, the whole time I'm like, the way I would buy a beanie baby of that outfit. Like Kennedy should do a plush of that, like a lobooboo of that look. A plush, a Halloween costume. Oh, Halloween Express. Right between like

slutty cop and hooking. and then you can do it crystallize mask you should do it for Halloween you should make it I'm gonna I will have it mass produced in Guangzhou and then I'll send her a check

every once in a while or a dog costume like a Halloween dog costume dog for what like a dog Halloween costume of that outfit oh an animal costume okay gotcha gotcha

gotcha oh 100% although that's animal abuse it is oh oh in Ptown there was two people sitting outside in front of town hall and they had a QR code

and like you could interact with them for money or whatever and it was to take a picture with the drag dog and there was a dog sitting there with a wig on it's pretty fierce I don't like it it's pretty fierce although I love the guy with at the halftime basketball show with the Chihuahua

wait we didn't talk about the couple getting caught cheating either at the Colplay concert gay this is like so old news now because we haven't filmed in a month? No, a guy and a girl. Straight people.

But doesn't that happen all the time? Well, they were, they got put on the kiss cam and they're both married other people. Why would you? But they were like holding canoodling and then the camera happened and one of them ducked out and the guy left his job. He got to leave. Which I don't know. Cheating doesn't make you a bad CEO. I don't know if that's fair.

It does not. It's your personal. It's your personal. It's the firing squad. There's genocide. There's homicide. Then there's cheating. Right.

No, sorry. It's the opposite. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, I don't know. I hate those kiss cams. I would go in a beagle puss outfit. Yeah.

You know, the nose and the... Beagle puss. You know about that? It's the little, um, the groucho Marx kind of disguise kit. Oh, yeah. Oh, do you know what? Some of these, like, hockey games and stuff, they do like celebrity doppelganger cams. So they'll zoom in on like...

They really open these audiences business, huh? I hate that. You're like bald. They might zoom in and be like, this is Moby. I hate that. And what if you get someone awful? Which I'm sure. I would get like, this is a late in life

AIDS patient. But that's not Celebrity. It's not like what Affliction you look like you have. This person looks fetal alcohol. No, it's Celebrity. This celebrity looks like their Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah. They don't just read you. Yeah. This girl looks like Gabrielle Union with

a lipoma. Like, no, they don't do it a disease. I don't like that though. So you get eliminated. Do you remember what you said to RuPaul to the group when you left? Oh, right. It was like a thing. I remember that. So then you leave.

It was the whimpering whore from Jocks, Emily. Yes. And shout out to the top four. It's a good top four they deserve. And let me tell you something. I thanked my lucky stars because not only was I ready to go home, I was so glad that I did not have to take part in the rest of the season, which to me seemed extraordinarily stressful. Going the whole year, not knowing. No, no, no, no. The finale, creating show

stopping last looks, rehearsing numbers, being bullied online for not deserving your spot in the top three or four or whatever, not knowing that you made the top three until like a week before. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Hold up. By the way, I just saw Thirsty Burlington. She looked gorgeous, of course. She had her long, dark hair. She came to my DJ gig. And she goes, wait a minute. Love that shit. Love her so much. Can we do a little bit? Katy and I are, let's, can we skip the finale?

Is that horrible? Yeah, no, yeah. Okay. So it's born naked. They do this, girl, I don't even remember what happens. Oh, no, let's just skip that whole thing. Who cares? We're doing this season from our point of view.

I don't remember what happens. I don't either. But what I'm talking about is the actual live finale. But what happens during Born Naked? They do that song Born Naked. Is it just a music video challenge? Yeah. Oh, and then they have like, I think, a best drag final.

I deserve to win speech. Yes. So we can go down those looks. A violet goes a very unconventional root. She wears like a top hat and pants very... Oh, I remember that. Yeah. And I think that from a collective, like all considered point of view, like as a collection of looks the whole season, it made sense. I didn't care for it personally in and of itself, but I felt like there was logic there that I understood.

It was an interesting choice. I remember loving Pearl's look that like it's like a, I think a nude boost. with the big hair. Oh, she looked gorgeous. I love that fucking big. Huge hair, beautiful. She looked awesome. She looked lovely in that white.

Yeah. She really did. Anna Kennedy, I believe, did like a true, like, pageant special at the end. She had a rainbow something. Oh, she was in that rainbow dress. Everybody looked great.

They did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's actually, I think rainbow is hard to do. I actually don't mind that. I mean, it's a pride number dress. And it was certainly well done. And it was, yeah.

So then we go to the financial. I have Ginger's look. I really thought, I mean, at this point, I really did still think she was going to win. Yeah. I had moved on to Violet. I had started thinking about it was going to win. But by the way, since we talked last, Ginger Minge won drag race. Give it up for that, ho. She won $200,000. Gunt. Spears. 200. They need to bring it up to five.

Because she probably spent 200 grand getting there. I know. Anyways, congratulations. Congratulations. Congratulations, Ginger. I mean, she's, she's been. She, it's her year. Like she had, she had tried to get it a lot of times. How many, wait, how was, which go around was this? Well, she did seven All-Stars.

Then I think she did another All-Stars. And this is her second All-Stars? Third. Third All-Stars. Then she did Canada versus Mexico. Mexico versus Laos. Laos versus Ukraine. She did Uranus versus Connecticut.

Yeah. She did the 110 versus the Pro-5. She did North Hollywood versus Van Nuys, Rupal's Drag-Raez. Herbaker. Perpake and seven. Santa Monica versus Huntington Beach. Oh, God. Very quickly, I will never forget the day I got the call to do, Canada versus the world.

And I was like, what does Canada ever do to anyone? Rank call? Right. The most, like, Switzerland versus Lichtenstein. Yeah, kind of strange. Very strange. Anyways. So, should we just skip to the finale?

Yeah. I remember coming to film it. How did you figure out what you were going to wear? Oh, I had my friend Ray make. a really cool I thought it was cool a jumpsuit a cape that was

kind of like Twin Peaks inspired like the Black Lodge and I thought it was cool I had another hair choice but at the very last second

like I always do I just throw on the old gaga girl you know what I mean and I remember filming that I had a blast such a fun time

filming that live I did too yeah fun I got to tell I think I told where I wanted her pee in my mouth or something like that

you did and then we met Miley Cyrus Yes. Oh my god. This is like Aeros Tour Miley. It was like tongue out Miley. And then... And then what? Flood of Australia.

Oh! I think we all know what happened then. This is when Katsi and I got kicked out of Australia. Yeah. The next week. The next day. Next day. Yeah. But before that, what in the party in New York for the crowning, I'll never forget because that's when the girls debuted their music videos.

The live, live, live. Yes, yes. Now, this was the real legendary event. You're glossing ahead too much. No, no, no, no, no. Do you remember in New York and Voss? Yes. It's called like Studio 56 or something.

Okay. So, girl, maybe when the lights went out in Studio 50s. If we're going to talk about that, I'm going to freak out. But I knew the winner was Violet when the music video came up. The music video was amazing. When Betty came up, when Betty was horny. I had full body chills. I was like, I was like, I know.

I'm not joking. I was like, Violet, Betty. was fucking cool. I literally had, produced by Tommy Lee. I literally had full body chills. I was like, I was like, this is. It's horny. It's perfect. Don't worry, darling. Oh, it's so good. And it's still kind. It's cut. Diff's ready. And it's like industrial club trap music is fucking fierce. And every, it was just cunt, cunt. And pearls in it in the latex like a maid uniform. Cunt. So fucking cunt. And then Pearls was fine. Ginger's was really floppy. It would. just a bunch of people in t-shirts. And then, so I was like, okay, Violet's got the crown. Well, yeah, so there's the crowning event, which is basically the viewing party for the finale, right? Pretty much. And the top six performs.

And I had just technically been top six because of fame. So it really should have been her, because I came back. I don't think we wanted fame. But she lived in New York. Who cares? But I remember Violet was getting crowned, right? And it was hosted by Bianca, yeah. Violet was getting crowned on stage.

And then she did a number where she got in that. I think it's aerials, but it's a loop. A Lyra. Lira. She gets on that, and she's up in the air spinning. I had already gotten out of drag, and I was in the back of the hall with a card table selling t-shirts with my face on it while she was up on the loop. Making bank.

And I remember people, can I say, people used to make fun of me on season seven. They'd be like, you're the merch queen, girl. You're always just, you always got to sell your shit. It's like, and I always will. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Sorry, I live in a mansion.

And RuPaul stamped me the most richest drag queen in the world. But also, it just goes to show you to me, it was like, like, I know we're all supposed to be Queen Boop, but I don't have an assistant and help. And if there's fans of mine here, I'm going to go set up this card table. And so I'm watching her up on the loop spinning while like swiping people's like cards. You're doing your stripe payments. They're like buying the shirts for me and I'm like, look, she won. You're stealing one more cash. Right. But I mean like, girl, there ain't no nonprofit. Thank you. I remember people just being like, girl, you're like, you always got your merch. You

always trying to sell something. I'm like, as we all should. And you're wearing it. So shut up. at the time being like what do you mean kasha davis you don't sell shot glasses right well to me i was always just like the opportunity for merchandising seemed to be like to me i felt like people were making fun of it and i was like why aren't any of you selling things with your face on it your fans want you to yeah and if you don't someone else will somebody will draw a picture of you and put it on a mug and sell it why wouldn't you do it yeah yeah and um so the finale, I remember it was just a long day. I remember creating to cry talking to Rupal and say, thank you. I just was so grateful. Like, once you get over the season being over, and it's really

about the top three. Oh, wait. I remember being at rehearsal for the top. I remember being at rehearsal for the finale? And they told Kennedy informally that she hadn't made the top three. Do you remember this? I don't. I don't think I was there. No, we were all there. We were all, do you remember how we would walk in? Oh, it's Sasha Bell. And she would come out and walk cluck the cluck and fuck the fuck it's so and so remember we would all come out and do like a walk in the beginning of the episode of from the dally i remember we're all rehearsing it remember ruPaul came and rehearsed to real is what you feel or whatever i forget what song she was doing um this was the dress rehearsed yes we were all right paul was out of drag remember

she walked in and said hi horrors yes they do so i remember they just came up and informally told kennedy like hey the the the numbers are in whatever you are our lovely top four And I remember feeling like, I remember feeling like she's older than me and she's a pageant queen. She's, she's lost more times than probably any of us. Just, that's what it takes to be a pageant queen. But I remember feeling bad and feeling like I wanted to bring it up and say, like, good job. But feeling like I don't want to overstep either. Why the timing?

I just remember it this way. Maybe it didn't happen this way. But I remember this being told to her, like, the day of the rehearsal. That seems cruel. That, maybe I'm wrong. That seems cruel because didn't they have to prepare numbers? Yes, but I don't remember. I mean, I wasn't privy to that.

But I just remember finding that. I do know, I, I believe I do remember that she was told not right away. No, I think she was told like, like at the end. That is so, which is why she didn't do numbers at the end. If she, if she had, I should ask her if she had a costume and a number prepared, if that is the case, that's fucking cruel. Let's call her. Yeah. Call Kennedy Davenport. See who she answers first.

Calling Kennedy Davenport mobile. That sounded bitchy. Calling Kennedy Davenport. Some people. Girl, what's the T? What honor do I owe this phone call? Well, we just listened to your voice note and we were, oh, Kach is calling you. Wait, can I join the call?

I know she is. Don't pick up. No, can I join it? Can you hear her? Yeah, I can hear her. Wait a minute. Okay. Can you hear me, Kennedy?

Can you hear Katia? No, she can. Yeah. Oh, you can't. Okay. So, we're talking about the finale, and I hope this is not a source subject. When did they inform you that you would not be a part of the top three? Before we came back.

So, wait, what is the timeline in terms of, of like the last episode in the live show and everything. No, no, no, no. When we left from filming. Okay. And we, you know, after we got through him filming

and we came home. Yeah. It was like maybe a week before we had to return. That is, that is fuck. I'm sorry, that's fucked up. See, I, Kennedy, I remember, I thought you found out

like the week before the finale or the week of, right? That's what she just said. Like the day of, day before? Y'all can tell you that this, I mean, I don't know if y'all remember. but I was really like in my feeling. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I remember it being like just before the finale you found out, right? I think that timing is cruel. Yeah, that shit hurt like a motherfucker because remember before we left, they was like, oh, they were telling us what the four of us was going to do. That is so fucked up. That's what I mean. I thought I remembered you almost having to prepare your finale and then not doing it. Yeah, no, they was saying, they was telling.

telling us to get ready because we were going to have to do a, you know, a whole production and stuff, the top four of us. And then they just, then they changed their minds. Damn. Well, I could, I can remember the time. Well, that sucks. It does. That's why I tell, I tell the story every time.

The only person that knew was Jasmine. And when we went all on, when we all went on stage. to rehearse, she was like, sister, if you want to tear this shit up right now, you said. You should have torched the blaze. Kennedy, I had this memory of us being for rehearsals for finale. I have this memory of us all finding out, like, at rehearsal, because maybe you knew longer than us, but I thought you also had just found out. No, I know.

I knew they told me not to say nothing. Okay. This makes more sense. Do you know how they are? Shady, horrible. Gutted. Well, girl, this season was so good and you really ate. It's so good to rewatch.

Thank you for the voice note. Of course. I ain't heard from you in forever. I guess your number still the same. She got turned off. The phone. I'm just kidding. Thank you.

I love you so much. And I'll talk to you soon, my dear. Yeah, love you, Kennedy. Bye. Bye, girl. I love y'all. Bye, man. A real bitch picks up the phone.

Thank you. A real bit. And she sounds like. She's still at the airport. She moved in to the Dallas Fort Worth Airport. Yeah, that's a bummer. But I, oh, so wait, last thing, though.

The truth is, though, they have to do the thing where audiences vote. Twitter has to go, which one do you want to pick? Don't leave it up to them rotten, rotten crabs out there in Twitter. But doesn't Twitter pick the top three? That's why we do the... And so I think they couldn't know until Kennedy got the least votes or whatever.

the night the lights went out in New York City Oh yes Girl do you want to tell it I don't want to tell it There's a legend There's now gather around children There's a legend And whether it is

Did you know this story? The veracity of this story is irrelevant Okay like campfire tales I feel like you're the little kid at the start of weapons Being like Yeah There's a story in our town 17 a.m

Actually it probably was around that time So New York City The live boss event where we all perform, and the winner is crowned live by Bianca Dorrio, which we just talked about. And there's a red carpet event. Do you remember what you were to the red carpet? I do. I loved it, and I don't remember what it was. There's this picture of B. You and her are talking, and I'm in a Barbie rollerblading outfit. Oh, yeah. That's when I first met our manager, and I thought he was terrifying.

Terrifying, the terrifier. And I got to chat with Bianca, who I love so much. But, yeah, I wore a black dress with a weird turban or something. um the um oh gosh the she's out selling merch and um she's like slinging her wares and it gets time to um to announce the winner and what happens the electricity in the building goes off three two one the winner of rupal's dragway season seven is the lights go out legend has it the huge check was Scooby-Doo swapped in a flash and a name was scribbled out and another one, the check was swapped

and then another name was scribbled in. Violet Chachke received the check, the winning check. I've always wanted to receive one of those big checks. Like Happy Gilmore. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think those are the checks you bring to the bank, though. I would. And also, I would keep it. That'd be so fun to keep in your house.

Of course. A giant check, like publisher's clearinghouse? It's amazing. It's incredible. Do kids today know about those commercials where someone knocks on the door and just gives you a crazy check? Girl, they don't know about checks. But that's not a joke.

No, for real. Gen Z. They don't know how to check. They have to write the, they have to write the, on that line. They have to spell out 140,000 and zero 100. Yeah. I remember in family consumer economics, which is what my high school called Homeck, we had to write fake checks and balance a fake checkbook

but the teacher was like I don't care what you guys make the expenses for have fun with it and the memo put whatever you want and I remember Mariana my partner in the class her check said the memo said my nasty pussy

and we were like high schoolers and I was like holy shit girl how much was it though I remember everybody thinks they're being edgy like break control whatever and she was like my nasty pussy At a small school in Wisconsin

My titials, my ass, my kook-kut It's fierce Love that But you know I guess now that we're done with seven I really did love the season And I will say at the time Had the audience hating it so much

Was surprising to me But re-watching it It has issues The season of Drag Race has issues It has entertainment value issues Of course it does Yeah And it follows

It's following six Which is incredible I know And after it is All-Stars 2, which is incredible. And 8 is so good. Kim and Bob and Naomi's season is so good. I think. The Madonna runway with nine kimonos.

Lift for that shit. Oh, I know. That is so funny. Madonna noted Asian artist, like, love. Everybody literally thought the same, like, basic thing. I'm going to be different and lazy. But, like... We get Bob in the Amazon bodysuit on the rollerblades.

We get Bob in the Boy Scout uniform. You know, but the thing about season 8, it was boring for me because I knew he was going to win. He was so good. It was so good. It was like, where's the tension? There was none. I was such a Kim. She, like, stand and still am.

I was rooting for that hotel last second. I was, I was rooting for her to learn how to walk. She is, but she is so, I mean, the looks so good on that show. And Naomi. I mean, Kim was like literally walking art every time. Every time on a budget. That was her first season of a drag race. Yeah.

And that's, that's the, that's the, that's the country part. It's not the all-stars, rich girls. This is like pure creativity. Yeah. It's fierce. Like my hella kitty look. Like your hello kitty look. You know?

I had no money. Just pure genius. Do you have any main overarching? Like, I remember having this moment at the finale where I got to, RuPaul did this thing to all of us where he goes. Is there anything else you want to say, basically? And RuPaul was really looking at my eyes. And I remember just saying thank you.

Yeah. And we almost cried. It was so important to me that I had one moment to just express gratitude. And I'm sure for Rupal, because of drag race, she hears thank you from young cross-dressers constantly. And so it's just probably, I needed to say it. It wasn't that, it wasn't like, there's been 25 seasons. Yeah.

This was still kind of early. I think she, well, I know she still had a good time. Yeah. I just, to this day, rewatching it reminded me of like the gratitude. Yeah. I felt like make a wish level like, well, not make a wish. I felt like I'd made a wish. Yeah.

I felt so lucky to be involved and so grateful. And I just kept thinking, at what point do I get an opportunity to tell RuPaul this? I feel the same way. I'll never forget. She says, you are a freak and I freaking love you. And inside, I, like, exploded. Yeah. Like, I was like, okay, that's all I ever need to hear for the rest of my life.

Yeah. I'm good. I'm a RuPaul stand. I always will be. Drag Race made me more of a stand. And the older I get and drag, the more longer I do drag, the more I am in awe of Rupal doing it this long. Every interaction with her has been very, very, very, very special with me. There have been very few of them.

It's that and then her flip me up from the restaurant window. Do you ever hear my lights out story with Rupal? Did she touch you? No. I was a guest on like season 11, I think, for a mini challenge. In the car. No, no. Oh, that was also awesome. Jump scare.

That was also awesome. Also, in the script, there was no slap. And RuPaul was like, can I slap her? And I was like, sure. Can I slit her throat? Like something about me. She was like, I'm going to hit this bitch. But I came in for some kind of mini challenge.

And RuPaul and I were in the workroom alone. And she. Fucked you. No, there was the lights went out in the studio. That happened during Hello Kitty, by the way. Oh, it did. Yeah. The air conditioning.

Oh, fierce. So that happened to us on AllStars too But I was sitting and you know When you're not competing on drag race And it's the thing where Rupal is using you for a walkthrough Have you ever done that? Yeah Yeah it's way more informal

Oh it's fabulous So Rupal and I are sitting there in the dark And they're waiting to fix it She's in her suit and I'm in my drag And it was like my dream Undiluted one on one time Off camera Yeah

And she she knows about us But obviously isn't privy Like so privy So she's asking about you and I she's asking about music she's asking about managers like basically asking a working drag queen i felt like what's got what is your career like what are you doing and i had this opportunity to sit in the dark and talk to her which is very high intimacy to just sit in the dark with ruPaul's voice in the dark workroom chilling very chilling kind of like on the news when they say bye and they

just dim the studio lights it was like that that's fucking pig shit right yeah i know i love that shit thank god for the studio the lights going out because it was very that's very that's a little bit that's special. And RuPaul said, who owns your music? And I said, I do. And she said, outright. I said, yeah, she said, that's really important. Can I under that as much as you can. Like, you know, and I remember anytime you get somebody like RuPaul to give you real wisdom, you, you file it. You file it. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, I send her a flurry of, um, tweaker tweets once. And, um, and she was like, the DMs. Oh, yeah. Oh, good. On Twitter. Because I guess she follows me on Twitter for some reason. And then

I, she, I've told you this a million times. She's like, basically it was like, I love you so much, I love you so much. And she's like, you're so welcome. Now would love and respect, get your ass to a meeting. This was after the All Stars 2 finale. Yes, it must have been. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was high on weed. Why were you a burn victim? We'll get there.

I just thought it was cool. That's all. It was, it wasn't any deep thing. Oh, I won Miss Congeniality and Ben Delacriman can suck it because I got cash in She got some stupid gift certificates. She got an overstock.com gift certificate and you got $5,000 cash. Yeah. Also, do you remember when Rupal was about to announce the winner and called you?

Oh, my God. The Golden Girls fake out. Yeah. So, oh, Jesus Christ, I can't, I'm sorry, I didn't rewatch this. Because everybody, I, so they were not prepared for the fan reaction for me. Like, they just, and nobody was. It didn't make any sense. I'm still not.

Yeah. I don't see it. You suck. No, but like, they, like, the, um, like, the, idea that katty was robbed was not on the table at all not in the room no no gosh no no no no but because i was you so much robbed of a childhood you're like yeah robbed of a challenge win um or like you know i was i used so much in the confessionals whatever that i was liked a lot and um it wasn't miscgeniality was like what do you call it when they're just like like a fan favorite that's it

that's it that's it um there therein was like hey we want to do this gag and i didn't know the reference and I actually still don't. I don't either. It's a Golden Girls reference, I suppose, I guess. And it's like a fake out. And I remember the audience going nuts. And Violet being like, what the fuck? Oh, she had her crossbow. Oh, yeah. She was ready to kick.

And if Violet has a crossbow, Ginger has a bomb. Yeah. And Dural has a flame thrower. Up her ass. Yeah. Right. She's got a jet pack on. She's going to, yeah. Nothing beats a jet two holiday. Now, now you can say 50 pounds. person. Wait, that thing you sent me about different, the 6,000 pounds, American

versus UK. It's fierce. I thought of you first. These fucking fat porkers. Watchers these porkers destroy their lives. Yeah, it's fierce. Wait, wait, wait. So I go give her a glass of a drink of water. It was very fun. I felt very honored and then that's it.

I didn't even know about that gag. It made me laugh. I got to show this to you. I keep getting Sylvia Brown shit and I have to show it to you. Girl, by the way, wears your wigs. She sure does. surprised to see father's brother disappeared about 20 something

years ago and the old family has no idea whether he's alive or dead he drowned he drowned thank you

thank you I'm sorry wait sorry by the way unwilling to elaborate he drowned we gotta go

we gotta go thank you all so much is there anything else you want to say about season seven streaming on Paramount and Peacock or whatever did you have any

overarching thoughts about I was so mid I was so mid it's not not even a question. I just, I'm a good, I think I'm talented, I think I'm interesting, but girl, she was, she was middy van driver.

It just, the whole thing made me recall the fear. Yeah. I don't feel afraid to be on TV now. No. During season seven, I was scared all the time all day. That's what I'm telling you. I think that I actually had, I felt at the end, I was like, my nervous system couldn't take it anymore.

Right. Look, when we had to line up for the maxi challenge, I, I was like, I was, I was, I was, I was, Every time I felt I was going to vomit, every time. Yeah. And I just, the only time I didn't was when John Wanners. When they said, ugliest dress was the category, I finally relaxed. The only time. I understand why.

I got to put some more shampoo in my TikTok here. All right. Okay. Well, thank you guys for doing that. If you ever want us to do All Stars 2 and 3, I think we should. I think we should. I think we should swap back and forth, though. What do you mean?

Like one episode All Stars 2, one episode All Stars 3. Go back and forth. You think? I kind of want to. Because then, because we weren't, we need to, I don't know. It's a lot to cover. Yeah, but then you, I get to get, like, kind of be at the hell and then you, we could switch off. That doesn't make sense to you?

Maybe it doesn't make sense. We can do whatever we want. This isn't the fucking pit stop. Joe Jorbino doesn't control me anymore. Fuck you, Joe. Okay. Okay. I hope you guys enjoyed this.

If you didn't, fuck off. All right. Bye. Bye. Thank you.