The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - Ten Queens, Five Suitcases, No Dignity: All Stars Season 2 with Trixie and Katya

Episode Date: June 30, 2026

Dim the lights, dear podcast friends, and settle in for a delightful tale. In a world where no cohesive thought process exists for long, two drag queens sat before their microphones in a Pepto-Bismol-hued studio and caused such merry confusion that even the producer could not help but guffaw. In this colorful void, the queens told their listeners about a secret Patreon kingdom filled with bonus tales, extra chatter, and all manner of delightful nonsense for their most loyal subjects. Before long, they began remembering the day one of them appeared on RuPaul’s Drag Race All Stars Season 2, arriving with an air of hope, optimism, and the undeserved courage of a knight entering an enchanted castle. And so the recording continued in cheerful disorder, until they had somehow transformed an ordinary afternoon into a golden tale of friendship, foolishness, and comedy gold. To check out their royal Patreon, simply head to: https://www.patreon.com/c/trixieandkatya Patio season is here and these deals won’t last! Get your outdoor space ready for way less at: https://Wayfair.com Try Mood's incredible line of cannabis gummies! Save 20% off your first order with promo code BALD at: ⁠⁠https://Mood.com⁠⁠ Get a free can of Olipop! Buy any 2 cans of Olipop in store, and we'll pay you back for one! Just go to: ⁠⁠https://drinkolipop.com/BALD⁠⁠ Patients shouldn’t suffer because of their laws. Our communities deserve better. To get involved and support Planned Parenthood, text UPDATE to 22422 Listen to Heads Will Roll: Heir Apparent, available now on Audible! To start listening today, go to: https://Audible.com/headswillrollseries To get simple, online access to personalized, affordable care for ED, Hair Loss, Weight Loss, and more, visit: ⁠https://Hims.com/bald Follow Trixie: @TrixieMattel Follow Katya: @Katya_Zamo To watch the podcast on YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/TrixieKatyaYT⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out our official YouTube Clips Channel: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/TrixieAndKatyaClipYT⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Don’t forget to follow the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you want to support the show, and get all the episodes ad-free go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://thebaldandthebeautiful.supercast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out future Live Podcast Shows, go to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://trixieandkatya.com/#tour⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To check out the Trixie Motel in Palm Springs, CA: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.trixiemotel.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Listen and Watch Anywhere! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://bit.ly/thebaldandthebeautifulpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Trixie: Official Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.trixiemattel.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@trixie⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter (X): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/trixiemattel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   Follow Katya: Official Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.welovekatya.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/welovekatya⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter (X): ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/katya_zamo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   #TrixieMattel #KatyaZamo #BaldBeautiful Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I thought I've got new. vocal stems which what are we dropping um he's a horny little bastard what is that from this song what about you know what we know what we've been saying around the house me mr wonderful dolores bring me my china pig you ever just listen to yourself at 2 a.m on the way i love it i love it i was like i also have another one stem from the same song does your mother know what you're up to does your mother know That's me in the kitchen at 2 a.m. Yes.

Hello. My other favorite is my other favorite is being high in the house and going, hello? You know what? My biggest fear is because my house is haunted. Yeah. If a voice that I don't know what? You know what I mean? Oh wait.

Oh, wait. Oh, wait. Oh, I also got an old standby. Caudale. Who's Caudelle? From Hannibal. Mason Verger. Oh, God.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been on a horror terror. I just rewatched. Yesterday I woke up at like 7 a.m. and watched Get Out like seven in the morning and I haven't seen it in years. Yeah. The great film. Yeah. That flavor, that crunch and that flavor, that crunch and that flavor. Yeah. When the grandma's wig falls off with a scar on the forehead and attacks like, it's country. It's country. The slow roll, the slow unravel. Yeah. Allison Williams is drinking milk with her buttoned all the way buttoned up. Yes. Yeah. Also when she's on the phone, talk. My favorite character, the friend who works for Tatea. Yeah, it's great. So good, so good. You know what? I think TSA does no shit. They know what you got in digging. They know about your liquids. What do you think the

training is on TSA? Is it? It's just X-raying liquids. Do you think it's a weekend or do you think it's like it's probably ongoing? Do you need an undergrad? No. I think it's they onboard you immediately and they just, you learn on the fly. Oh, does your mother know? Okay, so I guess we mentioned this is kind of awkward for me because it's the pot and this episode is launching a kind of a passion project kind of summer rewatch a kind of side project where we're going to watch the greatest season of ruPaul's drag race ever that you captain the ship of RuPaul's Drag Race All-Star season two can we get a clap around the house a little commotion for the second season of All-Stars I have so many

Mother, no. I had so many, before we really get into it, I would love to talk to you. I feel like I'm Diane Sawyer. Thank you. And I'm Courtney. And Whitney. And Andy Dick. Smoke crack.

I free base. And I just think we have to set the time because it was 2016. That should be a tear. A tear of our Patreon. What? I don't smoke crack. I freebase. Oh, well, why don't you break them the news then if you said the P word?

Oh, listen, I did the P-sler. And I'm just going to follow on. to follow through. The P-SLR. We cannot call a Patreon. We'll see you guys over on the P-Sler. Does your mother know what you're up to? The P-Sler.

We have been slow, soft-launching, soft-launching the P-Sler for a while. Yes. Because we keep saying we're gonna put things behind a paywall. Now we're ready to kick it into the atmosphere. Kick it! I want you to tell them. And so this is a video that I never thought we would make.

But we're here and we're making it. And, um, Basically, I'm breaking my silence for the both of us because we are starting a Patreon or a Patreon, depending on how you pronounce it. Or a Peasler. A pieceler. It's known whether Patreon, patron, or Patron, it will be henceforth known as the Peaceler and we are going, we're hitting the ground running, as they say.

Yes, we're still going to have our normal podcast, of course, but this is, I mean, I was thinking about it in the car on the way here, Volvo XC60, huge deal. And I was like, this is kind of our side quests. It's our side quest of the Baldwin and the beautiful. My main quest. Main quest, but side quest. Oh, I hope nobody fucks me. And for those of you who love to listen to it for free every week, like, we will still be here doing it.

Oh, this is. Yeah, no. It's like, this is not a reroute or you're not like, you know when they say it's like you get in the, you get in the car and they say, we're actually not going to airport. We're going to kill your grandma. That's not doing that. We're going. This regular trip will still be going. But then there's also another route.

Right. There's another route. we don't take the highway. We go through the side. We go through the scenic route. The byway. The byway. The quaintiff pass.

Yes. Free to the 101. No problem. Barham Boulevard. Yep. But the main thrust of this is that it's not, this is a legitimate, creative endeavor that I'm actually very proud of. We've been filming for months. Yeah.

I'm in dire straits, and yet, I still have not succumb to the seduction of the cash grab. No. No. And I'm not, I'm not getting any of this money. It's not going to you. No. No. As far as I concerned, absolutely.

Does your mother know? Absolutely. And I also want to say for those of you, because Joan just did that beautiful piece on, yeah. And it really like, and it made me reflect and want to reconnect with our co-collaborator Pete Williams.

So a lot of the Patreon, almost all the Patreon content you will receive. Yeah. Is from the trifling minds. Yes. Of me, you and Peter. Peter. Peter come in the frame.

Peter come in the frame. Does your mother know what you're up to? Pete Williams, the director and shooter of, um. Yeah. And I'm going to tell you, I have gotten first look at the footage and there's already at least three long pieces, very long, three times as long as most on episodes, sometimes four times long. And they are so good. And I am able to have a. Thank you for crouching. Yeah. He's like, he's like, he's like, poor. Thank you for crouching. He said, I better put on my nude colored shorts and go crouch on camera. What a whore. Yeah. He's got the he's got the, um, the good old, uh, sensitive. bar built in so it doesn't catch any footage.

Listen, she grew up in Utah. She's making up for lost years. Yes, she is. And she's doing a great job. No, the, the, the, first of all, we have four episodes or three, three, four episodes of behind the scene stuff from the out of studio out in the wild. Adventure time. And this is not some, some half-bass bullshit man on the street stuff.

We're in a, we shut down a whole thrift store. We went in there, gallivanting. Yeah. It's so, it's so good. It's so funny and so well done. And then Mr. Peter really yanked it off. Yeah. And also I want to say, you know how you and I hate the only fans where it's $40 a month and it's just an underwear pick?

Burns every two years. Burn so many times. Burn so many times. We are the only fans that for your dollars, we're giving you. Yeah. We're giving you the fist. Free preview is a 40 minute fisting video. 100%.

And that's what we're doing. Okay. So basically our first tier is I go through hell listening to ads. Never add. I don't want to do ads again. I go through hell listening to ads. Five dollars. Okay.

Take my money. I don't want those ads. So all the people who hate ads. Or just want to skip ads? Yeah. $5. $5. Less.

How about this? I was going to say for the price of a latte, guess what? We're living in Los Angeles for a price of two lattes. No, sorry. For half the price of a latte, that's what I meant to say. Half the price of a latte, you can get access to ad-free full episodes. Yeah.

For 20% of the price of a vodka soda in West Hollywood. Tea, though. No, tea. Mary? Actually tea. tell you all something that I think is so shocking. I went to a poll party in Hollywood. I went by myself.

Yeah. Brave. Biked there. Brave. Down Hollywood Boulevard. Got one drink. $20. I want you to guess how much one drink was at this hotel.

It was a double shot of Espolone with soda. I don't know. $46. No, you're joking. I'm dead serious. What do you mean? Esplone. $46.

Does your mother know what you're up? Espelone is a tequila. Esplone also costs $26. for the full bottle. Okay, so this is what I'm saying. Okay. So where is the, where's the grip happening here? Why don't you just go to Costco?

So as far as our content is concerned, we're giving you the, um, the, you basically get three nights at the Hilton. Oh my God. Okay. And they fuck you. They fuck you. Unlimited room service. And they fuck you.

Oh, he's a dirty little bastard. Mr. Hilton comes down and fucks you. Let's talk about what's in tier two and three. So tier two is review, recap, recast. Yeah. So you're going to talk about the rest of the. stars so you get so we're giving you a flavor an amuse bouch or the whole thing of the first couple

episodes or whatever we're doing reviews recaps recasts which is what i'm my passions right now yeah i have a phone i have a phone app called notes yeah and i have i'll type a movie and i will recast it myself for my own enjoyment love right now i've been working on the hunger games okay recasting the hunger games cat piss ever stream most people right now are lesbians i'm trying to I'm trying to switch it up though. Yeah. The Sapphic switch. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Fures. And then we're doing recap. We're doing movie reviews. We're doing recaps of RuPaul's Drag Race. I'm excited for the Drag Race one because I had a really good time doing seven last year. Yeah.

And All Stars 2 is so good. It's really action packed. And I'm not in it. It's all joy for me. Right. And also can I just want to say this is the cast. You guys are all so good. I know.

For how old the season is 10 years ago. It's amazing. Yeah. Well, you know, Well, we'll get into it. I'll save my thoughts for the camera. But like the, yeah, no, it's great. It's really good.

And I, whether or not you have, we're going to watch it again, I think it'll be, it's a lovely season to talk about. And then we have a third tier for the top tier Pussy Premium Divas. Yeah. And that's all this extra content. Like, we're talking flying Pete to Canada to film out of the country. This is like Emmy Award winning featureettes. And we haven't won anything yet.

But we will. But there's chatter. There's chat. And we're not doing payola. That's where you come in. You give us money. Then we'll buy the Emmy. Right.

But it's no, I mean, I think they're great. I don't want to watch. I am old and I don't want to spend one minute on my life watching something I don't want to watch. That is the tea. And I've gobbled up every single minute of these featureettes. And they're so fabulous. They're so fabulous. I'm also excited because honestly, we have a PhD in free content on the internet.

Yeah. We have put out thousands of hours of shit together. Yeah. And I'm excited to put out something that is like the direct-to-consumer farmer's market experience, homegrown. Come in to my garage. Yes. I'll sell you a watch. It's very that.

This is me coming up to the street. It's open. And the watch works. These are my doony handbags. Come get one. Cocaine. But anyway, but if you just want to stay with us on the pod,

you can just keep doing that. Things are going to change. No one's going to hurt you. You don't have to choose who to live with. It's like, oh, I want to live with YouTube. I want to live with Patreon. No, you don't have to make that decision right now. We're not going to drag you in a court.

No. You rip you away from your mommy or daddy. And if you listen to the normal pod like you're in the car right now, you will just continue to get the normal pod in your own. life. Yeah. And then instead, but the good news is I'm breaking this now is that instead of ads, we're going to do kumbaya, my lord, kumbaya instead of ads. There's a feature that it's a hidden button, but you can press it. But we are so excited about this Patreon. It's going to be really something special. And that's why we've waited so long. We didn't we didn't just jump on the Patreon

bandwagon, a bloodthirsty monsters, creatures trying to scound just great us. They corded us. They cornered us. They coroner us. In the Jewish faith, you have to request to convert three times. Yeah. They did it like seven times. No, the rabbi says to say no three times. Did you know this? Oh, it's not about us with Patreon.

I'll pay it. It was like, no. Then come back later. No, come back later. It was very that. I'm listening. Yes. It was very, you know what else happens?

We had to wait for us to get a little more dire financially. Things had to get a little darker. They had to wait for the chapter 11 ink to dry. Absolutely. So I'm excited. But can we stop blurbing because I want to talk about drag race. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been waiting to talk about this shit, girl.

Well, I'm a very special surprise. Some of the shit from this season is shit that I put on when I'm drunk just to watch it. Okay. Like, what? Reger wrote you. Oh, yeah, yeah. The residuals. Redjuro you.

Redju. I'd be putting this shit on just to watch it. Yeah, you know what? So, yeah, I met, I met this guy and then he said something fun. Let's move on. Yeah, it was, it's great. It's really great. What do you have to surprise this with?

Well, I don't know if I should drop it now. We'll get into the episode and then I have a special surprise from one of the contestants. Just a shit. Oh. one of the contestants. I don't know if I should drop it now. You stand up and the turd falls out of the bottom of your leg. Shake it out on your white sneaker.

Yes. So I got to think, you and I were just maybe starting, uh, or had just started or hadn't started on? Now, I was, I remember very vividly, I got the, well, I started calling designers. And by designers, I mean designer, because I only knew one. Right. And I called Jane Doe from Nina Kate from Jane Tolle Latex when I got the list of stuff. I was in England.

And this was very soon after season seven. If we remember, it was very soon aired. Yeah. And then there was season eight. And then all stars two. It was like months later. It was in the summer, right? It was in this, yeah.

I think it was like maybe eight months after this season. It was not a full, I could be wrong about that. But I don't think so because it was like 2015, 2016. No, it wasn't a full year. Because I only think there was one. Because you and Ginger had just done like the filmed a season. Then they filmed our season. And I don't even think at the time of filming.

That's right. It had aired yet. You guys filmed right after season eight. I think the workroom was still set up and everything. Mary, this was logo TV, baby. Pete was there. This was logo TV, honey. Oh, logo golf channel.

I mean, like, where is it? Can't find it. Doesn't exist anymore. It's on the fourth golf channel. It's on ESPN 8. It's on G4. ESPN ESP. I just, I remember we had just done besties for cash or like whatever.

Yeah. Or we had just done that fashion photo review around the time you got that. And then maybe we started, uh, because I feel like I remember you coming to do in All-Stars drag outfits. The last episode. Oh, yeah, because I, right? I think I can, I can badmouth the person now. Who? Can I badmouth somebody? Are you kidding?

I live for this. Do you not watch an 11-part series on TikTok about someone's divorce? Do you know how N-I-M with bullshit right now? So this is what I had to do. There was a magazine called Queen Magazine. He's a horny little bastard. And I want to, I want to. I want to, I want to, I want to, I want.

Oh, God. Not on the Patreon. Yeah. If you, if you want to pay, you can pay $20 to hear this sickening hot tea. I can't believe you just said it because I was, okay, one of the original business starters of Queen magazine was, was in drag race. And I just saw him in the episode. And I went, oh my God, I forgot about that.

got all about this. I didn't. I don't, I don't, so I don't have the brain. I don't have the brand, brain with, bandwidth to hold on to graduates because I don't have a lot of real estate up there that's still working. But I, I had, I petitioned. It's a studio apartment. Like, if you want to take something home, you got to get rid of something. It's like, it's like a shared bathroom on the hall. FEMA trailer. I'm in there with my, with my marathon. Shivering, shitting myself like, Oda Pippig from the Boston. I, I had to. petition. Now, I had to stuff an extra outfit into my all-stars, very limited all-stars to five suitcase allotment, or I had to select them. Anyway, I had to petition them to let me

stay an extra day at the hotel after filming was done because I was, I was asked to do a photo shoot in what I thought was a very prestigious opportunity for Queen Mag. So Cream Magazine was a big brand new brand new and a big glossy nasty that you know what before I'm not here to critique people's business success and God knows I've closed businesses it sucks but the quality of that magazine was beautiful. I'm telling you it was like the Matt was like it was like beautiful it was like one of those old school art magazine that you that is just like you know with $30. You get on that Franklin that corner of Franklin in Franklin Village you know those like art magazines. Oh, you know I'm talking about. Franklin Mint. Franklin is really what it is. It's a Prisne. It's a Prince Brune.

Yeah. So it was gorgeous. I was going to be their cover girl. I think for their first issue. Wasn't it Alaska? It was. And it was Alaska, a change at the last minute because they had rolled their dice and thought I was going to win All Stars 2 before the season was even videotaped or filmed.

They were like, we got to get her. And then when the season was done, the photo shoot was completed. And I don't know who I think that they probably learned because this, this guy whose name rhymes with Giles Javis Judy. The country did this to me and the Dix responsible. Miles Davis Moody, a former pit crew member who is a big flop. He's, I mean, I don't know him well enough to, to. Well, I do. In this very, in this instance, I don't think anybody's this.

person's not evil of course but this was a very I this was a big flop and so they um I shot with Magnus Hastings who I love love and we did a fun really great um nasty little photo uh shoot at his place while at the right after I finished filming the season the picture the snorkel no no no no no this is much later I don't think this I don't know if these pictures ever saw the light of day I was I was in a red a leather like red leather leotar thing with some crazy hair in front of a cool mylar back It was a very cool photo. I could probably find it somewhere. I'm not sure.

But they, they just, just, just booted me off the cover. And I don't know. Sorry, ugly. Say that jobless. Sorry, sorry, sweetie. We're going to go with someone pretty. Yeah. We're going to go with someone who won.

Right. And so that was never, it was never like the, hey, we're so excited that you're about to win all stars. There was not that discussion was all behind the scenes. And so when, when I think when Alaska was, it was clear that she was going to win or I don't know what the internal, but that I was booted off the magazine. So yeah, it was interesting. Well, yeah.

It was a beautiful magazine. Yeah, I wish it was still going. I think they owe people thousands of dollars. Yes, at the time though, I don't think there had been anything that was like going drag queens as so the focus of an art book. Like I wish it had been successful because I think it's I think it's nice. Yeah. Well, you go bankrupt. I'm not my Nicky fan.

They go bankrupt, not me. But I'm saying, you know, I like the effort. I wish I wish that it would have worked for every, one because I like the heart I think is in the right place. Usually when you start a business, I guess these days, although if you're a venture capitalist and then somebody invest in you and you flop, they lose the money. I think that's what happened. But the customers, I think, pre-ordered a bunch of stuff. Oh, really? I don't know anything about that. Yeah, it was a big flop. And I think people lost a lot of money, people, customers who paid for subscriptions or whatever. But we can

funny because when you show up at the Trix Motel, it's just an empty lot. I'm just kidding. But there is a flyer. There's a flyer. Hey. That's something. Yeah. And if you really want the experience, you can go go on Instagram. Oh my God. What do you think is going to happen at the drag sale this weekend? Selling a lot of stuff. I can I tell you what I think is going to happen? What? Unmanageable flash mob. Ariana Grande at the mall level. Honey, this ain't my first rodeo. Don't underestimate my power to control people because I will whip them into a frenzy. Metaphorically speaking. Not very big. Because I feel like people are going to buy one button and and maybe sit for a while. Listen to me. Listen to me right now. I worked at Dorothy's boutique for seven years. We had no space in there.

Right. We had, so we had, our capacity was probably comfortably at a hundred's customers. We had a thousand outside. I was working the door, taking bribes, doing crowd control, yelling at people, stopping people with a stick. You worked at the door? Yeah, I made, like at the club? I made five to six hundred dollars in bribes every shift. I said, if you really serious about getting this, this sexy gas station attendant thing for your girlfriend and getting home before eight o'clock, put your hand on the money grip. Take that money, roll it up, Shep it up my pussy.

I was like, you want to, I was like, listen, baby, this is America. You want to get to the front of the line. Right. Show me some Benjamin Jefferson. Show me the Benjamin Jefferson. Give it to me now. Show me that paper with Michelle Obama on it right now. The Benjamin Jefferson.

It's the Benjamin Jefferson, honey. Who is Benjamin Jefferson? Well, I'm telling you that we're, I'm telling you they were bribing you with a nickel. This is how you find out they were giving you fake money. They gave me those Benjamin Jeffersons. They gave me those, uh, Joyner, curs. They gave me those, um, Abigail Adams.

coins and they so I remember no so I can get so this the sale this begin this will have gone up already but the sale will have been a success and everybody will be pleased and some people be heartbroken only because the stock went out early I'm selling stuff too and we I deceptively had a lot yeah no shit a lot yeah well we're we're selling everything that ain't nailed to the the floor but I was like we don't have much I went through the closets I like we're conned at where I went another pass yeah I was like you gotta do three you got to do multiple My rationale is nothing is priced ever because that's the fun of it. Yeah, I don't price.

No, no, no, nothing set in stone. Everything is negotiable. It's a very bizarre situation. I think Brandon and his mother are selling my drag. Oh, incredible. Love it. Yeah, it's always, it's Hagalina. It's Hagalina.

And it, you got to come in and be what you have to have, you know, you have your Venmo code out, you've got to have the cash flow flowing and then that's talk. It's really a social fun. It's fun. But people got to wait in there, listen, there's the squirrel downstairs. That's a restaurant. There's the convenience store across the street that sells one paper towel. And then they get a Mexican place to you.

You can get some to eat. It's a lovely little area. Yeah. Yeah. I hope it goes well. Of course it will. I think it's going to be an unimaginable flash mob. I do.

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They're very, they actually, they, they skew. They're passive. You could slap them. What do you think I just did? Crowd Control. Right. Yeah. This episode is sponsored by Allie Pop.

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for so many All-Star seasons. I know. And I'm watching it going, okay, you guys, we can talk about an order, but I'm like, you guys, your only point of reference was All-Stars 1, which we was so long ago and such a flop. Respect. No, no, no, no, no, no.

But I don't think people loved the teams. Nobody did. Nobody did. Not even the girls on the show who were incredible, by the way. Amazing cast, too. And they did a lot with not very much. They did a lot with not very much. And, you know, it was just a big, I think it was a big flop from the producers' point of view

because nobody wanted teams. The every drag queen, drag is not a team sport. But you know what I bet it was and nobody, I have no idea. I bet they only had enough money to a finite amount of episodes. And so if you're in teams, you eliminate two at a time, don't you? Oh, I think that's a... So you could have a bigger cast with less episodes. That may be true, but I feel like that displays a massive lack of imagination.

Because it's like, well, then why don't we just eliminate two girls? Or eliminate the bottom two. Or if like if you win, you get a gun and you get to shoot somebody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They can't come back. They can't come back. They're dead. We were shocked because I walked in thinking...

Because we had no way of knowing that you guys were, that Aral Sarge was happening. It wasn't like an annual thing or anything. No. And I think one of the producers had very, very obtusely, very vaguely planted a seat in my head about, hey, just so you know,

I mean, she didn't even say it was so crazy. It was like, I heard, did somebody say something about an all-star season? Right. It was very that. It was like,

just somebody see something about all-stasy. So the world was like the last thing you're worried about in that scenario. Well, I'm worried about how to get my luggage from Darlington to fucking, to chat them or whatever the fuck I was in England right and it was my adult at the time the acne was really I'm on acutane I'm worried

about my unborn baby right I'm gonna have great skin but my baby one arm and just a lot of night games what tore down hit baby walking in all stars she was chopped but she could burn an outfit she was chapped

she could breast eat all night long she was clapped but she could burn an outfit so none of us had any idea that all stars was a thing. None of us were like, because it wasn't a thing. It wasn't a thing. And this was eight seasons,

seven, six seasons. And, you know, way back in season seven, I remember thinking that the shark had jumped, whatever the fuck, the show jumped the shark at season six. Season six was kind of a creative

or quality apex. And then it was like either you could argue that. It was. I mean, it really was. But I wouldn't say, I don't think it's fair to say that it was a downhill thing. I don't think it's linear.

But it was a reorganization, a refresh, a redevelopment of the whole show in general, you know, because season seven was not a step down. It was a different staircase. Right. Do you know what I mean? A different stage. Different, whole different dynamic of people.

Yeah. And we did, as you guys don't know, we did talk about all of season seven last year. Yeah. So if you could, you could go watch that before you do this. Yeah. But this chronologically, season seven airs, we filmed the finale. Several months later, you're doing this. Yeah, I think like six months later, maybe.

Or eight months later. Yeah, they called. And then they sent, they called and they sent. and they sent, again, not enough time to come up with the outfits, especially being on tour. I only had three. Are you on bots? No, I was doing my solo thing.

I was like doing club gigs. Oh, okay. You know what I mean? I was just like going around doing club gigs. And in England, I know I was talking to Nina on the phone in England and designing, like trying to help. You're designer. All my Disney outfits. Because there was Ariel.

There was Moana. There was Bell. and then there was the teacup and then we couldn't figure out the teacups we did the beast no but I got the list but then I remember

I was at Jock's I remember very oh I remember exactly where I was where I had the conversation about the talent show and we've got a special guest who was talking about her talent show okay great

because I also wanted to say so let's get into it because I want to talk about this is also the invention of the talent show yes like the Drag Race Talent show is invented

so many first here terrifying first terrifying first terrifying So we can we just start, we go chronologically. Kit, can we start with the episode, the top of the episode? I walk in first. You walk in first. First and I butcher and mangle my catchphrase.

It is absolutely not even remotely. Conner story down here to coach you. Not even remotely grammatically even have anything to do with the Russian language. What did you say? I said, so if you're saying happy something like Happy Mother's Day, it's a very idiomatic grammatical construction. It's like it literally means with mother. with the day of mothers.

It is just, it's not happy. It just doesn't work. It's a very, it's an idiomatic non-transclatable. If a Russian person saw it, would they be like, what was that?

Absolutely. Absolutely they would have not one clue about what I was saying. But don't you think they're flattered that you tried? Maybe, because I did,

I did say like, I'm the first one, which I think I said correctly, and then I said like, Divushki, which is girls, whatever. So I got,

had a very, but so I'm wearing this wig, very peggy Bundy with a very strange. Yeah, let's talk about the wig. Because I, Let's take a break.

I, I know you hate the wig. Do what? I don't hate the color. I hate the bangs. Oh, the banks like you, someone threw it on

with one hand from behind you. And it stuck. And it just stuck. It stuck, yeah. It's not even like framing your, it's just kind of like curtains. It's curtains and it's so low. It's dead by here.

Yeah, it's so low. You're going to have an eye patch on underneath it, underneath the bank. And they couldn't, because I was wearing a late, outfit that was custom made by Jyndo again. It was cool. It was off the rack. It was, but it was customized. Sure. Customized. And then, which would we later turn out to be a tough point for

Tatiana who had the same outfit, not customized in black. Yeah. So I come in, they had to wire that they had to wire me in my hair because latex does not microphone. And because you do Broadway. So they had it right on your fort. Right. I will talk about it on All-Stars. three, but I had that latex thing. Yeah. They put it in the way. In the hair. Yeah.

Then the hair. So that's why it was all messed up. Because they had to, they had to take it off and then throw it on me. Did they then fuck the wig? Did somebody put their huge cock in the wig? Yeah. You actually, it was actually filled with cum. So I come in.

I'm like, you know what? I'm like, I'm coming in off of this is my mindset. I'm very aware of my popularity. And I'm aware of the fan favorite status. Yes. And I'm aware of the discrepancy between what I am capable of and what people want me to do or and also the perception, the misperception of my ability through the lens of I like you.

100%. So you're dealing with, all right. I'm very popular because of my personality, not because I'm a good drug name. And now you have to live up to. Yeah. If you're people's horse in the race. Yeah. You have to run.

Yes. Which I'm, yeah. I have to run. But also I am aware. So I'm aware of being overrated. I'm aware of being overscored. I'm going to say overweight. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. I'm aware of being overweight. No, I'm shut that. I literally thought you were about to say that. I'm aware I'm overweight. Yeah, I know biggest house. I'm going into this. I know I'm fat.

And I'm not only comfortable, I'm happy. Right. Yeah, no. So you're aware that you're, um, rated. You're, you're, you're discussed. You're excited. I'm happy she's here, which is why they put you first. Exactly.

Because they people are going to know you're going to be there. And, and, and, and, and, And coming off of season seven, which was literally two weeks ago, I, you know, I was, I was a very, I, towards the end of the season, people wanted me to win. I, you know, we've talked about this, but I never thought it was going to win and I didn't even want to. But that, so I'm aware of being a fan favorite, right? So the fan favorites is a big expectation. I also objectively know that I'm overrated at this point.

And that's fine. That's not my fault. That's not my fault. You're just living. I'm living. I'm living, I'm living, making mistakes and just being myself. I'm actually getting overrated. I think people are excited about you.

No, no, no. That's two different things. Oh. People can be excited and that's just excited. They're just emotional. Love her. She sucks, but love her. Tea, though.

Tea, though. I mean, that was me during this talent show when we get there because some of these, I was like, I know this sucks, but I'd watch it again right now. Calco's, are you kidding me? I'm excited. I'm excited. I mean, it's so horny. When it hits that crunch.

When she hits that crunch. Girl. I mean, I think it's the vernonator immediately. I think of Wendy Williams. Yeah. Like Britney walking. the jewelry clanking. It's so awesome. It's incredible. It's so dystopian, post-apocalyptic. It's so postmodern. It's so outrageous. It's like AI. It is, but it, no, but it's still very human.

Like you went on like Gemini and you're like, show me a video of Kokomontres in a Maryland movie. Yeah. A silent movie. Well, sure. You know, all that's missing are the title cards. Like, and then I grabbed the hat or then I wrote my husband wasn't there. Dot, dot, dot. Like all those silent movie title cards are missing. Because if you put it in black and white and you frame it as a silent movie, a silent scene, a scene and silent movie, it's actually like very on point. But as a talent show, it's like, I have a question before we get to talent show. Now, did you know, that I did not know anybody coming in. Now, I'll run, let me run down the list.

You didn't know who was going to come. No. And as you know, you were first on your season, right? Yeah. Yeah. You're in there for so long. Oh, my God. They give you way too long to just choose.

doing up the scenery. You're running around. After two seconds and me rollerblading around, I'm like, four scores and seven years ago. Like, I don't know what to do. How long is it between the next person that comes in? Oh, it's a 10 minutes. I think 10 minutes is probably a little long.

I mean, I would say at least five. Five, when you're there alone. Five is a long time to just riff by yourself. Who's out of town? Yeah, it's like, where my dykes at? Right. Do your brunch jokes. Yeah, yeah.

It's like, you're looking in the mirror. You're taking a lot of money to look this cheap gal. And it's like, you know, and also when you're talking, We're not talking to anybody. You're not, I'm not the type of person. I'm not the type person that's going to do like my little scene from Nightmother or like, or whatever. Alyssa in first. She would have been like, thank God I can just.

That is a very great suggestion. She would have just mugged. I should have been right before Alaska. We're not invited. Not included at all. I would be, you see me from behind one of the cameras like, you're behind the mirror. Yeah. The light flash on it goes off again.

Someone's like, what was that? And then the next one is my butt by the mirror. When I have like in like Kung Fu Hustle when the little boys, but it's always showing it. I'm like, today's episode of Ball in the Beautiful is brought to you by planned parenthood. Everybody deserves access to high quality, affordable health care no matter what. That's why millions of people rely on Planned Parenthood Health Centers for services like cancer screenings, wellness exams, birth control, STI tests, and more. In fact, one in three women in the U.S. have been to Planned Parenthood for Care. So it kind of blows my mind that lawmakers are trying to permanently shut them down.

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The neon, the earrings. She looks so fabulous. And it's just a perfect, it's a perfect, casual, theatrical, casual, like, I mean, it's a great. It's a great. It's a great quintessential detox look. And I love her. Oh, she looks awesome. I love her.

And I'm like, oh, that's great. I'm just happy to be with her. I'm happy to really get to know her. Then we got Alyssa. Mama, this outfit. Melissa comes in. Melissa Edwards with this outfit that is just psychotic. It's so bipolar.

Very her, though. It's everything in the kitchen is bipolar. It's like a skirt, a corset, a cape of like, and then a mat with the bow. A bow and shoes that don't match at all. It's so crazy. It's so crazy. It's so crazy. It's exciting, though.

She really is so dazzling. It's just she's the best. She's the 11 herbs and spices of any drag race seasons. She's the Mrs. Dash. Bam. Mrs. Dash.

You don't need salt and pepper. The rest of you could go home. The rest of you could go home. I could say it was every minute. I could say it was every minute filming with her was fantastic because she showed up always on. And she was never like she, whatever. We'll get to it. But she was just fabulous. And then we got ginger. No, sorry. Yes. No. I think it's Fifi. It's, hold on. I have the list. Riddle me this. Riddle me that. Girl. I'm a dog and I'm a cat. I don't know.

It's like something like that. It was, it was, that was the vibe because it was, it didn't run. You know, it didn't run. Can I hate,

I hate mother goose. I hate, I know. Crunch the crunch and munch the lunch. Yeah, I'm gonna go to brunch. Yeah, yeah. Oh, so if you're gonna do it,

if you're gonna do a, like a limerick or something or like that. Do Robert Frost. You know, two forks in the road, ho. Diverging a, the pathless travel.

And has made all the difference. Yeah. Do you're going to do, where's Emily Dickinson? We're going to do the Virginia Woolf. We're going to do, oh, Flops. Bring a doll. Oh, Hollywood. Yeah.

Something. Yeah. It was, it's so boo-boo. And it was, the number, I mean, the outfit was like, okay, it's a, I do like the outfit. I don't know if it's well executed, I suppose. Yeah. I don't like purple and orange. Or is it purple and orange?

I also never turn up. Green and orange. It was the riddler. It was purple and purple. Green and purple is the riddler. I mean, I love DC. It's Marty. It's Marty.

I'm not really ever a fan of like golden cosplay on drag race. No, I mean either. It's kind of inappropriate. It's just not the right venue for it. She's really really great at it in general, but I just never like turn up fordome Drag Race. Yeah, I don't either. I don't think it makes sure.

Your face looks good though. Also the riddler is like, what did we joke? What do we got questions about? What do we got questions about? What's confusing? What's the riddle? Riddle me this? He's a super villain.

He terrorizes Batman with riddles. I bet you can see Katja from your back yard. Well, that gets really all. Awesome. That's the Riddler. She's the Riddler. She's the Riddler. She's Ridley Scott.

What do we know about the Riddler? He would never come out and say, by the way, I'm the Riddler. He would put a Riddler cosplayer in the, in the mix. And then he would do his past. Yes, of course. So then we get. Alyssa, my dear, it is so horrible when you're near. Great.

Mother fucking goose, girl. So we got, okay, so I put it all down. Limericks, nursery rhymes, and internal. Yeah. My hair, weird microphone in. Alyssa looking crazy. Detox amazing. Ginger.

her hate the coat love the bathing suit oh my god i forgot that i also took notes hate the coat love the bathing suit oh her body looks great the body is fabulous it's one of those um i feel like it's a it's a semi rare moment when she made a really great all the proportions are fabulous yeah in the the detail on the side with the lace and the giant boat is like really chic yeah and i think that you know she's got all the proportions are really like slamming the body is just ginger's body is maybe the best ginger body shot we've seen on DryRift to this point. The coat hate it.

It's great to have ginger back. Yeah. Wait, what were your thoughts on having your season seven sister there? My best friend? When you... Well, I was just relieved at this point

to have my best friend. That is your smoking buddy though. Yeah. By the way, at this point, oh, yeah, I'm smoking. I'm smoking. I am sober, but I'm smoking.

And yeah, no, but see, here's the fun part is that Roxy and Detoxy and detox become my smoking buddies. Of course. So that's why I really, like I got to know Roxy on this scene. Sorry, X program, but I get to know Roxy and Detox. Because as you know, to your to your aggravation, when you have a horrible life-crippling

addiction like smoking that makes no sense, you're allowed all this extra time in professional environments to just go to just smoke. And so we would go out and smoke as a group and, you know, when Ginger got chopped in episode three, the three of us became the smoking crew. And we got to know each other. And there's no cameras out there because the logo didn't do smoking on camera and no untucked. Do they do hard ice out there? No.

Smokers, you know what? They try to get people to smoke. But smokers get rewarded at every turn. So that's, this is the double-edged sword of the smoking is that, yes, you trade your life in for a wonderful social activity. Sure. So you make friends. You make lifelong friends and then you die, of course. But it's lifelong friends.

That life is six months. Yeah. Lifelong. The ripe old age of 48, they died of emphysema. Not to mention, drag queens from Florida smoking, I'm assuming he's on a different level. I'm assuming those bitches can put them away. Mama, I can put them away too. Right.

It's a race. Thank you, that's the real drag race. Yeah. But it was honestly, if it was like nowadays, I think, you know, because smoking is back horribly. But it was a, that's where the real, that's where the real, the realness happens. You know, because we're not being. Yeah, you're on in untuck. Nothing's real and untouched.

Bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo. But like, yeah, you're not, when the camera's on you, you're not real. You can be as real as you try to be. And if you're if you can you can actually try not to perform and you can not be performing, but you're still on camera. Right. You know. And so, you know. And so yeah, I just, I loved getting to know them because we're so different.

But I, but you know, they're great. Especially Roxy. So with this. It's like we can still hear her voice. This is where Roxy and Phoebe especially and Ginger, they, they walk in doing something that I think is so. Gosh. Which is to say, I'm here. to prove a point.

Can I tell you, I took a note that this is really the redemption season. Yeah, it is. It is. The season of everybody has a personal, everybody saw themselves on their season of television and wants to use this opportunity to pivot public perception. Yeah. Which I don't think is bad. It made for interesting viewing for me.

Yes. Because it makes me get invested. I'm like, is Fifi nice now? Yeah. Is Roxy different? Like, you're like, Katia. It's like, is she going to get over her anxiety? Yeah.

Ginger, she almost won. Is she going to win? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't mind that. I'm invested. I don't mind it either, but I, but I do, from a psychological point of view and just as a social, from a social point of view, it's more of a show, not tell thing with sincerity. Like, you know, you can say all you want on reality TV, but we're going to look at what you do.

Right. You know, because we're going to, if you come out swinging with the words, that immediately sets you up for a comparison of like, okay, is she full of, shit. Is she walking the walk after having talked a big talk? Like whenever somebody comes out, I'm going to win this challenge. It's like, girl, they're going home. And you also have to be careful about, okay, I learned this from, I don't even want to say who, but I learned this from somebody in reality TV and it's cunty. If you think someone's jealous of you, you don't sit in an interview chair and say she's jealous of me.

You sit a chair and go, I don't know why she acted like that. Bam. You let the audience at home decide they're jealous. Like so this is, you look crazy if you say she's jealous. And also you say, you're like, okay, well, this person. person now is, so it's like, I'm not going to kill you. Why would you say that? Now, all I can think about is you killing me. Right. But you might not be a murderer. But now I'm all thinking about you being a murderer. There was this woman. She pulled up in a car out front of my house and Brandon saw her out there in her car. And she said to Brandon, don't worry. I'm not going to whip out my dick or anything. Now, what are you thinking about? But Brandon was like, I didn't walk out here thinking you were going to do that. Yeah. But now that I noticed that you're saying, you're going to do that. Yeah. But now that I noticed that you're saying, you're saying, saying don't worry I'm not going to show my dick or anything yeah which you got the good when I was like yeah what's kind of suspicious yeah it is yeah a person who wasn't going to show

their dick might not have said that at all yeah so and I you know this is all now again nobody forces you to say anything you are definitely encouraged to say things and and if you want to I mean the more that you talk the happier the producers will be because the in the more you talk about that the even ecstatic the producer will because they got more to to build a story and of Of course, they're looking for story beats and it is all edited after the fact the story is created after, but they have, they have got an agenda for sure. They don't have a rigid one where I always think that like you give the production company way too much credit. You think they got winners planned and all this stuff for you. Anybody got no, no, no, no, no, no.

Because you know what the most watchable people. They want the most volatile people. They want the most because the only thing that it is the kiss of death in reality is boring. Yeah. Mid. Boring in mid is the kiss of death. They want spectacular. They want devastating.

They want a fail or they want a success. Nothing in the middle. Right. We're 40 minutes in and we're just at the entrance look. So let's keep it rolling. Okay. Damn. So we get the reading.

You know what? What? No. Go. We get the reading challenge. Yeah. Did you know who's going to be there? Did you know what you're going to talk about?

Yeah. We got a whole list of, we got a list of like 35 people. It was crazy long. What? I think you were on it. In fact, I know you were on it. Why are they being so secret of the day before? I don't know.

Because they don't want you to know who's going to be there. You were on it. I think Robbie Turner was on it. There's a whole bunch of people. So many people. Venus Delight. Everybody was on it. Everybody was on it.

You're up late at night with your scroll reading reads for every person to ever lived. I, yeah. And the reads were so bad. I disagree. Really? I mean, the bus stop one was pretty devastating. But it's not really a read. It's more of like a roast kind of comment.

Like, I'm just going to bring up your, trauma with no punchline. What I did like about it was that you said it delivered it like you were actively sorry for saying it, which made me laugh. I was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like. It was like, you knew in the moment that you were like, hey. Yeah. How are you doing?

It was like apologetic. I mean, I just met her. So it was like a little bit. Oh, no, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. She's fine. I thought it was way too far.

So I did apologize later. I love when someone calls detox. Detoxed Delaide. Yeah. Yeah. The mother goose really is. I mean, she went down the line, too. I don't even remember.

I don't even think they showed one clip of me being read. They didn't. They didn't. No. I never got right in the episode. What do they, what did she say? Alaska. Alaska.

You can see Katja. I bet you can see Kacha from your backyard. What? Because it would, now, get her some smelling salts and call 911. No, because Sarah Palin was in the, on the news cycle talking about how, remember, Tina feels like, and I can see her from, I can see Russia from my house. I do, I do know the reference. Okay, so that, but still, that makes no sense.

It makes no sense. There's no Sarah Palin. Are you, is Alaska Sarah Palin? Are you Russia? Right. It's so crazy. Yeah, it's so crazy. Also, it's like, but she's anyways.

One fish, two fish, redfish, blue fish. It's like very Dr. Seuss. But no, but no rhythm or, it's not even funny. It's so crazy. Also, Alaska's intro took five long minutes. Five long interminable minutes. What do you mean? Her, for umbrella at the entrance.

Oh. five long she was doing Moby Dick I did like the plastic bag look oh no she makeup is amazing yeah yeah she just looks really beautiful she looked great I like your out of drag look you have so much hair I know I wrote I wrote

we were given a long list my darling dear I can't stand it when you're near Alaska I'm sure Katja can Kaja can see you from her backyard like what what is that it's Kanti it's Kanti Coco, Coco, Team Coco.

Love to list this reads. Oh, I thought she had the best reads. Beast. She was like, Monsters Inc. Got it. Rod it. Heel a monster. Beast.

Perfect. Freak. Just go bobobobo. She's a fucking freak. She knows how to be an entertainer within the time constraint. She knows how to keep a snappy, keep it moving. And she gives us beast, which is so great. Oh, so good.

D-dragging, I have hair. Thin villainous lips. Gorgeous blonde hair. Thin villainous lips. No. Oh, you just don't have. Where's my camera? Cardell.

Caudale. It's right. No, that was, I mean, that's your lips. Later on life. That's your face. That's your face. You know what I love? This happens, I think, in the next episode.

But they go, all right, give us a top of the day sound bite. And you're like, I hate the top of the day sound bites. It's so bad. I'm feeling sexy. You're feeling grateful. I'm going to take the crown. And then they all walk in. Remember this day, big energy, big energy.

You're like, fuck off. But I also hate that. I hate when the girls walk in holding hands. And someone hits a pose and says, like, new day, let's get fierce. Do you know that if I was in there, I hate it. Katna's Everdeen, Bo, like, I would be taking these people out. Can you start as a camera one, be like, I'm like, what did, I would have one of those headphones on? I said, what did she say?

Yeah, I don't like that. Out. Faceful of acid. You're done. You're done. You pissed me off. I would be, like, energy. Fiscal acid.

Faceful acid. So, okay, Rue looks stunning. I love these red blondes and mixed blondes. I thought are in the running perfect shape, perfect volume, perfect hair. Okay, I also have to say I know we're running a little over, but I also have to say this is the introduction of these all-star rules at all. So RuPaul, it's a two bait-and-switch. Rupal first says to you guys, there's no eliminations.

There's no eliminations. And I'm assuming that means you guys think that no one's going home. I thought it meant we're going to get points. And I was like, thank God, we're just going to get points. And then Alaska will probably get the most points and she'll win. And then we'll all go home and we'll have our dignity. What was your thoughts also on getting $10,000 if you win the lip sync? That never happened either.

I didn't care. I didn't care about the money because I was making money. Do you know what I mean? I was like, yeah, that's great. But like money there doesn't even make sense. It doesn't feel real. It doesn't feel real. And it's not real.

And plus, we had just, I had just been traveling. And yeah, at that point, I'm not making that much money. But I've got, I probably have $15,000 in cash in my bag. Something you have to remember to is none of us are ever there for the prize money. No, this is not a cash for-gras. I'm not saying we don't want to make money after. None of us are there. Our priority is not $100,000.

No, it's just not. It's not. The money is also, it's so piddily. Like, not to be gauche, but at this point, if you're going, if you're a very, if you're a successful drag queen from drag race and you're going back to All-Stars after several years after your season and you've been working and building a career, you're losing money. Yeah. By being there.

If you make it a long time sometimes because you're not making $100,000, which after taxes is only like 50. And then you're forfeiting, you could be forfeiting $50,000. You could be losing months of gigs. Months of gigs. And then also, although, spending $100,000 on costumes. Which you didn't. And that's clear.

And that's clear. I did not. I did not. Now, let's talk about my eye popping talent show number look. Okay, I just, okay, I'm not even joking because I, sorry. We can go down the talent show real quick and easy, working dirty. Rupal's astounding to look at. Love her.

This is love it. Astounding. Jewelry, hair, gown, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, no notes. Raven Simoneje, guest judge. The look is not the tea. I like it. You like that blue lipstick? I mean, I'm glad she's swinging for the fences.

She swung. It's did, did, did, do, do, do, but I don't care. And she gets some barbed wire over the fence, yeah. I like the hair with all the jewelry in it. I hate the whole look. Yeah, but it's good for her. Swinging big. So let's go down the line.

Okay. Adores first. Yes. Sure. Rough. Rough to start. At the time, I remember thinking it was like, I thought she sounded great. I thought she looked great.

She is a great singer. Yeah. But starting with that ballad that has not one ounce of humor, not one else. It's like nobody knows it. Nobody's heard it before. It's a ballad. It just made no sense at the top of the show. Yeah.

So I understand their critiques. I do think they were so mean to her. And they were even more mean without the unedited version. They were absolutely. That whore can sing. She can sing. She sings very, very well. But Mary, the critique was rough because we were all watching.

We didn't go to untucked. Right. We're all in the back. No, first of all, So then she told, before the talent, she tells us that we're going to be sending each other home. That's right. She's, is it before or after? It's before.

Fierce. And then Alyssa gives us that look straight to camera, which I love. Yeah. She's so great. Sending each other home. And it had never been done. At least when I did All Stars, I had prior conception of that. Yeah.

Yeah. What a crazy thing to be surprised with. Yeah. Like it was, it was a on, you know how sometimes at this point in the show when they drop a bomb, you're like, oh, God. This was a genuine shock. Like your system hasn't even thought about that as a what if. Genuine shock.

Yeah. Because I'm watching it being like, you guys have no idea. You're in real time finding out the rules that basically become the All-Stars rules. And it was crazy. Kudos to the fucking production team because they really, I think consistently almost every episode, maybe every episode, yanked it off. Yeah. Yanked it off.

The eliminations are shocking every time this season. Shocking. And everybody's got a point of view. Everybody has a backstory that's not forced really, even if whether it's a thing. existing relationships. Hello. Yeah. Like access to grind, points to prove,

reputations to rehabilitate, and also just talent to show. And also knowledge of like after this, when I see that person out in the world again, how does this affect that real life relationship? And it really does. And it really does. This was a big,

everybody came out of this season, a different person. Yeah. Everybody. Well, everybody got a lot of plastic surgery. RuPaul makes everyone get best. Yeah. So, Alyssa.

eats. Oh, okay, talent show. Adore. Alyssa, Conti. Eat. Hate the outfit. Hate the outfit. Hate the outfit.

Also, love the puppet. Love the puppet. Love the dancing. Love the whole thing. But Mary, why not just a whole leotard with the things dangling? Yeah. It needs to be the black panty with the visible stomach. It was just, it was just not the best outfit.

It could have been. She tore this. These days, it would have, she would have came out there with a more complete, unassailable dance costume. That would be so kind. She killed it. Love the puppet. Alyssa's starting talking to a puppet of RuPaul in front of RuPaul like work.

Work. And all lip synced. Also, it introduces you to the audience. Yeah. It introduces. Yeah. It was just, I thought it was amazing.

She was great. Coco. Jesus Christ. It was. I wrote, can we see icon? Because I want to say, what was it really like in the room? So we're on the side there as now everybody does in the talent show. They're the peanut gallery, right?

And we're watching. I'm like, so I was like in my mind. So as a competitor, when you. see somebody in it when you get to watch the other challenges sometimes you don't get to do that when you do get to see people flop you don't want them to flop but you do want them to flop because their flop is your success right it's a it's a it's a it's a it's an organization of i got two competing storylines in my head i'm like what is how what in the david lynch is happening right now what in the barton think fucking cohen brothers bizarre post like modern what is happening like

what is actually happening? Because all I know about Cocoa Moutrice is that she's an incredible lip singer, and extremely tiny. Tiny. I don't know if people know. Cocoa Mtrees is 80 pounds, 5, two. Tiny.

Like, she's tiny. Yeah, she's tiny. And I'm like, white in the world. And she's an incredible, I'm not going home.

She's an incredible face tuner. Right. Like, I'm not joking. No, no, I look forward. I think digital artist is what you mean.

Her and Sammy Landry from from Canada's Dragress, those are my retouchers. That's who I want doing my photos. Body, Sammy does the body, Coco does the face. It's incredible. Coco, she snatches in her waist by way of stretching her hand. Work. It's interesting because the archway behind her is now dipped.

Girl, it's incredible. Yeah. I love it. Detox, she only did it once. So we ran through all, we ran through all these. So baby, why have one? We can have two twice the price. Coco did it twice.

You have to realize that as if we go back to a glamazonian airways, I didn't flop once. I flop twice. She flops twice. Twice. And the second time is almost more surreal because you're like, you're like, because it's like, what did I just see? Deja boo. What I just see is like, did I just see that? I'm actually not even sure. Oh, I did it. Can I tell you, but I'm watching. I watched this episode with Mr. Wonderful. And by the way, somebody told me to not call him blanket because it's retramatizing blanket Jackson. That's tea. So now it's Mr. Wonderful. But Mr. Wonderful, um, said, it's the only one I would watch again. Immediately rewinded and watch again. Coco. Yes. Yeah. Because it's like, you are like, what? What?

Hold on a second. Hold on. Yeah. Wait, what? And so good and bad is one thing. Remerable. Remerable. Iconography.

There's other levels that have nothing to do with good. No, no, no, no, no. Memorability. I'm Rock C. Andrews and I'm here to make it clear. Like, yeah, I know you love me, baby. That's why you brought me here. Do what? Like, there's some things are, who cares if it's good.

And it's like, it's like, it's like the Cardinals said in the Snatch game is trying to, is sacrificing memorability for accuracy. Right. Like you don't care, we don't care. Did you laugh? Is it funny? Is it memorable? Right. We don't care about accurate.

Who fucking cares about accurate? Anyways. Well, Shakari Wilson would never say that. You know what I mean? Yeah. No, bitch. Exactly. That's a good drag.

That's a good snatch game. Scarry Wilson. With the nails on the wig. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And just take off running. Yeah. Parking lot. And didn't she get in trouble from marijuana?

Love. Yeah, yeah. We got ginger. Oh, wait. No, we had a batch of detox. Oh. I love detoxes talent. Yeah.

It's just funny that they say detox. detox, talent, singing. And they cut to her fingering herself to paint. Like, by the way, it is singing, but it's just funny that it's, it's mostly like, like, like, stripping and like sexy moves. It's like, it's art.

They could have said detox, talent, sex. And I would have been like, sure. It's just the guy it's singing and she's like paints paintings with his hard dick. It's very that. It's yarn out of the pussy. Like knitting. It's performance art. It's Caroleeat Sheem and Interior Scroll. But I love that they called singing because it is, but it's

fucking funny. Yeah. And then we got Ginger. Bad song, bad outfit. Ginger is a great singer. The song is so whatever. It's so forgettable. Yeah. It's so forgettable. You don't want it. It's so it's corny. I hate the outfit. Hate the wig. I hate the makeup. It's a big flop. I'm so excited

to not be on up for elimination or on the main stage because there are a couple of indefensible parts, features of my outfit. What are you talking about? I'm just talking about the flood water. Oh, the link. The length of the the cat suit in the ballet flats the no nails the no nails is crazy the no nails it's crazy like not even a short active oval nothing because i'm not doing anything that is i'm not mr wonderful goes wear her nails i said she's doing a

handstand like let her live no no no love the hair love this crunchy i love the scrunchy love the love the jacket take off yeah also my main note is can you do any of this still no because it was amazing i was thinking i mean it's very level one gymnastics the press no the press is very impressive so one thing they didn't vote, I tried to do a different version of the press and I couldn't get up. I was astounded with the back bend and the walk. Yeah, I was in pretty good shape at this point. The handstand with the legs like this around. That's very, nobody else can do it.

No, that's very, yeah. I was like, okay, so my talent is basically one move. To be honest, like everybody, Callissa can do a split. Somebody else can probably do a back bend. Nobody can do a press handstand. So I thought it was very. What is a press handstand? So a press is when I go, when I lift, when I float into a handstand and hold it.

That's a press. Yeah. That is crazy. Very, very, very difficult. Not, you have to be so strong to be able to do that. I remember when you could do all this. So I was watching it going, I wonder if she can do any of this. Girl, I did a handstand against the wall.

I was, I was fell down. Work fierce. Legs broken. Yeah. Um, Fifi. Oh no. Rough. Oh no.

Oh no. This is really rough. And now I remember it not being so rough in the room. but why watching the wig. The white heart front wig. Oh, it was just in the makeup is horrible. And the outfit is horrible. Oh, it was such a mess.

And the tights don't match her body. It was like yellow. It was such a miss. It was such a big, big flop. And listen, I have flopped many times on camera, big time. Big, I flopped hard. It's also like a boogie, wuggy number. I don't like that.

It's like, let's pick up the pace. Where's the music? It's like Mamba number five playing. It's really weird. It's like a little bit of Monica in my life. A little bit of Sandra in the sun. Where's the beat? Yeah, sorry.

Yeah, it's hard. And you know what, Ginger makes a good. Give me a beat. Ginger makes a good point. Like, even for great singers, you don't sing Acapella's hard. Acapella, you know what Acapella is? Because you got somebody doing dua, do a, do a girl. Yes, of course.

That's, Roxie Andrews. Wait, I have a quick question. Did you have any alternates for your talent show? Like, if you could do gymnastics. Oh, oh. So they did reach out to us before we did because they were floating. They were workshoping the talent show idea. And then we have a voice note from one of the contestants about her talent show that talks about this very aspect.

So I want to play that book. I'm excited. It's very long. Hey, guys. It's Tatiana. Longtime listener, first time caller. So you guys wanted to hear about the same parts from the first episode of All Stars 2. I'll start by saying that I wrote the same parts when I was 16 or 17.

it was not called the same parts. It was called something else that I cannot say on here. But I actually for my talent show, I had something completely different planned, but it already had that like copyright-free music for the background. And literally the night before we did the talent show, I was like, I don't think what I have planned is going to work. So in the hotel room, I was like,

if I take this music and I take this ridiculous poem, a rap that I wrote 10 years prior. If I slow it down, maybe I can do something with that. So that's what I ended up doing. Wow. And I remember on the day of, I only rehearsed it in the hotel and in the shower that morning. When we did a like staging, like blocking run through before we actually filmed.

They like miced me up. And all I did was block myself. I didn't actually say anything into the mic. which made the producers like, annoyed. They're like, are you going to say anything? I'm like, I'll say it when I do it. Because I'm someone who it's, I'd rather just do what I know I'm going to do rather

than rehearse in front of people. So when I do that same part's performance, it's first time that I actually did it in front of anybody. So that was interesting. But it went very well. A psycho. And I will say I was surprised that I was like, I thought I was going to get me safe. I did not think I was going to be like one of the.

the top two. So that was super cool. But yeah, that's the story of the same parts. And then we obviously filmed that wrapped. I ended up working with Michelle prior to All-Stars airing at all. She was working in DC at the club that I was working at the time. Town. And she's like, I hope that you plan on releasing that as a song. And I was like, I didn't really think about that. And she's like, you'd be an idiot if you don't do that. So go do that. And I was like, okay. So I, uh, it was Michelle,

or she put the idea in my head. I would have died. Yeah. I would be poor. That's actually released. So I got with two amazing producers, Mark Berry and, uh, DJ Mad Science. And they produced the same parts, the dance track. So.

So good. And the rest is history. That's all the info I have on the same parts. But love you guys. Talk to you later. Bye. Thanks, Tatiana. That was.

And the rest of history. And I certainly made my mortgage payment, running around town doing that song. I called her this morning. We were talking about something else work related. And something about same parts. And she said, well, you know, I owe you guys. She said, because without Katia, I don't know if the song would ever done so well.

I said, yeah, isn't she kind of like your music publicist? She said basically. But I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Like, so a sitting. I, so I had asked her what she planned on doing. And, you know, I would talk to Alaska briefly in the workroom who I kind of found irritating because she was always doing a schick.

But Tatiana. was really excited to get to know because she's very real. She's very chill. And she reminds you me. Yes. Very youthful. Very pretty. Yeah.

Beautiful teeth. And she was like talking about this thing. She was like, I think I'm going to do a spoken word thing. I was like, girl, it's like good luck. I thought she's like she's insane. She's literally insane. She's going to go. She's getting chopped right off the bat.

And then she did that. I was like, it was by far my favorite number. Oh, we've been watching it. By far. She also performs it with so much. Yeah. Conviction. convict she committed to the bit and the fact that she's that was her first time this the first time she's done it actually is like mind-blowing

also she won with me i mean fresh out of art school kind of i was like not fine not fresh 10 years the music cracked me up well this piece is called this piece that's when she won for me this piece was immediate when the bowl cut this piece oh yeah yeah no oh is this yours oh my god it's on am i being bugged It scared me. Lights come action. I was like, what? Well, can I say we also skipped over a couple. We did skip over. I mean, she's by far the best. It's one of the best drag numbers I've ever seen on drag race.

We have Roxy. I only rewatching this, did I realize the wig reveal is a callback to her own wig reveal. And she, the only thing I didn't love, love, love, love, which I thought this number was spectacular. Awesome. Spectacular. It's just that weird horizontal line of right up on her panties. that's the only I mean the tiniest little quibble I have this outfit which is perfect and she looks so

once the fans come out I go you better work you fucking whore she's just so I mean she is such a fabulous entertainer she really isn't she just looks great I love roxy I'm excellent hit the horizontal board the panes Alaska great love the wig yeah love the whole number yeah the number is great this is a great Alaska number yeah it's perfect and um and then a tondiana with the with the ninth inning shocker. Incredible. To go last and come out in the bowl cut and serve all you bitches. Yeah.

Incredible. And then also them having them just, they're perfectly suited, perfectly yin, yang coordinated for a lip sync. Yeah. Hunty. Yeah. This is where a door gets thrown against the wall by Simoneye and Visege. Oh my gosh.

Really aggressive. Yeah. I think at this point, it's a whole, again, it's like we, we're very like, we're very, like, Rue the whole season was like, you guys are the best. I wanted you all here. We really felt honored and we felt very flattered. Yeah. We really felt flattered.

Like we're like, oh, yeah. We really felt like somebody. And she was always having a blast the whole season. And we felt like, oh, my God. Like, yeah, no, we kind of are great. And then so I think they were they were kind of looking for where's the bar for the critiques. And they just went too much on the first episode. They just went too much.

They went too far. Can I split the difference, which is now that I've been a judge, I do feel like, what are you doing if you're not critiquing? Your job is to help people by critiquing them. You don't need to be mean, though. Yes. Yeah. So I understand, I also understand you sign up to be critiqued. Yep.

Yeah. And also, was it Adora's best look ever? No. Was it a door's best performance? No. No. And so the bar is only high because you also all are so good. Yeah.

And you're really, and then people, you're performing. not for strangers, so they're evaluating you against you. Yeah. And Adores headspace too. Like I know Adora a little, this is a different headspace than I think Adora's in now. Adores seemed in this, what we're going to get in the next episode, but Adore seemed a little raw for this all to be happening. Yeah.

And she's critiques hit her really hard. Yeah. And I know she's not one of the girls in a way. Like she's not a competitor. She's a pop star. Yeah. Like at this time, I don't think kids today know like Adore was a crossover pop Like pop star.

Yeah. She's a singer. She's a girl. She's like, she just, I never thought of her as anything other than a singer and a girl. Yeah. Before she transitioned too, right? Yeah. Yeah.

She was like, she plays by the rules. She's, she takes, she lives in this fashion world of like a female singer to me. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? A grunge singer. I'm not happy she's in the bottom. But no. I'm happy we get.

I don't belong here. Yeah. It's so awesome. Yeah. Like, I know it's horrible to watch someone go through something and like love it. As a viewer, I'm watching it. It's like, again, I will be putting that on Twitter.

Shocking. So many times in my life of going, I don't belong here. Like at the doctor's office. Girl. At the preschool, picking up my son. I'm an Ador fan. It's just hard to watch somebody really cry.

This is, spoiler alert, this is the crying season. Yeah, a lot of crying. We get crying every episode from multiple people. Guess he didn't cry the whole time. That's not true. Oh, I did. That's true.

Next episode. I didn't cry in episode two. Did you think Adore's drag was controversial? That's what they kept saying, controversial drag because it was like lower maintenance, I guess. Oh, listen. This is all this is all the, this is for all the bricks and all the girls, um, who are, who are not doing the most in drag.

I see you when I love you. No, a door like maybe I'm whatever a door honestly, I think ushers in what comes next in drag, which is this super. It's polish is not the focus of drag in the queens that come after us. Personality over polish. Drag changes in a big way because of the door. Personality overpollish. polish, which I would, when I went on the road for a couple years after All-Stars doing

personality over polish, Mary, I wore out this cheerleader outfit that someone gifted me. Mary. As my main performance costume. Because I, because I was very clear that people were not coming to see my step-down number. The sequin T-shirt dress, this is bonjour. Yeah. I was not, I was not going on the road to do my step-down number from Miss Continental with my Coco Vig of $75,000 gown.

Do you know what I mean? You were. And I was. You were. And I thought that was never me. And I never felt insecure about it. it. People probably thought I should. But I was, it was very, that, Adora kind of paved that road for me. People talk about us now like that. Like nothing's changed. Excuse me. You and Katta, you just do your thing.

And people just love it. Now, my favorite is and people say, you guys could just shit on camera and the girls eat it up. Well, chomp, chomp. Um, I also wrote, I love that Rupal specifies, RuPaul says, you win $10,000 cash. She says it like she's going to come out there with a tray and counted out like a bag. This is where she debuts, dollars. Yeah, $10,000 dollars cash. Yeah. Like, she's going to come out there in front of you, like a notary public at the bank and like give you 20, 40, 60. Like with the balls and then she's going to. And this is also where they introduce the running gag of judges being bored during deliberation.

Oh, I loved it. You know what I would, I think that a missed opportunity was watching is like, you know how they do the cash machines that count it? I think they should have had a cash machine that flung it at you in real time. Oh, yeah. That would have been really great. Rather than come from the ceiling or they should have just put it in the, like a dollar bills in the cash machine and that just flew right out there. Oh,

you know what I wish they would do on drag, do you think they've ever done the phone booth with the wind, the grabbing the money? Oh, that would be great. In drag. Yeah. With makeup.

Trying to do your makeup with the powder and everything. Absolutely. You know what? I would come ready. Fly paper on the hands. Scotch tape all over your face. Oh, can I say, Katia. Oh, so you just found out this day.

This is how they're doing eliminations. Yeah. For you, when you're four hours of processing this, what is your point of view personally on how elimination should be done? Because everybody has started to have different. I want to know what you thought. We came up with a consensus. I remember there was a not a very rigid, but there was a penciled in group consensus that

we were just going to go with the judge's critique, but also like what did we all? I mean, I think it was with our opinions and the opinions of the judges, all the information available with our own observation, who do we think is should go home? Like it was a more objective observable criteria with that challenge. Now it gets a little funky in the in the, because it wasn't cumulative. Because I'm just wondering, because us on season three and beyond, we also can decide how we want to judge based on how we've seen All-Stars 2 go. Exactly.

Like you guys have no prior knowledge. of like fan backlash for eliminating someone like you know yeah yeah but we're not nobody's stupid in that in that area and I think that in the future episode in a future episode very soon elissa will make a decision that's based based more about what the fans will think of her than what is objectively who is objectively the least strong in the in the in the in the challenge yeah yeah and I'm like great but guess what that's also an asset but I also think I'm like I yeah I think if you win the challenge, you should be able to eliminate anyone based on, I just don't like you, bitch. Do whatever you want. You won the challenge. You're too cheerful in the morning. I don't

fuck with you. And I have no issue with I'm eliminating you because you're the best and I want to win. I have with that. I love that. Remember when Naomi did it? Life's not fair. Yes. I love that. It's the best TV and it's also really helpful for you. T. It's like, yeah, I don't want to have to be like, I just get rid of the, I want to make, I want to make fabulous TV and also want to make it easier for myself to wait. Because something they don't really talk about. is, I mean, we'll get there, but something they don't really talk about is sending someone home and ruining your career by pissing off fans that way. That's something they don't ever really talk about until later seasons, but that is something

that you guys probably like. And it's a nebulous thing because it's also, again, this is show not tell. It's show not tell. You don't, these are things you don't say like, I'm a really great person. No, I'll believe it when I see it. Yeah. You know, like, you got to make up some, you got to, you got a spinning yarn or whatever, but you're like, how do you convince somebody you're good person by doing good things?

Right. And because you whip, you kind of want to show people your girth and your cock. Yeah. Your huge cock. You want to show people the girth of your cock. Okay, I have a voice note from, um, wait, wait, wait, never mind. It's for another runway. I got a voice note from Pifi.

Oh, fierce. Well, I think, and then who goes home? Oh, so wait, does anybody go home? Cocoa. Take it off. Oh, yeah. The lip sync is take it off. Take one off.

Shake it off. Shake it off. Shake it off. Take it off. It's taken away by, um, it's baking a million. It's bake it off. Um, it's a great lip sync. Sure.

It's a great lip sync song. Yeah. It's great. It's great. It's got a crescendo, whatever. I love this. And, um, Roxy wins. Yeah.

Coco goes home. Shout out to Coco. Shout out to the art. Shout out to this. And, um, it's fierce. I can't wait to see what happens. I know. And stay tuned because it's really going down next episode.

Well, if you're staying here on the pod with us next week, we're going to go back to current events, you know, the 405. Yeah. But if you're following us over to the, yeah, to the pieceler. then we're going to be continuing with episode 2, 3, 4, 5, and beyond. And I'm really excited because I just love this season. You guys, and this is a note to any of the girls out there who might be listening, this is the best season of Drag Race.

The cast is horning. Even us critiquing it, making fun of it, we're talking about the best fucking season of Rodriguez. Let me very quickly wrap a final thought. You know why I think it's the best season of Drag Race? Because this cast has not grown up watching Drag Race. Oh. But it's true, though.

I mean, I'm one of the, Tatiana is by far the youngest. And then it goes up to Alaska, who's maybe 30. And I'm 32 or 33. I think I'm 34 here. And I'm not like, I'm maybe the, I think Coke was like in her 40s. Like this is a very, not a young crowd. This is not a young crowd. Do you talk is in her 30s?

I think we're all, I think the age range skews like 30-ish. That's a great age for drag race. Right. And also it means at this time means we're not cannibalizing drag lingo. We're not only, we're not, guess God. I mean, that is only starting to happen. Right. Alaska is parroting a Lagangea, but that's still very fresh at this point.

That's really true. Let's get all started. It was actually hysterical because it wasn't so played out yet. And so many things that become Dragor's canon happen, Rigger Morris. Rigger Morris, so many things get invented. Stunning. The talent show. Yeah.

This style of elimination. Yeah. This, I remember watching this on TV. being like, this is the best. And then the crystallizing of the drag lingo hadn't really been set in stone yet. And it hadn't been that overplayed or played out. Right. Yeah.

So this is interesting. I'm excited to watch the whole season. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. Right before we wrap, we have a surprise from you. Oh my God, we got a surprise. It's from your friends at outshine pop shuffles. Oh, get out of here.

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