The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya - Trash Bags Full of Cash with Mrs. Kasha Davis

Episode Date: March 2, 2021

This week Trixie and Katya are joined by the infamous, inimitable star of Drag Race season 7, legend of stage and screen, Mrs. Kasha Davis! They talk Botox, witch hazel, trash bags full of dollar bills, and how to keep a long-time marriage spicy after more than a decade. (hint: it involves wigs) Follow Mrs. Kasha Davis: @MrsKashaDavis Follow Trixie: @TrixieMattel Follow Katya: @Katya_Zamo To listen to our podcast on YouTube: http://bit.ly/TBATBYT Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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She's a champion of mental health, comedy, and sobriety. She's also an incredible reader of literature to the child folk, children. She has one of the most beautiful natural eye colors I've ever seen. And an incredibly stunning disposition that lays waste to men near and far. And she once told me my feet smelled and I'll never forget it. We were backstage at the season seven premiere and you were doing some kind of yoga. You know that thing where you do that handstand, the arm stand and then your legs scissor and then they rotate.

I tried it and I had my shoes off and I said, I think my feet kind of smell and Kasha was sitting across the room and she went, they do. And it was at that moment. I knew Kasha would never lie to me or let me down. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, Mrs.

Kasha Davis. Oh my God. I know you boys. I feel like, I feel like I was like with the two little nephews or something. Nieces. I love that you can, this storyline, I'm like literally three years younger than you, Kasia. I know, but let's face the facts.

You might be three years younger, but you have a little bit more of a younger aesthetic and a following. Oh, yes. She's dressing outside her age bracket, absolutely. Those filters you're doing with the old age, that, now we look alike. Oh, yes. She's dressing outside her age bracket. Absolutely. Those filters you're doing with the old age, now we look alike. I have to tell you, I love that because you know what happens? My skin is...

Horrible. You know what? I don't think your skin is that bad. No, no, no. It's all relative. It's all relative. It's all relative. The problem is, Kasha, I know you.

You're a beauty potion skincare girl, right? You take care of your face. Look at that material. Of course she does. Yeah, I mean, look at this. I mean, this, I'm bleached out with lights. There's no, I use witch hazel. But didn't we talk about once that you had acne?

You were a very oil-prone, acne-young person, right? Oh, yeah. I mean, I had – but my parents taught me to just pop those zits. I mean, I was – Pop those zits and feed the children. Put alcohol on it. Oh, my God. I mean, to say that your skin – I mean, you have the skin of a very young person, I think.

Yeah, at least from this screen, it looks beautiful. Yeah, from this iPad, poorly lit, thousands of miles away on my Wi-Fi. Stunning. It's even and smooth and I don't see a blemish, a wrinkle, or a pore. Well, this is Botox just recently. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. How do you feel about it?

I love Botox for the forehead. I did it once for the lip to try to get that little thing going on there. It did nothing. Okay. All right. And Darian gets her lips like she's like like plumped up lips. And I just think I would look, you know, I'm already

not the most feminine fella. Darian's allergic to nuts, but she loves that pecan pie and she just won't stop. So that mouth just swells up every time. Yeah. I mean, she up every time. Yeah. I mean, she, she is into it. Yeah.

I love Botox too. I've recently, I got it. I got the full, and I always tell them, I'm like, listen, I have a metabol, I have the metabolism of a velociraptor.

You need to, you need to, whatever you think is the limit, double it. And I don't know. Go ahead. They, they all, and always there's one teeny little area, usually above one eye, that they miss or that doesn't take or whatever, chews it up. And so I have, you can see.

Oh, yeah. I'm trying to raise my eyebrows. Kasia, if you could see it, she looks suspicious. She is horrible. Which I can't do that. I can't, like like isolate those eyebrows normally. So I guess that's a fun thing. But yeah, so that's always with the Botox.

I have to go for a touch up. I always go for a touch up. And then if you, I don't know if you can see, but there's like a line here. I get the droop, they call it. The droop. So this, this part of my forehead, it goes. Really? And so I have, so I have to be careful not to get too much.

Cause then all of a sudden these lids will get heavier. Oh, really? Now, would you be, I've been, so my studio mate is obsessed with plastic surgery. So I'm kind of like, I'm learning all these new techniques and stuff. And I've learned about this thread. So it's a barbed thread that they take a cannula.

Is that what it's called a hollow needle a kenya michaels a tiny little a tiny little dancing needle a kenja michaels and it it goes in and the barbs kind of catch on the muscle right and they pull yes and it stays in there and it dissolvesves eventually, I think. Like implanted face tapes, basically? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I just feel like it's like those, like, you know, bungee wraps. Or what are those things called? Those plastic things that...

Oh, zip ties. Zip ties. It's like a zip tie with, like, razors or something. Yeah, it's the barbs on it that kind of... Yeah. So wait a minute. Is this ignorant? Can bald people get facelifts?

Because where do you hide the seam? You know, if you don't have hair. Under your lace front wig. Yeah, there you go. Is it behind the ear? If you get like a male bottom yank, can you hide it behind the ear? Well, let's ask RuPaul. I was just going to say, Ru's got to know.

I think she got a full yank. Yeah, and she really lucks out because the deeper skin you have, the more chance you have to have some kind of unwanted scarring. deeper skin you have the more chance you have to have some kind of unwanted scarring because skin with melt like melanated skin can like scar more unappealingly differently versus like really fair people it's just going to be a scar uh-huh it's just i think i think that it's here and then it's like back i think it's behind the ears too yeah because i remember not to not to gossip but i mean i remember when she was doing all those like scarves and stuff on late night. I was like, oh, she got a yank.

She got a full yank. There's like, that's it. That's absolutely, that has to be. That's just a gossip point of view. I don't know. I'm ready for the full bottom yank. The bottom yank? No, the bottom half of the face yank.

I think about it all the time. I do this. I've done this since my twenties. I'm always like. Tell us about it. No, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. I always push my face up

Like I've all I'm obsessed with that whole thing Well that's I don't think Those are the threads That's the threads I know but I think that you can tape

And I think that you could just Highlight and it's fine You can also just practice acceptance Hashtag grateful On this podcast Have you done the tapes Kasia? No I mean I No Cause that's I sweat too much Thank you I just stand Hashtag grateful Have you done the tapes Kasia? No I mean no because I sweat too much

Thank you Not a chance You'd have to do You'd have to do so much And you'd have to go around You'd have to do the whole wrap the head And then a wig cap Do you know what I mean?

It's like so much going on there I use this shit This like wig cap and then the do you know what i mean you have it's like so much going on there well i like to use i use this shit this like um medical like adhesive like wrap oh yeah okay you know and you oh and you put yeah you put yeah okay i got it you kind of wrap and wrap and wrap and then i get that jasmine master's brain looking thing on the brain yeah Oh, the brain. The brain wrinkle. And sort of the forceful wrapping just snatches it up. Ladies, do you like good juicy brains? Yeah. Get yourself a head wrap.

Get yourself a head wrap. I mean, I wear so much makeup, they don't really see it. But out of drag, honestly, if we're going to be honest, I know most drag queens are like, well, I have to get the work done because I'm a drag queen.

I don't care about how it affects my drag. I agree. Yeah. I don't think it's because the drag is just slapping. You can hide anything. And we all have. I mean, even Kasia has. You wear a lot of makeup.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think I do a lot of like foundation and like the contour and all that kind of stuff. And your eyes are huge. You have huge eyes. Giant lashes. You know, you do the whole thing. eyes are huge. You have huge eyes, giant lashes, big, you know,

you do the whole thing. Yeah. Right. You know, she's a lady still, but. So there's a lot of forgiveness. I feel like with,

if we're talking about wrinkles, blemishes are aged defining marks. Yeah. Right. You know, but I agree with you during the day. It's all about, I'd be like,

Oh God, that's when I would start to feel like. And it's smart. Cause show, like, I guess you picked a character that can age pretty gracefully because she's meant

to be like married and settled and she's not the internationally known fiance exactly yeah I mean I'll tell you this Mr. Davis always says he's like oh my gosh I like it when you try to be sexy or like because I have, you know.

Tell us about it. Grandma wigs and stuff all the time. And that's what I love. Or the glasses. And because, you know, Kosh is eternally 50. And then, like, I'll get out of drag and people are like, oh, you look really good. I'm like, whatever, because, you know, Kosh is older. Right.

But, so, Steven or, like, Darren, they'll they'll be like oh i like it when you do the soft like i'll get over too many compliments when i try to look younger yeah um your husband yeah it's okay does the husband does mr davis like you in drag no not sexually uh no i mean we've never even kissed like we'll like we do our little life with the Davises thing, and we'll do, like, a little peck, and I'm like, oh, my God, he kissed. He's just like, meh. You know, it's not his thing. He's always been very accepting of it. He's never been, like, uninterested in, like, you know, dating someone who is in drag or whatever, but he's just not going to, like, you know, put on your panties panties mrs davis let's get busy i can't get hard unless the wig is on put on your 50 year old

panties yeah have you ever have you ever thought about having sex in drag i don't know why it's funny it's just the way that you ask the question. Have you ever thought about it? No. Because I never thought about it in my 20s. And only maybe the last two years have I been like, I don't know if I want to do it. Have you ever thought about doing it? Absolutely not. Not for me. And I have no problem with, you know, you do you. But it's just not – there's too much stuff in the way.

Yeah. I was just going to say that's usually – it's a lot of like – you think about sex, you think about being naked. Usually. I mean sometimes. Traditionally, let's say. Yeah. Well, but let's be honest. I don't know about you fellas.

But for me, I mean I don't get a lot of like nudie pictures over my socials. And after being on Drag Race... Not with that attitude. By the way, that's her modestly asking the world, send Mrs. Kasha Davis a little bit. She's consenting to the nudes, folks. Yeah. No, but, like, nobody was ever...

My point is, nobody was ever interested in Mrs. Kasha Davis that way. And now, like, since Drag Race, people will send stuff, and I'm like, Mr. Davis, look what we got for tonight. You know? And it's always, like, an 18-year-old from Argentina. Oh, God. and stragglers people will send stuff and i'm like mr davis look what we got for tonight you know and it's always like an 18 year old from argentina oh god it's never like a fit a fit man your age in the area right no yeah never yeah always somebody in germany have you ever been sent marriage forms

what do you mean marriage forms i got notary i'm a notary i got like i'm looking to come to the country and i could be an amazing husband for you. And like, it was like the first documents to like a marriage certificate to start filling out. Let's start the paperwork. And they sent dick pictures. That's kind of incredible. That is pretty good. That is, you know, somebody who's going to close the deal. Yeah.

Nothing sexier than marriage fraud. I was about 23 at the time. So I don't think that's on the horizon for me anymore. How long have you been married, Mrs. Davis? Well, we're 18 years, we say. Because, you know, so much of it wasn't legal. We say 18 years, but it's only been four months. Oh, right, right, right.

Oh, that's right. Gay people. Well, yeah. I mean, I feel like since we got together, we were, you know, we were in it to win it. Right. We say 18 married, you know 10 10 legal eight happy yeah um that kind of a thing because it's tough it gets tougher when you get older you know and uh when you have a more tenured relationship you gotta spice shit up yeah maybe throw the wig on i don't

know it changes right i mean it's the relationship changes i'm assuming oh here we go throw the wig on i don't know it changes right i mean it the relationship changes i'm assuming oh here we go yeah the wig thank god oh work oh my god so we had a wig like that back in the wig shop that was called opus opus winfrey opus opus in that color number two a 2b yeah you got opus and 2b that's my uh my good good old Judy Garland wig that I've had since like, yeah, forever. So, okay, speaking of like, this is called the bald and beautiful. We often talk about beauty influences and style and stuff like that. We try to. So, Judy Garland, who would you say your like top three beauty icons are?

Oh, well, Joan Collins, you know, the 1980s dynasty kind of thing. Oh, I can't believe that is so you now that you mention it. Yeah. You know, then but then definitely like Joan, Joanne Worley, Lucille Ball. Like, I don't know who Joanne Worley is. Who's Joanne Worley? Yes, you do. So Nina West did Joanne Worley as a part of she's a comedian and she

was on laughing she goes and she swings the the pearls around her neck she is a kooky 1960s uh comedian okay i'm gonna i gotta look i guess we're about to get dragged yeah yeah in the comments you know what i mean 18 year olds who listen to us are gonna be like i don't fucking know it either if it's not billy eyelash i don't fucking know it either. If it's not Billie Eilish, I don't fucking care. Yeah, they definitely don't know who that is. Well, you know, when you're like a 21-year-old drag queen, you only know what you know. And then I think the longer you do drag, you go back deeper. You learn about the Joanne Worley's later.

Yeah, well, and it's like the dress you just wore with the, you know, for your new single, Trixie, with the crossword. The crossword, yeah. So she had that, like the mod kind of stuff. Oh, cool. I'm going to look this whore up. Yeah, you better look her up. Laugh at it. You'll totally hate her.

But, I mean, you'll probably gravitate more to the Goldie Hawn of that time. She was, you know. Oh, my God. I have an entire folder on my phone saved of Goldie Hawn of that time. She was, you know. Oh my God. I have an entire folder on my phone saved of Goldie Hawn from Hullabaloo. Just so fucking hot, dude. So great. So beautiful.

And the outfits and the hair. I mean, she makes me want to wear that short vanity wig, that new one, that like 60s little posh. The touch and go bus driver. Yeah. It's like the little,

it's like a twiggy wig. Yeah. Well, And speaking of Botox and plastic surgery, Pandora Box is working to get to look like Goldie Hawn's face these days. She's really... She's in her 60s now, right?

No, actually. Isn't Pandora... She's in her 50s, right? She's deceptively... Is that horrible? I think she is in her 50s. It's probably she's deceptively is that horrible yes it is i think she is in her 50s it's probably on wikipedia but i will say i will say that's just letting us hypothesize she probably the one thing i will say about pindora is that i for a white person you know that like older white folks often look like whodunit but she in in and out of drag i was like when i found out how old

she was i was like you have got to be kidding me. Pam from True Blood. She looks incredible. I mean, great. She's 49. Holy shit. See, I wasn't that wild. Holy shit.

That's crazy. She looks incredible. She and Darian are 49, and then I turned 50 in March. Wow. I'm the first one to be 50. Oh, my God. Wow. So you guys are all, that's so cute.

The trio. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. to be 50. Oh my god, wow. So you guys are all, that's so cute. The trio. That's awesome. Same age, same town. That's really special. Same mental problems. When I came to Rochester in 99, they were up on stage and I was just pissing my pants drunk in the audience. Having a good time, enjoying the show. But no no no no desire to do drag when i first saw them i just liked the show it was great you know darian was up there in a little wonder woman costume dancing her butt off and pandora was doing you know crazy mixes and it was so much fun but um yeah so then eventually then i got to join that group which was incredible and how how would you so a late start when how old were you when you started

doing drag um 2004 so what's the math i don't know 30 something wow that's a really late start i mean i say i have a late start and i think i started at least 25 or something. Yeah. These kids are doing it at 14, 12, whatever. Oh, people are like, I'm skipping college to be a drag queen because it's a get rich quick scheme. Goodbye. Oh, I know. Yeah, seriously. For some, for some, it's a great, you know.

Isn't that wild? Don't you think? I mean, cause you know, as well as we do is like, I mean, I never expected to get rich in drag and it were like, or ever expect to be cool. I thought I was rich in drag when I would be able to go home with like $100. You know what I mean? Girl, do you remember, Trixie? I don't know if you remember, but I thought it was the most adorable thing.

I remember everything, Kasha Davis. Well, we were in San Francisco and your suitcase was full of cash and you're like, oh, yeah, I just check it like that. And then you had a trash bag with merch that was ripped and some of your cash was falling out of that. And then you had a fanny pack that had a hole in it. And I was like, girl, you need. Oh, the fanny pack with a hole in it. This wasn't even that long ago. This is after I'd done television.

A trash bag full of merchandise with a fanny pack with a hole in it with money falling out. Yeah. And I was like, but I was like, Trixie, come on. And I was like, you have to at least iron like you know fold those dollars out you're like no it's fine you guys i just i just came from i just was so trash through college and everything like i remember coming home after when i was touring the first you know during season seven touring i would come home with a paper bag like a grocery bag rolled up and it was like my bank now it's full of money and if

we're going out i would have a a paper sandwich bag full of just cash and i just pull it out at the bar and like and people were like you need to stop that you know who stopped it coco peru she watched me open a suitcase one day and money came out crumpled and she goes are you freaking kidding me and she like shamed me out of it that's incredible good but you i your book through thursday through sunday lip syncing and you're drinking you're not going to stay up at 2 a.m one two i did you did yeah because you had to dry out the costumes yeah they all had to i had to dry out the money and like i to lay everything out. The bills would be soaked with sweat. So I had to put out my panties and my undergarments and my tights, and then the cash had to dry, and then it would become crispy.

Well, I didn't have to stay up that late because I only had to count like $10 or $20. I was like, what? She's all done. No, but it was the most adorable thing. I have to tell you, Trixie, I get to do interviews, she's all done. No, but I was like, it was the most adorable thing. And I was so, I have to tell you, Trixie,

I get to do, you know, interviews as we all do. And I always say right from the get go, when we would have our little conference calls or stuff like that, you were always like, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that.

This business plan. This is my merch. And I was just always so impressed with that. Thank you. And she did it. I am. And you, And you are still doing it. I am the capitalist. Even though sometimes I want to kick you right in the crotch, I'm like, good for you.

I just always feel like if you build it, they will come. Everybody should believe in themselves. Every idea is a good idea. That's not true. That is absolutely not true. I think what people should believe in themselves. Or yeah, I think that what can be what is inspiring about her is that she says, she has a plan and then she does it.

Yep. Yeah. It doesn't matter if it works or not. It usually works, but you do it. Well, Kasha, you're- Go ahead. We would be texting and you'd say to me like, so what's your plan for merch?

And I'm like, I don't know. I'm having a Chardonnay. Like I was just couldn't believe it, you know? And I would get off the phone and I'd be like, Steve, she's planning merch. And he's like, well, let's see what happens. Now he knew damn well I didn't go far. So he was like, we don't need to worry about merch. But I was very inspiring.

I know. I just always think like with, I don't know, merchandise. I mean, I used to print and ship my own merchandise i i can't which was crazy all through season seven i can't even imagine i would maybe i would come home you know we tour bars on the weekends i'd be at home on a monday listening to podcast stuff and people's shirts and bags oh my god for a year like a year and a half probably i can't imagine it was crazy but you and you did tell me on the set like, if I'm still doing drag at your age, kill me. Oh, yeah.

When do I get the gun? I'm ticking off the days until I can. Well, I will say, you know, you guys didn't do drag as young as me, but I remember being 21 doing drag and going like 30 year old drag queen. What is that? I thought 30 was like depressing and now I'm 38. Right. You keep thinking when you're young, you think like, I'm not going to do this forever. And then 10 or I've been doing it 13 years and now I'm like, well, I know drag queens who are 60 doing a great job.

So yeah. The only thing I think is depressing about it, aging, quote unquote, drag queen is if it's not fun. Like that's the only thing that's depressing like a drag queen who doesn't want to do drag doing drag at 60 is it's like a david lynch movie you know it's bizarre yeah it also depends on your aesthetic like i mean kasha i think you're smart to pick something you could age with and into because wasn't older than you when you started did what kasha's older than you like the character just now becoming her age exactly yeah she was always 50 so i'm just catching up yeah yeah so she's

so she's like you're yeah you're set in terms of age because you're you'll never really meet her yeah and like you know you chose a character that's like an aged grizzled hooker. Well, no, I think the only thing I did, I chose a character that's not consistently sexy. And that's important, though, because now I'm doing it digitally, but I like to explore being ugly because then it just refreshes people. You're like, oh. Oh. Yeah, you can't give them a hot all the time.

You can't give them a hot all the time? Yeah. No. No. But that face app You mentioned earlier It is for me personally I love it so much And then I'll put

Read I'll take the old picture And then I'll put it back In the program Make it older And then so on and so forth And then the baby Yes

And then you're throwing a baby And then But then when you do A regular picture You're like Oh I'm gorgeous Right

I look great. Yeah. But really comes back down to what you said. You're having fun, you know, and you're trying different things. And each of you have done that. And I think that, you know, I work to try to do those types of things to keep myself interested. And that's what people like, you know, who Aggie Dune is. I think at least Trixie does.

70 years old. She's 70 or 80. No, but you know what i mean she's she's always like you know you've got to get on the microphone you've got to do other things besides you know only lip sync because you want to keep yourself interested so that the world sees you're having fun yeah challenge i like her i feel like i like her a lot aggie yeah she gave me you know what she gave me a teasing brush that i still have and still use that's really sweet i wonder if she knows that she was like kind of like that yeah she's like we have them at the salon keep mine and i was like thank you it was probably turquoise turquoise

turquoise she does hair and darian does hair too, right? They both do hair? Yeah, she owns the salon where Darian works. Oh, cool. Bunch of fags clipping hairs. I know. Just drag fags. We're going to take a break. This episode is brought to you by CIBC.

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Ooh, a housewife dress. I can touch myself. A housewife dress, really? Yeah. What is a housewife dress? I think you look hot in those little

Tina Turner dresses with the sequins. Oh yeah, the little, the shimmy dress. A leg. And fucking jacked arms. You fucking bull dagger.

Oh my God. I'm back to working out. I did. I started back with a trainer. Cause I'm like, you know what? Why the hell not? You know,

I want to turn 50 and be like this. These arms are great. The gut will always be what it is. Um, you know, at this point i'm like i have been trying sit-ups for years and i you know i can't even get one ab going so i'm like it's just gonna be what it is you got corsets for that that's the hard i think that's the hardest thing like abs like oh yeah and drag when you're a man when when you're a born male, you gain weight in the middle really only.

And so then it's tough in the face. But I also think when I first started drag, it was all about hide your arms. I used to have to wear that shrugs and don't let anybody see. But I'm so excited how more and more now people are like, hairy drag, arms out, arms out whatever and it's like there's it's just whatever whatever you want to do to express yourself i just love that so you know she's building her arms back up great yeah i like and i like it when um i love how it's it can be very polarizing certain aspects of like that gender play and how um heated and impassioned people get about it like it's like angers i love that the people like

you know um i don't know anything from like yeah beards or whatever like people get really up in arms about it i think that's fun i think showing arms is whenever there's correct proportions you can show anything yeah and i never care when i see other drag queens arms but i don't feel comfortable showing my own very much unless they're slathered in makeup and I have a huge wig on. Seriously, like, when I see like Kasia showing arms, it doesn't bother, I don't think twice about it,

but when I'm in drag and look in the mirror and see arms, I'm like, oh, I don't know, I need to cover, you know. Well, yeah, because that doesn't go with your like extra small petite French vanilla fantasy. And if I do show arms,

full coverage foundation to the armpit. And contoured. And contoured, contoured arms. Why? The skin or? I just want it all to match. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

To me, makeup, if it shows, it goes with makeup. Like I paint the hands, the ears. It shows, it goes. The back of the neck. Wow. I mean, I wish I had taken her advice from the jump because I recently saw a clip of me and I

was featuring at least four very distinct shades of skin. Ranging from yellow ochre, cherry tomato to raw sienna and then a corpse gray which interview was it um it was a was it the on the couch yes yes yes and i had no assistant that day

and i was like running late and i'm like oh i really did wear those those fishnets i wore those tights with no fishnets and had in my hands look like the cryptkeeper yeah the cryptkeeper and the foundation i think it also has to do with the color balancing. The foundation really picked up the, the yellow. So her face is yellow. Her neck is red. Her hand is gray.

And her legs are like a black tight. The brown. They were like, it was, it was, you know, but with no fishnets. I mean,

listen, you just taught me something, but most of my filming is done on my iphone in the basement so i don't have to worry you know i mean like it's you know we're just doing this but i think that is i have noticed in photos i'm like wow those legs my you know my leg color might not match so i see what you mean it's and that's like it's hard it's hard to do that's why a solid opaque color tight is a really good choice. Especially drag queens.

We're wearing multiple layers of light suntan. There's no way your face is going to match that because you're not Bart Simpson or something. That's why a black fishnet is kind of like you have to do it always, I feel like. Yeah. Did you ever get those shimmer tights to go underneath and try that? The Lady Bunny tights. Yeah. Do you ever get those shimmer tights to go underneath and try that? The Lady Bunny tights. Yeah. Do you guys like them?

Personally, I have never been able to make them work. I can't make them work. So they seem to take away the definition on the muscles in your legs. I don't know what happens where like a regular tight will still show your leg. But then when I put those on, I'm like, what the heck? There's no definition. Like something changes. It's bizarre for me.

I feel like I agree. Like somehow it appears that the muscle definition is gone. And also they look at the same time fat and too skinny. It's so bizarre. They're like, it's so weird. The shimmery ones also don't stretch as much. So like an extra large in this shimmery, you need a 2X. Yeah.

They always end up looking a little gray on me. So it's like I have little like wet gray chicken legs. I don't know if people know what we're talking about. Think of like Lady Bunny's legs. Shimmery brown. Yeah. It's a shimmer. I don't know.

Lady Bunny's legs are the color of Peppermint's boobs. Yes. Yes. Just gold, bronze, shiny. Peppermint's boobs. Yes. Yes. Just gold. Yeah. Bronze. Shiny. Yeah.

Peppermint calls them her golden globes. It was her birthday yesterday. Happy birthday Peppermint. Oh, happy birthday Pepp. She's also 50. So what have you been up to gal? What have I been up to? Well, you know, you said it earlier on.

I love my story time, and I'm working on, we got some sizzle reels and some pitches out to, you know, streaming platforms to try to get that kids show going is the dream of mine. Oh, my gosh. So it's like, you know, imagine Pee Wee's Playhouse slash, you know, the campiness of Pee Wee and the honesty of Mr. Rogers. Oh, that's great. So, you know, that is something that, fingers crossed.

But then Workhorse Queen is a documentary that was done over the past couple years by Angela Washko. And that is premiering at Slamdance Film Festival, February 12th through 25th. Oh, shit. That's fantastic. In L.A., yeah. Wow. Have you been to a film festival? I've been to a film festival.

Yeah, I've never really been to one until semi-recently, and they don't sound exciting, but they are. When you get there, it's really cool. Well, I mean, this is obviously because of COVID. It's streaming online. But yeah, I think they're fantastic. And people are just – it's new artists a lot of times, which I think is really cool to be able to see the opportunities that they're, you know, putting out there. And I mean, I'm just I'm so humbled and flattered that she decided to tell the story.

And there's some shit in that documentary that, you know, like even my husband says that floored me. So I, you know, watching it, I know it's me, but I was laughing and crying. And I'm really excited that it's out. Because I remember when I first started, I was doing my show, There's Always Time for a Cocktail, which tells my story. I was so anxious to tell my story. And Mimi on first was like, girl, nobody knows you. They don't want to know your life story. Why don't you just lip sync a song first?

Mimi on first keeping it real. i'm first keeping it so real but but she was right you know she's like nobody knows who the hell you are so she was right and so now time has gone on and i'm excited about it you know it obviously talks about sobriety right and um do you feel weird do you feel weird watching people watching does you think it's gonna be weird having people watch you talk about that well the whole thing is weird i feel like number one i'm turning 50 number two here's the story of my life and all the people that have died i feel like it's the movie that's playing like as we're all sitting around at my funeral i'm like i love it already yeah did they have cameras following you

around like what was the what was the process like for a couple years so at the time i was i was going to australia i was uh drag cons so she had followed me everywhere that's a lot that's a it's a commitment and a labor of love that's like did you ever feel like do you have any moments where like get that fucking camera away from me or you felt too exposed or raw or whatever? Yeah. I mean, it was definitely like, there were a couple of times at drag con where, and she shows it. Like I tried to do a story time at drag con and I think five people came to the, you know,

the seminar or whatever you call it. And I was like, oh, you know, and I'm like, why are you filming this? Maybe you shouldn't have called the kids show a seminar. What did they call it? Maybe they thought you were trying to hustle timeshares. I know, right? What is it called? There's a children's seminar. Come children to the seminar.

There's a PowerPoint. We've got great property in Boca. I can't think of what they're called. Oh, like a panel? Panel, panel. The panel, thanks. So yeah, nobody was at it, and I was like, wow, this is great. But that's the good part about the story is it shows no matter what age you are,

you can have dreams and you can keep following them, and that makes me happy that that message is out there. Tempest Azure taught us that, and I always think of her um since she passed girl everything in her house passes I'm just kidding Tempest du jour is alive if everyone's listening it's just a joke it's just a joke but you cracked me up that day when you said something does anything in your house any animal in your house live? People were so mad. People were like, it's a sensitive time.

How dare you? I'm like, girl, because I know her like that. Yeah. You know what Tempest D'Jor was standing over the dead animal's body trying to find something to laugh about. I mean, that's her vibe. Yeah. She has all these rescues. Yeah.

And she's like, woke up today. The penguin killed the tarantulas. And I'm like, what? Yeah. It's crazy. She's got a pretty dirty sense of humor and a funny sense of humor too. She's rotten. She's rotten. You want to talk somebody who doesn't age? Tempest DuJour is running the streets of West Hollywood in drag with six porn actors blackout drunk.

She's like, girl, why aren't you out i'm like it's monday it's 1 p.m she when we were when we did our season seven tour we were in vegas and i think at that point we had lost candy in new orleans we got to vegas i mean she she never made it we got to vegas congenital heart failure i went to like the nickel slots all night and trixie was um what's her name uh tempest was like i'm going to bed and i'm at the nickel slots i'm like i'm having a good time yeah so she comes in the morning to get me and she's like we're not going to be candy we're not going to miss this i am passed out drunk in drag on the bed she's like get dressed i was like she came in like mama bear wow and yeah and it was get on that plane then we drag on the bed she's like get dressed i was like she came in like mama bear

wow and yeah and it was get on that plane then we got on the plane wait wait you were passed out in in drag in the morning yes because i went to play the nickel slots in drag and you're in bed in drag sleeping and tempest du jour has to get you on the plane. Holy shit. I feel like that's a jackpot. Yeah, right? I won. I won. And then I get on the plane and then guess who's playing footsie with me? Lady Bunny.

Who's playing footsie with you? She's playing footsie with me. And she's like, hey, gotcha. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no no i was like jeff daniels no oh my god what and then you're hung over and that made you wretch right there on the plane that i need to see that in the documentary. or a consultant. You can get customized coverage for your business. Contact a licensed TD insurance advisor to learn more. Oh, boy. I should have read the best before date on this milk. Since I'm with Fizz,

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I think of like when I was doing clubs, like, you know, when you first do Drag Race, we were all doing the nightclubs. And when you're doing nightclubs, Thursdays, Fridays, Saturdays, every morning you're hungover and you're like, what am I doing? How do you do that?

Because every night is quiet. Do you feel like physically sick? How would you describe a hangover, Kasia? I mean, for me, it was definitely like headache. I was never one who like retched or puked all the time. I would just be like dehydrated. Is it that

like hair of the dog thing that you kind of get over it by drinking more? They say that? It's not true. I've never found that to be true. No, you're basically just getting drunk again. Yeah, hair of the dog. say that is not true i've never found that to be true okay no you're basically just getting drunk again yeah hair of the dog and the dog is uh jim bean yeah you're just getting drunk again to me a hangover it's like it's worst it's the worst right when you wake up and it just feels like your body's got cement bricks on it in bed and you're like. And then you're so dehydrated that like your eyes hurt to open.

Oh, God. It hurts to hear noise and see light. It's just everything. Wow. Sign me up. That sounds so bad. You were working on trying to get sober the next morning. I was like, well, give me an hour with breakfast and then I'll have another shot of something on the sly.

Wow. I know. Your book, There's always time for a cocktail until there is. Right. Until that clock runs out. It's also the anti-aging miracle is just don't drink. Yeah, sure. Yeah, it is. Drink water. Lots of water. Well, it's amazing how many performers in general, not just drag queens, but performers in general who are sober. It's a tough lifestyle.

I feel like, yeah, because I feel like in a lot of sectors of this entertainment industry, you're either like an active fucking drunk or you've gotten sober. Seriously, when you're a drag queen and you say you don't want to drink, people assume you're either in the program yeah or nothing else that's it yeah yeah in order to sustain in order to sustain a drag career 10 years and beyond you have to change your relationship with alcohol because being 21 and drinking every night because you're at a bar it's that's not sustainable no it's just not and you also think you're more fierce and funnier and and you believe all of that and then you look back and you're like yeah what was it like i mean because i'll never forget the first time i i performed not drunk and in drag and i it was like i always had a different body i felt like i was on a cruise ship or something it was so bizarre to not be drunk in front of an audience

doing my wiggle numbers it was like do you know what I mean I felt so self conscious and it was like oh god this song suddenly feels really long long long and boring and like it's just a whole thing

what was that like for you I mean it was definitely a little uncomfortable. But if I think back, I had more experience with theater and dance. So it just I didn't go out on, you know, on stage for the Nutcracker hammered. But it seems like in drag, that's OK. Right. But then what's what's even what I loved was doing like hosting or stand up and you know, when you, you can't remember the next word when you're drunk, you're just, there's

a blank. Yeah. But when you get that blank, when you're sober, you're like, okay, it's a blank. So hang on, something's going to come. And then something funnier comes because, you know, you're clearer and you can just like work through those moments. Yeah. Um, but when I was, when I was drunk, I'd be like, well, I'm just leaving the stage now because nothing

else is coming, which was essentially all of my appearance on season seven because it wasn't drunk, but it was Xanax. I had a little Xanax over at my station. What? You are joking. Yeah. So that's why, I mean, I'm i i i hope someday to be cast on all stars i will be awake everybody you know like you would be a great all-stars competitor no fucking shit

would you do that shit i totally would yeah oh thank you good bob katya wants to do it again too i would love to do it again well i mean yeah alaska said she would do it again yeah why the hell not why not and then once you take the pressure off, I mean, doing it the first time is stressful. Doing it the second time, Kasia, it's a whole nother ballgame. It's like, who cares? It's fun. It's fun. Yeah.

It's like, I would just think of it as like a TV appearance. Oh, I get to do one again tomorrow. Great. If not, show a dress. And you know all the drag queens, so it doesn't feel weird. Yeah. Exactly. I don't want to meet any more new queens. No, I want them

to die. Well, remember when we'd be in the confessional or whatever, I'm like, I don't even know. They were like, what did you think of everybody you saw? I'm like, I don't know who they are. Who? 13 other girls? Yeah, yeah. The only one I knew from before it was Miss Fame.

And I was like, you know. We're going to take a break and then we're going to talk about your big bald head. And we're back. Kosh, I have to ask, when did you start shaving your head? I've only ever known you as Shaved Head. Oh, my gosh. I think it was after my mom died. I think the stress of that was just like the hair went.

Really? It's just like so much of it fell out. And I had the whole Mr. Burns thing going on, you know? So I have it on the sides and back. And I was trying to grow like these five or six hairs. And our daughters were like, what are you doing? Maybe I first called you again to bully you further. She said, girl, shave your head, you fucking pig.

No, our daughters, we'll see, the youngest is 26. The other one, oldest, is 28. They were always the worst critics. They would come, we'd bring them to the shows, and they would be like, Ed, some of your jokes afterwards, all you hear is cricket, cricket. I was like, oh my God god that's incredible kasha the i mean if you want to know how your show is get the people close to you who do not think you're famous to come to your show absolutely and it gets very clear yeah oh yeah it was great i mean they were like and and this is early like you know i would they're like who's judy garland

could you do something they're like what about like Katy Perry can you do some of this stuff and so I would try to do the songs they'd want and then I'd be like this just doesn't seem right like you know I'm out there like grandma uh doing Katy Perry but you know they would challenge me to update myself sometimes and I loved that but they were the ones they were like it's time to shave your head all my favorite drag queens are people who can keep an eye on their original influences and keep an eye on what's out there now yeah I think a Chad Michaels is a good example

of that where yeah you know they'll she'll do a 50 year old song and a song that came out this week she's got one foot in the now the other foot in the Cretaceous era or Dolly Levi oh my god Dolly Levi the 11 dancing toes of dolly levi she's 112 she's 112 backstage with dolly levi the stories they just go on and on and you're like please

just get me a piece of coconut cake from hamburger mary's and i can sit here and listen to you talk all day i love that and you know when i started in drag there was no drag race and so i wanted to be coke you know varla jean merman coco peru miss richfield is my original inspiration oh right you know and so those were the stars to me and uh and you know going to p town that was like the goal you know, to go there and have a show. And because there was, it was, I mean,

yes, there was RuPaul, but that was like unattainable, unheard of. It was drag queens were cabaret performers. Right. And so I'm, those are the people that I'm attracted to.

Yeah. I would, Coco was my, like a dream model. Yeah. She did monologues and she was like, I just love the way that she, you know, that was like,

I want to do that. Yeah. Yeah. Right. It's still weird to me that I even like know her now. I know. And she's so wonderful. I'm,

she's amazing. One of the nicest people I've ever met in my life. Yeah. She's really amazing. I mean, her shows are, it's like a flagrant display of talent. It's like the Ben and Jinx Christmas special.

It's a slap in the face of talent. You're like, do we quit? Let's quit. So, and you've worked with her, I sure as well she has the full script oh it's memorized to it there's no improv she doesn't even change the commas of the periods at all yeah it's wild and like the paper's not even dirty like mine would have all like coffee stains on it and scribbles and self-doubt like that whole paragraph's got to go. No,

she's like, this is it. Yeah. Yeah. She's just phenomenal. You should do a summer in P town. It was like the hardest thing I ever did. And it really is like baptism by fire.

Oh, because some nights there's 16 people there, rich faggots who will only laugh if it's incredible. Oh, well, I did too two i was there once with pandora and darian i think i remember that yeah and then i came back the following summer and just did my show at the parliament house and one of the best things that's ever happened to me was to be able to do that show because again as you said there was like five ten people

milk was having a show that at that time and tammy and we were all like richfield sold out varla sold out and we have you know five to ten people but one of those people was miss richfield 1981 and she sat through my whole show in drag and she was just sweet and kind and loved it and i was like she was like you know just keep keep working and i was like that was a moment for me it was like just a wonderful moment to be able to have her there and to to watch that because i just i adore what she does so yeah and you know why i mean in provincetown there's just cape cod if nobody knows the reason those performers have those obviously they're incredible but they've also been varla's been performing there for 20 years so she becomes these people's annual tradition yeah and the shows are extremely high

quality but like if you want to be stripped of your dignity and stripped of any pride or entitlement go to provincetown yeah because even a 20-year veteran with amazing talent she's still on the fucking street barking like everybody else. Dina Martinez out there hanging on flyers. Yeah, that's, yeah, it's, it is not,

nobody's a star. Yeah, they are a star, but they're, yeah. My first summer, there are 55 shows. I barked 54 of them

a year after I did Drag Race. And I barked them all because A, I only sold out four times the first summer. And B, I was like, I know that these older drag queens

are going to hate me for being a TV drag queen and coming here and doing this. So I need them to see me barking every day so they're was like, I know that these older drag Queens are going to hate me for being a TV drag queen and coming here and doing this. So I need them to see me barking every day. So they're not like, fuck her. But again, I love that.

I love that work ethic. And I think that that, that means something. Cause it is sort of, you know, it's their town. It's what they've, they've built.

And remember the night that I, I think we saw you, Marilyn may a cabaret legend. Oh, my God. I went to that. Yes. Look her up, Katya. Marilyn May.

Her name is Marilyn May. Okay. She used to do these old Lincoln Mercury commercials back in the 70s, and then she's still, she's like 90-something, and she's still out there doing her cabaret show. Yeah. And who's in her audience? Bob Mackie. Yeah.

Wow. And Kasia Davis. Yes? Bob Mackie. Yeah. Wow. And Kasia Davis. I was there. She does like, she's like kind of like Ethel Merman, like a character voice singing. It was super good. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I have a couple more questions here. Kasia, take this any way you want. When did you know you were beautiful? I never did know I was beautiful. Honestly, I look back at old photos from when i was a kid

i was like wow i look pretty good um always had image issues with myself i've seen pictures when you post the young pictures i mean they're basically accidental thirst traps you're a very attractive young man. Well, you're very kind. Yeah, but it's so funny because I look back at that and I used to be like, wow, I used to think I was so fat or I used to think, you know, I grew up in a town where there was no such thing as being feminine or anything like that. So I was just a lot of self-loathing, to be honest. Well, it's funny you say the feminine stuff. I was talking to somebody the other day about how common it is for fans of Drag Race

to misuse the term trade in referring to the male contestants out of drag. And I was like, the only real trade of any season was Mrs. Kasha Davis. What's the real definition? Let the children know. Well, really, it's usually like an unclockably, like a straight acting guy who would trade sex for favors.

Like an actual straight guy, you know. And I'm usually like. Kasha did a lot of that on Drag Race. Yeah. Trading sexual favors. Yeah. I did. All the time. guy you know and i'm usually like um kasha did a lot of that on drag race yeah trading sexual favors yeah but you could like traditionally you know she could pass for a dude and then that's trade yeah sarge me and sarge oh sarge do you remember you know sarge of course yeah pepper wintergreen as the children know my now wintergreen, Wintergreen. Wintergreen. I would suck this shit right out of his asshole.

You're such an icon. I just love you, Kasha. Yeah, thank you, Kasha, so much. I'm so happy we've kept in touch all through the years. I'll tell you what,

you know what, I know that I'm annoying and I like to reach out and be like, I am. I am annoying. I know. I reach out to everybody

and I'm like how are you and I hope you're well and I mean it you know like I'm that hallmark card you are not annoying I love that you keep in touch with me I get texted me all the time and I'm very grateful well you're sweet and I know like because I'll text Bianca and she's like oh bitch leave me alone

but I know you know I just I care about people and I know how hard this business is. And I just, I'm always very impressed, you know, with people who work hard and you're both, you know, just, I love it. You're following your dreams and you're going for it. And yes, you may have opportunities, but you just keep on working. And I love that.

Well, when the world opens back up and you do like a little LA tour, I hope I can see you. Yeah. Oh yeah. And we're going to go, we're going to go tour, I hope I can see you. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And we're going to go crash Bianca's place in Palm Springs. Yeah. Oh, my God. We all need to go.

Take something off the walls. Yeah. Sit in her closet and get all the feathers that are not chicken feathers. Yeah. All the turbans you can carry. Kasia, where can everybody find you? Oh, my gosh. In the suburbs of Rochester, New York.

In my basement. No no uh you know on the www on insta snatched water face place and tiktok i don't understand why these kids are talking to a clock are you on tiktok kasha are you doing tiktok i am i i have i finally have i think i have 30 some thousand followers and i'm still not a check mark but i'm working on it kasha's on tiktok i gotta check you out i'm trying to get into it how do i get a check mark i want to get a check mark jerry got one i don't know who she paid i want my check check um well so we'll okay maybe so we can maybe do a TikTok trend thing. I'm always fascinated by those and how to do the worst transitions possible.

Yes. And so it's at Mrs. Kasha Davis on Twitter, right? Yep. And then on Instagram and so on and so forth. Oh, here you are, Kasha. Mrs. Kasha Davis. Mrs. Kasha Davis. There she is. Oh, here you are, Kasha. This is Kasha Davis. This is Kasha Davis. There she is.

Oh, look, you're standing here with some oranges. Wait a minute. Oh, look, she's kicking shoes. Kasha Davis is kicking the shoes. Oh, you better kick a fucking shoe. Yes! Work! Oh, this is great.

Come on. You look amazing. Yeah. You know, thanks. Wow. Do you make any of your costumes? Absolutely not. Yeah. You know, thanks. Do you make any of your costumes? Absolutely not. Everything.

I get them all from Davey. You've gotten some things from him. Thatch work. Davey. Oh, yes. He is amazing. Yeah. I love his stuff.

And so I get stuff there and then I get Casa Glam wigs and she's good to go. I was telling Katya I get my fingernails at Marshall's for $3.99. Marshall's? And she.99. Marshall's? And she's ready. Oh, yeah. The clearance section, honey. Check it out. I get mine on Amazon.

Oh, well. I wear a short square French tip. Don't be like me. I wear nails sometimes that are shorter than my real nail. I was going to say they're like so. Oh, there you go. Look. Dress to impress.

$3.99. That's nice, though. that's nice though they're irregular because they're all thumbs are they better than the you know it's bad when you have to buy toenails so you can do your own thumbs

I know that's when it's bad alright bye Kasia thank you Kasia thank you okay bye Okay, bye.