The Bechdel Cast - An Extremely Q&A Episode

Episode Date: January 5, 2023

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the patriarchy's effing vast start changing it with the bechdel cast hello bechdel cast listeners oh my god i almost just like for some reason i was gonna start singing the theme song i was like okay we did our countdown we're like one two three four two, three, four, five. On the Bechdel test. Oh, wow. What if we did that? That would be actually really fucked up if we did that. Well, look, my voice, as you might be able to tell, listeners, is it doesn't sound quite like myself. I'm a little sick at the moment.

Sick and sexy. What? Stop it. Sorry. You're going to report me to hr report me to jack o'brien i dare you um what i'm saying is i don't know how that will affect my amazing beautiful perfect singing voice being sick so it's true so we better not but what we are going to do today is answer some questions in a q a episode which we've done in the past it's kind of become a yearly tradition that we kick off the new year with a q a episode answering questions that our matrons have submitted so thank you to all the matrons who submitted a question.

Yeah. We're not going to have time to answer all of them because we're so popular and we got so many questions. Sorry, everybody. But we're going to answer a few of them. And that's how we kick off 2023. I love our Q&A episode. It's a time of traditions, you know. We released our Grace Freud episode on the Santa Clauses. I saw Grace at a show last night and we were really reflecting

on how we are going to be doing a fifth one of those episodes. It kind of like, I can't believe it's a bit bone chilling in a way. But a lot of traditions, you you know kind of like really hit you in the marrow of your existence sure well as we discussed on that episode we're not quite certain if this is a tradition or a curse so it's true i mean but i do love um being cursed by things it makes me happy it's reassuring at times that's true yeah it reminds you that you're alive it when you think about it doesn't it though wow doesn't it though aye yay yay all right um okay shall we uh get into it i was like i guess we don't really need to tell people what the test is today like it's this week honey look it up yeah plus we are going to be passing it so much in this by answering

these questions oh can we start with just like i just wouldn't know i'm like i just want to tell you something i was like how can i make this a part of the show i just wanted to tell you something tell me i saw a ska band last night a ska band i skanked it was awesome what it was so cool and it was feminism and you know why why the vast majority of the horn section were women oh no kidding we had a woman on the trombone we had a woman on the trumpet it was very thrilling i am now really like you know much like many things i feel like ska ska is going to make a comeback you can really quote me on that i saw a cool ska band last night and and people were like are you gonna skank or what and i was like is that the verb to wait what

does to skank mean oh we're having a moment um it's uh skank it's like the the dance no wow now i sound old it's like the dance that ska do um it's sort of just like really performative low kicking um but you can do you do it in kind of like a pit situation and it's just like a bunch of friendly kicking and you know the the time register is doing what it's doing okay so like the charlie brown dance isn't that how the peanuts characters i don't know how the scott community would feel about you saying that caitlin but it's i'm sorry i'm sure that's very reductive but it's not unlike that but it's more like intense it's pretty fast but it is just kind of like bad dancing but like when people are into it

you're like maybe this is good and i and i did that bit that i have with the egg where i eat the egg i'm familiar thank you so much listeners remain in the dark um but uh the the guy brought up bassist in the ska band so they're also allies to me doing the egg bit ska is feminist and i just wanted to let you know that okay i'm glad to hear it and then can i tell you something yeah of course i don't know if i'll follow through on this but i think in the new year i want to take a burlesque class and then get into burlesque that's so caitlin that's amazing what if you did burlesque class and then get into burlesque that's so kaylin that's amazing what if you did burlesque and i played the trombone we could duo yeah i could play for you that would be perfect you could do rose de whipicator

burlesque and then i would play my heart Will Go On on the trombone. Yes. That wouldn't be cursed. Wait, that's so amazing. Are there classes locally? I guess I would imagine there are. I think so, yeah, because I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know how to do burlesque. It's an art form.

So I have to learn. So if anyone has any tips on how to do burlesque. Or play the trombone. Let me know. If anyone's trying to get rid of a trombone let me know if anyone's trying to get rid of a trombone um i'm in the market for one i feel like if i have a trombone like around at some point i'm gonna have to pick it up you know like it's acquiring the trombone is half the battle and then finding a good trombone tutor oh if you're a local la trombonist

i don't know if i'll stick with this but it was just so inspiring yeah um see so many women in the ska band anyways okay q's and a's here we go starting with a question from alex hi alex asks uh y'all sometimes talk about how watching movies for the show changes your perspective on them along similar lines has doing the show changes your perspective on them. Along similar lines, has doing the show changed your perspective on films in general? If so, in what ways? I would say for me, the show has made me realize that so few movies are ones that i could ever vouch for in terms of does this hold up when looking at it through an intersectional feminist lens because i think the average nipple scale rating we give out is like one pull out of five maybe maybe two i would say maybe two because we've been covering like better movies as the show went on yeah we used to be strictly strictly a hater this used to be

strictly a hater zone but then we grew up but i still love movies i I still, I always have, I always will. I don't think anything's ever going to change that. So even though nearly every movie ever made is a disaster, at least when it comes to intersectional feminism, it's still a medium that I adore. So, and I don't know what that says about me but i'm always gonna love movies beautiful for me i i like it definitely has changed my perspective but even like a lot i feel like even throughout the course of this show it has like changed my perspective in like more nuanced ways as things went on because as as fun as it always will be to be like yeah this is just like not good this is like a hateful piece of media but as time goes on you know and and we cover movies that have a like more kind of shape like i guess it's been

interesting to now i feel like i approach like you there's like different ways to approach the movie and in some ways you can appreciate it more and in other ways like it is not as fun of a watch like I guess I used to watch movies on one setting but now I have like an appreciation for being able to like watch movies on more than one setting and and have that be okay you know for sure because it used to I feel like I used to be like, movie good or movie bad? And it's like, well, there's a lot of different ways. And, you know, everyone is their own person. Some movies are just like straight up fucking bad.

But I've enjoyed kind of like training myself to like seek out context. And like try to understand a little better. If a movie is like challenging me and not just like clearly shitty or clearly amazing yeah to kind of like seek out more context and figure out like what time was this coming out in like where was the writer and the filmmaker coming from and like how does that kind of and I feel like on our show that's kind of like skewed us in both directions towards a movie where there's like some movies we were giving the benefit of the doubt. And then we learn more about it. We're like, oh, no, we were being too nice. Never again.

And then other times the opposite. We were like, oh, OK, clearly this like missed. But the attempt was at least somewhat sincere or whatever. And I think it's also changed the way that I write, hopefully for the better. I think for the better. Same. And just like the way that I approach characters and it's nice to kind of have the Bechdel track

in your head to make sure that you're giving everyone the space they need in the story. Absolutely. Yeah. That's my answer, Alex. Yes. Thanks for asking it yes our next question comes from katherine hi katherine um a lot of movies lately are experimenting with subverting tired old movie tropes are y'all noticing any of these recent tropes of versions that are becoming

tropes of their own um one comes to mind right away, which is like a forced villain redemption arc. Don't like it. I mean, I don't even know how much that has to do with feminism or intersectionality. I just don't like it and I miss pushing the villain off of a cliff.

Which I know I've said before, but actually it does connect to the episode that came out last week on the Santa Clauses where I feel like it's become, I think especially in said before, but actually it does connect to the episode that came out last week on the Santa Clauses, where I feel like it's become, I think especially in Disney properties, but kind of across media in general, like it's become so normalized to be like, I think it started by coming from a sincere place.

I'm trying to think of like what big movie would have kicked this off, but like coming at a villain character with empathy it might have been even like wicked or something like that like coming at a classic villainous character with empathy and trying to understand things from their point of view i think that that is like a sincere thing at the beginning but now it's just like i mean in the santa claus's for example you just have like a guy who's straight up a bad guy the cal penn character is like a jeff bezos villain but the movie but the movie the whatever avatar length miniseries is like doing fucking olympic gymnastics to try to like redeem him because that's just like what you

do now and i feel like it can really like go the other way in a very uncomfortable way I don't know like there's movies where it super works and then there's other movies where it just feels like oh this is what we do now so I'm gonna write a truly despicable horrible character and then just have everyone forgive them at the end even if they are like Jeff Bezos human rights abuse like you're like but we don't need to forgive that guy. We just don't. There are some people we need to forgive in movies and I like that, but others not as much. Right.

I have complicated feelings about it because I think that it's important that depending on the person and their crimes, redemption. I feel like their crimes is a huge thing. Because it's like, you know. Right. Like, society would be a better place. You just reminded me of Saoirse Ronan saying, women in little. Society. my cold is affecting my cognitive functioning but what i'm trying to say is redemption is possible for some people and i like i't know, I want to like create space for people who,

you know, if they, if they do what they need to do to redeem themselves and their, and their crimes aren't so heinous that they could possibly deserve redemption. Like that's a message that I think should be put out into aforementioned society. especially in kids media because there's so many like tropes that villainize marginalize people in a way that is like absolutely fucked up and like needs to be re-examined i think it's just like that as a trope that also applies to like people who are fucking capitalisming the hell out like you're're just like, yeah, I struggle with it. Yeah, for sure. It's also kind of boring.

Another trope I've noticed is movies and TV and media in general. I mean, we have noticed more diverse casts in terms of race, gender, sexuality, things like that. But because so much media is still made by rich, powerful white men, it's clear that this inclusion only is happening because these guys are tired of people challenging them. So there's's there is like more diversity but a lot of it isn't good or meaningful or it's clear that they didn't consult anyone about these characters oftentimes these characters are very flat underdeveloped people who behave in ways that make no sense and they are just there to like fill a quota more or less yeah which is like like i feel like arguably worse like i mean it yeah i don't know like the yardstick there really but like it's that's diabolical to do to like hire talented

people and then be like but i'm just doing this so people leave me alone it's like no write a fucking character yeah do your job man for sure so yeah i also find that frustrating i think we may be uh the gender swap reboot may be on its uh on its dying legs i think we may really well and truly be done with it yes what I hope happens in addition to like what we always talk about um with more uh movies and I think in the time this show like you're just saying the time this show's existed there's been an increase in diverse storytelling and and it's been getting better but I also hope that it's like that makes way for more original storytelling, too. It feels like it's kind of on the upswing. We got our everything everywhere all at once.

Like we're chilling. It's good. But like, I hope that that kind of keeps moving. I also unrelated hope that that short movies come back. Oh, what if short movies came back? Oh my gosh. That would be so sick. That is a trope that every movie is three hours long now and I will allow it when it's RRR, which I'll talk about later.

But why is every other movie so long? It's complicated. Stop it. Even when movies I like are long, I'm like, come on. Yeah. I hope that the 87- minute movie makes a comeback wouldn't that be cool and then then you could go to double features without like your fucking organs rupturing it would be cool um oh without your intestines exploding callback to while you were sleeping. Oh.

Matreon, head over. Do you want to listen to Sandra Bullock's boss talking about his mother's organs exploding when she met his wife? What an amazing time for writing. Yeah, I think that I'm trying to think of other I think that those are maybe we'll think of more later. I know that there's a bunch that are kind of prevalent right now I think it like a lot of them boil down to people attempting more inclusion and diversity in storytelling and not getting it quite right because they are like coming from places of extreme privilege and aren't bothering to consult or like hand the reins to someone else who can tell those stories more yeah meaningfully so agree anyway um let's take a quick break and then come back for some more questions.

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of representing women and diverse voices on camera and do you have theories as to why or why not for example i think that the way streamers produce tv shows allow diverse creators to make their art and having longer character arcs in general seems to let women have more depth these points both have their negative counterpoint um and yeah i think you're already touching on a lot of why this is and i i don't watch a ton of tv i'm definitely more of a movie person, but the nature of TV just generally does allow for more in-depth character development. However, TV is still full of regressive tropes, maybe not as many today. I do think that a lot of media, again, is like trying to avoid that stuff um for better or worse and i also think that because tv is ongoing usually with multiple seasons it gives creators and writers a chance to

course correct yeah as the series goes on um based on responses from fans usually but it always comes down to who is behind the camera who's in the writer's room who's making these creative choices about characters yeah i have like a lot i have a lot of opinions on tv i love tv i've worked in tv for five years now wow brag thank you uh but mostly in animation but i i i feel like there's i agree with jacqueline there is more i think more diversity in general but then tv is also so fraught like i think that there's a lot of amazing shows that are uh from women and people of color and queer people there's there's simply just more of them than there are in movies but because of how streaming works it's so fraught and i feel like sometimes things just go away and it feels like sometimes it's like okay we'll give you one

season and like the same problems kind of exist where you know like, like a show by, you know, a notable white man, even if it kind of sucks for one season, they'll get a second season to find their voice and do all this stuff and blah, blah, blah. Where, like in movies, and we've talked about this a lot with, with marginalized directors of like, if you have one movie that doesn't do great financially or critically you could be kind of done and like that also bears out in tv quite a bit but i do feel like there's a lot to be excited about i feel like i you know absolute broken record being like abbott elementary but like for real abbott elementary like it's the fucking cool like it's the funniest show on TV. There's so many good shows out right now. But, okay, a show that sticks out to me is like the Gordita Chronicles, which is a really cute show.

It was really good. It was on HBO Max. It is a Latin focused show. And it's from Latin creators. But they were only given one season. And not only was the show canceled, it being pulled from hbo max because of all this evil corporate shit that's going on right now that makes it really really hard for because of how streaming works like it makes it so hard for like even though there's more opportunities i

think technically on paper in tv for um for marginalized creators than in movies it's way easier to like short change and disappear that same media like why isn't Rutherford Falls getting a third fucking season are you joking like it's ridiculous and it it makes me um pissed off obviously but there is so much to love about what's on tv right now and i really i don't know and that but but there's like oh sorry i'm like um she's still going there's also tropes within like prestige tv right now that's kind of exhausting too where it's like you know i know that a lot i mean i i watch some of them i'm succession fan number one i've got my waystar royco hat in the other room don't you forget it i had hot coffee this morning out of my we here for you mug um yeah like i but there are so many shows right now

about rich people being bad and but then the the underlying message is like capitalism bad but isn't it kind of sick to watch and like i think that's i don't know if that started with succession but like succession is so fucking good that i feel like that is a huge trend right now that kind of i feel like is like well it's technically anti-capitalist because we're making fun of rich people so we should be able to just do this and then we could still have all white rich traditionally hot cast and it's like well you can do that and sometimes i will watch it but like you know clocked i see it um so yeah i think that that is i think people should watch what we do in the shadows and p

valley and succession and that's what i have to say about it also stop making really boring true crime adaptations enough enough i should have played elizabeth holmes okay yeah i agree and that's my problem all right um sorry that was i hope that answered the question um also animation uh look at look at how animation is unionized and when i say that i mean it's not unionized a fun fact about animation writers they are not allowed in the wga why we don't know not that they're not allowed but like very few animated shows are i've been working in tv for five years and i'm not in the wga because i work in animation ridiculous so there's a lot of like evil shit uh afoot and it's good to know about um if you're a media consumer it's depressing to know about but it's interesting

yeah in a way especially if it doesn't affect your health insurance. So let's take another question. This one is from Deidre, but we got similar questions from several different matrons. Yes. Are there any movies that you absolutely will not cover even if they are requested by listeners? Whether it's because they are so bad treat marginalized people so poorly or wouldn't lead to much discussion i want to know which titles are in the bechdel cast trash bin oh i was thinking about this and i don't know if there's any movie that is completely off limits

to me there are some that i'm more wait well okay So I will maybe protest and be like, I don't want to cover Hereditary. Okay, that was... But I said the same thing about Midsommar and we covered that on the Matreon. Yeah, I've definitely covered movies I wasn't stoked about. But like, I think that usually makes for a pretty interesting episode. It's true. Yeah, I mean, there are definitely movies that i am not thrilled about or that i don't want to re-watch because they made me feel horrible the first time but

i think that that just means that yeah it'll inspire an interesting conversation and yeah and it's our duty to cover it then i actually i'm looking at the next question which feels should we just roll in this next question because i feel like it's relevant yeah the next question is from oliver is there still an embargo on covering master of disguise i would say i don't really want to cover that movie at this point because it's like i feel like that's an example i don't know like how to categorize i mean i guess it's a lot of comedy movies honestly that are aging poorly but like i think that people developed an ironic appreciation for that movie myself included back in the day sure but when you watch it on bechtel cast terms it's like so unforgivably bad that like i don't even want to really give it airtime

like it's like dana carvey appears in brownface like it's a fucked up movie and I think that there are certain things that like can provoke interesting discussions and then I feel like there's other movies that it's like oh we're just you know kind of digging this movie up from the grave to point out how bad it is which I feel like is like not a productive instinct yeah something like master of disguise which has no legacy to speak of it's not as though people are still like I ride or die for master of disguise I think it's important to have sure they're out there I think it's important to have conversations about movies that include really awful stuff like just you know horrible racism and homophobia and transphobia and and things like that but that

I think is more important to do for movies that still are like in the cultural zeitgeist the daily zeitgeist maybe it's yeah where it doesn't make sense to do that for a movie that no one remembers yeah such as master of disguise right i mean i guess i could be talked out of it because i know that like a lot of kids around our age saw that movie like and so it could be interesting to go back and be like look at the like horrific slop we were forced to consume and say thank you right um also the name pistachio disguise is funny so that's comedy but i mean i don't know that's an example of something that i would be i feel like we would there are movies that we've like had discussions before we've decided to cover it to be like is this like

useful is it funny like or what you know figuring out where those lines are okay pitch what if we do a matrion month it's master of disguise and the master or master and commander wow so many masters i can't think of any others but uh food for thought and I think outside of that the only movies that like if there's like movies that you're like why haven't they covered that and it seems like we would it's probably just because we know someone involved and like it I just don't want I just don't want to feel weird sure so if you're ever wondering that's likely if it's a more recent movie that's likely why yeah again we're very popular and we know so many people yes um the

madams of hollywood over here wow okay so our next question comes from katie asks i loved your discussion in the goodfellas episode of movies that you didn't care to watch because of the way people, i.e. men, talked to you about them. And I immediately thought of Fight Club, which I recently finally watched and hated, but would love to know what other movies fall into this category for you all. And what of those movies have you seen and think are definitely worth watching i have some thoughts okay this well this is a little this is tricky for me because of my already extremely dude bro taste in movies right which is like you don't need to i feel like you you've apologized for it in need to, I feel like you,

you've apologized for it in the past where it's like, you are who you are, Caitlin. That's, thank you so much. We love and accept you. Point being, I've already seen many of the movies that men will try to insist that I need

to see. And I'm like, bitch, I've already seen that. And I hate it. Cause there are many that I have, that I've seen and that I hate so deeply. We've covered some of them. But Leon the Professional is one that jumps to mind.

I hate it so much. Blade Runner. Yeah. I don't see the appeal. The movie Heat. Men are like, heat rocks. And I i'm like it's so boring though a lot of like i mean i think that there's like i don't know like goodfellas i enjoyed that discussion because we were like goodfellas heads and we also liked the godfather if you're not on the

fucking matreon and you've been yelling at us for years we liked both those damn movies we like goodfellas better yeah and we're right about that but that is the correct answer yes but yeah i feel like there's like i'm trying to think of like a a dude bro movie that i avoided for a long time that i'm on this list called mensgear.net amazing i think that is it is kind of an interesting thing where it's like Fight Club. I think we talked about this back in the day. I also like want to go back to that episode someday because I feel like there's things that like because we did it as a live show for some reason. Yeah. We couldn't get to everything.

And I feel like I had more nuanced thoughts, but was kind of self-editing because we have to do an entertaining live show on top of having a very complicated discussion which is why our live shows plugging our tour are now basically fun popcorn-y movies they're goofy movies such as a goofy movie um i can't really think of any i think that like honestly all my opinions are right so actually actually big Lebowski was a movie that I avoided for a long time. And I it's a classic. It's awesome. And I resent that I was kept away from it. Yeah. Yeah.

I wrote down that one. I think I mean, film bros love the Coen brothers. And I think and I'm a big fan as well. I like they're the best many, if not most, of their films. Big Lebowski probably being my favorite of them. I would say a couple Tarantino movies are also ones that I think are worth watching if you avoid Tarantino because of film bros telling you you gotta see their movies. Although, honestly, I think it's mostly just Kill Bill.

I really love kill bill yeah oh i love kill bill so much but others i i hate i hated the hateful eight i think that's a kind of common opinion though i think that that's like people are like that's his worst one yeah so i'm not like saying anything profound here although i watched and i was on a plane so i was i was the snake on the plane but i i re-watched inglorious bastards i hadn't seen it since high school i'm like that's a pretty good movie i really liked it that one i think holds up um on the other hand once upon a time in hollywood we didn't is one of the my least favorite movies i saw that year so i have to re-watch it uh but i did not like it when it came out um a couple others i would say are worth watching are speed and point

break and while they are both copaganda they are fun romps and keanu reeves is in them and he's a national treasure so he and national treasure, although no one kept us from, no one kept us from national treasure. And then my final one that we talked about in good fellas, because I just am like, I guess I've always been a fan of Martin Scorsese movies, but now I'm like, maybe this could be my personality for a while,

but Wolf of Wall Street, one of my favorite movies ever. I feel like such a good capitalism critique that's fun to watch and everyone's good in it um but but um you know there's a certain contingency that take away the wrong message and spoil it for people but i think it's um it's one of my faves same thing with american psycho which we discussed on that episode from a while back but yes yeah it's uh it's always a matter of like because some of these movies are satire or have biting commentary but often the wrong message is taken away or the satire isn't very clear to begin with so or it's

like poorly adapted which i think is like i don't remember if we really talked about that in the fight club episode but i think that we did yeah like it kind of like pings my brain for like how lolita's been adapted over the years where like sure in the source material i think the morality that the writer's trying to get across is very clear but the adaptations lack that and I feel like Fight Club kind of falls into that category in some ways yeah I don't have nuanced thoughts on it at the moment but um yeah I'd be interested to kind of explore that idea more thank you Katie you've opened my mind you've opened opened my heart to movies by men.

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Letting go and not trying to control everything, but also pushing oneself to be more resilient and tenacious and things of that sort. I feel like all of life is like that. All of life is about, yes, you need to take care of your physiology, you need to get your sleep at night, but it's also okay to get a bad night's sleep every once in a while. It's okay to not do every protocol. In fact, it's encouraged to not do every protocol. The expectation on us is not perfection, right? It's being able to toggle between these different states. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. We are back and I think it's time to answer some super fun questions. Yeah, fun ones.

First one's from Melanie. What episode is Gregden from? I've listened to every episode. I can't remember the origin. Well, Melanie, it's from YouTube.com. That's where it's from. We did not make it up. We did not make it up. We did not make it up.

It is from a YouTube video entitled, it's not even, if you search the word Gregnett, this video will come up, but the video is called, How is Prangent Formed? Wait, can we listen to it together right now it's so funny so what it is it's like a bunch of like frantically typed typo ridden um like answer websites like quora and yahoo answers and stuff like that it's just clearly like people who think that they are pregnant frantically asking a question on the internet and not checking their spelling and it's just the urgency of these typos it's very funny it's very yes so that's where Gregnant is from we first mention it on oh you know the episode on the rock with Miles Gray so it's because you and Miles knew about this video already and you were you were giggling about Gregnant and I was like what are you guys talking about because I hadn't seen the video at that point and so you were in

on the joke I was not but now hopefully everyone's in on the joke we encourage you to watch this YouTube video how is Prangent formed aka the gregnin video it's kind of an internet classic it's fun and and now full fucking circle miles and his partner they're gregnin so there you go wow i know and congratulations to them we I'm sorry. And congratulations to them. We should really send a onesie that says Greg. Yes, absolutely. Whatever comes out, that baby is Greg. Exactly.

Our next question comes from Forrest. I'm so excited I get to read this one. Okay. Forrest says, bellow read this one okay Forrest says bellow bellow Forrest bellow to you too Forrest who is the most Shrekian character in

Titanic and whompsed would the minions hitch their banana wagon to on the Titanic and then Forrest says, sorry if these questions have already been answered, which is comedy gold. I really hope that they're sincere in saying that

because it's not out of the question that this would have come up on this show. True. Well, it would have to be Bruce. Okay, so I think the minions would work for Bruce Ismay or the iceberg. Okay, now I think the minions would work for Bruce Ismay or the iceberg. Okay, now we're talking. Because, as we've discussed in past Minions episodes,

it's Minions canon to avoid historical monsters in historically recent memory that the minions were frozen. Well, not frozen, but they lived in the Arctic in a cave from most of the 19th century until the 1960s to avoid a lot of horrible things. They're like, well, the minions weren't involved with that because they were in the Arctic Circle at that time. They were busy with ice. So they get ice. They know ice.

Yeah. They ice each other, probably. Remember when we used to ice each other and drink Smirnoff ices? Aristotle. It was a simpler time. Wow. And that was also the Mike's Hard Lemonade era. It really was.

Wow. We've gone through so many phases of this show. We've grown up. Jamie. I know. We've really grown up together. I think it's nice. I'm drinking a

seltzer right now are you joking oh i'm drinking a chamomile jamie would never drink water oh my god well that's just because i'm sick but i was like i'm glad we are hydrating more healthfully but okay so i think i think the iceberg is an excellent answer. And let's go with that. Ismay is a coward and like the minions don't really vibe with that. They work for dinosaurs and grew. So I would say probably the iceberg is the right answer. As for Shrekian. Yeah.

Here's my thinking. Okay. I think Cal Hockley gives off some intense lord farquad vibes he is yes yes he is very farquad yes but also i think the unsinkable molly brown it feels very shrekian to me i feel like fabrizio has some Shrekian qualities due to his fake exaggerated accent. Yes. And how Shrekian is that? Mike Meyer is certainly not Scottish, you know.

Certainly not. So there's that. Yeah. And then also, I mean, Rose DeWippicator, Fiona, both kind of feisty redheads, you know. Whoa. So that is a bit Shrekian. Very Shrekian. I shrek and fiona of different classes rich girl poor guy shrek oh yeah exactly makes you think holy crap basically shrek is an

adaptation of titanic are they ever on a boat is there a dragon in Titanic? Is there a donkey in Titanic? Yes, yes, and yes. I'm trying to bear this out. Is Pinocchio in Titanic? I think there are enough. Yeah, I think Molly Brown definitely Shrek-ian energy. I think the more exaggerated Titanic characters could very easily be in Shrek. Which is many of them.

It's a very... Yeah. What's the... It's true. What TV network, their tagline is something like, we know characters or like. No, you're mixing up TBS and TNT, Caitlin. Characters welcome. That's TBS.

We know drama. That's TNT. Oh, my God. Oh, good grief. Okay. So I guess, I mean mean both apply to titanic titanic knows drama and characters are welcome on the titanic we're holding two truths here we've got tvs and tnt energy oh goodness it's titanic i bet i bet titanic is on tnt all the damn time um oh for sure

sure i would say that yeah i would say jack very Shrekian, but the dynamic between Jack and Rose has Shrek vibes to it. Right. I feel like Rose DeWitt Picator is in a tower of the mind. I mean. Cerebral tower. She talks about how she's trapped in a metaphorical prison. The whole love triangle, honestly, is Shrekian. Titanic is a very Shrekian movie is what we're concluding it is it is and the minions would work for the iceberg which is so

funny oh can i read a text i had a text exchange with my mom yesterday that made me laugh so much because it's the end of the year uh and my mom's a second grade teacher reminder listeners and i also minion pilled her so hard this year that she's like there's there's something going on in her head it's not quite right yeah she had never seen a minion movie took her to see rise of grew in orlando over the summer and she's a new woman she's got a new lease on life so all her kids now are and she knows that kevin's my fave so she had her kids draw me some christmas kevins here's one oh my gosh that's so good i know second graders know how to draw kevin he's their friend but then she texted me i told my kids this morning that you want to marry kevin

haha and jill for the record had not said but i replied i do he's a compassionate leader and she said exactly we're minion pilled so hard i love it and her one of her students got her a kevin chia pet but the oh wait do they have they have like little strands of hair but they're not not hippie Kevin. You can grow a whole plant head. Okay. We're going to have to post some of these photos to the Instagram. It's so the minions, you know, happy holidays to them. Well, speaking of the minions, our next question.

Oh, yeah. That does. Take it away, Jamie. Oh, yeah. That does get to the next question. Take it away, Jamie. Oh, this is a question from Kelly. Favorite things you watched in 2022? Movies, TV, docs, whatever. Also least favorite. Everything Everywhere is probably my favorite movie of the year, I would say.

Same. But you got Rise of Gru coming in hot right behind it. That's what I'm saying. I saw Everything Everywhere three times in theaters. I saw Gru two times in theaters, but in two states, which I feel like isn't nothing. That's effort. It took. You got to put an effort for that.

And I saw it. Wait, I saw it at both city walks. That's fucked up in Los Angeles and in Orlando. No kidding. I go to the Minions house to watch that damn movie. Yeah, those are my top two. Nice. That's it.

I will add to that RRR. Oh, yes. Which kind of going back to the very first question we answered as far as like perspective on film in general if that has changed um because the movie rrr while a flawless masterpiece um if we were to cover it on the bechtel cast oh might not do super well the conversation about you know the characterization of women in the movie um would be it's it's laughable it's not very good um and yet i love the movie so so much yeah it's complicated the point being sometimes i just have to like take off my bechdel goggles and i can still enjoy a movie sometimes i put them back on you know it's all

about and honestly like we've talked about this before but if we're just like going to the movies to watch a movie we don't necessarily at least i don't want to speak for you jamie but i don't necessarily have my bechdel goggles on or not in the same way that i would when i'm like unless it's like egregious like if it's egregious then exactly you can't not but yeah no i i agree sometimes you just i think honestly the most this is fucked not one of my favorite movies of the year by a long shot but one of my favorite pieces of media this year is the harry styles quote i feel like it's so useful it's the movie that feels like like a movie and sometimes and now to transition into n Kidman. And we need that.

All of us. All of us. That indescribable feeling we get when the lights begin to dim and we go somewhere. Oh, damn. I did it again. It's OK. I think I'm going to know the whole thing. Other movies I really liked this year.

Turning Red and Prey. Both. Yes. Bangers. Both have seen them multiple times. The Woman King. I loved. I still haven't seen't seen it oh you got to see The Woman King another one of my favorites was Marcel the Shell with Shoes On I still haven't seen it I gotta say cute little movie at the time of this recording we have yet to see Puss in Boots but I think it's going to be one of my favorite movies of the year and talk about

a Shrekian movie I mean harder to get Shrekian than that unless it's Shrek 5 which I can't fucking wait for I'm looking at my AMC history so a documentary I really loved this year and I think it will I think it's like made the Oscars

shortlist and stuff but it made me cry we talked about it on the Patreon because there was a guy behind me who was really rude about it. But I was crying, crying, crying. Fire of love. Right. About two volcanologists who are married. And spoiler alert, they tell you in the trailer they die in a volcano. But it's a really beautiful story.

And I would recommend watching it. I saw Nope twice. I had a good time at nope and then also this is not a movie from this year but I saw E.T. in IMAX this year and it was I was crying so much it's such a I feel like I I didn't really have I think this is like a microgenerational thing too but like I didn't have a ton of excitement and love for E.T. as a kid but watching it as an adult oh boy I really love it and it it delivered I also enjoyed Crimes of the Future because I love body horror um oh I didn't see that one but every time I hear the title of

that movie I'm reminded of another movie called needle in a time stack do you remember this oh yes we had a hell of a time with needle in a time stack did that movie come out do we know I think so but it was a blip because I and and speaking of amazing incredible movies that are awesome and perfect moonfall was one of my favorite movies of last year. Not because it's good, because it wasn't. But if you just want to watch a I Frankenstein level terrible movie, Moonfall is one to watch.

You know what I liked? I liked Scream 5. I liked 5 Cream. I thought that was a fun one. I'm trying to like spread the love around genres. Sure. Barbarian I thought was pretty fun. We had some notes for it,

but I thought Barbarian was a really well-done movie. Saw it twice. Enjoyed Bodies, Bodies, Bodies. I wasn't wild about X, but I did enjoy Pearl a lot okay sure i didn't see either of them i had a i had a fun time i will see the third one as far as tv uh we mentioned a few shows that rock and roll abbott elementary rutherford falls also reservation dogs i'll add to that list one of my favorite shows that came out i think this

year is we are lady parts on i still haven't watched it people love that show it's so good i highly recommend everyone check out we are lady parts it's about a group of women in the uk all muslim women who are in a punk band nice and. And it's awesome. I've got to watch it. I've been enjoying the sex lives of college girls. Oh, I gotta watch that. That's a fun one. I haven't been I'm kind of behind on TV right now, honestly. But there was one I mean, I always stay up on what we do in the shadows. Always a classic. Always delivers. And, you know, just for no reason, like, there's some really good TV shows coming out next year.

And I'm just going to throw out a couple titles. The fourth season of Star Trek Lower Decks is supposed to be, like, really amazing. Interesting. And it's actually a really good show. And if you are not into Star Trek or like don't have a working knowledge and you're nervous about getting into the Star Trek expanded universe. Yeah. It's kind of a great show to start with. It's an adult animated comedy. But I guess that that's all I can really say about it.

But I just like the first few seasons are good. But I just like think that the fourth season something's going to change. It's going to be really special. I wonder if it's because like a writer joins the writer's room and really like elevates the show shakes things like a particular writer i would not say that i did that but i had a really good time working on that show you should watch it and teenage euthanasia yes i just like love that room so much and it's created and written by majority women and it's so fun and you'll have you'll have a great time it's on i think it's on hbo max because it's an adult swim show wow as far as my least favorite things of this year no offense to thor love and thunder but i

thought that was a turd i didn't see it I didn't have fun at any Marvel movies this year I was like I I'm excited for the new Ant-Man movie I am genuinely excited for that same because Michelle Pfeiffer's in it yeah like the cast rocks and Jeff Loveness wrote the movie and he's so funny and I'm like I believe in the new Ant-Man movie I didn't have a great year with Marvel movies this year I love like Sam Raimi directed the new Ant-Man movie. I didn't have a great year with Marvel movies this year. I love, like, Sam Raimi directed the best movie of all time, Spider-Man 2. But Doctor Strange, just like, I was confused. I was tired.

I was like, God, this is a lot of space rocks. Also, Jurassic World, Dominions. If they had just had the courage to do that. Yeah. Yeah. I was talking to Sarah Marshall was like, it just like never ceases to amaze me that the last Jurassic Park movie is mainly about locusts and not dinosaurs.

Wild. I didn't see it. It was such a turd. Oh, yeah. So those are the ones at the bottom of my list. I saw Morbius as a joke it wasn't worth it jared leto's like jared leto's genuinely a criminal he's a bad person and then a movie i

was let down by from a director i like and i'm excited for his nosferatu but i didn't i didn't like the north man it didn't do anything for me me either i thought it was too violent whoa mom that wasn't my i just thought it was like boring and like robert eggers is like not a boring filmmaker so i was just kind of like he made the vivitch he made the vivitch he made the lighthouse he makes like wild movies so i don't know i and i enjoyed banshees of in a sharon i think i think i'll see it a second time banshees of ed sheeran yeah yeah that was one of the ones i liked it made me want to go back to ireland to visit my family oh my god wait i have a wild as we're winding down this episode i have the weirdest story i don't know if I told you. Did I tell you about the guy I met at the airport in Alaska who was like, we're related?

No. So I was in the airport and I got called up to the desk for some seating thing. So they said my full name and I was walking back and then it was like an Irish guy. And he was like, I can't do an Irish accent. I was about to go Australian. He was like, is your last name Loftus? I was like, yeah. And he's like, my last name's Loftus and he's Irish. And then, you know, I'm mostly Irish. And I was like, oh, that's so wild. And he's like, you know, 15 years older than me. And I was like, oh, we're just having a conversation here. He's telling me about himself.

I'm telling him about myself. The people at the desk, the Delta desk, they're loving it. They're like, this is so interesting. I'm like, is this is actually awesome and he's like oh we should like he's he said like loftus is a rare last name which i have since checked i don't think that's actually true um but i was like he's from ireland i believe him which is a weird instinct also but i was just like he's like we might be distantly related like give me your number and like I will blah blah blah blah blah and then anyways get on the plane he immediately starts texting me so much and then makes a joke about like what if we had sex and I was like never give a man your phone number Jamie wait. Wait, what was the text I received?

And now, like, I haven't blocked his number because I love to choose violence. But he was going to Ireland. And, like, I talked to my dad for a couple, like, literally two minutes. And he's like, yeah, we're definitely not related to that guy. But glad you enjoyed the airport. So he was like, hey, we're probably related.

Should we have sex? Literally, that is exactly what he was like. Because, OK, wait. Oh, no. I'm just going to read the text. This is a few texts down. It starts very friendly. He's like, so cool to meet you, blah, blah, blah.

I was like, yeah, that was really awesome. Enjoy the flight. And he's like, there's a seat next to me. And I didn't reply. But then he said, you have the culture in you. You are female version of me, less facial hair. And I was like, texts are getting weird. But I reply, just a little, haha.

The Loftus brand is strong, trying to keep things friendly. He replies, would make an awkward morning after waking up in same bed then asking names dot dot dot incest lol he immediately replies lol again he replies again how cool to meet you i'm so happy it's like okay i bet his name isn't even loftus he just like goes up to people and like uses that as a pickup line and then i don't it's like an excuse to get numbers from women oh i don't know i mean he has been whatsapp messaging me pictures of horses in ireland for weeks it's just like i it's the kind of thing where it's like it's not that, that joke was, I should have blocked him.

Yeah. But I am choosing violence. I'm like, I wonder how many pictures of horses I'm going to get. And then if there's a dick pic, then I'll block him. Okay. I wouldn't recommend this approach for literally anyone else. Or really myself. But when I saw Banshees, I was like, hmm, Banshees of Inchared.

Which is like, it isn't. But I was like, hmm, Banshees of Inchared. Which is like, it isn't. But I was like, Irish accent. Anyways, it made me want to visit Ireland. And then meeting that guy made me not want to visit Ireland. So I kind of have been on this whole challenging journey with my homeland. What a roller coaster. I know. The final question a lot of people wanted to know was what movies are we most

excited for coming out in 2023 barbie barbie and a lot of people mentioned barbie um my most anticipated is spider-man across the spider-verse yes yes very excited for that cocaine bear is right there at the top of my list elizabeth banks is about to sweep the oscars i'm excited for the new magic mike magic mic sauce dance yes i am excited for ant man that'll be fun uh-huh um mad max the wasteland i believe is slated to come out in 2023 oh wow i didn't excited for that uh cocaine bear oh speaking of scary bears not paddington i don't know when paddington 3 is coming out and it it better not be before i get cast in it but winnie the pooh blood and honey i'm pretty excited for i'm not excited for that i can't even really

describe why my body rejects that concept i'm seeing it you're like fuck you i'm seeing it megan we have to oh my god we will be seeing megan we're gonna start the year strong with megan i feel like that's actually a strong um matrion contender like yeah i want to see wanka only because i think it's going to be horrible. What if Wonka is good? But like, there's no way. But what if it's good? Are we going to have to cover Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory when that comes out? Perhaps.

Perhaps we will. And I'm excited for the new Scream because I'm just like, I'm back. I'm back. I'm in. Oh, yeah. Six. Six cream. Six cream.

Yeah, they should just stylize it. There was five cream and now there's six cream. And now let's add another cream on the. They should just style it. There was five cream and now there's six cream. And now let's add another cream on the pile while we're at it. I think those are the ones that I'm generally excited for, but I am, I've really, I'm, I'm Barbie pelt.

I'm really excited for, did you see the teaser trailer? I don't actually think I've seen it yet. I've seen a lot of the like onset photos, the teaser trailer. I, I like need to watch it again but i'm like oh she's she's doing something here it's not just barbie and ken she's doing what is she up to

and then you're just like you know sersha ronan women um women women so i am i'm really interested to see that i'm sure there's others There's like independent releases that I am. 80 for Brady, obviously. Oh, my God. Yes. The horny Jane Fonda movie. Yes, I will. I will see that.

Obviously, I always see the horny. I got kicked. I got kicked out of book club. I got fucked up at book club and I was cheering too much. The only time I've ever been kicked out of a movie theater. Yeah, you were there. You were not comfortable. Oh, goodness. It's the only time i've ever been kicked out of a movie yeah you were there you were not comfortable um it's a simpler time yeah well so that concludes our q a episode for this year

thank you listeners for all your support and i would hey hey hey now hey you asked us questions i'd like to ask you a question uh-huh which is what would you like to hear from us what movies oh yeah that we haven't already covered would you like us to cover what suggestions might you have for guests that you'd like us to have on the show things like that uh yes so we'll we can link to the request form in the description we're always looking to uh to hear from you we love you and um i'm really looking forward to 2023 we have some we have some fun plans in store for you this year uh we're starting the year with our tour um so if you made it to the end of the episode and you live on the West Coast, we've still got tickets available in dwindling numbers, I might add.

Yes. In Los Angeles on January 26th, we're doing a Goofy movie. Then we're going up to San Francisco on February 1st to do George of the Jungle. And then we're going up to Portland, Oregon on the 2nd doing two shows. One is The goonies with sarah marshall the second is a mystery show the mystery guest yeah and then february 5th we're going to be up in seattle also doing the goonies so you're gonna want to go babe you're gonna want to go and you can find tickets to those shows on our link tree which is linked on our twitter and instagram you can follow us those

places as well you can also subscribe to our patreon aka matreon it gets you two bonus episodes every single month plus access to the back catalog and it's january and that means only one thing the pinocchio wars oh god covering look the two pinocchios from 2022 buckle the fuck in it's gonna be bloody it's gonna be brutal caitlin and my friendship might fall apart might not survive because what you don't know is that Caitlin and I have both been drafted and not to the same side of the war. Wow. Yeah. My goodness.

Yeah. So stay tuned. It's a bit of RRR energy. Yeah, we're enemies in this war, but our friendship may win the day. Oh my gosh. And if you haven't seen RRR, you got to watch it. But anyway, thank you for listening. And we'll be back next week with our regularly scheduled programming.

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