The Bechdel Cast - The Sandlot with Natalie Palamides

Episode Date: April 27, 2017

Jamie and Caitlin and guest Natalie Palamides score a home run with an episode about The Sandlot. Producer Aristotle aka THE BEAST is there too!(This episode contains spoilers)Follow @natdogkatdog on Twitter! While you're there, you should also follow @BechdelCast, @caitlindurante and @hamburgerphone   Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands Or do they have individualism? The patriarchy's effin' vast Start changing it with the Bechdel cast Hi, welcome to the Bechdel cast. My name's Jamie. My name's Caitlin. And this is our movie podcast about the girls.

The girls. This one's for the girls. The women. We're not girls, we're women. Oh, sorry. Neither is anyone. There's no girls. This one's for the girls. The women. We're not girls. We're women. Oh, sorry. And neither is anyone. There's no girls. We are born, grown up adult women. A woman child.

Just like Boss Baby. Who's that movie for? Just like the Boss Baby. What is it? I don't know. You know, who is it for? I'm eating a cheeseburger today. You're eating a cheeseburger in lieu of a Mike's Hard Lemonade.

Yeah, I'm making some changes in my life. Follow your heart. It's like a tangential change, but it's a change. A change is a change. Our podcast is about the portrayal of women in film. It's inspired by the Bechdel test. It's a test that requires that two women in a movie, they have to talk to each other. And it has to be about something other than a man.

We prefer they have names, but sometimes we'll give them a pass. Hey, there's that, I didn't get to see it, it's gone now, but Fun Home was in town. It's connected to the Bechdel test because it's based on a graphic novel by Alison Bechdel. Oh, yes.

It's a musical version of that. Oh, I didn't know that it was a musical. Well, I want to ask our guest about it because she got to see it. Our guest today, she is Buttercup on Powerpuff Girls. She is in everything that UCB does ever. Natalie Palomides. Hey, guys. How's it going?

Thanks so much for having me. Yeah, of course. Thanks for being here. Did you love Fun Home? Oh, my God. I freaking love Fun Home. I cried the last 20 minutes of it. Thanks for being here. Did you love Fun Home? Oh, my God. I freaking love Fun Home. I cried the last 20 minutes of it. It's just so moving.

It's really funny. The music's really great and powerful. It gives you goosebumps. It's just a good story. It's the true story about Alison Bechdel's life and her relationship with her father, who was closeted. And then it's her story about coming out as well and how they deal with that together. But it's just, oh, my God.

It's, wow. I've listened to the album and I've read the book, but I haven't gotten to see it yet. Oh, you should see it if you can. Yeah. I still haven't finished the one Alison Bechdel book I have. Which one? Bot?

I wish I remember what it was called. It's not. Is Your Mama a Llama? Because that's a different book. Wait, what? But it sounds like it. Wait a second. I don't think that she wrote Your Mama is a Llama. No, she definitely did not.

But that's what the title of this book reminds me of. I went to, there was like a book sale at the library. And I got a bunch of kids books with like illustrations that I liked. And there's one called Runaway Pickle, and it's about a pickle that runs away. Recommendation of the cast. I would like to formally endorse a book I'm pretty sure is called Runaway Pickle. Well, hey, you out there, if you want to read that book, you should. You should also read Are You My Mother?, which is the name of the Alison Bechdel book,

not Is Your Mama a Llama? Caitlin, I'm going to really try to lean in on the mouth noises of me eating this cheeseburger because I know you're going to edit this later and I just want to feel close to you. Oh, thank you. All right. So Aristotle's really disgusted because he too can hear everyone. I'm sorry. He's also probably upset that you're eating beef in his presence because Aristotle's a dirty, dirty vegan. I'm sorry for triggering everyone with my bad eating habits,

but it is what it is. Hey, your body, your choice. Let's talk about the— What a beautiful way to learn that lesson, by actively polluting your body. Yeah. Yeah. The movie we're talking about today that you have brought us, Natalie, is The Sandlot.

Yes. It's a classic, a modern classic, I think. Yeah. So when did you first see this movie? What's your relationship to this movie? I saw the movie when I was maybe seven or eight years old. And, oh, my gosh. I mean, the nostalgia that I experience when i'm watching it is is powerful

you know it's just it reminds me of fourth of july and like being outside and playing baseball even though i'm not a boy i relate to it just because like my cousins even my girl cousins would all like play sandlot like i would be squints paladororis because my last name is palomitas oh my god and i had like really big glasses too just like squints so i really related to squints yeah you know even though he wasn't isn't my same gender i thought just me and him should get married yeah so you or we're the same person yeah yeah either way that could be a good match. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you've probably seen this movie. Have you seen it a bunch of times? I watch it every year on Fourth of July without fail.

Usually I'm drunk. We come home. I've been drinking all day. And then we watch The Sandlot. That's so nice. Yeah. One year I even watched it by myself because I was away from my family. I still got drunk and watched it myself.

Terrific. I don't know if that's sad. Where did you grow up? Pittsburgh, outside of Pittsburgh. No way. I'm from western Pennsylvania. But like rural. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's pretty rural where I grew up.

It's like an hour outside the city. Oh, cool. Yeah. We'll talk about that later. Yeah. We talk a lot about Pennsylvania and Massachusetts. Yeah, we do. Allison Bechtel's from Pennsylvania.

Oh, no kidding. I can see all of Pennsylvania. Yeah, that's one of the songs. We should listen to that soundtrack in a locked room and just release all your toxins. I'd love to. But yeah, so it brings on a lot of nostalgia. The movie makes me think about family barbecues and just playing baseball with my family. And when I was a kid, being outside all day, those are the kind of memories that it evokes. Gotcha.

Yeah. Cool. I saw this movie for the first time, I think probably in college, which is when I saw most of the movies I've seen. But I told this story on an earlier episode of the podcast. But I was at a friend's house, like a little pool party. And all the boys were like, hey, let's go inside and watch The Sandlot. And then they put like the VHS tape in the VCR. And it was a porn movie.

Oh, yeah. And not The Sandlot. It wasn't porn version of the Sandlot? No, it was just a woman being fisted with a baseball. With a

Babe sign baseball. It was Wendy Peppercorn getting fisted with a baseball. But here's the thing. Because I did not know what The Sandlot was at the time. I somehow, like, when it came out, I missed it. I don't know. I just, like, wasn't the gender or the demographic that that movie was intended for. I also grew up under a rock.

So I didn't know that I wasn't watching The Sandlot when we were watching. I was like, oh, The Sandlot is a porn movie, I guess. What? It's a beautiful film about being a kid and making friends it wasn't until years later that i discovered what the sandlot actually was fun new nickname for your vagina the sandlot the sandlot welcome to the sandlot i had a very scary dream the other night i used to have like when i was little the first movie i ever saw to the point where I don't even remember seeing it, but it, like, seeped into my consciousness, was Aladdin. And I used to be so scared of the cave that would rise out of the sand. The cave of wonders.

Yeah. And there was, I still have dreams about the cave. And I used to have, like, this, I used to sleepwalk a lot when I was a little kid and there was like this short flight of stairs that I fell down multiple times because I like was having a dream that the cave was at the bottom of the stairs and I would just launch

myself into what was not the cave at all it was thankfully a soft carpet at the bottom but still at the bottom of stairs. Lots of rug burn. I had the hots for Jafar. Really?

That's my most memorable thing from Aladdin. He was my first crush. A little twisty beard kind of guy? Yeah, I guess I like the bad boys. I just want to set the record straight and say that my nickname for my vagina is box office flop.

Oh, I love that. But we can call it the Sandlot 2. Oh, the Sandlot 2? Returned to the Sandlot? Yes. No. Oh, my gosh. Terrible.

I can't believe they even made that. They ruined it. Oh, I didn't see the sequel. Was that a direct-to-video? Yeah. Yeah. Direct-to-video. Unbelievable.

I didn't see it. When did you see The Sandlot for the first time, Jamie? I remember seeing it where my oldest cousin, Aaron, used to love that movie. He was a couple years older than me, and so we all would watch it together in the den when we were little. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It was nice.

I didn't it wasn't like one of my favorite, favorite movies, but it like kind of the same as you just reminded me of hanging out with my cousins when I was little and I wasn't I wasn't a baseball or sports girl in general. Like some of my cousins would split off and play the Sandlot and reenact that movie. Really? Yeah. And then in the backyard, me and my cousin Tammy would try to reenact the Lindsay Lohan version of the Pear Trap. Yeah.

That was like what we would do. So the movie. Let's talk about the. Let's start with the characters. The main boy characters are Scotty. He's like the protagonist who's the loser the story sort of unfolds through his point of view and then his best friend benny rodriguez he's like the cool kid who's super good it's a change to You're just like, oh. I know.

He's so much taller. Yeah. I think I might still sort of have a crush on him. I remember I had a, like, he was such a cutie pie. Yeah, he's a good looking young kid who is not age appropriate for us. Okay. Then we got Squints, like you mentioned. Yeah, he was my crush. Like I said. And then he's a like you mentioned. Yeah, he was my crush, Squints, like I said.

He's a little underdog. Timmy and Tommy, the brothers. And then Yaya is the little short kid. Then we got Ham and Kenny DeNunez and Bertram. Those are the nine. Dude, I don't even remember Bertram. He's the one with the glasses. Oh, I remember him now. Yeah, I lost track of a few of them.

Some of them blended together. He brings the cha, Bertram. Yes, and then they all chew it and throw it all over themselves. So that's our main boys. And then as far as the women go... Yikes, where are they? Back dollar, back dollar they? Back dollar. Back dollar.

Scotty's mom. Scotty's mom played by Karen Allen, who is never even named. She's just mom. And then you've got Wendy Peffercorn. Hey, wait, should I do the recap? Do the recap. I guess what little semblance of a story

it has. Whoa. Goes like this. Coming in hot. Coming in hot. Natalie's going to pass out. Such a good movie. Well, okay.

So it's about these nine boys who play baseball every day of this summer. I think it's set in 1962. And we focus on Scotty who like moves to the neighborhood and he's like, I'm bad. Scotty Smalls. I'm bad's set in 1962. We focus on Scotty, who moves to the neighborhood, and he's like, I'm bad. Scotty Smalls. Dennis Leary's my dad. He's like, I want to play baseball, but I'm not good at it.

But I want to make friends, but they're all good at baseball, and I don't know how. Oh, we can do little boy voices this whole episode. Oh, man. Oh, man. And then he approaches these boys who are playing at this place called the Sandlot, which is this, like, magical place where boys play baseball every day. And then he's really bad, but they sort of accept him whenever he shows that he can, like, finally catch a ball.

And then they play every day. And then there's this beast who lives in a backyard at the neighboring house. And they're like, don't go near the beast. We lose all these baseballs. Oh, no. It's scary. Where's the baseballs? There's so many baseballs over the fence by the beast's doghouse.

So many baseballs. Or the beast's house. So one day they are playing. And by this halfway through the movie and the inciting incident doesn't really happen until then. Anyway, they bust a ball open. Benny, because he's so good at baseball. He's like, I'm going to mash this ball up. And they ruined this baseball.

And Scotty's like, hey, I got a baseball at my house. I'm going to let you guys use it. Scotty's so eager to please. Little does he know it was signed by Babe Ruth, who he doesn't know who that is. Oh, yeah. Baby Ruth. That was a fun, yeah, like, who is she? And then they lose it and the Beast gets it.

So they have to, like, orchestrate this whole rescue mission. Is that really halfway through the movie? Pretty much, yeah. It's a long way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they're building their friendship and everything and establishing what it's like to be a kid. Yeah, it does take a while for things to actually start happening. But some great moments come before, like the s'more and everything.

Yeah, s'mores. And then they rescue this ball, but not before the beast gets out. And he's a big dog and he chases them through the neighborhood. And there's a cake and it falls on everyone. And then... And Benny has PF flyers. Right. And he tries to make them run faster, jump higher.

And a ghost, Babe Ruth's ghost visits Benny at his house. And gives him a pep talk. Yeah. And I have the same shoes as Benny, just FYI. Very nice. Babe Ruth's ghost visits Benny at his house in a dream. And I have the same shoes as Benny, just FYI. Very nice. Sandlot edition, PF flyers. And then they discover that the old man who lives in the house that the Beast is at is James Earl Jones. Yeah, James Earl Jones, former Yankees baseball player who knew Babe Ruth.

I remind me that I caught a fly ball once, but it was like with my back brace when I was 12. I would have gotten hit and like maybe hurt, but it hit. I was leaning over. I was reading a magazine feature about Josh Hartnett. Of course. And the fly ball at the baseball game that we had gone to as a school field trip, like fell in between the seat and my back brace so that it just I was like what was that and it was a flyball at a Providence

White Sox game it was good I still have it in my house oh good job thank you is it in your trophy room it's in my trophy room yeah I have a lot ofies. They're all heads of the men you've decapitated? Yeah, it's a stinky little room. Yeah, that's okay. But I'm proud of it. Cool. So that's mostly the story. They, like, talk to James Earl Jones, and he's like, yeah, here's a new ball. It has all the signatures from the 1927 Yankees.

I like how James Earl Jones blackmails them into being his friend. I thought that was really nice. And also, just, like, that's such a nice scene, too, where he's like, please be his friend. I thought that was really nice. And also just like that's such a nice scene too where he's like, please be my friend. Yeah, because he's basically like the Boo Radley of the community. Yeah, oh yeah, I didn't even think of that. And then he turns out to be a nice guy.

Yeah. But I had a lot of questions when I watched it this time. I never questioned the world that the Sandlot takes place in. But it's like, so first of all, no women live in this town. Right. Except for Wendy Peppercorn. Except for Wendy Peppercorn. But in regards to James Earl Jones, I have so many questions.

Where did his life go wrong besides being blind? Did he never get a second wind? He lost his career. He never had a backup plan, especially one that involves him being blind. Right. I don't know, but he lives in that little metal shack. I was just like, what happened?

Doesn't Major League Baseball give you workman's comp when you go blind? We'll have to make some calls. He might have squandered all his baseball cash and then, you know. Also, like, he's blind living on his own. Imagine taking care of a house by yourself. That's true.

Got a dog. Dogs probably chew and everything. He's not even a seeing eye dog. Yeah, exactly. No, he's not. What a waste of a dog. She's just a big scary dog. Yeah.

Anyway, as we mentioned, there are almost no women except for Scotty's mom and Wendy Peffercorn, who... They don't talk to each other. Yeah, yeah. No, there are, like, women... Sometimes I'm like, hey, there's one. Like, when the boys are thrown out of the pool, there's a mom who looks at them like... What are you doing? Yeah, for listeners of the cast, I just made an O shape with my mouth to indicate shock. In fairness, though, like, are there, like, any boys in, like, you know, the Babysitter's Club?

True. Babysitter's Club for sure passes the Bechdel test. Yeah, but, like, this is kind of like the dude version of, like, it is like a boys club kind of movie. But a lot of girls watched it. Yeah, I don't remember, like, feeling weird about that. Yeah yeah i don't remember like feeling weird about that it's yeah i don't remember feeling weird either it's weird because it's like it's a story where women are absent but they don't really with the exception of wendy pfefferkorn um or is that how you say i was imagining a pf pfe no it's pepper corn no yeah i'm 100 but they um it's not really that condescending to women it's just a world that women don't really

exist in disagree entirely well there's the you play a ball like a girl right right there's a number of instances so i i made note of this i think that it's horribly condescending to women well and yeah i'm taking a strong stance on this episode you guys i love it there's a scene where this other group of like baseball boys roll up and they're sort of like insult battling they're roasting each other if you will it's a roast it's a rose battle of sorts oh i see your sister out in left field. She's naked, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's the game. Before they play the game against each other,

Ham and this other kid from this other team are like hurling insults at each other. And they're going back and forth and it keeps heightening because they're like, you're dumb. You're a dork. You are a fart smeller. You are a toe jam licker, like stuff like that. And then Ham goes, oh yeah? Well, you play like a girl. And then everyone goes, as if that's the worst insult. And you play all those tampon commercials.

It's like, I don't play like a girl. I'm strong. I paused it and I was like, what is it? Is it the Always Company that co-opted that? Anyways. Very possible. Okay. Well, a girl plays baseball in that commercial.

Oh, good. I'm so glad we get that representation in there. So that's one example of a few different instances where they use women as like the butt of a joke or. And when I was a kid, I wasn't insulted by that at all i thought it was hilarious i'm sure yeah what's wrong with me they another one is when they're debating whether or not to let like scotty join the team um benny is like arguing for him and he's like well we only have eight people he makes nine and then someone i think it might be yeah yeah or squints or someone goes,

well, so would my sister, but I didn't bring her as if like, Oh, why would we like, what a horrible choice that would have been. And then there's another scene where it's super hot outside and they're all like,

it's too hot to play. And Benny's like, come on guys, let's do it. And they're like, no. And he's like, all right,

well, anyone who wants to be a can't hack it, panty waist, who wears their mama's bra. And they're all like, yeah, we're fine with that. But's like, all right, well, anyone who wants to be a can't hack it, panty waist, who wears their mama's bra. And they're all like, yeah, we're fine with that. But just like that was a funny one, though. It's just OK. Sure.

These like young boys. I mean, boys will be boys, right? Right. Right. Just like young locker room talk. They're not going to be at the forefront of a feminist movement, sure. They're young boys from 1962. But here's the thing.

Young kids, boys and girls, are watching this movie, and this audience is very impressionable. Yeah. They're easily influenced. So to hear things like this from a movie, they're like, oh, that's okay. That's okay. That's all right to think of women that way. I mean, look at all the guys we have to deal with these days. I mean, must have grown up watching that movie.

Mm-hmm. Oh, man. I'm ready to hold the Sandlot accountable. All these feminists. No, I think that, I mean, it wouldn't have been difficult to add, I mean, and this would be like the very, very, very least is kind of like a girl on the team who had

to, you know, take that shit and then say, hey, and then throw one good pitch. Like that sounds like that happens. Yeah, if they had a girl on the team, they'd be so badass. Right? Like just to give the... I think I would have liked the movie so much more if there was a girl yeah at least one

right because like sure i don't think it's unrealistic for these boys to be thinking and talking this way about girls but because it goes unchallenged is i think what bothers me yeah and like no one's like don't talk that way about women yeah think about how hilarious it would have been if he was like would you play ball like a girl and then it was like and then she's like the best player on the team you know or something like and she's like what's that supposed to mean you know he's like oh sorry you know there's moments for comedy there there's man yeah i i would love if there was a girl at least one girl it still wouldn't help this movie pass the Bechdel test. Right.

But it would be cool. And also, I'd like their, you know, most of them are like little shitty mouth-breathing boys that it makes sense for. Because they're supposed to be, what, like 9 and 10 or something like that? Yeah. Like pretty young. And then Benny's a little older. Maybe as old as 12 or 13. Yeah.

But, I mean, you've got and and benny and they're both pretty good kids and it's like you know they seem like the sort of characters that could interact with a uh like a a woman child yeah and and have it you know not be really condescending and and go well but they did not do that, which is not entirely surprising because this is written, directed, produced. It's all guys who made this movie, which is, I've never been less surprised, but because it's a little boy movie. Yeah, it was written and directed by David Evans. And then someone named Robert Gunter also has a writing credit on it. So they're responsible.

Yeah. Could we say that it's important to make movies that are just like, like, let's say that the Sandlot was like all girls about like a girls softball team, you know? Do you think people would be upset that there was no boy? Like, obviously people are upset because in movies there's already a lack of women represented. But let's just say it was the opposite and it was, like, all women. Would people be, like, oh, there should have been a boy in there? I mean, you might get some, like, men's rights activists who'd be like,

why aren't there? But, like, I feel like... The females are already so underrepresented in film. Right. When you feature, like, I feel like females are already so underrepresented in film. Right. When you feature like a marginalized group. Yeah, it's tricky because I do understand the argument that could be made of like, this is a movie about little boys. And I totally agree with you, Caitlin, that like the way that they talk about girls is never challenged. And that is, you know, maybe that's realistic, but it's a movie, it's very

easy to just throw in any sort of challenge from anyone. And there's a lot of stuff about this movie, like, it takes place in 1962. And there is a Hispanic character, there's a black character, this is not addressed at all. And that's, you know, like that that it's not that kind of movie that is going to address racial issues but it's weird because outside of gender it is relatively inclusive or at least you know we see those characters on screen and i don't i mean i don't know where this is going it's just weird because there's a few cop-outs in that it's the summer so we never need to see them at school and that's where we would see girls but even like at the pool and stuff like there's no girl that they

consider an equal in this movie because wendy peppercorn is like older and like above them or whatever and then there's uh scotty's mom and so there's no girl who is on their level to interact with. And that is kind of weird and even like unusual for this kind of movie. I mean, it's not even so much that I'm upset by the lack of women in the movie, although there certainly could be more. It's just, I suppose, the way that they think about women. Like I said, girls and women are used as an insult every time. It's basically like, we think that women are inherently bad and bad at sports and bad at throwing, and they are basically just lesser than us. So we are going to use that as an opportunity

to insult each other by calling each other girls or by insinuating that you're being girlish if you are being weak or not good at baseball. What do you think about Squints and Wendy Peppercorn getting together? Oh, yeah. Interesting. Getting together. So many twists and turns in that relationship. Like, you know, right before the credits, it's like, Squints and Wendy had, like, so many kids together.

They could not stop fucking. They could not stop. What do we think about that? Well, at first she's, like, this powerful woman who, like, kicks his ass out of the pool, you know. Because he sexually assaults her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Oh, yeah. He does. Yeah, he assaults her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

He does. Yeah, he pulls her down. Like, that's not good. But that is true. Like, it's never portrayed. Like, I, you know, never even crossed my mind as an adult,

like, watching this movie. I watch it every year, you know, like I said. Never crossed my mind that, like, she's getting sexually assaulted in my head. I'm like,

that goofy kid is like that's how they pulled a fast one on her you know yeah i mean the the voiceover from older scotty after that sequence i was like whoa this is it would have like it still would have been very strange to you know because squints literally like pulls this girl down and she's trying to like do her job and she's doing a good job but uh she kicks them out and that is like okay good you know she stood up for herself and got these kids the fuck out of there but then the voiceover kicks in and it was like man that was so fucking cool. What a bold little kid. And like, that was, he was a hero.

He kissed a girl and da da da. And then the part that like ruined Wendy Peppercorn for me is when later it was like, and every time he passed the pool, she would smile at him. I was like, why? What a little weird pervert. That would never happen.

She'd be like, oh God, that kidvert never happens she'd be like oh god that kid yeah i would have like a dart gun and like blow poisonous darts at him if i would love to see you operating a dart gun i might get in trouble for saying this but like it's just like there's this fine line between like technically it's sexual assault but then also he's like this stupid kid that just thinks like this is the way to like hit on Wendy Peppercorn. Or like, you know, the way it's presented is like, he's like, this is my one shot to like make his move.

You know what I mean? Like he doesn't even understand that like that would be considered assault. Yeah. I mean, in the movie. I think that the thing that bothered me more than the fact that it actually happened was that the adult like like 30 years later is like, that was cool. Like, no regrets, you know, like that. That was what bothered me a little bit more. Yeah, we're like the narration like this, you know, whatever the omniscient smart guy says it's fine. Because he says

what Squints did was sneaky, low, rotten and cool. Right. Yeah. That's nice. So at least they like partially acknowledge that it was like gross. Yeah. Yeah. And then after they've gotten

kicked out of the pool and as they're walking away, Ham is like, did you plan that? And he's like yeah I've been planning it for a while and everyone's like premeditated! premeditated sexual assault I want to break this down a little bit more because this scene was so alarming to me but before that happens

when we're introduced to Wendy Peppercorn for the first time, she's so heavily objectified it's insane for like a 14 year old girl it is very strange 14 she's she's young i don't know she's probably meant to be like 16 but let me look at it still so the first time you meet her she's walking down the street and there's a shot of just her butt like as, as she's walking. It's just, like, a lingering male gaze, shot of her ass. But that's what they're trying to portray, though, right?

I mean, they're portraying— He is, like, staring at her ass, probably. Well, yeah, I mean, they're saying that Squint is attracted to her, yes, but does it need to be in such a sleazy way filmically, like, cinematically? Yeah, I think that comes back to the lack of challenging anything. Where it's like you can have, ooh, another shout out to Headless Women of Hollywood, one of my favorite blogs ever. And that's like one of those classic things where it's like, oh, it's, you know, a woman's

ass and we know nothing about her except she's a lifeguard and she's got a good ass. Well, it happens again when she's at the... she's a lifeguard and she's got a good ass. It happens again when she's at the... That's a dream of mine. That's really all Squins knows about her too. She just has a crush from afar on this girl that he thinks is pretty and really all he knows about her is

her good looks. It is that shallow from the kid's perspective. I think that can still be communicated on screen without isolating a shot of just her ass. And then it happens again when she's at the pool. You see just a shot of her breasts as she's putting on sunscreen. So there's still ways to communicate that one character is attracted to another without horribly objectifying them like that, I feel. I guess, but I think part of, like, the thing that I think is funny is that he is just, like, so, like, drooling over, like, her ass.

It's kind of, like, things that, like, guys do focus on, you know? And they're even, like, you know, they're even poking. Men only focus on my feet, actually. Well, you know, like, they are, you know, for me, I don't think it's, like, so absurd to, like, show from his perspective that that's, like they are, you know, for me, I don't think it's like so absurd to like show from his perspective that that's like all he's focusing on

because that probably is like what he's focusing on. Sure. I mean, he's a horny little boy who's reaching puberty. Yeah. Yeah.

He's the first one which you would think would be Benny, but Benny, he's horny for baseball. He's horny for the game. Yeah. I see what you're saying. I'm not saying that it's right to

objectify women, but that is his perspective that they're portraying. I understand. It still grossed me out. I was still like, eww. It didn't gross me out. The first time I saw it, I didn't think anything of it 10 years ago ago but now I'm like

you know what that porn that I thought was the Sandlot where that woman's getting fisted is less objectifying than this movie yeah I'll say it well yeah I mean especially in a movie for little kids that's a weird precedent to

be setting and I mean like I don't know like kids are pretty sexual though you know what i mean like they i mean i made my barbies have sex with each other when i was like six years old i used to have my i used to make my hunchback of notre dame puppets make out yeah like i i like made out with my um ventrquist dummy, you know, like you had a ventriloquist dummy. Yeah. Go on. But like, you know, I feel like people tend to forget that kids like even from a young

age are like sexual beings, you know, in their own like innocent way. You know, like I was like banging my Barbies together or whatever. But kids still like have this still have this innate animalistic instinct. But that's kind of all the more reason to show them a way of looking at people that isn't so I don't know, like reductive. I don't know.

Also, they're poking fun at Squints for like, he's so goo-goo gaga over this girl. Yeah, that's true. To the point where he's willing to almost drown himself which by the way is my favorite line in the movie it's man expository dialogue because he's about to like go jump in the pool and someone's like but that's the deep end and squints can't swim and it's like cool thanks for that very on the nose explanation i love a good expository dialogue name but yeah

so then he he jumps in the pool and he like guess, pretends to drown or also maybe can't swim. But then Wendy saves him and she's performing CPR on him. And like the second or third time she like goes to blow air into his lungs. He's like, let's kiss. We're kissing. Is that how he talks? No. No, but I love that voice. Please never stop and then what also bothered me after that she like i do like that she's like you little pervert and she like grabs him and like yanks him and she kicks them all out of the pool but then two seconds later when they're like outside of the fence he like kind of waves at her and she just

gives him this look like, you little rascal. And it's like, he just forcibly kissed you without your permission. That was just confusing to me. She was just so mad and pushed nine boys out simultaneously. And then a few minutes later, she's like, you know what? It was kind of funny this is like where you cooled down wendy i don't know yeah i that that whole sequence like it started out i'm like well it's good that she's kicking their ass and then it sort of ended like and then you've you

had nine kids yeah and they get together is this a good time to say that Benny now is an LAPD firefighter? Oh, Benny. He's a firefighter. He retired from acting in 1997 after being in D2 and D3, The Mighty Ducks. No way. Yeah. Oh, my God. I love The Mighty Ducks. No way. Yeah. Oh, my God. I love the Mighty Ducks.

That poor guy got typecast. And then he was like, I'm going out on top and I'm going to save this beautiful city from fires. And he's, oh, God. Oh, wait, he was arrested. What? For what? Vitar and two other firemen were involved in a physical altercation with another man who was severely injured on Halloween 2015. He was booked on December 3rd for the incident and was later released on $30,000 bail.

Oh my gosh, Benny. He beat up a guy on Halloween. In his defense, it was Halloween. It's like the Purge. You can commit any crime you want on Halloween. Oh yeah, we're talking about Wendy Puffercorn. Oh, here's something I had a question about. Does Dennis Leary and his wife with no name have a good marriage, or do they hate each other?

She seems a little bit scared of him. Like, where he's always in his room with his... Oh, yeah. She's, like, scared to talk to him. She's like, great. Right, yeah she's like scared to talk to him right where she's like go talk to your dad and I don't know the dynamic between them Dennis Leary seemed very mean

first of all I love that Dennis Leary I think he's just stressed out though but what does he do what's his job where's he going he travels you know oh he travels for business and I get that we're sort of seeing his parents through Where's he going? He travels, you know, he travels for business. Oh, he travels for business. He travels for business. And I get that, like, we're sort of seeing his parents through Scotty's eyes where it's like no one totally knows what their dad does and, like, you know, sometimes. I still don't know my dad's own.

Really? Yeah, I have no idea. I asked someone what their dad did recently and he answered, like, something involving bricks. Oh, a bricklayer. Was that me? Because my dad's a bricklayer, but I know that my dad's a bricklayer. Is Oh, a bricklayer. Was that me? Because my dad's a bricklayer, but I know that my dad's a bricklayer. Is your dad a bricklayer?

Yeah. No, you know what your dad does. This is over 30. Lay me some bricks. I always say I need to just hook up with a Scottish bricklayer. Is your dad Scottish? No. See, I'm objectifying though.

Well, wait, you're going to scotland this summer right yeah that's why if anybody from scotland is listening to this and you're a bricklayer hit me up nathalie you just need to go to like brickless areas and just wait they'll show up yeah exactly i've never seen brick being laid before i've only seen it oh you're gonna want to see it that's i've only seen bricks getting laid. Oh, you're going to want to see it. I've only seen bricks getting laid. Oh yeah, bricks are fucking each other. Fucking bricks! My dad is a sports reporter

and there's no less, I mean, which Scotty is at the end, there's no less sexy profession in the entire world than they're just all people who are like, well, I wasn't that good at sports so now I wear hats and I sweat a lot. Those who can do, those who can't report on it.

Report the sport. That's the thing, right? That's the thing. But I will say my dad won third place local Emmy for his volleyball coverage in 2007. Is your dad really a sportscaster? He's a print guy, but he has more followers than you. He has more followers on Twitter than me. Oh, wow.

I thought that might have been a joke. I wish to God it was a joke. I had him for a little bit in early 2016. We got into this really fun screaming match where I was like, I did it! And he was like, Jess, you wait. And I did wait, and then he beat me again. Because he's got the Bruins exclusives and i don't have those i should start getting them if you're out there listening to this podcast please follow

jamie on twitter at hamburger phone please block my dad at loftus underscore ledger i did i asked people to block my dad and a lot of people they were very supportive and they blocked my dad i was like suspend his account. He followed me and I did not follow him back. Really? See, now he's trying to appeal to people and be like, I'm going to follow Jamie's friends. First of all, if they don't know what's up,

that looks very weird on your end. Did he try to get your account suspended as well? No, he's very mature about it. But no, he'll post about it on facebook sometimes and be like whenever my daughter does this dot dot dot i get a lot of followers on twitter and then all his high school friends were like yeah mike love sully because that's what i'm like yeah nice oh man having a dad named mike is Mike is the greatest struggle of my life. My grandpap's name.

Really? Wait, why is it a struggle for you? Well, because there are so many people out there named Mike, and sometimes you'll find yourself in a romantic situation, perhaps, with a Mike, and then it's like, there's been Mikes in my life. My dad's Dale. I never had that problem. That's amazing. My dad's name is I never had that problem. That's amazing.

My dad's name is Steve, which I think is already the least sexy name ever. Steve, but he's a bricklayer. Yeah. Hey, can we talk about how the most interesting female character in this movie is the character that's in the Wolfman,

which is being screened in like a movie theater as they're like chasing, they're the dogs chasing them yeah yeah it's toward the end they're like are running through the town and like this picnic and stuff and then they go into this movie theater and the dog like bursts through the projector screen i looked it up they're watching the wolfman from 1941 and the female character from that i think is the most interesting character in the Sandlot. Is it possible the Beast is a girl? Well, I don't know because we get some shots. We get some overhead

shots of the balls. We definitely see the dog's balls. That dog has got very prominent floppy balls. He's packing. Based on the name alone. I did have a female cat called the Dude.

So, you know, names aren't everything. That's cute. Yeah, it's named after the Big Lebowski. Yeah, I got you. I got you. It's very cute. I've seen that movie. Brag.

Good job, Jamie. That'd be a good movie for the test. I don't think it passes the test. I don't think it passes the test. I don't think it passes. If it does, it's by one of those two-line interactions. We've had a few of those, but it's unfortunate. The Sandlot, you know, it fails the test. For sure.

Pretty spectacularly. I think even women maybe only get a combined five minutes of screen time total. Because his mom is only in a small... And it's mostly his exposition mommy. Right. Who comes in. I thought that it was weird that one of... Her first scene, I think, is just her bursting into the room.

Like, why don't you have any friends? Like, I would be so terrified of my mom i mean she wasn't that aggressive but she was just like do you friends yet do you and he's like no i'm still i'm an egghead and she's like i want you to have a lot of friends it's important to have friends i was like geez she probably just wants him out of the house so that she can so she can do what also the mom's anti-engineering he's just trying to work on his kinetic set true learn engineering skills for the future she's a woman against stem she women against stem it's like whose side are you on

let's do let's do the the check the checklist of things we look for in every movie. I would argue we've got some steampunk going. Okay. Really? Explain. Okay, so... Is it like the erector set? Well, no, they make some little contraptions to get the ball, to get the Babe Ruth ball. So, you know, I've expanded my hatred of steampunk to anything involving gears and pulleys and

any basic machines. That's true. I'm like, you know, there's a little bit of steampunk culture. You know, the machine works. Yeah. They make a catapult, but I think they make it out of the erector set. Oh, do they? Yeah.

Okay. I will say I made macaroni and cheese while I was watching this movie this time. And so there are maybe two to three minutes that I don't totally know what happens. Gotcha. And my roommate talked to me and I had to pause it. Oh, yeah. Oh, I didn't. I forgot.

The roommate that you've never spoken to? Yeah, yeah. During this? Yeah, I paused it because I was in the kitchen. He caught me. He had just taken a shower at like 12, 30 p.m. Because he had sloppy bangs. Because I was trying to feed.

Hey, does anyone have any? Like you do when you're playing baseball and you're rounding the bases. Good. Yes, that was what I was trying to do. It all comes back together. I was on a... I've been on a few different softball teams in my life. Not in high school or anything like that.

But I was on, like, the Boston Comedy Softball League. Oh, I was afraid of that. Yeah, I was not very good. I knew a bunch of female comics who were on that Boston Softball League. I was invited to, but I was like, I'm kind of scared. good i knew a bunch of uh female comics who were who were on that busting softball league i was invited to but i was like i'm i'm kind of scared so i guess i was uh i was not helpful but anyways softball teams are cool i like to i was gonna play softball when i was a kid and i was practicing with my dad and he hit me in the face with the ball. No. He was pitching to me and I just didn't want to play anymore. What bad aim.

Yeah, how bad was your dad at softball? Also, softballs are huge. On accident, you know, as an accident. Yeah. Do you ever realize, my dad 100% tripped me on purpose when I was little. Because I know, and then I asked him about it about a year ago. I'm like, do you remember when you tripped me? Because, I don't know, I had been

complaining about a scab I had on my knee and I'm like, this is so stupid. I hate that I have this scab. It's ugly. I wish I hadn't fallen off my bike. And I guess I was being annoying. Annoying. And then he tripped me and I don't think he thought I was going to fall, but I did and then the scab

got bigger. Dad! Dad, no! Your dad deserves to be blocked on Twitter for a piece of me. They need to make a movie called Bad Dad. Am I right, guys? What about Daddy's Home?

What about Bad Santa? That'd be really great. I had to write clickbait today, as I do, so I can pay for things. And I wrote about the rock Vin Diesel feud. And my favorite part of learning about it was that when Vin Diesel stormed off the set of The Fate of the Furious last summer, he said, Daddy's gone. And then he left. That's true.

That happened? He said, well, allegedly, he said, Daddy's gone. And I was like, well, after eight movies, I guess that is allowed. You can just say Daddy's gone. Maybe he's Daddy on set. Maybe everybody's asking him to teach, him to teach to ride bikes and stuff like that Vin's like kind of our daddy it's like kind of the vibe he projects he makes us sandwiches

and cuts the crust off oh he's a good daddy he's not like the movie you're going to write Bad Daddy oh I like Bad Daddy better rolls off the tongue better I can't wait for that billboard. It's going to be good.

Does anyone have any final thoughts about the movie The Sandlot? I want a version of this movie that has a girl on the team. I think I would have really, really loved that movie when I was younger. I agree. I think so, too. Even though I did love the movie when I was younger, I think a girl would make it better. Hey, why not two girls? When I was a kid and playing sports and soccer or kickball or whatever in my neighborhood, it was mostly boys.

But I was a girl and I was there. I was playing. And I was better than most of them. Also, I was on a soccer team where I was one of two girls and then everyone else was a boy. But we were I don't know like seven or something and it was like a co-ed team and um the girls were yes underrepresented but we were there we were playing I scored a goal once I would like to see more girls but okay and I think maybe I'm just a bad person but is there something to be said about like there's like that dynamic of like the one girl like squeezes in and then teaches them all a lesson?

That's very kind of thing. It's like a trope. It's like the one strong female is like, fuck y'all like girls rule. I wish that wasn't a trope, you know, but it's like there's something about that trope that would have worked well in the movie. That even extends to like, I think we talked about that with superhero movies before where there's one female superhero and then she kicks something. And they're like, whoa, we didn't know you could do that. Whoa, you're strong. That's crazy. And then she like folds her arms and she's like, I know. I'm a strong girl.

But Powerpuff Girls, three girls, three strong girls, you know, that kick butt. Mm-hmm. Every episode passes the Bechdel test. Yeah, every episode passes the Bechdel test, exactly. And they kick ass, yeah. But, Kayleen, that's a good point. Maybe if there was, like, a pair of sisters. Yeah.

That, yeah, I mean, and then you could avoid that trope pretty easily. Because even if there were two little girls on this team, and one of them was great, and one of them was really bad at baseball, because I was 100% that kid who was like, oh, we need one more person. You know, Jamie, can you just stand here? Yeah. Like, and then, like, I was, I was not a sporty child. But, you know, maybe if there were two female characters, you could sort of dodge that trope, too. Sure. Yeah. And also maybe if Wendy Peppercorn's girlfriend shows up when Squints kisses her and is like, hey, she's taken.

Whoa. You know? Yeah. And then she drowns Squints. then she yeah i will say i would love someone to drown to impress me but i would want it to end in them actually drowning i just want to say real quick like i can't stop thinking i know we talked about like the kiss like squints it's sexual assault and i hate to excuse it this way but there's an innocence that kids have where like he doesn't realize you know what i mean right that's the problem though as well that's the

problem that it's he doesn't know but it's like yeah there's an innocence to like stealing a kiss from someone you know it's like oh kiss my cheek then you turn your head and like steal the kiss and it's like oh you know but this isn't you know you know what i mean and not to minimize any type of sexual assault yeah i don't want to do that you know being kissed is probably less traumatic yeah and other horrible things that can happen to you yeah so i do i mean i i do get the innocence part of it because it totally is like a kid thing to do. They're just psyched that he kissed a girl. You know what I mean? They're not like, yeah,

you sexually assaulted. You know what I mean? It's like kind of about perspective but it's like not, but it's also not okay to present that as an okay thing for kids. It starts somewhere is kind of the problem. it sort of goes back to the lack of challenging anything where if dennis leary was just like hey don't do that you know that's or like at any point

appeared to even vaguely like his wife and be like hey respect this one we don't know what her name is i don't know what her name is but you know she seems afraid of me well i think in the voiceover the older scotty does after that happens with wendy peppercorn he says something yes quince put the move on the lifeguard there's definitely like the seeds of something and teaching little boys yeah and that that's cool or something yeah it's i mean there's it's definitely a gray area where it's like we're not gonna take squints to court over this but showing that and then leaving it relatively unaddressed as like don't do that like smile and wave at him like she liked it or something right right right and then just leave her as being mad you know she's mad like she's not gonna come back and

suddenly have a crush on him or something and then double down and then marry it yeah and then be like she she loved it so much she couldn't get enough she kept coming back for more she fucked him five billion times okay also like in terms of thinking of like mischief and stuff it's kind of funny to like trick someone into thinking they're giving you CPR and then smack them with a kiss. You know what I mean? It's kind of mischievous. That's a hard scene to... I know it's so hard and we're pulling apart.

Right. And I'm probably approaching this too much like an SJW. no no no no yeah no i just like to want to like talk about it because it's just like it is weird yeah and and like is this presented yeah like i said like so lightly you know but then it's uh right but then it's like that's maybe the seeds of like making things okay yeah like if you see stuff like that enough times where especially again

the audience of this is like young impressionable kids exactly it's true it's tricky it is and I guess that that's why internalized misogyny is so hard to shake. Because like, you know, like in a lot of like comedy of errors type things, like farces and stuff, they have a, you know, a guy dressed up as someone else and they kiss.

You know what I mean? There's like a. Like getting someone to kiss you under false pretenses? Yeah, there's kind of like that cliche, kind of like trope-y thing about tricking someone into kissing you that I think it plays with. Man.

I would feel so much better about that if A, we just let Wendy stay mad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And B, if the voiceover after had been just a little bit like not even a little bit like more critical of like a chance with her or whatever or like right or like we learned later that that's not what you do and not like man that was kind of gross but it was mostly dope and now i as a 40 year old sports reporter still think like fuck that kid was so cool

that's weird right that's weird also uh not to objectify old scotty but he looked like shit man i was just he was such a little kid so did old benny why you know he gross mustache I love a mustache I do not he could have been so much hotter he's such a nice thick mustache I don't love a mustache but I thought he looked he was a man at the 90s you know 90s men had mustaches I was so excited for him to grow up to be this hot hunk

and then it was I agree that he didn't meet my expectations but I don't think he's a bad looking guy he was a hot child. He was a hot boy. And I like a good mustache. Some children I used to think were hot.

A list of two people who come to mind. Oh, wait. No, three. Okay. Number one, Peter Pan in the 2003 live action Peter Pan. His name was Jeremy something. He was very cute. Number two, Liam Aiken

in 2004's A Series of Unfortunate Events. He played Klaus. Little mop top. Adorable. Number three, and this was one that I remember my mom told my cousins Jamie has a crush on Chris from a direct to

video Casper movie called Casper Returns and I had a huge crush on little Chris who had all his hair was like one huge cowlick. He had a middle part and I was just like, he's so cute and I confided in my mom and then she fucking blew it.

She told everyone and my cousins were like you like Chris? He only has bangs. I were like, you like Chris? He's all, you know, he only has bangs. I'm like, I like that. Anyways, three hot children. I don't remember ever being, even when I was a kid, I don't remember being attracted to like other kids on screen. Like all my movie crushes were on adult men, which I don't know what that says about me. I went to either my age or...

Younger? No, very old. Because then in comes the Alfred Molina crush. Sure. And that gets tricky. Who's Alfred Molina? Doc Ock. Oh, yeah.

From Spider-Man 2? Oh, whoa! Okay. He's also... He's in Frida. And he's in... He's in a lot Frida, and he's in Chocolat. Oh, I love Chocolat. He plays the, is he the mayor, I want to say?

He's not the hot character in the movie, but I think he's the hot character in the movie. Love a good beefcake. He's the goalie from Mighty Ducks, the bad boy. And he's like, they get him to be on the team because he's so fast, like blocking on the pucks. Yeah, I never thought. I only saw him in Mighty Ducks, I think, once. But it's cool when there's like, oh, and then another hot child, the kid from Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide.

I thought Ned was so cute. And then his friend, who is a girl, was tall. And I was like, it's me. I'm taller than all of my, you know, everyone's so small and I'm so big. And they still had a crush on each other. And that, I was inspired. I was like, wow, small men, you really can make it happen. Yeah.

Yeah. So that's four hot children. Oh, and Natalie added one too,'s four hot children oh and natalie added one too so five hot yeah yeah yeah i can't think of any maybe i was just a horny kid i don't know but yeah kids are horny they're always like rubbing their parts and stuff you know they don't realize it but yeah they are i mean and every kid has a weird memory like like i remember cory who lived in the trailer down the street who i had such a huge crush on one time he like i mean again he's like kind of cornered me but i was like oh cory you know and he caught me singing a song from hercules in my backyard and then he kissed my forehead.

Thank you. Thank you. He moves on your forehead. Yeah, on my forehead because he is a little bit taller than me. I like that. Well, I think it's time. I think it's time to rate the movie. All horned up.

Yep. Does anyone want to go first? We rate on a scale of zero to five nipples based on its portrayal of women. Oh my gosh. All horned up. Yep. Does anyone want to go first? We rate on a scale of 0 to 5 nipples based on its portrayal of women. Oh my gosh. I'll go first. Based on its portrayal of women, it gets like a 0. Yeah.

Unfortunately. But I do love the movie still for nostalgia. And I think it's just got some classic moments. But yeah. 0 on its portrayal of women, unfortunately. Yeah. I'll give it a zero as well. I want, okay, we got to, I think that this is more of a call to action.

We got to do a Sandlot reboot. Replace the boy twins with girl twins. Oh, that's great. We're good to go. Like, yeah. Yeah. twins with girl twins we're good to go like yeah yeah just give us give us a a new sandlot with with girls and then everything else can yeah you know and give the mom a name yeah yeah if if she and dennis leary can even still be the dad if he wants if he's not busy he was a big hit with you wasn't he i love dennis yeah yeah you know i'm a fan well anyways so i give a zero

nipples if i were to give it in a nipple of any sort though i would like to specify it would be james earl jones's blind nipple yeah i was i was gonna give it like a half nipple until you said well just because we i don't even think we've ever given a movie zero nipples before. I'll give it a one. Should I give it a one? I mean, well, no, I don't think it deserves that much. There's really just, it's just no female characters. And the ones that there are, you know. They're heavily objectified.

They have very little screen time. His mom is, I mean, I guess I don't have any problems with her. I couldn't think of anything. But she's like. She's just like a little exposition machine. She's like all scared of the dad, though. his mom is I mean I guess I don't have any problems with her I couldn't think of anything but she like she's just like a little exposition machine she's like all scared of the dad though

she is yeah she's like when you maybe have time can you teach him how to pray like he's about to hit her or something

right and then his dad oh god any movie where like the dad is always in a different room you're just like ugh god

what is he doing in that room yeah what is he doing in that room? What is he doing in that room? Yeah. Give us our Sandlot reboot. I can't dislike this movie. But not straight to video reboot. No. Give us a wide release.

Yeah. Like actually a good movie though. That's what I'm saying. So many times they reboot a movie and it just sucks. Give us another Mighty Ducks as well. Oh yeah. I think they might actually be doing that. Or adults.

But maybe also they could just think of a new thing. I love Emilio Estevez. Yeah. Hey, I'm going to give it zero nipples. The women are just, you know, poor Wendy. I want to give her more lines. Make her not okay with her being kissed against her will.

Don't make her marry twins. Don't make her marry. At least that. I mean, come on. That was added in the titles. It was a bit much. Yeah. Sandlot is a good movie for nostalgia.

It's a bad movie for women in terms of the way the characters just don't exist. This is why we have the podcast, because sometimes it's hard to be like, I love this movie, but gotta call a spade a spade sometimes. I don't hate it. I like a lot of

the boy characters. They're fun. They've got hate it. I like a lot of the little boy characters. They're fun. They've got some fun. It is, you know, it's a little boys movie for like little boys. Yeah, they've got the chubby one.

Yeah. They've got, they have all the little boys. Of course. Yeah, I mean, I guess, but Ham became a pro wrestler. Shut up. That's pretty dope.

Well, not in real life, but in his epilogue. I don't know if any of these kids act anymore. I think Ham does. Ham! He was in like a Funny or Die video or something. Oh, good for Ham. Did you say good for him or good for Ham? I said good for Ham.

Oh, God. Hey, Natalie, where can people find you online? Oh, my gosh. Find me at NatDogCatDog on Twitter. Cat with a K. Love it. And on Instagram at Natalie Palamutis. Also, shout out to all those Scottish bricklayers out there.

Oh, yeah. Hit me up. Your girls coming through. Hit me up. They'll be like, oh, I'm from Scotland. There's a brick over here. There's been someone murdered. Oh, my gosh.

You're working me brick over here. There's been a... Someone murdered a brick. Oh, my God. You're working me up over here. Thank you so much for being here. Oh, yeah. Thanks for having me. For chatting about this movie with us. Yeah, you're welcome. It's been a ton of fun. Yeah, it has. Now, home run.

What? I don't know. Let's not get out of the park. I try to say something at the end of the episode that's relevant to the movie. Okay, I thought you were starting a new part. I was like, oh, I thought we were finished. Just go out there and hit a home run with your life, everybody. If you reach for the stars, you might get there.

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