The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - 12 Days of The Bachelorette: Stealing Jesse Palmer for a Second: Part 2

Episode Date: July 8, 2022

More secrets are revealed about what to expect on Gabby and Rachel's season of The Bachelorette as our conversation with Jesse Palmer continues!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcast with IHartRadio. We're back. Yes, we are back with Jesse Palmer. And this episode, we're going to break down this season of The Bachelor at. We're going to get some juice on how this season operated. If Gabby and Rachel really got along behind the scenes, how Jesse navigated this season, if it was difficult, if it was different from The Bachelor. or Bachelorette for him, it's going to be awesome. It is awesome. So let's jump into it with

Jesse Palmer. All right, Jesse, you just got done filming Rachel and Gabby's season. Whoever the minds that be behind the scenes definitely said, hey, Jesse, welcome to the show. Let's give you two bachelorets and let you deal with that. I guess my question for you is how did it go? Having two bachelorettes under your care. Yeah, that's a great question. Nobody knew how this was going to work at all because it's never really happened before. We've never had two bachelorette's go the entire course of the season. So it's double the work for sure as a host.

It's a lot more story. It's two love stories, but two completely different journeys between two women who are different people, Rachel and Gabby. there could not be two more deserving people to have this have this opportunity but when we started this thing and i kind of mentioned it to rachel and gabby when we're on the couch and after the final rose like how is this going to work how are you going to date this group of guys who's going on different dates how are hometowns going to happen like where are we going how does this all work and blend together and somehow some way all i'll say is it just kind of worked yeah It worked itself out.

Rachel and Gabby had to navigate a minefield at times and situations that no Bachelor of Bachelorette, I think, has ever had to encounter. A big theme of this season for them is their love and support and friendship together, helping them kind of get through this. But no doubt about it, dude, like for myself, for you, for everybody that's going to watch this season, like, you need a wall in your house with photos and strength. rings connected to them, like you're solving a crime, like a crime, because there's just so much storyline going on at the same time. And there's different people and maybe there's a love

triangle over here. Who knows what's happening? But I cannot wait for Bacheloret Nation to see this all unfold and play out because it really is, it's going to be at first. Like, this is history. And people are going to see that. It's pretty, pretty cool. Well, I mean, and you're not aware of it. There was criticism because of, you know, my season of The Bachelorette had two Bacheloretts. one of them made it past night one the other one did it people were concerned uh fans were concerned about oh we're doing this again and that was so hard to watch and i think everything we found out post filming uh and ashley and i are committed to not getting spoilers we work really hard at that but one thing we do know is that rachel and gabby uh are very supportive of each other now which

means I would assume that they were very supportive of each other then. But you didn't know that, Jesse, going into the season. The two of them, you know, you didn't know that they were going to get along. You didn't know that they were going to stand up for each other. This could have gone a lot of different directions. Can you speak a little bit to what they did behind the scenes to keep that relationship intact and to keep each other supporting each other? Awesome question. I think a reason why people thought maybe this could work in the beginning is because we all saw the unwavering support they had for each other in Iceland on Clayton season during the row ceremony from hell and the double breakup. I remember being there obviously in person at the Opera House in Reykavik and just the emotion, the heartbreak, how hard of a night that was for both of them. And so we sort of saw them support each other through that.

And I think it gave us hope that this could happen on The Bachelorette. But you make a great point. That doesn't guarantee anything. And, you know, that was one isolated incident. But what happens now when you put a bunch of men in a room? And what if Gabby and Rachel are falling in love with the same guy? Or what if the same guy is falling in love with Rachel and Gabby? you know it's there's so many scenarios uh on the season of the bachelorette that that we

didn't anticipate we couldn't we didn't know how it could play out and what would happen but i will say this i think rachel and gabby deserved an insane amount of credit for how they work together and leaned on each other and supported each other i mean their their friendship is a real thing. They had to have some really raw and honest discussions with one another. And they had to break rules or set rules because, again, this is kind of a first time we're doing this. And they really took control of this thing. They really did.

And I think that, I mean, I would hope, you know, for them coming into this, because there were so many question marks, you know, I don't know if it was something they talked about together, before they came on but they were ready they were ready to take charge and we don't want to do this row ceremony this way or we don't want to do this date this way or this group date this where this is the amount of guys we want to go have a date with or this is where we want to go we're canceling the date we're doing this like they were they were on it and we really gave them the space to do that because we just we were hopeful it was going to work but we just didn't know how it would and I think at the end of the day again the big theme of them supporting each other and being there

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I think one of the marks of the best leads are the ones that take charge. And you might not even see them taking charge, but it's putting your foot down on things you feel uncomfortable with. It's putting your foot down and saying, I'm not going to do this or that. And I've always said that, hey, that is an option. It is available to you. Nobody can force you to do anything. So it's really great to hear that they did. that and then had each other to lean on. But you as the host then, did you find it difficult as they kind of took charge and you were kind of like trying to catch up with them to relate with them to to meet them where they're at? Or did you feel like, hey, you could get the hang of it pretty quickly? No, it was a unique challenge for sure. And we talked about how formulaic the show is, right? So you go through a season, you know, so you and I are the bachelor and then you host a show and you go through the season with Clayton. And then there's, you know, it's like there's the steps you see and there's the dates and

the group dates and the one-on-ones and then a rose ceremony and then there's a house arrival, all that stuff sort of goes down. I think one of the big challenges with Rachel and Gabby was if they did want to change the rules, they did want to take control, it was understanding for them what they want to do, why did they want to do it? And then how can I as a host help facilitate that and help them enact that plan? hard to know sometimes when things like that have never happened before what I will say and I don't want to give anything away but there were times that there's there were some times on the show where things happened that nobody anticipated things happened in settings that that we've seen a thousand times on the show and massive curveballs got thrown and we were all sort of Rachel and Gabby myself producers everybody were just sort of of like, what just happened, how do we move forward from this now?

And we all kind of had to work together and to do that. And everybody was able to do that, thankfully. And Rachel and Gabby, again, deserve the most credit because they could stand up and they could say, this is how we want to do it. I know this might not fit into what the creative would have been seven months ago when we were thinking about this, but this is who we are, this is what we want. you know we're here to find love we're here to find our person and we have to be truthful to ourselves and we have to handle these situations the way that the way that we're going to do it we're

going to be real about this but that that's one of the things I respect most about rachel and gabby i think is that they're both very real the different people right like with gabby she's she's as real as they come what you see is what you get you know that she's so emotionally matured she's so good I wish I could be as good as Gabby at like explaining how I feel and why I feel that way. She's incredible. And then Rachel's the type of person who loves, she loves hard. And I think we saw in Clayton's season, like she can put her guard down or her walls down faster than most of us ever do.

She knows what she wants from a family standpoint, career standpoint as a pilot. Like she has, she has needs that need to be met in order for it to be compatible. But, you know, so you've got two different people, but for them to have the conversations they were able to have to try to kind of work through all this. It was so impressive to me as a host kind of sitting back and watching it. I was pretty maddened. Well, yeah, because being decisive is so important. But then oftentimes, as you're a single lead,

there are situations where there's no right answer. It's like the less of two evils. Then you add in a second lead sitting beside you, those things expound. The problems probably grow a little bit. And so navigating those waters have to be. be tough and that's oftentimes where you come in Jesse it is where you can go okay can we bring some wisdom into the situation how many times did you find yourself having to sit down in those

moments we're like oh crap I don't really know what to do here uh let's let's talk it out yeah let's three of us talk about how many times did that figure it out it happened it definitely happened and you know the other tricky part was like there's times that Gabby and Rachel's journey is sort of intertwined and it's going together, but then there's also times where at some point it has to separate. And they need to kind of, you know, Gabby and Rachel kind of go their own direction. And so it was me trying to give them space to talk together at times. I didn't always, again, it's not me. It's not about me. I didn't want to be the one interjecting all the time and being like, guys, come on, huddle up. Let's talk about this. We're going to figure it out right now. What do you

want to do? What do you want to do? You know, there were times where you had to sort of give them space to have those moments and have those conversations. But then there was other times where one person's really high after a situation. The other person's way down here, though, because that's the inevitability of how this is going to work. One's going to make a decision, and it might affect the other person, whether they're conscious of it or not. And so then you're having, as a host, you're going over here and you're saying, hey, how are you feeling? Why do you feel that way? Let's talk it out.

Here's some advice I can give you. Here's something that happened on my season that made me feel this way. You know, it's, and then, and then conversely, this person's here and all of a sudden, literally the next day, it's a 180 completely. So that was, you know, it was sort of like a scale and you're just sort of kind of kind of, there was a lot of challenges to this as a host for sure. And, but like, again, because, you know, I'm such a big fan of Rachel and Gabby. And this was, this was new for me too, because it was the first time hosting. I actually knew the leads. Yeah.

When I met, when I met, when I met, when I met, when I met, I literally met him, he came out of the limo on night one. Obviously, I knew who he was, but I didn't really have a relationship with him yet at that point. Having kind of lived through Rachel and Gabby's journeys on Clayton's season, you know, I was aware of what happened. And because of that, I felt very invested in them, wanting them to both be happy. And as it is on any season, but particularly this one, there were some days, there were some times where I wasn't sure what was going to happen.

you know how this was going to end and we didn't know if we didn't know what what could happen would they both make it to the end would they both find love would they both not would one bail early just because they couldn't handle it I mean it's all on the table it really is now was it different for you uh to host the bachelor I mean given you had two bacheloretts uh but if you could like somehow think about this is a bachelor's season and a bachelor's season was it different in terms of navigating it or did it feel very similar? It was similar in a lot of ways

but it was very different in a lot of the ways that we spoke about. I also, you know, I feel like I had more interaction with cast on this season as well. There were some times where some of the dudes would want to pull me aside and be like, hey, I got a problem. I don't know what to do.

You know, can we go? Can we sit down and talk about this? And so that was sort of new for me as well. There was, it wasn't just, look, on Clayton's season, I was mostly interacting just with Clay. Yeah. On this season, though, it was Rachel and Gabby most of the time. But then there were times where I was also interacting with the cast. It's funny, man, like you wear so many different hats doing this.

And you're, you're an advisor, you're a shoulder to cry on, you're, you know, you're offering advice where you can. But you're also a cheerleader. And so there's just so many different, different hats you have to wear. I think every single day or every, you know, different points of different days, you felt like you were just kind of always changing them. And so it was it was labor intensive, but it was totally worth it. Yeah. Well, we're going to close up here with you, Jesse. But I do have one final question for you. For anybody out there listening, for the fans in Bachelor Nation, if you as the host of the show could write your own teaser and write the language to that teaser,

giving people a preview of what they can enjoy going into this Bachelorette season. How would you bring that teaser to life? What's your best sales pitch to get people to tune in, watch, and enjoy this season? Well, the most dramatic season in Bachelorette history is the first thing I would say verbatim. Two, I would just say, hey, it's history. Two bachelorets, double the love, double the drama, double the fun. And double the work for the host. That's perfect.

Well, hey, Jesse Palmer, thank you so much for joining us today on the Almost Famous podcast. Best of luck as you continue filming and best of luck in this upcoming season of The Bachelorette, as you probably hit the media circuit here pretty soon. The work never stops for the host of Bachelor, Bachelorette, and Bachelor in Paradise. Jesse Palmer, thanks. Thanks for having me on, Ben. Thanks, thanks, brother. Appreciate it.

All right, everybody, the party still continues. It will still continue leading up to the airing of. The Bachelor at, we're going to be back here on the Almost Famous podcast. Thank you for joining us today. Jesse was awesome. We're so pumped here to watch this season and see how it progresses week by week. We won't stop breaking it down, but until then, we still have a party to celebrate. Let's keep it going. I've been Ben. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, Almost Famous Podcasts on IHeart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.

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