The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - A Bromance Expedition with Blake Moynes

Episode Date: March 8, 2024

Blake Moynes is back from South Africa and ready to catch up with Ben and Ashley! We get the latest on his dating life, but the real juice comes from another Bachelorette alum who went on the trip too...… his close friend Zac Clark!  We ask the hard hitting questions and Blake can’t help but reveal the truth about if he and Rachel Recchia ever got close (off camera!).  Plus, we find out exactly what Blake is looking for in a partner and what it would take to get him back on the Bachelorette!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
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Starting point is 00:02:16 Today we have a special guest. Blake Moynes is on. Ashley's birthday was yesterday, so. Happy birthday. Did you do anything fun? What did you do for it? Anything fun? Well, Ben, I needed to tell you this. I had the worst massage of my life.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Mm-hmm. Like, Blake, he's a massage guy. Like, he goes for a massage, like, once a week, or, like, he's had points in his life where he's done that. And, like, he gives the best massages, too. So, anyway, yesterday, Ben, it was like the woman was applying just suntan lotion to me for, like, an hour. Okay?
Starting point is 00:02:54 It was just all she did. Just go like this. And I'm like, what? And I, this is a good conversation topic, but do you tell them you need more pressure? No, that's one thing I don't have in me. I can say, if they ask, I feel like it's appropriate, be like, yeah, deeper. Yeah. But they, they, there's been many occasions to the stand out, I guess.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Just just had one of these where like you've gotten a really bad massage. And it's mostly like the hardest hour of your life because you're like, I was looking forward to this for so long. The hardest hour of your life. Totally. And you're like, this is just awkward. I have some human just like petting me. That is exactly what it was. And then the light was on.
Starting point is 00:03:39 And I'm just like, I feel so weird. She's just like gracing my skin. It was the weirdest thing. You like to ask. This is what you do. You need to go in and book a deep tissue. Yeah. Always tell them to let off.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Light on. Okay. Exactly. I think we should keep this all in. This is the way that we were starting this podcast, guys, with Blake Moy's welcome. We're talking about massages. I felt the same way, Blake. I was like, I could tell them to just, you know, a little bit less.
Starting point is 00:04:10 But then I've never been in the situation where I had to say a little more. And especially since I'm pregnant and it was a prenatal massage, I didn't know whether she was just trying to be delicate with me. And I'll say this. So it was like five minutes in that she. ass about the pressure and at that point she had just done like my my back like my shoulders and I was thinking like okay well maybe she's being super gentle because it's prenatal um so that's why I especially said yeah it's good um but then as soon as she started doing other regions and it was truly just like applying suntan lotion on me I was just like I made a mistake
Starting point is 00:04:54 But what is like, okay, so I see prenatal in there when I like sign up. What, what do they, like, why do they need to, what is? Right. What is the difference? I'm not sure, except for the fact that, like, it comes with all, like, the cushions. So, like, there's the belly slot and there's like a booby slot. And that's really nice. But in the other prenatal massages I've had before, which is only been two, they felt very just normal except for the cushions.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Mm-hmm. Ashley, we still want to wish you the happiest of birthdays because you deserve to be celebrated. We are very happy. You were born. We mean that. I'm sorry about yesterday. It was honestly a fun story. And I was like, this is great content.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Here's the best way to fix the problem that exists right now. Just book yourself another massage. Go do it again. Just go for it. Why not? You deserve it. Totally. Blake, you're with us today to talk about a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:05:52 love life, but also this trip that you just got back from from South Africa was Zach Clark. Zach Clark came on to the podcast a few months ago. Just an incredible episode, not because there was a lot of juice that came from it, but there's a lot of honesty that came from it. Can you kind of give us a rundown just for those who are not aware
Starting point is 00:06:13 and maybe don't follow you on social, what you were doing in South Africa, why Zach came? What was it all about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, so I just got back and I leave tomorrow for another expedition. But yeah, South Africa was 100 kilometers bike run kayak, an endurance challenge over three, four days to raise money for an organization out there that's trying to purchase land to connect
Starting point is 00:06:43 protected areas for wildlife together to make bigger areas for wildlife because right now everything's fragmented so there's protected area agriculture human disturbance that blocks them from getting to the other protected area and you need these areas all connected for biodiversity to thrive to elephants to be able to migrate all of these things so it was a fundraiser through challenge and zach came along with me to do that one because he's one that would actually love to do it yeah not because these things aren't for everybody being in that environment and then the 100 kilometers he's also a runner so I felt like you know he was a great one to tag along because if you have the bad apple out there who just isn't into it when they get out there can ruin everything for
Starting point is 00:07:29 everybody so he was a great person to come along and do that and just we've been very tight since the since the show three years ago so yeah that's why it was him because he gets well we saw on your social media at least I did a video of you crashing so it might my big question for you is did you finish this challenge and do you have a broken hip no i don't actually have a broken hip it was more like a an embellishment exaggeration of how hard i fell um i did technically finish i came 10k short on the run the last day was a 34 kilometer like marathon run oh my gosh this is never trained in my life i've never trained so i never have ran more than 2.5k ever in one row.
Starting point is 00:08:20 So then all of a sudden I tried to do this and my feet. So I don't know if you guys remember there was a huge infection that I had when I did my wildlife training last year where I like almost lost my foot due to blistering and infection that set in had to get surgery in South Africa last year. So when this started setting in and I got all the blisters on the bottom of my feet 20K in, I went to the doctor like, listen, I can't afford to do this. I have another expedition coming up. They're like, hey, well, probably smart to pull out.
Starting point is 00:08:46 We'll treat the bottom of your feet and get rid of these blisters. you're able to go. So technically 10K short out of the 100, which unfortunate, but it is what it is. I had to be smart about it. Sure. That makes complete sense. Don't lose your foot over this. There's a lot of, did Zach finish though? He did. He's strong runner, right? So when it came to the last day, he was, it was funny though for him on the bikes. I have a ton of experience in the kayak and the biking aspect, just through all the schooling and the stuff that I've been through. So it was funny seeing him on a bike getting used to that. And then funny enough, I'm the one who crashes and makes a fool of myself on it.
Starting point is 00:09:21 But I thought so hard. Ashley, I don't know if you saw this. I will say this. What, you know, Blake's life is one that's admirable. I enjoy the content. You're an idiot. Honestly, Blake. I was watching this.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I was like, this dude is going down a mountainside, filming himself. And it's not just like a, like I, when I was in Peru for a while, we did like a bike right now like the most dangerous road this was not a road this was a rocky path and Blake is filming himself and I'm like this what is he thinking is going to happen here like there's no way
Starting point is 00:10:00 this does not end how it did the thing is there was a break where it was when you're going so fast and it'd never been on this trail before there was like what I could see not as rocky was a little bit and then all sudden like it changed the terrain changed and you have
Starting point is 00:10:16 one hand on and you're like and all on, you know, we'll switch as I head over heels. Oh, my. I'm glad you're okay, though. So I just wanted to say, I wanted to get it out there that, like, if we were closer and you're a friend of mine, I would have texted you and been like, what were you thinking? But I get to tell you here. I got enough of those anyway, so it's okay.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Did you and Zach, like, sit together on the long plane ride? How was traveling with Zach? Zach is just so even keel, calm and everything. He's the, it was the easiest to travel with. didn't get to sit together. He had a, like, not the, not the, he had a seat up, like an upgrade up because he, I guess travels with United all the time. So he, I have an economy.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Same with Ben. Ben gets upgrade all the time because his United Miles are like, well, he logs them every other day. Like the man is on a United plate every other day. Just to get upgraded. That's all I want to do, actually. I just want to get upgraded all the time. There's a bit about that, though.
Starting point is 00:11:13 I get it. Yeah. Now, Blake, as we kind of close up, what? What's this next expedition? You know, I'm curious kind of what is life looking like for you and you're going on these expeditions and you're raising funds for wildlife protection in these protected areas and these animals. But kind of how does life look on a day-to-day basis?
Starting point is 00:11:37 Like make it make sense to all of us. Okay. So how do I explain this in short? The next expedition I'm going on is tomorrow. We're running. I partner with nonprofit organizations. to help get funding for them. That happens in a bunch of different ways,
Starting point is 00:11:52 one being expeditions. So we bring people along on conservation impact style expeditions where they get to interact with animals, sometimes get hands-on and some of the research and all that stuff. And so I run a bunch of these. We have a bunch more coming up.
Starting point is 00:12:05 We're about to launch three shark ones back to back in Florida. We have South Africa and May. I have another trip to Kenya right after that where we're doing work with elephants and putting satellite collars on elephants for tracking and research purposes. So it's expedition or research project one after another
Starting point is 00:12:24 with nonprofit organizations for the most part. And that's kind of my life is traveling and doing this work. But it's also a lifestyle. So it's been really rewarding to be able to make work my passion. And it also gives back. So that really takes me away from the life that I have had here and which also makes it difficult to find somebody in this lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:12:50 My partner would need to be on board and it just doesn't seem like it's an easy thing to find. Okay, well, we want to get into that in a second, but we also, I want to ask you, we know that you were involved with Wildlife before the show, but would you have been able to do these partnerships so successfully if it weren't for it? No, I mean, the show has been a massive part
Starting point is 00:13:13 in letting that all, play out. I was always involved in wildlife, but not to the dream of exotics and be able to work with non-profits for conservation because it very quickly... It's not like the celebrity contest, well, not contestant, but like participant. Yes, yes. So realistically, I mean, what it comes down to is the value lies in voice. There's just not a voice is in conservation or want to dedicate their time to that. So the partnership is very mutual. And so my value is that voice. be able to uplift and provide a voice for their initiatives and projects so yeah the show has
Starting point is 00:13:54 definitely helped in that capacity now it's just sustained itself because of all the shit that i've been doing for two years that have i wouldn't say classifies me as an expert but i've been in master classes now with you know shark week experts and people that have expertise in rhinos and elephants and translocations and you know vet work so i have now very very um good understanding and knowledge base. And that can just continues as I continue to do all this work in all these different specialties. Where does this lead?
Starting point is 00:14:26 Like kind of where do you see yourself with this in five years? What are you working towards? So I mean, interestingly enough and haven't necessarily signed NDA so I can speak on a little bit. We just got back from Peru and Bolivia, but Peru mostly were in the infancy stage. and we have funding to start shooting a long feature documentary with some good backing and some already a lot of interest from some networks, which is great, and it's going to be mission-driven.
Starting point is 00:14:57 So there's that we're working on in the background, aside from all the expeditions and stuff that I'm doing. There's a couple lines in the water just in terms of other potential TV appearance things in this space as well, too, that I can't speak on right now, but there's things happening on that front. So, you know, I don't know exactly what things look like in the wildlife space, but I would say that there's more I do this,
Starting point is 00:15:22 the more interest there is in that. And a lot of reachouts are coming from the TV space, but just expeditions, non-profits, all these things. So I just continue to see it kind of flourish in that direction. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.
Starting point is 00:15:52 This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly
Starting point is 00:16:16 trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this. Attention passengers. The pilot is having an emergency, and we need someone, anyone, to land this plane. Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying like, okay, pull this. Do this. Pull that.
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Starting point is 00:19:30 effort and time one's the stuff that i'm doing right now which is taking up all of my time And so it's hard to then break off of that and be able to give effort and time to letting a relationship first connection happen to an extent where you want to then put in the work for it to make it blossom. And so it's hard to do both of those things. Sometimes I'm remote and I can't even communicate. So how do you get a, how do you even get a relationship going at that point or a connection going?
Starting point is 00:19:58 And then how do you maintain and sustain it when other people have needs? And if I can't, it's been hard. to manage both. Sometimes I get excited about a certain person that I'm dating or seeing and then I'm off for three weeks and that kind of, it kind of might dissipate or, you know, sometimes I feel like I'm having an obligation once you start connecting to somebody to try to provide and you're not providing emotionally or like getting to texts or getting to calls or being physically present. So I'm finding there's a balance there and I'm not balancing it very well right now. And so I don't know where it goes, to be honest right now. I'm kind of lost in the
Starting point is 00:20:38 relationship space and how to go about it. Is it one of the reasons why you went on Paradise was the idea that you would be able to focus on it for a bit? And then did, I mean, I guess it's a two-part or if something from Paradise would have worked out for you, like how do you think that works out in the real world then? Yeah. So to that two-part question, I in really really weird way we have I mean you probably both know this even though you're in relationships there are so many distractions in everyday life right now that it's the I find it's the hardest to actually connect and then maintain before something like fizzled out there's so many distractions whether it's work other people dating apps all of these
Starting point is 00:21:26 things weirdly enough paradise for the amount of the time that we're there every day, no phones, no music, no job I can go to, no business stuff, no other distraction aside from other women coming down. You literally are, that's what we need nowadays, put the phones away, all the, and just focus on that person, that's why I was able to develop feelings for Jess, which was so nice. I remember them being, like, thinking that I was going to be walking away with her and things obviously didn't turn out that way. But, yeah, I loved Paradise for that because it,
Starting point is 00:22:01 you to get away from the shit that doesn't allow us to connect nowadays, right? All distractions, they're all, so it loved it for that. The second part was you asked, how would it have worked out? Good question. I don't really know what I could say, I think, to that is I also do have the ability to bring people along with me and my partner along with me on these things. Would they be able to at every time? No, but I would be able to.
Starting point is 00:22:31 able to have them come for whatever they wanted to. What I also try to maybe dial back the amount that I'm away, yes, especially if I really believed in that relationship. So I don't know, but I think that the issue here is trying to find a connection where I then have to make that decision right now. Yeah. I never have to think about it. But I think if someone really made sense for me, I would find a way to pull away from, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:58 these guys here a little bit then and you know and find that space for to be able to to give enough of that to foster that relationship. Yeah. I haven't had to make that decision yet. No, but it's, I like the way
Starting point is 00:23:14 you talk about it. It's sweet. Like you can definitely tell it's a priority in life. As you could tell on the show that it was a priority in life for you. I've been a relationship person all of my 20s. Two and a half years, two years, three years, three and a half years. And then the show stuff has happened and it has made things and it's been difficult it's been challenging
Starting point is 00:23:33 as you know we come up the show there's just it's just everything's weird it's different you look at things different there's so i am a little lost in that space for sure right now and i and i always used to be so confident in it yeah i mean i guess the big question then for people that follow you are rooting for you that are wanting you to find what you're looking for um i know you just said your loss but kind of what i'm sure it crosses your mind how are you seeing uh dating for you in the next couple years you know how how do you see that looking i have been trying to put myself out there more and i have been going on dates and connecting with people and there's like lots of potential there i i don't i don't really i'm hoping ben to be honest with hoping i go on one
Starting point is 00:24:24 these expeditions and there's a girl that's in my space that I'm just like wow and she gets it she wants to be out there with me and want and or at least shares the same passions though I'm out doing these things she's like good for you I wish who's like gets that feeling that animals can bring to people or those those all aha moments out in wildlife that like she would never want to take those things away or I can be I'm just hoping I find someone in my space to be honest and hopefully I go on enough of these that she just pops up one day um because outside of that, like being here in my hometown or wherever I'm traveling, like it's going to be difficult.
Starting point is 00:25:01 But I don't close the door either, right? It's like, okay, well, I'm not ready. I can't give my time to somebody yet. But in saying like, okay, well, I'm going to stop dating. Well, I don't want to ever close that door. That'd be stupid. So I keep it open and hoping that someone just rips it wide open and gives me that feeling of like, okay, now I'm going to, you know, because it's a disservice to myself too
Starting point is 00:25:21 because I naturally want it. I want somebody. I, you know, I lay in this bed and I'm like, and he's watching a rom-com or whatever. I'm like, like, I haven't had that forever. Like, I love that. We all want it. But, and I would do myself a disservice to turn that off and be like, because I'm going to, you know, I love what I do. And it's, it's a, it's a, it's a challenge for sure.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Did Zach talk about his dating life at all with you? Ooh, why did I feel like you're going to go there? I didn't know it. knew it yeah good job Ashley um he yes and no to be honest i mean you probably see that you know i mean the rumors and all those things it probably plays into you know you see zach doesn't comment on all and any of those things he's just very nonchalant and the guy when i have asked he is very it's almost like you don't i don't want to tell you anything because then you get wrapped up in it and people know we're close so people are going to know that you
Starting point is 00:26:28 potentially know stuff and so when i ask you know i went to the new year's thing and all that stuff like yes do i know that they are hanging out and and have yes but he does not give me the guts because when i have asked he makes it awkward and so okay i'm just not going to go there again with you he just doesn't want to feed and play into that and he's just not he's all business and he's just he's not a very emotional guy with me in that sense but i think he also is in some way protecting me from whatever is going on on that he doesn't want me wrapped up in it because he knows that everyone knows we're tight and so that i don't i it's it's he makes it awkward to talk about so we just don't really talk about
Starting point is 00:27:24 professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the okay story time podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's
Starting point is 00:27:50 former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast
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Starting point is 00:30:37 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, one of the things that's admirable about Zach, too, is a lot of people go through this world and then they're looking left and right for the next headline. And yes, a lot of what he's doing right now could create some very spicy headlines, some headlines that would definitely attract people to have Zach's name on their computers or on their phones every day. I think the lack of his interest in creating a headline is something admirable. And I think it shows the authenticity and the genuineness to whatever connection exist. If it does, if it doesn't, you know, whatever comes up. I think that is something
Starting point is 00:31:20 that not a lot of people in this world invest into, but I think Zach's one of those guys, especially after talking about, hey, if I'm going to do this thing, it's not because it's going to make me more money or it's going to keep my name out there. Yes, exactly. He is, he moves with so much boys and just calmness and he's so happy in his own life and so wrapped up in trying to continue to help people through Lease Recovery Foundation and all this work that there's no there's no money aspect to this at all there's no ulterior motives to it and you know it's just it's just part of the course with that guy that's why he's just easy to be around in that sense because There's no other noise.
Starting point is 00:32:12 There's no other shit. You just get an actual true friend. The show stuff is just so, and the public stuff is so to the side. Yeah. He's just, you know what I mean? So it's nice because when I'm with him, I mean, as you probably both know,
Starting point is 00:32:28 once you've done this show and you're around, the other people have done the show, the show is like, just seems to be always part of the conversation. But Zach, I never, we never talk about the show. It's about, what he's doing, I'm doing the work. It's never show-based conversation, which is a really nice disconnect
Starting point is 00:32:48 because a lot of the times when I'm in these group settings, it is always about the show with this or that episode. And there's none of that with him, which is such a breath of fresh air. Okay. So speaking of the show, Ashley, I do have one question here. Speaking of the show,
Starting point is 00:33:02 speaking of love, speaking of some of our favorite people in the world, have you and Rachel ever made out? Oh, Rachel. This Rachel, the season we know now? No. Rachel Lindsay? No.
Starting point is 00:33:17 No, Lindsay for sure. Rachel who? No, Reckia. Rachel Recia. Oh, Rachel Rechia. Oh, my God. How did I not think of her first? They just went on a trip together.
Starting point is 00:33:27 We talked to Rachel about this. And this was, I think, pre-trip. And I see the two of them being really good together. And so I want to know, like, they spend time together. they're friendly they like each other has it ever been anything um oh my god they've totally
Starting point is 00:33:46 made I wish you guys could have seen his face I mean it's fine if they that's a great thing no and dude I I swear I'm a very much very much a book and I would just tell you if we have we legit have we legit but like maybe you're saving it
Starting point is 00:34:02 I would tell you if we if we did I would we are a bit like She's my go-to, she's my go-to, confident with anything on that front. Okay. Dating. Yeah. That leads in perfectly to my next question.
Starting point is 00:34:18 So your friends, you're close with Zach and with Rachel. Of all the three seasons you've done, the Tasha Claire, the Katie, and then Paradise, which cast would you do it all over again with? The first, the first one, Claire, Claire, Tisha. That was a good cast. It was the most, yeah. It was really good cast. the guys were awesome but you know it's
Starting point is 00:34:40 not to take away from katy's season and those guys there but you know when you do it for the first time it's exciting it's new it's different when you when i went back for kate's it's just like okay i've been this before the same excitement wasn't there on like the experience aspect the excitement was there for holy shit this is a really blossomed relationship that that excitement was there but the show experienced itself the first time in that cast and going through it with everyone is speaking of tasha and claris season um ben smith i don't know how close you were but did you see that Britney Spears posted a picture of him?
Starting point is 00:35:11 Someone said it to me. I remember, and I was like, I didn't. I was like you'd be like, what, how, what I don't understand. I still don't. I know he does some type of work in that space with like musicians and things. Oh, really? Yeah, he does. I know he does stuff with, oh, oh, oh, oh, DJs.
Starting point is 00:35:35 One of my favorites, I'm blanking on them hard. But like a big DJ, like a DJ that like is a household name sort of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He travels with things like that. Oh, so you're saying that it could just not be a random photo that Brittany posted from the internet. I don't, yeah, it could very well be that there's maybe some link there where he's helping. He helps with like not just mental health, but I think keeping people on track. So like, you know, not drinking and they'll do, you know, work together and workouts on the road and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:36:07 So I think he does stuff in that space. So there could be some, maybe he actually does work with her. I don't really know. Oh, appreciate that insight. I did DM him, no response, but also it didn't look like he read it. However, when he saw the first line of the message,
Starting point is 00:36:23 he definitely knew it was about and probably didn't open it. Yeah, hard to say, but it's not that random to me knowing that he was posted there because I know he's done space, working that space with other notable people before. all righty and then my last question for you is just you talk to just anymore yeah yes yes um she she and i have a it's a very just good healthy relationship um we have not explored it in a romantic um sense but i think yeah i mean it's it's an interesting
Starting point is 00:37:06 one right like there's a general curiosity there but i think no okay like i said all the things i've already talked about is what plays into like you know the potential i don't know okay blake you're close with kiley and we know that she had quite the breakup post the airing of bachelor in paradise we need i'd love to know more about this i know that nick had her on her on the podcast and we got some more details about that breakup and the cheating and all that that went down. Did. Would there ever be a thing with you two since we saw that you were so close in the show that we thought that you were going to make out when you got in the black car? No.
Starting point is 00:37:55 No. And Jess, Mercedes, and Kyle lived together now in San Diego. Oh, that would be a very sloppy situation. Very, very, very. not one that I have the mental capacity to handle or entertain in any way. And so, no, I mean, from Kylie's front, she wouldn't, and I wouldn't. And no, there's nothing, nothing there. But I'm seeing the rumors that the potential are back together or trying to make things work again.
Starting point is 00:38:23 I don't know. I've traveled so much that I don't, I just see the headlines. Do you not see them? Oh, okay. Sorry, as my eyes are bugging out. Well, last week, when we had Braden on, he heard that. that one of the paradise couples that had broken up were trying
Starting point is 00:38:38 to rekindle things. He teased this for us, didn't give any names. Avin and Kylie would have been the last, I would assume, would be rekindling. And Blake is giving us other information with his facial expressions right now. No, I honestly, I
Starting point is 00:38:54 would be surprised too. I think, obviously, when something like that happens, that's a big hurdle to overcome to try and rekindle and trust and all that stuff. So I'm with you. I would be surprised but I don't know my my my rumors are as good as your rumors who is the couple that you think could possibly get back together that's what's interesting like I really when I'm thinking about them I really that's the only one that I feel like was strong enough to begin with
Starting point is 00:39:26 enough to begin with to then you know we can't try to even right so because none of them else make sense to me that they would try to none stand out now that we're just on the topic I got to throw these names out for you what the heck happened with Aaron and Eliza because we saw that Eliza moved on fast that there's just
Starting point is 00:39:46 there wasn't even an acknowledgement of the ending of it was just she never even acknowledged him honestly on her social media yeah I know that's an interesting one I mean you know we talked there I have not talked to her since I just feel like she's really
Starting point is 00:40:01 disconnected and that kind of shows. Okay. Well, thanks for the dish. We really appreciate. I always like a little gossip, you know. I've got to throw it in there with the serious stuff. This has been another almost famous podcast. We have one of Bachelor Nations favorites, one of the names that continues to interest people, not only because of who he was on the show, but who he is outside of the show. Blake Moynes, thanks for joining us today.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Thank you for having me. It's great to be here. Thank you so much. Blake. All right. Until next time, I've been Ashley. and I've been Ben. We'll see you later, guys. Follow the Ben and Ashley I. Almost Famous Podcasts on IHartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
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