The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - A Divide In The Sister Wives with Meri Brown

Episode Date: September 13, 2025

In Part 2, "Sister Wives" star Meri Brown is giving Amy & TJ all details on where she stands with her former sister wives today, and what her thoughts are on Christine's new memoir that she's mentioned in! Does she want to get married again? Would she date a younger man? What kind of man is she looking for? Amy & TJ are covering it all!Email us at: [e-mail] or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He never thought he was going to get caught. And I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, got you. This technology is already solving so many cases. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back, everyone to Ido Part 2. It's your host, Amy and T.J. back in to our fascinating conversation with Mary Brown from Sister Wives. It's one thing to get divorced that's hard enough from one person, but you also got

divorced from your sister wives in a sense, too, or would it feel like that? How would you describe what that transition has been like? These are women who were your sister wives, who you lived with, who you worked with, and who, yeah, I mean, what, what's that relationship like? really interesting situation because each one of us need to and have the right to live our lives that is authentic to us and live in alignment to us, right? And for me, really embracing the fact and accepting the fact that what aligns with me is not everybody in my family. Right? It just doesn't. And it took me a while to really be able to come to a

accept that. I don't have to have relationships with everybody in the family, nor do I want to. There are some that I absolutely choose. I will not. It's not healthy for me. You know, it's, it's just not, it's not healthy. And so really just kind of embracing that is heartbreaking on a level, but also it's the best for me and it's the best for them too, you know, because I know some of them have I'm not healthy for them either right and and that's okay that's okay it just because we were in the same family doesn't mean we have to spend our whole lives together as best friends so you and christine are we don't talk now don't talk okay that's a much different from good is there have you but but there's like on my part I don't know about her on my part

there's no hate. I just don't choose to have her in my life. You know, it's just, it's not healthy and it's not safe for me emotionally. Will she agree that you're the same for her? Like you're not emotionally health and like, okay. Yeah, I think so. I think are just, because we just, we have had some really good times, but I think our values just don't align. I know our values don't align. There's certain things that I want and I need in a relationship and she absolutely doesn't have that. And I believe the same thing for her. She needs and want certain things in a relationship, and I don't have that for her. So for us, I think it's just best to just, I mean, we can be cordial to each other if we ran into each other. You know, it's not like we're going to scratch each other's eyes out or anything

like that, but we just, on a daily basis, we're not going to be in each other's lives. I tune in for that, though. I think a lot of people would. I'm kidding. I'm not advocating for two women going at it physically on a show. Obviously not. I want to ask, you have said this a couple of times about whether it's Cody, whether it's Christine, that your principles don't align anymore. But it sounds like some of you, certainly you and Cody, might have started with the same ones. Am I hearing right that maybe you have grown in a different place and you don't want to be where they are anymore? I'm not saying they don't have growth, but they steal some of their principles and being in religion and spiritual marriages. Did you just grow out of that community, or did they change in some way as well? I think that we all have changed in some way. And so our paths are just different.

Not one is better than the other. They're just different. And they just, like, it just doesn't work. It just doesn't work. And, you know, there was a lot of years that I thought, you know, where I was, like, separating myself from the religious structure. It's like, okay, I don't believe in the teachings. I don't believe in like that, whatever it is that they were promoting,

especially even in the polygamy aspect of it. But we're still a family. To me, it didn't matter the fact that we, however we came together, we are a family now. And even though I didn't believe in the church structure, I didn't believe that, well, just because we don't believe in that, we should break up a family. And so for me, I felt like, and I worked for a long time, And I think that Janelle and Christine did as well, you know,

weren't to make that family structure work. It's, you know, it's not healthy to be in a relationship where you're not loved, you're not valued, you know, when you're told that, you know, it was all a lie and that he never loved you and everything was fake anyway. You know what I mean? It's like, well, okay, then that's not good for me. Yeah, did Cody give you any reason to even want to say? If someone says not only was it a mistake, but I never loved you, that, that's,

kind of black and white like yeah what else would you do with that when he started saying those things that he never loved me and and you know it just like I'm like you know what I'm worth more than that and I'm not going to stay here just for the sake of we one time had a marriage you know what I mean do you believe that do you believe that he never loved you no I don't I think that he loved me to the best of his ability at that time. And I think that's one of the things that just changed and shifted. Yeah, I mean, it's, I can't even imagine like relationships are hard enough anyway, but you're bringing other people into the relationship, just the dynamics that that creates.

It does. It brings a lot of, you know, there's definitely a lot of dynamics. It's funny, so many people have asked through the years as we've done interviews or just, you know, random people on social media. I don't know how you can't be jealous. Nobody said I wasn't. Nobody said I wasn't. I've been very jealous.

I've had a lot of emotions. And I haven't necessarily handled my emotions the right way. Nobody does. Nobody does. You know, you do the best that you can in the situation that you're in. And when you, when you, what is it? When you know better, you do better, you know? And it's like, so like we don't, I'm,

didn't handle emotions correct. And I feel like I handle my emotions better now. Like I have tools now. Like if I need a scream, if I need, you know, I'm still going to scream, but it's going to be in my car alone rather than at somebody. You know what I mean? Yes, that is, that is healthy. That is healthy. That doesn't make the show sound as good now, Mary. No, it doesn't. It doesn't. I do. I try to bring the drama. So, no. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself.

My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear.

The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the Eye Heart. Art Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Power struggles, shady money, drugs, violence, and broken promises.

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Mary, I know that you're obviously aware that Christine just came out with a memoir. Have you read it? Are you going to read it? Any desire to read it? I have not read it, and I probably won't. I can't say that I lived it with her because my life experience was different than her life experience. Because of our different life experiences, even though they were in the same life, many of the things that she's, I'm sure, talking about, we had the same history. We had, we lived the same experiences. Our perspectives are completely different.

And so what she's writing about is her perspective on it. And it's 100% valid to her. You know what I mean? So I don't want to read it and be upset potentially at some of the things and be like, well wait a second that's not what happened because that wouldn't be fair because in my perspective it happened different or maybe there was a little bit of a shift or whatever right like even in this conversation that you guys are having with me right now you're going to walk away from this conversation even though we're both in it with a different perspective right you're going to remember different

key points because that's what's important to you about it and something else is going to be different and important to me about it. So when she and I had these experiences that were the same, we took something different from the experience. So it's valid for her, 100% valid for her. Mary, is this definitely a part of your growth? Do you think anyway, 19, 20, 21, 25, even 30-year-old Mary would be able to have a conversation about the guy she just divorced, and you were saying very kind things. He's not a bad guy. I believe he loved me. You didn't have a negative word to say. Christine, now writing a book in which she is expected to certainly bash you in some way, form, or fashion, but you even saying now that, you know what, that is her take, her perspective, and I respect it. What is that? And how can other people get there? Because that, I didn't know you before, but that sounds like a woman who has grown. Thank you. I really appreciate that. I really do. And it's something that, yes, I've had to grow into this part of me and really learn that part of it.

me and that part of humanness that our experiences are different even though there's the same they're different and just allow other people to have that experience right so yeah i do think that that is part of my growth i'm i'm curious yes congratulations on that what motivated you to grow what usually people i don't see a lot of times people hit rock bottom they get so uncomfortable that it's either stay and suffer or grow was there a moment like that for you where you had to make that choice? I don't know that it was one specific defining moment. Obviously, 10 years ago, everybody knows my dark moments in my life, right? So I had, I had some really dark time in my life, but it had been going downhill for a while,

like it had. And I guess we could say that was maybe my rock bottom and I needed to figure out how to get out of that. But I really started, I would say probably, five or six years ago, like, you know, I had a personal mentor and I started doing, you know, some business retreats and some personal retreats and just like figuring me out. And this is before I was even talking about divorce, right? And I just needed to figure out who I was, what I wanted to do with my life, separate from my marriage that had, for all intents and purposes, had been non-existent. But I wanted to make my life as full as I could.

And so I started investing in myself, like financially, education, reading. I don't read books. I audible books. So do I. Audible is so much easier. And I can multitask and drive and listen to a good book at the same time. And it's rarely a novel, right? Like I don't do novels.

I do like the personal development or the financial or the education, those kinds of things. Because I think that growth and learning is very important. And I've noticed that as I put more of that positive into my brain, then I'm more positive and I'm more, you know, like I have a better outlook on life. You look, you find what you're looking for. And if you're looking for the bad and the hate, and the anger and you know what I mean if you're looking for that you're going to find it you will find you will find it we just were talking about this yesterday that's why we're kind of nodded yeah I just I don't

want to find it like it's there and it's easy to come across I'm not going to look for it I'm going to look for the good you know the growth that you're talking about and you use that word investing in myself and you said even financially investing in yourself but we're human beings and we all have this no matter what, an inherent desire for companionship. How important is it? I know you said you're single, not, not dating anybody exclusively, but I know it's still pretty recent from your spiritual divorce. But right now, sitting here, how important is it to you to have a partner,

to have a life partner, a companion? It is very important to me. It's something that I want. I would love to have a companion, somebody that I can just, you know, shoot a text to or, you know, come home to it at the end of the night. and just have my person, but it's not so important to me that I will let go of myself to find it. So I just, I feel like that, that my person will attract to me when the time is right and when the person is right, you know, and I'm, like, I'm not going to just take

anybody. What advice would you have for a listener, not someone who finds himself starting over but someone starting out, you were 19 when you got married. You went through so much growth and you're a different person now. What would you tell somebody who's 19, 20, 21, 22, a young woman who was not quite done developing? What advice would you give or even warning signs, if that's what it called, but even encouragement maybe, to not be in a position to where you end up 40, 50, and go, ah, this is who I am and this is who I have grown into and now I'm starting over. You get what I'm saying? How can, or is it even possible, bro, you could tell me this as well. That's not how it works. You got to go through that hell. And maybe that's it.

You have to go through life. You got to go through it. You have to. You have to own it. You have to embrace it. And you have to, you have to choose to do it. You have to screw up. And you're, nobody's going to listen to any advice to anybody else. I mean, it's so true. It's a good point. But they have to, they have to live it. Like, people ask me all the time, do you regret marrying Cody? Do you regret polygamy? Do you regret TV show? Do you regret, you know, your sister wives? And 100% no, I don't regret any of it because I am who I am today because of those experiences. I might be a, I very well likely would be a different person. And I might have liked that person had I not gone through those experiences. But I will never know what that person would be without those experiences. but I really, really like who I am. And so 100% I don't regret those experiences because it made me who I am. So I think if we can look at our lives like it's just an experience and, you know, I was talking to somebody recently and she was like, yeah, but I don't know which decision to make

on the situation. And it's like, well, just make one. It doesn't matter. But what if I choose the wrong one? then you make a different decision after that. You're not going to know it's the wrong one until you do it and you get into it. And maybe neither of them are wrong. They're just going to take you on different paths.

Yep. It's just where are you going to go with it? What are you going to do with it? You get to a certain place in your life and it clicks. It all makes sense. I'm curious with the journey you had on sister wives. Did you get any lasting friendships like sisterhood? Do any of the sister wives and you have a bond that can't be broken?

How would you describe? Not right now. We don't. No, no one. No. Do you have hopes that that could change in the future? I am always open to healing relationships. I am always open to having the hard conversations because conversations are going to have to be hard,

especially in our family. If we want to move forward and heal anything and have any sort of relationship, they're going to have to be hard conversations because I have my boundaries now that I didn't used to have. And I think that's one of the things that some of the people in my family are recognizing about me that I have boundaries and I'm not going to lay over and be walked all over anymore. I've always had a very strong voice, but I know how to do. use it now. Always had a strong voice. We heard that about you. If somebody keeps telling us you're a lot, we heard it.

We heard it from you, Mary. So you're telling us you and Rob and you and Janelle, those relationships, you said not great now, but how much are we going to see any difficult conversations in the upcoming season? What do we see? I think we'll see some interactions and, you know, maybe a little bit of healing and maybe a little bit struggles, because, I mean, if we're not doing that, that we're not sister wives, the TV show. You know what I mean?

I don't last 15 seasons by having high tea. No, no, no, no. Conflict cells. That is for sure. This is true. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. From a very rural background myself, my dad is a farm. and my mom is a cousin, so like, it's not, like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?

I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?

A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Power struggles, shady money, drugs, violence, and broken promises. It's a freaking war zone. These people are animals.

There's no integrity. There's no loyalty. That's all gone. In the 1980s, modeling wasn't just a dream. It was a battlefield. Book, book, book. Like deals. Let's get models in.

Let's get them out. And the models themselves? They carried scars that never fully healed. Until this day, honestly, if I see a measuring tape, I freak out. The Model Wars podcast peels back the glossy cover and reveals a high-stakes scale. where survival meant more than beauty. Hosted by me, Vanessa Grigoriatus, this is the untold story of an industry built on ruthless

ambition. Listen to Model Wars on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Humanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency. Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD, oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free Iheart radio app. Search Emergency

Intercom and listen now. Hi, I'm Jenna Lopez and in the new season of the Overcover podcast, I'm taking you on an exciting journey of self-reflection. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a relationship? Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time? I wanted to be successful on my own, not just because of who my mom is. Like, I felt like I needed to be better or work twice as hard as she did. Join me for conversations about healing and growth.

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Available on the IHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast Do you want to get married again? I would love to get married, yes. I would but only to the right person that's for me. I'm not going, again, I'm not going to just jump into a marriage that just because I want to have a marriage, right?

Like, this person, like, we'll figure things out. We'll figure out if we're the right person, you know? Like, Cody and I jumped into our marriage really quickly. And, like, I knew him for two months at the time that we got engaged, and then we're engaged for four months. You know what I mean? Like six months from the time we met to the time we got married. I'm not doing that again.

I have a similar experience. Yes. And we were both child brides and grooms. So we get it. We get it. You just, you don't know what you don't know. Period.

Well, we were 23. I just want to clear that up. I think that for me, coming from a religious culture that really promoted and taught, you get married quick because, you know, I mean, that's the thing to do. You want to get married. and then you want to have all these babies, and then, you know, your exaltation is set. You know what I mean? And so that's really what they taught in our church culture, and that's not what I agree with now.

Mary, you said you wanted to definitely. You had a quick answer. Yes, want to get married again. So let us know. And on this, look, on I do part two, on this podcast, we have made some love connections. Now, I'm not saying we're going to put your number out there. Right. I too, huh? So, yeah. So what I'm saying is, Mary, you have an opportunity. I am curious, what are you looking for? What type of guy characteristics, background, height, whatever. What are you looking for? Okay. I'm looking for a very nice, charismatic man who's very confident in who he is, not cocky, but confident.

somebody who knows who he is, is successful in business, whether it's his own or he works for somebody. I don't care. Just somebody successful and matches my energy. Like I travel. He doesn't have to travel with me, but I would love for him to travel with me sometimes. But I would love for him to be okay if I have to go do work and be okay with me not around, you know? But also can cheer me on in my business building and my ventures and allow me to cheer him on in his as well. They don't have to be the same, but we need to support each other. She just described me perfectly in describing what she wants, except for the cocky and confident. I'm more cocky than confident. I'm cocky. That's where you lost me. Yeah, nobody would describe

me as confident. Now we know. He's cocky, but just the right amount of cocky. just enough to be like, that's interesting. Why is he so caught? Why does he like himself so much? Maybe I should find out. Would you, would you date younger? I highly suggest just having lived that. Okay.

You know what? My best friend is always telling me that it's okay to go younger and there's like a certain cutoff where it's. What's your cut off? Officially Cougar. I don't know. So I'm 54. I'm closer to 55 now that I am to 54.

but it's really weird for me to think about dating somebody who's 50. And that's only like four years. We have a four and a half year age. I'm four and a half years older than T.J. I'm 52 and he just turned 48. And it's weird, Mary. It's weird to be with a, yes. I can see how it would be.

No. Well, you say, I thought you were going to say like 38 or something. Yeah. Because you were talking about your. matched energy. And I will tell you, just from my experience, I've gone older, I've had the same. This is my first time with a young man. And our energies are very much aligned in a way that they weren't before. Okay. Well, you guys seem to have a good vibe. So that's cool. Maybe I'll be open to, you know, maybe four or five years younger. We'll see what happens. But I don't know,

a 40-year-old. We're only saying, don't be closed off to it. And it's true, you can meet some 38-year-old men who aren't even close to your youthful energy. It's possible. And then you meet a 55-year-old guy who could, you know, run circles around you. You never know. So just be open. You never know. So I'm definitely not like, I mean, you know, there's values and there's like the energy

and things like that that I'm definitely looking for. But I'm not like closing anything off. Like I'm open to options. So. I love that. I love that. And I will tell you, it freaked me out at first. too. He was laughing me. I was like, does it not, like, you know, you could absolutely date someone

10 years younger than you. And, you know, now you're going up almost five years. And so you start to think, but it did freak me out at first. It freaked me out too. It freaks me out nightly, to be honest with you. But no, Mary, we do a segment here, a thing we call love stories where we interview couples and just ask all of them the exact same questions. And it doesn't matter what their backgrounds are. You find this commonality in relationships. It would be an honor to one day, if we could get you back with your possible partner for that love story series. So just throw that out there. We'll keep an eye on you.

Yeah, keep your eye on me. When I get a partner, invite me back. Well, Mary, you know what? We really appreciate this. We know you obviously have lived a fairly open life, you know, in front of the camera and living a life that most people are curious about or even judge. So I just think it's awesome when you're willing to be vulnerable. and just say, hey, here's what I do, here's what I did, and here's what I learned.

So it does have an impact on so many people. So we're rooting for you. We are rooting. We always root for love. But we believe that there is someone out there for you, and you're going to find each other. I really do think that. So anyway, we're appreciating.

I know the people listening who are searching for love as well. The whole point of the podcast is for folks who maybe didn't get it right the first time, but are still walking that path towards love. So you fit that bill perfectly. And I hope you've inspired a lot of people who were listening today. So make sure to check out the new season of Sister Wives. It premieres on Sunday, September 28th, on TLC. And if you are trying to date for the first time in your chapter two, this is the podcast for you.

So you can call us. You can email us. All the info is in the show notes because we want to help you find your partner in life. So you can follow us on social media. Make sure to rate and review the podcast as well. I do part two, an I-Heart podcast where falling in love is the main objective. I'm Amy Roboc alongside T.J. Holmes. Mary, thank you.

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