The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - A Finale in Paradise Part 1

Episode Date: November 22, 2022

It’s the first installment of our Bachelor in Paradise finale party and not many couples went the distance. Ben and Ashley break down the final rose ceremony and which couples we’re the most hopeful for. Plus, find out which moment in the finale brought Ashley to tears and moved her more than anything else this season!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What's going on? Happy holiday week. Happy short week of work. I'm hoping. it is a short week of work, but it feels like it might be a heavy week of work, but it's okay. It's fine. I can't wait for Thursday to actually do nothing but hang out with my family and eat. And just to have like everybody share in the joy that is Dawson. Like I just want to be passed around to lap to lap and it'll be really awesome. It's his first like holiday.

You know what I mean? When I think of like holiday, I really just think of like Thanksgiving and Christmas and I'm excited to have that. Where are you celebrating Thanksgiving? Eastern. We're going to be at my parents for a whole week. I'm very excited. Oh, nice. Well, I can't wait to hear the stories of just Dawson getting to love.

Can he eat food yet? Like real food? Yeah. So he'll eat some stuffing and some potatoes. He's like supposed to put those types of soft solids in his mouth. I don't love it. But the pediatrician says, like they need to like kind of like learn how to eat and like use their jaw and stuff so very

small bites very mushy things my dad does he says not comfortable at all my dad's like purees or nothing so it'll be interesting to see yeah well a big week for generous Ashley oh why is that we launched our new art bags today they're four nonprofits oh they're so pretty yeah they're getting four nonprofits they all design their own bags and the profits from each bag being bought will be donated to the individual nonprofit. So I'm ready to be done with work, honestly. I love generous. But I am ready to like close the computer on Wednesday night and say, hey, I've got a long weekend ahead of me. That's exciting for me. That is exciting. But let's give them a preview of what we have here at the almost famous podcast this week before Thanksgiving Day.

Okay. We have interviews with Johnny. Oh my goodness. A very long, in-depth interview with Johnny, which we've already recorded. It's fantastic. You guys are going to get all the answers. Would you say fantastic is the way? Would that be the word you do? No. It's heartfelt.

It's raw, honest, vulnerable. No holds bar. So you guys will get, yeah, seriously, I think that the reunion leaves you with some questions and you'll get them all answered on that podcast. I think so too. Then Ben and I are going to recap both these episodes, starting with this episode that you're currently listening to,

and another one. tomorrow and then we also have happy couples coming on. We don't even know who we're getting, guys. This is The Bachelor producers being a little sly, but we have interviews with happy couples coming. So stay tuned for all those episodes. It's going to be a big week here at the Almost Soonest podcast. It is the ending of Bachelor in Paradise.

Some are thrilled that this show is over. I would say I'm not. actually here's why I love watching the show I just don't love watching four hours of it every week I don't want it to end because I enjoy the content

I do want it to end because I'm tired of watching four hours so that like I wonder if maybe next season it'll be back to like one episode a week you can plan it out we've always had two episodes oh have we always had two episodes a week I don't know we've had seasons

or we have two episodes but four hours is very long for 10 weeks very long it's not usually this many weeks it's not always been this many hours a week i remember my season it was twice a week but it was two hours than an hour on tuesday which does make a world of a difference yeah so i am excited for it to end uh but i also am sad at's ending because i thought this season uh had some really great moments i thought some episodes were slow because it was 10 weeks long um but let's jump in to breaking down the very first episode of this week

leading up to the very finale of Bachelor in Paradise. Okay, I'm going to set the scene really quick. This is the stupid rose ceremony that we have every year, and I don't know why we don't eliminate it, because this is the rose ceremony where people give each other roses, and then the next morning they wake up and break up with each other. Just do that here. It does happen every season.

Do they know, Ashley, you know from behind the scenes, do the contestants know this is the last, like, rose ceremony, or are they are they not aware yet they i think you know i i i felt like i knew well you're also you're also like a little strategist like you knew you know the behind the scenes and you're thinking now yeah back then i was in season two and three so it wasn't exactly protocol yet but now it's protocol it's too predictable and it's time for them to make people make decisions that night. Okay. Well, then

all the roses are given out. Wells does a little segment at the beginning, which is very cute and nice. Filler, though. Yeah, definitely. But it's rehearses what's happened over the season. Michael gives his rose to Danielle, big shocker. Brandon gives his rose to Serene, big shocker. Johnny gives his rose to Victoria.

Big shocker. Tyler gives his rose to Brittany. Aaron gives his rose to Genevieve. When are they going to break up? We'll find out soon. Joey gives his rose to Chanel. And here's the interesting one that we got to talk about. Logan gives

his rose to Kate, but Kate says no. And again, to me, and you're a massive fan of Kate, and I can say I'm not a fan of Kate. I find her to be good TV. Okay. Well, at what point, Ashley, does good TV become really mean?

Because... This was mean. This was mean. And again, she makes him feel like a child. Yeah. Like... Yeah, no. is all really sad she goes

I know what I want and it's not this and she just said like a whole bunch of other mean things like she's like those projections that you say about me they're actually you

like all this shit you talk about me it's your shit and maybe I'm crazy and I've just like not watched all the episodes and I have but I really have

I think I've watched 95% of them I've never if anything I've seen Logan confused I've never seen him saying anything that brings her down. Yeah, yeah, I know.

Like, has there been those moments? No. If anything, he usually just like kind of seems lost. Well, because she comes at him in these moments. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. He's like lost searching for where she came up with what she just said. Yeah. So she throws it back on him.

Hey, these are projections. of you, I'm going, no, you cannot live in that and, you know, that's not okay. But then she leaves and she like pretty much pieces out. And he's just standing there like, wait, I thought this was something. And now she's pretty much non-emotional, non-apologetic, being like, hey, you're the, like she made him feel like the worst dude in the world. And I'm wondering where did, like, why? I don't know. She's just a nut. And then at the end, she says, I want a guy with a big and it bleeps it out. And I'm assuming I know what she's saying like, you know, a big heart. And also, you know what? They bleeped it out. But they could have, she could have said wallet, which would be more on par for Kate. Well, she did say big bank account. So. Yeah. So the first part was, I'm going to find a man or I don't find a man with a big bleep and a big bank account. Why would they bleep heart? That feels like a very nice word. very funny then okay so beyond kate we there's like no surprises in that rose ceremony the next morning

it's time for the couples to have that serious chat do we leave paradise together or do we not leave the paradise together but see normally at this time they're basically not allowed to leave as a boyfriend and girlfriend couple, they have to either break up or they have to get engaged, or, you know, they have to be on the road to engagement, you know? Okay.

I think the, I think the conversations were a little bit more steered in the direction of, can we have a serious relationship outside of paradise, but are we ready to get engaged this season, which was refreshingly real? I think that they did that because, like, look at Becca and,

Thomas and look at Noah and Abigail both two couples that may have had I may have not been ready to break up last paradise right but then broke up because the protocol because the model and then they got back together and they've been happy couples for the past year and now an engaged couple with Thomas a Becca so why should we make couples break up a they're not ready to break up. That's just absolutely ridiculous. So I'm really excited to see people continue in the real world, including, or, you know, including Brittany and Tyler. And then I guess the only other couple that left as a couple, but not engaged in this moment, is Danielle and Michael. And we're also happy for Danielle and Michael.

How sweet is this? Yeah. It did feel like this season more than any other season. in couples were talking about like almost like the forced engagement yeah i think so does that make sense yeah and i'm really glad that now there's not that pressure to get engaged i just think that like this show in general is seeing that like maybe it's healthier for these people to date outside the show before getting engaged and and our track record of engagements isn't that great lately So let's just get as many strong relationships as possible.

Yeah. All right. Ashley, I want to dive in here to some of the couple's conversations the next morning. Obviously, Brandon Serene, as much as I'd love to see more of them, I also don't really need to talk about them

because we kind of know what they're going towards. So it leads us to Tyler and Brittany, another couple on the beach that feels very strong, but we just don't have seen. just feels very strong. Well, we have no idea why. Right? And so they, they have a conversation then.

It's really weird how they do this on Paradise. And I kind of want to bring clarity to it. You know, it felt like Michael waited a long time to talk to Danielle. Is there like a staging room? Like, okay, it's now it's your turn. Now it's your turn. Now it's your turn. Yeah.

It's awkward and nerve-wracking. And you truly just go to like the girl's room and then like a lounge for the guys. And you just wait until one of the. couples is sent to go and pick up the other. Yeah, okay. So, like, it's not like Michael's just chilling on the beach being like, I don't know why I haven't talked to Daniel all day.

No, you're sequestered until it's your turn to talk. Yeah, that makes sense. And I think that's good for people to know because if not, it brings kind of the wrong message. Yeah. You know, maybe they're thinking through things. So Tyler and Brittany are first. Tyler mentions he's not ready for an

engagement, right? He's not, But they want to try this out. Yeah, but okay. So here's my take. Okay. We're supposed to think they're serious. And they say I love you. So obviously they are serious.

But there is something blatantly missing. I feel nothing. And I told you last week that I was like really protective over Brittany. So like maybe it's just me like that Brittany like deserves a branded and serene type feeling around her. Yeah. But I just don't feel it. So Joey and Cheney then talk This is

hilarious This is like a week one relationship in paradise that somehow has made it to the end to start talking about engagement We just had Joey and Justin on the podcast It felt like from that show That they were still together

I would have said yes They made it work They're figuring it out But no Joey and Sheney talk This conversation Ashley Yes I think a great word to describe It would be hilarious

She got pointers from Kate She and Kate talked before this. She's like, I'm looking for a real man who doesn't make TikToks and dances on social media. I don't want to be a fun, cool, and I want to be someone's, you know, wife. Oh, it was really funny. And we know from last week that Justin and Joey do take themselves really seriously. They take themselves really seriously. They don't want to be thought of as these young guys who live with their parents.

But they're young men who live with their parents. so I mean but like at the same time and just and enjoy your good friends of the podcast this like if I'm them and if I ever had the advice to give to them and I think probably a lot of guests or listeners out there are saying the same thing own it like who cares yeah you're in a time you know you live with your parents your mom you know makes the great sauce that you're talking about and you guys get to hang out and do your thing and you're making it work who you know you're going to find somebody that's maybe in on that but don't like don't try to argue your way out of it.

But at the same time, Sheenay was really mean. Yeah, she was. And it was kind of out of left field or right field, whatever they say. Left field. Yeah.

Like she pretty much told him he's not a man. And, you know, the day and age we live in, like one of the things that you can do to really hurt somebody is be like, you're not who you are. Yeah. You know how I,

what I feel like went down. And she was like, I don't know what to do. she's like obviously I'm not going to like marry this guy and then a producer was like did you know that he makes TikTok videos like all day long and then she was like let me show you my phone and then Chenay saw TikTok and she's like all right I'm ready to go talk yeah well screw that if I could figure out a way to make so much money on TikTok no of course no shame in the game it's my game yeah I was gonna say don't hate on those people that's like a very

that's like a cheat code in this world is the in the TikTok and Instagram world you can like cheat code your way through it and make a lot of money dancing on TikTok so yeah you know and be at home most of the day so that relationship ends not a big shocker Justin tells Florence

hey he's done they both the contrast and the breakups is also hilarious so I don't think that we should be together and pursue this relationship outside of Paradise and she goes yep I think so too let's hug it out goodbye it was two

minute conversation yeah I mean you had to know it's coming I mean if these two ended up engaged at the end of the show I would be floored like I would celebrate it but I didn't see I mean it would be wild have you have you ever

seen anybody coast like Florence did through this season that's a good question about two or three sentences spoken was on for about eight episodes yeah she got all the she got all the gifts and all the goodies without the drama and without the um the screen time yeah yeah

no you're right that was that's a pretty good move she did it well she found her fun fact fun fact jerry jared um he i think he may have gone on a date with her in bachelor in paradise australia this was like the last chapter of jaron and my life in which we weren't together and he didn't give her a rose he instead left and said like i'm i'm i'm leaving without giving out my rose because I don't feel it with anyone. So she was no longer able to continue in the competition.

I was hoping you said he fell in love and then we'd really get into some stuff here. No. He just denied her a rose. It's pretty good. That's fine. Yeah. Hi, my name is Enya Emanzor.

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We've excused it with passion and romance and love. And at this point, it is. Like, you know, you have to prove if this relationship's going to work or not. And it isn't. And Ashley, I'm kind of surprised because I felt like they made it through so much and they fought so hard. I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not. Wait, we've for weeks now tried to explain this relationship.

This is where I'm coming from. I'm only learning from the conversations with you. For weeks, we've tried to explain this relationship as passionate. And it's one of those relationships that fight and make love hard and forgive easy and they move on. Yeah, those relationships never last in the end. I think they're like a Tom and Giselle. I feel like Tom and Giselle was like this behind closed doors for years. of course you would figure out a way to reference Tom Brady

okay so you're telling me for weeks now you've just said no this relationship is never going to work I've always thought you're on the side of this relationship has some some foundation some substance to it it certainly has passion and I and lust and heat and I like that I like to watch those relationships but I don't think that it's necessarily a healthy relationship and I don't think

that it was one to last long because I think when you have problems like they did early on they don't go far problems like I've had like with Jared like there's like that's different kinds of issues that like grow together nicely when you literally buttheads every day about stupid things like that and then the stupid things grow into bigger things like they're just no just those those relationships suck yeah that makes sense I mean I I couldn't live in that relationship. I thought... Me neither.

Walking on eggshells every day. Yeah. I thought it was something. Well, okay, so let's dive into the breakup then. Do you feel like this was at all a healthy breakup? Do you... No? Okay.

Do you... I thought it was, again, a little bit entertaining. Because the first one, so it was edited, seems as if Genevieve didn't say, a word. Aaron told her that they're breaking up and then he's like you look beautiful today I wish you nothing but the best

and you're a great friend at the end of the day so many things there so many things. Oh this phrase nothing but I wish you nothing with the best so passive aggressive for these episodes and I think that Aaron really thought that by saying she looked beautiful he was covering all of his basis.

Like, I thought he'd be like, oh, no, she'll walk away from this being like Aaron's a good guy. He said, I look pretty. No. Uh, don't work. It didn't work. It didn't fit with Genevieve. She's too fiery. Yeah.

Yeah. So I guess are you, uh, okay, can I ask you this then? Are you happy this relationship ended? No, because I like them, you know, I liked them both while. paradise very much and you know i've stayed in touch with jenevieve and she's so awesome and so i want so i wish them nothing but the best and i really do you know i really want jenev to be happy you are a passive you are the passive aggressive one but like i think for each other's happiness in the long run it's probably best they didn't continue yeah i will say um it was

I don't know what I was going to say, to be honest. Yeah. What you're going to say is you wish him nothing but the best. Nothing but the best. Jeez. Unbelievable. So like she goes up there and she's like, I think that he just basically blamed me for all the issues. And then they're like, you got to go back down there and say you blamed me for everything.

You didn't take part in any of the blame. And then she came back down there and actually said her words. And his whole thing was like, you run and you like, pass. your bags when things get bad, which is a point, but it certainly wasn't as a one-sided as that. I'll tell you this. And I've been able to be with Genevieve a few times. There's very few people from this franchise that I, and this might not be good, but I enjoy being around Genevieve so much, but I also enjoy laughing at Genevieve so much. Does that make sense? Yeah. And it And it's so endearing.

It is. It doesn't mean that I don't think, like, I, I, I know her to be a, like, confident, strong, intelligent human. But, like, some of the stuff she says and the way that she reacts. I think it's her reactions that make me laugh. Yeah, that's her reactions. Yeah. Because they are so immediate and, like, out there. I remember in Las Vegas when I was with her, I had to be like, Genevieve, stop.

Like, I barely know you. You cannot yell at me. Like, you cannot get on. my case like we have you have no basis for this she said you're right you're right I can't yet um I just think she's like a blast and she's going to make a man so happy and she's going to be so happy but this wasn't it it wasn't it and paradise was not for her and Aaron was not her partner for life but we got to watch a lot of them and it was good television and I'm glad it lasted as long as it did but it was best for them to break up which now leaves us with my

Michael and Danielle. Michael and Danielle are going to leave the beach. But this scene between the two of them, Ashley, I'd love for you to walk through. Oh, okay. So they're waiting a long time to talk to each other. And when they finally do, Michael says that he didn't know what to expect from paradise and that for the longest time, he felt lost and numb. And since Laura passed, he had difficulty giving and receiving love. He starts crying. And then I saw cry, actually. No, I didn't cry now. I cried another part with them. Okay. But there are tears to be shed because it's such a beautiful moment here and every time they, you know, they grace our screen. So Michael says that his goal is to eventually introduce Danielle to James when the time is right. And he's just really hopeful for their future.

And Danielle says that she's so excited to meet James. but she also respects the boundaries there and never wants to step in. Yeah, and then she says also, you know, she points out that there are their losses, you know, the loss of her former fiancé and Laura were both very different because she sees that with Laura, it was just like the happiest, warmest space. You know, like that was like a wonderful, great fulfilling love that was full of respect. but they are ready to leave together and to see how their life works outside of paradise I got this feeling for a while I think that both of them are bursting at the seams

to be like I absolutely love you like you are they didn't do it they didn't do it but I just get this feeling that there's like some hesitancy and some wisdom and their patience and saying I know why no I know why I'm not, yes, I have watched one episode this season.

Sorry, I just don't want it to be overlooked because that's always been a big thing with me and Michael. Like, I've never wanted him to like say it because he's on TV and like, feel some sort of pressure or be in a bubble and say it and then not really like, look back and not really mean it. So I'm kind of glad that he's delaying this. I love you thing. A hundred percent, but what I'm saying behind the scenes is if we were to read into it is that both of them are like bursting at the seams. like this is love like up there with the brandon serines um there's something deep here going on there's something very special here going on and uh and that's exciting for me i've gotten to speak with michael many times in the last year and he's just an incredible dude um and so i i mean i think

i think they're going to make it like as i sit here today and say i think these two are legit And that excites me. I know. I think we have two marriages coming from this season. What a cool story. You know, he finds love on the Bachelor, on Bachelor in Paradise.

Right. Yeah. I mean, how crazy is that? And that would be a reason for him to have never been The Bachelor. Do you know what I mean? Because I think we've both been upset that he wasn't The Bachelor. Yeah. And, well, maybe it wasn't meant to be

because maybe he was supposed to do it this way. Well, I will tell you this. This is special. This is awesome. It is something to celebrate. I know there's some issue still with, you know, Sierra and his past relationship

in paradise. But this is something to celebrate, like where he's at now. All right, Ashley. We're moving on then from the initial conversation. we have the breakups that have been left and you've been on the beach in these moments before you know what it's like it's quiet space it's a quiet time there's only really two couples

left on the beach i actually can't imagine it being that quiet and so two couples are they still living in the like on paradise or have they moved to the dants at this point because i feel like staying with like two dudes and two girls in this massive resort would be a little creepy. It feels weird. Yeah. I'm going to go ahead and say that they probably left after the dinner and went to Vindonta.

Okay. That makes sense. But I don't know. Maybe. I don't know. Those boo-boom rooms weren't used. Bachelor Data actually had a post about this. The boo-boom rooms like were never referenced this season outside of me and Jared. You were farting. I never brought it up

to you. Why did they air you farting? so much. Why do you think it's like good TV? Or is it? Or is it? Are you doing that nightly? Like are you blowing the sheets out? Like not to make it a thing, but like if I got a fart, I got a fart. Yeah, like there's no, like you don't think twice. I prefer to not do it with around Jared, of course. But like

if really lying in bed, yeah, I'll probably do it. But he's probably asleep next to me. Yeah, he's a tired boy. You know, he's not, like, blowing the sheets up, you know? They stay underneath. It stays down there. Yeah. Well, so the boom boom room was never touched because Ashley and Jared left their mark on that thing. I farted all over it.

Yeah. And they christened the boom boom room this year. Nobody else did. But then Johnny and Victoria, Brandon and Serene go to a beautiful dinner together to kind of just recap this season and take a step into the next day. the fantasy suites then come up. And there's not a lot to talk about when it comes to the fantasy suites

other than the fact that they both seem to go well. And they both seem to lead these couples into a place of engagement. Well, Brandon and Serene's, holy moly, I know I say it every week, but this man is so romantic and so in love with this girl. I'm not saying that like it's not completely mutual.

It's because Brandon, I don't know why I say that, Brandon is so expressive. He's crying, he's showering her with compliments. He's in total disbelief that he has this woman in love with him too. Because she's beautiful. Like, I mean, look at her. She's stunning. Yeah. She's so striking.

It's, and by, you know, don't need a stitch of makeup or anything like that. It is just the cutest thing how he can. not get over his love for her and this bliss that he's in. I know it's mutual, but I'm sorry. You see girls just gush like this all the time. It's rare that you see a man just lose it emotionally the way that he is with her. Oh, that's not true. We're softies. Oh, come on. I know, but he's just too cute. No, he's cute. He's in love. He's too cute. He's in love. And it makes sense that the two of them would connect on the beach and be this season's love story and I'm happy for

them. Victoria and Johnny they... Don't tell me you feel okay about them. I mean, you don't because of the spoilers. So, spoilers are out there, so everybody watches Johnny and Victoria through different lenses.

You're right. I can't feel great about them because of the spoilers. Like, I can't. So that, yes, that would add to it. I also just feel like there is a they're like a really good boyfriend girlfriend um at this point like engagement feels quick and weird still to them they they feel like a new boyfriend and girlfriend to me yeah maybe that's

it the talk of engagement feels really weird for me it does but they go to fantasy suites and it feels like it goes well and that's kind of where this episode ends um yeah everybody's gonna have their behind-the-scenes conversations leading up to tomorrow's episode, which will be the engagements and the reunion and the finale. But at this point, all we know, if we take the spoilers out of it would be that these couples are doing well. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I just want to say one more thing about Johnny and Victoria. Yeah. Because as I said at the top of the show, we have Johnny. So there are moments in this fantasy suite part that I feel like a lot of you guys are maybe thinking about like the fact that he said that he hates himself. We're going to address that with Johnny.

Yeah. And we're going to address any hesitance that Johnny has getting engaged with Johnny. Yeah. But he's not alone in that thought. Let's just be clear. He's not alone in the thought of like being your worst critic and really meaning it when he says it. So you've got to tune into that episode where he speaks about that and where he's trying to go with that. Well, Ashley, we do have headlines. We have a few really exciting headlines to speak about. So let's take a break. When we come back, we're going to give you all the juice that's happening.

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Ashley, I'm throwing up, I'm miserable, I'm pregnant. And then I got to see her in Vegas a couple weeks after that. So it's been fun talking pregnancy and how Ms. that can be, but how wonderful, of course, the outcome is. So I'm excited about these two. they did not hold back after that wedding. I think she got pregnant like a cycle or two

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I don't believe that they just like to stir the part. No, I don't hear. We like what's going on. I love it. I see that this is a, I see this is a potential couple. So Vinnie from Jersey Shore and Gabby, of course, are on Dancing with the Stars. They apparently want to stir the pot and pretend like they're flirting with each other. Pretend like they're flirting with each other. Yeah, right.

They're flirting. You don't just pretend. No. And it's on Instagram underneath comments. Like he says, like, doing well, baby or whatever, something like that. This is the official quote from her on Chicks of the Office, the podcast. Apparently, both of us just like to stir the pot, which is like, funny, but the rumors

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Let's date. Come on. Bachelor Nations, Blake Hortzman, asks Love is blind, Gianina, to move in with him. This according to Eon Online. They've been together for a year and now they officially broke the news on Instagram on November 19th that they

are moving in together. Blake says she's officially a Colorado girl now and then she says honey, I'm home. All this of course on Instagram. She said he officially asked me to move in and I immediately took over the closet. Oh, let's go. All right. Ashley, next week we have Genevieve on the podcast. It's going to be a big episode. And we may just ask about this last headline. I don't even know if there's any explanation needed. But here's the headline. Bachelor in Paradise is Erin Clancy accused of cheating post-Genevieve split

details to come. Maybe right here on the Almost Famous podcast from Genevieve herself. Yep. She's willingly going it to dish the dirt. There's been cheating allegations from two unnamed women. So we're going to find out about it because it was not,

we'll say this, it was, it has, it's not addressed on the reunion show. My goodness. What's up with these dudes? Come on. I don't know. Keep it clean. All right.

Well, hey, that's all we have for you today on the Almost Smith podcast. We broke down the first episode of this week. We'll be back tomorrow, breaking down the second episode of this week. We'll also. have, as Ashley said, the happy couples from Paradise on the podcast, along with Johnny, an in-depth episode with Johnny. You've just got to stay tuned. The holidays are building up.

You have a lot more time on your hands. Just keep clicking play on almost famous podcast. We're not going to disappoint you. At least we'll try not to. But until next time, I haven't been. I've been Ashley. See you tomorrow. Bye. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, Almost Famous Podcast on IHart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Eumanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD, oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free Iheart

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