The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - A Golden Gentleman with Nancy Hulkower (The Golden Bachelorette Week Five)

Episode Date: October 17, 2024

Ashley is joined by Golden Bachelor star Nancy Hulkower to recap this week’s episode of The Golden Bachelorette!  Nancy has a LOT of insider knowledge and gives Ashley some hints about how things go for Joan by the end of the season.  Ashley shares why she thinks a drama storm is coming, and we discuss what a “Golden Bachelor in Paradise” might look like!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Well, Nancy, we are here to talk about this episode that is very crucial because it's the one in which Joan decides who's going to hometowns. This is where the Golden series feels too fast for me. I'm like, you've got on one date with each of these guys, which I guess is typical on the main show, but I just feel like you have a few more weeks of group dates and such. And she's going to go meet these guys' families. Who did you predict or did you know?

I'm assuming you're totally spoiled because you, the Golden Ladies, more than any other, I feel like you guys are bonded in a way that all the news travels very fast yes okay so you knew these guys that were coming so did you watch the season differently knowing this no i really i i didn't know until more recently but i thought that we would that there might be i knew like the final four you know and then i knew there was some really close connections. But last night was different. But I did think that it would be Guy, actually. So do you thought that guy was going to be sticking around or you thought that he would be a little bit? I thought he was going to be sticking around. I thought they had a connection.

He did. I know. And Pascal. Yeah. And I don't know. I just didn't see knowing they had a connection on their one-on-one dates like with Guy. Now I understand what I didn't see yeah I didn't see the connection me neither Joan said we have a connection I have connection with several of them which I think she did but it wasn't visible to me other than chalk okay so same I can feel it a little bit with Jordan and that and with Pascal I think that there is something intriguing about him to her I am shocked if you were to go back to the first episode and tell me that Pascal is getting a hometown. I'm like, wow, they did not seem like compatible based on first impressions.

I think he's hilarious and I like I love him as a character. But yeah, I didn't. So fun to hang out with, right? Yeah, yeah. But Guy is the shocker to me in this group. And I really thought he would be replaced by Jonathan. Really disappointed to see Jonathan go. Me too.

Yeah. He was one of my favorites, actually. Yeah. Yeah, but I also sensed on their date a couple weeks ago that she just wasn't fully present with him. Mm-hmm. I also felt that way last night with Keith and Mark. With Keith and, oh, I mean, Keith and Mark, clearly she had, she didn't have a romantic connection with. Uh-uh.

No. At all. No. Then she said, I love you, Mark. Well, she's been saying, I love you a lot, like as humans, you know. She was saying that Charles last week. right so i remember them teasing that you know in the scenes from the next episodes that she said i love you mark and at a certain point in the season when i wasn't seeing them click was thinking

i bet you that's one of her platonic i love you's yeah yeah well let's get into the episode a little bit so first trista is having a coffee chat with her so we actually have trista on the podcast to give all the insight that she experienced with joan so that's going to be in a separate episode also aired today. So if you want to hear about, you know, the real behind the scenes of the coffee chat and what Trista picked up on, make sure to listen to that. So let's skip on to Keith's one-on-one. It's the day card says, I want to love that gets better with age, love Joan. Mark is obviously disappointed that he's not going to get the one-on-one. And at this point, I'm like, oh my gosh, is he not going to get a one-on-one? Are they going to, like, do one of

those spin situations on us where somebody gets two dates instead of marketing one. But I'm glad. I'm really glad that he got the one-on-one eventually. On Keith's date, there's not a lot to take away from. She was obviously very emotionally shook by the fact that the couple who owned the winery was married for 32 years, and that's how long she was married for. I knew the second they said 32. I was like, and she couldn't keep it in. And I'm glad, I mean, obviously, you shouldn't keep it in. How would you've reacted in a situation? like that? It probably would have. Of course it's going to be brought up that your former husband, you know, you're married this long, you're still thinking about it. But what I was hoping with

this season, especially last episode and tonight's episode or our episode is that they would be moving forward in a hopeful, like not concentrating on, oh, I lost my wife. I lost my husband when he and I were married. We did this. There seems to be more concentration on discussing these things. So it's sad. Yeah. More sad or that's that was what I took away from it.

Do you think that she thinks about him more when she's on a date with somebody who maybe she's not connecting with, obviously, like Keith? Yeah. Yeah. Like I don't know that she would do that on a date with, say, chalk. Talk. Yeah. True. But they've talked about it. And I guess in this season, they go on more one-on-one dates

than in like on our show. They have many one-on-one dates, right? Wait a second. On your show, did you have mostly group date, one-on-one group date? Yes. Oh, see, I enjoy watching one-on-one dates better. What about you? Well, absolutely, because then you at least get to know the person. You get to know them as a little more as a couple and how they interact. They did six one-on-ones, which was great. He still didn't get a takeaway last night,

or tonight, for Keith. We didn't get, we don't know, do you know anything else about Keith other than his wife was an addict and he stepped up and took the kids? Now, what did stick out to me about this? Was that the girls haven't seen their mom in over 12 years?

I know. Wow. I know. So that's like even more intense that I would imagine. He really has been a single parent. Joan's very compassionate and that comes across. But it's like they were stuck on that and it was hard to move forward or they didn't move forward and end like on a hopeful, you know, it wasn't progressing. Yeah.

I again think that she talks about the past as a conversation topic when she's at a. she's just stuck and not connecting. Yeah, it's easy to, like, tell your, you know, go back and tell your story rather than talk about, like, things you're into today because that's just, that needs to roll. That's a conversation that rolls instead of, it's just different. Okay, so we leave that Keith date pretty much thinking, eh, Keith's probably not getting a hometown.

But he did recover from last week where he just rambled and then word salad. I know that was that. You can at least leave feeling like he revealed himself better. Yeah. Okay. So on the group date, they go to Lucky Strike. And the standout here is that Chalk is stealing Joan away a lot, which, you know, we always have a storyline on some day, on some season that somebody is like hogging time.

You guys can always butt in. You know, it's just like you can always be like, okay, my turn. It's fine. That's like what you're supposed to do. But the guys were like, he should be respectful enough to share his time. I was like, you know, I don't know. That's not how the show works. You can go up to, you can go up to, but I did.

They could have elbowed their way in. Exactly. Yeah. They thought, though, that her body language was all like cuddled up to him. I thought her body language said, no, thank you. I agree. She was sitting, you know, like with her arms crossed over her knees. Yeah.

I totally agree. I didn't, she wasn't leaning in. He was around her. His arm was around. Exactly. Yeah. And her back was towards him. It was all off. I think she felt uncomfortable him doing that in front of the other guys. Preacher, that's why her bi-language was off because we obviously know that she likes him from what we think the most. From what we've seen. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly. And now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.

This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating.

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Listen to these women and more on She Pivots, now on the iHeartRadio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts i thought it was also weird that he said like so what side of the bed do you sleep on like so rare and come away with me or i'll take you away yeah or like can i have you now or whatever that is i was like okay cute but also like you get in a little position I thought he was a little overbearing yeah in in the just in the episode last night but I think gosh I wish I had a guy who was doing that to me like who really you know he's going after it yeah he's he's making serious moves to to get there yeah I think totally agree all right so on

mark's one-on-one I went into this just thinking that it wasn't going to happen for the two of them I thought this was maybe going to be the day in which she, like, had to let somebody go on the date. I think, of course, the only reason she didn't do that was because, one, she didn't have a rose. So she didn't have to make that decision right then and there. Right. And secondly, I don't think she was going to, like, dump, like, dump him after their conversation about their, you know, late spouses. Right. I also wonder if because it was Kelsey's dad.

Yeah. Just the thought. he got some benefits because it was helped Kelsey's dead she didn't want to embarrass him maybe you know definitely could be that ceremony just because it is Kelsey's dad I think that there's like lots of dates in which moments of silence that we saw between the two of them happen I don't think that's in Bachelor world I don't think it's super awkward I think that they end up showing those moments on on dates that they want you to feel like it's awkward you know what i mean because they're like nine-hour dates there are going to be sometimes pauses especially when you're like on a speedboat

no kidding it was before they're on the yacht i feel like and then it was just like loud and it's just not a time to have a really full-blown conversation true true so they're going to make it feel awkward on there for nine hours probably not on the golden ones because they seem to be like part you know how on the regular show there's like usually a daytime part of the day and then a nighttime part with the golden it seems to only be like one half of that so they're probably like four hours because we get tired early and you may be right about that could be could be but again i just didn't i didn't feel i felt bad for both keith and mark and they're both great guys But no, there wasn't a connection.

And I feel like one good thing that I took away with, took away from the episode was that they, going forward, they're happy for Joan. They want her to find love. And I think they've hopefully grown in their own skin. Oh, yeah. And are ready to go forward. I was just hoping everything would be a little more. uplifting. Especially for Mark. He really used this as a catapult into what could be a new life for him.

He was just, I can't get over the sweetness. I mean, is he not just the definition in the dictionary of like perfect gentleman? Yes, he's adorable. He's like the perfect combination of masculine and then also has like that open emotional side. He's not afraid to show love. Oh, he loves so hard. He's just like such a gentle, gentle man. Yes. And you can see, you can see it in his eyes. Oh, there's like just this goodness in his eyes.

Yes. Do you think that they tease him up to be Bachelor here? I think it's a good possibility. Yeah, especially when you think of the top four. It's not going to be guy. And then, you know, who knows who she ends up with? I'm just going to say she's not going to end up with guy. and I don't think

the Bachelor will be Pascal He'd be a good one He would be entertaining hilarious He'd be like kind of like I don't want to like he wouldn't be a Juan Pablo in the sense of like you know

him being kind of scandalous but he would be like a Juan Pablo in the thing in the way that he like doesn't care what he says and he's just like outrageous he would be good TV yeah great TV

anyway again if there's a bachelor in paradise for y'all um he'd be the perfect contestant how do you see do you see a bachelor in paradise for golden gosh i hope so i although i can't see you know all of us in bikinis like the younger hence why i'm thinking it's instead bachelor and not but it's it's golden bachelor in visits paradise or something i was going to say it's it's going to be like an aspen or like it's going to be in a cabin in the wood in like the mountains right that's a great idea yeah but still vacationy locale right i think it would be fun to get the two groups together

and happen yeah well okay nancy you led me into a fun question what would be on your list who would you want to see there who would you tell the producers that you're like i would love to see to see Jonathan. Mm-hmm. Of course you would. Rair. Rair, he's gorgeous. And that's a really good heart.

I mean, a lot of them were impressive in that way. Yeah, Jonathan also just like a gentle man. A gentleman. A gentleman. What a looker. What a looker. Other Jordan. Yeah.

I mean, I don't know, you know, I don't want to say who. Yeah. Because you know things. I know just a little bit. Yeah. So, like, we don't have to, outside the top four. Jonathan, Jordan,

Guy. Well, no, not guy. I thought Charles was amazing. Oh, what a cutie buttootie. America loves him. He's a reason we need to have a spinoff. Exactly, because you know what? He gave you hope.

He, he was, he had gone through his emotions and, you know, when Guy helped him figure out why his wife actually died, you know, when he, she bit her tongue. Yeah. When, when Charles left, you could see that he said, I'm ready to date. He hadn't dated anybody. It was so, it was so cute. But then he had an uplifting, like, but I'm ready. I'm going to go forward and it was like, I think that's what we all love. We all love a great story and we want these men to find their people.

I just hope they're ready. You wonder, are they really ready? And I don't think some of them are still trying to figure that out. I would say that Charles and Mark stood out to me as two guys that possibly weren't. I started thinking about, like, my own parents. I know that my dad, it would be Romeo and Juliet if my mom ever went before my dad. The next day, my dad's taking poison.

Right. Yeah. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So we'll find out. soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.

He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not. To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York state number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming. and you don't know who's next to you.

And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like...

What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my dad. my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?

A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dr. Joy Harden Bradford, and in session 421 of therapy for black girls, I sit down with Dr. Afea and Billy Shaka to explore how our hair connects to our identity, mental health, and the ways we heal. Because I think hair is a complex language system, right? In terms of it can tell how old you are, your marital status, where you're from, you're a spiritual belief. But I think with social media, there's like a hyperfixation and observation of our hair, right? That this is sometimes the first thing someone sees when we make a post or a reel is how our hair is styled.

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you know it's just like he's the widower left and the other guys aren't widowers and I think that it makes such a difference when letting somebody go definitely i also think he was shocked yeah i know seeing his face changed from being like happy to just being like oh i'm getting dumped right now it was really sad he had just gone in and talked to the guys i know oh it was great and i can see a future i want her to meet my family you know and i think he when she came in and said hey can we talk I think he expected it to be something good. Yeah. Yeah, I think so.

He'd see that on his face. Yeah. Who do you see as the next bachelor? Or am I allowed to ask you that? Oh, you're allowed to ask me that. Yeah, of course. I definitely see it as being Mark. I'm a little worried that he just might not be ready.

I know it's been six and a half years, but like, I do feel like he might be bringing up Denise a lot with the new women, which obviously is like fine. But I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. And I can also see it being Jonathan because, you know, he's such a stud as well. I mean, like, they're like pretty tied in my book. What I was thinking about with Mark with this departure is that he was talking up their date.

But I think deep down he knew. And I think he's going to have one of the situations. I'm sure he did. We could talk to him about it whenever we get him on here. That like within a day or two of leaving the mansion, he was probably like, she was a great person to date so I could like help myself move on but she definitely wasn't my person I think he probably realized that fast that they didn't have it I bet he did although in the moment I still think he was taken aback when yeah in the moment you're totally in love like how do

you feel thinking back on your experience with Gary oh look at her face I was missing a two tooth. Like a month before I went, anyway, I had to have a tooth pulled in the front. So they gave me a retainer with a tooth. And so I was more quiet in general because I was afraid I would lisp with the retainer. And then Brian, my producer would say, Nancy, come here. You have something in your retainer. No way. You cannot make this up. So you are not your most confident. I was not. And I was quiet, which back to Mark, I know he's more soft-spoken than some of the men. I think there's nothing wrong with that, but I also think he needed to maybe try a little harder. Yeah, he wasn't. A little more vocal and talk a little more about other things as well. Yeah. Not just his former way.

Yeah. Do you think that they put that date card on the date for the scavenger hunt because things were quiet? Yes. Yeah, you think that they were like, okay, we need a nice breaker here. We don't want it to be too weird. Right, right. Because I think it would have been pretty quiet and pretty, yeah. All right.

And I don't know if that means he's not ready or not. I don't, you know, you never know. Yeah, he might just be a quiet guy. He's cute. Yeah. He's so cute. All right. He's cute.

I hope it. Rose ceremony. This is where we see Jonathan, which we already said we were shocked that he went home. I'm glad that she walked him out. Me too. And that they had that little conversation.

I still, like, I know we already talked about it, but I got to talk about it again. I can't believe that guy got beyond him. They had, I could see their connection. You can see connection with who? With Jonathan and Jim. Yeah. And we both couldn't with Guy.

So did you talk to her about Guy? Have I? Yeah. Yes. Okay. And you said that she said that there was something. It was a, yes, absolutely. And I think there is a connection.

I just couldn't see it like you could see it with Jonathan, with chalk, even some with Jordan. But I couldn't see. And Pascal, I think they had a connection too. in the beginning. What did she tell you about these guys? She said Pascal was fun. Like he's a fun guy. Also, Keith, same thing, fun.

Fun guy, exciting, would never be boring, kind of thing. And I know, I know, trying to think who else she, Jonathan, she thinks or thought was amazing. And although he had two young children. Yeah, they're younger. They tempt, yeah, it looked like they were preteen teen, teen. Which, honestly, I think that's kind of a negative. Different parts of life.

Yeah. In our age group, you meet somebody and they have an 11-year-old. That person, not that you have to move, but, you know, that's what all of this is about, right? In the golden part, you know, your house is already established. You're in your community. Of course you're looking for love. And I do believe if you meet the right person, you're going to make it work. But you have a compromise.

But I couldn't see him leaving Iowa with younger children. Yeah. Good point. And I think she was ready to move forward. I think she's ready to find somebody and make a new life with, whether you have your house, his house, and a new house for the two of you, whatever. But I think that's just a, it's just a little obstacle having younger children. That's a good point.

I wish that was brought up a little bit more. You could tell, though, from his package earlier in the season that he had younger kids and then he showed the picture and you're like, that picture is not dated. Right. Did she get off the show and want to set you up and play Matchbaker with the ladies? I think she'd like to set all of us up. You know, she's like, I would love for every of all of us to make a connection. And I think that's where she said, we've got to have some kind of either, you know, the

Golden's visit Paradise, which would be fun or, but I don't want to be on. It would be funny, I think, if the Goldens were coming on to visit Bachelor in Paradise with these 25-year-olds. Like, we're not going to, we could give advice, right? Or, hey, who do you like? Well, you know how they have proms and stuff? So you guys could be at one of the proms, then you have a mixer. Right. We would need to follow your stories, so it needs to be more than just an appearance.

I know. I hope they do follow our story, because we're all in the same boat, and we all, you know, went through it. And, you know, we would all still like to find someone. Have you mingled with any of the guys? Because I know that, you know, on the main show, there's DM sliding. there's even just like you meet each other at events and at the live shows right and that hasn't happened yet but i haven't met um any of them yet okay well actually that's not true i met one of them who's that ah um i did meet one of them oh okay you've met one of them maybe perhaps the one that she

ends up with just briefly okay perhaps Nancy, where do you see the season going? I know you know some spoilers, so just give us some vague, some vague pleasantries. I think I see some, I think there's going to be some drama at the end. I mean, Mark wasn't drama, you know, her letting him go, but I think it was unexpected for all of us that he left. And Jonathan leaving, but I think there's more to come as we get closer to the end. and I hope that she finds her guy. Can you say if she's happy now and one of the last time you spoke to her was?

Yes, she's very happy three days ago. Okay. She's with her. And she lives 20 minutes, we live 20 minutes apart. So it's, we've actually become better friends since we left the show. Do you guys have like little girl dates and the DMV? Yeah. We do.

Oh, nice. Okay, great. That's fun. Well, like I've said, I need to do that. I need to crash one of your girl dates. Where do you? I'm from Great Falls, but I, but I'm, but I live in Rhode Island. Right. Now you do. Yeah. But I'm home all the time. You are? Yeah, it's like every like three weeks. People are like, why do you go home so much? I'm like, because I love my family. Perfect. You can come over. Okay, sounds good. All righty. Well, Nancy, Thank you so much for coming on And we hope that you find somebody From her group of guys

Okay We're rooting for this I can see you're really hot with Jonathan You guys just look good together I'm shipping it I love it Okay keep you know If you hear anybody else

Any feelers out there Let me know Okay I will Okay It was a pleasure Thank you Ashley Bye thank you Bye

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