The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - A Golden Limo Entrance

Episode Date: September 29, 2023

It’s finally time for the first episode of The Golden Bachelor!  Ben finds he relates to Gerry on a deeply personal level, and he’s looking forward to comparing his experience as “The” Bachelor with what he sees in Gerry on his quest for love. This season of The Bachelor has much higher stakes than a typical season, and Ben and Ashley discuss why contestants in their 60s/70s have an easier time on the show than people in 20s. Plus, we talk to a Golden fan for a REAL grandma’s take on the first episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Let us know what you're thinking of the Golden Bachelor. We're here today to break down episode one of the Golden Bachelor with our Golden Bachelor. Gary, Ashley, take it away. I feel like you should take it away because this is the show that you've been waiting for and wanting to host and all that. Okay. I think you should. Well, then I will. Here's the deal.

Okay. Well, we look forward to going into this show where we have been talking about for months now is the idea that this show could transcend the other shows because of the storytelling piece. Now, night one, just like every other night one on any other show that The Bachelor has done is probably going to be the weakest storytelling that we get.

In fact, I think any emotion that you felt watching episode one and my wife, you know, definitely felt the emotion. I felt the emotion at times. I think week after week, it's just going to increase. All right, would hope it would. And this starts out, and the reason I say this at the beginning, is because we get an in-depth look right off the bat of our golden bachelor, Gary.

We hear a story. He's been married 43 years to his high school sweetheart. They have some beautiful kids. They have grandkids. and then he retires and they build their dream home. And then all of a sudden she becomes very sick. And a week later, she passes. And he's now left alone.

You know, he has his family, he has his grandkids, but he's left alone. And I would imagine Ashley at 70 now years old, I think he's 71 to be exact. But, you know, she passed away in his 60s. I would imagine that only is a feeling of deep, deep grief and sadness and confusion, especially as you're entering into a monumental season of life with somebody. But it's also at some point when that grief and the sadness, you know, goes away and you become

still sad and you're still mourning the death of your loved one, but you're moving on with life. I'm assuming it starts to get very lonely because you, a lot of the people I know, their 70s and 80s, they just miss that partner. And as Gary said it, like, he just misses that person to lay beside at night and maybe not say a word, but that somebody else is there. Yeah. Let me tell you that it was because of Gary's story in the beginning and how absolutely emotional it was, that I actually, I felt.

like almost too protective of him almost like nobody I didn't like I was like okay I've never even though we've watched like you know former leads get broken up with the season previous I've never felt so protective over someone and like feeling like no one like can compete and like he said like he doesn't want whoever he finds to compete with his wife he wants to find like a new and different type of love. But I almost, I just found myself being like, not worthy, not worthy. Are you, like, do you think I'm cold-hearted? I don't think you're cold-hearted at all.

I mean, I don't think you're pointing at any of these women being like, you're not worthy of him. You're not worthy of him. I think it in general, you had a very similar feeling that Jessica had from the very beginning, which her very first tears at Rashid, she goes, who's taking care of him? Like, I think it's a similar feeling of like, this is a sweet man. And he is obviously not looking for fame. He's not desiring fortune.

All these things that I think the bachelor started to get criticized for as of recent are out of the question for him. You know, fame might feel good for a bit. This attention might feel fun and fascinating. But he's not looking for the fortunes. He's not looking for the Instagram deals. He's in this for this deep desire that maybe I could try something different to spark something up in my life at this age.

When excitement, you know, you don't get a lot of new in your 70s. There are not a lot of things that happen to you in your 70s that are new to you. Maybe a grandchild, right? You've never experienced being a grandparent, you know, grandparent before. But this is new for all of these people, especially for him, who is leading this franchise and leading this new show and getting the interviews now on television and having to respond to questions and figure out some like sneaky ways to answer them. And Jessica just starts crying. She's like, who's taking care of this man? Like, because Ben, I know how they took care of you.

I like a fault, a default to thinking that the daughters are. They're there, I'm guessing they're not around for all of this. I mean, Ashley, you know you've been around enough. You mean throughout the actual process. Yeah. I mean, they're not around for that. So they're not traveling with him on a plane these interviews. I mean, let's compare it for a second. Okay. So I think this is this is an interesting conversation to compare. I think we'll have to through this whole season, at least for season one, compare and contrast to my experience. Because I think, you know, as the bachelor, it might be the closest thing that we know today to what he's feeling now. Yeah. And I think that is something that I've had, you know, this is the first time my wife and I have watched a bachelor

related show together in our relationship. So that's a big deal to me. And I had a really good time talking to Jessica last night about my experience compared to what he's feeling. or what it's like to walk into the mansion for the first time or what it's like to pull up in the limo as the bachelor and to get out and stand there as these women greet you and you're like, I don't deserve this or this is weird for me. And so I'm sitting there last night and I'm watching this and I know how hard it was for me.

Yes, I'm never the one to say the producers don't care. I've never said that. I never will. I think they do. I think they do it in the best way they know how. And I don't know if it's a good way. but it's the best way they know how. It's not criticizing them. But for me, it was a, it was, it's still to this day has some like effect on me personally. It's exhausting. You're breaking

people's hearts. You're getting things said about you that are very negative at time and can really strike a court with you. You're also getting things very positive. Like, you're getting things said about you that are very positive and you don't know how to handle that. You don't know like what to believe and what not to believe. And at the end of the day, no human being has training on how to be almost famous. And this poor man at 70 years old is experiencing him for the first time. Now, yes, he has some wisdom that I didn't have. He probably has some, you know, some ways of now getting life that he's learned along

the way that I don't know yet. But he's also 70 years old and he's gone through heartbreak and he doesn't know what he's getting himself into. Who's taking care of him? Aww. So are you sad and scared that he's not being taken care of? I think he is. I think the show is going to learn. I think it's going to be good for the show. My response to this and my response to Jessica was I think I know and you know these people well enough to know that they're not going to let a 70 year old man and a bunch of 60 plus year old women go through this in the same way they allow 20 year olds to go through this. They're just not. They're going to have to step up the game and care and in like emotional like rehabilitation. and allowing them to talk about their feelings and their thoughts and about their disappointment. And it might just be me, Ashley.

It might just be me. But I did. I got very emotional last night as I thought about the times in my life that my parents have been really excited for something. Like I know, you know, my mom puts on the dress and she puts on the makeup. My wedding is a good example. And my dad puts on a suit and he combs his hair. And I know for me when I feel really excited for something, right? Like maybe The Bachelor is a good example of that, or my wedding day is a great example of that still.

And you get really pumped for something. And there's a lot of expectation. And there's a lot of nerves. And I wonder what it would feel like if I was in my 60s or 70s and I haven't felt that excitement in a long time. Like if I've been desiring it and craving it and praying for it and I just haven't felt it. I've been saying like, I want something to happen in my life that allows me to feel alive again. And then these women get asked to be on the show. and they go to their hotel rooms

and they put on their dresses and they put on their makeup and they feel alive again. But then just like every season and we expect it, there's a new depth now to letting these women go to me. And there's probably a heaviness to Gary

because I think he probably feels that heaviness knowing that these women gave up a lot. They took a lot of risk. Not only their kids watching this, but then their grandkids are watching this. And now I'm going to have to send you home. Like for me, I knew these girls would be all right.

Like, they're 20 years old. They're beautiful. They'll be fine. They'll find somebody. There's not for me. But this is a very different situation. And I think it brings a weight to this show that I hope the show can bring out. I hope every week I feel that emotion watching this because it makes it a beautiful hour of my life when I can feel that with them again.

Ben, this is like one of the scenarios where I'm just like nodding. even really going to respond to you because I think what you said was just great and you really kind of opened my eyes to reading the show in a way that I don't think that I, I don't, I did not. I didn't think about how it just like, I didn't think about the weight. I mean, but you know how it is. I mean, I think to, yeah, because like, I don't know because I was always just, I was like directly comparing to my experience of being like, oh, okay, this is, this is so crazy. This is just my point. this is how I watched it, my point of view, which is wrong now,

and I can, like, realize after you what you just said, it's, like, totally wrong. I just, no, I think that's, I think I actually think it's wrong. When you, when I am, like, young, you know, I'm in my 20s, like, I think, like, oh, I get eliminated from The Bachelor. Like, oh, my God, my dreams have been, like, total dreams crushed.

Like, I'm going to die alone. Nothing's going to compare to this experience. Like, I did it. like, you know, I'm talking about like the girls who like, really, like, nothing came much of it. First nighters, second nighters. I mean, like, I have. And then I'm embarrassed, but then I'm thinking about these people as if they're more mature than to feel those emotions. And they're like, ah, you know what?

Cool experience didn't work out for me. He wasn't my guy. Because I think from there, yeah, just after like all that life, you're like, oh, that was just glad to have experienced it. You know, they say, don't cry because it's over, but like smile because it happened. I feel like they're like truly just smiling because it happened. And then I'm also thinking like if I'm at that age and like I have, well, I'm particularly thinking of the loss of a spouse and like say I'm one of the widows. I'm going to be like, oh, it wasn't him.

Well, that's too bad. Again, great experience. Like I had the love of my life. Like, oh, I don't, I don't know. That's just how I would think. that's how I think of it from being a 35 year old watching it, but you can also spend it and think about how you've thought of it. Because I think that when you're younger and you're like so striving to have the love of your life

that in these women's cases, they may not be looking for like that great love and more just like for companionship and fun. And like you're not do it. You're not like there to find the person that you're going to have. and raise a family with, but, like, more like have your, quote, twilight years with. And you're like, oh, maybe I can do that with the family that I created with another person. And, like, I won't need, like, the actual spouse. Well, think about it this way. So I guess there's two different ways to look of it. Not to make this, like, terribly heavy. And we're going to get into breaking

down the show in just a second. This is the person you're going to die with. Is that what you're going to say? Oh, God. Yeah. I mean, there is a realness to the show that I think, I personally, and not maybe, and I think there are probably women that did this show that probably respond in the same way you did. That was cool. That was fun. I'm glad I did it. I'm going home and this was a late night and I'm tired and I'm going to take a break. I'm sure that I'm sure that's the case for some. But for others, I do think there's a lot going into this. And it's just something about, it's just something about last night hit me where I'm thinking about these women and preparing with their daughters on how to flirt with a man again.

like how yeah I was like oh gosh that's the most stressful thing I've ever imagined like these women crushed it last night out of the limos they crushed it in the conversations they were not only beautiful and fantastic but they were funny and they tried new things getting out of the limos and they were flirty and I'm like now you know again we and I might be have experience when we started this show in doing that and dating and flirting and all those things, right? We were kind of skilled. We had the practice at the time. We were in the dating pool. We did, but did we have the inherent confidence that it takes? Because, like, you know how they all, you see those memes. It's like 20s, like, just crippling with anxiety. 30s, don't really

care what, like, I'm fully embraced myself. 40s, it's like, I don't care what anybody else thinks. So also, like, maybe, I don't know, I'd love to see myself at 65, just in comparison. I don't want to date at 65. but I would be interested to know whether I find it more comfortable at that age versus at 25. And I think that's going to be the best question of the show for me because I don't know how to answer that. I don't have parents who aren't together. I haven't seen a lot of 60. I mean, last night was probably the first time of my life. I saw 2 70 year olds make out. That's probably the first time I've ever seen it. I can't remember the last time. And so I think one of the questions for me through this show will be what does it look like to be in your 60s and 70s? and dating? Is there a confidence? Maybe there's an insecurity still. Maybe there's like so much of a desire that like it comes off as insecure. I think this will, you know, just like the bachelor and

the bachelorette in its heyday was kind of this like really cool social experiment where you get to see how people reacted with each other in different situations and you got to learn kind of about human behavior. And we kind of saw it all by now, right? We've seen how 20 year olds react to each other. That's why everybody was wanting, you know, people in their 30s, people a little more mature to go on the show so they could see how 30-year-olds react in dating situations. Now we get to do the same thing, but with people in their 60s and 70s, we get to see maybe they are more confident. Maybe they do let their hair down a little bit. You know, last night, I would say it was probably pointing to yes, confidence is definitely a consistent theme throughout all of these women's lives. I can't say that

yet about our Golden Bachelor. I think he still has some insecurity, which makes sense because, well, I think he just feels overwhelmed by the fact that he has 20 women coming to date him. And And so he's probably just overwhelmed more than anything. But we're going to see if what you think is true. If, yes, people in their 60s and 70s do get more confident as they get older when it comes to dating. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly. And now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam.

Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So we'll find out soon. This person writes, My boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up.

Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his person?

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She doesn't really make a splash night one. She wore that golden dress, which was great move by, well, her fashion senses, but also for the producers to be like, yes, that dress, go with that dress because this is the golden bachelor moment where he goes, we're making history. You are the first woman out of the limo for the golden bachelor, who I am. And yeah, she's just beautiful. Makes a nice, classy first impression. And so does Ellen like Ellen. I think she might be my, I think she might be my choice for him if I had to choose right now, which is obviously very early on. She had a beautiful turquoise, like big flower.

one-sided dress and she's the one who yelled her best friend's name out because her best friend who she's been friends with for 60 years is going through cancer and this is like an adventure that they kind of took on together to get her on the show now we did see really like Ellen we did see at the end of the episode that her friend did pass away this episode was dedicated to her friend so I didn't see that I do want to highlight that you know that's a new element of the show right And it's, you know, death doesn't escape any of us. And I think it's a new element of the show again where. Yeah.

And I didn't see this because I was watching on TV. Oh, no. So, you know, there's going to be these storylines. There's going to be storylines that make us, like, it does. It makes us stop for a second. You know, there's a news article today. And I'll pause here. and I'll just interrupt and say

there's a news article today that was kind of like hating on this Golden Bachelor show. It came from a big outlet. I won't name out the outlet because that's just not fair. Well, I guess it would be fair. It's public and journalism.

But there was, and it said that the Golden Bachelor pretty much missed on a golden opportunity to do something different. And I just feel like that is very premature. Like you can't say that after night one. It's premature. You cannot say that after night one.

We don't know. And last night, and yes, I had a lot of anticipation. I had a lot of excitement. Nobody that listens to our show did not know that I really want to be involved in this show because I do think it's beautiful in so many ways. And it can probably be really beautiful. And I hope the show did a good job at making it beautiful because I have no idea at this point. But I think if you look at Twitter and you look at Instagram and you read the articles from like critics, I think people had a general consensus where they felt something more watching this show than they have in years watching

reality television. And so I don't think they've missed the mark yet. I can't be a critic that says that because it's one premature and two, as you're mentioning as you run through the women that stepped out of the limo, there was a depth that we don't get to see every season. Yeah, no, I totally agree with you. Yeah, they haven't missed it yet. It was good emotional first episode. I can't imagine where they would have would have done differently this first episode.

It's all about going to be about these one-on-ones to me. So what they're going to talk about on the one-on-ones and how the one-on-ones are going to make us feel so much different because you're like, oh, this was, this is heavy. I mean, we see a lot of heavy life stuff on one-on-ones in the younger version. But they're just going to have a lot more to recap about life. There's going to be like,

and these conversations. Hey, tell me your life story. It's like, how much time you got? Well, I was born here. No, like, it's going to be different. And I think, too, you and I have desired this for years. You've been a fan of this show for longer than I have, but I've been a fan of the show for a while.

You know, I think last night felt very similar to the early seasons of The Bachelor and Bachelorette. I think for me, there are some characters that I'm really invested into. And so obviously you just mentioned their first two at a limo. other um women i guess really stood out to you on night one that you're like i i want to see more of them all right yeah let's go through the big ones the ones that like you know you finish night one you remember their names or you remember something memorable from them um sandra who um incredible

how is she 70 she looks incredible she is the one that does breath work with him but just goes F word F word F word and it was kind of weird what was your take on that I think She apparently like has a tendency to curse

She likes cursing She talks about that later in the episode It may have made more sense She talked about earlier in the episode Because I was like is she What word is she saying? Is she saying? I was like the only word

I can really imagine her saying Is the F word right now Because she's not going to say No I imagine there just needs to be more explanation of what like I'm imagining like she's learned in her life that's like that's in a way a contemplative practice that if she says it

it like releases something inside of her and some like it allows her to get some peace because she's like breathing out the anger or something I don't know but we just didn't get an explanation that wouldn't have been the best first impression for me no it would have thrown me off I would have been like and and I think also like this dude's I know where he's from he's from 30 minutes from my hometown like he's from small town Indiana I don't think he's used to that maybe he is. I don't, I don't, maybe their lakes different than the lake I grew up on, but like, people are usually a little more like subdued and, uh, and how they converse. But yes, I think it probably threw him off. But obviously he wasn't that uninterested in it. No, definitely not.

She got a rose. Next up is a very memorable person. Uh, Leslie, she comes out of the limo. She's at a walker. She's trying to be frail. And he goes so sweetly. Do you need help thinking like they actually casted a woman who was like needing a walker and looks like your prototypical like grandmother. And she was like, no. And then she whips it off. And she's got this tiny little dress on. And she happens to be an ex of princes. She lives in Minnesota, which he's famous, which he famously lived in. And he wrote the song, sexy dancer about her. So like, She says, you know, when she goes, I'm a dancer, choreographer. She doesn't sound like a dancer chore.

She is a, like, this is a woman who, this defines her. She kind of blew us away. She's not going to be with Gary, though. This is not Gary's person. I don't know. I mean, I don't know what he's into yet. We haven't, I can't say that. I mean, she is like, I can't even, I don't even know who to compare her to from our,

like, from the franchise that we'd all be familiar with. I would say she's similar to a Victoria Fuller to me. Because she's like that's sexy, like overtly sexy. Yeah, I think she's probably just going to be like somebody you're like, goodness gracious, like you exude a confidence in yourself and you're beautiful. And I think you're going to be around a while because he's going to be like, I have never seen anybody like you. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see. Who else do we have? April. She's the one which, you know, sorry, I'm going to say it because if I don't, you know, I got to say these things. She's got a little work done. And that's probably going to be, you know, seemed like Twitter was saying that was a consistent theme. I never see that kind of stuff. I'm sure Jessica probably pointed out if I would have asked her. I don't pay, I don't, I don't, I don't know what to look for. Yeah, Jared would have had no idea. I was like, oh, yeah.

That's a nose job right there. And there was like some filler in a lot of these ladies' cheeks that were actually quite obvious to me. But you know what? Go for it. I am I am a proponent. As we all know, I talk about it very openly. But yeah, April is also a handful. She says that she's quite eccentric. She walked in with an Easter basket because she used to grow up on a hen farm. She does a little dance. The little dance was kind of cute. Like the little shake, that was kind of cute. she is such a bachelor girl you know she's just she was cast because she is the character um teresa didn't love her entrance as well because she's just a little bit too um she was just like a little too coming in hot for me um she said it's i came in with my birthday suit because it's my birthday

and then she like reveals like takes off this coat and like basically reveals like a nude body underneath. And I was like, okay, girl, like, just relax a little bit. What do you think? Well, she also was the first to kiss Gary, right? So she's coming in with, she just came on too strong all over. But yeah, I don't know if that's too strong. Like, I don't know. He liked it. He liked it. Like, he liked it. I think, I mean, kind of like we were talking about earlier, what if in your 70s when you're dating, you're like, I don't want to play the games anymore. Like, are you into this or not? Let's dive in. Let's figure this out. Like, we don't got a ton of time to like sit and chat. Like, if you like me, let's go for it. See, that's still something that

like I can't relate to at this age because I'm still like, oh, give me all the hard to get. I love hard to get. Jared even tells me to like this day. He's like, I still make you play hard to get. I still make you work for it. Goodness gracious. Well, that's fun. You know, every couple. I just like it. Every relationship has their own dance. And I don't know what it's like in your 70s. I mean, every season, if you think about how we break down this show, at some point, we say, it's obvious that the lead is into this. And we're able to pretty much identify what the leads into. Either it's confidence or it's vulnerability or it's insecurity or they just are really

attracted to the physical parts of people. We don't know yet with Gary. We don't know at all what he could be into. It could be, if you're forward, I'm loving it. Oh, let's mention, though, that she does give him a birthday cupcake during their one-on-one. And he definitely alluded. Oh, he gave it to her. Okay, he definitely alluded to him wanting a kiss

because didn't he say something like, what would you clean off the frosting from my face? Yeah, that was hard for me to watch. It was hard for you to watch. However, kudos to Gary. Like, this dude is pulling out all the stops. And he definitely is not acting like he has not flirted in years. He crushed the best in recent memory for me.

He has crushed the opening night conversation. and lines and filler space and listening. He crushed it. He crushed it here. Like, I want to kiss. What would you help me clean it off if I put a little icing on his face? And then he does it. And then she does it with him.

And it's hard to watch. I didn't love it. But I think it's cute. Overall, he made it seem like he was like very open to every woman. You know how sometimes when you're watching The Bachelor, you can tell that like, he's just like, ah, this is not going to work out for her. Oh, no, there's nothing there. He just seemed to be genuinely willing to hear everyone out.

Like, I wouldn't have been intimidated by him if I was one of the ladies because, like, I really think that he was like, he's like super just accepting and open ears. Oh, I think so. I mean, I think his listening last night is a good example to all of us on how to listen and how to respond. Yeah. The last few that stood out to us, I think for me was Aunt Chippy, obviously, Jimmy Kimmel's aunt is hilarious. plant, not a real, not a real contestant. I mean, I, I don't know. I've never known them to plant, but I'm guessing they said like, hey, well, you just come on. You can only, you only need to be there for night one. And she said, yeah, man, just be yourself. And she said, I'm good with that.

I just watched her and I was like, I want to be at the Kimmel family Thanksgiving. Like, I can't imagine how funny and weird and wacky they are. But they obviously are something special. you know faith pulls in in a motorcycle that is just very impressive to me life with me is going to be like quite the ride or something like that she had a cute line so I mean a lot of so I mean a lot of women sit out I also think we would be doing it a service because we won't get to talk about it again if we don't mention that Matt James's mom was obviously on the episode. Very little screen time.

Very little. I mean, we didn't really see much from her other than kind of telling her or telling Gary, hey, my son was The Bachelor and he seems to know that. Like he seems he like shakes his head like I knew, I recognize you or. He didn't make it seem like it was a big deal. No. I think it should have been a bigger deal maybe. You think that he understood it though?

Because I thought that he like took it in but that didn't react to it. So I was like maybe he just doesn't get it. Yeah, maybe he does. I mean, it was at this point, she was late in the night. And so he kind of probably just was tired. I'm shocked she went home night one because I felt like she. They should have bonded over something. Like I wanted to see them talk about the experience, but they obviously didn't hit it off.

It was probably the one that I watched. And I was like, they have nothing. Like there's no chemistry. between the two of them. And I'm surprised. She's a beautiful person, but like, it was very clear to me that, like, they, they had no chemistry. Yeah, I guess not. Yeah. So, Ashley, we're going into the night. What stood out to you kind of, uh, either emotionally or like holistically as you watched this episode when it came to the cocktail parties? Any stand out to you or with Gary and the women? Well, first off, I want to mention that it does feel like, like a blink of an eye that it was over.

So it's an hour-long show, not a two-hour-long show, which really means it's 40 minutes. So they did cram in a lot in 40 minutes. And I think the place that we missed the most context with that shop was the cocktail party. The conversations went by fast. We didn't see a ton of them. But to answer your question, the moments that I look back and I remember were obviously the two kisses, the one with Teresa and the Then the other one with Faith, who ends up getting his first impression rose, to me, that feels like more of a genuine, I mean, yeah, she got the first impression of her. So obviously, it's more of, like, a genuine reaction. Connection there. I think it's more mutual. And then, again, like, I really like Ellen. She just has, like, really good energy about her. She's, like, very pretty. And then she also just, like, feels. She just feels. She just feels. like warm and like happy and smiling and outgoing I don't know there's just something about that

I really like take to her on and then who else um then there was Sandra explains that she likes the the F bombs yeah was there anything that was there any other conversation that you that jumps out at you well I think I look at the show you know I was looking at the show at this point analyzing Gary because these conversations are sure they're at some level meaningless when it comes to the large scope of the show because they fly by no matter if you're on you know the bachelor and bachelor or if you're on the golden bachelor you're looking for instant chemistry on night one it's really the lead saying who am I most attracted to I don't know a lot about you yet but whom I most attracted to yeah I do think Gary showed last night that he was into people that

made more of a concerted effort to get him doing something fun and get him doing something different than everybody else. Well, Leslie did dance with him. And I think that stood out to him. I think that his listening was incredible, the eye contact that he made and the ways that he was responding to their stories and their reasonings for being there. I mean, a lot of the reasonings for being there was just like, hey, I think you're great, Gary. Like, you are a dream.

I am so into you. best night of my life, people were saying. And I think he did a great job at navigating the beautiful moments and the hard moments. And then I think, obviously, with the Rose ceremony, you see him navigate that really well. He got emotional. This is going to be hard for him. We're going to talk about that as we talk about the preview for the rest of the season. And he got, he also got emotional during some of the conversations, which is really nice to say. And I just want to, before you go on, to say that like here's a difference between our age group versus

this age group these people say things like oh my God this is the best day of my life like I couldn't wait like you know like you can show like so much like interest in somebody without it coming off as like creepy or try too hard like they just love to hear that they're wanted

whereas like if somebody were to say to us be like oh my God I've been watching you and I just like can't be like okay well can we play a little can we play a little game here? Well, I mean, I remember conversations during the Bachelor and Bachelor where people would say, this is the hardest thing I've ever had to do. And you're like, what? Yeah.

Like, what are you talking about? Like, this is the hardest thing you just got to let go from reality television show and this is the hardest moment of your life? Like, you're doing all right then. Like, you're fine. I know, that's me. I was doing fine. I've had quite the life.

Been very lucky. And, you know, for Gary and these women, when they say this is the best night of my life, like that holds some weight. That really does. There's a lot of days. Well, the one girl said it's the best day of my life in a long time. Sure. I mean, but they hold some weight.

It holds some, it holds some days in there. My favorite part of the whole episode. The best part of the whole episode. Well, there's two. Two moments sit out to me, I guess. One is I think Gary is drinking orange juice at the cocktail parties.

I don't think it's a screwdriver. That was much, much needed conversation topic. I think it's just straight orange juice. juice. Like, there is no vodka in that. It is, it is not at all. It is as orange as orange can be. And if there's vodka in it, it's like a splash. He might be a non-drinker. I don't know. Or he just didn't want to drink. He probably wanted to drink orange juice at 6 a.m. because it was 6 a.m. Sure. It could have been one to drink orange juice. But the fact that he had a glass of orange juice

is hilarious. It's so great for this. The next is, I mean, I love some of the women's comments, like my contacts heard. I just want to take them out. Like, that's just, great stuff. I feel that at this age. But the best moment for the whole show for me. The best moment. Yeah.

What was it? Gary the, Gary the Bachelor, dancing around, looking over his shoulder and says, does anybody have as much fun as we do? Aw.

Like, or does anybody know how to have fun like we do? Like, it was something like you would hear your grandfather say as you're like having a dance party in your grandfathers. grandparents living room as you watch like a movie that they know you love and they go and like

they bring out the ice cream with the sprinkles on it because they just want to spoil you and they just say does anybody have as much fun as we do and you're like no great ball i love coming to your house i feel so bad i like you guys texted that and i was like oh that didn't resonate with me the way it did with you guys it's like made you and just cry it's like so sweet though i totally appreciate the moment. It is so innocent. It was an incredibly innocent moment. I think that's a good way to end this podcast is, you know, until we talk about the preview

for the rest of the season, I think this show on night one to me, if I were to explain in some words, it was innocent, it was emotional, it was exciting, and I felt the whole thing for the whole hour that it was on television. And for that, I'm thankful. I don't get to usually say that about a show that I spend this much time watching for this podcast. I felt it. And I'm excited for the rest of the season.

And I'm also very excited that I think Jessica and I will watch every episode together and have something to talk about. I love that. Yeah, this is my job is breaking down this show. And she doesn't love the show. And I get that. And I get reasons why. Like, it probably brings up some weird feelings.

Yeah. But this is different enough where she's like, I love this. I love the idea of it. And Night 1 was beautiful, and I hope this show continues to be beautiful. I hope in four weeks we're saying they're nailing it. Like, this is so good. And we're not saying they've missed the mark. And I don't think they will. I think this show is such an easy show to produce. I really do. I think it's the easiest show that they've ever done to produce because you just get them out there and you get them saying stuff. And they say the funny stuff. They say the weird stuff. They're

aggressive. They're awkward. And it's beautiful. I also feel like they probably have a lot less hard of a time getting people to talk about like their emotional stories in their life you know they're just gonna serve it up they don't even have to really ask they're like i don't care i look to try to judge a 70 year old like come on try to hate on a 70 year old trying to date like you kids like fools like that's not going to be fun for anybody well the sneak peak of the rest of the season um is uh it is wild it's captivating we obviously um see very similar storylines that we see to other seasons, it feels like now the new bread and better of the show. He's falling in love with multiple people. Ashley, what do you think about that? 70-year-old, allowing themselves

to fall in love with multiple people. Well, I'm not surprised. I'm dying to know how many weeks it took to film this show because we know it's significantly less than the normal show, which is two months, which is already really a very fast process. I feel like, but I also think at the same time these people are probably just like you're serving up the feelings super fast so maybe the you know the reciprocation of the feelings happens faster

I feel like it's you know how you were saying that the being out of practice with all the heartbreak it's like this is this is where it's really sad is when they get to like the top something something top four or five and you're like oh I think you'll cry every row ceremony yeah you're like oh my

gosh I'm not surprised to hear that he's going to fall in love with multiple people not at all. No. Yeah, he just seems very emotionally available. Well, I think they're diving in. I think there's an intentionality to this thing that will make them open up their hearts more. Now, he does have a line that we see that he says, you know, he's talking about his wife

passing away. So that was the hardest day of his life. And this is a damn close second. I know. And he's growing. And he's bawling. And like, he has like the. he has like the

like the dad tears you know what I'm talking about like the worst tears in the world like there's like a depth to their voice because like they they don't know how to cry oh my gosh and they're not going to let the tears overwhelm them so they're holding it in but yet they're so emotional he's so frustrated with what's happening so obviously I think we can point to this season

becomes very real for multiple people including our Golden Bachelor. And I think we see that the tears that Gary is showing will not be stopped throughout the entirety of the season. I think every breakup is going to be hard for him in a different way. And I think he's going to have to end relationships that he's probably feeling something for because he hasn't felt a relationship in a long time.

Even though I do think something unique to this season will be Gary knows what it feels like to have true love. And so that's what he's kind of. looking for again. Not the same kind of love. Something, something different, something new. But he's looking for love again. Do you think his wife is in heaven laughing? I don't know.

I mean, I would imagine if the daughter signed our bachelor, if the daughter signed the golden bachelor up, they knew that his wife and their mother would want him to do this. Yeah. Like I think, I think if the daughter is saying, saying, Dad, we really want you to do this. They knew it would have been a wish of his late wife. Yeah.

And as a result, yeah, I bet she's like, this is ridiculous. This is wild. And I'm so excited to celebrate with him as he goes on the rest of his life with somebody, you know, new, but my memory is still there. And I think there's so much more to break down when it comes to this show. There's so much more to talk about. Can we talk about how weird of an emotional switch it is to go from this to paradise? Well, you almost kind of need it because you go from this heavy emotion.

show to just foolery. Yeah, I, I just felt like almost dirty. I don't know, like, I, it just felt so weird to me. I'm hoping that these. Sucking toes. Yeah, sucking toes is like the first scene. You're like, what is going on? Like, I can't do this mentally.

I can't make these jumps. But I'm hoping both of these shows do well enough where they have their own nights here next season. Because if we have to always do Golden Bachelor in a Paradise, I think I'm going to be all twisted up inside. All right. Well, every week we're going to have a grandma on the show. Or I guess, I don't know if they're all going to be grandmas,

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Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. So every week here on the Almost Famous Podcast, we're going to start something new, something exciting, something to even continue pushing this Golden Bachelor forward with the Almost Famous Podcast because we just love it so much. We're going to bring on somebody that is in the age range of the contestants on the show, on the Golden Bachelor. We're going to get their thoughts each week on what they saw, what they expected, was it? shocking. What I'm interested in, Ashley, is was there anything that stood out to them because of like sayings and phrases that maybe they haven't heard in a while? Because we don't like say them in our common language today. Maybe they've gone away. But, you know, on the show, they're like, no, I remember when people used to say that. This week we have a very special guest.

Sherry Sugarman, the aunt of Amy Sugarman, who produces this podcast. Sherry, welcome to the show. thank you so sherry what's your initial take on the golden bachelor i like it i like it i think there is a need to show people that are a little more mature and have experienced life and um i think this is a a very nice new approach i've watched a bachelor and bachelorette from time to time and um i'm i'm wondering you know what the demographics are i'm hoping that you're going to get a very good response. Have you heard anything about the viewers? The ratings aren't out yet.

We're kind of hoping they would be. They're not out yet. They should be soon. I think there's a need for people my age to be able to find love, to be able to find love again. We all want to find love. And if we don't already have it, we're certainly looking for it. Well, you have been married to your high school sweetheart for quite some time and you're close to 80. would you ever think of yourself as being a participant on the show if you guys if you were not

happily married would i ever think of myself as being on the show is what yeah what kind of personality do you think it takes i think it takes an outgoing personality that that is that is for certain i think it's a difficult thing to expose yourself to to the public you have to be pretty confident and you have to want it very badly Now, Sherry, you know, I have a few things I'm very interested in when I talk to you. This is the first episode of The Golden Bachelor. You are our first guest to break this down. My goodness.

Okay. The criticism. And there is very little, okay, of this show so far. And I think as weeks go on, there'll probably be even less because people will get to know the stories of each participant, right? There's been a lot of life lived, a lot of stories of ups and downs. But the criticism so far is that people maybe do. don't feel like this is a fair representation of people in their 60s and 70s because a compliment to all the contestants and the Golden Bachelor, they're all extremely good looking. Like everybody

is beautiful and he's very handsome. Do you, if when you hear that, and these are people in your age range, what's your response? I think they're inspirational. I mean, I as a viewer, would much rather see people who are physically fit and who are attractive to represent seniors. I mean, obviously, some people are ill and, you know, have lots of problems and could not be on the show. But for the most part, I enjoy seeing these women. I have enjoyed seeing these women. We've only had one episode so far. Yeah. Well, and it kind of feels like, you know, 60 today. is not old. 70 is not old, right? Like 80 is not old. Like the people, I live in Colorado.

80 might be old, Ben. No, I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think you can say that. Yeah, I don't think you can say that. And I live in Colorado, right? I live on a street that there are 85 year olds biking, road biking up and down this mountain that I live on every day. Every day. I know four of them. They get out and they write 25 miles and they're they're booking it right. Now, yes, 85. It means you're in, you know, the second, definitely the second half of your life. You're in the final chapters of your life as the quote on this show said, you know, we're excited for another 10 years of love. If somebody said, that's great. It's a great perspective. But I think what it's showing is as you get older, it doesn't mean that you just got to sit in a nursing home in a chair all day.

Like, you can still get out there and have fun. Correct. Correct. So who stood out to you last night? Who do you like for Gary? Well, it's interesting. I did like his choice for the first impression rose. And it seems like usually in the past, the people who were picked end up not being the ones at the end.

But I like her. I think she's really genuine. I think she's fun. She's attractive. I think she has she she she I can check all the boxes as far as you know my my impression of her and was I think he likes I think he likes bruness with long hair that's what I think he does too I was noticing that as well many women that I was very impressed with and some not so much yeah who was not so much for you well I don't get in trouble but I know that it's okay nobody well I'm not going to get in trouble okay well very pretty pretty woman um very intelligent woman um the chicken lady i think she just uh kind of wore me out and um i have a feeling they're probably to you know the one that i'm then i'm talking the one that lived on the hen farm april the one on the hand farm yeah well april is a handful we can tell that april's a handful

yeah she's a handful she's definitely handful she would be very high maintenance for this lovely jerry i mean i think i think she would but she's amusing and i and i like that aspect of the show because I think we always you always need to keep somebody that keeps you laughing and it's and it's yeah and it's it's worth watching so did you find it to be more emotional than the main show not not yet but you know we've only had had one one showing of it so you have to give me a little more time to evaluate that okay he was emotional yeah yeah his intro package was And I get that. I get that.

And I think he's, I think men who have lost their spouses who have come from good marriages, want that again. So I think he's very genuine. I think he really is looking for someone to marry. Do you have any predictions for what's to come this season? Because we saw quite the, the teaser. Multiple people are saying, I love you. Now, this show was shot very quickly.

I don't even know if it took six weeks to shoot the entire show. So these feelings are developing really, these feelings aren't developing quickly as well. Well, seniors, we don't have a lot of time. So better to shoot it quickly. We might go in the middle of it. Stop. So how do you feel like Gary is going to like handle all this emotional pressure?

I think it could be a little difficult for him. I think it could be a little bit. So I think he comes over as a very nice man. So we certainly don't want him to get hurt. And he doesn't want to hurt any other women either. I think that's going to be a really an issue for him. Because just saying goodbye to the few that he said goodbye to last night was very emotional for him. So sweet to see him cry when the ladies were leaving.

It was so nice. So I've never seen a bachelor cry at the first row ceremony. Men should not be afraid to cry. No. No feeling. There was a comment last night. Aunt Sherry one of the ladies

I think it was seven years said she hadn't kissed a guy in seven years when she kissed Gary and that made I think she said several years several or seven I don't know what it was I think it could have been more than seven

however it was it was a long time was that Teresa is that I think it was yeah and that made she sure made up for all those years she did right It was very, it was very nice to watch. It was very aggressive, very forward.

Well, that was my question to you. Okay, so when she said that, Jessica and I both got watery-eyed. Because we're just like, you know, this is a very special thing for these women and for Gary, right? I mean, they maybe have been a little lonely. Maybe they haven't had love in a while. And then they get asked to be on this show and they get to dress up. Like, think about the excitement as you're dressing up and you're putting your makeup on and you're going on a date for maybe the first time in seven or several years, whatever

it was, I would love to hear what you think of that. You know, with your friendships, obviously, you're still happily married, but with the people that you know that maybe are not any longer due to a loss of a loved one or a separation, like what's your perspective at your age for people who have, you know, not been dating for a while? I think it's difficult. And I think for her, this is an amazing opportunity. And I just, my impression, though, was that I thought she was just a little too forward.

Maybe I'm kind of old school, but I thought she should have taken it just a little slower. She's charming. And I certainly would love her to be happy. You know, she's a very likable person. She's getting tips from the main show and all the youngans. Oh, the young people. Okay, probably, probably. Yes, yes.

And, of course, men like Jerry, I mean, you know, they don't want to be rejected. So when they meet somebody like Teresa, who's somewhat forward, I think it makes him feel wonderful that, you know, he's so, he's so admired and she would like to be with him for so much. But it was only, it's only the first time they met. So I'm saying, wait a minute, let's just go a little slower. That would just be my opinion. I do think that's an interesting dynamic. Because obviously, you know, if you're in your 30s, you know, it's not uncommon. I think the question that I used to get asked when I was dating was, would you kiss on a, you know, like to girls would ask each other, like, would you kiss somebody in their first date, right? Especially growing up in the church, that was a very common question of would you kiss somebody in your first date. And they'd all chatter about it. And the guys would talk about it too, right? So it wasn't uncommon to kiss on a first date. But as I think about, you know, even my parents' generation, which is, you know, in their 60s.

and mid-60s now. Like, I think it would have been uncommon for them. I think that would have been something that had been frowned upon. I think it would have been very taboo to even bring up, even if people were doing it. I don't think it was a question even offered to be asked.

And so it's interesting to think, yes, now we've watched a few people kiss, you know, on the first night. And that has to be a really big deal to them. Well, that was quite a kiss. Yeah. I mean, they're making out. A little peckle on the,

on the cheek who was the woman who was who came um who was on roller skates who presented herself in the beginning on roller skates i know that there's the aerobics teacher who is an ice skater roller skater whatever but she was the one that came in the walker is that correct uh the one in the walker i think ended up being the one that said she dated prince yes because that was that's what she's going to be known for to me is the woman who dated prince and he wrote a song about her Okay, and was she Leslie or am I getting this mix? She's Leslie. Okay, got it.

But then there was a woman that came in on roller skates, not Leslie. And I can't even know who she was. I thought that was really cool. Yeah. But I can't remember. I don't know her name. I can't place it. You know, speaking of what you're just saying, though, the interesting thing shared to me is,

as we watch this season go by. And as I said, I get to watch 85-year-olds up and down my road all day long biking was like they're mountain climbing. Like, they're going down. mountains on this show. That was shown in the previews. Like, they're not taking it easy on anybody. Now, and I say that with maybe the meanest thing they'll do to anybody all season.

I think it was inappropriate. Jessica and I thought talked about a thousand different ways they could have done this better. They made these poor people stay up through the night into the morning. I don't do that at all. It was the first time the host has ever said It's the last rose this morning I think there was an emphasis on like yeah We just made these people stay up all night

This evening It was never, it's never been brighter in there It was like really weird Well that's something that we were not privileged to see Yeah you were No you saw it It was light in that room And he said this morning

It was late in that room No it was light We're aware of the morning light Through the windows I guess you would have to have been in that room before because you know to look to the windows. So when is the last time you stayed up all night, Sherry? Oh my gosh.

I guess a few New Year's Eve's ago, not on a regular basis. I'm an early riser. I'm a golfer. So I get up at the crack of dawn and then, you know, about 10 o'clock I'm done. But you put it more hours than me. I'm a morning day person. But I have a lot of friends who stay up until two, three o'clock in the morning. But then I don't call them until.

10 or 11 in the morning, you know, they're late, late risers and they stay up in night, but it's not my style. I like to be out of that. You put in more hours than I do then. I'm an early, early bed, early rise. I just think it was painful for, it had to be painful because I've been in that experience as the bachelor and known what it feels like to be so tired and then to know that, yes, these people are, you know, when I,

I was the bachelor. I was in my mid-20s. And so to know 50 years later, they were putting in the same type of hours. That's not fun. In fact, Jimmy Kimmel. I admired them. I admired them. Yeah, I mean, I admired a lot. They pulled 24.

I bet you those women. I don't know. I think you chose well. I mean, I think the, the, the, the program, you know, whoever books all the people. I mean, they, they, they picked well so far. Now, I think it's going to turn into somewhat of a train wreck because it always does. I'm just kind of waiting for that to happen. And I guess that's what makes people view the program a little bit more.

I like it when people are funny, but not, you know, crazy, crazy. I'm honestly looking forward to more sappy stories. Yeah, I mean, I will definitely continue to watch it. It held my interest. I hope many continue to watch it. It's more than The Bachelor and Bachelorette lately. But then, you know, it's more age appropriate for me. It's more realistic.

for me to see this. Well, I can identify with that. My final, our final thought with you, Sherry, is a question I have. Obviously, again, we'll mention that you've been happily married for how many years? And I'm really going to give away my age. I am going to be married in June 60 years. That's amazing. That's amazing.

Something incredible. So I married my high school sweetheart and I married him when I was very, very young. and he is the twin brother of Amy's father. Okay. Well, very cool. You know, again, the final thought here is watching last night, there's always, I mean, for Ashley and myself,

one of our favorite parts about talking about the Bachelor franchise is, yes, the drama and the funny things are great and they're entertaining. But there's moments. I think it will happen more during the Golden Bachelor than it does during the other shows, where the show really kind of like makes an impact with reality. All of a sudden you feel like you know you're watching something that will affect this person after the show is done. And I think that brings, that's a really good part of reality television.

You feel like you can relate or you feel like the people on your television are feeling something that you know is going to impact them. And last night, watching our Golden Bachelor and Jessica and I were talking about this forever. Jessica cry through the whole show. She just gets emotional person. But he was married for 43 years to his sweetheart.

She sadly passes away. It's been a few years since she has passed away. And last night it was probably the first time he has had to break up with somebody in 50 years. For me, again, to relate it back to the other show,

it wasn't an unfamiliar feeling for me. I didn't go out there breaking up with everybody, but I knew it was something that could be expected, and I had some training, I guess, during that time and doing it, even if it still was hard. 50 years of not hurting somebody else's feelings, you know, romantically.

Sherry, what would you say to that? Yeah, I think it's, it's, you've had no, no practice. It's a hard thing. And as I said, he appears to be very genuine. So he doesn't want to hurt anybody. This is going to be the most difficult part for him is when he has to say goodbye to these women. Sarah, you married your high school sweetheart. Have you ever broken a heart?

Have I ever broken a heart? No, I don't think I ever have. I dated a little bit in between and so did my husband. But no, no, I haven't experienced. that really although have you my marriage i think i've sometimes broken my husband's heart and he's broken mine at times and we've you know been able to get get past it but i i mean i have i have felt that emotion from time to time my my mom and dad they've been married for over 40 years now but they got married when my mom was 22 and met when my mom was 20 and my sister and i are sometimes

say spicy at her, we're like, you don't even know what heartbreak feels like. Like, that's so crazy that you're just like going to go through life. You're in marriage. You can experience it with your spouse. I believe that. Yeah. It might not be a breakup, but it's, it can be heartbreaking. Marriage is difficult.

It really is difficult, you know, and you have to, you can, it's easy to be lovers in the beginning, but, you know, to remain friends, that's the challenge. That is the challenge. I believe that. I was coming from a wise old woman. Right. Well, you're a beautiful woman yourself. Thank you for being our first guest breaking down.

I was honored to be your first guest. It was a little bit nervous, but thank you for inviting me. No nerves here. I didn't want to turn my niece down. So good luck with this program, and I will pass the word on to my friends to please watch it. Let's do some watch party, Sherry. Come on. Get the people together.

let's pour the wine, let's celebrate. I can do that. Let's show everybody that age is just a number and love exists for as long as you want it to. Aunt Sherry, thanks for coming on the podcast. You're so welcome. Bye. Thank you. Hi.

Well, this has been it for the Almost Famous Podcast. Again, this is episode one of the Golden Bachelor. We had a blast breaking it down. We've blast watching it. We'll keep watching it and keep breaking it down right here on the Almost Famous Podcast. But until next time, I've been Ben. I've been Ashley. Bye.

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