The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - A Happy Couple Check-In with Charity Lawson and Dotun Olubeko

Episode Date: September 6, 2023

Ashley hangs out with our latest Bachelorette Charity Lawson and the man who earned her final rose… Dotun Olubeko! Hear the story of how her final choice was spoiled in a MAJOR way. And we get the... true reason why Dotun wasn’t very involved in the first few episodes of the season.  Plus, we get the latest on their plans to walk down the aisle!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:17 Hey, everyone. Welcome to The Almost Famous Podcast. Like I've been saying, the past couple episodes, today Ben's not here because he's in Italy, but we have some amazing people here to join us. instead. It is Charity and Dotten, the happy couple. We are so, so thrilled to have you. Charity, I messaged you a couple weeks
Starting point is 00:02:37 ago just saying that I was so enjoying watching your season and you as the lead. You're just like, you're just so enjoyable and easy to watch. Like, I don't know, I've related to you more than many Bacheloretts of recent past and it was just, you were, you
Starting point is 00:02:53 conducted the show so wonderfully. And this love story was one that I feel like, oh, we have and seen so intensely won like this in a while. And you guys, I'm just like, congratulations. I'm so, so happy for you. It was a joy to watch it all. Thank you so much, so much.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Okay, so like, where do we begin? Where do we begin? Okay, Don, how did you sign up for the show? Yeah, so I didn't sign up. I didn't, wasn't nominated. I didn't do that two weeks before filming I actually started. My roommate, he was in like a text threat.
Starting point is 00:03:29 with one of his old college buddies and then the college buddy was in the running he dropped out until the casting director told that guy he said if you don't want to fill your place I know it's last minute he put it in the group text and my roommate was in and my roommate thought of me right dad like a list of criteria he thought of me and then he texted me he's like send me pictures and I was like for what and he's like don't worry about it and then he's like y'all want to put you on the black basherette eventually thought he was kidding and then within an hour I had the casting agent call me and then the rest was history so it was crunch time doing six months worth of stuff in two weeks was tough and I wasn't sure I was going to do it but I saw this pretty little lady
Starting point is 00:04:07 I'm like okay I'll go guys your entire story may not have existed if this one guy didn't drop out and Don didn't feel like the urge to put it all together within two weeks holy cow it's literally like it's actual fate and I always say I like jerk around I'm like so what did the other guy, like, send me, like, what do he look like? I want to know. That would have been, like, his, like, replacement if he never came. But it's, like, everything truly did work out. And it's, like, crazy how, like, this show, obviously, like, the purpose of the show really
Starting point is 00:04:41 did bring us, like, together. Yeah. Like, throughout, we say fairy tale. And that's reason wise, because, like, it's even goes before, his name is Sam. Shout out, Sam. Thank you. Shout out. But it's even before that, you know, it's like, I mean, when, we're, we're, we're
Starting point is 00:04:56 moving to New York, finding room with these guys, the way that everything worked out truly just felt like it kind of led to her in this moment. And so as logical as we are, it's hard to deny the circumstances that let us together. So it's insane. And we still don't believe it to this day. But I'm just grateful for this crazy life, you know. Yeah. That is seriously magical. All right. Well, Charity, he didn't play the biggest role on the first couple episodes. He definitely was a silent standout okay? Like when he got out of his little package, the way he got
Starting point is 00:05:29 out of the limo, I was like my eye was on him, but he didn't become like a main character for a couple episodes. When did you know this guy's in my top three or four? Oceanside. So that's what I want to say week three. The Barbie date
Starting point is 00:05:45 like he killed his performance. It's like so good. But it was really that conversation that night when I took him up to my room and I was just like obviously like wanting to do something special for him but then he ended up just like truly changing my life in that moment essentially that conversation what you guys saw was a brief moment but it was a conversation that brought me to tears and like it was just raw tears genuine tears because that was like the first moment I ever felt really seen
Starting point is 00:06:17 by someone like obviously it was on an intimate level but like in my life like no one has ever like been able to talk about me the way that he did in that moment. And I was like, it kind of hit me. I was like, oh, God, like, it's happening. You know, you kind of get that feeling of like, okay, now I really am starting to recognize like this person could be my person. And it was like scary a little bit, but it was so, like, exciting. That's so beautiful. I remember that moment. It's, it's a good one. Dotton, when did you feel like, oh, this isn't a show? Like, this could actually be my wife yeah probably the same moment um obviously the chat and um i mean i would say it started week two when i got out of the show phase because i was like kind of like what the hell am i doing here
Starting point is 00:07:05 like that this whole fake thing is true like am i just a jackass for coming here um but i mean had that conversation uh after the barbecue um for the second row ceremony before the second row ceremony and then she just received what i said so well and so like for me that was important right because And I'm like, okay, this is not BS. She's actually looking for love. And she's very serious about it. And she connects on what I shared with her. But then, like she said, the ocean side was just so huge for us because we just,
Starting point is 00:07:34 that's where the foundation, I feel like started being laid for both of us together on that one journey. And then following, obviously, got that one-on-one and the rest was history. So, truly, yeah. You got the one-on-one. And then the next week, you got another one-on-one. And that was big news. Sherty, how did you finangle that one? I couldn't get enough.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I love it. I know that question, obviously, it's so tricky to answer because obviously at that, what we see that week, there's several guys at that point who hadn't had one-on's, but in specifics, like when it came to Daughton, I knew like that date for that date that I selected him for, which was the marathon, I was like, it's a long date. And I wanted to spend that day with someone that I knew, I was like, going to have, without a doubt, like, there was going to be no doubt in my mind that was going to have a great time. Because waking up, like, I mean, that was, that day started at 6 a.m.
Starting point is 00:08:28 And then we spent essentially the whole day together. So it was really important to me. But I was like, again, like, I was coming off such a high from the last one-on-one. I was like, all right, well, him again. And they're like, what? I'm like, nope, him again. Yeah. All right. Another moment that I loved was hometowns. Don, your hometown, blew us away. and it was after a series of hometowns they were all really so great like all the families you know we were a little bit skeptical of Joey's uncle
Starting point is 00:08:58 but besides that like great hometowns and then yours just was the cherry on top your parents surprising you back from Africa where you were you were both surprised right you fully had no idea yes that's not fair yeah and your mom Dotten talking to charity about like
Starting point is 00:09:17 how she's like already ready to plan the wedding and like she's praying with her oh my gosh it was the sweetest thing do you guys have any stories that we didn't get to see from hometowns that were really meaningful um mine is the biggest one which was um the after part so when we went to the drive-in theater he had that obviously that like beautiful like little movie clips um of us from like birth to like where we're at now like essentially our story and so at the end um i was sobbing wet face again. But that was when I actually told him I was falling in love with him.
Starting point is 00:09:57 So that was like a really special moment between us. It was we kind of bummed out that that didn't make air. But I was like, it's okay. Like it was kind of like one for us to keep. But now I was like, I love talking about that and sharing it because it definitely does kind of change the trajectory of like where I was at in the sense of like how I felt about him at that time, which was hometown. It's like, like you said, his hometown was so good.
Starting point is 00:10:19 And I was like, this was a perfect moment for me to, like, express how I felt about him at the time. Yeah. Yeah, that's the biggest one probably in the whole season, really, the biggest thing that probably wasn't shown. I would say also, like, just, our, my hometown just went, I mean, it went so well. I wasn't what I expected. Like, Nigerians aren't like, they don't want me to do this, you know? So my family just like, no, they're not going to think I'm going to find love on here, but they knew that if I went this far, then I must actually be, you know, have feelings for this girl.
Starting point is 00:10:47 And so everyone just put. their best foot forward and that's why they embraced charity and um you know me and my dad had a moment too where he was just like sobbing and that guy never cries i mean that guy is like he's insane he never cried but he had a moment where he was sobbing and like just connecting with me as a son and just like being proud and so that was a beautiful moment for us and he said things that he'd never said to me before um and yeah had amazing conversations with my sister too she had asked great questions about charity and had just the best insight so yeah there was so much in that hometown it really couldn't have gotten better um and so i wish they were able to show that but it's okay i get
Starting point is 00:11:22 it they have to fill time and so um yeah well you know there's something about the show that really makes you say things that you never thought that you'd say like out loud and be as vulnerable as you never could imagine you'd be but then i also just wanted to say they had to count out the falling in love with you because like that would be a dead giveaway there'd be no surprise to me there like already was surprise in my heart but like I but I still like couldn't wait to see the journey to get there and if you had seen that it would have just been like okay that's what we kind of like we told each other we're like well if that had been left in then people would be like I'm tuning out yeah totally well Don this is like super awkward when I bring up Joey because but I'm sure you're
Starting point is 00:12:10 used to it by now it's not awkward I love Joey it's not okay great great great great great great Charity, watching the whole top three week and beyond, I was like, what do you mean you don't know? I was actually losing my mind. I think I need to like say that. I know. Not her doing this. I'm probably on the spot right now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:38 I will be fair. Like, Aaron probably like, I was just, okay, starting afresh. Oh, yeah. Then you also let Aaron be in. And I was like, wait, well, you're very kind. But, like, we know that these two are, like, so much higher in rankings. Joey and Dotten definitely was, like, firm, like, final two, like, regardless of anything. But I was just, like, I mean, you guys can kind of relate as contestants.
Starting point is 00:13:06 But it's like, you're just under such, like, mental exhaustion. And so your emotions at that point, like, you can't really, like, I don't want to say I can't think straight. But, like, I don't want to say easily. swayed either, but it's like anything kind of goes. You're just like kind of going through the motions. And I don't like to say that either because it almost feels like I didn't take it serious. I definitely was. But there's a lot that's happening. So that week was very like jam-packed. Lots of like important decisions to make. You're nearing things down. So yeah, when I said I didn't know in my heart of hearts, I probably did know. But like in those initial moments when I was like
Starting point is 00:13:40 asked on the on the spot, like what am I feeling? I don't know. I really don't know. Like give me some time to think about it, but, yeah, it was, I mean, gotten for a while was, like, up there and was, like, clear frontrunner. But then obviously, like, when we got to Fiji, like, that's when, like, Joey kind of, like, definitely caught up. And so then that's when I was really, like, in a place where I was starting to become torn, but, like, my gut and I had to rely on that. So as you see, like, my journey throughout this whole season, it's, like, charity's intuition, charity's gut, like, when is she going to finally trust that and, like, rely on that. And so that's when I knew, like, what I'm feeling in this moment and how I feel about
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Starting point is 00:17:16 Listen wherever you get your podcasts. Let's talk about your family's opinion. I know that weighed heavy. I'm sure they truly loved you guys both in that first impression. But, you know, the way we see it is another way that, another tactic that they use to, like, throw us off. a bit and they seem to think that you lit up more around Joey or you were like more relaxed. Yeah. And like things just seemed heavier because I just think that like the love is heavier with
Starting point is 00:17:50 Doughton, right? So how like, so how was that really? How was their reception to both guys? And then elaborate on that conversation that you had with your mom or she was like, Charity, I'm not going to decide for you. That was one of the most amazing amazing. Love your mama. No. So my family both loved Joey and Dotten. And obviously what you said, you're spot on about like kind of another tactic used. But I think if I can make sense, like Joey was the first meet the family is what we see too. So that's the first time I'm also seeing my family. So how they see me in that moment, it's like I am like very excited. I'm very. glowing because it's like I'm bringing home someone for you guys to me, but I'm also excited to see my family. So like a lot of that energy was contributed to like my family, just being back in their presence. And so I don't think people like obviously take that into consideration at
Starting point is 00:18:52 all. But no, my family absolutely loved him. Like my mom, yes, she was a little bit more harsh, like harsh or harder, but she's just being protective. And I will like continuously defend that because my mom by no means doesn't like him like that's like uh incorrect narrative but like my parents both gave um their blessing and gave doten um their blessing for him to propose to me and so yeah it went great there was a lot of conversations that we didn't see like him and my sister had an amazing conversation that wasn't really shown in its entirety um him and my dad like we only saw like a brief with that and then obviously the sit down with my mom after I had to come back in and just kind of give them the rundown of what's what's going on again another mental exhaustion moment I was like
Starting point is 00:19:43 someone just helped me like rescue me and I kind of was like a little dependent in that moment of my mom to be like just give me like pros and cons and she knew in her heart like that wasn't going to be the most beneficial thing for her to do as a mom which I appreciate her for and looking back on like in that moment yes I was very frustrated but looking back I was her on that because I think if she had said verbatim like one person over the other that could have like some way probably altered the outcome and I didn't want that. So the fact that she trusted me enough to make the decision for myself because I'm the one that has to marry him. And so she believed in me and she trusted that. So. Okay. Well, you guys, I'm just so glad the way it
Starting point is 00:20:24 turned out. And I like thought that that was the most beautiful proposal would you guys both said to each other made everybody at home melt um i've told everybody who hasn't like watched the show in a few years that like yours is worth going back and watching because the love story is just so great um i want to talk about happy couples weekends and like after the proposal because after the proposal you get to have like a little vacation um and you know wherever you are for like three or four days how was that when the doors closed the cameras were off and you were like, oh my gosh, this is like a real thing. Was it, was it at all awkward or was it just wonderful? There's like, there's like a small period. Like once it's all started on the proposal,
Starting point is 00:21:13 obviously we get a couple of days to like hang out and like just culminate everything. And there's this like this like somber period of taking it all in. Yeah. Like what we, the hell we just did and went through. And like the love that I have and how we're going to take that into the next step. so it's very like kind of it's a little heavy right but not in a bad way in the best way possible I think both of us are just preparing for the next steps and then it only continued to grow and I think we took the lessons from the show
Starting point is 00:21:43 in terms of having those hard conversations talking deep using our communication skills that helped us bond in the first place and continued that into the happy couples and so we continued learning about each other we didn't like let our foot off the gas and it's only helped us grow more So it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's fun and it's challenges.
Starting point is 00:22:02 It's also fun to, like, be kind of sneaky. There's, like, something like, ooh, taboo about it, you know, it's like, ooh, like, no one knows. But, yeah, it's a weird mix of emotions with each stage, but I feel like we handled it so well. Wait a second. No one knows, but there was that one time that you guys both posted that you were at the same place at the same time. What happened there? Oh, we just were in town at the same time. We were not together.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Total coincidence. Total coincidence. Was somebody wearing wigs? No, we actually weren't together. I just was in town for press. But I was trying to be funny and it did not go over. We don't have to focus on that. But there was another slip-up by People magazine posted your finale.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Your finale results. No way that's on accident. how do you miss that i don't know that i was so bummed about that and it was even only up there for like a split second but as we know it anything up on the internet is just it's out so yeah um that was a little disappointing but so close to the end i know it was like right two days before unbelievable i was like this is not happening this is literally our luck that this is happening but a major publication spleen i'm not even i was like i'm not major public. That's what I'm saying. It'd be different if I posted it or someone in production
Starting point is 00:23:31 posted it, but no. I can't believe that that happened. And I can't imagine how annoyed the, you know, the behind the scenes crew must be. I saw those things, like the revealed accidental spill up, you know what, a slip up. And I didn't look like who it was. I just like, as soon as I saw like, Bachelorette spoiled by people, I was like, flying past this. Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about present day now. How are you brought to prepare for dancing with the stars?
Starting point is 00:24:05 Yeah. This has always been a critical challenge point for Bachelor leads getting off the show who decided to do Dancing with the Stars. How are you going to thrive through it? I think, if anything, we, like Dotten said, we have done the work and we have laid such a strong foundation for where we're at this point and that's only going to continue to grow
Starting point is 00:24:31 and evolve. So it's just prioritizing each other and I know obviously that sounds a little crazy because it's like well my priority now will essentially be dancing with the stars but never forgetting like what this is and what we have and our relationship that still is very much a priority and will be
Starting point is 00:24:47 and so just it requires it's going to require more time being more intentional with that and how we utilize that but I am very confident that we will be totally fine. He will be out there with me. So that definitely helps. And if at any point, you know, it gets too chaotic, I don't know, but we'll address it when we get there. But right now, like, I am, I don't have any any doubts. And he doesn't either. So I think us both being on the same page with that, he literally is like my biggest supporter and fan. So with that energy,
Starting point is 00:25:19 I think we will be able to push right on through. So you don't believe in the Dancing with the Stars curse. I don't believe in any of this nonsense. Like, are you kidding? But this is a real deal right here. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. This is not like a trial here. We're not, like for me, I don't think for her either. We're not, it's not a trial. Like, ooh, we're still kind of figuring things out. No. Like, no, this is locked in and like, and then like just like in any marriage relationship, you are going to work through things. So, um, I don't have any concerns. I'm, if anything, I'm just excited because I feel so good that she's going to freaking bring that marriage ball back home. Um, like she's got everything going for her. No pressure, baby.
Starting point is 00:25:52 but I'm super duper excited so and I'll be there out there and so like we don't have that distance factor and we'll just keep talking and I think it'll be good yeah it'll be fun thanks so true so what's the living situation going to be like when she's on dancing with the stars so he's going to come out to L.A. with me while I'm out there so we'll be where I'm living at he'll be living with me and then after that we'll relocate to our permanent place which will be in New York nice all right so Doughton you are going back to your job in New York I've been working
Starting point is 00:26:26 you're right at you're back you're I love it live as normal life as possible since coming back so yeah it's just going to be business as usual and just continue and taking it a day by day week by week kind of thing so yeah and I work remote so I can do this anywhere so
Starting point is 00:26:41 amazing perfect your work being remote will be very helpful in especially this Dancing with the Starz chapter of your life okay so let's talk about like engagement, marriage. What's the timeline here? Because I feel like you guys are not going to be one of those bachelor couples that waits a bit. And you're in, you would be correct. Yeah. You would be very correct in that assessment. We both talked about it. We don't want like the whole like five year engagement. Like I'm just not into that. Like our whole purpose and point of
Starting point is 00:27:15 coming on this was to find love. We found it. We feel very confident. Obviously, we're going to take our time with it not rush but like we are very excited about the idea and concept of planning a wedding getting married soon so maybe a year year and a half um we'll be yeah getting getting wet walking down the aisle so we'll probably have two weddings you will probably have two weddings just yeah small intimate one and then the big Nigerian one that everyone's like rooting for and waiting for so yeah my gosh so it'll happen in Nigeria um let's go Yeah, that's the plan. Yeah, so obviously things can change, but that'd be ideal.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Yeah. Oh, so nice. Absolutely. She says she's ready to whisk away. She's so freaking cute. It's so cute. Imagine that you're on an airplane, and all of a sudden you hear this. Attention passengers. The pilot is having an emergency, and we need. someone, anyone to land this plane.
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Starting point is 00:31:43 Okay, I have a few fun questions for you. guys but first well i guess to kick those fun questions off are you a vanderpum brules fan and like do you how do you feel about competing against ariana maddox i i like absolutely love her and i fan her because after that scandal like my god um so i actually recently just got into it because of that which is crazy he has no reality tv like who is this um how do i feel about competing against her um yeah i think it'll be fun and just excited i'm excited to really meet her and like to know her but yeah i don't really have any thoughts besides the fact that i am a fan of her so that's going to be interesting very that's awesome that's going to be so much fun you guys have
Starting point is 00:32:27 quite a height difference any like any fun jokey stories about that um when we're at the club i'm on i'm on the couch and he's on the floor so i'm always on something i'm standing on something yeah our hoogues are always a good Our Hoos are the best, though. What are our Kujus? The hug jumps, you know, actually. Oh, okay, the hot. Okay, yes, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:32:50 People have told me that I heard it called a koala jump. And then people corrected me once I call it a koala jump. And they're like, they're hoojus. Hoog jumps. Yeah. I'll learn that, too, just go on the show with her. Yeah, yeah. We're going to do Hoogu.
Starting point is 00:33:02 I was like, who would? Like this. No, he does it so good because he just like, it's like a smooth transition. Like, I just glad. Yeah, like it glide into his arms. third floor please do you do whojus in the real world
Starting point is 00:33:18 um sometimes yeah yeah when we're just like goofing off happy couples we haven't seen each other for pretty much the happy couple every happy couple just coming right through the hug jump so yeah now we do it like a little bit more goop here but still it's still there
Starting point is 00:33:33 I love it what's like something you guys bonded over in happy couples that you were like oh my gosh I didn't know we had this in common like something like pop-cultory like so much like we have very similar comedy sense like our sense of humor
Starting point is 00:33:52 is so similar music tastes right these are things that weren't discussed per se on the show but we figured out slowly but surely so it's hard to say like we both like gunna yeah I like to go see Beyonce together
Starting point is 00:34:10 nice Beyonce fan, love this. Singha ladies. You went to Vegas right after you were announced as a couple. How was that big debut? That was, it was fun. I always say we had like a really good time. It went by pretty fast just because we were just like enjoying each other and had some of his guy friends from the show come and they were there.
Starting point is 00:34:39 so that was interesting and fun. I was going to say, so that was weird. So that was fun. But just being able to be out and like, obviously we did have people like come up and recognize us. I would say I'd always check about it and say like I get recognized more with him just because of like the height difference. So they spot him and then they're like,
Starting point is 00:34:58 there she is, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, it was it was such a good time. And it was actually, I think, necessary for us to just kind of have that period right after to just like bask and just like. celebration and his birthday was two days after AFR, too. So it was just
Starting point is 00:35:13 a good week. Yeah. Amazing. Do you guys have any embarrassing things that happened either like in the press that you've done recently or during the filming that never got on air? Embarrassing. Like really like silly
Starting point is 00:35:29 stupid stories. I don't think so. I've been on my best behavior on this press. You've done a great job. You have not slipped up at all. I really have been on that as behavior. I think embarrassing. I will say, I will admit,
Starting point is 00:35:44 when we did the dodge ball day, I did get out one time, but, and I stayed in, I didn't leave, but that was because those rules were garbage, okay? Those were not real Dodge bar rules. So, like,
Starting point is 00:35:57 I'm not going to listen to your rules, like, if these aren't real rules. So anyways, long story short, that's probably like the only thing that I can think of that, like, oh, no, like it was kind of like I was like a little shaky about. Better than that, no.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Oh, so you're saying you cheated? Yeah. Okay. I mean, is it cheating if there's no rules? There were no rules? There's rules, but it's not real. I'm sorry, this is the first time I'm realizing this. I like you guys realizing things on there.
Starting point is 00:36:21 They're fake rules, okay? So it's not super exciting, but that's all I can tell. Got it. Yeah, for the most part, it's pretty straightforward. Nothing too embarrassing. Just cracking jokes and being idiots with the boys and connecting with her. I like creating fun, playful tension with couples on. the show. So I'm going to ask you a question now that we'll wrap up this podcast with
Starting point is 00:36:43 that you guys will be able to like really converse about later in the day. Great. When you think about living together because you've been in hotel rooms and such together over the past few weeks, what worries you about the move in about each other? Like does he, you know, just like does he like always leave his toothbrush in a certain spot or like does he leave the cabinets open you know something dumb like that you're looking he's got one don't has one no no no i'm thinking i'm thinking is there anything that you do because bring it up now it would be more fun to bring it up on a podcast than it would be to like actually say hey that's really annoying when you do that i will say he's fairly clean and organized
Starting point is 00:37:30 which i love thank god um oh man the biggest thing i feel like the biggest debate for us is going to be like it is a debate well we're not talking about the snoring thing oh okay it's the temperature like obviously i feel like that's normal for every couple it's like what i am i typically run cold and he's more hot right yeah and yeah that's a nice way to put it's like who do you mean the nice way to put it puts it on a ridiculous temperature it's like 60 and i'm like that doesn't make sense here's that here's that now i'll put it on like 67 and 66. Still too cold for me, for sure.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Thank you. Thank you. Right. But then she'll be like, I'm cold. And it'll get to like 68 and she'll like, I'm sweating bullets. So it's just like, what? Okay. Now you're kind of putting me under the. Thank you, Ashley. This is what you're doing. Well, I successfully did it.
Starting point is 00:38:25 And charity, I'm with you. If it's even 70, I'm cold. It has to be 72 for me to be comfortable. That's how I feel. I'm like, like, above 70, always. Y'all are sick. No. For women, like, you gotta get women.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Yeah, it's a woman thing. And, like, if I'm doing chores around the house and I'm moving a lot, then 70's fine. But if I'm just chilling on the couch, I'm going to be cold at 70. Exactly. That's actually so wild. Oh, this is going to be a little bit of a problem.
Starting point is 00:38:51 She's going to have to wear sweatshirts in the summer, and that's not fun. In the summer, I want to wear skimpy things. Exactly. I want to, like, not have to put layers. Yeah, like, Dotton, do you want to see her full figure, you know, in like a cute little workout outfit? Or do you want to see sweatshirts and sweatpants?
Starting point is 00:39:10 I do, but I don't want to see all I'm sweating. So, wow, okay. You know what I'm saying? You're saying? Like, it's yin and yang. You're done. He has, you know, a six foot seven body that I'm sure amidst a ton of heat. I can't relate.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Insulated. All right, guys, you are such a joy to be with. Thank you so much for coming on, spending your time, and for sharing your love story with us. We cannot wait to watch the next chapters. Thank you so much, Ashley. Until Ben, we said hi. I will. See ya.
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