The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - A Reunion After the Final Rose with Rachel Recchia, Zach Shallcross and Kaity Biggar presented by Hyundai

Episode Date: June 20, 2023

Ben and Ashley brought Rachel Recchia and Zach Shallcross together for the FIRST TIME since “After the Final Rose” and you won’t believe what happens! Secrets are spilled, stories are told, and memories are shared as they face each other for the first time after the end of The Bachelorette. Plus, Zach, Rachel and Kaity Biggar play a game of “Most Likely To” and things get HEATED!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and welcome to a very special episode of the almost famous podcast super special it is our Hyundai episode with everyone and what I mean everyone I mean like our new leads of the show okay we got rachel gabby Zach and katy all sitting around the room and i know like people are excited for us to dig in about the fact that there's a few of you sitting on the same

couch together and being smiley and great and all that. I think we're going to talk about that in other podcast episodes though. Yeah. Not when we're here. Just behind your back. Separate. Yeah. Like in more like therapy sessions. Yeah. Either way. We like do this to Rachel. I feel like you like to come around the almost famous podcast and just try to get yourself in the most awkward like moments and you just never get awkward. I feel like you come out of them like shiny. Some people would like crawl into a ball. You just get better.

For context, we had Clayton with her at the last one and everybody was like, was tongue lagging because you guys seem to be getting along quite well. You guys need to stop that though. She does great, but let's like prevent the problem. No, we started all to do this. There's not that many people left. we could really from the show. I know. I'm like, we need all the exes. Well, we need to come. That's a good point. Well, we road tripped here on the 2023 Hyundai Tucson plug-in hybrid.

We're in Santa Barbara right now. We drove from L.A. It was an incredible trip. We drove down to hang out with everybody, go to the Brett Young show. The concert was really, really fun. And the road trip was awesome. It was really awesome. Great ride in the 2023 Hyundai Tucson, a plug-in hybrid. I love that car. It's so easy to drive. That's what you kept saying. Did you guys take the PC. How do you get to Santa Barbara? Yeah. Yeah. We took the PCH, which I haven't done in a while, but have done before. And Ben has only taken the PCH before in like an old school convertible for the bachelor. My intro week, we got like a old Mustang and drove down the PCH. And I told Ashley yesterday, I was like, I was so nervous that I don't remember that drive because like you're

in his car with like cars driving alongside of you. It was so, yeah, so scary. Okay. So Zach and Katie are in here as well. Thanks for joining us. We got to hang out yesterday a little bit in L.A. And then you came up to Santa Barbara as well yesterday. How's the trip been so far?

Oh my God. It's been a blast. Brett Young. Yeah. Katie, like, might lead me for him. But it's okay. You know. Zach, we know what we can offer and he sings and you can't compete with it.

I'm screwed. Yeah, we can't compete with it. It's all right. But we did get to catch up with the two of you. You guys are thriving and doing great. Elephant the room. Is it great being together? I saw you guys staying outside.

Is this the first time you've seen each other since the show? Right. How is the. AFR, yeah. Yeah. First time we've ever like talked or seen each other. Yeah. But guys.

And one thing that happened, Ashley, during. our interview, and I thought it was really impressive. Zach and Katie were both talking about it. You know, Katie stayed friends with a lot of the people from Zach's season, and I just asked, Zach, is that awkward for you? Because I don't know about you guys as leads.

There was no, like, ill will towards anybody. It was just like, I would rather not run into you randomly. Like, that's just not a thing I would love to do, but you said, Zach, you enjoy it. Like, you're good with everybody. And if they're, if all the girls came to

Austin and hung out, you would be fine with it. Yeah, I'd be fine with it. It's like an interesting position to be in, like, regardless. And it might be like maybe awkward here and there. But as a whole, it's, they're Katie's friends. And they love her. And she loves them. And it's just about like not making it weird.

We're just all friends now. Now, okay. Well, girls from your season might be one thing. But why are she still another thing. How much was the dread going into seeing each other here? I don't think there's any dread. Well, I didn't know. Oh, come on.

You're lying. no obviously I just was like excited to like see him in person because I feel like it's always nice to be able to like have that conversation after like I did last time with Clayton and yeah I will say that like we talked about it a little bit and I'm like oh it's like going to be fine you know what I mean but then I was like oh my God what if Johnny was there with his so I was like now putting myself in your shoes I think I would have been like severely anxious but like you guys are this is all so great. We're all just like best buds backstage at Brett Young reading the lyrics off the screen. Yeah, so he needed to have the lyrics up there. A lot of artists do that. Yeah, thank God. Is that for us? Is that for me?

No, no, no. That's for him. In case he forgets the lyric. I was singing. It seemed like it's for me. A little life lesson them, for anybody listening. If you have somebody in your life, that you're just feeling even a tad bit awkward to be around because of something life happened.

Like something in life has happened. Do you find it healthy to confront it, to move on from it and heal from it? Like, has this been a good practice? Because this world throws you into very awkward situations all the time. Like, you're going to see people from your season. You're going to see people that you used to date on television. And on Instagram. On Instagram.

Like, nonstop. Yeah. I feel like out of everything. I've had to get really good. Mute stories post. News stories. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I see. I'm like, I just mute everybody. Oh, you do mute. Yeah. Okay. But how do you like ignore the e-news stuff? I like am not in the loop. Rachel knows.

Yeah. She's my news source, which I do appreciate. Okay. But no, I get what you're saying, Ben. I think like Bachelor Nation is, it's specific to this so at some point you do kind of have to face it but also like I think whatever feels right I'm also down with like suppressing any feelings you have until you have to face them because it's like whatever what else are you going to do you know um but yeah no I think

like this is grace like you finally just like get the gumption to be like hey like good to see yeah well again we're here in Santa Barbara thanks to the Hyundai Tucson that Ashley and I drove from Los Angeles to hang out with everybody we're very glad we did Ashley it's time for you to do one of the things you're best at yeah so here's how the game's going to work Ashley's going to throw out a bunch of questions that she's came up with I believe Ashley how do you want this playing out They just answer for themselves? No, no, no. This is a group event where it's like if they feel like it applies to them,

they'll say that's me. Or they could point at each other and be like, that's not me, that's her. Okay. So, that's Zach. Ashley,

take it away. Okay. Who of the bunch here is most likely to forget to text back? Me. Yeah, I thought so. And I don't even really know you. Yeah.

But yeah, but we need two. Yeah, let's make it a couple's game since there's a little bit of a disconnect. Okay, so Gabby and Rachel are definitely a couple and then you too. Okay, so Gabby of the two of you is definitely least likely text back and then. Katie, for sure. Okay. I'll text back like three to five days later, though. Like nothing.

I do that too. Yeah, I'm like, hey, I'm back. So you do respond. Yeah, I'm pretty good at responding. Just like not in a timely manner. I have business hours. So I'm active from like 10 to 4. Those are my business hours, six hour day.

But yeah, so it's fine. So, you know, I like to get on my computer and text back. What happens from 4 to 9.30? I'm like doing stuff, like playing with my dog, cooking dinner. I can't like text and cook dinner at the same time because then you're like not in it. Then I put a show on and then I retired to the bedroom. at like 8 p.m. Good for you.

Yeah, I do like my evenings. So you're a TV show in the bedroom person versus the couch person? I am in the couch. I'm a laptop in the bed. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. What about you guys?

Do you, where do you watch TV? We're a TV in the bed and you're asleep 20 minutes. And no matter what you put in. We talked about this. The best part of marriage is you have nothing else to do other than hang out with your spouse and go to bed at a ridiculously early hour and you're not missing out anything. We had a Friday where we were in bed

by like 7.45. No way. I mean, it was a crazy day that led up to it. But remember that day? That was awesome. Ordered wings, had him in bed. My God, I love that. I love to eat in bed.

It's my guilty pleasure. Okay. Of the two of you, who's most likely to, oh my God, this is too obvious. I'm going to even, I'll ask it out loud just because I already say it's obvious. to, well, spill the secret. Spill a secret.

We're both. Yeah. I'm wrong. I thought Gabby was going to gab. Gabbery's going to gab, you know? I'm a good secret keeper. But I also do a heavy amount of gossip. Yeah.

So she told me something or I told her something. Like, I feel like it depends on who the gossip is about. If it's like, if it's like gone down the line already, I'll tell everyone that I'll listen because it like can't be traced back to. But if I'm the primary source, we'll not be, like, speaking a word. It's a, it's a cultural thing. Yeah, it's a skill. Hi, my name is Enya Emanzor.

And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD, ADHD, Oh, my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, Psychobabble. Yes, yes.

Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. I remember Gabby when Rachel, because this is the first time you've been able to join us, but when Rachel's first trip with us, and she was talking about how supportive you are and how she can tell you everything.

So I remember that clearly because I was like, how cool is it to be doing this experience with somebody that you trust? And so, yeah, I had no doubt that you can keep a secret. Thank you. It really was. We always say it's the best thing to ever happen to us is to have two leads. Like, you know, we still get questions like, oh, like, do you just wish it was by yourself? Absolutely not. Like, there's literally no way.

Okay, between the two of you. Who will spill the beans? you're very private general son i'm a very private person yeah no i not not me no i think i'd be like if it can't get trace back to me but no like if somebody tells me something in confidence there's no way i'm telling somebody not even zax so do you guys think that like the secrets apply to the couple Don't we share.

You do share the person. We share stuff between us. We're sure that we wouldn't say out of that. Like you would like if your best friend told you something, you tell Zach because it's kind of like you're one and the same person. That's how I kind of think of it. Sometimes my best friends and I, like if it's a secret and they're like, hey, I don't want you to tell this person yet because if it's like in an engagement or something

if I don't want the other, then I'll keep it a secret. Yeah. But. Yeah. No, it definitely makes sense. No, it definitely makes sense. Like, if my best friend doesn't want me to say anything to anyone, then I'm not going to. Yeah.

Whereas for me, if there's something between me and my boys, I'm like, babe, you got to hear this. Yeah. Like, are you kidding me? Like, what the hell? I almost like it's applied that, like, the spouse or, like, you know, engaged partner might be, like, exempt to this, you know, they're there, they're in it. Yeah. Yeah.

I have a question. Okay. You go. This is mostly, because it would be a weird question for the two of you. This is mostly for Gabby and Rachel. who is most likely to have kids first? You? Yeah.

Rachel's very motherly. Yeah, I like really want to have a family. Not that you're not Gabby, but you know, like she's like, ready, it's like, thank you. Like caretaker vibes. Yeah. Oh my gosh. That's such a compliment.

And you'd be like such a fun, cool mom. I better be. What do you mean girls. Regina George's mom. I think that's, yeah, really. I do feel motherly. I take care of Genevieve, like, all the time. So, who wants kids between you two most soon?

Like it's both like an actual conversation that we want. Like we don't have like a specific year. Yeah. Or we want to obviously after the wedding. Yeah. No baby bombs at the wedding. No. But I mean, it happens.

Just kidding. Just kidding. Don't want to put that out there. But, you know, around the time right after the wedding. wedding, which we hopefully want to do in 2025. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So you guys will be together for quite some time, though, before then. That's good. Yeah. I was going to say, like, you want to definitely have your togetherness before the head comes in. So many things we want to do, travel, et cetera. Exactly. Yeah. Here's a question I just have out of curiosity for everybody in the room.

Everybody in this room has been on television. I always say when it comes to this show, there is not like a, you know, all of you have big personalities because you're great on TV. But, you know, sometimes TV never comes back to you. Do you miss it? Would you go back on television if it was offered to you? Is this something you still think about? Yes. Gabby.

I love me. I love the camera. I am not going to lie. I love it. I feel a lot. Yeah, same. I'm like it brings out a different side of you in like the best way. I always say it's like the best version of myself.

Literally. It is the most honest and raw. I don't know why that comes out on TV. Yeah. And you're like, oh my God. I love it. I'm not going to lie. I didn't know, honestly, until, yeah, until, like, after, because I had never been on camera before. But even, like, being in whatever, the mansion, seeing cameras for the first time, they never made me anxious.

I know some people visualize the camera, and they're like, wha! But I'm like, ah! I just have nothing to hide, like, as a person. I think it's a reality TV. Just because I love it so much. Would you ever do, like, love is blind? Like, I think that's the most... No, actually, married at first sight.

Brutal. Yeah. The most insane thing, right? But also, you know, if you get to a certain point, I understand. Very at first sight. Right. It's like the dating thing. Like, I would dabble in other reality TV, but I think I'm, like, maxed on dating TV. Because I feel like Bachelor is the best.

Like, the travel, you, whatever, when you're on a Bachelor season, you have girlfriends because you're, like, kind of castmates. Like, when we were leads. they treat you so well. Like literally I would do it again and again and again, just for the accommodations. Okay, Rachel, what's your take? I don't know.

It has to depend. I wouldn't ever say no, but I definitely do want to get back to my work eventually. Like, this has been amazing and so life-changing. So it would just have to really depend on what it was. I feel like you to mirror Ashley and myself, where Rachel, you're like, I could do it. And like, I wouldn't say,

to it. Same feeling for me. There's moments where I've missed, like, the lights and doing something that just feels cool. Ashley is like, I would do it in a second. Like, I miss it. I'm made for it. I'm great on it. But for me, I could take it or leave it most of the time in my life. I always was very nervous on camp, like very anxious, which I did not feel like my best self, like, shine through. What about the view? Well, I was going to say, I'm very similar with you. Like, I got anxious all the time. Even at the end, sure got easier, but it's still, like, in the back of your mind. But looking back at it, like, it's an exciting feeling to be in that, like, space. Do I want to do it again? I'm in no rush by any means ever. Yeah. No, like,

like, to see a camera. Like, to see a camera, to see a camera, but, like, Katie knows that, like, what I'd like to do, like, additional, you know, my normal work is, like, voiceover, which doesn't require, like, cameras or anything, but I like, like, good voice. I want to use, like, my voice. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Well, thank you.

Appreciate it. Katie. Yeah, no. I'm okay not to be on TV again. Katie, were you nervous on television when the cameras are around? Yeah. You seem comfortable. You seem very comfortable watching.

I think about the one moment that you guys were like having the serious conversation in the forest. That was so awkward. But she like doesn't care that their cameras around. I felt like. No, I did. It was not a good moment all for me. But no, I was quite uncomfortable in front of a camera. I think you get used to it, but it still is a little uncomfortable for sure.

We had to sit down with Zach and Katie. and they deep dived into that moment and Katie was making me laugh because she was explaining like they're literally in a swamp and it's raining and he's telling her this and she's like I this is though my worst nightmare is happening right like and I'm like you know you seem really comfortable specifically at that moment no obviously you didn't seem comfortable that moment I'm just saying that you handled yourself so beautifully and yeah so that like it seemed as if like You're like, I don't care whether who sees this. Yeah, listeners should go back and let's do it because it was like, I don't know.

I'm like, I could look into that. Maybe it doesn't make sense that I'm saying that. I don't know. I just poised. Poised. I think that's what I'm thinking. Like, you're so good on TV that. Oh, thank you.

Appreciate that. Yeah. Do you think any of that has to do with the fact that you were in love? And so there's like a comfort because TV was just kind of the thing that had to get you to the end? I don't know. That's a good question. I don't know what I answer that. Also, you just don't really know what your situation would have been like without TV.

You know, like that's just how you met. Yeah. Yeah. Hi, my name is Enya Jumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not. out the podcast for you.

But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. I want to go around the circle now and ask about what the biggest misconception,

misunderstanding, something that would surprise people. about you would be for each of you. We can start with Katie because honestly, Katie, I don't really know that there's any misconceptions. She just seemed like a sweet, wonderful, wholesome person. I don't know.

I mean, when I say that, I mean, on TV. Like, that's your, like, M.O. I just think that, like, everybody just thinks that, like, oh, Katie, she really much was pretty perfect. No, not a perfect person at all, but I don't know. It's hard to answer it yourself. Like, to have an inside of yourself.

Okay, why don't you do it for the couples? So swap it. So Zach, is there anything about Katie? Is there anything about Katie that would surprise people to know that is a little bit out of characters to what we saw on TV?

I'm very independent person. I don't think that was really shown on TV. Yeah, I'd agree. Like what you're used to, like she likes to do everything on her own and I'm someone that like wants to help as much as I can and try to fit my way in possible

and it's something like we work on and stuff. But she's very independent. She's just used to that. Okay. Okay, so then Katie, what about Zach? Very organized? That's the misconceptions. I don't know.

So you're unorganized. It's just like something that like was shown on TV. That you were not or that he was a beer of all this suitcase. Like check out these packing cubes. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I could answer Zach's.

I could almost. I would, okay. I would say like similar. to me the like a sense of humor or like a joy like I can laugh and I can converse like it doesn't get shown well on television when you are a little more anxious and you are a little more serious TV doesn't always display that but outside of that like you have like a great sense of humor and like you're really funny and you're great conversationalist but like same with me when people watch my season they're like he's super boring because he just is so serious all the time well yeah I was

super nervous. So, like, I didn't want to mess up. I was in my own head. But, like, there's a when you get off of that, like, there's a more of a lightheartedness, I guess I would say. So people probably didn't see that. They think of Zach from television. They're not like, oh, he's just a super lighthearted guy. No, I'm a robot. Yeah. That's what they thought. I was like, same. Same. That's actually really good. I, I don't know. I was, I was going to say, he's definitely more. Zach smiles more and he's definitely more personable in real life. thank you. Thank you. But, I mean, that's just, I mean, it was the same thing with me. Like, it's, it's just some personality types aren't a Gabby on television where, or an Ashley,

where you're just like, yeah, they're more alive than ever. All right. So for the two of you, what's a misconception? I think I have one. You got reamed for your style, but you're so, unrightfully so, you're so stylish. Yeah, you are. Oh, yeah. That was real bad. Well, you were saying to me last night, if you don't mind me to bring this up. that like your boobs were so big that you felt like you couldn't wear certain things and that you and Carrie had some difficulty of your picking outfits. Yeah and it was hard because we would share the same wardrobe like room and I would see all the dresses like Gabby would wear and I was like oh I would love to

wear all that and I couldn't wear anything and I was just already tired and uncomfortable so I feel like I was just not in my vest had space for clothing but like a weird like they style the lead almost like business casual and like these are not this isn't what I'm I would wear like we're I feel like we're like up with the trends and like living in LA you know and but it's like that's not how they dress you I'm saying it's a bad thing because it was like expensive clothes which it's like you'll never get a chance to do that again but I think kind of figuring out your own style in that sect was like hard I totally get it when you look at the racks you're like okay this actually looks really good on when they put

it on and like they style it but it's never I think I would pick at the mall myself yeah like I look like a secretary. You had really good outfits. I'm not talking about like the evening wear. The evening wear is always gorgeous. Yeah. And like so fun to be in a ball gown. Like when do you get to do that as an adult?

It's such a different world. Like as the bachelor, I was so ecstatic to have somebody picking out my clothes. In fact, I wrote a letter to Warner Brothers afterwards saying, I have no style. You guys gave me like the wildest looking ties and shirts. I would love to have those because if not,

I'm going to wear like jeans and a t-shirt. for the rest of my life. And it's your fault. Yeah, it's your fault. So please hook me up. All right. What about Gabby? I mean, we always talk about this. Obviously, Gabby's the funniest person I know and she's really good TV and like people watch her and they just, I feel like sometimes think that she doesn't take things seriously. But she really does and she really cares about everyone. You're so emotionally intelligent. Like one of the smartest people I know. So I feel like you

can be so fun and funny. Obviously you are. But you have like a completely different side to you. I feel like was shown a little bit more on our season. Like they got to see that with you. Yeah. Years of therapy. You have a Gabby, you do have like a Caitlin Bristow-esque. Like Caitlin always intimidated me when I was on the bachelor's because she was so emotionally intelligent and so funny at the same time that I always felt like I couldn't keep up. Like I was always so like I always feel like I was one step behind Caitlin when I was on her season because she was always one step ahead of me. Do you feel like any of the guys during your season ever felt? Yes.

Okay. Which I think like it's less. I think it is different from men and women just like in general. We're different breeds of people. We've been through different things. I think women are naturally more in touch with their emotions because we're allowed to be. Also just being a woman is another layer of almost like difficulty that kind of teaches you things that men don't have to go through and age. women do mature faster than age and there was not I think who was the oldest on Nate was 33 he had a kid he was very emotionally mature because of everything he's been through so like it takes life you know and I think like that was honestly the biggest difference if you put like mid 30 to late 30 year old dudes on The Bachelor like it would be completely different but they're not the one signing up there wasn't one person on my season of The Bachelor that was intimidated by me like I know it like they you are a liar because I was intimidated by you and I wasn't on your

your season exactly you weren't on my season so that doesn't count no but it's not as if like i didn't have heart eyes when i met you at mentel all well because we just knew we had a special box he's like we just knew we were going to record a podcast afterwards six and a half years in what about for you rachel was there people on your season that you felt like were intimidated by you or like couldn't keep up i mean i don't know not really i mean yeah i think you're also very emotionally intelligent and you know what you want like you're not a afraid to say what you want, which I think is amazing and crucial. And I think naturally it kind of intimidates like men. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. The whole time my head was just spinning,

just trying to figure it out. I don't know. Well, Hyundai is all about evolving their journey. And we, and journey is a word that we use a lot in the bachelor franchise. And now I use it casually in everyday life and it's just like, wow, you are a product of TV. Whatever. the bachelor is actually evolving their journey by adding the golden bachelor and i think everybody wants to know whether your grandpa is officially casted absolutely not really yeah he's like gabby remind them about me i'm like grandpa they know who you are they don't need reminding well what do you mean why wouldn't why can he go on he's he's he's just like a grandpa like he's there's gonna be There are going to be grandpa's on here.

He's 84 years old. Yeah, I know. So he's a little bit on the upper echelon of the age range. Don't make me say it. I don't know what more there is to say when it comes in like the love realm. Like starting at age 55, they're not going to throw grandpa John in 30 years later. Like also I die when people on Instagram are like, what about Grandpa Joe? Like my grandpa Joe.

Like get his name right. He does get recognized everywhere. He loves it. His head is so big. Oh, he's thriving. Thriving. Yeah, good for him. Yeah, he loves it.

Yeah, he is the most popular guy at card games. Yeah, yeah, a bridge. He's crushing it. Yeah, and in the airport. He literally spoiled Dancing with the Stars. Really? Yeah, and it got to Instagram. What do you mean he spoiled?

It wasn't it live? No, because you know how they keep the cast secret. Oh. So we were... This is why he can't be the bachelor. Because he can't keep any secrets and he would be telling all of the girls he loves them within five seconds. I'm not kidding.

He would be the messier. So I'm thinking about him as being a contestant on the future hopefully episode or season of the Golden Bachelor Bachelorette. Yeah, I have a lot of thoughts about this. There would have to be a nurse on duty 24-7 for med management.

Like this is wild. I don't know if they've thought this through. And where are they going to sleep? They can't do the bunk beds. They would get delirious. and everybody would be like flipping, yes, like their nights and days. Yeah, they'd have to be like restrained. It's like turned into a full-blown hospital. Handles in there.

Literally shower chairs. Like, do you guys? Is this not a show you want to watch? Like, I want to watch it. I don't think I would tune in. Like, I'm not going to lie.

I don't think this is what the franchise needs. Like, it's just not very relatable. Oh, I think it's fantastic. It's just not relatable. It's funny. I think it's so good. All right. All right, to close up here,

as Ashley was speaking about Hyundai is all about evolving your journey. We've been through a journey. Just to close up, if all of you could answer, what has been your favorite part of the journey on this franchise so far? I'll go first. I mean, hands down,

finding my fiance. It was a show, obviously, during this season, but I wouldn't trade it because it got me to the position I'm in now and very happy. It's the same answer. Easy.

You guys are going to get married. I know I'm like same I said when I when I left the interview with Zach and Katie the other day I was talking to Hana I think and I said I have never seen a couple from the show as just like happy

and content like I look at the two of you and I think I told you this if there's ever a headline that you guys broke up I message you on Instagram and be like stop right now get back together this is perfect um there'd be an April Fool's trip

yeah but you guys just seem like as strong as any couple we've ever met. And we usually get to talk to the couples afterwards. I know that we've said before, like, oh my gosh, they're totally making out of it. I'm thinking about like Serene and Brendan right now, right?

But like there's a calmness about you guys that is different. It's like you guys are not trying to be over the top or prove anything. You just are. Yeah. Appreciate it. You guys have like a confidence in a relationship.

Like even the way you talk about marriage, you're like, oh, it's a sure thing. Couldn't relate. No. I was like, I just want to get to know it. him and spend as much time with him. We're just starting our lives. What's your middle name again?

I forgot name. Yeah, like so many questions. It is really refreshing to see. Like, yeah, you guys are amazing together. The two of you, what's been your favorite part? Definitely, Rachel. No joke. We went through a lot of shit.

We had the best time. We have so many memories. And the only thing I got out of it was like, obviously this amazing friendship. So definitely. Now we get to do these cool things together. It's so nice to have like a partner. You guys really like you did come out as a couple.

That's so sweet. Well, thanks to all of you for joining us. Again, thanks to Hyundai for helping make this happen. We really did have a great time yesterday. Ashley and I don't get to just sit and catch up on life because we're usually recording and going off with our lives. We had a couple hours in the car, a beautiful drive. It was so nice, Ben. We get to do it again today. We get to do it again. How lucky are we, right? We're so lucky. The smooth ride that is the Hyundai Tucson. That's right. Well, until next time,

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