The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - A Sip of Chardonnay with Aly Wente

Episode Date: August 21, 2024

Ben Higgins and Bob Guiney sit down with Aly Wente of Wente Vineyards for a look into how your favorite wine is made, how to properly taste and enjoy wine, and how to find the right wine for you!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I would say this is like the type of place, Bob, that when I sit here, all I can think about is I want my wife sitting next to me. It's like a memorable place. I literally just said as we were walking up the steps, my wife is going to be so pissed off right now. Yeah. Because Canyon would love this place. She went to school in Berkeley.

So she loves this entire area. And then as we're walking up the steps and I'm seeing all the concerts that have performed here. And just the property and the facilities, I'm like, oh, my God, my wife is going to be very upset at me. The bachelor's known for romance. Absolutely. This place is romantic.

And we have Ali Winty here, who's a part of the family. for Winty Vineyards. Yes. Allie, thank you for joining us. Oh, it's fun to be here. Thank you for, first of all, and thank you for the Chardonnay.

The Winty Chardonnay is famous. Not only, you know, worldwide and globally and regionally and domestically and everything else, one of my very best friends who lived in Walnut Creek told me, first of all, he's like, you're going to be horrible on that golf course today. He was right. Secondly, he's like,

you are going to love the chardonnay. And he and his wife would come here all the time for all sorts of different events and things that you guys do on the property and he's like, you're going to fall in love with the place. And I truly have. Well, good. You know, we are known most for chardonnay.

My family's been making and growing wine here in the Livermore Valley. We also farm in Arroyo Seco, Monterey. So we've about 3,000 acres between Livermore and Monterey in total. But we've been doing that since 1883. So 141 years. and I'm a fifth generation member of the family. And in that time, Chardonnay is really what put us on the map.

Way back when we planted our first acres of Chardonnay in 1908. And then 1912, we had about four acres. And since then, kind of propagated Chardonnay forward, created our own signature style, got a clone made. This is all getting really geeky. I know, I love it. I love it. I love it.

I love it. I love it. I really love it. But yeah, so today, and I know because they made me have a terrible internship one year where I had to call a directory of California wineries to see if they use the Wentee clone. So it's a little bit of research, and it's been a long time since I was intern age, but hey. But through that, we were able to say that we think about 75% of all California Chardonnay has genetic roots back to my family's property.

No kidding. Really? Yes, really. we're the godfather of Chardonnay, as you could say. Okay, so this is how I imagine this podcast going. I really want to get into, like I want to do a segment getting into wine. What makes wine great? What makes wine special?

Why your chardonnay stands out? Because I think it's important and I think it's a question a lot of people ask. But I want to start because this is mostly an audio media that people are going to be listening to. We're sitting, as Bob and I were mentioning, in a place that is special. It is, you know, it has like a, this, like, energy to it. It's, it's a place that's romantic. Someone would be called, like, a sacred. Like, it just feels like a place when you sit here, you don't want to leave.

Thank you. Well, to that point, the architecture, like, I'm looking at the windows. You have, like, a honeycomb window behind you, Ben. We got, like, all these, like, cool, like, old-style windows. It's almost like an, it's, like, a, I don't even know what the right, I want to say, like, an Aztec, like, type of finish, but it's not. But it's like, the building is, like, this old-school mission-style. California. Classic California. It's such a cool property. Olive trees, palm trees. Like, you really are

in California. Like, to me, it's quintessential California. And was that intentional by the family? Like, like, let's make this place be what we know people. Like, I feel like I'm in the Ohio Valley. You know what I mean? Yeah, I love Ohio Valley. I do too. Yeah, it's a beautiful place. Yeah, you know, our intention is always to stay true to the history and what's authentic to this place and bring it forward to the future. So this site is magical. I totally agree, especially when the light's hitting just as it is right now around. I don't even know what time it is. I don't know what day it is.

5.30. It's like golden hour. It's just beautiful outside. And you could sit on that patio all night long until the sunset. So walk us through if you can for anybody listening. We're sitting right now in your event center that does some live music. What else do you have on property? We obviously played the golf course today.

that is beautiful. I'd highly recommend it. As a golfer, it is a place that I would highly recommend people coming to. Thank you. But kind of give us a like a quick overview of this property that we sit on. Yeah. So it's a historic property. It was the original Crestoblanca winery back in 1882. And my family ended up purchasing it and kind of reviving it and bringing it back to life. It's now our main home for wenty vineyards, our tasting lounge, as we call it. So you can come here. You can do wine tasting. group tastings. We also have a full catering team so you can have your wedding here. We do big events, concerts, as you talked about. We've had some pretty big names throughout the

years. Now we're... Like who? Oh, God. I mean... I saw Kenny G. on the wall. There you go, Kenny G. I saw a lot of people on the wall. Yeah, you just tell us. We'll quiz you. Well, okay. I want to throw names out there that I thought I saw, but I don't want to be wrong. So you tell us, yeah. Yeah, I mean, we've had like, you know, the Beach Boys to... Cheryl Crow to Sheryl Crowe Kenny Loggins

you know like some classically big names I mean there's tons of them so they're they're escaping my brain right now but there's tons of them she's going to have BAM from TV here soon. There you go

yeah I have a feeling I have a feeling Bann from TV that'd be a big one next on the one okay so you've obviously had incredible talent come through you have the tasting room what else when if somebody came and visited. Yes. What else could they experience here on property? You could host a private dinner here,

a private party, food and wine pairing experiences. Like you said, we have our championship Greg Norman designed golf course. So that's available to you. And that's just all right here. You can park in the parking lot, attend a wedding, go wine tasting, play some golf without moving your car. May I say this? So we got to play the golf course today. And one of the, you know, I hit my ball many times into your lovely vineyards. I thought you're just going to stop, but I hit my ball many times. Many times, which I did.

And then oftentimes, they unfortunately escaped into your vineyards. But I would find myself in, and that's something that most people don't get to experience, frankly. Like, yes, I hit a horrible golf shot. It went, you know, into this area. It's not supposed to go. I'm trying to fetch my ball,

but I'm also standing in the vines. Like I'm standing, you know, in the grapes. And it's like, that was kind of a cool, moment for me. Like I was literally looking for my ball and then I and we even took a video of it. I'm like look how beautiful this is. Like look at these grapes and Ben's like oh my God you know

because Ben's a little more sensitive than I am and he notices things that I might miss and Ben's like look at how lovely these gorgeous vines are and I'm like holy smokes he's right so we took a video of them but it was like something that most people don't get to experience and so when you play the golf course

if you do hit a foul shot occasionally which I did and do, you will get to experience your vines up close and personal. And you will say goodbye to your ball. I couldn't find it many times. Yeah, no, I mean, the golf course is really special. It is, you know, up and down the hillsides. It's built into the vineyards.

Yeah. We make wine from the vineyards in the course. It all goes into our Wetmore Vineyard Cabernet. And we, you know, it's amongst oak trees, sycamore trees. There's wildlife out there. Careful, don't go searching for your ball too far. heard a i thought i was being chased by a fox or a coyote yeah and there are olive trees yeah there's a moment i don't know if you've ever been here but there was a moment where i was on the course and i felt

like i was like in israel there's the olive trees and there's the hills and there's just like there's just greenery around it i mean it's it's it's a really incredibly beautiful place this course every time you turned around there was a view or something new to look at i've never played a course in the midst of vineyards? Is this one of few that you know of? As far as I know, we're the only winery that also owns and has its own vineyard. So I can't say, though, if there's vineyards on other courses, but I think we're pretty unique in the sense that we have a vineyard and a golf course. And you said that the reason the golf course exists here is because it's kind of your dad's, like it was your dad's dream, right? Yeah, it was definitely his vision and his

dream. You know, we own so many acres of land. And for him, it's always been, how can we make the Livermore Valley a true destination and have people come here and have many reasons to come here? Obviously, wine is one of those reasons. But if people are coming here for golf, they're more likely to also drink wine while they're out here. You know, they need multiple activities to do. So it was born of that. And of course, his love for golf. I mean, my grandma always tells this story about how the principal of my dad's school when he was in high school used to call her all the time

because my dad was playing hooky he was on the golf course and my grandma was like well he's going to have a great shot my whole family loves golf so he's never in trouble for it and here we are today with the golf course her dad never get along really well

yeah he's a pretty easy guy to get along with he sounds like a very nice dude I like that you call him philippedia Philopedia yeah he's our historian our little wealth of knowledge yeah I think there's you know there's got to be so much

history to this land and what you guys had done with it. I mean, obviously, you know, like I mentioned, it's a storied land for the Chardonnay, but man, I got to be honest, I had a great Merlot tonight as well. I had a really beautiful cup, you know, the, the, the Sauvignon Blanc was amazing. So it's like everything I had was so good. But how did you become known for the Chardonnay? Like, why was that the one thing that somehow took you guys over the top? Yeah, well, I think it's because of that you know, our cultivation of a specific style of chardonnay. So, and in the fact that we had these vineyards planted in 1912, and it was a whole lot easier to come to our property and get a cutting and plant chardonnay in your vineyards, then go figure

out how to get cuttings from Burgundy, which is what we did. So we had imported burghun cuttings from Merceau and Montpellier and created our selection based off of those cuttings. And so people were then taking our style that we were really creating. And my great-grandfather, the one who really started this program, was looking for stone fruit, musket, and a little bit of citrus. And so he had a select style that he was looking for. And he really would taste the berries, each harvest, tape the vines that were the most flavorful.

And for the next harvest, he would graft that into a new plot of land. So he was the one who really kind of started that whole. flavor experience. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so now it has a really specific style and I think wine makers have come to appreciate it for Chardonnay. And so a lot of them use it. And that's really what's planted around California. You'll see some brands on the back of their label. We'll say they use the Wentee clone of Chardonnay because it defines a specific style. And it's also a wonderful club. Oh, it's really cool. That's got to feel really good. It's really special and there's some really fancy brands that use that and we'll say it on their label. So it's pretty fun.

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Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?

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to actually appreciate, you know, your first sip? Yeah. What I would do is, you know, start gently swirl your glass. Put your nose into the glass. See what you smell. Maybe swirl it again. Put it into your mouth. Hold on a second. I'm so sorry. Uh-oh. Empty glass. All right. My glass is oddly empty. I don't know why this has happened. This is when he snaps his fingers. What is Sam hell. Another glass. You are so kind. Thank you. Yes. No, you definitely can. Is there a way to, is a specific pouring methodology or no? As long as it gets in the glass. Yeah. Yeah. That's the key. Yeah.

There you go. Okay. You swirl it. Swirl it. Smell it. And swirl it again if you want to be fancy. I do. I can't do this actively and talk, so you guys will have to do it for me.

Put it in your mouth. Take a little sip. Swish it around. You can open your mouth a tiny bit. Get a little air in there if you want. If you want to be really fancy. Yeah, there you go. And swallow it.

Now that's like a more professional way to taste it. it. For me, you know, sometimes I think wine can be a little intimidating because we tell you what you're supposed to smell and what you're supposed to taste. Like it's a note of tobacco and charcoal. It's a little complicated sometimes and it doesn't need to be, you know. So I always say, I actually don't love telling people what they should taste unless they really want to learn and they want to know. But I'm like, what do you smell? What do you taste? Because there's no really wrong answer in this. I got to be honest. Everyone's telling a blog, which Reese just poured me. I did everything you said.

Yeah. It was amazing. Like there is, like, I don't really even know what notes I'm supposed to look for, but there's stuff in there going, there's things going on in here that I wouldn't even imagine. But I do have this question for you. So, um, so you, you grow up in this family, obviously. Yeah. You know your lineage.

You know, I'm sure you grew up running around this land, this property. Do you, you know, like, you're in high school, whatever, you're going to college. Are you thinking, okay, this is. I'm going to take this business over. I'm going to be the person that runs this industry with my other family members or are you thinking

how does that work? My dad was a Detroit cop so I was like, well, I'm going to hand out flowers on TV someday. That was my obvious path. Like, what is your obvious path? Yeah, I wanted nothing to do with it,

which is I'm sort of the unique one of my family. I think most of my family members wanted to work in the business. For me, growing up, you know, Livermore is a much bigger feeling town than it used to feel when I grew up here. It was a farming community, and I was, you know, it felt like it was everywhere, the family business. And I really wanted to spread my wings, be my own person, not have anyone tell me what I should do or who I should be. So I went to school to be a broadcast news reporter. So that's what I wanted to do.

I was carrying around a tripod and a video camera. No wonder you're so good at this podcasting thing. Yeah, you're very good. Oh, thank you. So that's what I wanted to do. And then I had a kind of crazy internship in Oakland for one of the local news stations, you know, crazy what people do in that business. I mean, it's like 15-hour days in a van. You're going into scary situations.

Yeah, it's not always glamorous. Yeah, it's very, it's actually completely not glamorous at all. No. And so I thought, okay, you know, I like storytelling. I love to write. I like media. what can I do, got into marketing. And then I sort of fell into wine.

And I was living in San Francisco with my boyfriend now husband at the time and really enjoyed food, love going wine tasting, love food and wine. And I was like, oh, you know, what am I pushing my family business away for? And then you get older and you're like, no, this is actually pretty awesome. And I could go work in an industry that's my true personal passion, love food and wine. and work with my sisters, my dad, my cousins, my aunts, my uncle, and feel so fulfilled. And I don't think I ever realized how fulfilling it would be until I actually came back to work for the family, which wasn't for quite some time later.

But, yeah, it's pretty special. And I'm so glad I did. Well, I think we all are. Yeah. So listeners out there obviously are hearing about Winty Wines and curious, they probably are familiar with it, right? like they're cute they're they're familiar with the brand but i hope i've definitely seen the brand yeah oh good so well you know for somebody out there listening where can they find your wines yeah all across

the u.s really kind of you know are you have international distribution uh where can they find it and maybe if they're just like dabbling right they're like your your weekend wine drinker they don't know like which wine would you recommend they kind of start with entry level yeah yeah yeah that's a good question. So our wines are available globally. We sell wine in 75 countries around the world. Most of our wines, not all of them, are available nationally. So if you're listening, it really depends on where you're located. We do have a wine finder on our website. So if you wanted to go to that, plug in your zip code. What's the website? At wentyvenyards.com. And if you scroll all the way to the bottom, there'll be a link that helps you find your wine. And if you put your

zip code in, you'll be able to find the nearest place to you that sells our wine. That's awesome. But, you know, in the most part, you could go to your local grocery store. You should hopefully be able to find some of our products. There's a lot more distribution here on the west side of the country. The east side, it's there. It's just a little spotier, depending on where you're located. But yeah, so if you're just getting into it and you're looking for entry wine. We have a, we're not drinking it. It's a different chardonnay than this, but we have what I call what I call, what is called our morning fog chardonnay and it's super balanced. It's like 50% stainless steel, 50% neutral oak barrel. So it's not super buttery. It's not totally crisp. It has a little

body, but it's really approachable. I jokingly call it our gateway chardonnay because, you know, for all the people who say, oh, I don't like chardonnay. I'm like, well, try this. You know, chardonnay can take on so many different forms it can be super heavy super light it's one of those rare varietals that a winemaker really can have a huge impact on right um and so sometimes i think if you don't like chardonnay you just had the wrong one don't give up on it try something different and that one is a kind of our i think approachable chardonnay and then we have a southern hills cabernet which is sort of the brother if you will to to that wine and super easy drinking cabernet the tannes aren't going to totally dry your mouth out.

You don't have to have a big fat steak to drink it. It's really lovely. And, you know, all of our wines are certified sustainable. So is our winery. So it's all handled with care. We plant the vines. We harvest them. We bottle them.

We package them. We sell them. So everything we do ourselves. And I think there's also a quality that we uphold ourselves to when our name is on the label. So we want people to be able to trust us. And we want to feel good about it. How's our name on the label? Well, and from that perspective, too, I mean, from a family-owned vineyard, aren't you one of the few last remaining family-owned vineyards that doesn't have, you know, some type of...

Feels that way, right? Feels that way. You know, there's so many family vineyards now, big and small, but we are the longest continuously family-owned winery in the country. So we're now one by the fifth generation. That's an incredible accomplishment. I wanted to make sure we talked about that. She said that to me earlier today. I'm like, come on, you tell it or I'm bringing it up.

Let's go. So you are the longest family-owned winery in the country. Yes, that has not skipped a vintage. So we've made a vintage since our first in 1883. Even through prohibition, we made wine for the church. We were rearing to go. Communion wine. Yeah, there you go.

That was it. In multiple varietals. Mm-hmm. Yep. And we're farming, you know, the same plots of land that we did all the way back in 1883. And Sauvignon Blanc, especially. Oh, my God, this is so glad. Yeah.

I got to ask a good question. I'm curious about. Okay. I don't know if it makes any sense. Somewhere, if you can't tell me, you don't tell me. I'm nervous. Somewhere within your homes, underneath the building we're in, do you have, like, what's the oldest wine your family still has that has not been opened?

You know, we have some pretty old ones. We have, not from the 1800s. I wish. I mean, that would be really cool. But we have some like 1930s, but they're really like, I wouldn't open it at this point.

Like it's really just memorabilia. Right. You wouldn't open them. No, I mean, it's going to be vinegar. I always wonder, like,

what's the number of it? Yeah. Like, how old? Like, I'm just curious, like, how old is it till it's no longer good?

It depends. You know, that's a hard question because why making practices were so different back then. And then how was it stored? And a lot of the time, it's really interesting, people will call us and say that they were cleaning out their cellar and found this super old bottle and they'll come drive it back to us. That's how we've collected a lot of our old bottles. You know, I wish that my grandfather, great-grandfather, great-grandfather, great-grandfather had thought more about keeping some of these things for history.

They didn't so much. But we have a small collection of some pretty fun, unique wines. But, yeah, 30s, I would say, is probably the oldest. and it's more just fun to look at. Their dinner parties as a family have to be so cool. Can you imagine? First of all I got to meet Philipedia. Yeah.

Well, like they have a big family, like, event in life. And all of a sudden, like, dad's bringing out this, like, 1975 vintage. You know, it's Christmas. My dad's, like, not. My mom's bringing out a bottle of whites in. And your mom's bringing out, you know, like this classic, you know, Chardonnay of 1940. Is that true?

Like, we bring out old ones, like, sometimes. It's not all the time, but we do. We'll have some fun. That's awesome. Well, to close out here. You can. You're adopted. Yeah.

Come on over. This is fun. I like you. You can stay. Yeah. You're invited in, Bob. Yes. Well, my Uber is here, so I do have to go.

Yeah. But I want to say, we've had the greatest day here with you. And thank you so much for hosting us, for hosting our I-Heart family. Hey, before you leave, I do, just to close that. I think it's Ali here to really tell us, like, your wine, you know, people should go out, look at this brand. We'll put our names behind it. You should go do it if you're, you know, having a party. But to close this, can you sell just like the idea of coming to visit here? I think it's intimidating for most people. The idea to come to this place to step in. Not this place specifically. The thought of coming here. Yeah. I think most people are like, I don't know wine very well. I don't know how to do a tasting. I don't know like even how to pull up and like what I should wear. Can you just close us with like if somebody's, listening and they're like, this sounds like such a fun idea. I just don't know how to do it. Yeah. What would you tell them? It's like going to dinner, you guys. Okay. Put on a fun

outfit. Come out here. We'll guide you through the experience. Sit down. We have a menu. We'll talk you through it. You don't have to know how to taste wine to enjoy wine. You know, we have these winemaking principles where we want, you know, balance. We want the wines to have a sense of place. We want them to taste like the variety. They say they are. So if you have a glass of chardonnay, We want you to say it's Chardonnay. But then we have this other quality that we call yummy. That's what it is. You don't have to know what it flavors it is.

You just have to know if you like it and you want another sip. And if you don't, that's okay. We have plenty others. So you guys are kind of, it's still a very classy, but you're simplifying the wine experience for a lot of people too. It's like, I will say this. Like, this was, I agree with what Ben said. Like, coming here today, I was like, oh, my gosh, you know,

we're going to this vineyard and it's this golf course. But after being here, it's such a great experience. Everyone has been so nice. Your staff has been so kind to us and really inviting and wonderful. And from everyone, from the guys that took our golf bags to everyone who's serving us wine here, we've had such a great day. So thank you for having us. And thanks for being a part of this with us and for the almost famous family.

We've had a great day. It's going to be a great night, too. We have a big night ahead of us. It's going to be awesome here. So thanks for having us. Yeah, well, thank you so much for coming. We appreciate it. And my family will be cheers.

We'll be cheers into you. Cheers, All right. So we say, we just wine, cheers. Cheers, of course. Cheers. We say salood. May I say salood? Hey, we're here at Winty Vineyards.

Winty Winery. Wentty Vineyards. We're here at Winty Vineyards. We've had a tremendous day and more to come. It's time to go to dinner. So until then, I've been Ben. I've been Bob. And you been.

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