The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - A Well Planned Hurrah

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

Ashley had a reunion over a decade in the making when the ladies of Chris Soules’ season got together at Kaitlyn Bristowe’s in Nashville!Hear every detail of their weekend and what really happens when Ashley saw some former contestants for the first time in years. We’re breaking down the latest in Bachelor Nation headlines, with a hot take from Ben about Joe Amabile and Serena Pitt’s plans before starting a family. Plus, Trista Sutter is the victim of “fake news”!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcast with IHartRadio. It's almost famous podcast. We're here today with headlines. But I think the most interesting, exciting story of the week is a girls' trip that happened. Yeah. In Nashville, Tennessee. Wonderful place, beautiful place. And luckily, we're bringing in a really special guest today to talk about the weekend, who is there herself.

Ashley, what's up? Hi. Yes, we had the best weekend ever. We stayed at Caitlin's house. So it was Caitlin Carly, who's also a Nashville native, Becca. I don't know if I need, do I need last names here? No, you don't need the last name as podcast. They know.

know everybody my first day, Jade and me and Whitney. And it was so great. It was like the it was the perfect girls weekend. You know, girls out there know that a lot of the times you'll get your girls together and there'll be someone who's like bringing down the bunch or someone that you're talking about like when they leave the room or like you vent about when you leave the trip. This was 100% positive. I was only calling like my sister. to like tell funny stories and be like you wouldn't believe what the story that's so-and-so told and it was the greatest most like heart-filling girls trip together collectively we haven't seen each other like that in 11 years since we filmed the show I have obviously seen I see Caitlin

probably at least once a year in person and then I is Becca at least once a year in person and jade same um Carly I see like every year or two and then Whitney, I actually don't think I've seen since, like, maybe in person since filming. Yeah. We've done podcasts with her together, but it was so fulfilling, heart and soul. It was great. And Caitlin was the hostess with the absolute mostest. Like, she had a, she has a guest room for all of us.

We all had her own room. And then she had a private bartender come the night of, that we got there. we had what I loved about this was that it wasn't like a high glam thing like the the and it wasn't overly done it was just perfect she had a she had a bartender come for just the six of us as we dressed up like witches just for the six of us and then we had she had catering she had sushi chefs come over it was as if we were like staying at a resort but it was Caitlin's house and she had little goody baskets in each of the rooms. She was such a fantastic host. She booked a private Pilates class for us on Saturday morning. And then we went and got like Caesars and fries and had like the nicest girls brunch. That is the girliest.

By the way, hold up, time out. The girliest thing ever. Just the idea that that was a thought is one hilarious. Two, it's like my favorite meal. But mine's a Cobb salad and fries. Okay, it's the best meal. That made me laugh. Yeah.

Then it was Carly's 40th birthday. So we decorated cowboy hats, this place called Rustler, and then we decorated. That sounds like a girly project. I thought it was going to be a girly project. It's actually like pretty straight up cowboy. And then we went to a rooftop for drinks, and then we went to dinner, and then we went home. And let me tell you, a lot of times making Instagram content and seems like fun when you're watching and you're scrolling on Instagram, it's usually a lot of work and there's not a lot of fun to

it. We did these Instagram, these trends. It actually, the whole weekend started because of a trend. Caitlin, this isn't a girl chat group that we normally have going on, but she had texted a group of us saying we should do this trend. And she just meant we should all send in like our own clip of us just, you know, from Chris's season and then a clip of us from now. And she's like, and I'll compile them. And I was like, well, what if we do? do it in person. And then I was like, I'm available. I picked a weekend that I knew would be very free. And then Carly was like, that's my 40th birthday weekend. And she was like, and I just broke up with my fiance. And I could really use this. And that's how the plans got out of the

group chat, as they say. I mean, it's absolutely spectacular. I think this is so fun. I love, personally, one of my favorite things to see on social media. And to see with my friends is like people coming together around a table again, right? Celebrating, sharing, just reminiscing. This seemed like the perfect weekend for that. Now, were you able to enjoy yourselves without social media? Or was this overly social media loaded? No, I didn't finish my thought there. But the reason I say that, like, sometimes it looks fun, but it's usually not. It's usually actually work. We had the greatest time making these Instagrams and TikTok, some of which I haven't been out yet, it was like a creative outlet

for us. And it felt as if we were in 1998 being like 10 to 12 year olds making spice girls music videos. Like that's what it felt like. We were watching back footage 24 hours after filming something and we were actually like on the floor. I was holding my foot to like my crotch to make sure I didn't actually pee my pants because we were laughing so hard it hurts watching this stuff back so it was great it was absolutely like the most fun and then like I would never do a dance TikTok but then I got like the mirror ball trophy winner teaching me how to do a TikTok dance and she's just like having the time it was just the best it was so much fun and no it wasn't like we were doing social media the entire time it was an asset to the weekend and and it was only a few

hours. Okay, some rapid fire questions for you. Okay. Did you call Chris Souls? No. That would be weird because Whitney was there. You know, if it. Is that weird? I don't know. Yes. That was not like, you know, would, would Lauren call you in a group situation? I think if all the other girls were like, can we, let's do it. Let's be. That would be funny. I think she would be like, whatever. I don't care. Like, he's not going to, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe not. I don't think it'd be okay. Was there any competition that was brought up from 11 years ago back at this house? Like, did you stare one of these girls down and like, hey, you made it farther than me, but look at me now? I don't think so, no.

But I do say, and I'm echoing the sentiments of a lot of people in the comment section of our last Instagram reel that went up where it was like 11 years ago versus now and like pretty much everyone glowed up. I was going to say, I saw the pictures. 40 and thriving. Yeah, I think you all, I mean, I think you were beautiful back then. I think it was a great season, a great cast. I saw the, like, the side by sides. And I was like, all these women look like better, which is crazy. Yeah.

So crazy. Yeah. I don't know why. But it's like going against. Good skin treatments. I don't know. Yeah. The final question for you, was it everything you wanted to be?

more i mean i know we had talked about this for a couple weeks um leading up to it this was an exciting day i was excited for you guys i was pumped that you were doing this i know like you kind of like wish you were there we should have like a third guy for the third day for some of our favorite guys to show up yeah i would just come and hung out plus i've been to katelyland's house pool sick yeah yeah was it everything you wanted to be it was beyond everything we wanted it to be we're going to we're trying to make plans to do it now once a year like we're actually trying to, like, form up a week for next year now. This is, like, a guy's golf trip, right?

Like, guys have this thing, or at least my buddies, where it's easy because you have to book golf trips in advance, you have to commit to them. And we, you know, traditionally have done that year over year, because we have to hold this date out because the course needs to know we're coming. I've heard this oftentimes with women. This has actually been a conversation that came up at MomCon. It's come up in my own household. It just seems to be a thing.

For whatever reason, I think a very interesting thing right now is women are having a hard time as they get out of college and into their 30s and 40s, finding a hobby. They call, you know, like a hobby, they call it. So like something to do with friends,

something to do that helps them gather. Guys have golf, right? I think that's my thing. And so I'm a big proponent of like these, pick a weekend, have it every year. Like you don't block, it's blocked off. You have to get together. Yeah.

I know. It's definitely a little anxiety-inducing being like, okay, so this is the day. So, like, if I had to get any opportunities this week, I guess I know what? I got to say no to it. No, it's life. I mean, it is. Yeah, it is life. I was going to say that actually, during the trip, I was like, I feel bad for guys.

Like, I feel bad that Jared doesn't have a group like this where I do feel like girl talk is so much more intimate and soul-filling than guy talk. It's like, I know that you guys need that outlet, but I don't know that you ever have it the way that, and you get it through golf trips and such. But you don't. Like, you talk about sports and stuff like that. And like, we talked about everything that we're feeling. That's hilarious. Well, it's healthy.

Yeah. It's good. It's so good. There was a witch night. Iheart is very interesting in what this witch night was. It was like just like, we just said it wouldn't it be funny if we like all dressed. up as a witch, you know, being Halloween. And we just all picked one that resonated with us. So there was six of you total? Six of you total at this house. Well, Ashley, I think this is such a

fun thing. I was so happy to watch it. I think Chris Souls. It's interesting for me. I don't know Carly very well. Yeah, I guess you and Carly never had any run-ins. And also just shout out to Caitlin's assistant who was there helping with everything and being our videographer. She was absolutely fantastic. I'm sure she loved it. What better role is it to be the one on the other side of the camera just enjoying the people making the tools of themselves on the other side? Yeah, but all those women are so cool. Like they are. They're so great. I think that's something that we need to say because oftentimes we come on here and we talk about the villain. We talk about the thing that's dramatic. We talk about the people that have maybe caused a headline, which you're going to in just a

second, and those headlines typically aren't great. The women that were in that house with you, and there was many others on your season that I also think were great. But that was, like, this is a solid group of women that I always enjoy being around, and I know my wife really loves being around. There's some of the best in 11 years, 22 seasons of the show, like still some of the best that people relate to, love, and they deserve it, because you guys are are awesome. Oh, well, thank you, Ben. You are a shining star in that group.

You don't have to come back to me with anything. I just, I was happy to see it. Ashley, I'm sure you're tired. Thank you. I'm good. No, actually, not tired, to be honest. Slept better than I've slept in years. Yeah, I was thinking I, uh, yeah, that's actually probably funny.

You didn't have any interruptions. I was a child-free house. I had the luxury of waking, I woke up at eight, And then I was like, you know what? I'm just going to like sit in bed, scroll on the phone, daydream a little bit. And then you know what I did? I fell back to sleep till 10.30. And that is something that has not happened in a very long time.

This is so good. Oh, this is so. You're right. Because you just, yeah, your boys love to get you up. They just love life. They want to get you up, get you going. Yeah, I mean, they wake up late, which is nice. But like, I don't get like once I'm out of bed, yeah, out of bed.

Like once you hear them. on the monitor that your bedtime is over I was thinking about the season of Caitlin's season that I was on and the guys that would get together

from that Jared would obviously be like my number one call you know the tanners of the world and some others I just don't have close relationships

to a lot of those guys Jared Jared is the one I mean Nick was on that season I do talk to Nick but Jared is the one dude that I and I like a lot of them

Like, I love at the Golden Wedding, having dinner with Tanner. I mean, he's a, it's not, I'm not seeing these guys aren't great. We just don't talk. Cupcake? I don't talk to Cupcake. I love Cupcake so much. He's a great dude. He's actually a friend of mine that's very similar to those girls where it's like,

I could go a couple years without seeing him, and it's like not weird at all when we see him. And we could just like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Chris Strandberg, to be proper. Yeah, I'm just laughing at the fact that his name's Cupcake. like how poor guy he's like 38 years old and he's still known as cupcake i know like i can't believe that stuck so hard it did but yeah um there i mean there's great guys on the season i just don't necessarily have their friendship with all of them close enough to be like hey let's all get together again all i know is what i've been told and that's a half truth is a whole lot

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was The Bachelor's Melissa, Rycroft says she's struggling after arrest. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Not laughing at this, but yeah. No, but like, what a headline. Like, this is the best headline they could come up with is she's struggling after their arrest? Yes.

Like, that makes sense. Our podcast producer, Heather and I were on the podcast together doing these headlines last week. And I was like, oh, man, were we like, no, I guess we weren't like too hard. heard on Melissa. We were talking about the mugshot and how rough she looked in it. Very few look good in a mugshot. She did, she did drink and drive.

So, you know. It's a long night. So what happened was people were talking about on Instagram. She posted an inspirational message. Or she posted something on Instagram. And then people were commenting underneath it. some shared an inspirational quote some were like I made the mistake as well um somebody said no excuse but it happened don't forget that you are beautiful loved blessed and Melissa wrote underneath it

and she said thank you life really sucks right now and I am struggling but I'm trying to march forward but thank you for the sweet words in what seems to be a world of negativity and that's our update from her. Obviously, she's like not going to post be like, well, I don't know. Everybody does their own thing. But she's not going to post to be like, hey, life is great. This was my mugged shot when I drank and drive. Yeah, she's not going to be like this life is great. Everything's clicking how I've always dreamed that to be clicking. Like this is a tough season. There's a lot to learn, a lot to grow, a lot of like different feelings. The, you know, I think in life, mistakes happen and like people said it's a mistake that happens but shame and guilt do not do

a human well but I think you know changing course adjusting making it a part of your story teaching others about you know how these things can happen and how quickly it can happen I think that's that's where we hope she goes but yeah this is a tough season of life for her and the mugshot was not great but goodness gracious it's not like it was a glamour shoot Like, she's standing against a brick wall and a jail. It's not going to look awesome. Yeah. Ashley, a few weeks ago, we talked about this new thing happening on social media.

And I'm actually very concerned about it. I think the path forward will only get worse with AI, with the ability to create and make things look so lifelike. And it's scary for anybody. Public eye or not, it's scary. And we talked about this. Well, Trista Sutter was also a victim of this fake news that's going around. Remember, we talked about a few weeks ago. That's right, yeah.

Well, she also was a victim of the fake news. This fake news claims she was going to be a grandmother. She has two kids with Ryan, both young, both still in high school. I mean, one's, I guess, starting college now? Yeah. Yeah. I don't love, I mean, I have said, I'm very concerned about where this goes going forward for anybody. But I don't love that the fake news, that's been a coin term over the last, you know, 10 years.

I don't love that there's, like, actual fake news that's fake news. Like, created fake news just to spark a debate that could really hurt people. So I was a little confused by this. I saw when Trista posted her video. There was speculation that her 18-year-old. old son, Max, was going to be a dad. And I don't really know, I don't really understand how they manipulated the pictures or people put headlines or the pictures to say that the pictures of them, like him and his ex-girlfriend, have been used for clickbait, she said. Have you heard

the news? Because I did last night. My first reaction was laughter. My second reaction was anger. biggest reason for that it is all lie the one thing if it's one thing if it's about me I can just ignore it but it comes to the territory it's another thing it's about my children she said I'm very much looking forward to becoming a grandma

of course I would support my children but hoping that's a little bit further down the road but the bottom line is basically one of these like fake news outlets like the clickpady sites not like an us weekly not like a people magazine but like there's other weird things out there

took photos of her son Max and his ex-girlfriend and alluded to the fact that they were having a child. And that's what it is. That's crazy. It's just fake. It's made up stuff. It's going to happen more and more. I don't like it.

Trista is one of many who have been kind of focused on from this. I think we're going to see a lot of people pop up. Here's what I would say to anybody that happens to in the public guy or not. Because I think this is going to happen to everyone at some point is clear things up with the people that are close to you, but then don't bring attention to it because nobody's actually reading this stuff. I mean, if maybe a bigger, like a people or something would pick it up, they would have to call you first. And if they did share this information, you're going to get really rich on them sharing this information because it's fake. And so I just, I think it's a worth

ignoring because the more clicks, the more money, and the money is what's driving the ability for this to continue to happen. Because it's just, it's, it's like a, it's a machine that won't stop. It's a snowball effect. And the more and more people click, the bigger these get, the more often they come out. And it's going to be the craziest things. And we'll probably be spending the next many years on the show during headlines saying, that was fake, that isn't real. this was a headline if you saw it it's not a real thing and that's just I don't know it's bogus

I'd much rather talk about cooler stories like Joe and Serena Joe teases Serena that they should probably think about having a kid soon but here's the other crazy part about Joe and Serena I've been following Joe

I love Joe he's love Joe great guy Serena's awesome both incredible I know Joe better he was at the Rider Cup and then he goes from the Rider Cup to like Seoul South Korea and then they go from Seoul South Korea

I see that they're back and then yesterday they posted they're at the airport on their way to Tokyo like what? Yeah. Why would you do that? I have no idea.

Wait, what? Why would you come back? Here's my judgment towards them. If you want to have a kid stop traveling across the world back and forth all the time. I think what they're doing right now is doing their last hurrah

before they have the kid. I mean, this is like, This was like shock. I mean, we've seen people travel. This was a well-planned hurrah, though. This is definitely what they're intentionally doing. I don't think it's a well-planned hurrah. They were in South Korea and they flew back to go to Tokyo.

That's ridiculous. You know what they're doing? They're flying first class because nobody flying coach would ever do that. Well, yes. I would imagine that the two of them are flying first class. They do have another Bachelor podcast that they host. I'm sure they're just cranking in the dough. They're flying first class.

They're drinking champagne. Their feet are kicked up. It's easy. It's breezy. Still, wild. Oh, my gosh. Wild decision making. So this is funny.

So Joe said as he was getting this 18-step scalp massage treatment in Sewell, he said that I have realized that I have way too much time on my hands and I should probably think about having a kid soon. I would say, is this them, him teasing that they are having a kid soon? But I also don't think that Serrino is going to be going in her first trimester to South Korea or, Tokyo, all in one month. And then the caption was great. I did love the caption. I did not respond, but I was like, this is the kind of moment in which you do realize

that you should have a kid. I'm like, I am that parent now. That's just like, don't you think that you should have a kid? I have turned into my mom. It's a wonderful life. Come over here and join it. And, yeah, when you do find yourself doing like lots of spa treatments and just like having the

just relaxing all the time you should shake it up a bit kidding I'm a little jealous this is coming from a little bit of a place of jealousy for sure and then my husband wrote underneath the comment in the comments he said just join the club already I promise it's not that stressful in which

he's definitely joking but I actually say in hindsight having one is really not that stressful it doesn't shake up your life as In our perspective, having one was a lot different as far as just like life flexibility and being able to do things like 18 steps scout treatments, which I have done a scalp treatment over the past few months. It was a nice, luxurious treat that I gave myself as a mom. I'm just rambling here, but I also think that, you know, when you have the one, you can still do things like that. And then Natalie, Nick's wife, said, I've literally been telling you this.

And Ben, comments. Jessica went to you. I like how you go. I'm just rambling. And then you keep going. That's a classic, me. Oh, Ash. I love doing this with you.

Do you really? I think you probably just like get off and be like, wow, that woman doesn't shut up sometimes. I've never said that. She's a bad host. Never thought it. Never it would feel it. I just love it. I just, I find it humorous sometimes.

And you're like, I'm just rambling. And then you're like, no, let me keep going. The, uh, just went to a baby shower last night. And it was her first night away from Winona since Winona's, well, since she's been pregnant with Winona. Whoa, what first night away? That's anxiety-inducing. Yeah, she was struggling with it.

And we talked about it. I was like, here's the deal. One night away, like, you, we know, you rip the band it off. But here's the other side that we kind of came to the conclusion of. one of the roles I think for you now at a baby shower because you remember the feelings for your first is to tell people how great it is it's not like easy but it's great it's so much better and to like relieve the stress of oh my gosh this is such a daunting idea yes it is and it should be you're bringing life into the world and you're now responsible for keeping this life alive

however it's so much more amazing than you can ever imagine here's the same decide. Here's my second point to this. It's funny, Ashley. I don't know if you feel this way. But, you know, Jessica travels with Winona more than I do. You know, she kind of brings her anywhere she can. Yeah, I've done it alone too. Jared hasn't done it alone. Not that he, he's fully capable and he would do a great job. But he's ever been on a plane alone with him. But when you're alone at your house now, it's so boring. And it's great for like a day, two days. Day three, you're like, I don't know what to do. Like, what did I do with myself when there wasn't a wife and a kid?

We asked that all the time. I guess I watched a lot of TV. I have no idea. It's so boring. It's so, it's like so much different. And so now I'm like, I don't even remember how I functioned as an adult without these types of gifts

and responsibilities. I would never go back. That's, Ben, exactly. I have so many friends that are in their, okay, when I say so many, I have three in my head that I can,

think of that are really going back for that really are just like I'm not sure I don't know I don't know like I love my life right now do I want to mess it up I'm like first of all you're not messing you would not mess it up and yes you should I'm always like if you're in debate of it I feel like you should 100 100% so great um so wonderful I had winnie last night belly laughing just her and I just wasn't there and it was just Winnie Waylon night and she was belly laughing and I was like I put her to bed and I laid back in our bed and I was like oh my gosh like what a life like what a dream yeah this is so cool hey gabby l nicky gets engaged a long time boyfriend Zach now actually if I remember right when gabby came on our show she kind of hinted or

talked about this relationship fairly openly but they hadn't necessarily been public yet and there wasn't a lot of information out there on them but she thought at the time it was the real deal. She was very excited about this relationship. Well, now we see it come full circle with the engagement. She definitely made it seem like this would be in their future. We're very happy for them. She posted the engagement photos. They're so cute. So the luckiest girl in the world. They're very cute. Aw. So good. Congratulations to the two of them. Beautiful. Like right there on the ocean with the waves. It's so gorgeous. she said that it was perfect it was totally unexpected and so full of love and she said that her sister

Chloe helped him his name is Zach ironically which is absolutely hilarious because she was second place on Zach season had organized family photos for the group and led her to think that like the entire thing was nothing unusual because I did it and like you know they were saying oh, we're doing family photos by the ocean, and then he did it in a turn to an engagement shoot. So great. Congratulations to the two of them. All I know is what I've been told,

and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved. until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the citizen investigator on national TV.

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, And I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up.

Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. What's up, everybody? This is Snacks from the Trabner's podcast, and we're bringing you the horror every week all October long. Kicking off this month, I'll be bringing you all my greatest fear-inducing horror games from Resident Evil to Silent Hill,

me and Tony Bringing Back Fire Team on Left for Dead 2, and we're just going to be going over some of the greats. Also, in October, we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movie and figuring out why black people always got to die first. The Umbril Reliquary invites any and all foolish. brave enough to peruse its many curiosities. But take heed, all sales are final. Weekly horror side quests written and narrated by yours truly.

With a full episode read and a commentary special. And we will cap it off with horror movie battle royale. Jason versus Freddie. Michael Myers versus the 80th thing with the little tongue muster. October, we're doing it Halloween style. Listen to the trap nurse podcast from the Black Effect podcast network on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you Get your broadcast.

People called them murderers. Ten years later, they were gods. Today, no one knows their names. A group of maverick surgeons who took on the medical establishment who risked everything to invent open heart surgery. Welcome to the Wild West of American Medicine. I'm Chris Pine, and this is Cardiac Cowboys. If you like medical dramas, if you like heart-pounding thrillers,

you will love cardiac cowboys. Listen on the iHeart Radio app or wherever you live. Listen to podcasts. Sponsored by Jasper AI. AI built for marketers. In early 1988, federal agents race to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it. But what they find is not what they expected.

Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. They go, is this your daughter? I said yes. They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years. Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them, the women must decide who they're willing to protect and who they dare to betray. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Sting on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts.

Think back to the early 2000s. You're flipping through TV channels, and then you hear this. I was rooting for you. We were all rooting for you. How dare you! Learn something from this! But looking back 20 years later,

that iconic show so many of us loved, is horrified. Robin, first of all, is too old to be starting modeling. She's huge. I talked to cast, crew, and producers who were there for some of the show's most shocking moments. If you were so

rooting for her, what did you help her? With never before heard interviews, the curse of America's Next Top Model examines why this show was so popular and where it all went wrong. We basically sold our souls and they got rich.

Listen to the curse of America's Next Top Model on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Big news that we've been following. The Bachelorette alum, Katie Thurston, is feeling, this word is great, optimistic amid her stage for cancer battle.

Ashley, I know you have an update via social media about where Katie's at and all this. I think listeners will want to know. we've been following along, rooting for her. I wish I did, but she actually put on her booby broadcast yesterday that she'll be getting the results today, Monday afternoon. She said, I've shared experiences and advice and words of encouragement. The shared experiences of advice and words of encouragement have meant so much to me.

I'm manifesting that there'll be no evidence of active disease in celebrating with you all. soon. So we are waiting with bated breath to get those results today. It's the six-month scan. She says she feels optimistic about it. And again, in this article, she's just talking about how grateful she's been to have her husband along her side for this entire thing. She can't face cancer alone. You really have to rely on your friends and family and to have somebody who's your partner and who's right there every step of the way. And all this has meant so much to me. It's something that will continue to follow. We're rooting for Katie here.

Jojo Fletcher and Jordan Rogers share bucket list moment with Becca Tilly ahead of baby's arrival. So, yes, I talked a little bit about Jojo's pregnancy with Becca this week. And she was like, Jojo has been so unaffected by this pregnancy. She's like one of the rare people that are fully enjoying it. She's had like no sickness, no real symptoms bringing her. down good for you jojo jealous and honestly very happy for you but she said that right now they're trying to check off bucket list moments and so the three of them um was was jordan with them i didn't realize that jordan was the them okay okay so they went to the desert and they went to rise

festival and that's where you kind of like lift up your floating lantern into the sky that's like it's a whole bunch of music and other things now but this was why uh jojo and beka wanted to go and kind of like put your wish into the world, as my friends and I say. And she said that it was a bucketless moment to be there. And she had her new liquor company there, her new seltzers. And she said that, you know, being with Becca and experiencing this, it's the rainbow baby. Surrounded by so much light is something that she'll never forget. You know, this is a forever memory for her. And she said that she's very emotional and happy that they all got to experience it together. It's really great. And her seltzers are really good, by the way.

Yeah. It's the name. They're Aparel Spritz seltzers. I don't know the name, but they're great. We've enjoyed them here, after Italy especially. They keep our desire going back. All right. Ashley, final headline of today is a headline of somebody you're just with. Beckettili reveals plans to propose to fiancé Haley Kiyoko. go. Well, you know, we didn't really get any tea on when Becca's going to do this. I know. I didn't

really pull and pry about when she's going to do it. I just said, you are going to do it, right? And she said, yes. And then Kaylee knows this. It's not like it's a surprise or anything. And in this video that was up on Instagram this week, she's just like, I honestly love being engaged with you. kind of cute. And I love waking up and seeing the ring on your finger and your smile. It's so fun. This is Haley to Becca. And then Becca said that she's planning on proposing to Haley as well. And she said it's so fun. I'm really excited about the proposal. She said that she is going to have to be very sneaky to pull off a surprise because she feels like she just got it so good from Haley. It was such a surprise to her. She needs to figure that out. But they keep talking about glowing and glowing because it was maybe a sponsored video that they posted about this. But also at the same time, they really, truly are glowing.

They are. I was like, you guys are constantly like in, why do I feel like you are just seven years in and basically in the honeymoon stage still? Like they are so lovey-dovey with each other. And she said, that is true. She goes, it doesn't mean that like we don't fight. but like we do we are very romantic with each other it's uh it's really special yeah and obviously we love becca so much she is one of as i said the coolest and greatest people to come from the franchise definitely always has been well that's all the headlines we have for you today

the only other headline i wanted to bring up was that jared haybin is a part of the dc universe making his appearance in the show Peacemaker. He does a great job, really good acting, incredible execution on his part. Thank you on his behalf. Yeah. Yes, Jared had a friend of ours. Yeah, Dawson can't see it. It's very, it's a kind of a graphic scene.

Yeah, he's like snorting Coke. Like, I don't think it's, yeah. Jared has never done cocaine in his life, but when James Gunn says you should snort some fake Coke, He does it. Yeah, and he does it well. He looks like he's been there before. Yeah, Jared gets to say that he has been part of the DCU and that James Gunn directed him.

So that is truly one of the top things on his bucket list. And thank you to a great friend who was able to set that experience up for him. Oh, so fun. Well, hey, that is all the headlines we have for today. It's great to be with you again. We got a big week ahead of us with the Golden Bachelor. obviously more news coming out on The Bachelorette. We'll have some great interviews.

So stay tuned to the Almost Famous Thread for everything good happening in and around Bachelor Nation. So until next time, I've been Ben. I've been Ashley. See you guys. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, Almost Famous Podcasts on IHartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.

The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years, until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, and to binge the entire season. Add free.

Subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Samihante, it's Anna Ortiz. And I'm Mark and Delicado. You might know us as Hilda and Justin from Ugly Betty. Welcome to our new podcast, Viva Betty. Yay! We're re-watching the series from start to finish and getting into all the fashions, the drama, and the behind-the-scenes moments that you've never heard before.

But you were still bartending? I didn't know that. The bar back is like, is that you? And it's a commercial for Betty. And I was like, I quit. I quit. Listen to Viva Betty on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia.

Had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it. Five, six white people Pushed me in the car I'm going to look at that out Basically, your stay-at-home moms We're picking up these large amounts of heroin All you got to do is receive the package Don't have to open it, just accept it

She was very upset, crying Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand And I saw the flash of light Listen to the Chinatown Stang On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts Or anywhere you get your podcasts What's up, everybody? It's snacks from the trap nerds

All October alone We're bringing you the Horror. Bookety, boogiety, boogity. We're kicking off this month with some of my best horror games to keep you terrified. Then we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movies and figuring out why black people always die further. And it's the return of Tony's horror show, sideways written and narrated by yours truly.

We'll also be doing a full episode reading with commentary. And we'll cap it off with a horror movie Battle Royale. Open your free IHard Radio app and search trap nurse podcast and listen now. Welcome to Decoding Women's Health. I'm Dr. Elizabeth Point. Chair of Women's Health and Gynecology at the Atria Health Institute in New York City. I'll be talking to top researchers and clinicians and bringing vital information about midlife women's health directly to you. A hundred percent of women go through menopause.

Even if it's natural, why should we suffer through it? Listen to Decoding Women's Health with Dr. Elizabeth Pointer on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Thank you.