The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - After, After the Final Rose

Episode Date: March 11, 2020

Ashley is joined by an expert panel to recap what truly was the most dramatic and shocking finale ever?!Amanda, Angela, Krystal, Tayshia and Savannah armchair quarterback the heck out of this finale.��Oh, BARB! Plus... Is Angela dating? How are Krystal and Chris doing? And Tayshia talks about being passed over for Bachelorette! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and Ashley I, almost famous podcast with IHeart Radio. Welcome to The Girls Tell All. I thought you were going to say the girl's room I know I was going to say We're here And it's after the final It's after the final rose After after the final rose That's what it is

It's after after the final rose And I am here with a group of Bachelor ladies I have to my left All in pajamas And sweat you know Sweatpants and slippers and, you know, wine and hand, dessert. I got Amanda Stanton right there.

Hey, say hey Amanda. Hi, guys. Then I got Angela. Hey, guys. She flew in just for this, just for this girls' party. I did, and I'm so glad I came. I'm having so much fun. Oh, good, thanks.

Then I got Crystal. Hi, Bill. Hi. Hi. Tasha. Hello. And Savannah's back for part two. of The Bachelor finale Recaps on Almost Famous.

So I'm going to go in order, except for this one thing I must start off the bat with. Madison, run far away. Run, run, run. I am just slightly confused after watching this entire season, especially tonight. Are her and Peter dating? Or is she, like, afraid of his mom? because I would be terrified. Terrified.

I don't know. I don't really feel like he was fighting for her the way I would want someone to fight for me after making all those mistakes. He was like, well, it's going to be an uphill line. And I kind of think she was expecting it because she spoke first and I was expecting him to give more and then he didn't. He didn't even use the word date. Although he did defend her to his parents.

Yeah. I'm so if he didn't do that, then I'd be very concerned. But the fact is he's like, we're in love. He did say, I'm in love with her. It's so weird because it was almost like they were like, I'm in love, I'm in love. But then when the word date came up, they got scared. Yeah. It's bizarre.

But I don't think she did. I think he did. He did. Which would bother me. Maddie came out and she was like, I'm in love with him. We're in love. She was so excited and bubbly and like giddy. And it seemed like she was expecting a proposal or like expecting the relationship to be

The un-morphy, definitely. Yeah, I don't think the relationship is defined. And when she tossed it to Peter and what, like, his remarks were like, are there challenges? Yes. Is it going to be an uphill battle? Probably most the way. And you see her just go, are you, like she threw up her hands like, are you serious?

Like, what? I thought we were like going to establish ourselves as a relationship. And then we backtrack or flash forward 30 minutes later after his mom jumps in. And then he's defending her and defending how much he loves her. But he didn't tell Madison that he loved her. Not to her. He said it to his mom. Yeah.

And then another thing I noticed, when he was breaking up with Hannah, Hannah asked if it had to do with his feelings for Maddie. He didn't say anything about Maddie during the breakup. And he even said a little bit, but not fully, mostly like, you know, he didn't really say that they were breaking up because of Maddie. And then when Chris Harrison went to talk to Maddie, he said it was because of Maddie. But Peter never really said. We'll get there.

I want to clarify furthermore why I said Maddie run. I think that Maddie needs to run from the entire Weber family. Because one, Peter decided to propose to another woman who he obviously wasn't as in love with, clearly. Like, we know this. He made that decision to just end up with somebody when he had stronger feelings for somebody else. And then this mom is horrible. I mean like I'm sorry I don't even really feel bad saying that it's terrifying the first the first half of this episode I was like I wonder how much I'm gonna rip on her during the podcast because like I feel weird speaking about an older woman like that a woman older than me but like the second half of the episode kind of proved to me that I don't really have to feel bad because she doesn't feel bad ripping on someone else I think that's why maybe feel like that yeah that's how I feel because I've always like been like pro his parents because I thought they were so nice and and like accommodate you know what I mean and then all of a sudden it's like jekyll and hide we see

this other side and I get it she's defending her child but at the same time you don't have to be like kind of flat out rude like when she was talking to Maddie I was like did she just say that I know it was it was startling it was it was feisty but like but you have to think this she's not just defending 30 years younger than her yeah she's not just defending Peter she's defending herself to America because yesterday was the like part one of the finale where she was attacked so you have to understand she's probably operating out of her root chakra her fight or flight or freeze response and so she's completely defending herself here and she she's just on the defense the defense mode and I think being put in that position

I doubt she even wanted to be sitting in that audience and I think she felt coerced into it also I feel like no matter what Maddie was going to say she was going to have a problem with it because the second Maddie opened her mouth her eyes were rolling well what's interesting is they said that they go the dad what's the dad's name Kevin Peter. Peter. The dad's name's Kevin? Kevin. I don't know. Kevin was going to be John. I'm not sure. Is his brother named Kevin? Kevin was coming to him out. Okay.

Peter's dad. His name's Peter? Yep. Papa Peter? Okay. Papa Pete. He was saying he was like, shoot, I just saw something train of thought. What was he saying? He goes, there's so much that you guys didn't see. And if you would have seen what we saw, you would have a different opinion. So I'm just really curious, as we all know, because you've all been on this show. You can only, there's like 600 hours filmed and they show 20. There's so much that you don't see and that the viewers don't see.

And there's so much that happens through the editing process that can completely, you know, manipulate a situation to create an outcome and an emotion that wasn't really there or really just accentuates it. So I want to know, Papa Pete. What do you know? Yeah, I was like, I think we're missing something. Absolutely. I think we all said that the whole episode. Yeah.

But then the second the episode starts. We were all like, are we missing something? Thanks for bringing us back to the beginning. Let's start with that. Heater FaceTime's Hannah-Anne's dad to ask for permission for her hand in marriage. I walked into this apartment at 803, and I see him on the phone with the dad. And you guys go, yeah, he's asking for permission to marry Hannah-Anne. And I go, can we rewind?

Like, what they just rec- Wait, how are we already to this part? Right. That doesn't make any sense because we needed to deal with him telling Hannah Ann that Madison left we where was Neil Lane? There was like a whole bunch of norms that were missing and just like even his decision making

like why didn't we see like so many contemplation scenes of Peter looking in the distance being like trying to ponder whether or not he was going to propose to Hannah Ann or whether he was going to go fight for Maddie who knows crazy that we start out like that right shows that something's missing

it's time for the proposal and then Chris shows up and he we see what has been teased so much this season Chris approaches the podium the proposal podium

the altar and says so I just got to tell you this might darken the day a bit Hannah Ann may not show up what do you guys think was the point of saying this like I'm so confused I think it was just to build hype, to be quite honest with you, because she's in the car. No, it's because they go, they go this, they go, it's the last day.

We're going to fuck with Peter even more than we fucked with him. Seriously, honestly, it's like, what do you mean she may or may not come? Of course she may or may not come. Why would you pull him in the middle of this like monumental moment for him that I'm sure took a lot of like guts and courage for him to even stand there? And I'm sure there was so much spinning in his head to even just like mess. with him when he's so vulnerable, I just felt it's so symbolic of exactly how the season has gone.

I feel like they should have waited until Hannah Ann made her decision, be like, yes, I'm going to go. No, I'm not going to go to even tell Peter, like that that was even a thing. It was almost like a Colton season, we had the fence jump. Hannah's season, we had that whole confrontation tease the entire time. And it was almost like, oh, we need that one moment to just tease the entire time. That'll symbolize the ending. haven't we had a thousand and one moments of like uncertainty in like issues already like why did we need to like string along even more like the guy looked like he was about to pass out i know i feel bad for peter like i don't want to dampen the day she literally could not go through anything more i really don't think so like he had gone through so much turmoil already yeah it was like pale yeah it's like madison had left him and then he's thinking hannah ann has left him and at that moment i'm sure like his whole world came crashing down like i absolutely

failed. Yeah. I think he wanted so badly to just end up with somebody that it didn't really matter who it was. He just wanted this to be successful for him and not be single at the end of it. Successful as in like his heart is fulfilled or successful as in like he's a bachelor who chose a woman. I think he just wanted to be a bachelor who chose a woman. I mean, clearly he loves Maddie, but it's just at the end of it, it seemed like that if he was going to just run to Han. so so then Chris comes and says she's coming and then she says hello Chris Harrison which was super awkward and then I think that's the only person that gets like asked by his whole name like hi Chris Harris it's not just hey Chris it's pretty Chris Harrison like it was a funny moment

there was no other Chris on set so so then Hannah Ann is of course emotional walking towards the proposal Peter starts his speech we hear the heartbeat's again and Peter starts to propose and in the middle of the proposal in something that sounds very edited like you know we got to go back and watch it but the sound bite of him saying Maddie left two days ago sounded like it was placed in the wrong spot his face was showing really it was louder maybe it was like put in the wrong spot no because in the final rose when they talked she even said you didn't bring up that Maddie left until you were proposing to me in the middle of the proposal and I was like so you know in another world I didn't even know how to

And can we bring up, how could a guy bring up another girl during a proposal? Literally. There's no way I would ever say yes to propose. Like literally two sentences of proposing. Yeah, I would be like, excuse me what so I'm your second choice? There's no way I would have said, yeah. And why are you even thinking about another woman when you're about to ask for my hand in marriage? I think we all said it was just like, at that moment I would have asked the context of that, of her leaving.

Yeah. So for you guys to know, here sitting as a group of women. I go, would you guys stop him right there after that comment and been like, okay, well, was that her decision or your decision when she left? And we all said we would. For sure. But here's the thing. I think she was just in shock because I don't think she thought that he was going to propose.

So I think she was like, she was just too in shock to like stop and ask any questions. Well, her face said it all. Like whenever he said, he finally said that he loved her. She looked in shock. And I felt sad for her that she. She was like, because he just gave her nothing the whole time and the fact that like she had no clue and just felt that shocked but still said yes. I feel like that says a lot. I know.

This morning, Savannah and I were talking about how we were speculating that she was going to leave on her own because she felt so second place. I mean, hence why they teased her not showing up because I think like those feelings were obviously lingering towards the proposal. But the fact, yeah, I don't know. It's just I would have, I think I would have stopped right then and there whenever. I mean, just the fact, again, that he said Madison's name during the proposal. Like, again, that's like that moment. She was talking about this. He took that moment from her, that, you know, the engagement moment.

I feel so bad. I feel so sad for her. But you know what? Good for Hannah Ann because she handled that like a boss. She said what she needed to say. And it came across in a good way. And she's strong. And I think I speak for all of us as we sit here.

Like, it's so empowering to tell a man. like and call him out and for him to be like yeah I did that and admit it because a lot of the times they don't so good for Hannah Ann do we think that Peter didn't go to Hannah Ann because that would have been proof to her that she was second place and then she would have left so he was like I'm not going to tell her because she's going to probably leave when she hears this no I honestly I don't think she was conflicted like because his mom wanted him to be with her so badly yeah but you know that he was going to have to tell her at some point that Maddie left on her own and then she was going to start thinking.

True, true, true. Well, here's a question I just thought of. If Maddie wouldn't have eliminated herself, we all think he for sure would have chose Maddie. It's like not a thousand percent. Yeah. You think so? I do.

I don't know. Crystal, are you being sarcastic? No, I'm being for real. It's like, was he just tempted because she played hard to get? Because the guys love the chase. And she definitely proposed that element of it. And now that she's there for him? Yeah, now it doesn't really do it.

I want to say it. I don't think he would have chosen Maddie. If Maddie wouldn't have left, I think he still would. I think he would have chosen Hannah Ann. Being somebody that was in the house with all of it, like I, every girl that was on our season would tell you that their connection was just like when she would walk in the room, it was like none of us existed. Who?

Maddie. So like, we knew. from that first one-on-one that they had, we just knew. I mean, at least I did. I know Sydney did. We talked about that earlier today. Yeah, I was going to say earlier on part one of this podcast, they said that Hannah-Anne was an obvious second to Maddie in the house.

Really? Yeah, I mean, I think that their relationship was just more, I mean, obviously more fun, you know, because Hannah-Anne-Anne was just really light-hearted and everything. And I think Maddie was just really taking this seriously. And like she said, you know, she just felt like this was her journey too. This wasn't just Peter. So. I think she's right in saying that too. Like both people have to choose each other.

I'm so glad that she called Barb out. So glad. I'm so glad. It was truly like one, two sentences that summed up everything. It was the ultimate comeback at her. Because Barb made this entire episode last night and tonight about her. about Peter and like Peter's happiness and somebody choosing Peter and not a two-way street

like he she wanted her son to find somebody who worshipped him that would take care of him yeah yeah Amanda anything no I was gonna say you also have to think too like coming from Maddie is when you're in a situation where you know that he might not pick you at the end you're automatically like protecting yourself so you're kind of guarding yourself

which is probably why she wasn't saying openly that she was super in love with him oh yeah because she's protecting herself yeah yeah so i think that makes sense too and also they had known each other for what like six weeks at the time so yeah yeah after the proposal we see peter go home and he walks in the door he's about to announce to his family who he got engaged to the family finds out it was hannah ann and then um barb says things like he's with his person he followed his heart and like she goes crazy she's like blubbering again which you know no no emotional shaming here but the woman is a little overboard this is coming from me okay um and then she goes

and they lived happily ever after which is the ultimate ironic statement yeah i'm not sure anybody's happy right now no including the audience so before i tweeted i tweeted i tweeted I tweeted, um, Jane Fonda has nothing on Barb, hashtag Monster in Law. And somebody responded to my tweet with a DM that Barb sent them last night. No, I'll tell you what the tweet said after the break. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school.

week on the okay story time podcast so we'll find out soon this person writes my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot he doesn't think it's a problem but i don't trust her now he's insisting we get to know each other but i just want her gone now hold up isn't that against school policy that sounds totally inappropriate well according to this person this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age and it's even more likely that they're cheating he insists there's nothing between them i mean do you believe him well he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if

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So this is what Peter's mom said. Unfortunately, what wasn't shown was how it all started. Madison had us wait for three hours because she didn't want to come in to meet us, which is interesting that she uses the word meet us because she already met us. because she already met them. Oh, yeah, they already met. My son begged her to do so. Once in, she never offered an apology to which I wonder, oh, she had to apologize for keeping them waiting.

So she goes, keep in mind, we traveled across the world to meet both girls. Does this woman not remember having met Madison and, like, had her be there for their vow renewal and the reception? It was like an extended period of time, not just a little home pop in. Anyway, then she goes, when I asked her if she loved my son, she said no, and that she would not accept a proposal from him in four days. Then I wondered to myself, what is she doing there then? My son, Jack, pointed out that Peter in that small amount of time that she was in there was all about herself and not about Peter. Trust me when I say, all that glitters is not gold. Thank you.

Okay. So that basically reiterates what she said on tonight's episode when Chris asked why do you have so much against this girl. And it is so petty. Do you not think that this explanation is so petty? It seems really immature. Yeah. Well, also, do you really think Maddie refused to come in? Sometimes it takes a really long time for us to get that. Oh my God. It's that hurry up and wait. You guys, if they tell you be ready for a day in an hour, you know it's going to be three years. hours. So I don't even know that I believe that she didn't want to come in. And even if she didn't want to come in, we all know it was because Maddie wasn't even sure, like, how she was going to deal with the situation at hand, which was him sleeping with the other women. When I also feel like probably Maddie didn't want to use her very little time that she had with a family to be like, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry that they made us wait three hours to come in here. Like she probably wanted to use her time. Yeah. Family and faith is really important to Maddie.

so if she was going to go into again meet Peter's family knowing that Peter had betrayed her trust why would she want to build that connection with his family I certainly wouldn't if I didn't see if like a man I was not in alignment with a man and his core values and I felt disrespected I would not want to go in and try to be fake with his family right I agree yeah I agree with him why would she

they had like a roadblock right so she was probably like I don't think it's a appropriate of me to be hanging out with your family right now we got to absolutely not yeah I think Maddie is a real one and I like applaud her for not going in there and being like over the top and I'm not saying Hannah Ann was that's a totally different situation but I applaud Maddie for like not going in there and being like oh my gosh everything's perfect so so this is the conversation wait this is the moment that we're talking about when she actually did meet his family and Barb did ask her

and she brought up her faith and values right this is a conversation to that well which we talked about this morning and I was she knew what was going to happen I I didn't like the way that she made it seem like she gave her son an ultimatum. And that, well, we clarified this this morning. But basically, Maddie was like, I didn't. I just told him how I would feel if he chose that path. She gave him a morning. Barb doesn't see this, apparently.

Yeah, I think the problem is like, I don't even know if I want to get into it. Come on, get into it. Did y'all talk about this yesterday's episode already this morning? I'm sure. But I'm just saying it's just like, why would you sign? you know this guy is sexually active, okay? He had sex four times in a windmill. Why would you go on his season if you're giving him an ultimate

such as that? It's just like, you know he's going to get engaged at the end of this. And I'm sorry, but that's kind of what fantasy suits are for. I'm not saying you have sex with everybody. I'm not saying that at all. But I'm just saying, like, you need to find your person. Not saying you need sex to find your person, but I'm just saying it is a possibility, okay?

So the fact is, like, why sign up for this thing? If the guy was a virgin, that's one thing. but he's not, okay? Infamously, very openly. He is not. So why go on his season? If that's a huge thing for you, I would have said that since day one.

I guess she probably not. I think he would just like send him at her, right? She didn't want him to sleep with anyone else? That's kind of an ultimatum, dude. Like, it's like, you can go to fantasy suites, but if you sleep with anyone like, if he value your relationship enough, then he wouldn't want to risk it.

I mean, like, if he knew that she was the one, then he'd be like, okay, yeah, then I don't. I don't have any interest in sleeping with the other girls. Exactly. But the thing is, like, he didn't. So, like, so I would just walk away then. Well, I'm going back to, like, what's Savannah.

I should have walked away at that point, or she should have, you know, let him have a chance. Like, I don't know. I wouldn't have been able to do what she did and go through that. And then how do you go back at the end of this episode and be like, let's work through it? Nothing's going to change. Yeah. He already slept with those people. Like, what are you doing?

I'm sorry, but, like, it doesn't make any sense to me. Like, it doesn't make sense to me. Like, it doesn't make sense. Well, I appreciate you having this view. So I can understand Barb's frustration is what I'm trying to get at, essentially. So then she says that when I asked her if she loved my son, she said no and would not accept a proposal within four days. I'm like, okay, that's because that they were in the middle of the roadblock again. She didn't say, I don't think she said, no, I don't love your son.

She probably said, have you told my son that you love him? And she was like, no, not yet, because of this thing. And then she was like, and because of this thing, I probably am not ready to accept a proposal. But then we go and see that Maddie leaves after this. So then you'd think that Barb would be like, okay, props. She knew. She left. She wasn't ready.

Right? Then why would she still hate her? Why is she still hate her right now? I think Barb would have like a little more respect for Maddie. Yeah. You'd think that now, after seeing that she was like, Oh, you know why? Because she knows that Hannah Ann and Pete broke up

and she knows that Maddie was the reason. That Maddie was the reason and that Maddie even showed up to surprise Peter when he thought he was meeting Chris. So mom was filled in. And here she is thinking like, oh snap, is my son about to get engaged to Maddie tonight? Amanda.

I don't even know. I love all these conspiracies. Okay, well, should we talk about Hannah Ann now in the way that she did slay that breakup? I mean, I've never felt more connected to Hannah Ann than I did when she was breaking up with Peter. I was like, I feel her now. I get her.

She's standing up for herself. She, like, showed so much strength. And she did it. She was so, she had a lot of heart when she was doing it too. She was like, I was here completely for you. I was going to go through the thickest, shit I think she was like sassy but in a good like healthy way not like a bitchy way you know what I mean and I think she came across very well read and honestly I feel like she's like an inspiration to probably women in America all over because guys are constantly telling us like I want this this this you're perfect everything and they just drag us along just enough until it's like too late and I'm glad that she's stood up for herself because it's like it's guys. to stop at some point. So I feel like America is probably really relating to Hannah Ann right now.

I know I am. I'm too. I was really happy to see Hannah Ann really step up because I know throughout the season she's felt very youthful. Yeah. And I definitely even questioned, you know, last night on part one of the finale. Like, is she ready to like be engaged? Like she just feels very young. and to see how she handled the situation and really stood her ground made me really commend her. I agree with you. At first I feel like in that situation

like when there's so much going on, it's very easy to not speak your mind entirely. And I think she hit every, you know, base thought that she needed to hit. And I would walk away from that situation being like I got off of my chest everything that I needed to say and I feel really good about it. I honestly applaud her.

for that entire scene, because it was just well-spoken and very articulated. Very, very much. Yeah, I was really proud to see that from her. Savannah, anything about your friend, Hannah-Anne? I mean, I actually have never seen that side of her. You know, she was always just like the bubbly girl, so to see her stand up for herself was really great, because, I mean, she needed to in that moment.

And, yeah, I just was really proud of her. I think she feels probably, and I don't know Hannah-in-am, but I feel like she probably thinks like she took a lot throughout the whole season. Like she was always giving, giving, giving, and not getting anything in return. I think that was finally her moment to be like, you know what? Like, I'm just going to say my side now and I am going to have a backbone and I'm sick of it. And I think it was probably like the last straw. And she just was like, you know what?

I'm done. It's over. Let's go through some of Hannah Ann's best quotes of the night. She says to him, torn and conflicted Peter, you took the most precious moment from me because you selfishly did not want me to walk away. Then she says that she can't look at him anymore. She needs a man that is true to his word. She says, I don't need anything more from you.

You've done enough damage. She hands her ring back and says, and I mean that. And then she goes, you betrayed me. I need to get my life back on track now the way it was before all this. So good. She just like that. came with it. I know.

Man, it makes me, like, wish I was better at moments like that. It makes me want to redo a lot of my breakups. Yeah, I know. I was like, like, I was like, obviously, I'm not going to go through a breakup, but it's like the next fight I have with Jaredman, if I could just talk to him like that, that would be fun. Peter didn't even have a rebuttal. He was just like, oh, shit.

I think that's what bothered me. Actually, about this season is there. I was so rooting for Peter. so excited when he was announced the bachelor. But with every episode we've watched, he has said fewer and fewer words and he will just sit there and let people talk to him without even like responding

and even letting it register. It's like he is so afraid of his, of what he's going to say and how his words can be used against him that he just doesn't want to say anything. And you can just see him so in his head. And I know that because I think back to that infamous moment I had with Bibiana when she like Mike dropped me

and I sat there because like what people don't know is that you know they told me they're like hey Ari's done he's getting ready to he's finishing an interview you want to go in for the like just see him real quick before the road ceremony about to start I was like of course I do and um I went in

he was sitting with Bibiana talking and like I was lied to and so when Bibiana came out I went up to her and I go hey are you okay like I just want you to know like I didn't know you were with him and she like freaked out on me as we all saw and I just sat there frozen in fear just like oh my God

I know exactly how this is going to play out and as it was happening I was like trying to grasp the reality of the situation so anyway so I saw that and Peter and I just wanted to be like part of my heart really goes out to him you know because I was in that situation I want to be like, this is your story.

Don't let anyone write it for you. Stop being in your head. Like, feel with your heart and be present and make these decisions from a heartfelt place. So I think looking back, I'm sure he has, I'm sure he has, like he said, made a million and one mistakes and has had an extremely experienced situation for him to grow from. But I really feel for him. I really do. He has a soft spot in my heart. You could tell that his family comes from like a lot of love and a lot of emotion.

Yes. And as much as that's a good thing, I think that in this situation, it was probably one of his biggest flaws because he was trying to please everybody. And honestly, this is, that was exactly it. He was just trying to please everybody. He was honestly just trying to make everybody else happy. All the girls, the family, the producers, but not himself. Every single person but himself.

And not even doing this story for himself. This was not his journey. He was conflicted. you were every step in the way because no matter what girl was in front of him he was like I want to help you like I want you to be it like you're my person the hero to everyone exactly so I feel like he kind of shot himself in the foot how do we feel about bar but clapping for Hannah Ann and sort of abandoning her son in that moment during the live show wow I feel bad for Peter but at least she like I don't know even as I mean she's

more she's more team Hannah Ann and she is her own son I think that perhaps maybe she felt like she needed to choose a side and she'd already made a choice and wanted to maybe it was like a choice driven from ego where she's like hey I could be I stood by Hannah Ann and I'm going to follow through with that and maybe part of her was like perhaps she should waver but there was some like pride in there yeah but also Hannah Ann had great points so like how could you not comment her yeah I mean like she like shut that beep down yeah I mean yeah I think everyone was clapping. Yeah. All right, we're going to take a break. And when we get back, I want to talk about how this season finale was different than Ari or Jason Mesnix.

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This season's a little bit different, though, because in the other seasons, the lead, The Bachelor, went after his runner-up. and in this case I guess Maddie wasn't technically his runner up right this was a girl that left him it's also different because in this case the bachelor

didn't go back for her Chris Harrison went on his behalf and then in the other cases they both ended up in marriage with the runner up and in this case it doesn't even seem like we can commit to a relationship

a date yeah and we're not even committing to a date yeah not even a coffee It's like, we're friends. Like, there is no coffee mentioned at all. So, uh, it's going well. I feel like we're all kind of left wondering, like, after we're finishing the show tonight, I'm like, what even happened?

What's going on? Like, I feel like there wasn't like a concrete ending. I'm just kind of like, I need closure. That's it? Like, I don't know. I feel a little bit disappointed in the finale just because I wanted more answers. And I feel, I mean, it's totally fine. They don't have their stuff figured.

out. I would rather than, you know, trek lightly than jump into something. But I'm still like, oh, okay. Like, what's not? So, okay. I don't know. What's going on? Already that happened. Okay, cool. I don't know. I feel like I started getting a little, like, cringy. Grimy, you know? Yeah. Like, Jerry just ringer is too personal. Like, I didn't want to watch it anymore. Like, it was just like, y'all are going to kill each other. Yeah, I don't want to call my husband out. But, like, he's been saying for the past couple weeks, he's like, I think Peter's, just like kind of a playboy didn't really have the intention on settling down this early in life and I think the past couple weeks have really shown that that might be true especially with

his family talking about his lifestyle yesterday I don't I don't know so like part of me is feeling like maybe Peter just is like ready to be single again and like be done with this Bachelor life who's with me okay we think Peter's really over Hannah Brown no apparently not because that needs to be addressed. Yeah. That was another. I don't think that's a lot. Hannah Ann infers that he reached out to Hannah B for closure in the midst of their engagement.

Why is Hannah B? I think he asked her to like reach out. I think that's what she was saying. But why would he feel he would be? While engaged. I also. I also called. Yeah.

But is why is that necessary? That's out. Yeah. You're engaged. You don't need to be like you shouldn't need to do that. No, not at all. yeah you do that before yeah Amanda why do you think that he's like maybe still wanting to be on that single track I just think so far it seems like he kind of wants what he can't have so he like was

chasing Maddie because she left and then when he found out Hannah might not show up to the row ceremony then he proposes and then as soon as he had Hannah or as soon as he has Maddie I don't know I felt like him and Maddie's body language and everything was just kind of off tonight you know Where I couldn't really tell if he, like, was still as into it as we thought he was. What's interesting is the scene that we saw that was taped about a month ago out here in L.A. When Maddie surprises him by that pool, it seems like they're both genuinely into each other, very excited to see each other. We had that, we sense that closeness again. Really?

But then to me, yeah. You saw that? Yeah, but on the same thing? Really? I didn't really see it either. I thought Bashfield, too. I saw Bashful too. Did you see it?

I thought he was like, what are you doing? He couldn't, sweet, like. He couldn't look, he couldn't like Maddie in the face. Their foreheads were touched and while they were talking. Like, and what they were saying was intimate. I agree with you there. But like, he would, he could not look her in the eyes. Maddie, if you would like watch it back,

Maddie kept looking up at Peter, like while he was talking while they were talking. He never once looked back. I, you know what? I started, I'm sure he's embarrassed. He's just embarrassed because he was embarrassed. Because he was embarrassed that he's created. I have, yeah, I have to go back to what Amanda says. because Amanda made an amazing point.

She goes, he wants what he doesn't have. And I want to add one more point because we saw it tonight with a finale because Maddie came out and she goes, I love Peter, I want to be with Peter. His response, probably not going to work out. Uphill battle, for sure.

And then his mom... You know what Chris Harrison? He goes, do you love Maddie? And then he goes, yeah. He like paused and then he was just say, yeah. Yeah. He didn't say, I love Maddie. Yeah, that was really odd.

And then I didn't know. And then mom, Barb jumps in and tears Maddie down yeah and then Peter defends Maddie and says he loves her I'm just like what but Chris also didn't Chris Harrison ask Peter to like interfere was any like Peter don't you have something to say Peter didn't just like go ahead and say it on his own right yeah not on his own yeah so it was like he had to be asked which would kind of bother me but I mean maybe it was like that tonight because his parents were there watching and he was trying not to into Maddie because of his parents but still like Peter's in an awkward spot no matter what but I

feel like everybody is like I wouldn't want to be anybody I don't want to I mean Peter is a grown ass man despite his actions he is a grown ass man and he put himself in this position yeah and you know what overbearing mom or not it's up to him to say mom here my boundaries and I need you to respect them and it's his job to uphold those boundaries yeah but I do think he kind of defended himself to his mom. He did. He did. He said, I need you guys to listen to me. He said that. And I think it's because he probably watched, or he was there last night and she got you, you know what I mean? Like, it was just a bad episode last night. I think he's just so torn in between, like, wanting to defend his mom, because obviously he loves his mom, but he's like, come on. She's like kind of

being unreasonable. Speaking of the mom being unreasonable, we talked early. It was really tough to watch. No, we, yeah, we talked earlier about the fact that, um, you know, Madison says, you know, this is a relationship is a two-way street. This is my journey as well as his journey. I signed up for this for love and he signed up for this for love. And then the mom responds, and this is what we haven't discussed yet, she says this crazy shit. She goes, he's just going to have to fail to succeed. And all of his family and friends know that this will not last.

And I mean, you guys, how embarrassed. is Mr. Peter right now. Peter Sr. He had his head down the whole time. This is going to cause marital problems. I don't think he's going to want to look at his wife for like weeks because she's like embarrassing herself. I think there's like a place for her to voice her opinion.

I totally get that as like as parents voice your opinion and you're concerned. But after your child is like, listen, I've got this. This is how I'm feeling. Then back down. You don't have to sit there and like tear down Maddie. When when she said that, I was like my mouth dropped. I was like, did she just really say that? It has no way is it okay to rip people down.

And for her to sit there on stage at the finale on live television and speak to Maddie that way. I know. I'm just like, what did Maddie do? Maddie has only come across as a very kind, respectable woman, Savannah. You have anything else to say about that? I think she's just threatened by her. I don't think you see. I don't know how the old.

timetum like this is stemming around the whole ultimatum thing right like what else did mattie do nothing so like for her to have like so much animosity towards her it just doesn't make sense it's like there's that's why i feel like there's something missing it's that you know mattie doesn't party doesn't dream doesn't have sex peter does all those things and his parents know obviously and i think her mom was just like i don't want a woman to come in and change my man like right i think i'm sure i was talking, I was with Rachel Lindsay yesterday and she was talking, she's like, Barb is my mother-in-law. Like, I get it. It's like the, the Latina mother-in-law, it's very overbearing, very strong. And they feel very threatened by the women coming in to technically take over her

role within Peter's life. I was going to say, it seems very monster in law where it is like some weird thing of like almost jealousy. Totally. Like there's another woman here to take my spot. And I think that she actually saw that. Maddie had that power over him. Well, because she goes, if Peter will change, he'll leave me. Oh, she did say that? No, I mean, she didn't say it, but that's what you're eluded. Yeah.

Right? I mean, does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of why I felt like Hannah Ann would just be like, go along with that addition. Please the family. Easygoing. Yeah, I think like Maddie wants to start her own thing outside of that. And I think Hannah Ann, well, maybe this is just how his mom perceived it.

but like maybe she just thought oh okay like Hannah Ann she'll just like fall in and you know maybe we'll all live together in the house and like be does she really go by Hannah Ann or did she just go by Hannah because she was Hannah from Alabama yeah just like the other Hannah from Alabama I think she's from Tennessee but yeah I think she just didn't want to be another Hannah Hannah Alabama I really do think that Hannah Ann is maybe an add on the last thing that I wanted to add there is I call my sister really quickly after the finale and I'm just like can you believe Barb? Like, I can't believe this. And then she goes, I think she might be the most villainous villain we've ever seen on the show. There's our villain. That was our true villain.

I feel crazy. Barb hasn't, oh, I feel bad. Barb has no idea, like, how it all works. Like, they were showing her constantly. Producer Daniels was really bad. Apparently, I'm crossing the line. Am I crossing the line? I feel kind of bad. Well, it's crazy. I think Barb is just has no idea. That's what I was getting ready to say. I think Barb has no idea because, like, I don't think she realizes like how like the producers work and like that the cameras are on her at all times like I don't think I agree I think most people who aren't on the show which barb technically wasn't realized like you're you're being watched like no matter where you are so I feel like she probably isn't realizing like everyone's watching her like a hawk now and she's just getting like brutalized

for it but also like after last night I can't I can't speak for her tonight because after last night like I feel like she got a taste of it you should have a little bit better post. I'm going to say this, though, has there ever been a mom or a family member that has been brought in that has been completely torn a card? Yes. I feel like a family member hasn't had really that large of a role in the season. Maybe that, maybe there has been, we just don't know it. Like, Barb doesn't know that there's a little square of her face.

That's true. That's absolutely right. Yeah. Like, she didn't know. I feel like barb is. They did barb dirty. Yeah, but you know that. she talked to a producer earlier and they prepped her just the way they would have normal

no there's no way I think they probably won her they knew that she would react like that so they probably didn't you think they did I don't think they did and she went along with her I bet I know who it was too isn't it the best game that's the best game oh I know who said that yeah they got her riled literally something was actually said tonight and I was like oh that sounds like some certain someone I know there's certain lines especially the corny ones yeah that person didn't come up with it so and so did all right well is there anything that you guys can think that we didn't cover that was gigantic oh i just still feel like there's a puzzle piece missing i completely agree i feel like there should be a bonus episode

it could have been three hours yeah yeah it's there's so much missing there was just so many holes to everything so many holes is that because we didn't get a three hour finale Or is that making us, was that intentional to make us feel like a sense of emptiness in the end of all of it? It just feels very unfulfilling and it's surprising because I know that The Bachelor really is about finding love and stories. And I mean, this ending was just, I mean, what's sad is that this is kind of how a lot of relationships go. Yeah. And they didn't fantasize it. They just showed a very raw, real truth.

And I think a lot of us just have this expectation of what we want a fairy tale to be, but the reality is that fairy tales don't exist. And I think we saw that tonight. This is the third season now that we're not getting a traditional ending. Yeah. I just didn't feel the feels this season, you know? I feel like it was hard to connect with a lot of the girls. and then with the finale, I wasn't, I was just like, oh, okay.

Savannah, how do you feel about the flack that your season's been getting? I'm not going to lie. It's kind of embarrassing just because, like, you know, I'm lumped into that, even though I wasn't that kind of person on the show. So, you know, and then I do get frustrated, like looking back, like I said earlier today. It's like it is frustrating to know that, like, he did give in to all of this. I don't know. I just didn't feel like he was easily swayed by other people and, you know, he was manipulated and I don't know. It just, it all just is really frustrating to watch.

And I'm sad. I wanted, you know, I really wanted him to end up with Maddie just because, like I said, like that love was like undeniable, but then we just saw it just doesn't, it didn't feel like that love was there anymore. And so it's just kind of like, you just feel sad. You just want the happy ending to the, you know, do you think that maybe Peter was just so defeated that he had no love to give? Maybe. Yeah, but he was so hopeful in the beginning.

There's no way. I just feel like this has a lot to do with. But that was, the beginning was September. It's March. Yeah. It's been through a lot. I mean, imagine Hannah B. It's six months.

That's a difference. I think, I said this to somebody yesterday. I honestly, and I have no idea, but this is just an inference. I'm wondering, I feel like ever, since Hannah B showed up in the season, he has been different. Like, I'm wondering if she never showed up or they brought her on or however that happened. Can I just say?

Yeah. I feel like it may be, it would have gone a little differently. Were you there on that? Yeah. So on night one, even, it was like his mood shifted. Yeah. And it was like, so like right when I got out of the limo, you know, I did like the whole blindfold and made out with him.

And he was even like, I kind of pulled back and he just like went and even. harder and yes I was but yeah anyways um yeah so he was great like in that moment and like you could just you know you could just see it in someone's eyes like they're excited and and then the second time i talked to him it was right after he had talked to hana b and it was like the life was like sucked out of him like he just like a ghost yeah it was like he was smiling but like his eyes weren't smiling like he just like wasn't there like it was just like his mind was with hannah b like he kind got choked up when he came to talk to us and it was just I don't know I I did feel like he wasn't over her and then when we saw her again on our second or on our first group date I was just like

this guy is not over her and I think he really tried but ultimately he just didn't find the person that was better for him than Hannaby I also just say you guys have to realize like how much the bachelor slash bachelor goes through every single day like you really don't have time to process things and when he said at the end of the episode he's like I had two days to process what just happened with Madison and like sure you have two days and you could have talked to her but like you just realized like that person that you were in love with just like left and like you're supposed to just jump into another one kind of thing you do get what I'm trying to say it's just it's just a lot for someone to go through especially in um and the two days weren't Peter's situation

because Hannah didn't end up with anyone so I think he still had that lingering hope that it could end up together. And then two days were in black days. They were filled with pickups and interviews. Like you barely get asleep. And he had his final date with Hannah Ann too in those two days because I think Hannah Ann's date was after. So it's just like you constantly, like, yes, you sign up for that as a bachelor.

And I understand that. But it's like you have 10 minutes to make a decision. And like you have to like stick with it. Yeah. So like I feel bad for him. Like, you know? Yeah. So I wouldn't want to be any.

It's just a lot. What's crazy is that I Peter was the golden child's I mean they wanted him to be Ben Higgins 2.0 That's what I kept saying and he became Juan Pablo 2.0 I just hope that Peter has a support unit to really help him over the next couple months that he's not going to fall into partying or battle

old habits. Yeah. And really has like a healthy support unit to, um, you know, like rebuild himself and find himself. And I think we all, we've all been through this process. We've all gone through the show. We've all had moments that we wish we could take back or change or be better. And I'm sure right now he's just running those all through his head. Like, God, if only I could have changed out one thing. The one thing would have been him not sleeping with the other two. Could you imagine what the season could have ended like if he decided not to, you think so much further than that. you think so absolutely i think it goes back with him feeling strong in his own two feet and feeling completely confident in his own decision-making abilities i think what people yeah keep going no i think

that i think he doubted himself maybe doubted his ability he was ripped from you know barb's breast and put out to be the bachelor. And you're like, you know, he's like, mommy. Where's mom? No, and I say that. I like joke, but really I think that he maybe didn't know really what he wanted and maybe wasn't in a position to make that decision. I think people forget that like we were saying,

like we've all been through the show so we get this and that. So I think people forget viewing at home that like, everybody makes mistakes, ours are just filmed for America to judge. So like when people, I, like, I don't want people to be harsh on Barb or Peter. Except for, I'm sorry. Yeah, I mean, we're giving our opinions, but they're healthy opinions. But like, I just think, I think it's people forget, you know, they were talking about online bullying last, you know, during women tell all.

But like, everyone makes mistakes. And Peter has even said he's made a hundred mistakes during the season. But like a million in one. Yeah. But ours are just filmed. Yeah. And we all have a lot of sympathy. for what they're going through.

I know. I can't even imagine what their social media looks like. Oh, no, I don't even want to. It gives me anxiety. That's not fair. I don't even, I can't even imagine.

I hope they're not reading it. No, they really should like go on a foreign vacation, the whole family for a while. No, Corona. Corona virus. Well, they're stuck here. Yeah, I guess they can't. Oh, my gosh.

It's so sad. We can't. Wait, Canada or does this mean if Barb's going, they're all going on that Paris? Do we think it's weird that they didn't give Peter and Maddie? a little happy couple date after they reconnected. I thought that was very strange.

They may have, we just didn't see them. No, that it was the first time that they've seen each other. That's like, it's kind of weird to me too. Oh, wait, Amanda, what are you saying? I just don't know if Peter knows what he had. Wait, wait, right?

Amanda speaking. I said, I think that that was kind of weird to me too that they hadn't seen each other since that day. Yeah. Because they probably could have if they really wanted to, right? I just don't know if Peter knows. My only thing is maybe they, maybe they wanted it to be so awkward.

Like they wanted after the final rose to feel like it did. And they knew that if they were to get a weekend together, that they probably would be bonded enough in order to be like, yeah, we're in a relationship. We're a girlfriend. Or were they really just afraid that they'd be exposed because they tried so much to control the leaking, the mole of the Bachelor and the spoilers coming out.

So maybe there was that element too. We've got to take one last break. And when we come back, I'm going to get an update on these girls' lives. Stay tuned. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.

This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other. but I just want her gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating.

He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Humanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.

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on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, let's go down the row. Angela, what's the status with your love life? I am single and, you know, I'm going on dates and talking to people and having fun. Nothing concrete. Still haven't found a guy. I think I want to stick with for a minute, but I'm still super hopeful. And as always, you guys know, I'm the hopeless romantic.

And, yeah, but I'm still single and just working on my YouTube and traveling and just doing all the things. So I'm just having some like me time right now, honestly, and it's great. Amanda, your sister just moved to L.A. And you've been spending more time out here, right? Yeah, so we got a place together up here. That's so nice. So when you're not with the girls, you hang up here. Yeah.

And then when I'm working up here, I have a place up here. And then I still have my place in Orange County, too. So the girls will come up here and stay with me sometimes, too. Nice. But yeah, it's been good. Do you have any other life updates for us? Nothing really. So my clothing line just launched at Bloomingdale's, which is exciting.

Wow. Not really. I have clothes at Bloomingdale's. That's amazing. Lonnie the label, love from me. I love your stuff. I know. I love him and wear it looks so cute oh thank you so that's exciting but nothing really other than that

that's really incredible that's pretty big news thanks um okay so crystal um what's the status with you and chris now are you guys like speaking on a regular basis um anything you're open to sharing yeah no thank you for asking chris and i are you know still best friends that really love each other and we talk every single day okay and the last, I think it's been about a month since we separated, it's interesting because I was telling Angela, I've just felt such as, like, heaviness and sadness. And like I slept on his side of the bed every night. And we had a really huge breakthrough about a week ago where we realized there was just so much projection that was going on with each other and where we really had

to just take this time to understand and work through things within ourselves before we could really show up for one another in a relationship. And so we've decided that we are going to be, you know, living apart, but kind of coming back together in a way that's almost like dating again. Conscious recoupling. Yeah, it's something like that and out of the media. Okay. because I think there was just so many, so much opinions about our relationship.

And I think that was really difficult to have so much, so many people saying so many things about opinionating your relationship. Yeah. So we just had to peel it back and we're in a really good place. That's great. I'm really, really happy to hear that. Thank you. How the dog's been.

Oh, my God. They've been great. They've been mommy's little boys. Oh. And Tasia, I feel like. like the most recent rumored thing about your life is that you were in the running to be the Bachelorette. I feel like you were like one of the top three girls in the running.

Yeah. And anything you'd like to share about that? Aside from the fact, I'm actually really happy it's Claire. I feel like, honestly, we both probably have like the same objective. In my interviews of talking about possibly being the Bacheloret, I've always said, like, I really want to bring it back to what Bachelor was originally to me. And that was what it was a couple of years ago. And really just finding love and like getting away from this stupid drama and social media crap.

And love is such a beautiful thing. And I feel like you can really find your person if you really take it seriously. And I'm actually really excited for Claire. I think she is not going to take any bullshit, which I'm excited for. She's going to have older men, which that's exciting because that means they're going to be added to our pool, people. no offense like I tried the younger thing but like the older thing might be cool too but um I don't know I'm just really really excited for her okay that's so nice yeah that's really nice I genuinely feel like you feel that no definitely yeah it's not I'm not just saying it just to say that were you a fan

back in the day of Claire um to be honest Claire is new to me oh really yes so I started Ben's season um but my girlfriends had watched it every single Monday So I've heard them for years talk about Bachelor and all this stuff. And when I did kind of binge watch it, I was like, this is actually really cool. And I feel like Ben was really in it. Jojo found her true love in it. You know what I mean? Like it was just like a really good, I don't know, streak.

Yeah. And then all of a sudden, I mean, also Rachel found love, Becca found love. But just lately it's gotten kind of out of hand. Yeah. All right. Well, guys, I think that concludes our Bachelor finale podcast. And that makes me so sad. Lastly, Savannah, have you heard about a possibility of you being in paradise?

I hope I am. Okay. So I know that you were a little shy this time around, but you're still wanting to go and do the process again. Yes, I think. You got some time to think about it. Yeah, I know. I think I just like really, I need to like talk to you all. Like I just need some guidance, I think.

And but I mean, I do believe it works. And I want to find my man. So, yeah, I think it would be a good opportunity. It works better than going to a random bar. I think your odds are higher because if you do, like, the math on it, it's like, okay, say you put that many people in a bar. Would, like, one couple come out of that bar married at the end of the day? No.

No. There's a lot of, like-minded people. Yeah. Is there anyone from a previous season you would love to meet in paradise? yes honestly like I there's not really anybody yes there is someone yes there's always there was one guy that I thought was really really cute and he actually is kind of talking to one of my friends so I'm like okay well he's sliding into the DMs already yes yeah and he kind of lived by me too that was like perfect but you live where she's one of my really close friends

where do you live I live in Houston Houston. Oh, no. Mike. Mike? Oh, was it Mike? Mike's Texas. Mike is Texas.

Yeah. Oh, my God. Is it Connor? Oh, it's Connor. Oh. Her eye is twitching. Her eye is twitching. We're going to end that, this podcast on that tea.

All right, you guys. It's been a blast doing this the past day, recapping the most dramatic Bachelor finale. of all time truly truly right i mean is that is there any doubt to that no all right well we thank you guys for being here and joining me angela for flying out savannah for you know also flying out and um we will be back next week with a non-season episode with an update with an update apparently are you going to get some harrison updates for us already talked to him oh you already talked to harrison in today about about whatever just happened within the three hours they wrap the live show so we'll be coming to you with that news next week we love you guys so much and we miss

ben so much that he's been away and having a bad Wi-Fi connection on the road we'll get it together one day but until then I've been Ashley I'm Amanda I've been Amanda I've been Amanda I've been Amanda there we go I've been Angela I've been Crystal. I've been Crystal. Thank you. I've been Tasha. And I've been Savannah. Thanks guys. For the best. Bye. Bye. Bye. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcast on IHartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend. has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.

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