The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - After Hours with Kathy Swarts and Susan Noles

Episode Date: April 2, 2024

Ben is hanging out the latest Bachelor Nation podcasters, Kathy Swarts and Susan Noles from The Golden Bachelor! Ben shares some veteran podcasting advice and hears what caused Kathy and Susan to butt heads already! Kathy and Susan help answer a question from a fan who developed feelings for a much younger person.  And, we get an update on their love lives since the end of The Golden Bachelor!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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a video of our podcast but when we have very special guests we videotape it especially guests that look this beautiful kathy and susan are here we're going to be talking about your new podcast this big project called Golden Hour. We are thrilled. We've done our first one came out last week. And the feedback has been fabulous. So one of the things that we want to say is more about women, our age, and 50 and up. Not thinking life is over.

There's so much more life. And I always say it's the best chapter, right, Kathy? I think this is definitely going to be the best chapter. of our lives. But I think what is going to make our podcast a little bit different is we are not, we may look at, we're not 20 or 30 somethings. We definitely. We try. We try. But the issues that people our age face are very different. And I think the goal is to give people hope and give them encouragement to change their lives, to live life to the fullest. And that's really what I think we want to do. We're encouraging them to write into us so we can answer some of their questions.

My fair part. Yes. So we had a few write-in last week and Kathy and I on some of them were on opposite pages. Shocker. Shocker. And some of them we completely totally agree. Absolutely. But here's one of the things that we did last week. We had, we invited people to send us DMs if they had guys, you know, their grandpa, their next-door neighbor, whoever, to, for us to have dates with. So today, we're going to scream each other's. We're going to scream each other's dates. So today, we're at the airport, and I had this great idea, let's, I mean, it is April 1st. So I did, we did this video of us saying that we were in L.A.

We both had, they had done such a great job of sending guys. Fabulous dates waiting for us. So these people are all excited. And then we went through the whole thing about we were here for dates. It might lead to marriage. And then we looked right in the camera and said, April fools. Am I the first guy you've seen since you got to L.A. then? I actually talked to.

Yeah. That's good. You're it. That's good. I was the one waiting. Okay. So I want to break this down in some pieces here. My first one, and I'm very curious about, got another two of you, big personalities,

incredible people, have a lot of wisdom to share. Here's the thing that happens, because I've done this for eight years now with my co-host, right? School us, please. You're both talkers, right? You both have opinions, and you can have opinions and good opinions on every topic that's out there. So as two co-hosts, what makes the two of you able to co-host this together to learn that kind of dance, right? We're still learning. We're learning.

You're absolutely right. We're trying not to interrupt each other. No offense. I love you. you're my sister. You just interrupt me. Where are you going with us? Here I go.

Kathy's long winded. And sometimes I have to jump in or I wish there was like a cue or something that we could do, but we're working on it. We are. And then I find myself trying to over talk to get it all in. So we're going to work that out, right? It's a dance. It's a dance. And you figure it out, especially if you love each other, you care about each other, you

want the podcast to be successful. There are very many moments when you have to bite your tongue and kind of say, hey, I'm going to wait here. What Ashland I end up doing is we have a sign where I put my finger up or she puts her finger up. Hey, I have a point. I have a point. This isn't offensive. We both get it.

And after we do it for seven years, now I can jump in and be like, Ashley, where are you going with this? Or she can jump in and say, Ben, what are you talking about? But for a while, it was just, hey, give me some space here. I have something I want to say, or I have two questions in a row here that I want to ask because I'm trying to get somewhere with this. You don't overuse it. You don't abuse it. But it is helpful. Thank you.

Instead of just like getting frustrated because frustration will be a thing even when you really love your co-host and you're like, this is going to be great. Well, I think you hit on it, Ben. Susan and I think the same on many issues. But then something will come up and we are on opposite ends of the table. And, you know, I want to say what I think and she wants to say what she thinks. And that's where it takes the learning the dance. And my fear is I'm going to forget what I was going to say because I'm

listening and paying attention to what she's saying and now my my thoughts racing but it's something that you know we're new at and you should see my notepad so when we record i have a notepad next to me and i jot down notes on questions i want to ask because you always will forget and you'll and the worst thing when you're doing an interview and you have 30 minutes is when you sit there and like i forgot what i was going to say and you're sitting there like lost in your thought so i just take little notes here's the thing that i had to get used to this is really hard for me It probably happened. I mean, we've been doing it for eight years, or seven and a half years.

So probably only three years ago I used to this. There are things in my notepad that I never get to. I have to be okay, just throwing it in the trash. Because the conversation's moved on past that point, right? We're in a flow. This is kind of the medium that we get to do. It moves forward. And if it's moved forward too much, I'm like, I don't get.

You can't go back. Can't go back. And the only people who are going to know, it's you. It's you. It's like writing. When I, I've done a lot of writing in my life. life. And I think, oh, that's a great sentence. But sometimes you have to take it out. And the only one that knows it's missing is me. Same thing. And here's the other point of podcasting. I've never met anybody

that listens to the podcast because they want to hear the hosts, especially if you have a guest, talk more than their guest. Because they're going to hear your voice every week. Now, you just mentioned that you are getting people writing it. That's something we just started the Almost Famous podcast about four months ago. It's called Almost Good Advice. I've listened. Yeah. And the reason that we do almost good advice is because neither Ashley nor myself are experts. But we always have different opinions. We see life on completely

different spectrums for multiple reasons, right? One, you know, she's a wife. She's a mother. She comes from the East Coast, right? My faith is very important to me. I'm from the Midwest. I'm a husband still newer to it, right? Compared to her? I have a dog. He's a handful.

But we never, agree really. And that's the beauty of what happens at some point is you can start to argue in a way that's like, I don't know if I'm right or wrong here. So how are the two of you going to argue passionately with being okay with being wrong? Can I answer that? We agree to disagree. Okay. One of the things when we were looking over those things prior to going on air and you had an opinion, your reaction was a certain way. Then when we thought about it and you started easing up, little. I said, no, stay with your original reaction. Stay true to yourself. Oh, it's not a matter of me staying true to myself. Well, no. When you start thinking about something, then you think, well, maybe this may be that. You talk yourself out of it. Well, it's just you But some things made sense probably. Some things make sense, but I think sometimes a knee-jerk reaction is not necessarily, you know, the best advice, right? So you have to think about it. But as you said, we're not professionals. We're given you from

our life, what we've learned in life. But wait, can I just tell you the best question that we had so far? Let's hear your opinion. So, Ben, 69-year-old guy, 30-year-old woman, divorced, living next door with two children. The 69-year-old's been invited over for dinner several times. He kind of wants to lean in and kiss her. He thinks he's got feelings for her. I'm like, Susan, can you count from 30 to 70 and do it slowly?

because that's how many years apart they are. Now I'm going to say this story, okay? She's exactly right. She's divorced with two small kids. He lives next door. They're very good friends. The children know him. He goes three times a week for dinner.

Okay. But he is having a feeling that he wants to kiss her. Sure. She got stuck on the age, right? Pop Pop. I said, when you lean in to hug her every time, you'll know. You look her in the eyes. or communicate with them.

So was the question... Should I kiss her, but I don't want to ruin the French. So it was written from him saying, should I kiss her? Yes. And let's just give a little tease to your show then. Your differing opinions were... Can you count from 30 to 70? Age difference matters, you're saying.

Age difference matters. And I said we don't have all the information, but she's 30 and he's 69. And she's probably inviting him over because her grandfather is probably dead and she feels sorry for him because he's living by because his wife died. She likes him. She likes his company. His wife died. It's a sympathy dinner. So Susan, your advice was? Three times a week is not a sympathy dinner. I said you can usually tell if you look them in the eye if they want to reciprocate. If not when you go to hug or just say, I really want to kiss you. But if it's going to ruin our friendship, I won't. 30. I don't care. I'm not telling you they're getting married. Maybe they want to.

to just have a little affair. Who cares? So let me dig into this a little bit here. So age is an issue to you, Kathy. You think that like... Listen, my son just married a woman. Susan actually married them two weeks ago. And she is 10 years older than my son.

She's fabulous. I'll do 10 years. But I think 40 years is different generations. It's different culture. It's different every thing. There's a lot of differences. Now, Susan, your opinion is if you were 30, let's throw back to when you were 30 years old and this happens, right?

She was 20. How would you have wanted this to be handled? Same way for him to ask you? Because I feel like as a 35 year old, that even asking I want to kiss you, you're already kind of messing up the, if it's not right, if she's not into it, you're already messing up to three times a week dinner, right? Exactly. So there's maybe another way.

So if I have to think about it and sleep on it And listen to your opinion and her opinion Yes, it does make sense In my head, it might have been a little affair Or something that they were going to keep as adults There's nothing wrong with that To each his own, that's how I felt I don't want to judge

I know we could probably find Some people out there who have a big age gap I don't even put a number to it That have real love Yeah, but that have real love That have found love, companionship, partnership, and they're making it work together and it's made their lives better

for whatever romantic relationship, whatever the benefits are of that. Never say never. Never say never. But this is the beauty of this. You guys are going to come at it from two different opinions. Sure.

Now, one of my final questions for the two of you, when it comes to Golden Hour, you two are sitting down your best known because of your time on the Golden Bachelor. Can fans of,

people that are not fans of the Golden Bachelor, I've never seen the show Would they get anything out of your show? Absolutely. Absolutely. We're more about reaching women of America and sharing that it's not over. Like we just said, your best chapter is yet to happen. Whether it's a friendship, a relationship with a man, a hobby, no matter what it is,

people get stuck sitting on the sofa thinking they're too old, life is over. You know, I'm just going to sit here. And I think, I think, yeah, I think, yeah, I think. This podcast is a jumping off point from the Golden Bachelor and our experiences. But it's not that we have all the answers. We've lived a lot of years, but that's both of our hope that we can talk about things from our point of view from where we are in life, having had children and spouses die and divorces that will maybe give some insight and help other people find more meaning

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the question I always end our conversations with is if you have one person, and you're going to have a group of people, many people that listen, what do you just hope they take from it? Like when they're done listening to you, if there's just like one clear sentence, one couple words here, what do you hope they feel?

I hope they feel that their day is better and they got some kernel of encouragement and happiness out of listening to us. Feel better about themselves and realize they're not invisible. So you can listen to the golden, Our podcast with Kathy and Susan. We're anywhere you can listen to podcast, I'm assuming. You do have to go on Bachelor Happy Hour to find us.

So you're in Bachelor Happy Hour thread. So you go to Bachelor Happy Hour. You can find the Golden Hour podcast with Kathy's. And it's under Bachelor Happy Hour. Perfect. And it's weekly. And follow us. Yes.

And if you want to write in, it's Bachelorhappihour.com forward slash golden hour. And you can submit your questions. And you want questions from. All every walk to life. Also, can I just, can I just plug unmercifully? Yeah, anything. If you have that special grandfather, father, uncle, hot guy next door. Please send them our way.

We'll fight over them. Well, my final question for the two of you is going to be, have you dated since the show? We're shaking our heads. I did have one. Yeah. Okay. You win. Yeah.

Not good. I met him in up. No, he's a nice man. Can I translate for Susan? When Susan says he's a nice man. He might be listening. You're a nice man. No, he is a nice man and I still talk to him.

That's great. We met Marshalls. Hey, I mean, that's your modern day love story. She was shopping for aprons and he was looking for socks. The two of you are great. I can't wait to listen. Fan of the two of you, you're going to be great together. This is going to be an amazing dance.

I can't wait to see the evolution of the show. and the two of you as hosts. It's going to be fantastic. Can we have you on? Anytime. I'd love to be there. You're one of the ones we want to come. Never, I would never say no.

I think you, I just want to say, I'm plugging your podcast. I listen to you and I think you are an amazing man for your age, for any age. You give incredibly good advice. I love it. Thank you, Kathy. You've always been very nice to me. It means so much. I'm honest.

It really, well, thank you. I know you are. We love you. Hey, again, Golden Hour, Kathy and Susan, under the Bachelor Happy Hour podcast thread. Tune in, check it out. We want to hear from you. Congratulations. We'll see you there.

This has been The Almost Famous Podcast, and I've been Ben. We'll be back, well, next week. It's off season here at the podcast. Bachelor is over. And so now we're transitioning into really great interviews, really good content, some more almost good advice. And also we're going to start teasing the next season of the Bachelor. Bachelorette, which obviously has started filming.

We have some big news on that. We're going to talk about why they're not at the Bachelor Mansion this year. Absolutely shocking. We want to know. We want to inquiring minds. So we'll be back until next time. Until then, I've been Ben. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcast on IHartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.

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