The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Alexia Nepola and Jennifer Fessler and the Gray Divorce

Episode Date: June 26, 2025

Housewives stars Alexia Nepola and Jennifer Fessler are joining forces to give you the latest in divorce news! Which A-list celeb is having his own "gray" divorce? (And some tips on how to navigate your own silver situation). Plus, Alexia explains how watching her own marital issues play out on camera, right now, makes her feel! And, the women give their thoughts on fellow housewife Porsha Williams' post-divorce interview.   Email us at: [e-mail] or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Search All the Smoke and listen now. Hi, guys. Welcome back to I do Part 2. I'm so excited to be on today. I'm one of your celebrity mentors, Alexia and Nipola, from the Real Housewives of Miami. And I'm so excited to have my fellow mentor, Jennifer Fessler, from the Real Housewives of New Jersey, on with me today. Hi, girl.

How are you? Good. I'm doing great. How are you? I have to say I'm very excited to have a chance to like, I mean, we've met before, but we haven't really had a chance to sit down and shoot the show. And I'm a huge fan. I have to be honest.

Thank you. I'm also a fan of your show and a view. And I'm so happy that we get to do this together and have some. fun. Me too. Me too. It's going to be actually, I think, a really interesting episode. I mean, as long as it's not about me and my divorce, I can talk about anybody else's divorce, right? What divorce? Going there. I have a feeling you're a little tired of it. Yeah, I kind of am. Yes, I am. You want me to ask you about it? When I got the notes, well, you know, it's not in the notes. So when I got the notes and I'm like, oh my God, of course, yes, I'll do it as long as I

don't have to get to talk about mine. But, you know, divorce is going on. Every single second, every single minute that we're talking, unfortunately. But, you know, sometimes, you know, it is necessary. And I feel like being in the public eye is just one of the causes of divorce just in itself. Just like for me personally, like that's what I believe. And today we're going to be talking about celebrities who are, you know, who are going through a divorce right now. And, you know, different kind of divorces we're going to talk about,

which is actually like fun and cute because I don't know about you, but I had never heard about great divorce and silver divorce. You know, I just, I want to say to you, and I'm not asking you anything. I just want to say that I think that it's like, I think it's so easy, right, for people in the outside to watch, they don't know what you've been through, but they know what they read or they know what they hear. And it just, what you've been through reminds me, I hadn't been divorced, but I was separated for like a year and a half.

and there is it is such i'm very crass alexia so forgive me but it is such a mind right when you have those types of feelings that you have at me at least at my age i had i was seeing someone when i was in my separation and the feelings are overwhelming for me especially i was you know i was older and got caught up in this relationship that i and it felt like the sparks and the chemistry and ultimately it wasn't right for me and i'm not asking you about you in pod. But people don't understand how hard that can be when you are intimately, emotionally involved with someone for whatever reason. And it doesn't matter what everyone says or what everyone does. It's like you close your eyes, at least for me, I remember. And all it is is about

that person, that person, that person, that person. And I just know you've been through it. And sister, I admire you because that's not easy. It's not easy to do it. And you know what's the most difficult part is having to share this, you know, on TV because, you know, it's already hard enough, gender. You're going through this privately, you know, between, you know, your husband and wife. And then you, you're, like, put in a position that I was filming a show. And I've always been very real, you know, I live my truth. I've been very authentic.

And that's what you guys got to see. You know, you got to see. And we'll continue to see because, you know, our episode is, you know, we'll be airing for a few months now. So for a few months. So you'll get to see, like, my whole journey. and it really has not been easy but there was I had no other choice

I had no other choice and you know like I said you know you guys don't get to see the full story you know you get to see you know whatever day I was filming whatever Alexa was doing that way you know I was that you know I was an emotional roller coaster you know sometimes it was good sometimes it was bad the high is the lows

so you guys got to see me like the most vulnerable and however I showed up that day whatever I was feeling that's what you guys saw but it was extremely difficult gent like I honestly like I don't know but I feel like every season for me is like that well I can't I'm not and I don't say this just to be self-deprecating I'm like I was a friend of a housewife for two years it's not the same right apples to apples I haven't been through years and years of this so but

for me even on days that were bad there's there's life outside of what the camera catches to have to sit there go through glam you're getting phone calls whatever part of your life is creeping in and whether it's you know for me my husband my kids a friend is in trouble a and then it doesn't matter because then boom cameras are on but all of that stuff is still there it's in your stomach it's in your body you know what i mean it's like once you get that anxiety my friend always says this i think it's so true like it's hard to get it out of your body so now you're filming and you already have a lump in your throat and you're interacting and you're talking about things that it's hard to even focus on i don't know i i i i i i i

I give it. It was one of the hardest things that I've had to do, you know, one of the hardest things. And then reliving it because that's the other thing. That was 17 months ago. I had to relive all that, you know, episode one, episode two, which was a breaking point for me. And, you know, and you'll get to follow my journey. You know, that's all like I want to say. Like for now, I don't really want to talk about it.

But, you know, you guys will get to see it. And, you know, for me, the most important thing is that it's unfortunate that you only get to see, like, you know, bits and pieces. you know, because the show is not only about me. It's about other, you know, I shared the show with eight other women. You know, we all have a story to tell. And to a certain extent, it's about Todd. I mean, it's not easy, right? I mean, you don't get to see the full story, you know.

Unfortunately for him, you know, since we're talking about him, you know, you're going to get to see that. But, you know, there's good and bad, like in every relationship and there's highs and lows. And, you know, we're here today to talk about other people's divorce. Okay, yes, yes. I just wanted to make sure that you want to make sure that you know, know that I appreciate just what you're doing, how you're hanging on, and you're inspiring.

Oh, sometimes, thank you, Jen. Sometimes, like, your pain turns into purpose. And if I can help any woman, and that's not what I want, I'm not trying to play victim. I'm not trying to be inspiring. I'm just leaving my truth and I'm telling my story. Well, that's why, by the way, with what we're talking about you guys, yes, divorced, but right now specifically, we're talking about women of a certain age that get divorced. and Alex and I were just talking about something called gray divorce,

which I hadn't heard of, or silver divorce. And I guess it's when people that are over 50 get divorced, people that have had a long-term marriage, but there's all of these tips, I guess it was in USA Today, talking about how to survive that, because I think it's probably different. Divorce is going to suck. It doesn't matter the age, doesn't matter.

But it's probably a little different, and maybe even in some way scarier when you're older and you've shared a life with someone for so many years you've shared a house to someone you've shared kids with them and you've shared money with them

and these things become you know all of a sudden you get upended and everything that you knew I think I mean I haven't I haven't gotten a divorce yet but anyway so but there's this advice

that in this article so we'll just like You're going to just go through it and then you'll tell me, I'll tell you my income. So one of the tips is don't expect to have the same lifestyle after divorce. That's a problem that stops a lot of women from wanting to get divorced because they're afraid, you know, to lose their lifestyle. And I feel like, I'm a lot of women, yes, like stick, you know, to their relationship and because they're afraid, you know, they're going to afraid. What's going to happen to them? And, you know, like we said, you know, they're older.

So, like, where do they start again? You know, women in the workforce don't have the same opportunities when they're 50s, you know, versus their 20s or 30s. So it's like a really scary position to be in. And by the way, I have friends who got divorced later in life. And I honestly, I hate to say it. Not all of them, some of them are living their best lives. Some of them that say divorce is so underrated, like it's the best. But I have many of them who also say they wouldn't do it again.

You know, their lives got turned so upside down. What do you mean? They wouldn't have to divorce again. Right. And so much of this, I know you guys know this, but I'm sorry to say it out loud, but it's just about finances, right? And I guess for a lot of people, when you've lived a certain way, you know, you don't have to necessarily live like a housewife or a billionaire. But even whatever makes you, whatever's comfortable might not be so comfortable anymore, right? And like your standing habits may have to change and your home may have to change.

and forget about the fact that you're also divorcing and all the complications that go along with that, not easy. Right. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast,

so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem. but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them.

I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel, writer Strong, and Wilfredel from PodMeets World. And we're bringing you Viva Las Content. That's right. We are back in Las Vegas, the city of sin, and giving the people what they want. A full week of Y2K content.

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And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the I-Hifference. Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, luckily, we're going to speak about Delman. What's his name? Tomom. Oh, about Dylan Mulroney?

Yes. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Because he just, also, he filed for divorce from his wife whose name. There's no way. You try that. I can't do it. I know.

Prima or something. She changed her name, actually. I think she made it worse. I felt like her name before she changed it was. a lot easier to see. She's Italian sense. Yes. But from her new name, Prima.

And, you know, in their case, you know, you would wonder, you know, they're both, she's a singer-songwriter. You know, he's an actor. They have, you know, two teenager children. And they were together for 15 years, you know, and he filed. But so what do you think is happening? Do you think that people are just getting, like, tired of each other or they just, like, grow apart because they spend too much time apart and then they get.

comfortable with being alone. I mean, there's so much to unpack, you know, with these divorces. First of all, we don't live in their houses. That's to start off with. Because, you know, we all have an opinion, but, you know, we don't live in there. We don't sleep in their bedrooms. We don't know what goes on, right? So we're just kind of like speculating, you know, on what could have gone wrong.

And only them to know what went wrong. Listen, I'm sure, I don't know. I'm guessing they didn't read this article before they got divorced. And I think their issues, I don't know if it would be, if their issues are similar to getting a grade divorce, but like the money stuff, I would think for these types of people from really big celebrities

is also a very different thing, maybe more complicated, maybe less complicated. I think that he, it says that they're amicable, right? I mean, that's what the article said. It said no one's asking for anything. No one's denying anything.

They're not arguing over children or money. That seems very, very unusual. Yeah, it seems to have a mediator. They haven't hired an attorney. They're trying to resolve it. You know, I think, too, that sometimes also I think it's a huge factor is when they both want out.

So when they both want out, I feel like it's going to be amicable because there's nothing to fight about. I don't want to be with you and you don't want to be with me and we have two children and they're almost 18 years old and we want to be good parents

and we're going to be civil about this. So I think that's a lot easier. I think it becomes a problem when it's not consensual, when they're not in the same page, it's not mutual. Like one really wants a divorce, the other one doesn't want it, and also money.

If you're not fighting over money, I think money is like the number one thing that couples fight about. Yeah, you see it. You see even like the divorces that maybe could have started out, amicable dissolve. I don't know how P.K. and Dorett's divorce started out

if it was amicable beginning, but all I keep reading is I don't know the truth, but they're fighting over money. Let me ask you this. Alexia, if you're getting divorced, you've lived in a house for years and years and years, do you because they said something about don't get hung up on the house

yeah because women usually get hung up on the house but then guess what happens they can't afford it because you know that's what happens and then whatever little money they're getting or whatever even if it's a lot of money right they're spending everything on the home on the mortgage on the expenses and then they run out of money I am always a firm believer

that it's better to have cash you know what you want the house stick your house stick your butt stick your house up your butt and I don't want your house and you stay with the house and you deal with it I always feel like it's better to have cash, you know, in your, in your bank. Yep, yep, yep.

So listen, I think that for me personally, I wouldn't even want to stay in the house. Like, the house is part of the old life. You know what I mean? It's like, I don't know, but I know a lot of women do. They don't want to be kicked out of their house, and I understand that. But for me, also, I, and again, I maybe I'm just saying this and when it, if it actually happened, I would feel differently, but I would want such a fresh start, such I would want smaller. I would want easier. Whatever makes my life more peaceful. And I think a lot of women do

get caught up in that. And I think they get caught up on it. First of all, it feels like it's their house, of course. Maybe it's the size. They don't want to downsize. But also, I mean, the experts are now saying, you know, just you won't leave, I won't leave the house. Like, you're doing yourself a disservice in a way. So, which I think is interesting, right? Especially if you can't afford it. You're definitely doing yourself a disservice. But sometimes it's more like fried. You know, like I stayed with the house. You know, I, I understand sometimes that moms, you know, women that are moms and have children want to stay in the house.

You know, the children are really going with that trauma of, you know, their father not living there and the separation. So they want to keep the children in the home because it's familiar and it just, you know, it's just better for them as a family unit for the mom and the children. But, you know, speaking about divorce later on in life, yet the great divorce. Right. These older women are staying with the homes. and then what happens is they burn all their money,

they go through their money just to maintain the house and then they're left with nothing. Right. Yeah, I'm totally on the same page. What about, so when I was separated and we were talking about divorce, this is going back a long way, but in my mind, like you have to be married to a certain amount of years,

then you get permanent alimony and what kind of alimony was getting. But I don't think any of that, I don't know exactly how it stands right now, but I don't even know if there's any such thing is permanent alimony, right? And if you get it to the rest, I don't, things have changed a lot.

They have, you know, to benefit the men and with all the defense, you know, you know, a lot of these men, you know, they do, were stuck with permanent alimony so many years ago, you know, do grow older and then what are the chances that they can retire, you know, and like some I have like money for them too. So, you know, I'm, I'm 50-50. You know, I feel like there should be some kind of law that alimony can't be, you know, until, you know, like,

Social Security agents or, you know, you're so much older because, you know, a lot of men have to keep on working can never retire because they need to take care of their wife. But I think that also depends on the state, right? It depends also like every state has like different laws, you know, and whatnot. But some of these women in other defense have never worked a day in their life. So imagine you marry your high school sweetheart like in their 20s or and, you know, you have children. You never work. You know, they give you like this, you know, beautiful and credible life where women have never like had to you know be responsible for bills or anything and then they're left at 50 something and they usually replace you with somebody that's younger so you know apart from

everything you're going through you also have to worry about how are you going to live the rest of your life no it's brutal and you know i just i feel like and all of this depends on the specific couple and but there's always just so much mess did you hear about portia williams have you did you Yes. By the way, do you see that in, what was it, what was it in? In People, and People magazine. Oh, my God. She was doing the Angela Bassett thing.

Yes. Oh, that was so badass. I love Portia. I got to know Portia. We were on the Ultimate Girls trip together to Thailand. And she brought so much joy. You know, she just likes a room when she comes in. And by the way, she had just, she flew because, you know, her work ethics are so strong.

And she left Simon and her family to come film with us at the Ultimate Girl's Tour. And she had just been on this beautiful vacation, you know, with Simon all over Europe. And she flew from there, basically, to Thailand so she can work. And, you know, I totally understand for sure because I feel like she's like me. Like, we believe in love, the idea of love and the romanticism and the whole thing. So she meets this guy, and she swept off her feet because he's like a prince, you know, from Africa, whatever, you know. I mean, not literally a prince with the title, but I'm just saying, like, and he treats her like a princess. And she's just, like, falls in love with him.

You know, she's not, she hasn't had such great relationships in the past. So it's easy, you know, when you're like down and vulnerable or whatever, like somebody comes, you know, into your life. And you're like, whoa, I can like that. You know, I can fall in love with the person. She talks about, I think they were like, there was a 15 year age gap, right? Or 17 year. 17 years. Yeah.

Do you think that that's a factor? I think that's at the break. If I had to do it again, I'm going older. And I am, I don't know if that was a factor specific. in their breakup. I feel like especially when you've been through a lot, what you look for probably, at least my opinion,

I would look for peace. Yeah, but that doesn't guarantee peace. An older man absolutely doesn't. And an older man does not guarantee stability either. You know, there's a lot of older men that are emotionally unavailable, they're emotionally immature,

and they bring nothing to the table. So, but I do get it in her case because she was so excited about this man, even though I know it was like the husband of one of her friends on the show, you know, I don't have too much information about that or do I care

because I don't think anybody really breaks anybody's marriage. You know, obviously he was not okay with his ex when he, you know, wanted to, you know, date Portia. So that's like a whole different thing. But what I'm trying to say is that I understand why she fell in love with this man.

And, you know, she kind of thought that he was going to, like, save her from whatever she was looking for. You know what I mean? We're all looking for different things in different stages in our lives. You think that you're more susceptible. Like, I think that if I'm looking for love, because even you're right, older men don't

necessarily, they're not necessarily more stable. They're not necessarily more emotionally aware. But for me, I would just be so tired. You know, at some point, what do you want in life? I mean, I don't know if you, let's not to make this about you, but like, do you still want at a certain age, are you still looking for the spark? I mean, you always talk about, you know, how, and it's important that you're so attracted. Did I know not talk about topic?

You're always so attractive. I mean, I've read through my journey. I've like come to understand that a spark is not a good thing, right? But you know what? Sometimes you don't have that spark and it still doesn't turn out the same. So I need to feel excited. I need a little bit of that spark and I need a little bit of that challenge. But at the same time, and I've wanted this at all stages in my life, not now that I'm older.

I've always wanted peace, stability and just happy. Like a happy family. Like, you know, I love my children and I love my children. and I love my children to be happy with me and whoever I'm with and just be happy. I mean, that's what I always wanted and just peace. I want you to come to add things to my life, not because I lacked them, but because I just wanted to be even better and like, you know, and have more joy. So that's, I mean, that's the trick.

It's like, yes, I don't, you have to be attracted to someone. You have to be excited to, even after all these years, like, I always make jokes about, you know, I'm too, I'm not, I'm in menopause and if I never had sex again. But I always want to like, I always want to touch my husband. him to be close to me physically and that you know what I mean just like even if it's just holding hands he makes me feel safe and I like the way he smells and whatever all of that but but I think at some point maybe the good thing about going through a silver divorce or whatever is that you're smarter and you're right it's not just you get older does not necessarily mean more stable but you're smarter

right and you know what you want I think that's the key thing I think as we get older you know what you know and we may change you know you can be changing husbands every time like we change but what i'm trying to say is like as we get older you know we really know what we want and we're not going to settle i think when we're younger we settle and when there's children you know and involved you know we we settle as well but i feel like now you know at our age we really know what we want and we're not going to you know and you know we have our boundaries You know, we've created like a different vision of what makes us of how we want to be happy. And it has to be somebody that's going to, you know, be on the same right with us, you know.

My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor. a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds

totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive phenomenon, Listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Writer Strong.

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We sat down with Kevin Richardson and A.J. McLean just minutes before they took the stage, and our very own Wilfredel basically became the newest member of the band. Boy band, please. Plus, the man who has the longest running comedy show on the strip joins us and gets his props. It's carrot top, baby. And finally, we all L-O-V-E-Hur, Ashley Simpson-Ross, joins us to talk about her upcoming sold-out Vegas residency. It's a full week of nostalgic interviews you don't want to miss. Listen to PodMeets World on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Oh, yeah. We've got some of the biggest actors, musicians, content, creators and culture shifters sharing their real stories of failure and success. You were destined to be a start. We talk all about what's viral and trending with a little bit of chisement, a lot of laughs, and those amazing vivas you've come to expect. And of course, we'll explore deeper topics dealing with identity, struggles, and all the issues affecting our Latin community. You feel like you get a little whitewash because you have to do the code switching?

I won't say whitewash because at the end of the day, you know, I'm me. but the whole pretending and cold, you know, it takes a toll on you. Listen to the new season of Grasas Has Come Again as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number.

and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was overwhelming.

and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace. You discover the depths of your mother's illness, the way it has echoed and reverberated throughout your life, impacting your very legacy.

Hi, I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the profound and powerful stories I'll be mining on our 12th season of Family Secrets. With over 37 million downloads, we continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories. I can't wait to share 10 powerful new episodes with you, stories of tangled up identities, concealed truths, and the way in which family secrets almost always need to be told. I hope you'll join me and my extraordinary guests

for this new season of Family Secrets. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My husband and I are, like, there's this whole thing about watching TV and the happiest couples do watch TV together, don't have TV together. But, like, to me, just translates to like space like I might my husband and I are not in any sense of the word all over

each other and if I'm being completely honest like when we watch TV we don't fight over which show because I'm upstairs watching TV and he's downstairs watching TV well that's like watching a part together and you know what there's nothing wrong with that it's again like what we're saying it doesn't necessarily mean because you're sitting next to each other and you're holding hands of being cuddly that you have a beautiful wonderful relationship and you're so connected and there's so much intimacy you know that doesn't really you know mean that so sometimes it is better that you get to watch your shows that make you happy and make you laugh and he can watch whatever shows he like thing and then at the end of the night you both go to your bed and you both go to your room and there you cuddle

and then you're intimate and then you do whatever you have to you know what I mean but I don't think that that determines whether you have a good relationship or not I agree I say this to my daughter all the time she has a boyfriend and she adores him they adore each other but I'm like reach you can't everything is not about I won't say his name just in case but like Z everything is not about Z Z Z Z where is he what is he what is he doing

is he mad is he not you gotta have your own thing your own thing separate from him separate from this relationship like I always encourage her you have to have you know you've got to nurture other

friendship this is the time to get busy not to just your whole self into a man, into a relationship. You know, and I, listen, I don't, even a little, like, I'm alone, I love my alone time. That's important, too. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but I feel like sometimes, you know, we say, you know,

like I hear like a lot of women, you know, that they want to control the man, like, oh, like on Sundays, I don't want him to watch football. You know what? If it's good for him, football is not so bad, by the way. When I hear my friends complaining about, oh, my husband wants to play golf, I'm like playing golf is not so bad. It's actually a good thing, Fran.

And that doesn't mean, not like he doesn't want to be with you. No, he wants to be with you, but he also likes to play golf and be with his friends. So that's cool too with me. So, you know, I don't know. I think we just got to be smarter about it. And, and, yeah, and keep on watching, you know, the women need to keep on watching the real housewives. Yes. Well, that's how you learn everything.

Right. How are you going to live and know how to live your life unless you're on your life? Of course. And the men can watch his sports or whatever it may be. And please don't let your guys watch the housewives. You know, I don't like when the guys come up to me say, oh, by the way, like I watch with my wife. I'm like, no, no, no.

You shouldn't be watching. Yeah. But so, yeah, so that's fine. You know, I think that that's actually healthy and good for the relationship. I do too. Would you ever consider sleeping in separate beds? No, absolutely not. Like that's my favorite.

I wouldn't either. Perkins are in a relationship is actually sleeping on the same bed. I agree. People talking about that, but that wouldn't be for me either. I mean, and not because of sex, just because there's something about company. Of course, you want to wake up together, go to sleep together, give each other a good night kiss, you know, cuddle. I mean, whatever, whatever may be, but no, definitely we have to sleep in the same bed.

Yeah, I'm with you. Alexia, big kudos to you, girl. Like, people don't understand. You're going through it, and you're showing up and looking like that, actually. Oh, thank you. You know how to actually find a little annoying. It's more of an accusation. Like, you never just let yourself fall apart?

No, you know what? I try to keep it together, you know, as much as it could. I mean, I think the most I fell apart was the season. And like I said, you know, there were like times that I couldn't even like show up to film because I was feeling that shitty inside. You know what I mean? And I just couldn't do it. But, you know, besides that, you know, I love to work out and I keep myself busy.

I feel like that's my biggest therapy is just, you know, moving. Just keep it moving. I have a lot of great friends and family and support. And, you know, I feel like when you're going through something like this, you really need your friends. Well, having said that, I want to be your friend. So please, like, I always have, it's funny, you're going through Housewives. You're like, you see people on TV and you kind of like, I feel like her and I could really do this. For sure.

We have a good bonds. And like, my idea, I did meet you also. I love your energy. I love who you are. And we have so much to talk about. I love that you love to talk like me. Yeah. Yeah.

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