The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous Adventures: Would Keith Gordon Date a Fan of The Golden Bachelorette?

Episode Date: January 31, 2025

Our Bachelor Nation OGs Bob Guiney and Andrew Firestone get to know Keith Gordon from The Golden Bachelorette! He reveals what he considers to be the most dramatic break-up ever, we find out what he&r...squo;s looking for in a relationship, and Keith tells us why the show reminded him he has a lot of growing up to do!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings' appearance on The Puzzler with A.J. Jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land? Jeopardy Truthers believe in... I guess they would be Kenspiracy theorists. That's right.
Starting point is 00:00:58 To give you the answers and you still blitzers. The Puzzler. Listen on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Kurt Brown-Oller. And I am Scotty Landis, and we host Bananas, the podcast where we share the weirdest, funniest, real news stories from all around the world.
Starting point is 00:01:48 And sometimes from our guest's personal lives, too. Like when Whitney Cummings recently revealed her origin story on the show. There's no way I don't already have rabies. This is probably just why my personality is like this. I've been surviving rabies for the past 20 years. New episodes of bananas drop every Tuesday in the exactly right network. Listen to bananas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the Almost Famous Podcast with IHart Radio.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Almost Famous The OG's Pebble Beach Edition. We're back. Andrew, we're back, buddy. I mean, we only left for a couple hours, but a lot of things have changed. A lot of things have transpired. A lot of things have happened. Yes. It was a busy night.
Starting point is 00:02:29 It was. So we went lovely dinner. Mission Ranch Inn? What's that place called? That was delicious. Yep. And it was, I thought, lovely company. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:40 We got a chance to sit down with Gary and Guy. Yep. That's from dinner. Yeah. And I would say Toastmaster, you. Well, you know, I was asked in the 11th hour to give a welcome speech. unbeknown's to me it was going to be in front of the entire
Starting point is 00:02:57 entire town of Carmel by the sea I mean I thought that like you know a little preparation ahead do we have any clip of that do we know what happened during that moment or did you just black out
Starting point is 00:03:11 is there recording can you play it back yeah all right guys we'll toast right cheers hello ladies and gentlemen where else are people so welcome
Starting point is 00:03:22 to what we think is either the third or the fourth or according to Andrew the 17th inaugural or I get invited all the annual Pebble Beach I heart event right I will tell you at my first I heart event I was the oldest person at the event everyone was an influencer I thought like they were barely legal it was kind of tragic this one I feel like I'm with my people You're my son. She's joining you guys for Katzai. I'm going to be a meal.
Starting point is 00:03:59 We're going to have the best week. Thank you already to everyone who's been here who's interviewed. Thanks for being open for talking to us for hanging out. We appreciate it. My new co-host, not as good looking as my normal one, but he's going to deal. Cheers, guys. Cheers! Cheers!
Starting point is 00:04:15 Cheers! I mean, just, just, I mean, I don't think you're like the... I mean, I don't think you... anyone likes taking the cheap digs you didn't like the night as good looking i mean with all due respect trista is a is a bomb she's a beautiful beautiful woman incredibly attractive man there's no reason to go and take a cut at a brother like me i took a slice and i'm sorry um you do have stunningly blue eyes crisp cutting blue eyes so tomorrow night's toast yeah you're gonna be a big one you're gonna crush it well i can't go uh any worse than i did today i said the bar very the best part was there
Starting point is 00:04:48 There was the Kowalski Bart Mitzvah that was happening right behind us. And they were all focused right on what you were saying the whole time. Well, I was also the Briss at another event right across the, in the dessert lounge. And I will say this, you know, it was a busy night for me. I was working a lot of tables. We had some new specials coming out tonight, which I wanted to make sure that everyone was aware of, the soup. And I can't, and you did some break dancing on the way out and the karaoke flow. I did, I did.
Starting point is 00:05:15 But thanks for sharing your gift with us. You know what? Thank you. Thanks for allowing me. Thanks for giving me the stage with which to do so, the platform. I'm a giver. To share, you are a giver, and I love you for it. And I will say this, you are almost as good looking as Trista. And therefore, I shouldn't have said that because that was not nice.
Starting point is 00:05:31 It was not a cheap dig. But luckily, to bring the average up tonight, we've got a new guest in. The K-Train. For the OG After-Hours, Golden Bachelor. After Dark Special. Keith. Keith. Keith, what's your last name, Keith?
Starting point is 00:05:45 Gordon. Keith Gordon. By the way, I'm totally cracking up here because Trista will come in here from her tough, whatever she's doing, and kick all her asses. Oh, without question. Without question, she always does. Yeah. T-bone, we call her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:59 So, KG, you're coming in hot tonight, coming off of, uh, it's late. Yeah, you were at the Yeager Luge there at the, uh, post ranch. There was no, yager luge. There should have been. That would have been like that. Why didn't, why didn't I heart sponsor that? I think it would have been a good thing. Notes, we're keeping notes.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Yeah. And there actually might be some background video of dancing at the bars with Keith. Not being serious with the stars. There's a little dancing at the bars. There was a little dancing at the bars. I like dancing. So you actually took that. Dancing likes you too.
Starting point is 00:06:32 For the way that you're moving, dancing is kind to you. I feel like I'm going to go carry on a knob on this one. And I don't want to see as many lifts on the floor. That's not how we go. I was just out there. There was music. Gary was trying to sing.
Starting point is 00:06:46 The music was flowing. I mean, there's a dance floor. What you have to do out there, you don't leave that thing empty. No, I'm a big boy. I'm a big boy. You fill that dance floor. I fill a dance floor. And if you find somebody else is willing, then you spin them.
Starting point is 00:06:59 You felt that space. So to get it straight here, you were a Purdue boiler maker. Is that correct? Well, you learned that tonight because you suck as a Michigan State Spartan. Oh, same. I wasn't even going to go there. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:12 I don't remember the last time. By the way, I'm going to go, I was a fight out from Purdue. I just want to shout out to my bros. There you go. But yeah, Purdue totally. You love it. I don't remember the last time Purdue finished in the top 20 of the big time. In football, we're nothing.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I will give you that. But I always go to basketball and people are like basketball. Well, I still got to go to Michigan State for basketball. Come on. No, we rock. No, we, but we're killing you in basketball this year, in the last few years. We have got big maple now on Memphis, but we're still killing it right now. Football.
Starting point is 00:07:47 I know your badminton squad is incredibly tough right now, from what I understand. And I'll tell you the thing right now, what the basher crowd does not care about is football or basketball. Or badmint. What they do care about is the purpose of being here this week. That's right. Is to go and reconnect with some of your old school buddies from the show. Loving it. Which was really fun to watch you guys tonight, like all hanging out and like connecting again.
Starting point is 00:08:13 It's so easy. You can tell. You guys are like really good friends. No, it's so, actually, I didn't know C.K. was going to be here this week. And also then he called me. He was like, dude, where are you? I was going to pick up Gary from the airport. And he was like, C.K. called me.
Starting point is 00:08:25 He's like, dude, my car's too small. I'm like, dude, I can, Gary's a big boy. I'm like, there's two of us. And then it's like, well, no guys here. So there's no way I'm picking up anybody. But it doesn't matter who it is. I guarantee you, our season was. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I hate to use the word, magical. God, you know, now Chalk's going to go, like, hit me or something. But no, it was, we're such good bros out on there. I mean, Pascal, Jordan, Mark, C.K., Gary, Chalk, Greg. I mean, I'll go, I, Charles, let me keep going now, Bob. We talk all the time. We talk text, I should say, we text three. four times a week everybody knows what everybody's doing at any single moment that's nice so where do they
Starting point is 00:09:21 like how how how do the show find you i mean i'm pretty sure that you found them or or you're like a bright shining light because you have you have a magnetic personality yeah and like like you're so fun to be i've only met you tonight but like you're obviously like a big personality a very genuine and fun thank you personal but like how how did you connect with the show i've been watching the show for by the way, I don't know everything, but I've been watching the show for 20 years. Like Trista, when we might talk about, she is Trista Ryan. That was the season. Sorry, Bob, I don't remember you.
Starting point is 00:09:58 But no, I remember them. I remember there was a sunset going on. They were on a hill talking. He's the fireman from Denver or whatever. I mean, I just remember everything about, and it was, and that locked me into the show. So how did I get on it? So now I'm watching it over the seasons and what? whatever. And November of whatever, what was that, 20, 23. I was watching Gary's season. He was the
Starting point is 00:10:21 golden bachelor. And I said, F it. And, you know, I'd have been a couple bottles wine in probably popped another one. And I just started, like, my daughter was sitting next to me. I'm like, help me out filling this out. And, uh, how old is your daughter? She was 23 at the time. Okay, perfect. And so I'm going like, help me figure this out. And then I'm like, she was telling me what to answer. I'm like, yeah, no, you're out of here. I'm going to do it myself. Yeah. I just did paragraph, paragraph.
Starting point is 00:10:48 But I think I was the only guy who actually did it on my own. Yeah. Everybody else had somebody else, or maybe they're just saying that they did. But I'll admit it. I admit it. Were you motivated because you watched Jones season and you knew the franchise and everything? But you were like, okay, I feel like I could, if she's going to be the Bacheloret, I think I could do this. I needed something different my life, dating differently, whatever.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I just need to change things up. I mean, I'm not. a big app guy or whatever that at dating. I just said, do something different in your life. Right. And so I did it. And here I ain't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Sitting in a freaking talking to you guys. I don't know. No, it was just, yeah, it was just chill. And I did, but I'm so, so happy I did it. The guys that I met, it was an experience of, how do I always say, we all talk, it was therapy. Yeah. We all grew. We all learned about ourselves. We grew up. Here we are, six-year-old dudes, and we're still growing up. Yeah. And learning about ourselves and how we interact with people, date, guys, whatever. Yeah. It was a good time. Yeah. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:12:02 So there's always something positive, I think, that comes out of the show if you've had an, like, authentic experience. I agree. So what, aside from learning about yourself, is there, what's the positive thing that came out of the show for you. I'll go a couple of different positive things. One is, it is a learning about yourself, but the biggest positive thing is I got a big personality and I always hide my heart and
Starting point is 00:12:26 love behind it. I shield myself behind this personality. And talking to these guys on the show, God, I hate using the V word, vulnerability, whatever. But that's what we did. And I decided, you know, it's okay to be me
Starting point is 00:12:42 and still have love and show it and show sensitivity. I was talking to one of the guys tonight, and it was, and you talk about dating, it's okay, don't laugh at the sensitive moment when that woman you're dating or when she has a sensitive moment or a serious moment. Don't laugh it off or make a bigger joke about it. Understand it.
Starting point is 00:13:06 I'm a sensitive guy. And so let her know that I actually understand what she's saying instead of trying to make something to lie. Make light of it. Yeah. And I think that's a big thing. And then the second thing is, I've always had a big bro crew. I mean, I've got my fraternity brothers.
Starting point is 00:13:22 We just had a 40th reunion, but whatever. And the one thing I learned, though, is a lot of these guys didn't have bros. They dated more than I did. They were always on apps and doing whatever. And I didn't do that. But I'm okay with that. But I'm so happy to have a nice. new bro crew. And it's different. It's different than the ones you had that you were from college
Starting point is 00:13:46 or the couple three guys that you have now in your older days. This is a group that we've gone through similar experiences now. And it's about love and sensitivity and just, you know, the whole emotional experience of, I don't think people get it. You watch it on TV and you just think it's about trying to meet up and date and end up with this person. There's an emotional experience that happens while you're going through this. Do you like her? And be here for when they say be here for the right reasons, you may not know, you may know that you're not going to end up with her, but you're still growing and are there for the right reasons. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:40 professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.
Starting point is 00:15:18 So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs
Starting point is 00:15:54 that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?
Starting point is 00:16:43 I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A foot washed up a shoe with some bones. it. They had no idea who it was. Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that not a whole lot was salvageable. These are the coldest of cold cases, but everything is about to
Starting point is 00:17:45 change. Every case that is a cold case that has DNA. Right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime. A small lab in Texas is cracking the code on DNA. Using new scientific tools, they're finding clues in evidence so tiny
Starting point is 00:18:01 you might just miss it. ever thought he was going to get caught. And I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha. On America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors, and you'll meet the team behind the scenes at Authrum, the Houston Lab that takes on the most hopeless cases to finally solve the unsolvable. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. for you being a fan for 20 years was it after full circle now you're on the show right you've watched it for 20 years now you're on the show was it what you expected it to be or was it was it a lot different yeah so I thought there'd be a lot more scripting I thought there'd be a fan you know you get the producer picks yeah biggest questions I get coming back are was there a producer pick who got to go on right did they tell you what to say did they do that I want to tell them no no it is you get to say what you want to say yeah sure some of the edits are going to be a little different
Starting point is 00:19:10 or you know oh i said this you know you hear it in any sports context or whatever but in general 99 it's what you see is what you get i'm you know for all the people i tell them i go there are no producer picks you can pick one or two and you pick a friend you know joan had several people to pick from maybe on i don't know what episodes but she has several people to pick from okay i know i'm i'm not going to take these two people but i'm going to take the one that at least i'm a friend with yeah so that's not a producer pick that's just her picking a friend and going you know you know i just want to be around you you're comforting to me you're i'm feel good so right now we're seeing this keith 2.0 released out of the show so now my buddies would say this
Starting point is 00:20:01 might be 0.5. Keith, 2.5 then. I'm going to add two. I'm going to add two to that. So what's life like now afterwards? I mean, after going through it and having probably learned something about yourself, little confidence in like,
Starting point is 00:20:15 so what's life like? There's a different confidence in life. It's not about, so I think I'm dating the same. But I have a different, criteria sounds so, you know, like I've got zeros and ones.
Starting point is 00:20:31 expectation yeah but but i now know i i can see red flags i can just go you know what i like you but maybe you know we can be friends but i'm going to move on to something else and i'm just more focused i think in dating more than anything it's not about quantity at all it's about you by the way your dms blow up on this freaking thing it's Oh, my God. We talked about it today. I've talked about it since the day. Again, as I told you, we talk about everything.
Starting point is 00:21:05 All the guys do. A lot of guys already have new girlfriends and doing everything, but I don't, but it's... Are you not looking for a girlfriend? I am. I'm looking for the, I'm looking for, we talked about, I'm looking, I'm looking for a partner in life. Right now. Okay, so let's put real life away, celebrity crush. like margot rabbi
Starting point is 00:21:28 was that too quick you want to ask that again yeah it's pretty yeah she's smoking you know of Wall Street God come on but you are you are open to dating
Starting point is 00:21:43 you are Margo Robbie yeah you are but you are in but you're looking and probably know better what you're looking for than you had pregnant
Starting point is 00:21:53 that's the one thing I know better what I'm looking for for more than anything that's i think that's the key to um let me ask you this question so if you meet if you meet someone you guys seem to be hitting it off and she actually does recognize you from the show is that a turn on or is that a turn off neither i by the way it's probably initially just an ego thing i it's totally a turn on for sure it's an ego thing but i automatically now i because of the show and everything. I just know. I'm learning. God, 62 years old and I'm still learning how to grow up. Sure. Hey, this is to my three daughters. I'm still growing up. I mean, it's like, yeah, it's,
Starting point is 00:22:36 yeah, I'm still growing up with it. But I know what I want. And I want somebody to want me as much as I want them. At the end of the day, that's what you, I think. There's not a person in this room that doesn't agree with that statement yeah you can chase all day you chase or they chase you and you know just be honest up front that's the other thing i've learned is be more honest up front yeah and tell them flaws and all right it's good to get it out there we were laughing about that tonight actually oh god you're watching me talk to canyon and you're like you're not worried i'm like i'm not worried no i love that so by the way your interaction with her is similar to what i think i would like with somebody i always love the fact that you can with your partner you can joke yeah but there's a
Starting point is 00:23:30 realness behind it i hope you understand what that means i i told you do i don't know you dating no no he's my dating i've been married for i don't know i i forget okay great no yeah yeah yeah so his wife is spectacular i mean i mean meet her tonight so i don't know she's no she couldn't make it but she and can you get along great and they're very very like she's i mean you talk about like watching a couple interact, the two of them are magic. It really is. Yeah. Yeah. Or like Lauren Hardy. I thought that was us. Really? Is he similar? Is it too? But I want somebody that I can joke with, but also be serious with. Like when the serious moments happen, you want to be serious with it. But I also, there are certain times where I just want to
Starting point is 00:24:15 have fun. Yeah. And by the way, there are going to be times where she wants to have fun and I don't, But I have to realize at the moment. I honestly cannot imagine a time. I've known you for six hours that you don't want to have fun. Yeah. You seem like a very... I can't imagine you being the not fun guy. No, there are times where I need to be serious.
Starting point is 00:24:37 But you're seeing the fun me. But yeah, I do have a serious side. Yeah. A sensitive side. Can I tell you this? A serious sight. I have a sensitive sight. By the way, there's...
Starting point is 00:24:48 It's not that I have attention to decays. detail, but I love detail. There's certain things in life that I like, that I need somebody to bring into my life to focus me to do it. And I'm okay with that. And I'm going to be scolded like a little kid probably. But it's, it's not that I'm immature. I just know what I need.
Starting point is 00:25:09 And there's going to be somebody with a personality that has that in them. And then on the other side, we're just going to go have fun and experience life. It's not about traveling all over the world. I would love to do that. But it's about what about your staycation? Why don't we just go into the city like San Francisco and just do a day thing and spend the night? Why don't we just go down the coast to, you know, Pizmo or whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Avala Beach. Detroit? Detroit's nice? No, no, not real. But anyway, I miss that way. You said San Francisco, like, oh, that's right. He's the Niners guy. Yeah, dude, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Well, Keith, thank you for sure. By the way, I did root for the Lions. Thank you, buddy. No, because I wanted, and I couldn't believe that the Washington, or whatever their name is. The commanders now, yeah. The football team, whatever, that they beat them. But this was your year.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Seriously, you're going to lose some coaches. Yeah, we already lost them. Yeah, yeah, office and defense coordinator. But, yeah. Yeah, I know you're closed up. Who's your team? Niners. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Thank you. God, you're a great guy. You're the best host here ever. Isn't he? All right. You watched for 20 years. Let's go through it real quick. Most dramatic breakup moment ever.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Most dramatic breakup. You know, it's not a breakup. Can I go with this? I love it when Colton was on that island or whatever and she bolted or he traced after and he had to jump the fence. Oh, yeah. I don't think that's a breakup. Hang on, breakup.
Starting point is 00:26:40 But that was a really good one. That was a good one. That was, by the way, that was good drama. That was very good drama. And he scaled that fence on nobody's business. By the way, like nobody's business. They're a kangaroo. I mean, honest guy, it was crazy.
Starting point is 00:26:52 No, and then he ran forever and the cameras couldn't keep up. That was actually pretty cool, too. Yeah, lightning speed. All right, keep going. I was thinking Jake Pavelka and Vienna, Gerardi. Do you remember that one? Oh, Jake. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:27:03 See, you'd use last names, and I don't remember last name. Jake in Vienna. Okay. When they did the whole special about the breakup, too. Yeah. That was, by the way, honestly, because I used it on one of my last ones, but this whole last season with Jan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Yeah. And that this whole last season with hers just sucked. I didn't like it at all. It was so I hope she's happy today is what I'm saying. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast.
Starting point is 00:27:42 So we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor. a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we
Starting point is 00:28:12 find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the Explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. A foot washed up a shoe with some bones in it. They had no idea who it was. Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that not a whole lot was salvageable. These are the coldest of cold cases, but everything is about to change. Every case that is a cold case that has DNA right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime. A small lab in Texas is cracking the code on DNA. Using new scientific tools, they're finding clues in evidence so tiny you might just miss it.
Starting point is 00:28:55 He never thought he was going to get caught, and I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha. On America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors, and you'll meet the team behind the scenes at Othrum, the Houston Lab that takes on the most hopeless cases, to finally solve the unsolvable. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. From a very rural background myself, my dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like...
Starting point is 00:29:31 What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are you. short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training.
Starting point is 00:30:50 These programs aimed to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. nobody tells you anything listen to shock incarceration on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts you get your podcasts how about uh most romantic moment that you remember watching the show i most have to go to bachelor in paradise for that one probably um so you watched the whole thing yeah uh john paul god what was he dude dude that's a dude that's a dude
Starting point is 00:31:43 I was a big John Paul fan, by the way. Was this a blonde guy, big blonde guy? J.P.J. Yeah, I remember that, dude. But no, who was the, who's the guy that was a, was that John Paul? There was the scooped guy who were guy on the, that wasn't John Paul. That was the other guy. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Yeah, look, but, um, most romantic. Ooh. You know, I'm even going to go back to Trista's wedding. That goes way back. Because I never thought this franchise 20 years ago could, like here we are 20 years later. Yeah. I thought this was the most stupid thing.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Oh, yeah. Yeah. When they asked me to be The Bachelor, I swear to God, I said, I'm like, well, this is the end of it for you guys. Thank you. It's been nice knowing you all. You know, I'm going, Mike. Oh, you know what?
Starting point is 00:32:34 One of the most, Mike, when he was the older guy, went to Bachelor in Paradise, and they brought, there was a blonde gal that came back. They were together for a while. He had the little kid, and they went back to Ohio. But the most romantic to me is Michael. Yeah, Michael A. Oh, so Michael A came back to Batcham Paradise, and I was like, why were they bringing
Starting point is 00:32:57 this old dude back? And he ended up with this guy, and they lasted for a while. They're not together anymore, but that to me was, they were out and there was water, and they just were talking, and it was nice. How about that? That's beautiful. That's very touching. Any of your favorite moments
Starting point is 00:33:17 you want to run by them? I mean, any time... Can I throw some out? Can I throw some out? So my most memorable moment that related to something else in the past, I should have said it, but it was my fourth episode.
Starting point is 00:33:32 God, when I came back, I told all the guys, I go, I screwed up, I go, I'm leaving tonight, right? It was terrible. They even... I asked her, they never should... They never showed on the show. I asked her on your last meal, on death row, what would your last meal be?
Starting point is 00:33:48 I mean, it was so bad. What did she say? Well, she never, we know, you know, everybody canceled it. And they were like, they were shutting me down at this point. So, wait, why are we, were you, what was going on? I just froze. I froze. I couldn't ask anything.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Final meal. Yeah. What's your final meal? I don't know. I was just to say, let's ask it. I mean, what. I haven't thought about it. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:34:12 You've obviously thought about it. Well, because you asked the question. What was your final meal going to be? He was faced with that until he was adjudicated by his governor. I was given a state. By the way, I actually asked the set. I go, can you put this nice beach thing out of it?
Starting point is 00:34:24 Because our thing was, let's have a beach thing. Let's have charcutory. Oh, so you got this all set up. Oh, I got it all set up. I'm out there. There's wine, charcuttery, little beach blankets, everything. Oh, I am all set. The thing of this is, she's in a gown.
Starting point is 00:34:38 I'm in a suit. And then we're talking. and I just freeze. Oh, I come back in after this, and I tell the guys, I'm like, this is bad. They're like, Keith, you get a rose. It's all good. I'm like, are you sure?
Starting point is 00:34:51 And so it shows. It shows on the episodes. All the guy, and I got the rose. But then it shows, you know, finally shows how many months later. And it showed me getting up like my, I can't even get up. My butt's in the camera.
Starting point is 00:35:05 I'm like, I'm like an 80-year-old man getting it. Wait, didn't you get the first impression rose? Was this the first impression rose? No, this is, this is right before my final, is my final rose ever ago. Yeah. But it's right before the final rose I ever got. But it's, I got up and all the guys called me. Like, I had three guys called me then.
Starting point is 00:35:24 I'd go, dude, it was that bad. And I go, no, it could have been worse. They could have shown me asking her, you're like, what's your final? And she never answered because they, no, we, everything shut down. They're like, we need to go. Cut. All right. Were you?
Starting point is 00:35:38 Okay. So they were just like, let's know this guy. They thought he was in a murderer. Oh, God. Just asking you, because I happen to have a chicken potpan. This could be it. This is your last meal. Hope you say meatloaf because that's what I cooked.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I hope you're eating gluten-free. That is awesome. Celiac? No matter. No, it would have to meet you last meal anyway. I'm out. I really thought I was out that night. And these guys go, no, you're in.
Starting point is 00:36:06 You've been great for like whatever, three episodes, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, and then they see the episodes. I just cracked up that they actually called me. They're like, oh, my God, that was bad. I'm like, no, it was worse. It was worse, it was. You're the victim of good editing, even though it was bad. No, I got good edits on that one.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Well. Well, you know, I watch you tonight at dinner. We're hanging out at dinner, and it was probably the first time that you've been. So Trista, I will preface what I'm going to ask you with this. Trista and I spend a lot of time together and we're at this thing in Tahoe and her son Max is there and Trista goes Max, you know Max is 16 at the time, 17
Starting point is 00:36:44 So this is Mr. Bob Gennie And he's like hey And she goes, he's my ex-boyfriend And Trista's never done that You know, it was super funny And I'm like, oh my God, I was so uncomfortable And Max just is like, what's up? So I ask you this
Starting point is 00:37:00 I mean, how much have you been in company with Joan and Chalk since the show And was tonight like one of the first times? No, it's like second or third time Are you guys in a fight? Why are you guys fighting? Chalk and I are tight. Chalk and I are so tight.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Yeah, you can tell you guys are buddies. Oh, Chalk could kick my ass. Really? He most seem like a pretty tough dude. Dude, did you hug him? Did you hug him? Give him like, just slap him on the arm and go like, hey dude, how you doing? He's solid.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Yeah, he doesn't move. No. You're one punch and I'm down. No, I, but we would never get into a fight. I know. Dude, we, but it's, but by way, great question. Because I always ask my buddies that question. I think, win.
Starting point is 00:37:44 But, no, Joan, we've seen each other maybe two times. But I've seen Chuck, we went to a Chiefs game back in December together, like there were four of us or whatever. And I get, Chuck is just, I mean. Chiefs, you like, you like, you like to go see, like Little League play and stuff. Yeah, exactly. Well, no, I wore my referee. I was, I had my referee jersey.
Starting point is 00:38:05 So it was a home jersey. All right. So let's let's be honest. You said from your memory of the show, we've been on, we've been honest. We've been honest. We've been honest.
Starting point is 00:38:13 From your memory of the show, uh, you didn't remember me at all. No, I didn't. I didn't. You didn't like him at all. No,
Starting point is 00:38:19 I didn't. So now in, uh, in the course of the evening, uh, you come through the end of the night. Sorry. And you're,
Starting point is 00:38:25 I really mean, you're at, I just remember. I just didn't like. Anyway, it might have been the women. I don't know. You don't have to be this honest.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Yeah. I'm just so happy that I'm not even rememberable enough than not like me. You guys gave me truth serum all night long. I guess. Yeah. So here we go. Now you're,
Starting point is 00:38:43 you know, you're finally sitting here in front of two of your least favorite patchers of all time. I mean, Juan Pablo's got us beat. No, pilot Pete. Oh,
Starting point is 00:38:51 no, hang on. Nick, hey, Nick, I love you. No. No, Nick always came on. It's like,
Starting point is 00:38:58 Nick, get off the freaking show. Sorry. So you think he was on it too much? Yeah, he was way on it too much. Oh, all right. No, and by the way, he's done well, and I love it. I've met him, and he's got a great wife.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Oh, his wife's lovely. Lovely. Yeah, really nice. What I like is you said, his wife's lovely. Well, no, I don't know him. I've only met him the one time. He seems nice. But I was just when he, I just remember me coming on.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Was it a Caitlin show? He goes, no, I really like her. I've been DMing her and I want to come on the show. And he walks in and all the dudes are just, look at him like dude just leave why are you even here yeah he's like the cockroach of television yeah there you go there you go there you go well uh i was going to ask uh after having met us now which one do you uh hate the most and and it's it's okay i mean i'm sure it's you can say me it's fine no i mean actually how about this how about this you you still hate him the most but
Starting point is 00:39:51 you still don't remember me well i don't remember you bob so don't go ahead hey man thanks for coming on the show we appreciate it hope you remember the show show. And, you know, thanks for joining us on Almost Famous The OGs. And thanks for being a part of our Pebble Beach weekend. I love it, man. Hopefully it's the first of May. Thank you. Thank you for having me. I really mean, I'm just rambling on here. And I just hope you had a guys had a good time and tonight and everything. I mean, we've been to funerals where you've had really good times. So that's not saying. Are you like funeral crashes? You and Will Ferrell. It's a new thing. You can't do wedding crashes. That's how we landed on the bachelor. We were
Starting point is 00:40:28 doing the funeral circuit and we just decided to come this way. Have you? Have you? Have you? Are you? He's ever done a wedding Christ? Oh, yeah, always. I'm big time. Been there. I take over the mic stand. I just start rolling. You've actually done that?
Starting point is 00:40:39 I just roll in. I just get dessert and dance on the dance floor and have a good time. I take it over. I don't stop believing. You hear my toast. You see, I'm ready. You should have the toast tomorrow night so you can actually. He's a toastmaster supreme.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Oh, dude. Yeah, he's the bad. I'm going to mind an iambic pentameter. What? What's a good? Aikou. What's it called? I was going to say that.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Iambic pentameter. Those are two big words for me. How many, That's had like too many syllables for me. I'm going to Google it when I go home tonight. It's going to be nice. He does a word scramble. I do a pentameter.
Starting point is 00:41:10 And then we're going to do a wordle at the end with all of them. That's what I'm just going to say. And then we get to do wordle. Oh, it's good. Yeah. Did you actually see the wordle that would happen in December time frame? It was chalk. Like CHOC?
Starting point is 00:41:21 Yeah. C-H-O-C. It was the wildest thing. I don't do it that much. And somebody posted, they go, got on the first one. And it was chalk. So I went back and did it. And it was Chalk that day.
Starting point is 00:41:31 And I'm like, how does Chalk get to be a whirdle? When does Keith? Hey, Whirl, Keith, K-E-I-T-H. That's when you know you've made it right there. Juan Pablo was also a wordal once, I believe. Yes. Oh, there you go. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:41:43 So wasn't Andrew, wasn't Bob. See, I just rambled. How are you going to wrap this up? I don't know. We are all over the place. Thank you for joining us, buddy. It's been a pleasure. We appreciate it.
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Starting point is 00:43:11 What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Listen to shock incarceration on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Kurt Brown-Oller. And I am Scotty Landis, and we host Bananas, the podcast where we share the weirdest, funniest, real news stories from all around the world. And sometimes from our guest personal lives, too.
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