The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous In Depth: Caelynn Miller-Keyes Part 2

Episode Date: November 29, 2022

Ashley sits down with a newly engaged Caelynn Miller-Keyes for an IN DEPTH conversation about her relationship with Dean, their future together, and how exactly he proposed when he lost the ring!  Caelynn doesn't sugarcoat anything when she tells us about her miles-long engagement hike and why her interest in crime might become your new favorite podcast. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. It's Ashley, and I am the solo host today with my guest, Ken. Halen Miller Keys. Welcome. Thanks for being here always. You're such a good constant in our lives. Well, thanks for having me again. Well, we haven't talked to you since you and Dean got engaged. I know that you've given specifics of the engagement on Dean and Jared's podcast, Help by Sucka Dating, which is too ironic that the two of them are now in very committed relationships, but they still suck at dating. And let me tell you, Jared does suck at dating because we barely go on dating.

and he's um i don't remember the last time he did anything romantic for me now i'm gonna this is how i'm starting it off um he used to be so romantic and that's how like i guess life goes but how has dean been romantically since you guys got together to now had there be any has has there been any shifts has he been romantic yeah I think he's more romantic than me, which I wasn't expecting. But I'm sorry, if you can hear that. That's his motorcycle. He's taking off.

He, yeah, so start of the relationship, I feel like I was like more, not more into it, but like more romantic, I guess is just the best way to put it. And then slowly he became more open and more vulnerable with his feelings and everything. And now he's suddenly the more romantic one. Oh, that's so cute. What was the last romantic thing he did? besides proposed to you? Because we'll get into that very soon. The last romantic thing. Well, at Thanksgiving, we did, like, what are you thankful for?

Yeah. And then he just said the sweet thing about how he is excited to marry me and spend the rest of my life with me. So that was sweet. I don't know, like, romantic gesture-wise what he's done, though. Yeah. See, Jared says romantic thing. He says, like, kind, loving things like that all the time. He's really good with words of affirmation. But, like, I'm like, when was the last time you just did something because, you know, just surprise me with flowers. I don't know. I know. Dean does not understand flowers and I think he's gotten me flowers once in three and a half years. They're so nice. What would you, what would be your ideal like romantic gesture gift from him? Actually, he just bought me this five foot tall gnome, which I'm like obsessed with holiday gnomes.

So I'm looking at it right now. Like, he does little things like that where he'll surprise me with gifts, but I don't think he likes flowers. Like, flowers will be nice to come home to every once in a while. I get, I get how guys think about flowers, though. You know, they think they die and, you know, what's the point? I think the gnome is actually way more romantic because it's very personal, a five-foot gnome.

I just let that, if that's romantic, then my gesture was romantic as well. We were at Home Depot looking for fake Christmas. trees, and Jared saw a nine-foot Grinch, a blow-up one. And he has this thing where he loves cheesy holiday decor for outside. It's like, that's what his dad was into, like, plastic things and blow-up things. And I'm like, this is so embarrassing, no. But this was so, like, I was so, like, a reverent that I was just like, okay, yeah, you, I see you eyeballing that. Get it. Satisfy your little your Christmas elf self and do it. So I'm sure it'll be blown up in the front yard later this week. I'll get a good laugh out of it. That's awesome. Anyway, we could talk more about this

later when we're talking about holiday traditions because we're going to do a little bonus podcast about our holiday traditions and favorite things. So right now I want to dig a little bit deeper and, of course, into the engagement. So my thought is that you guys, this like wasn't a surprise to it at all. Am I wrong? It was. I always thought he was proposing in Kauai, and then he lost the engagement ring. So then I was like, I guess he's not proposing.

But I knew he was going to propose by the end of the year. But losing the ring really threw me off. So you thought he was going to wait until he found the ring or got a new one? Yeah, I thought he would wait until he found. it. But like you guys knew that you were going to get engaged and like you knew there were what there was going to be a proposal because you even went and picked out your ring. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's been sitting in our drawer for like four or five months. And you've known this. Yeah, yeah. Did you look at it in the drawer? Yeah, I have like photos of it on my hand. I would try it on

all the time. And it's obviously now been lost. Now for those who are wondering what is this about a lost ring. Well, Dean actually lost the engagement ring that he was in the first place resistant to get for Caitlin because he didn't want to spend money on a ring. You know, Dean, a little hippie-dippy, kind of thought that it was superficial and not worth, not worth it, you know. But you really wanted the ring that you wanted. And he ended up, I don't want to say caving, but seeing your side. Yeah, seeing my side. We had so many conversations about it.

He, like, doesn't understand. And now, like, in the wedding plan aspect, he just doesn't understand how things can cost so much. So he's like, how could a ring cost so much? And now that we're wedding planning, he's like, how could a wedding cost so much? So it's just about, like, easing him into things and, like, starting small and then getting a little bigger.

Was there anything about you guys splitting the cost of the ring? I just wanted to buy it because I knew he, like, didn't want to buy it. And I was like, there's a ring that I want. And I am the breadwinner in the relationship. So why shouldn't I? And I'm wearing the ring every day of my life. So I was like, I don't think it's right that you should pay for it. And then we came to the compromise that I would buy him a truck and he would buy me

engagement ring. Oh, that's sweet. Were they on par price was? Yeah. Well, I put down a down payment. Okay. And so then, yeah, he's paying off the rest. Okay, that's so nice.

So the ring you had been eyeing for a while. When did you actually say like, okay, let's get it? He came home one day. Yeah, I found the ring and then it was purchased by a jeweler. And they were like, all right, you just have to pay for it. So I sent him the link to pay for it. And then he's like, no, I want to buy it from somewhere else. I still, to this day, I have no idea where he got it from.

So then the jeweler had to return it back to where they purchased it from. and he bought it. And then we were on a trip. I think his friend took him to the airport and his friend was like holding on to it for like three weeks or something. Did he have it when he climbed Mount Everest? No.

Okay. No, because it was here because I... Because you're like, I tried it on during that trip. Yep, yep. I actually flew it to New York because I was going to have my jeweler make it into a ring. And I'm standing in front of the door. And Dean's like, no, my meeting's at 9 a.m.

It's 8.59. And I was like, all right, I'm about to drop it off. And he's like, no, take it back. Like, I want to make it. So, like, it was literally about to be, it's still just a loose stone wherever it is. It was about to be made into a ring. And then, oh, wait. How did you put a loose stone on your finger?

I would just, like, rest it. Okay. So you found the stone that you really liked. And then the jeweler was going to put the stone on the setting. But he was insisted on. And one particular, Julia, was he going to get a little bargain? No, I don't know who it was. I don't think he was going to get any sort of discount.

Also, like, we had been talking about this for months. I was like, I'm going to New York. I'm going to drop the ring off. We have been talking about this so much. And then once I'm there, I like flew it safely to New York with me. I was stressed about it the whole time. He's like, never mind. I want to make it.

I'm like, how do you just, we've been talking about this for so long, but that's kind of on par for him. So he wanted to have some things. do it with the design. Did you have the design laid out exactly how you wanted it of a setting? I'm very particular. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But then I was excited about that. I was like, it's super sweet that you want to do it. And I think it's more romantic that way and I'll be surprised when I see it for the first time. Right, right, right. So I get that. Like, that seems like a, like, I like that there's some sort of surprise component to the proposal. But then, but then he goes and he loses the ring. Why was it in a drunk drawer in the kitchen just a loose stone i'm told i'm told via my husband that it was a loose

stone wrapped in a napkin in the kitchen drunk drawer why wasn't this one at least in a little jewelry case let alone like in a safe and some something well that's why i'm confused where he bought it from because that's how he purchased it it was just wrapped in blue tissue paper and still as long as it's not in the garbage somewhere. It's still wrapped in loose tissue paper somewhere. But I guess he came home and it was just sitting on the counter. So I just put it in the drawer. And it sat there for months.

And then I was checking in on it periodically. I would like go to try it on. And then I kept hinting like, if you're going to propose by the end of the year, this takes a while. You should probably go get it made into a ring. And he asked me to stop pressure him to get it made into a ring. So I stopped asking.

And I would still check in on it periodically. I checked one day and it was gone. So I was like, okay, he took it to the jeweler. Turns out that that is when it went missing. Because the next day, he was going to go take it and he was then confused where it was. Caitlin. I can't get over this. And now I'm even more mind-boggled as to how this is all happened.

Because my theory was that you didn't know it was in that drawer. And you saw, like, paper something in the drawer and your drawer. trying to like clean up and then you just toss it out how did it actually just disappear it's so weird and we spent hours and hours we have a camera that points directly like in their kitchen has a perfect view of it we spent hours going through the footage and trying to figure out when he took it because i wouldn't take it's not i have nowhere to put it and no nothing to do with it if i did i would put it right back and we cannot find when he moved it so i don't know i'm not even sure that ring I guess like ring insurance is not even a thing because it wasn't a real ring yet.

So you wouldn't have had it insured. So you just like, thousands of dollars down the toilet. Yeah. And he's been spending all day to day working on his motorcycle. I'm like, why aren't you searching for this ring? He is so nonchalant about it. I'm like, I don't think he cares that it's gone. This is because he doesn't value money.

Yes, seriously. This would frustrate me to no end. If I lose, like, let's just say a set of like $100 headphones, I'll go crazy, you know? Like, I will always scour my brain. Like right now, there's one thing in this house that, oh, yes. Okay, so there is a camera, a baby camera. And when we moved, I thought that the baby camera was in a, like, you know, one of the storage bins in the basement. So I was like, oh, no problem.

When I need that, when his crib goes upstairs, I'll just go scour those bins. And now I can't find them at all. And I think about it almost daily. And it's like a $200 camera, let alone a gemstone. Yeah. Yeah, that's how I am too. That's how most people are, but not dean. So how I, like, did you guys get angry?

Did you get, like, I had a fight about this? Because I would have gotten, yeah, it would have been raging. I'm trying to be very cool about this. I tend to really stress and, like, I, yeah, we can get in fights over my stress. and I've really tried to just be very calm throughout this whole situation. So far I have been, but I'm losing patience just because it's not even like,

I'm happy with the ring that he got, his replacement ring, but I'm like, how do you lose that much money? I'm just confused. Hi, my name is Enya Emanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a question,

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And my mom is a cousin, so, like, it's not, like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family.

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Did you expect it to be when it was after a hike of the century, the hike of the century? Like literally one of a hike that people have died on that experienced hikers have died on. There's apparently a very narrow pathway between like the edge of the mountain and like the ocean, right? Yeah. So explain that whole day to me. Yeah. I, gosh, it was, it ended up being a great day. but like leading up to it, it was miserable.

I was miserable. And a week before I started Googling, like, what should I pack? What should I bring? What should I know? And that is when I started to freak out because people are like, this is not for novice hikers. And I have hiked, but I don't enjoy hiking. I'm not in hiking shape. It's just like a specific type of shape that you need to be in that I am not in.

And I'm very clumsy. Like I feel like my center of gravity is off. So I'm always like tripping. Oh my gosh. And there's like no railing? Nothing. There's nothing. It's just like a drop off and if you fall, you die.

Did you hug like the mountain the entire time just hand palms on the mountain during that section? That's exactly how it was. I was like hugging the wall and skipping across. Yeah, it was terrible. And I was really mean to Dean right before he proposed. And I told him I would never hike with him again for the rest of our lives. I just kept asking, I was like, how could you do this to me? And looking back on it, I'm like, I was so dramatic.

But I really thought I couldn't do it and I could potentially die. How like, okay, so you were mad because once you got to that spot, the spot that he actually got down on one knee is like the end of the hike, right? And it's like the final destination that everybody loves to go and see. So you had finished half the hike because you got there and then you still had to go back, Were you mad at him because you really thought that you were in danger on it? Yeah. We were still about two miles from the beach, I think, two or three miles.

Oh. And so the whole time I was thinking, if I can't even do this now, like I then have to hike out tomorrow, how am I going to do this again? And so that's when I started to panic. I was like, maybe I can do this once, but I can't do it twice. That's where a lot of the anchor came from. Okay. So it's 22-mile hike, right? 11 miles to the beach and 11 miles back.

And it's the same trail. Same. Yeah, you do have to do it exactly all over again. Yes. How, it's interesting that you say that you're not a hiker. You're not a fan of hiking because I feel like that's all Dean has you do on vacation. I know. And all I want to do is like tan or shop or just like lounge around.

And he, everywhere we go, we either have to be rock climbing or hiking. Do you guys compromise on that? that? Yeah. I feel like we hike maybe once every trip and then we do everything I want to do for the rest of the trip. All right. Well, that's good. Okay, so he gets down on one knee by doing something really cool. Can you explain how he got it all on camera? Yeah, so he set up his tripod and we always take, that's the only way we get photos together is if we set it up on our tripod and just have it auto shoot. So that wasn't, like I wasn't suspecting anything. And then he walks over and we're like taking photos and kissing and doing like how we normally take photos very romantic and then he was like

i saw this ticot because he was filming on his phone too and he was like let's stand back to back and then we'll spin and face each other so we did that two or three times and then he pulled out the ring and got down a winning he pulled out the ring oh yeah he got a he got it's not fake ring it's real ring but he got the day before we left he went to a jeweler and then picked this one out Oh, that's so cute. So you do have something. Oh, I love that. Oh, yay. That's so cool. And that's why I'm like, this is fine. Like, I don't care. But I just can't believe that that much money is lost. I know.

You'll get it. You'll find a way. I'm surprised that are there. Are there jewelers that I've reached out and said that they'd like to do an exchange for you on social media for a new ring? No, none. Really? After all these stories. I think that somebody would have dollar signs in their eyes. Someone, please. But I think so I'm just, I'm going to get a moistenate ring. Is that the lab grown? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. That just seems like such a great option these days. I know. And I wish I knew that beforehand because I never would have bought and deemed that truck because seriously, the Moistenight Ring, I think is in the same carrot that he got is about two or three grand. Oh, really? Yes.

And it looks the same. There's going to be, I'm going to say that like engagement's going forward. They're going to have to be like at least 50% those. I know that like it's on a totally new thing, but I've been hearing about it so much lately. And these rings are gorgeous. They're the, they are diamonds. They're just not mine diamonds, which is great for, you know, the fact that a lot of diamonds, We don't know how they got on our fingers.

You know what I mean? Right, right, for sure. And I wish I would have known this before, too, because everyone talks about how expensive wedding planning is and, like, weddings aren't general. And now I spent that much money on a truck, which I could have put towards a wedding, but it's okay. Yeah.

Well, I'm sure he loves his truck. He does. Yeah. You guys are going to change your last name when you do get married to Bell, which is Dean's mom's last name. How did you come up with that idea? Dean came up with it I think a year or two ago

we were with his family and I think he mentioned it to me first and then he brought it up to his brother he was about to get married his brother loved the idea so now their bells his other brother got married this past summer and they're also bells

so we're the last ones no way that's so cool that's really sweet that's a really sweet dedication to his mom so you have obviously started wedding planning because you've been talking about how expensive it is, and it is. It is very, very expensive.

It's crazy. And it's the little things, the little details that will get you. Like audio, if you, like, choose a wedding venue that's not an act, like a traditional wedding venue, you'll need to pay for audio. You'll need to pay for lighting. All these things that you don't really think of. And those are, like, in the thousands. It's so crazy.

So what are you guys planning? Like, what kind of wedding? I can only imagine Dean getting it. married outside. Yeah, yeah. It'll be outside in Aspen, which is he decided he wanted to get married in Aspen. We were going to elope in Italy, but then he decided we want, or I guess we came to the decision together. We want all our friends there. But Aspen is like one of the most expensive places to have a wedding. I've heard. And yeah, I don't know. It's so stressful. And there's one point I started getting quotes because everyone talks about it, but there's no real transparency with

it, they just say it's expensive. And that's it. And so then I started getting hit with numbers and I got really overwhelmed. And then I decided I didn't want to get married anymore. But you do. So wait, why not elope? Like, you just said when you got hit with numbers, you didn't want to elope. Why can't you do something like with a small amount of friends and a lope? Like I feel like an elopement can also be like a mini wedding. Yeah, the problem is we're planning our engagement party right now. And that, uh, I booked the venue. The max is 40 people. And already I'm like, we're going to hurt so many people's feelings just for the engagement party. Yeah. And that's because Dean has 80 friends that he needs to invite. Yeah. I don't know. It's stressful. He is a social

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starting with your local credit union, shopping around online, looking for some online lenders because they tend to have fewer fees and be more affordable. Listen, I am not here to judge. It is so expensive in these streets. I 100% can see how in just a few months you can have this much credit card debt

when it weighs on you. It's really easy to just like stick your head in the sand. It's nice and dark in the sand. Even if it's scary, it's not going to go away just because you're avoiding it. And in fact, it may get even worse. For more judgment-free money advice, listen to Brown Ambition on the IHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. You guys had like these rumors surrounding you that you had a wedding in Europe years ago or like some form of commitment ceremony. Is that true? Because now that the engagement has been such a big thing, it feels like you guys really weren't married. No, we never were.

Deidre just likes to say things and stir the pot. And that's all that was. He got you along with it too. You were all coy. I know because I never wanted to ruin his little thing. So I was always like, yeah, maybe. You guys are really good actors. I was convinced.

I was like, yeah, I think they're married. It's just not legal. It's like a committed thing, you know, like they're together for life. And there was like some shaman situation. Jane would never do that. It's going to be hard to get him to show up to the wedding. He would never do like a commitment ceremony. He wouldn't?

I don't think so. I could never see him doing that. But I can't see him signing legal documents. I know. But what's great is that he has two older brothers and an older sister. Everyone's married except for him. So, like, once he sees his older siblings doing things, then he's like, okay, I could do it too. All right.

Well, before we let you go, we have got to talk about your new podcast. So you love crime. So you have a new podcast with IHeartRadio. It's called True Crime Reality, in which you interview reality about crimes that they've gone through. I was able to listen to the first episode like in person when Ben Higgins discussed his hilarious encounter with cocaine in Miami as a teenager. And it's all caught on like the show Cops or is it Cops? It's something like that. And he has the most like non-Bed Higgins sign off. You have to listen just for the quote that you can somehow find on the internet out there of Ben Higgins,

Ben Higgins saying something that is so not Ben Higgins. But anyway, Kaelan, it's your podcast. Explain how it's handled and some of your special guests so far. Yeah, so Ben Higgins was the very first guest and it couldn't have been better because, like Ashley said, it was just such a non-Benz story. And so there are like some funny crime stories, but then there are also serious stories. we covered a murder and this week we covered Graham Bun came on and we talked about the Vegas shooting. So yeah, it's like lighthearted sometimes and heavier other times. And I think this week was amazing. This is the first time Graham has ever talked about being in the Vegas shooting.

He was on stage when it happened. It was on stage. Yeah. He was like side stage. So he was on stage but standing just to the side when it all started and he just like really went into detail, talked about how he escaped and then he came back to try and find his friend and really, really, really heartbreaking. And it's, it's been interesting to just talk to so many different people. I also talked to Terran Newell from Dirty John who, spoiler, murdered Dirty John. So there's just some crazy stories. I did her podcast. Oh, you did? Yeah. And I had just watched the, you know, the, you know, the docu series, Darry John.

And I was like a little star-struck by her. I was like, oh, my God, this is the same girl with the same, the voice, you know? Right. It's so crazy. Well, speaking of wedding planning, I have a great place to suggest for you, Kaelin, or anyone planning a wedding. It's Tara Nea. We love Teranea. Jared and I have stayed there before.

It's a luxurious oceanfront destination located on 100,000. two acres of Palos Verdes Peninsula just south of Los Angeles. There is panoramic views of the Pacific Ocean and Catalina Island. You can actually see it. It's pretty amazing. They have spacious, comfortable accommodations, including over 300 guest rooms, 31 suites, Ocean View rooms, 20 bungalows, 32 villas. And they also have an award-winning golf course, a full-service spa. and an amazing wedding and event space. So, hey, when it comes to wedding planning, put Teranei on your list, Kailen. All right.

Well, Kailen, you are rocking that as host, and I want everybody to go check it out. It's true crime, reality, and you can get it wherever you get your podcasts. Kaelan, thank you so much for joining us and giving us all those details. Yes, thank you. All right. We'll see you soon. I guess we'll sign off the way that I were supposed to. to sign off. Are you ready? Remember how we do it? Until next time, I've been Ashley. I've been

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