The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous In Depth: Demi Burnett

Episode Date: April 30, 2020

Ben and Ashley go In Depth with Demi Burnett for a raw and vulnerable conversation. Demi tells us about her early life and how her journey with sexuality changed her perspective. We hear about her relationship with her mother after she was released from prison. Demi reveals how she first met Kristian and how are things between them since breaking up. This is an In Depth like you’ve never heard before, because Demi puts it ALL on the table. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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When I usually come up with questions, the amount of questions never flows the way it did for me today. Like, I just had question after question after question after question. So this person is definitely an interesting person. A hundred percent. This is going to be a great sit down. I'm pumped without delaying it any further. She's known from Colton Underwood season of The Bachelor.

She later went on to Bachelor in Paradise, where she was pursued by Derek Path, but ended up getting engaged to Christian Haggerty at the end. Christian and our next guest announced on Instagram Live that they were splitting up on October 31st of 2019. She is so much more than a Bachelor nation contestant. Her life is something that we all are going to learn from the day. welcome to the podcast, Demi Burnett. Hello, thank you for having me. Hello, hello. We are so excited to have you.

I was on your podcast last week, which just started. It's called Big Demi Energy. Yes. Do you want to tell us what that's all about? What are you guys going to be covering over there? Yeah, Big Demi Energy is just about like, you know, shooting the shit, having fun, having fun guests, being confident, you know, it's like the beginning. of it. So I'm still talking about a lot of ideas that we can do. It's pretty intimidating. But

I'm like starting to have a lot of fun with it now, like the more that it keeps going with time and stuff. Awesome. All right. Well, we are going to get everyone to get to know you so well today that they're going to want more and more of you. And they'll have to go to your podcast to get that. So let's start from the very beginning of your life, Demi. Oh, gosh. Can you tell us about growing up in your childhood um yeah so my childhood was interesting i i don't think i've ever really talked about this before um i grew up with the single dad so whenever i was three my dad and my mom got divorced and my mom moved away she like always was i don't know we were in virginia and she moved to like new mexico and my dad always took care of us he was an amazing father whenever i was younger he was working

in the White House and working a full job and taking care of me and my brother and my mom was you know somewhere out there uh we would see her like on holidays and stuff like that and like we loved seeing her so much because like even though she wasn't present for a lot of it whenever we did have time with her she was like such a good mom and like so sweet to us and like you know she's just very motherly and loving um so we really liked spending time with her and it was always so much fun but it was never stable like we never knew when we were going to see her uh we never knew what was going on with her like you know she's messed up in drugs messed up with men uh and my dad always had a really really stable environment for us so we've always been with him and uh he's a rock star

and so that's like early childhood living in stafford virginia and then my dad got remarried to this woman and she had two sons so that's whenever I was about six so I had three brothers and like this awesome new stepmom and it was so funny we would like me and all my brothers would like have this lineup of computers and we would just game all day long together and so they were together for about five years and then whenever I was 11 something happened I don't really know what and they split up then and my dad and my stepmom at the time and that was a pretty big bummer because because, I mean, I had, like, grown so close to these people, you know? And, like, these were my brothers, and, like, all of a sudden they were gone.

And so that was really tough, and it was hard on my dad and my brother, too, and hard on them. So whenever I was 11, we moved from Stafford to Texas to be closer to my dad's family. And we, like, moved to Fort Worth with his mom and his stepdad, and we, I started going to school there. it was it was really hard but like my dad was like really solid rock through all of it you know and like just always made sure we were taking care of and it's just really cool because like I know as a parent you have an obligation to do that but like you know a lot of people fall short and he like never fell short as a dad like we were always his priority and like meanwhile while this

is going on still no idea what's going on with my mom no idea where she is like randomly seeing her. She had a, like, whenever I would go see her, she had this one house in California. It was in Fresno, like right outside of Fresno in the mountains. And she, it was like a huge ranch. It was called like crazy horse ranch. And we had like all these horses and any animal we wanted, like we could have it. So we just had so many animals. And we were always just going around out there and like having a blast with her like new man who ended up being a complete psychopath. But, you know, he had like a good facade of like making us feel like he was awesome but he was really trash um but yeah so that's like i love like even smelling horse poop now because it just like takes me back to like those fun summers

and uh it's a special um so then whenever we were like at my dad's house we moved to this little town called red oak whenever i was in seventh grade and it was probably it was in the beginning like the worst like memories that I have like is like you know middle school you know stuff like that because I had come from this place in Virginia where like everyone was so nice to me I had never like been bullied I'd never had anyone be mean to me and I moved to this red oak town in seventh grade I'm like going through an awkward stage and I like was so bullied these girls were so mean threatening to like kick my ass and like I was 12 years old I had no idea what they were talking about I was like what do you mean you're going to kick my ass

you want to fight me like why it was bizarre and so then i kind of had to like toughen up and like i don't know kind of made me a little hard and you know like i was it was weird because i was just so innocent and then like i was it hurt me so bad and so then i was like okay like i doggy dog world like i've got to figure out how to survive um and girls are just so mean and then you know middle school like got through it then went to high school and it was the same thing um i played volleyball all throughout all of this that was my life and that's like all i ever did my dad was pretty strict on me so like i didn't ever party or drink or anything i just uh went to school made great grades played volleyball went home like it was pretty much all i did i had some time

with friends but oh and then um like my dad was always super super like strict about us going to church so I spent a lot of time going to church like three times a week like Sunday morning Sunday night Wednesday night and so I kind of got like once I graduated high school I was like pretty much over that and I was like I'm not going to go anymore I'm going to like you know I'll see where life takes me and like where I'm drawn to if I want to get back into that stuff but yeah I don't know then I graduated and went to college and since I never partied in high school I partied so hard in college and I was wild, but that's kind of whenever I found myself because in high school I was really, I was friends with everybody and stuff, but I wasn't

confident in myself. And so like I wasn't myself all the time. Like I was just kind of like quiet or like I thought, you know, insecure thinking people didn't want to talk to me or like people didn't want to be friends with me or scared that somebody was going to try to fight me. And so then I went to college and I like got this confidence because I was like you know what I'm a pretty cool person like people like to be around me and if they don't then they don't have to be around me and I just got to like you know make sure like I treat people well if they treat me well and you know it's still something I work on today is like treating people well no matter what and you know sometimes I just take jokes too far but yeah and then after that I feel like I'm rambling

No, I love it. Awesome. Well, and I think this is a good place here too, is you're definitely not rambling. This is what this is. So this is a lot. This whole setup is about just you personally so that everybody can out there kind of connect the dots between, okay, this is the dimmy we saw on television. This is a demmy we've rooted for, but we've only gotten to see a very small piece of her life.

What brought her to this point today? And so to sum up all of that and to also walk us into this next phase of kind of your life, story um as i as i as i'm sitting here listening to you i'm like okay there's so much here to unplug right like i would love to talk to you about your faith now and where that stands i would love to talk to you about the impact that your family has had on you through all these changes i would love to talk about and just say like holy cow dimmy at seventh grade you've gone through all of this like there's got to be a lot there that you've learned and realized so in short this is what i want to ask you to take us in the next phase is if there's three things that people need to know about

you as a human that would help them understand you what would those three things be um one of them would be that i am ultimately pretty dang sensitive and i try to cover that up because in the past whenever i'd shown my emotions like this is kind of in regards to like my ex-stepdad that my mom was with that guy like you know if i would cry about something like he would be so mean to me about it like you know there was just no like sympathy there was no like never felt bad for me or anything never wanted to make me feel better just was like stop crying you're a baby like all this stuff and so it's just kind of like shaming me out of my emotions all the time so like I do have like this hard shell around me but like I am very sensitive um and I I feel things like very very strongly

I just kind of pretend like I don't which you know isn't healthy um Another thing is, is that I pretty much live in my head. I, like, I overthink a lot of things. I'm constantly in my head, and I can misinterpret a situation by overthinking too much about it, but I always will hear you out, and, like, I'm not stubborn on that. Like, I'm willing to change my mind very, like, quickly, and, like, lot of I'm not irrational. Another thing, I'm very, very protective and loyal and stuff, but sometimes that can get to a point where I'm so protective and loyal that it's, and I feel very uncomfortable if I have no

control of our situation or like you know like I have a little bit of like a control thing that I'm very aware of and I have to be like okay like it's okay if you're not in control of like the dinner plans for tonight or something or it's okay that you're not in control of how somebody's making you feel right now and just that's something because I know that that's caused issues in the past with me and like friendships and stuff like that and relationships and it's it's something that like I need like the people in my life to have a little patience with me on it because like I I understand that that's really hard to deal with somebody who can be a little controlling and I don't want to be that way but it's I don't know it's like embedded

in my brain it's like it must be genetic or something I don't know but I think it's I haven't been in control of so many situations in my life that now like it has this obsession with me like wanting to be able to control it now that I like feel like I can. And yeah, it's, it's tough. See, look at me, always in my brain, like overthinking everything, trying to make sense of situations, like trying to figure out the right thing to do or the right way to handle it or like, you know, be self-aware and, yeah, just live in this brain. So, I mean, just to close that thought, Demi, how often, Ashley and I talk about this sometimes, but how often is it that you will be in a situation?

And I think it's funny because the show is obviously the most relatable example for all of us. But how often can you be in a situation and you like say something, do something and you look back and you like have this like guilt or shame or just like you in your own brain questioning like every like I did it last night, right? I went out with some friends. I don't know what. We did a bourbon tasting so I drank a bunch of bourbon and I'm talking. And I'm just talking all night. And I wake up this morning, I'm like, what in the world did I say last night? Like, I got so vulnerable that, like, they're probably scared to death today.

And I say this because of relating it back to the show, how hard was it to watch some of the stuff back? I probably do that, like, on a daily basis. Like, I say something, and I'll just, like, something. Sometimes I also just say the wrong things, but I will say something and I'll walk away from the situation. I'm like, oh, dear God, what did I just say? Like, what did I just do? Like, are they going to interpret that weird? they're going to be mad at me? Like, I do it every day. Watching the show back, there's so many

times where I just cringe and I'm like, oh, I can't even watch it. Like, you know, I'm hard on myself. And whenever, I guess it was so for Bachelor because on The Bachelor, they just kind of had me be funny and stuff like that. I mean, there was some things that, you know, offended some people, but I don't know. Paradise for me was like cringy. I don't know why. I can't even watch it again. All right, Demi, I want to get back into your childhood before we move on to your bachelor experience, but we're going to do that right after this break. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor.

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Demi, what age were you when your mom went to prison? So that's a little unclear for me. You know, parents, like, want to protect you whenever you're a kid and that kind of information. you know like especially me like I was just this super adorable little blonde girl like running around I think the last thing they wanted to tell me was like your mom's going to prison uh so it was sometime whenever I was younger she went for a couple years like I didn't see her for a while and I didn't know why um but yeah so whenever I was under 10 like I really couldn't even tell you how old I was because I didn't even know until after years after it had happened um and then she went back

It was, yeah. So I was 22, I guess, whenever she went in the second time, 21 or 22. And then she got out, you know, whenever I was on the show. And then she went back. She's in prison right now. Oh, no, I'm so sorry. Yeah, it is what it is. But she'll be out in May.

It was just she, like, violated probation or something, failed a drug test or something. Are you comfortable sharing with us why she went to prison the other two times? Um, like, sorry, did you ask me why she went to prison the other two times? Yeah. Yeah, because you can Google it and find out. Um, I'm not exactly sure. It had something to do with like embezzlement fraud and, you know, something to do with that, stealing money from somebody. It's weird, right?

Because when I was prep, just in all transparent, when I was prepping for this podcast, I was like, I'm going to laugh my brains off. talking to you and I think we still will there's a lot of funny things here but the beauty of you is that you're complex and we all are right we're all are complex at some level but like your story right away is like I'm just sitting here I don't know really happy to be talking to you I guess would be the thing like I'm going to learn a lot from you today and I know Ashley is as well um how did this how does having this is going to feel so insensitive but like how does having growing up knowing that your mom is in prison like how does that affect you? as a human.

Yeah, I guess that's the best way to say it. It affected me, like, not having her, like, present and, like, you know, making bad decisions and stuff, like, not having that, like, nurture. It definitely kind of made me, like, a little bit harder and I'm, like, a little bit colder. And also, like, I had to, you know, my dad took care of me so well, like, the best he ever or he or anyone else ever could, but, you know, he had to work, too. So there was a lot of things that, like, I had to do that normally moms would do. And so I did a lot of things for myself.

So, like, now if somebody doesn't do things for themselves, they're like, you know, like they have their mom doing a bunch of stuff for them still. I'm, like, jealous that I didn't have that. And so it makes me a little bitter. And I'm like, you can't do anything yourself. But then I'm like, I'm sorry. I know that I'm just jealous that I never got to experience that. But it, I mean, it definitely, like, caused a lot of, like, mommy issues.

like me and my brother always like joke about it um just because like loving like putting so much love and having so much love for this woman who you like you know you look up to her so much and you just want her to like be around and just like love you back the way you love her and like constantly chasing her and uh it hurt it hurt really really bad and i mean i used to cry about it like every night as a kid but I just now you know I I don't want to ever like you know as an adult you just kind of get more mature about it and it's like I don't want to make my dad feel discredited because you know like I feel so bad I was always crying about my mom to my dad and he's over there doing everything for me and so I don't know because I feel guilty about that so

now I just like sing his prices and you know he's my best little buddy I love that man how was it being raised by a father during your teenage years when it came to dating body changes and all that i definitely just kept it all to myself um i didn't really date that much like i would have like two week long little boyfriends that i would just see in the hallway or something i didn't really date anyone seriously um and honestly i was kind of uh i was not a very good person in high school because I would just they called me heartbreak demi because I would just like talk to a guy for two weeks and then I was like okay I'm over it and then I'm like who's the next one who's the next one and I don't know why I did that but it was cruel um I think I just like was into like the chase and then

once the chase was over I was like okay like next next chase because I mean I mean that's a terrible terrible way to be and I know that and I would never do that now but I think it was just kind of like liking the attention and I knew that I wasn't going to really like hang out with them probably outside of school that much because like you know I my dad probably wouldn't be too cool with it unless he like knew the guy and then I was always doing volleyball stuff and it was kind of just like I liked crushing on people um but I definitely hurt some people along the way and that's I you know I'll have guilt about that forever did you um have a mother figure at all during this high school years. Did your dad ever remarry? Yes. So whenever I was 13, my dad started dating this woman,

Bobby, and she was the best thing that ever happened to us. She's incredible. They're still together and everything. She definitely helped me be like more girly and stuff because I was like a total tomboy because I was just growing up with my dad and my brother and I was like my dad would try his best, you know, but I was, I don't know. I always wanted to like wear my brother's clothes and stuff. Like I was just a total tomboy um and so like she definitely girlied me up and like loves me so so much like it's so cool she just took me in as her own like she fully believes i am her daughter and like she is like my mother like she was my mom ever since i was 13 what did that do for you to have at 13 like to have that woman walk into your life it was awesome like it finally got to have like a motherly figure

and got to have like somebody to like talk to like you know girly stuff with and like uncomfortable conversations i don't want to talk to my dad about you know um it i really needed it and then she has like this amazing family too and all like i love all them they love all me they took us right in as well uh it was very like healing you mentioned playing with boys hearts in high school when did you realize you are interested in possibly men and women um i i kind of like had like whenever i was little like you know whenever you're a young kid and you start playing on the computer and you're looking at things you shouldn't be looking at i was like looking at naked women and i was interested in it and i liked i liked it and uh that's i was probably like fifth grade maybe

started that and but not much and then uh it all started with because one time i went to demi dot com like just went to it and it was like a porn site and I didn't know obviously and it like gave me so many viruses but uh I was just like oh I want to go to my name and then I was like huh that was interesting I didn't mind that um and so then in seventh grade there was like a rumor that went around that because it bullies that I liked girls and everyone was like making fun of me and like what is it called is it called is ostracizing the right word whenever you know sure yeah it works okay um and like you know it was just torture and so I was like no I don't no I don't like whatever and then that kind of just like I don't even know who started that so weird but then that just kind of like went away and I was like okay few like nobody nobody knows about that like it kind of just everyone forgot about it um and then I just kind of like I thought about it a lot but I always thought it was wrong because that's just you know it's a different day and age now back then it was less okay especially like me little church girl like that wouldn't have been chill at the church Now I'm sure it probably is fine, but I was scared, you know, I didn't want to even entertain the thought.

So watched a bunch of girl-on-girl porn through high school and stuff, and then made my first, like, move or, like, acted on it my freshman year of college. And it was funny because it was with a girl. We were in college, but, like, we went to school together one year and whenever we were, like, in sixth grade or something. And I was like, hey, funny seeing you here. What was it like when you first realized it? So, you know, you watched, you know, the videos and you looked the pictures and it was intriguing to you. But when did you realize, like, when did it hit you? Oh, I'm actually into women as well.

I think it was like the very first time I, like, kissed a girl and not like drunk kissed a girl at a party, but like intimately kissed a girl. It, like, I don't know, it was crazy like fireworks in my stomach. I was like, oh my gosh, I loved that. So was that your freshman year? Yeah. Okay. What was your first kiss with a boy? Seventh grade.

Did you have fireworks there? No. Well, no. I did. It was just, I think about like the first, you know, the first time you ever make out? You're like, I've never made out with anyone. Like, I don't know what to do. And I, like, made out with this kid.

And it was just a terrible makeout. And so it was just awkward. But, like, I think that. Honestly, like my first kiss with a boy, I was like three the first time. My like a little three-year-old boyfriend. I like to call my kindergarten kiss my first kiss, too, instead of the 19-year-old kiss. Brutal, 19. You call yourself the queer queen.

You know, you're a queer queen in paradise. Can you tell our audience what the difference between bi, fluid, and queer is? So I call myself a queer queen. And what I mean by like queer is that, like, I know that I'm different. and I know that I'm not the norm. And then sexual fluidity is like you're flowing either way. You know, you are going to change your mind. However you're feeling, like, whatever your desires are,

your sexuality flows with that. It's never like constant or like consistent, like flowing around. And then like gender fluidity is the same concept except you're just fluid and flowing with like whatever gender you're feeling. Like, whatever you're identifying as, like, you know, that day or that, whatever. It's just flowing back and forth and maybe flowing forth for a while and back a little and whatever. It's just fluid. And then bisexual is being attracted to both men and women.

Do you think that was? And you identify as? You know, I don't, I guess like, this is so hard for me because, like, I don't. really know what to identify as i guess you could say bisexual but that doesn't mean that i wouldn't date a trans person because i would you know like or someone who doesn't want to identify as any gender like i would be open to dating anybody if i had a connection with them so that's why i just kind of say queer because i'm like just not the norm like whatever okay so you being queer never came up on colton's season why was that i was embarrassed and ashamed and i didn't want to like weird the girls out or

something you know uh i just like wasn't ready to come out honestly did did anybody know like any of the producers and any anybody yeah uh some of the producers knew um like towards the end of it and then like my closest friends knew like i'm sure i'm sure i told hannah at some point um but i probably like you know just kind of try to do it casually like oh yeah i've dated women before She's like, what, Demi? Your mom got out of prison for the second time while you were filming The Bachelor, and you were all the way in Asia. How did it feel not being able to, would you normally have seen her when she got out of prison? Now that we see that this is like a thing that she's done a couple times, like would you normally go and see her right away?

Or was the phone call kind of like pretty much what you would do? As the like years go on and I get older and older, I definitely have seen her less and less. If the right thing to do would have been to go and see her, you know, it just wasn't convenient for me. And I just was like a little bit selfish about it at this point just because it's like it hurts. Like there's so many emotions like seeing her every time. It's like just so emotional.

And it's just really hard. It's really draining. And so I was in such like a fun place, you know, like. I was coming off The Bachelor, like, you know, my life is completely changing. Like, the show is about to air, and I didn't want to feel those negative feelings. Like, I just wanted to, like, live in what my life it was then, like, and what I, like, you know, done for myself and, like, and just kind of, like, relish in the joy and, like, the excitement and not like be bummed out by this emotional trauma and I guess kind of just like avoiding it though

is really not the right thing to do and it would have taken a lot less out of me out of my life and like myself than like it how do I say that right like it would have cost me less than like the amount I would be giving her like I would be giving her such an amazing thing she would have loved to have seen me that's all she wanted she wants to see me and it i should have like done the right thing and like immediately gone i just chose to be selfish in that moment and i feel guilty about it um but i mean i don't know i try to do what i can i like have little video calls with her now my brother i don't think is talking to her at all which makes me sad because i know she's sad it's just like a lot of emotions to take in there's and i feel them so strong

I feel for her because she's she knows that she's like fucking up and she knows that she's not doing what she's supposed to be doing. She knows that she wasn't there for us, you know, growing up. And she's done a lot of people wrong and I know she has like so much guilt for that and like probably a lot of like self hatred and stuff and depression and I, it's just like taking on all those emotions and like thinking about it even. It's it like, it like, makes you want to cry, it makes me hurt. It's just, it's a lot. Do you take on those emotions personally?

Yeah, but that's kind of why I like avoid thinking about it a lot or like talking about it a lot. Like it's because it does weigh on me like so much. Like I take them in so much and I get so worried about her and I feel for her and like, you know, I just like I don't know what to do to help and. and I, you know, I could be angry and I could, like, you know, blame her and all this stuff, but everybody in her life is angry with her always and hurt by her and disappointed. And, like, she just, I think what she needs for me is just, like, I'm never going to be mad at you. I love you.

And all I'm going to, like, give you is love and forgiveness. Well, speaking of forgiveness, Demi, I would love to talk to you just a few minutes if you're okay with it about your faith and what role that plays in your life now. I think it would be super interesting for me and the listeners. Are you good with that? Yeah. Okay, perfect. Well, hey, let's take a break. When we come back, let's talk to Demi about her faith growing up in a conservative household and where that stands today. We'll be back with Demi Burnett on the Almost Famous In-Depth.

Hi, my name is Enya Humanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes.

Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free iHeartRadio app, search emergency intercom, and listen now. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. From a very rural background myself, my dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago.

I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a... story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now.

Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Super Secret Bestie Club podcast season four is here. And we're locked in. That means more juicy chisement. Terrible love advice. Evil spells to cast on your ex. No, no, no, we're not doing that this season. Oh, well, this season, we're leveling up.

Each episode will feature a special Bestie, and you're not going to want to miss it. Get in here! Today we have a very special guest with us. Our new Super Secret Bestie is The Deva of the People. The Deva of the People. I'm just like text your ex. My theory is that if you need to figure out that the stove is hot, go and touch it. Go and figure it out for yourself.

Okay. That's us. That's us. My name is Curley. And I'm Maya. In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heart breaks, men, and of course, our favorite secrets. Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the Michael Thurra podcast network available on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it?

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Every episode gets real about the why behind these changes and gives you the inspiration and maybe the push to make your next pivot. Listen to these women and more on She Pivots now on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The U.S. Open is here. And on my podcast, Good Game with Sarah Spain, I'm breaking down the players from rising stars to legends chasing history. The predictions will we see a first time winner and the pressure. Billy Jean King says pressure is a privilege, you know. Plus, the stories and events off the court and, of course, the honey deuses, the signature cocktail of the U.S. Open. The U.S. Open has gotten to be a very fancy, wonderfully experiential sporting event.

I mean, listen, their whole aim is to be accessible and inclusive. For all tennis fans, whether you play tennis or not? Tennis is full of compelling stories of late. Have you heard about Icon Venus Williams' recent wild card bids? Or the young Canadian, Victoria Mboko, making a name for herself? How about Naomi Osaka getting back to form? To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain, an IHeart Women's Sports Production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment

on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. We're back with Demi Burnett. Demi, you had mentioned at the very beginning how much of a role of faith and a church community played in your life. And I can relate with that, right? That is something that I hold very dear to my heart. People of the podcasts definitely know that.

They're sick of me talking about it. So I'm not going to get into my own personal beliefs. but I do want to hear from you on what role now church plays in your life knowing that for so much of it it was it was a three day a week thing as you said um yeah so I haven't even been to church since I graduated high school I don't think um and it wasn't it's like it's because I just like don't know and I have this thing where I am like if so I grew up in a baptist church it was they were wonderful people I had great memories church camp you know all that stuff a lot of great friends from there and I I didn't like going just because it was like okay we always have to go to church and you got to be quiet there and it's like boring as a kid and whatever but there was a lot of times where I really really was into it and I like loved going and I like loved like worshiping and like all of this stuff I loved it um it would be like a post summer camp high because like we go to

church camp and it was it was so fun it was amazing and like a bunch and they made it so fun at church camp and so you know you would come back and everyone was like yeah we're like super into this now and like uh i got a lot of really great friendships from it and a lot of you know good life lessons and stuff what i have like what i struggle with getting on board with with church like with picking a religion or picking a faith is because if they're you know because who am I to say this is what's actually the truth this is what is right because there's millions of people that are believe a thousand million percent that their faith is right so like how do I how can I be like no mind's right you know like no this is what happened but at the end of the day too I I want to find some kind

of faith because I know that you know it's not necessarily about like maybe like a law making sense out of all of it and like trying to like scientifically prove how this could be real i think it's more like a good feeling and like you know a good way to like direct your life and like keep you on track and you know and like hold you to a standard and it feels good to like believe in something i mean would you say then because as a baptist if anybody's listening and they they don't know exactly what that means it is more conservative super conservative more fundamental in nature. So they would not be the church that is liberal and thought at all. Baptist would stay more conservative. And I don't say liberal and conservative politically. Like this is more

in terms of like socially. But they do believe in Jesus. So Jesus is at the core of it's a Christian church. So do you miss Jesus? Like what role does Jesus then play in your life today? I think like yeah I miss Jesus like I miss that relationship and like that feeling like you know that there's something out there that like has your back and wants the best for you like no matter what and like unconditionally loves you I think it's really it's sweet and it's comforting I guess like just kind of avoid thinking about it at all because I feel guilty because it's like you know raised my whole whole life fully believing in this like full-fledged 100% no doubts and then doubting as an adult and like just avoiding it. I don't know. It's scary because it's like part of me is like maybe there's nothing out there. Then there's part of me that's like maybe there is and you're betraying them right now and you're going to burn in hell. It's like it's so I'm just like okay I'm not going to think about that I guess and I'll just figure it out along the way and you know maybe one day

like not I don't want anything like bad to happen to me but like you know maybe I'll just like find faith one day or like you know find so you know go go to church with somebody or like learn about another religion and like I feel really drawn to that and you know maybe I'm like oh aha this is it this is what I want to put like all of my energy into and like fully believe this or maybe not like I don't know I really would like to like have a faith and believe in something like wholeheartedly i'm just your story your story is not like uh abnormal right i mean i'm sure there's people out there listening right now going yeah like shaking their heads like this is demi is speaking my life into me right now so i just appreciate you sharing it um it's

interesting to me just to you know to hear kind of how past go different directions both good in their own ways but um thanks for sharing i know it's not always easy to talk about And I'm sure there is some, like, you know, thoughts that come into your head as you're even speaking about it that do make you feel guilty. But I don't ask any of that to make you feel guilty. I'm just in truth. Oh, yeah. No worries. I like that you're pushing me a little out of my comfort zone.

I like it. Speaking of being out of your comfort zone, Colton says in his book that you took him out of his comfort zone and that you, especially that first week or two, was someone that he couldn't really picture development. a romantic relationship with how do you feel looking back on your relationship with colton um i think it's funny i think it's really funny um i really liked pushing him out of his comfort zone because like you know he's so sweet and like gentle and i i don't know i was just having fun with it like i loved making him squirm and be like what are you doing next like what is dimmy going to torture me with tonight um i i was really just having a lot of fun with it and And it did, like, take a serious turn for me.

And that was uncomfortable. But I think it's because you're in that environment. And, like, all you're doing is thinking about Colton Underwood for 24-7. And you've got people telling you, like, you have to, like, you know, you need to show him that you're serious and, like, all this stuff. Like, you need to, you know, make sure he knows how you feel. And, like, I don't know, it's just a lot of, like, in your head. And you're just like, gosh. maybe you're right maybe i maybe i do really like this guy maybe i am falling in love with this guy and then

you get home and you're like yeah i'm not sad at all about him i miss my friends that's how i feel like anyone who's not top four goes back home feeling when you say that it took a turn was that when you had the first phone call with your mom with colton on the phone with you? Yeah, definitely around then. Everything was getting emotional too. And then you kind of start getting insecure because you're like, wow, girls are dwindling down. I've been really confident every week that I'd still be here. And I'm kind of starting to second guess it because I don't know, I don't feel like we're having these really deep meaningful conversations. And so then, you know, those insecurities for me just kind of make me emotional.

and then I start feeling vulnerable and then I start freaking out and yeah then my whole personality disappears and I'm just a wreck were you were you basically told you can't talk to your mom unless Colton put the phone with you um no well maybe we're gonna maybe maybe I was I can't really remember because I was just sad I was like crying because they told me that they um got a hold of her and so I was just like crying and I was just really excited so I don't really remember how the conversation went down and I probably was a little tips a little tipsy so you leave colton he dumps you after you say I love you yep how did that affect you did that affect you more than just a couple days yeah it was a shot to the ego and then the whole world had to watch me get

rejected it was terrible but it it definitely just made me feel rejected ultimately and like the embarrassment of being dumped does not outweigh like the like hurt in my heart of like wow somebody doesn't want me like you know and at that point in my life like I had been in a lot of like short-lived like flings and relationships and things and like where guys ended up not wanting me and just doesn't feel good at all and it um it's embarrassing to watch but it's it's also like still to this day whenever I watch it, I feel emotional. I feel hurt. Like, it's like I can just put myself right back there and feel that pain of like

rejection. Like rejection. I don't know. It's one of the biggest things that hurts me. I, uh, yeah. How much, how do I say this? Demi, we want, again, we started this podcast out. Demi Burnett is somebody that we think of and we think of funny and corky.

And I think back in the day, you, you confronted me on it, but I think I called you like the lovable pest that like was just always like getting into people. And but like you're lovable at the same time I don't know how you do that. That's still beyond me. Um, but what I'm learning right now after hearing this and this is unexpected for me is that like you feel everything. Yeah. Yeah, very intensely. How am, How am I as a fan of you supposed to process your story then that's been a part of your childhood now through the show? If I watch you, and I'm assuming this is how you are in real life, as like this funny, pest, like, friend that you love and that you just went around because you always are doing, you're always down for anything. But yet, if I really got to know you, I would see that you feel everything.

Yeah. What is your question? So how am I supposed to know, like, how am I supposed to process that after seeing your story play out on the show? Like, how am I supposed to process your Bachelor experience and moving into Bachelor in Paradise? Because that was a huge thing for you too, obviously. Seeing one side of you on TV, but knowing behind the scenes, there was a deep, deep hurt and feelings. As a fan, like people that are fans of me, what they can take away from this story. learning all this stuff about me is just learning that people are complex and just because like

you see somebody and you think oh they must have had the best life ever they're so happy they're so funny they're like even kind of like you know a little pesty or whatever uh they could have a whole other side of their life and be like you know sometimes i feel like i'm two different people like I have my deep, vulnerable, emotional, feely side that is a huge part of me. And then I have this side of me that just wants to have fun and make fun of my friends and, you know, just goof around. It's just like people are complex and, like, have some forgiveness and, like, understanding about other people.

Like, don't just assume things about people, get to know people better, like, and give, I don't know, give people a chance. that's what we're doing this this is exactly where we're sitting here this is why i love this so much is getting to know you through this in death it's really cool i like this yeah good we are i am eating up every word you're telling us so now can you tell us about the time that you met christian off the show and how fast did that relationship evolve into a romantic one yeah um so i met christian at catherine agro's house um i was in l-a for something bachelor related and then I um we were just friends like she was really cool then I just I think I

stayed there maybe one night and then I flew home and then I came back the next time and was hanging out with her again and the first night we were hanging out uh we just started making out like by the hot tub and and we just kind of like started spending every time I was in L.A. like I'd spend time with her um and it was just like really easy and really comfortable and like yeah i mean it went went pretty fast but like it wasn't ever it was never um like there was no title on it there was no rule official yeah it wasn't official and i made it clear that like i had plans and like we were like having fun i mean it was definitely emotional like too but but um yeah like she knew what it was and like yeah what do you say to the fans that think that

you should have stayed in pursuit a relationship with her off camera since you were so emotionally involved um i understand that uh i could see why people would say that obviously like i get that side of it i didn't want to leave i wanted to to have my free vacation and like you know not have my phone so like I could focus on our relationship too because it's so much different in the real world and like I don't know I liked being there and I liked having people talking to me about my relationship too like producers and stuff like maybe helping me make sense of things like I had a really great producer and he would just tell me like you're being an and I'd be like okay thank you because like I would try to

justify it if I were in the real world I you know like I would find some way to be like well I'm being an asshole because she's doing this because this is like you know instead of just being like I need to just change the way I'm thinking because I'm being a jerk um so yeah it was nice to like have that help and that guidance through your relationship a lot of fans got angry at bachelor production for bringing Christian into paradise for you they said it was one of those few times where they actually felt that the producers were meddling with a relationship and they felt that that was obvious how do you respond to that i mean they it it's true like i mean they brought her into paradise and they totally like made that happen and so like yeah i'm

sorry like i i don't think like it's not it's hard because like i'm biased on it um like i didn't think that that was that important like that little detail like i thought what was important was like sharing like our relationship and like our love story and stuff like that and uh being able to see like you know i i like being able to see me actually like loving somebody and like wanting to like be with somebody uh like outweighs the minor detail that they did bring in an outsider but i totally get it they're justified in like feeling angry about that like i get it like get it and I apologize for like you know being there but like whatever I mean they were making TV at any cost I guess like you know from my knowledge Ashley Toffammer wrong this is the first time

we've seen a same sex couple on the Bachelor franchise right yeah in the US I think that they've had it in other countries in the US okay how I mean well how did you get to the point Demi to a trailblazer here like how what what when did it click i'm going to be the first and i'm okay with this um well it was really uncomfortable um but like i don't know i was just like i was ready i was ready to talk about it like i didn't do it on the bachelor and there it was like you know hiding it and like having this secrecy was like really getting to me because it was like what if people find out not from me like i want people to know from me first like you know at a mouth i don't want someone to take that away from me because this is like my story and this is my life

so i i'd like been you know seeing christian beforehand and like then we started like filming paradise stuff and i was like well like let me like tell the world about this because like you know it's relevant right now to me like i actually am seeing like a woman right now and stuff so it's like perfect i'm like in the in the vibe of it and everything you know and i'm really ready to like not hide it anymore and yeah and then it just it was the most emotional thing ever like I was so scared I was scared of like what my parents were going to say you know how they were going to respond and then my grandparents and like all this conservative family that I have and that was probably the scariest thing like the world I was like the world will probably be

pretty accepting of it because that's where we're at in this day and age but it's like I don't know about my conservative family members who like their opinions matter to me and I value them like I don't know what they're going to think of me and I don't want to disappoint them or embarrass them but like with coming out with this so it was really scary. The other contestants of course aren't allowed to bring in relationships from home and date and paradise but you say and I think I agree with you and this is what I defended you about when the show was airing is there was really no other way to introduce a same-sex couple onto the show, then honestly manipulating it a little bit and bringing someone in from the real world. So is that what you're saying? Like, the importance

should override the unfairness to the other contestants? Yeah, definitely. I mean, that's what I think. I'm not, you know, I don't want to like try to change anyone's opinion on it or whatever. I just, that's what I think. And it's kind of like, let's just get over it and just like be happy and like celebrate the fact that we got to see two women like fall in love with each other. Right. Okay, well, you guys do in fall in love and you get engaged at the end of the show

and I feel like a lot of people are wondering, watching it, if you continue to date in the real world over that summer and not in paradise, would you guys have ever gotten serious enough to the point that you would get engaged? No way. Probably not. Definitely not. Okay, so then what went wrong?

You did get engaged, as Ashley just mentioned. How did it end? Not good, definitely not good. She's, Christian is very, very loving, and she's like the best girlfriend, the best partner to be with. She would do anything for you. and um i didn't reciprocate that i wasn't that i wasn't as good to her as she was to me i was kind of distant um i was overwhelmed i was freaked out i you know i was scared and like going through you know all of my family and like everyone finding out about um like you know me being

open to anything liking girls liking boys liking whatever that was stressed me out. I had a lot of family that was not a lot, but a couple people in my family, like, badgering me, texting me with how disappointed they were and all this stuff. And I don't know. Like, I, I don't know. I just, I wasn't, I wasn't in it anymore. I wasn't, I wasn't in it. And she was so in it. And she was so good to me. And like, that would make me feel guilty. Because I was like, I'm not feeling the same anymore. And like, I, I feel bad that I don't feel the same anymore because like I made a commitment to you and like I feel like a garbage human being and uh yeah it just it was really like fucking with me and like I was fucking with her and that

wasn't fair to her she deserved way better than me and like I wanted to be with her more than anything and like I kept trying and I kept trying and like I just wasn't I wasn't feeling it anymore like I wasn't feeling like I was before like I don't know it went away I probably let it get away because I was so in my head and dealing with other things that were going on and I missed my like friends you know I didn't see my friends that much anymore like I would try to and I was always worried about like hurting her feelings and stuff and I just don't think that I was anywhere near ready for what I signed myself up for and like what I did And I feel terribly about it.

Like, I wish I could go back and do it better. You know what I mean? Treat her way better. And, like, she deserves because she deserves way better than what I gave her. And, yeah, I mean, she's in a new relationship now, and she looks so happy. And so that makes me very happy.

I just feel really bad that I was, that person I had become in the relationship, you know? How Rocky was your relationship when she proposed back to you on the reunion show? And did that just make you a little bit irritated that she did that? Maybe as like a saving grace, the last ditch effort? You know, I don't. It definitely made me angry, but I think it, like, irritated. And I think that made me irritated because I'm like, I'm kind of like a,

I'm a selfish person sometimes and like that was like my thing you know I was like I proposed to you like you know and then I was like why like are you why why did you do it like that makes no sense like that was you know people don't propose to each other like that normally like I don't know I was being a bitch about it essentially I was just irritated about the situation and I was just oh and like I'm such a brat like I didn't like the ring at all and so I was just I remember you saying yeah so you know I was just a brat and I was being brady about it and just irritated in general because like once once I start you know you start not to feel it with somebody you kind of get irritable with everything they do so I mean I feel really really bad about that too because it was a like really nice sweet gesture and I like made her probably feel like you know she shouldn't have done it or made her feel bad about it. And like, that's so not fair. Demi, um, let's, uh, take a break here once again. I know life's been crazy post, uh, breakup with Christian, a little recap. You have a new boyfriend. Uh, you've made some good

friends in Bachelor nation. Uh, we've still got a lot more to talk about, uh, but we appreciate you so far. We'll be back on the almost famous in depth podcast with Demi Burnett. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect.

And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free iHeartRadio app, search emergency intercom, and listen now. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. From a very rural background myself, my dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like...

What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a... The story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?

A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Super Secret Bestie Club podcast season four is here. And we're locked in. That means more juicy chisement. Terrible love advice. Evil spells to cast on your ex.

No, no, no, no. We're not doing that this season. Oh. Well, this season, we're leveling up. Each episode will feature a special Bestie, and you're not going to want to miss it. Get in here! Today we have a very special guest with us. Our new super secret bestie is The Diva of the People.

The Diva of the People. I'm just like text your ex. My theory is that if you need to figure out that the stove is hot, go and touch it. Go and figure it out for yourself. Okay. That's us. That's us. My name is Curley.

And I'm Maya. In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heartbreak, men, and of course, our favorite secrets. Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the Michael Thura podcast network available on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it? Maybe you felt stuck in a job, a place, or even a relationship. I'm Emily Tish Sussman, and on she pivots, I dive into the inspiring pivots of women who have taken big leaps in their lives and careers. I'm Gretchen Whitmer, Jody Sweetie. Monica Penn.

Elaine Welterah. I'm Jessica Voss. And that's when I was like, I got to go. I don't know how, but that kicked off the pivot of how to make the transition. Learn how to get comfortable pivoting because your life is going to be full of them. Every episode gets real about the why behind these changes and gives you the inspiration and maybe the push to make your next pivot. Listen to these women and more on She Pivots, now on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The U.S. Open is here.

And on my podcast, Good Game with Sarah Spain, I'm breaking down the players from rising stars to legends chasing history, the predictions, well, we see a first time winner, and the pressure. Billy Jean King says pressure is a privilege, you know. Plus, the stories and events off the court and, of course, the honey deuses, the signature cocktail of the U.S. Open. The U.S. Open has gotten to be a very fancy, wonderfully experiential sporting event. I mean, listen, their whole aim is to be accessible and inclusive. For all tennis fans, whether you play tennis or not? Tennis is full of compelling stories of late. Have you heard about Icon Venus Williams' recent wild card bids?

Or the young Canadian, Victoria Mboko, making a name for herself? How about Naomi Osaka getting back to form? To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain, an Iheart women's sports production in partnership with deep blue sports and entertainment on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHart Women's Sports. We're back on the Almost Famous Podcast with Demi Burnett. We've sat down with Demi so far, and she just shared some just really amazing things to us.

It's been complex and complex in like a good, healthy way. I'm saying that because we all have stories and Demi reminded us earlier. Probably the coolest thing, Demi, that I'll take away from this is you saying that people are just complex and our stories are complex. I think that's just a really beautiful. reminder to me. So thank you for that. We've talked about a lot of heavy stuff, kind of, I think, so far. So we're going to pick it up a bit. I know life's really good for you right now, at least I think it is. But you've also made some friends in Bachelor Nation. You've made the headlines

many times for your friendship with Nick Vile. Where did that come from? Like, how did that happen? What was your relationship? So I was a huge Nick fan. I loved his season of The Bachelor. I was like obsessed with him. I remember telling Ashley that the first time she interviewed me. It was funny. And so then he asked me to be on his podcast and I was like freaking out. I was so excited. And then we just kind of like develop this like brother's sister relationship.

Like he always is like looking out for me and he like, you know, helps me out in the industry. Like he's, you know, I got to go to the Golden Globes because of him. He's just a really good friend to me and like we always just make sure that we like look out for each other because I know that we both do controversial things. things and you know a lot of people don't like him a lot of people don't like me uh and so we just have each other's back um yeah it's always been strictly strictly friendship we've never ever done anything um i've definitely asked him to make out with me once and he said no what drew you to feel like but you needed that i had we ate uh dim sum or something and then I was like drunk off a wine.

I was like, you want to make out? And he's like, no, get out of the car. The only place you go to eat with Nick would be dim sum. That's where he takes all of his friends. It's where he takes everyone. Takes everyone there. I know it's so funny. We all joke about it.

Like me and all his other friends, I'm like, you go to dim sum with Nick recently? Because I did. It's good. It's not that good, Nick. He's like his weekly dim sum. He loves it. I want to ask you about being a representative. for the just the whole LGBTQ community when it comes to the franchise.

How has that felt? Are there any really special stories that you have to share about breaking down that barrier for the show? You know, at first it felt really crazy and overwhelming, but now, you know, it just kind of feels like normal. And also, I don't really do anything with, like, The Bachelor franchise much recently, you know? I feel like ever since I got a boyfriend not in Bachelor Nation, they just don't want anything to do with me. But I can't really say, like I don't even know how I feel about it. Like, honestly, I don't know what to think.

The only thing that I will say, like, I do feel proud because of I've had people come up to me with their stories about, like, you know, one time this mother came up to me at Dancing with the Stars and she said her daughter came out to her because, of me and she was crying like this mother's crying in front of me and like that was just like so moving and I was just so proud that I was able to do that for somebody out there and there's been like a lot of stories that are similar like DMs people thanking me and stuff like that so it feels really good that I can make people feel comfortable with something that is like one of the most uncomfortable hardest things to do in the world that is awesome there have been a lot of fans who

wanted you to be the Bachelorette uh how do you feel like they would have casted that kind of season if you weren't in a relationship right now, which we'll get to in a minute. And how could they integrate more LGBTQ people into the franchise, you think? You know, I don't know what they would have done. I know what people would have wanted is like half guys, half girls, which, I mean, that would have been super fun. I would have loved that. But then they bring up the issue of them hooking up with each other and stuff like that,

which is like, okay, yeah, maybe that would happen too. So I don't, I don't know what they could do. I think about it a lot. I just, I don't, I don't know how they could do it. I, I don't have, I need a team. I need a whole team of people to help me come up with that. Well, you won't be the Bachelorette anytime soon because we got Claire next and you are in a relationship with a new guy Slater, right?

Yes, Slater. Yes, that's him. How did you guys meet? Um, one day Katie texted me and Katie said, Hey, do you want to go to lunch with me and my friends? And I was like, yeah, sure. And so I go up to the car and I opened the door and there is Slater. And my, I couldn't even breathe. I was like, what the hell, Katie? You didn't tell me. This dude was super hot. Um, and we like hung out all day. We went to eat because Katie and him have been friends for years. So it was like me, him, Katie and this other guy, TK. And we went to go eat.

Then we went to the mall. Then we went and got like gin and tonics. Then we went back to Slater's mom's house here in Calabasas. And then we drank wine and we made a TikTok. And then we hooked up. And then I have been with him every night since then. You are literally quarantined with your new boyfriend in your boyfriend's family's house. How do you go from that early stage of dating to every single waking moment together?

I don't know because it's so crazy because I'm not normally like this. I don't, I can't really handle this much time with anybody. But he just has such a unique personality and he's just so fun. And I just love being around and I love just watching him because he just interests the fuck out of me. Like he's just the most fascinating person. And his family is incredible. I met his mom the first night that we met obviously.

And she's just a rock star mom. And then he has his sister. So it's just, I don't know. I would have never imagined I could be doing this because this kind of thing would really intimidate me. But it just like, I don't know. It just kind of happened. Like we just got so close.

And then now I'm so close with this family and it's, I don't know, it's the craziest thing. It sounds like insane and unhealthy, which it might be a little bit unhealthy. But I don't know. I wouldn't have it any other way. How's it going so far? What's it like living with his family? It's great. Like I get along with everyone super.

well the person I probably get like don't get along with all the time is just later because you know you just start having stupid little bickers um but yeah I mean it's it's so much fun like his sister and me we have so much fun together like both of his sisters uh his older sisters like my new bestie we just hang out all the time and just do stupid together like just get drunk or whatever we want to do and then we like we started this new thing where we're having like theme nights so the other day we did like a Gatsby theme night and I didn't really expect like everyone to participate but everyone did and it was so cool and it was so much fun um yeah everyone's very very chill like a you know how sometimes you're around people and you're like oh I got to like watch myself around them you know

and like got to like filter yourself and everything not here like everyone's accepting of everything no filters needed uh it's just it's great it's very very relaxed so good that's awesome i'm with my i'm with my fiance's family as well so uh i know it can be a test and it's it's actually been great for us too so i uh yeah that's awesome i love that for us yeah well hey that's you know what dimmy we just did like a a wild run through your whole well i know those things we skipped like most of your life to this point that is a wild ride. Demi, I love this part of the podcast. Since we've gone through everything, it's now your turn to take the stage. There's people out there listening that are just huge fans of you,

and they love you dearly, and Ashley and I are two of those people. We're going to give you like 30 seconds to a minute here to just give the fans a message before Ashley takes it away with her famous rapid fire questions. Demi, what would you want to tell your fans right now? I would want to tell my fans that I love them. I think it's crazy that I even have fans. It's unbelievable still to me. I never thought that I'd be here. And I love how supportive they are to me and how loyal they are to me.

And even whenever I doubt myself or, you know, I'm feeling kind of low or something, like they are always there to like reassure me. Like if I'm intimidated by a situation, I have my fans that are like, you know, like me starting a podcast. And my fans are like, oh my gosh, yes, we've been waiting for this best part of like the quarantine. Like, you know, like this is what we need right now in 2020. And so it's nice to get reassurance. And so I want to thank them all for the reassurance. And I want them just to, you know, keep up with me and play Animal Crossing with me. And also make sure that they take time to love themselves as much as they love me and to love the people around them.

you know i think that everybody needs a bit more love right now and yeah but especially yourself thanks demi all right are we ready for rapid fire okay i'm going to start out with talking about your instagram name demi not lavato i feel like more people know you as demi not lavato than Demi Burnett and then Demi Lovato ends up becoming a good friend of yours. Can you describe your friendship with Demi Lovato in two words? Um, oh gosh. Let's see. My friendship with Demi Lovato.

Wholesome, fun. And it was just because she was a fan of the show, right? And she like wanted to date Mike and then she just kind of got chummy with you guys from that season. yeah and then we just started hanging out um like me and hannah went over there and then i just started going over there more often hanging out with her then we went camping together uh so we all got really close going camping and like we've had like cool like you know like healing things and stuff at our house like it's really it's really wholesome and it's uh it's good energy what's your favorite ice cream flavor strawberry interesting what is your favorite tv show

of all time game of thrones uh most beautiful complex storyline i love it what's your favorite physical feature of slater his body oh my gosh and his smile your favorite scented body wash dove coconut jasmine yeah um what are your thoughts of the quarantine crew uh oh hannah and tyler and all them yeah looks like they're having a blast also feels like uh this you know like the random strangers that like nobody knows who they are i'm like they are i'm thinking they're clout chasers they're like oh we've got to get these tic talks going out now i've got Hannah Brown and Tyler Cameron in the house let me ride that clout train oh that's funny and lastly what is your favorite beauty product um probably duh lip gloss

like lipstick lip gloss what brand um with shade so what i like to do is i like to take this nars lipstick and the color in the shade barbara and i like just this is just like every every five her like every hour i do this pretty much because i hate whenever my lips have like no color on them you know so i just like barely dab it like on there and then i take a lip gloss and it can literally be any lip gloss that i have like lip oils i've got cheap stuff like anything just to like put a little shine gloss on there and uh it like looks like slightly uh natural but it definitely makes it look so my lips aren't dead perfect well thank you so much demi yeah this in-depth podcast was amazing we truly got to know you so much better oh i was really nice guys it was very therapeutic oh good that's what we love

hearing yeah it's like i just went to therapy thanks demi this was this was great um as actually said Thank you. So, hey, follow the lead here. Let's see if we can do this right. Sometimes people get it sometimes not. Just follow Ashley and I. We do it every time. This has been the almost famous in-depth podcast with one of our favorite Bachelor Nation contestants, Demi Burnett.

We'll be back again very soon with another in-depth. I don't know, Ashley, what do you think? Next two weeks, we should try to come out with another next month. Oh, yeah. What are you thinking? Within, I would say within two weeks, we should have another in-depth. That's awesome. Hey, well, with that, Demi, as Ashley said, you were awesome.

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