The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous In Depth: Gabi Elnicki

Episode Date: April 14, 2023

Ashley is going one on one with Gabi Elnicki for a raw and honest look at her time as a contestant on Zach Shalcross’ season of The Bachelor.   Gabi reveals the exact moment she knew Zach wasn’t going to choose her. And, Gabi opens up about how it felt to be at the Rose Ceremony after EVERYONE knew about their time in the Fantasy Suite.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

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This is Wisecrack. available now listen to wisecrack on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts this is ben and ashley i almost famous in depth hey everyone welcome to the almost famous podcast today is the day that we've all been waiting for for weeks gabby l nicky is with us and we could not be more thrilled to have this badass woman on the show jared was on a plane today and found a bachelor fan And he said, Ashley's interviewing Gabby today. And she goes, you tell that girl that she is a badass bitch. And I was like, okay, I'll repeat that because that is how I feel about you, Gabby.

Thank you for coming on for giving us your time. Oh, my goodness. I love that. That's so funny. And thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to be here. For me, you were my favorite. And I don't, you know, I don't know everybody in the cast.

So like, no offense to everybody else, but you are my favorite. watching on TV this season because, one, you were like the relatable girl, right? Because you were always so open about the situations that you were nervous in, whether it was his final pick or the fact that you're just a little awkward around guys that you like at the beginning of a relationship. Yeah. I mean, I am. And I am not afraid to show that. I mean, it's just who I am. But that's what was so great. You're not scared to say it. You're like, I'm not the cool girl. I'm not going to try to be the cool girl. You're like, you really own and embrace your insecurities, your uncertainties, and your nerves.

And I love that about you. Thank you. I appreciate that. So because you are one of the most rootable characters, like everybody was just feeling so much at the end of the show. Because you were the main character the last few weeks. And I hate that you have to relive this over and over again. but we have to talk about Fantasy Suites Week. Did you know that you were your placement in that week?

Did you know that your date was second? I did because I did the math. Because you did the math, not because you girls knew. How did you do the math? Well, I knew when I arrived there. Usually you have like a day to rest from Travel Day. And then you know that the next day is going to be, you know, that day. They get home from the morning.

they rest. Then they do the next date. So I had done the math in my head of like, okay, well, you've been in Thailand for three days now and you are not on a date girl. So I had done the math there. Okay. So during the portion of your one-on-one with Zach during that week, he sits you down and says, you know, hey, I don't want to have sex with anyone this week. And you said, I didn't expect to get engaged to someone that I've never had sex with, which is totally normal and understandable. And I'm curious to know whether this conversation continued between the two of you in the fantasy suite because it did seem like such a executive one-sided decision from him on TV. Yeah, I think, you know, that conversation, the part that was shown, and obviously, you know, there is a narrative and there is, you know, there has to be context to, to what is shown and what happens.

But there was so much more to our conversation. And I'm a big advocate of therapy and mental health and mental wellness. And so much of Zach and I's conversation actually revolved around like my journey of healing, my like my therapy journey. There was just so much more that that we both related on and like such an intimate level of emotional intimacy. And we felt very connected. or at least I still felt that way.

Like, even though it wasn't me, I do think that we felt very connected at that time. And, you know, it's okay that that wasn't shown. But I do think there was so much more to that conversation that I think it's unfortunate that people maybe didn't get to see how connected we were at that time. And so, you know, if I'm thinking something, if I'm feeling something, I say it and everyone saw that throughout the season.

And, you know, I did say that to Zach of like, no, I didn't think this. And I don't know if he, I didn't expect it. And I don't think that he expected it either to be completely honest with you. I think he was trying to do the right thing to the best that he could. And I think he was trying to follow, you know, what felt right and what he thought was going to make the most sense to not hurt anyone. And unfortunately, you know, like relationships are messy, and relationships don't always, like, work the way that you think they're going to. And you can't set a plan because nothing goes to plan.

So, you know, that conversation, it was such a small portion of that. And, you know, it's just, it's kind of unfortunate. So are you saying that, like, when the cameras are rolling, before you went into the fantasy this week, you guys did have a longer conversation about all that, where you maybe saw a little bit more eye to eye? No, I don't, it wasn't even a longer conversation about it

because it was such a, such a small conversation there, like, where it was just like, this is my thoughts on the week. This is the statement that I'm making. I responded to that and, you know, that was that. You were like on to bigger things. Yes, like more important, you know,

what we're talking about. um which that is an important conversation but you know it was just a small portion of our conversation gotcha all right so something that was just mind-blowing to me or i'm puzzling it was all very mysterious and i think after the day of the reunion we were all like wait what does she mean by that what did she mean by that when you were on the after the final rose stage you said i didn't know that you told everyone about what happened in the fantasy suite until i was watching it on TV. And I want to know what exactly you meant by that because we do know that you told Katie while standing up there at the final three row ceremony that you felt like you were wearing a scarlet

letter. So you had to have known that she knew. You got to explain the whole situation and what we're missing. Yeah. Yeah. I think for me and, you know, in that moment I felt very isolated and I felt like my god everyone's looking at me everyone knows you know but i don't know what happened you know with i didn't get the details of other what happened after my fantasy sweet what happened her fantasy sweet that was never a topic of conversation and like i don't i don't care to know but um for me what i meant by that was i did not know when he came into my room and he spoke to me he said i don't want you to feel like you're keeping a keeping a secret And I don't want to start a relationship off with secrets.

And, you know, it was not like, hey, I'm going to go tell everyone that me and you were physically intimate. And I'm going to use your name in every single one of my interviews. I'm going to tell Jesse. I'm going to tell all my interviews, which I'm telling the world. I'm going to paint the picture of it was me and you. And you were the ones that were physically intimate. I didn't know the level of like, like, like, privacy that was going to be violated until watching it back of like like did I know that

it was probably going to be aired out that it was me yes but did I think that Zach was going to go and tell everyone and use my name and leave nothing for interpretation no I did not think he was going to do that and watching it back was the first time that I like actually like found out that he had done that which to me was very violating and it hurt more than like honestly even going through it because I was like oh my god like I'm seeing this and it's like so like I don't know I just felt so overwhelmed by like the the lack of privacy that I had yeah my boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious oh wait a minute Sam maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit well Dakota it's

Back to School Week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age.

And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants. wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor.

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on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. When I was watching that, I was thinking, it was awkward for me having to have my virginity all over the place when the show was airing. It was nothing that I'd ever, like, talk to my dad about.

Do you know what I mean? it was actually otter and more awkward for me to have my dad watch that stuff like one of the most close people to me in my life

than have the whole country watch it so how did you deal with your family going through that with you and them having to it's like yeah you know when you hear like

I had sex with her in the fantasy suite you like have you like come up with like a visual in your head and that's what I feel like you feel so violated for because there's a difference between what happens in the fantasy suite being alluded to, assumed and versus like it actually being blatantly said. So just like how did that feel with those closest to you on like a smaller scale? Because I feel like that's like the where it gets even weirder. Yeah. I mean it definitely was tough. I actually like made my sister like break the news to my mom before I did. Um, because it was something I was like fearing like, you know, how, how was all going to play out, how like, because I knew it wasn't me and I was like, how is this all going to like air? Like, I, I mean, I thought it was going to be me. Like I thought we were in love. And so, you know, the fact that it wasn't me and then this happened. And, um, you know, I was uncomfortable. I was, you know, I was worried like my parents would feel like they were. You know,

were being judged and like why like for what like there's no reason for that but um they were super supportive of me i think you know the hardest part for me was how it all played out of like how like everyone got to know me throughout the season and like i am like a very fun like hearted awkward person and like i'm not a seductress i'm not like this like you heard the like arabian music and like, oh, Zach says this, not, no, no. That's, I, like, thankfully, like, my family knows who I am, but I felt bad because I felt like maybe like the people who my family, like, you know, they're friends and my other family members and, like, everyone, like, they know who I am, but like, you know, no one knows, like.

I totally know what you're trying to say, yeah. What, what, who is this? And, like, anyone who knows me is like, Gabby's awkward. Like, she's not a seductress. But that's why we love you. That's why you're so endearing. Thank you. Yeah, no.

But even me watching it back, I was like, what? Well, you're sexier than you give yourself credit for. But I totally understand not feeling like a seductress. Okay, so you just said that you felt like it was you. That in that moment in the fantasy suite, you thought it was you, which I'd understand why. When did you start getting the gut feeling that it wasn't you? I know in my head there were two moments for you. One, there would be the one where you find out that he told Katie and then like Katie was

there and the whole like feeling like the scurly, you know, and then the fact that he wasn't looking at you. The eye contact thing was major because we knew as an audience that when Zach wasn't looking somebody in the eyes, it was bad news. So you were very much aware of that. Then the other moment, if I'm going to talk for you right now was when you were on the beach And he was like, there, I'm still not sure what I'm going to do. So I'm sure that you were feeling great after Fantasy Sweets.

And then you're like, doubt, doubt, doubt. Yeah. Yeah. I think, well, honestly, like, there were so many moments that Zach and I had throughout this season, where it felt like it was just me and him. And we had a lot of things in common that I think a lot of people didn't get to see. And people are like, what's Gabby's still doing here? But not mustard on waffles.

Not that one, not that one. But no, we did have so much in common and we had so many good moments where it felt like it was just us. And I didn't really have a doubt in my mind. And like you hear that, you hear Zach say that at some point. Like you've not doubted like our relationship this whole time you've had so much confidence in us. And I truly did. And I saw like because of how similar like our own healing journeys were. and how like we related on those things and like the things that really matter of like having a

life with someone of like how will we get through things that are hard are you going to pick me up when I'm down like are we going to enjoy the good times together are we going to get through the bad times together like there's so much I felt like we could have been like had a really successful life together and like a very happy life together and I think he felt the same way and so um you know i i think i i felt very comfortable to let my guard down to like to be emotional in front of him to share those sides of me to share my insecurities and he did the same to me and um so i think as soon as it there was just like this feeling like i can't say like it was one one necessarily thing that he did but i mean the eye contact that rose ceremony obviously

those were things, but I just could feel like his energy, like it shifted and I could tell that it was not me at that last date. It was not after I met his family, like we were in a really good spot. Like honestly, I still was feeling really excited. I was like, well, you know, he's trying to do the right thing. He's trying to be honest. Like I can look past this. Like, you know, I want somebody who's honest in life. I want somebody who, you know, you know, follows. their gut and their heart and, like, all these things. So I was like, I'll look past this. But in that moment, and then at that last chance date on the beach,

I could just tell that his energy was, like, different and something was off. And some of that could have been me. It might not have just been him. Like, I could have, I also, you know, you spend so much time, like, just by yourself thinking. And I think also it was, you know, time gives you more perspective, right? And so I think I was also having the time to think about, okay, like, why did he break your trust? Like, why would he, why would you guys say that it was going to be between you? And now it's, you know, he, Katie knows like the, like, other people know, like, um, obviously at that time I didn't know the, you know, how many people knew.

But, um, it's, it was just like, I think I was thinking through it more. and then I could feel his energy was different and I said that that day like I I almost sent myself home that day um and I I ended up staying and I had a conversation that like was like how how would you feel you know if you were on the other side of this and I I never wanted to do that to Katie never wanted to put her through like feeling like she was the chosen one because out of pity she was always the choice she was Zach's choice but I never wanted her to feel like it was just because it was her by default because I left but I knew on that last date on the beach so that's just really kind of you you basically took the courage to just walk up to that podium so that she would not feel chosen by default even though that wasn't her that wasn't the situation at all yeah I mean there's still a level of hope you have her Right. It wasn't like I was like, oh, well, I'm just going to stay here and humiliate myself. And, you know, I had a little bit of hope. Like, you know, you always, you always think in your head like, well, what if it is me? What if I'm being crazy? Like, what if I'm, you know, what if I'm so in my head and like, I'm just reading this completely wrong? So there was a level of hope that I had felt. But at the end of the day, ultimately, I really thought about going home. And, you know, putting myself in Katie's shoes of if I was on the other side of this, how I would feel was ultimately what made me stay because I knew.

Like, I knew after that last day, you guys saw me say it like, it's not me. And you guys saw me get out of the car that day and step in the mud and say, you guys clean this up before Katie gets here. Like, don't do this to her. It was, like, oddly beautiful. Thank you. Yeah. But I knew that it was. wasn't me another reason to love you even more really my boyfriend's professor is way too friendly

and now i'm seriously suspicious oh wait a minute sam maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit well dakota it's back to school week on the okay story time podcast so we'll find out soon this person writes my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot he doesn't think it's a problem but i don't trust her now he's insisting we get to know each other but i just water gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor

and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive

finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD...

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ADHD can really change the way somebody makes choices in life. Yeah. I think for me, like my ADHD in an environment like that was heightened. You have so much stimulation going on. There's so much around you. It is overwhelming. You aren't getting, like for me, like I'm used to exercising every day. I am used to sleeping, you know, at a regular schedule. There's a lot of things that I do to help regulate some of those symptoms of it that I feel.

And, you know, I didn't have. that necessarily that that same routine like I had you know I did the best that I could with the environment that I was in and um and so I normally on a daily basis like I probably can can handle those emotions that I feel a little better um you know if I'm feeling super upset about something I know I need to go on a walk or go exercise or do something that'll like kind of get my mind off of it um but I feel emotions and this is a common thing for ADHD for women, like feeling emotions very intensely, very strong and very quickly and having a hard time regulating those emotions. And so for me, you know, as it got more and more

intense and more stimulating, you see that come out more and more. It's also more time away from my therapist and more time away from like my normal life. And so for me, honestly, therapy taught me a lot of good tools going into the show um you know about you know like just taking a deep breath when i need to like trying to find things that will um like separate me a little bit or thinking about conversations of like you know she taught me something like do you need to say something right now like does this need to be said does it need to be said right now does it need to be said by you um and you know when you have all of these emotions around you that was a tool that she had taught me, you know, with some of the impulsivity that I feel

sometimes, um, that I really did feel like I used in the show because I would just kind of think that to myself of, okay, do you need to say this right now? Um, and then outside of that, like, I think the healing that I had done, you're not like suddenly healed. Like it, and a lot of people, like, I've had so much support. But a lot of people are like, sure. She's unhinged. She's not mentally stable and like all these things. And this is how I imagine they speak. I don't know actually how they sound, but that's how I imagine they speak. But, you know, it's a healing journey.

It's not suddenly you're healed and you're fixed and all of a sudden you're perfect. It's a journey. And like I have insecurities. I have deep insecurities. And, you know, I'm still working on figuring out how to cope with those. But I don't think they're ever going to go away. I don't think people's insecurities ever go away. might just get better at hiding them and I'm never going to hide how I feel and that's something

I you know I'd get upset in in private and maybe people wouldn't see it so publicly but you know my therapist also taught me like it's okay to not be okay like you don't have to always be okay um and so you know I'm glad people got to see my emotional side because that's how I was feeling and it was intense and it was emotional and so I think you know as I continue to heal like I'll continue to learn things about me that are not you know that are perfectly imperfect and that still need work and it's just like an evolving thing and so I don't know therapy is great it's taught me a lot and honestly the show is kind of like therapy so yeah through this bachelor journey I've learned that a lot of the people that say oh she's unhinged because we're

all vocal and open about our emotions are usually they really have got to um either have a reality check and realize that they probably act the same way in their house, or they need to go to therapy and live life a little bit more intensely. You need to uncover that a little bit. I think you have a feeling you need to release. Yes, yes. All right. So I just want to end this by saying that like Ben Higgins definitely should have been here

for you, or my permanent co-host, but like for you, he really needed to be here because he wrote a whole book about being unlovable. And that is an insecurity that you suffer with. And you really, really shouldn't because you are so lovable. And I just wanted to say, like, when you were in the back of that SUV and you were like, nobody's ever going to love me. Like, there's something wrong with me. I'm unlovable. I'm like, you know, Gabby, that you are just, you just haven't found that guy yet.

And that guy, when you find him, is going to love the shit out of you. Someday. Someday. I'll come along. Someday. But thank you. Of course. I appreciate that.

Of course. All right. Well, it's been a pleasure. Wish we had more time with you. Maybe we will see you soon on our TVs or here on Zoom. All right. Yeah. Thank you so much for having me.

Thank you so much. So good meeting you. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcasts on IHartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly. and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast,

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