The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous In Depth: Hannah Godwin and Dylan Barbour

Episode Date: April 2, 2020

Ben and Ashley go In Depth with a fan favorite couple from Paradise, Hannah G and Dylan! We find out how quarantine has tested their relationship and how things have changed since getting engaged.And... we get personal… and find out if they’ve been fighting during the stressful journey of wedding planning! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:32 Bachelorette, and then also Bachelor in Paradise. Ashley, you've been excited about this one. You've been doing a lot of research. What do you expect out of this interview? Well, Dylan doesn't hold back. In fact, I think Dylan likes to be a little sassy. Dylan likes to make a headline here or there. So I'm hoping we get that version of him. And Hannah isn't trying to make him go in some sort of PC direction. I think today's podcast maybe won't be as, who knows? I don't want to, I don't want to assume, but I, my assumption, my guess would be it's not going to be as emotional as some in-depth podcast in the past.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Okay, yes. But it's going to, it's going to be hilarious. I know that you've done your research to try to get the, the tea, as the kids are saying, out of Hannah and Dylan. And I am excited to speak to two people who have made me laugh many times. I know them well, you know them well. Hey, Almost Famous Family, you know them well as well. Let's bring Hannah and Dylan onto the first in-depth episode of this new season in our life. It's Hannah and Dylan. So, Hannah and Dylan, welcome to the Almost Famous In-Depth podcast.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Hey, thanks for having us. Thanks for having us. By the way, congratulations. Yeah, congrats, dude. From one engaged man to another. It's a good life, isn't it? It's the best. Yeah, I feel a new sense of, like, joy and peace and comfort. Do you feel that way? Yeah, I told Hannah, there's, like, there's, like, five things you want to check off in your life,
Starting point is 00:05:15 and one of them is, like, not having, not having to worry, but, like, finding, like, that, like, relationship half of your life or portion, and once you find it, it just like opens up so much more things for you. So yeah. Oh my God. I was like, I have so much more space to think about productive things in my head now that I don't have to worry about finding someone. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:05:36 You're like you can focus more on like work on your friends. Like it's the best. I became so work oriented as soon as Jared and I got engaged. Yeah. And it's interesting because I proposed to Jess obviously this week. And it wasn't supposed to go down the way. it did. And I was worried that this self-isolation time would kind of take away from the proposal. But we talked about our, um, on the last episode of Almost Famous. And the greatest part is now like
Starting point is 00:06:06 typically we're both traveling. We're moving about just like you guys are and just like Ashley is and just like a lot of people are that listen to this podcast. Now we're stuck to just like enjoy each other. And we had a date night last night and just looked over at me. And she said like, what's great about this experience is we've never spent this much time without distraction like i've always known i've loved you but now i know like more than ever that this is going to work and like i appreciate that because we've had so much time to hang out yeah there's always like a constant list of things to do and right now during this whole self-isolation time it's like you don't have any phomo you don't have any trips like you're just kind of focused on the moment
Starting point is 00:06:47 in a sense so yeah it's pretty awesome It is. Hey, if you guys hear background noise with Dylan and Hannah or Ashley or myself, we are all in separate places except Dylan and Hannah are kind of like sitting on top of each other right now. And then Ashley and I are separate places in homes. And so please forgive us. We don't have a studio right now. We don't have our own quiet spaces. We are coming to you live from the comfort of our own Skype. So please give us a little grace if you hear some pounding and begging in the background. Ben, how do you look so cool with the background blur? I was going to ask you that. He upgraded. It's like the new. Is it Windows?
Starting point is 00:07:31 Yeah. Fortune mode going on on Skype. Yeah, you're right. So if anybody's out there wondering, we're on Skype right now, and I guess there's a setting that kind of blurs your background and makes you, like, stand out. I feel like a cartoon character right now. You're so cartooning.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Yeah. So Hannah and Dylan, you are beloved by Bachelor Nation. And I want to tell you a little bit about what the in-depth podcast is. So a couple times a year, we pick some of Bachelor nation's favorite couples or people and we invite them into our kind of world at the almost famous universe to just sit down with the two of you and focus on your stories. We really just want to hear who you are as people. This is a time to not just dive into the show. This is not a time to just explore what happened in paradise or during the bachelor or bachelorette. This is a time for us to get to know you better, you as a couple better, to see where this goes.
Starting point is 00:08:21 at the end, we usually have no clue where the podcast is going to take us, but it's always exciting and it's always an interesting journey. The two of you obviously met in Bachelor in Paradise. That's how people know you today. And you come to us, not only because you are loved by Bachelor Nation, but because I met you all at a Bachelor Live on stage event. And Dylan, in his typical fashion, looked at me and said, why haven't we come on your podcast yet? And I said, that's a great question, mostly because we didn't know if you would have us. And so we're happy that you two are sitting with us today during this time of self-isolation. So thank you for having us. I'm going to get started at the very beginning. You guys just kind of spitball, you take it as you
Starting point is 00:09:06 want. Growing up, bringing you to the place where you became a part of Bachelor Nation, tell us who you were. If you could give us a summary of your childhoods, how you are you ended up on the show what you were like in high school and why you both were still single looking for love well when this show came to you go for it you went you were on first so you should go first well all right um let's see i who was i okay i think i would definitely consider myself being like pretty shy in middle school, high school. And I had like my close-knit group of friends. I didn't go on a bunch of dates or anything. I had one relationship in high school. And we were together for five years, which like in high school is kind of crazy. It was like towards the end of like sophomore
Starting point is 00:10:09 year or something or junior year we started dating. But before that, like I had never gone to dances with people I always went with my friends and like I don't know like I was not the super cool girl ever and yeah I was cool with it though I was like whatever like I'm just me and my friends and I'm like the goofy one whatever and then went to college uh I guess I was still the same like still had my core group of like girlfriends and everything and um one summer I I did an internship in L.A., and it, like, changed my life and my perspective on things. I'm from Alabama, so I was always just kind of, like, you know, I'd only seen, like, the South, really, and not done a bunch of traveling.
Starting point is 00:10:56 And so I went to L.A. and I was like, whoa, like, there's a lot going on out here. I like the energy and everything like that. And that kind of was, like, a game changer for me. And it kind of opened new perspectives on my relationship, which I was like, you know what? I can't be with somebody that I'm not fully committed with. Like, I was, the guy might, you know, my, my, my five-year-long relationship, I thought it was a good relationship, but it was never great. Like, he was a great person.
Starting point is 00:11:25 I just don't think we were super compatible. So I ended things and, or we ended things. And then I was like, single and do my own thing. And I was like, yeah, I want to get back out to L.A. Like, Albam is great and all. But, you know, I want to, like, just have like a more challenging. something in my life and um yeah I was single for a while on some dates all that stuff and then somehow um this show kind of crossed my path and I thought there was literally no way in how I would
Starting point is 00:11:59 like a lot of us like I was like there's zero percent chance I would get on this like this is it was almost comical just because I was like this isn't a real life thing like this doesn't actually happen to people I was that person like I've never really won something something in like a contest before like I've never had my name drawn so he's signing up for something like this I was like there you know there's no way I'll get on whatever just it was more of like let's just do it and if it bites it happens and if not like I'm still single so adventure whatever and yeah got casted for the show and it was just insane I was like focusing more myself relationship what I wanted who I wanted to be with and then all the things that come
Starting point is 00:12:46 along with the show which is like just I you know everything like my life went from like a 40 and crazy to like 110 in craziness so how long were you in L.A. before the show happened with that well who signed you up for the show did you sign up yourself so um my best friend Dina and I, we, she was like, she's my best friend in the world and she was like, Hannah, you have to do the show. And I kept putting it off because I was like, if I sent in questions or something, like, I don't know, making a video, I was like, that just seems like a lot of effort. Like, I don't get it in any way, so whatever. But one day we had had some mimosas and some drinks and then we recorded some questions and then and the rest was history. I remember the first night of the show.
Starting point is 00:13:35 I was like, I was telling the producers. I was like I know I'm like probably going home like whatever and they're just like like they're like you know they can't give you any clues or anything they were just like well you know you never know like I think you'll be fine but who knows and I remember when I got the first impression rose that was a moment where I was like like I wrote it down in my journal it's very like a heavy description on it I was like this is a moment when I was like okay like craziness is probably going to happen and then after the show it was just insane but really fun and then went to paradise because i was like well you know i if there's something in a sense therapeutic about going on the show about learning about yourself and really focusing on love especially with the crazy world after the the bachelor i was like how am i supposed to date or whatever and you know it happens whatever but you know i was like paradise this seems like pretty cool like another new adventure i learned a lot about myself the first show so why not and um again i wasn't like thinking of it super seriously i was just like well who knows and then i met dylan and then now we're
Starting point is 00:14:46 quarantined together in san diego so yeah i want to go back for a second what was your internship in when you were out in l.a during college um i worked at show me your moo moo it's a clothing company and they're so much fun to work with and um yeah it's awesome So, Hannah, I got to ask you, though, you can't, I think there's a level here where I hear you didn't expect to get on the show. And fans here, you didn't expect to get on the show. But you come on the show and I think you, like, have a larger-than-life personality and a larger in life-like character that you become and people are huge fans of you. At what point in time did you realize that moving to L.A. from Alabama, seeing the bright lights, of L.A. Then getting put on this show, like at what point did you realize that your life
Starting point is 00:15:42 was changing in pretty large ways from your small town of Alabama? Because I'm from Indiana, and I remember showing up to the mansion for the first time, walking out and going, this is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I don't know how to handle it. I think every moment along, even taking the flight out to L.A. for the, like, casting and everything, the whole time I was just, like, in disbelief. But that's how I am. Like, I tend to overly take things in and take in moments just so I can really wrap my head around it. I don't, I don't know why I'm like that. But every single moment, I was just, like, documenting, like, how insane it was. And I don't know, I feel like still to this day, though, as much as I've grasped my head around
Starting point is 00:16:36 all of these different things we've experienced, I still haven't grasped my head around like that people might think, oh, I'm Hannah G. Like, that doesn't make any sense and it never will, which I don't want it to. I'm like, the moment that makes sense, that's when I got to like stop doing all this stuff because I'm just like hanging out doing me. and I tell Dylan all the time I'm like isn't it wild like we just have these conversations
Starting point is 00:17:02 about just how insane all of this is and I never want that to seem normal because I know it's not and it in a sense it's a scary position to be in that we're all in but it's also a really cool one too it's like something we'll all tell our grandkids all of us
Starting point is 00:17:19 it's uh I've always said this Hannah and I think it's one of the best like things in my mind is that one day I'll be talking to my grandkids. I'll be sitting in a rocking chair on my front porch and they'll be like tell me because I do the same thing with my grandpa and I'm always intrigued at the stories he has to tell and how different life was for him when he was in his 20s and 30s and teens and I wonder what it's going to be like to have to explain what we did to those kids and how shocking it's going to be that at one point in their life their grandparents were
Starting point is 00:17:54 on a television show like I think I don't think it's ever going to be can like able to be processed but I'm so excited for that moment yeah it's really neat and I think the people that go through this and they think it's all totally completely normal and not a big deal and they think that they're like owed this or something that's the ones where I'm like they're lost like that you know it's just like it is crazy it's wild and it's cool that we at least we like every day we just try to find like the normal like side of it which I think we do fairly well we're pretty normal average shows so we're pretty normal yeah well before we pass it over to you Dylan uh Hannah one of the parts that kind of get overlooked in your life uh oftentimes now because of the show is your
Starting point is 00:18:40 success and your time spent in pageants now that was something that we kind of glossed over that I didn't hear about when you're explaining your upbringing so I don't know if you consider that a big part of your life or not, or if you still do, but I assume that the pageants is what brought you to L.A., and so obviously we've heard it that it wasn't. So just clear that up a little bit. Okay, there are definitely a lot of moments that I missed, but if I named all the things that got me or kind of led me, I feel like this would be too long of a podcast, but I definitely did some modeling things, which was introduced me. That was insane. Got some cool marketing opportunities. Within that, I was like, let's get pageants.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I wasn't somebody who did pageants when I was really young. Some of the pageant directors are like, yeah, why don't you get this a shot? And I was like, well, like, you know, another adventure pushed myself out of my comfort zone. And so I did that. I did three pageants. And I think I got in those, I got third runner up, third runner up. And then my last one, I got first runner up in Miss Congeniality, which I still at this day, I think getting Miss Congeniality, which is like in pageant terms, like where all the contestants
Starting point is 00:20:01 like vote, like who is like the friendliest. And I got that. And I was like, okay, this is pretty cool. And I did compete against Hannah Brown my final year. Neither of us won that year, though. And then I moved to L.A. Because I was like, you know what? I'm just going to get out and be done with this whole pageant thing.
Starting point is 00:20:20 It did teach me a lot, yeah, but I was just ready to, like, kind of determine my own destiny instead of, like, a few judges kind of doing it. So I was like, let me just get out, see how it goes. And then the next year, I went to go watch the pageant in the audience in Hannah Brown won, which in my head, I was like with the Moomoo people when we watched. And I was good for her. I was like, she's going to win. She seems so sweet. They were like, she did it last year. And I was like, oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Like, I totally forgot because there's so many people that do it. Yeah. Well, Hannah, I would tell you this. You and Hannah Brown are two gifts from Alabama that has brought us a lot of laughter, a lot of joy. Some would say tears. We've cried with you. We've laughed with you. And we've also cried with your man sitting that's next to you right now, Dylan.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Dylan, you are one of a kind. I remember the very first time I met Dylan was at. at Bachelor in Paradise and Wells Adams came up to me. Wells is always just a great friend and big supporter and he was down there and we were at a wedding and he came up and he says, hey, Ben, I have somebody pushing you as my favorite person to come from the franchise. And I was like, who's that? It has to be a girl. No, it's Dylan. He goes, this Dylan guy is the nicest guy. He's funny. You guys would get along great. And so, Dylan, I'm pumped to have you on the podcast. I want to hear, though, just an overview of who you were coming up to the show, just
Starting point is 00:21:53 so our audience gets to know you outside of this crazy world. And then I know Ashley is going to dive into who you became and who and what has happened during your time on The Bachelor and Bachelorette. But Dylan, tell us a little bit about what makes you, you. Yeah, I don't know, I feel like I had a pretty typical upbringing. Like I grew up in Orange County, went to school from like sixth grade to 12th grade, went to the same school, have like the same 10 best friends that I grew up with, like since I was, I don't know, like 12 years old. I had a girlfriend pretty much a majority of college. And then after graduating, moved out to San Francisco, worked at Morgan Stanley, kind of was like similar to Hannah. I was like
Starting point is 00:22:41 single for a while. And then my dad got diagnosed with cancer. So I ended up kind of just like re-evaluating what was important in my life and just like what it like I was sitting at my desk I was like what am I doing and my boss saying like they were very supportive but there was one day where he's like I can't give you time off for Christmas if you're going to go home giving and I was like this is the dumbest conversation I've ever had so then I just got up and told him I was leaving and quit and moved to San Diego like a week later and my cousin and I had been going back and forth at the same time about this idea we had, about, you know, being able to work out, give back and like redeem personal things to like treat yourself. And so that's when we
Starting point is 00:23:22 end up starting our company. So the way that works is every day you work out, you can donate a meal to charity. And each time you donate, you get points and you can like support local businesses and get like free drink appetizers. After doing all of that, I was in a relationship for like eight or nine months and it was like not the health at all. It was actually very unhealthy. Definitely a pretty bad breakup. And then, like, a month or two prior to that, my dad passed away. So I had, like, a lot of shitty things going on. And my mom was like, why don't we go on vacation? Like, let's just head out. And so in November, we went to the Maldives, and I was like, all right, I needed this. This was great. And then I got a message on Instagram,
Starting point is 00:24:09 and I opened it and it was from Lindsay Liles and she was like, hey, I'm a casting producer for The Bachelor and The Bachelorette. I'd love to talk to you about being on the show. And I was just like, I laughed and then I just deleted it. I was like, no. And then I went out and just hung out with my mom in the beach.
Starting point is 00:24:26 And after a few days, it's like, you never believe who messaged me like on Instagram to try out for a show. And she was like, who? And I told her, she's like, why not? Like, it's, she had like such a funny line. She's like, it's nice to be invited to the dance even though you're probably not going to go.
Starting point is 00:24:39 And I was like, thanks, I was like, thanks, Mom. Thanks, Mom. And so, yeah, so then I was like, all right, I messaged her back. I was like, okay, I'm interested. We FaceTime a few times, and I did the whole weekend in L.A. And I just kept saying, like, yeah, I don't think I'm going to get it. It's kind of similar to Hannah. I was like, yeah, I'm probably not going to get it, but it was fun.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Like, it was such a cool experience. And then Natalie Shabtai called me in the shower, like, while I was in the shower, and I answered it. while in the shower on Valentine's Day. And she was like, hey, like, you're going to need to be here in, like, three weeks. And that's when I was like, holy shit. Like, this is a... And so then, and then since then, like, we finished filming. I was off the show for, like, three weeks and then went straight to Paradise and My Hannah.
Starting point is 00:25:23 So it's kind of been like a whirlwind since then. You just reminded me that today is the six-year anniversary that I got the phone call from casting that they were interested in talking to me. It was on April Fool's Day, and I had submitted my application nine months earlier. Oh, my gosh. That's hilarious. That's so crazy. Wow.
Starting point is 00:25:43 This is a really weird day because like this is like kind of like the day that it symbolizes like everything changed. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And so that it was like it was crazy for me. I remember like getting out of the shower and looking at my cousin and then just being like holy like holy shit. And then.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I think I'm about to get engaged. The craziest. The craziest one was the night, the first episode of Paradise Air. that was like the wildest moment for me we can like talk about it more later but it's uh it's good to get to that point so i'm going to pause you there uh we now know the the high level details of what brought you and hannah to be who we are who we know today uh Dylan a couple things i want to just kind of clarify with you is uh is what is the status of kind of everything with work uh with family uh now um can you just kind of catch us up for our listeners who may
Starting point is 00:26:37 maybe don't know you well and who want to kind of get filled in on the details of everything you spoke about. Can you just share with us? Yeah. No, no, no. So I started the company with my cousin a little over two years ago now. So I just went back to what I was doing after the show. Nothing really changed to me. It was kind of just like going back to normal life. So still doing that full time. We've got, we're growing pretty quickly. So we've got like five full time people now, which is exciting for us. my family's doing well my brother moved down we hired him actually so he works for us too he's down here in san diego my mom's thinking about selling her house and moving to san diego so um it's been good
Starting point is 00:27:15 it's been a blast and yeah i mean i have nothing with positive things to say about the entire experience so now all of you are in san diego you are an entrepreneur your business is thriving uh i don't want to miss it dylan and so uh where can people find uh your business just before we kind of dive in with Ashley here. How can people locate you and how can they kind of follow that with that journey? Yeah, it's an app. You can download it right now. It's kind of specific to San Diego at the moment, but it's called V-I-Z-E-R. But yeah, so we're opening it nationally, hopefully in a few months here. We're working with World Central Kitchen and Revolution Foods. But yeah, you can follow us on Instagram. It's V-I-Z-E-R-A-P-P-P.
Starting point is 00:28:05 It's in my bio too, so, but our website's vizraft.com. So it's all pretty good. Well, thank you for sharing. I'm sure we're going to get into more details as we go. Hey, but let's take a break. Before I bring it over to Ashley, I want to just take one break here from our sponsors, and we'll come back with Hannah and Dylan during this in-depth podcast with the Almost Famous podcast.
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Starting point is 00:32:42 So, Hannah, it sounds like you were a fan of the show. And Dylan, did you ever watch the show before being on it? No, I'd never seen it. um like not once so i had absolutely no idea what i was getting to i know when they told me that i was going on i like watched highlight tapes and then i watched the first episode of colton season and i picked uh hannah or cassie to win actually so that was pretty funny that is funny okay so you watched the first episode of colton season because you wanted to see who was going to be possibly your bachelorette yeah yeah and i wanted to see like what it was like
Starting point is 00:33:27 because I still had really no idea. I saw a lot of Chad Johnson highlights. Okay. Just like on YouTube? Yeah. And then I think there was like top 10 moments. And I like watch that. And I was like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:33:42 I kind of get it now. So how did you feel when Hannah Brown was announced as The Bachelor and not Hannah G? I was pretty excited. I mean, I had a few people that I was hoping it would be, Hannah Brown, obviously being one of them. But I just think when I got there, we didn't really have, like, any, like, connection, really. Unfortunately, like, both tried very hard, but it just, like, kind of wasn't there. You were kind of, like, the tanner of your season where you seemed like a great option, but the Bachelorette and you didn't have the most chemistry. And then you became a big Bachelor in Paradise Star.
Starting point is 00:34:22 I wouldn't say a star, but I. Okay. but like no I would say start it it was fun I had a great time and I remember I left I was just like that was an awesome experience it was kind of meant to be I remember saying in our last conversation I was like how I was like how am I supposed to introduce you to my mom if like we don't know anything about each other and then I went and then I went home 24 hours later Hannah you were a fan oh yeah yeah I When did you start watching? Um, I definitely watched Ben's season. Who's, who's before you? Before Ben's season would have been a, well, well, Chris Solz's bachelor season and Caitlin's, Caitlin's Bachelorette season.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Yep. In both of them, do you know before that? I don't know the order of any of this. It was around. It was around. Before that, like Juan Pablo and Andy? Oh, yeah. No, I watched Andy season.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Okay. Um, it was one. of those things like like the Monday like eat Chinese food with my mom same it was just like wanted like the special like fun memory things and then whenever I was on it she was like freaking out lose her mind it was like the sweetest thing ever that was the same thing with me and my mom we would always get delivery on Monday nights and watch The Bachelorette so my mom like it was just the highlight of her life suing me on the show and it was a joke that we always had um how was your dad about it Hannah my dad didn't
Starting point is 00:35:55 never watched the show before like i i don't think he realized the extent of how how big thing it is for people yeah i was excited like for me to just like go explore and you know maybe find somebody really great like you he the most simple simple dude ever so he was just like supportive and awesome about it i don't think he realized how big it was until i took him to I mean, they knew the show was big and everything, but I took him to a country concert because he loves country music. And instead of all these people going up to, like, the country singers,
Starting point is 00:36:34 these people were like lined up and he was there with me. And I think, like, we got in the car that and he was like, whoa. This is actually kind of crazy. I was like, yeah, you know, I forgot to kind of say that. Like, it is kind of wild. But it was when the show was off. There is something crazy about country concerts and Bachelor fans. So in between your seasons and going to be on Paradise,
Starting point is 00:36:57 there was a lot of DMing, texting, even seeing each other in real life. As we know that Blake came to see you down in Alabama. Did you and Dylan ever exchange any DMs? Because seeing how Dylan was so taken by you that, you know, immediately in paradise, I would think that Dylan you would have reached out to Hannah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Oh, you did. Dylan totally slid in my DMs. No, I... Which, whatever. See, so here's the thing. Now for the future, everybody's like, this is a giant no-no, obviously. And at the time, everybody was like, oh, like, whatever. But then it's like, well, we're a bunch of single people.
Starting point is 00:37:38 And, like, it's not really anything deep. Is it just, like, friendly? How it's like Bachelor Nation kind of weird stuff. And then, yeah, apparently it's a giant no-no for any future people going on Paradise. don't recommend just don't reply and yeah if you don't reply do you think you're kind of screwing yourself over for finding a partner in paradise at this point what do you mean if i don't reply yeah like it feels like almost everybody goes in almost coupled up or like knowing who they're going to ask on their first date i think people have ideas just because they've
Starting point is 00:38:14 seen the show or now with social media out there they like see kind of the person is or if they're like a bad not a good person or whatever and or if they just simply think they're cute um but you know I think I looked at it way too simply in the sense of just like you know like yeah I want to find somebody and there's no it was all very just like you know I'm not sure what's going to happen and whatever like very just like friendly convos but um Obviously, when they hone in on it, on a show that's only two hours, you know, an episode, then it looks like there was some master plan or something when truly, it was just very, he had a master plan, apparently. There is nothing to be ashamed of with DMing before the show. I think that you guys are now together.
Starting point is 00:39:13 I think we should celebrate that and say that's wild, that's crazy, that's hilarious. but I don't see I personally don't see any reason why what either of you did by messaging beforehand or whatever is wrong well we we did see each other beforehand
Starting point is 00:39:30 oh you did see each other beforehand there was a group of people yeah so you didn't go on a solo date but you went on like a group date we were in the same area as a few different people and I thought Dylan was just I was playing hard to get
Starting point is 00:39:49 I think you It may come as a shot Which I was just like, you know Playing it cool too Like it wasn't like we're like Oh hey or anything weird It was just like And then after that apparently he'd dance
Starting point is 00:39:58 What do you mean apparently? Where was this meeting at? Can we hear Where was this group meeting at? This was a group meeting We have to elaborate So here's the thing about a podcast Is
Starting point is 00:40:10 Like Everybody's gonna love you too They already do But we have to make sense of how this all came to be. You're, you're in love. People are going to be mad at you for being in love. Like, that's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:40:22 That's a positive thing. So elaborate, where did you meet? How did it go down? Dylan, you then slid into the DMs. You waited until paradise. We saw the turmoil in paradise leading up to this moment that Ashley will ask you about. But where was this meeting? It was, we met in L.A.
Starting point is 00:40:39 We grabbed some drinks. Some people. At one restaurant. I gave her my sweatshirt. smooth move it was like my favorite sweatshirt it's actually like it was it was like the most thing I've ever spent money on my entire life so I like it was beloved to me well it was just kind of cold but it was like kind of weird like it wasn't smooth he was like I was like oh it's kind of cold and it was it was not a long ordeal like the whole time and I was like it's kind of
Starting point is 00:41:06 cold he was like well do you want my sweatshirt I'm kind of hot and I was like uh and then in my head I was like well maybe he's like trying to be nice and I was like uh yeah sure whatever And then I was like, and then as soon as we all say goodbye, oh, yeah, I said, a really nice sweatshirt, which I didn't know. And he was like, you could just keep the sweatshirt if you want. And I was like, no, it's okay. Like, here you go. Thank you, though.
Starting point is 00:41:27 She's like, no, I was like, no, seriously, you could just keep it. It's all good. I was like, I didn't know what I was doing. And from there it was all that's adorable. That is so cute. Can you tell us where this happened and what other Bachelor alums were present? Uh, can't say the Bachelor alums. No, it was in L.A. It was at a hotel, like the restaurant bar. Super casual.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Okay, all right. There's definitely some, like, creepy stuff. There's, like, you're making this sound a lot of a bit of a bigger deal than it probably was. It sounds creepy. There's no creepy stuff. What do you mean you can't talk about the Bachelor alums over there? Because we don't want to put their, we don't want them to be like. I want them to get in trouble. Fair enough. Oh, they're fine. Fair enough. They're definitely fine. It wasn't anything weird. It was a little weird. It was. like a very like friend of friend then a friend of friend and then we all just hung and then it was like that was a four person meeting we talked about insider trading and so that's why I don't really want to get into it okay all right all right I'll respect you and move on to actual
Starting point is 00:42:28 paradise but in since paradise was so far away you know like six months it's been over six months since it was done airing I'm wondering if you now can tell us what happened between you and Blake and that triangle of love and like Tayshah's involvement, anything that we didn't see on TV that possibly would, you know, make a lot of sense to us? Uh, I mean, we didn't talk like the, the entire month we were there, if that. Wait, what do you mean? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Who? In Blake. Oh. Like, yeah, is there, is there stuff that happened in paradise that was crucial to your love story that we didn't get to see? well i mean you didn't get to see 90% of the time we hung out yeah i think i think the entire time basically i was trying not to get in everybody's business and i was talking to a producer about like you know i feel like a little played like basically here's what's happened and like you know i
Starting point is 00:43:39 but i don't feel like i should involve myself like just trying to be like what's the best way to approach this whatever and I was like so who should I like tell first like what should I do and then while that was while I had said that they somehow twisted it into somebody figuring out somehow without me saying it I don't know what I'm not sure exactly how it happened and then people came up to me and were like confronting me like what the heck and I was like wait this is kind of in the works like of me trying to figure out a way to say this. But then it looked like I was just being secretive and sketchy.
Starting point is 00:44:18 So basically in the interview rooms, I was like, well, here's what's happening, blah, blah, blah. And I'm trying to figure out ways to like tell people about it. And then all of a sudden it was out there. And then it was like, why wouldn't you tell me? And I was like basically like, dude, like I'm trying to figure out like
Starting point is 00:44:35 what is the best time? Like, what's the deal? What's the situation? I don't know. It was, I think it was very confusing even watching i was trying to follow that narrative um i don't know i feel like you have to ask questions yeah what questions do you guys have like what did it seem like from you guys's perspective ashley is a a bachelor in paradise expert i will tell you that um she is really good at understanding bachelor in paradise because i've never been in there and her insight always helps me from my perspective it's this this is how i took it and then
Starting point is 00:45:17 i can throw it to ashley hannah you were a hot commodity people wanted to get to know you they were interested in you in paradise uh people were intrigued by who you were we knew that going in we had even talked to you about it we said oh watch out for paradise hannah this is going to get wild for you um dylan was kind of like uh the sneaky pick like he was the underdog that came at the end and we're like, oh, this Dylan dude's super good looking, really funny, really nice guy. I think he stands a chance. Like, I think he might win the girl here. And I think what I felt like was it got so much so quickly for you, Hannah, that it felt overwhelming almost. Even watching as a friend and a supporter was like, oh my gosh, there's no right decision she can make here
Starting point is 00:46:04 because everything is coming down on her at once and there was no right place to turn. That's how I So I think what Ben is saying is how long did the Blake drama last? And was there more of a conclusion to it than we saw on air? All of that drama was probably a total of three days. Oh, wow. Yeah. So it seemed like it was over a bunch of different episodes. But I think total, like that dramatic part was honestly two to three days where I was just like really stressed out because I was like, geez, like I feel like,
Starting point is 00:46:40 I could do zero right in this part or maybe I just like suck as a person. I'm not really sure, but all I know is that it's not a good situation. And I just was like trying to figure out ways to make it, like make more sense to everybody or I don't know. It was just really stressful. And then meanwhile, I didn't know that people were saying really bad things and interviews about me or not bad things. I mean, just things that I had never heard about myself before. and so I was just going around like it wasn't a giant deal it was just more like yeah like you know I'm trying to figure it out and then um yeah and I didn't know about the whole like how like Kaelan and Blake had a bunch of drama at the same time it was very confusing like we knew about the stage coach thing but from what I had heard before the show because I was
Starting point is 00:47:46 like that's kind of shady I'm not sure like whatever like just trying to like not really go in depth about it but he he literally was like yeah we squashed it or you know whatever and then it came out so I was like confused I was like wait was he lying or was it worse and then all those crazy text came out. It was just a big jumble of crazy drama and I was like, okay, how can I remove myself from like this type of drama? Like I was just kind of like going in trying to, you know, figure out if I was going to like put somebody or date somebody and I somehow superly, overly got involved in a ton of drama. So now we go to present day. Who do you dread running into at Bachelor Nation events.
Starting point is 00:48:38 A lot of people, I'd say, probably, if we're going to be honest. Yeah, let's just be honest. Yeah. A lot of people, but like no one working in a name. Well, I mean, who do you think? I think that you guys probably don't want to run into Blake or Tasia. I don't really have an issue with, I don't like, do you have an issue with Tasha? I don't really have an issue with it.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Yeah, me and Tisha, we're cool now. I mean, it's, you know, it's awkward, but like, again, from, like, from what I was perceived as on the show, I feel like Tasha also could have been perceived as something else. So I'm trying to take that into account. And I'm like, you know what? Like, I don't really hold grudges. If we're all just confused and exhausted and not even sure what any truth is at some point on the show, then I need to give them a break.
Starting point is 00:49:32 So, I mean, we're cool now. okay that's awesome um you guys also you have like a group of friends from these past two seasons of the bachelor and bachelorette that like there's so many breakups and so much tension between so many of them how was your engagement party when you had hannah brown with jed and with peter at the same place uh it was super fun i don't think anybody really interacted with each other but it was actually very peaceful um there was so much going on and people got there at different times and things like that. Um, honestly, I was so focused on having fun and I think everybody in a sense kind of had their group of people. So I don't think any weird paths were crossed
Starting point is 00:50:17 luckily because that could have gone super downhill. But it was really fun. I had so many friends from, you know, Alabama out there. Dill had friends from all over. So we were having just as much fun, you know, fun with them as we were with like our bachelor friends and stuff. So luckily it was very peaceful. So you're good friends with Hannah Ann. Did you help her get on the show? I don't think she needed any help getting on that show at all. But I had one of the producers reach out when we took a picture together or story or something last year. And he was like, whoa, is she single? Like, you know, and I was like, hey, I don't know, whatever. And she was in a relationship. And then they ended up breaking up. And when I got back from Paradise, she was like,
Starting point is 00:50:59 hey, it's kind of random, but you remember when you asked me, or I told her something when the producer asked me, I was like, I was like, hey, I know you're in a relationship, but how funny like this, you know, producer from The Bachelor asked about you. And she's like, oh, that's funny, whatever. And then after Paradise, she had, like, after my Paradise, they had ended things. And she was like, I kind of want to like look into it. I don't know. Maybe, maybe not. And I was like, why not? Like, just like, see how it goes, see if it's your thing, whatever. And I don't think I helped her, but, you know, she definitely put a good word in. I definitely put in a good word, but it, you know, I think she definitely would have gotten
Starting point is 00:51:36 on the show regardless of me. I think you're probably right. Yeah. So when she insinuates on after the final rose that Peter reached out to Hannah Brown during their engagement and you being friends with Hannah Ann and Peter and Hannah Brown got to know what you know about this. a whole lot. Yeah, I don't really know. That was definitely news to me. And I think it's also, like, at the end of the day, between the three of them, I guess. It's like anybody's friends.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Like, just because they're on TV and so many people are invested in it, it's like my normal friends who haven't been on the show back in Alvima or something, if they had something weird going on, like, I don't feel like it's. totally my place to like hop in or try to like get a bunch of clues. I didn't even know that um Hannah Ann like had been engaged or anything. So it was very hush. Like I just told her I was like I'm here to support you in whatever ways like you know and I respected it because you you can't just be like prowl for information like there's more to a friendship than trying to like figure out what happened on a show. So I was like, I have your back, you know, just like, let me know if you are struggling with anything or if you just want to chat like as a friend and not talk about bachelor stuff. So that's kind of the role that I played in it. And whenever some spoilers
Starting point is 00:53:08 came out, I just kind of reached out. And I was like, hey, like, you know, I'm here, whatever. And let's chat after. So. Well, hey, we're all a bachelor nation. This has been one of the wildest seasons i can remember i kind of forgot hannah that you were so closely connected to hannah ann i figured you would know you would have known that she was engaged but it's probably glad it's probably good that you didn't because the last few weeks would have been so confusing because you go from being engaged to being broken up to then seeing peter um still in chicago with kelly here as we've got breaking news as of today um dylan hannah ashley let's take a break we'll come back, and I want to speak to the two of you about who you are, where you're going, and what the
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Starting point is 00:58:14 We're back with Dillon and Hannah G. Hannah, I don't know if you remember this, but Ashley and I talk about it often. You go down in the Hall of Fame as one of our favorite guests to ever be on the podcast. Ashley, do you remember when we first had Hannah G on right after her season got done? Yes, we were both in awe. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Well, thanks, guys. We were both like, I mean, we both were just taken back by, first off, how funny you were and how kind of creative you were and your responses and just how easy you were to talk to. And then I meet Dylan. Dylan, don't worry, you're sitting there going, oh, it's always about Hannah. It's not Dylan. It's also about you. I meet Dylan a couple times now. And you exude the same joy.
Starting point is 00:59:07 I want to tell you this, if anybody's out there listening going, I'm a big fan of Hannah and Dylan. I've got to be around them as a couple of few times. And there is this infectious, I'm not going to put words in your mouth. But what I get out of seeing you to in relationship is there's just this deep, true friendship. Do you mind speaking to that? Because I think when people see you, they see you giggling, they see you hanging on each other, they see you kissing at like sometimes like inappropriate moments, which is great when you
Starting point is 00:59:36 see it for a couple that's in love. But you also have a friendship. Can you tell our listeners what that friendship between who view is like? First of all, thank you so much for saying that. That really means a lot. Yeah, thank you. I thought you didn't like me at first. All right.
Starting point is 00:59:52 I can be polar. I don't want to play this game. You know I've liked you. You know that I enjoy your presence. Compliment me a little bit more. Jeez. All right. Tell us about your friendship.
Starting point is 01:00:05 I don't know. We just like have the exact same sense of humor. And I feel like from the moment we met each other, we were like, oh, okay, like, I like hanging out with this person. And it's the way we communicate and we say this all the time. Like, if we're just like chilling, you know, when you're just like talking about whatever, like I, we both always say it back and forth. But I feel like Dylan is like family. Like the way that you talk about or the way I talk about like my mom, my dad, my very best friend in the whole world. like that's how I feel about Dill and I don't know it's really cool it's a very safe space like anything I say I'm like you know what like I can say anything around you and we're so dumb when we're alone yeah we're just like whatever comes to mind we just say it and there's no holding back and then also just like you know being a person there besides you know humor aside really just when something's bothering either of us um
Starting point is 01:01:07 I don't feel like, I've never felt once ever judged about feeling whatever way that I feel, even if it's possibly not rational or what, but it's just like me feeling like the truest, truest form of me, especially after, you know, going through something so crazy like this, nobody really gets a true sense of who any of us are. I mean, they have a general idea, but not truly. And it's pretty cool that Dylan, like, knows who I am. and I feel like he would, it sounds so weird, but like he would know the exact same soul of me at like five years old versus now. It's just like the truest, raw, purest form of me. It's so like gushy and annoying, but I don't know how to explain it.
Starting point is 01:01:51 It's like pretty cool. I think that's a fantastic explanation. Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, do you think, because you both are very funny people and Ashley, I'm going to ask the same question to you. but you know we all have our experiences on this show and we all and again the in-depth podcast is not just to go back to the show all the time but it is such a critical part of our lives and it's what brought you two together and it's brought my co-hosts and her husband together do you think humor has helped you heal because i imagine and from my experience there's damage
Starting point is 01:02:25 caused by um the emotions and the pains of the show and then when you end up in a relationship and now, you know, I am engaged to Jessica. Like there's moments that the show still affects our relationship and we have to figure out ways to heal as a couple from them. So for you, Ashley, I know you had your pains, obviously going through Bachelor in Paradise. Hannah and Dylan, we just recently have watched kind of the struggles to get to the point you are.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Has humor helped? Definitely. Yeah. Positivity, humor, trying to not take it as so heavy because, I mean, it's a lot and it's a part that not a lot of people talk about, but knowing that, you know, something is edited in a certain way, or you just mess up, like, as simple as just like, or something doesn't go the way that every single person in the world wants it to, which that's not real life. It is on TV, but not in real life. And it's just
Starting point is 01:03:26 really heavy knowing that millions of people are like slandering you or slandering, like, you You know, who you love so much and so deeply. And so it's really nice to be around somebody who can kind of make light of it, make it not feel so heavy. It's like whenever you're in a bad mood and you watch a comedy show or a funny comedy on TV, you're like, okay, it's not that deep. Like that's a phrase that will just kind of like guide you to feeling like it's not so heavy because it does feel heavy when, you know, even if you turn it off or don't read it, you're like, wow, people are thinking about that me right now, about or those things about me right now. And that's hard. Ashley, what about for you and Jared? Like, how do you heal after a bachelor?
Starting point is 01:04:07 I mean, Bachelor in Paradise brings on its own drama and its own weird circumstances. How did you heal as a couple to get to the place that, you know, obviously you are? Well, I think it was probably just because we were friends throughout that. Yeah. I think we always talk about if we were a couple, if we left Bachelor in Paradise as a couple, that we would have some real big. big up and downs. And we think it worked out perfectly the way it was where we didn't have to be in a
Starting point is 01:04:36 relationship, like a boyfriend, girlfriend, romantic relationship when we had to deal with those hurdles. Did you guys coming off the Bachelor in Paradise have any arguments about what was being aired when like August and September came around? Were you like blissful in July and then August and September you had some fights while watching it back? I don't think we had any fights. like I knew pretty much like we just talked the entire time in paradise so I knew everything so
Starting point is 01:05:06 nothing was really a surprise to me yeah um and I didn't really watch like a ton of the beginning because I was like it's just pointless like I'm because I'm gonna get mad and then like it'll end up hurting our relationship versus being like more productive about it and online Dylan is kind of like you know petty or whatever it's like not petty okay whatever but But in our relationship, he's very good at like really just taking out all of the junk and focusing on like the rational answer or the most supportive answer. And that's what we both kind of tried to do. And especially during Paradise, like, you know, you're watching and it hurts or whatever. And then you see like the world is also saying all these different things about you and stuff.
Starting point is 01:05:59 things that are so special to you like and um yeah I feel like we were pretty good about like communicating through it which some in some circumstances it's impossible to communicate about it's just like a weird like you know whatever but in our space it was you know I think we're pretty understanding about everything and like just making sure each other were good and um holding on and getting through it so uh Dylan I want to say I want to switch gears for one second and I want to go I want to go back to the very beginning of this podcast and and just allow you a platform to to speak because I I know and Ashley knows that you two are just you're a couple that is so much bigger than the show now right you're a couple that is forming this this love and this partnership that will last a lot
Starting point is 01:06:48 longer in the show ever will and then Dylan you know you it's it's impossible for me to just gloss over, which was my original intention, but it's impossible for us to gloss over your story without wondering what it's like to now sit here and all the changes that have happened to you, good and bad in the last 10 years, bringing you to the man you are today, kind of, if you could just sit in that for a little bit and just look back at even the last like eight years of your life and how much life has changed for you, like what words do you have to wrap around that? Is it, is it, can you even explain it? I think I, um, I take a lot of pictures and videos and I rewatch them a lot.
Starting point is 01:07:33 And I've got like, they span back like seven years essentially. And so Hannah can like attest to it. Sometimes I'll just like sit on my phone and watch old videos. Um, and like I have like voicemails and my dad I'll listen to and like looking at pictures like being back in high school and then I take screenshots of stuff like when the show was airing that I thought was just like like holy crap like I'm trending on Twitter like I took a screenshot of that like like stuff like that and I just try to appreciate it and and just like okay and I my big thing is like appreciating that but also living in the
Starting point is 01:08:08 moment at the same time and being like this is what I have today like how can I take advantage of it and I feel like I was able to do that in a lot more ways of my life first instead of like being on the show like whether that's like starting our app or meeting Hannah and just being like, you know, I'm going to completely go for it. And I don't know, it's definitely weird. It's very surreal. My mom and I talk about it a lot. We're just like how, I always say like, wow, my dad would have thought this is the funniest shit of all time that these people are like taking pictures or like writing like blogs or getting all up and getting their, I don't want to say.
Starting point is 01:08:47 When I tweet something like and I just think it's so funny because I'm I'm still quite literally the same exact person. And I think that's some, that's like the highest compliment that I think my friends have given me since all of this started because I was always afraid of that. But, no, it's, I'm just very, like, appreciative of it and, and just thankful for sure. Well, go ahead, go ahead. No, no, no, no, no, you go ahead. You know, it's a, it could be a loaded question, but twofold. so one is Dylan how does your mom and Hannah I would love for you to answer this if you could but how does Dylan's mom respond to you because you're obviously a gift to their life and then Dylan how does your mom respond to all of this the good and the bad and all the funniness and then finally as a couple and Ashley after this I'll let you kind of take it away as a couple then as we sit in the midst of self isolation and Dylan I think of
Starting point is 01:09:51 anybody could speak to be an appreciative for the moments that we have. It could, it's you. I want to, personally, as somebody that does like you, has always liked you since the moment I met you liked you. I want to hear your advice on how can we as a people right now be appreciative for the things that we've lost in the season that we're in for the things that we're gaining and just the moments that we still have in isolation. So, okay, first question was, Hannah, how has Dylan's mom responded to you, Dylan? How has your mom responded to the whole thing? And then Dylan and Hannah, if you have stuff to add in, too, is how do you find and how do you
Starting point is 01:10:33 just gain appreciation for everything that's changing right now in our world? So something a lot of people don't know, his mom and brother were actually flown to Mexico during Paradise and I met them and it wasn't aired. So I was very nervous to meet Dylan's mom just because he was like, she's a very strong woman, like she's, you know, protective over me, she loves me a lot, whatever, but luckily our conversations slowed supernaturally and I was like, trust me, I get it. Like this is a little taboo of a situation, but Dylan and his heart and who he is and what stands for rocks and it's really compatible with me and you know all this stuff and um as soon as the
Starting point is 01:11:20 show was over too i flew to wisconsin to their lakehouse and um we really got to just hang out a ton and i love cassandra barber i think she's amazing great human and um really funny she's hilarious she's the most selfless caring person i think i know next to hannah like the two of them um but Yeah, that was funny. I was like a side note for that story is Hannah, Hannah left. And then I, like, sat on the couch in Mexico. In Mexico, yeah, in paradise. And I put, it was the day before proposals. And I, like, put my feet up on the couch. And my brother was like, are you going to get engaged? And I was like, no, no, don't worry about it, guys. Don't worry about it. Like, it's not going to happen. And then they leave. And I lean over to Todd. And I was like, oh, yeah, we're doing it. speaking of moments like that and the sense of humor that you apparently inherited from your mom like you are such a funny silly sarcastic like shitster but on the show on paradise you came across as this lovesick puppy and we only saw one dimension of you um i'm still lovesick puppy that's so cute that's so cute i i i think like with that i was definitely i i didn't really do anything the first
Starting point is 01:12:41 week like the first week i didn't drink alcohol i was like 100% sober i would wake up go eat breakfast and be like okay i got to get to know this hannah girl and then kind of after that i started being a little more mischievous and then i've just obviously continued like super like my My mom is very good at being like, you know, Dylan, maybe you shouldn't have said that. Or, you know, like, maybe you should say something, like, that kind of stuff. And I think that's why she's, like, she's just the best. She helps me, like, in terms of responding to all of this, like, she keeps me grounded for sure. If I, like, get too worked up about something or I, like, take something too lightly.
Starting point is 01:13:23 She's always good at playing devil's advocate. Like, it's not just a, I think it's an echo chamber or wind tongue or whatever it is. where like she just agrees with everything I say like 90% of the time she actually contradicts it which I think is good but she's also like understanding and how's my back no matter what like if stuff gets like I don't really get any like hate like that much but like when it does I feel like it's just like some people can be like really fucked up um and so like she's always good at at getting my back when it comes to that kind of stuff so but she also just like takes it in I think my family didn't really get exposed to it until maybe we were at the we're at this like polo match and people just kept coming up to Hannah and I and that's where my mom was like I think really understood how big of a deal it was going to be and then like when Kendall Jenner like posted us on her story I think that she was like wait people actually watched the show I was like yes mom watch the show um so no she she's been she's done really well I know she kind of like me where she'll call people out on
Starting point is 01:14:29 social media, which I'm like, Mom, maybe you should have me doing that. But no, she's been absolutely, she's just been like the best. She's my rock. So yeah, very appreciative. I, you know, Dylan, I'm not shocked that you, you know, the, as Ashley said, you've always been funny. You do stir the pot, which in like a healthy good way. I'm saying that in like a healthy, funny way. And to tell your brother and mom, hey, I'm not going to engage and then lean over to one of the producers. It just really does feel like you. Dylan, I know that was a great answer about, you know, Hannah, your relationship with Dylan's mom, which is really cool to see.
Starting point is 01:15:07 I wish they would have showed that in paradise. I think it would have added a depth to your relationship, but maybe it wasn't needed. But Dylan, again, I come back and Hannah, please add in where you can and where you want. During this time of craziness, how do we find appreciation? How do we enjoy these moments? Yeah, I think you're never, like we'll probably never have an experience like this again, hopefully for the rest of our lives, where everybody is just like quarantined to their house, you can't leave, you don't have pretty much any distractions.
Starting point is 01:15:40 and so at least we've been trying to like I try to talk to my mom every day talk to my brother every day like texts to my friends because I never I've been playing a lot of video games but that's like that's like with my my friends that I never get to see or like I never get to talk to which is like kind of been it's been really really nice to like reconnect with everybody and then just I think one thing like my cousin and I were talking about which I thought like for a business perspective it's always good but personally I think it's even better as we're focusing on like what could we work on now that when this all gets hopefully back to normal or like relatively back to normal that will be
Starting point is 01:16:19 better for it and so I think that's just like kind of what we're figuring out whether we want to learn something new that's like Hannah and I were talking about like learning a language or something like that and just something like that so like finding the the silver lining and everything is something that we're just trying to focus on and then like what you said earlier um it's very rare like that we can all spend this time without having to travel and everything like that just simply together and to have those moments of quietness or boredom and that's really rare and all of our lives in everybody's life and then on the other side of that it's just like trying to find a way to kind of use these platforms to possibly make a difference
Starting point is 01:17:07 through all of it. I was talking to somebody this morning, actually, about, you know, what I can kind of do to either bring awareness or to make change in somebody's life because a lot of people are laid off right now. A lot of people don't have jobs. A lot of people have families. And that's huge. I mean, as much as much, you know, as much as it sucks to be like, oh, I'm bored hanging out at the house. Like, what am I going to do for 30 more days? It's like there's people that are actually struggling with a kid wise are having you know with the kids not having meals at schools and things like that like that stuff is pretty wild and I know a lot of people are starting to like hop on the bandwagon and trying to make a difference but I know we're in the early stages of
Starting point is 01:17:50 talking about like trying to figure out things that we can actually do too you know what the two of you are spot on and I know I know that the two of you come from a place right now where as we were prepping for this podcast. I was like, I wonder what kind of ridiculousness these two have gotten into as they've locked in their houses. I can imagine it's a lot of cuddling, a lot of kissing, and not like your make-out kissing. Like they do do this thing where like they put their arms around each other and they just like, nuzzle, I would say. At least I've seen the nuzzling and they laugh a lot. I know there's a lot of joy in that house. But thank you for sharing that because I think it's been the message that I've heard that stuck the whole time is we all have
Starting point is 01:18:30 something to do in this moment and we can do something. Team, let's take one more break. When we come back, Ashley is going to just rapid fire some questions and some topics at you. We'll be back with Hannah and Dylan on the Almost Famous In-Deft podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.
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Starting point is 01:22:50 Yeah. Listen to this episode with Whitney Cummings and check out new episodes of bananas every Tuesday on the exact right network listen to bananas on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts i know that you guys said last month that you are not in the wedding planning phase right now you don't have a date you don't have a time does that still stand i we're we're moving closer to it i think now is kind of like made it an interesting time because we're like we're stuck the house we're we're like sending locations to each other back and forth um but a lot of weddings
Starting point is 01:23:32 are getting pushed out so it's like we have no idea how much long this is going to go because everybody already has those locations signed so like we're not really sure what it looks like but we're like we're starting it for sure the time off has definitely made it like a topic that can come up you know what I mean it's like oh what should we talk about right now and it's like well that would be fun but we're also not like again super rushing tell what else we're looking at oh houses we've been looking at houses for fun out here so we could possibly move in together at some point but we're not sure when but it's like kind of fun to like look and get an idea of what the just is so hannah you moving to san diego right maybe i don't know though he looks like he's celebrating he's won this
Starting point is 01:24:15 debate yes hopefully um even though you're not planning the wedding right now what do you see the wedding to look like is there a theme is there an amount of people what you think is ideal. Yeah, I think having carnival games is really important. No. And elephants. No. No, I think it's going to be, we learned from the engagement party.
Starting point is 01:24:36 Like, we tried to keep it really small. And it still ended up being what felt like 100 people. So I think the wedding's going to be like at least like three to 500 people because it's just like there's, there's. Wait, for real for real? Wait, how many people are you? Yeah, dead serious. A hundred and 80.
Starting point is 01:24:55 Yeah, I think we'll have at least 300 people. people. So we had a max capacity. So the max was 180. Yeah, I think we'll have at least 30. My parents had like 300, 400 people at their wedding. Holy moly. It's going to be a blast. I don't know. We got to, we got to maybe we can. I'm not excluding anyone. Like that are my friends. I feel like some of my friends didn't get to like make it, which is like sucked. But I'm like and I didn't think about it. We had all those people. I didn't invite my aunts, my uncles, my cousins. I didn't invite any of those people and like they were coming to the wedding so we could probably do like a 180 to 200 300 300 what do you see it looking like is it going to be modern is it going to be
Starting point is 01:25:38 boho what's your dress going to look like Hannah yeah I want to blow Dylan's socks off the water I want him to have no is that what is that the phrase blow socks off the water I think it's just blow your socks off yeah what water like sweat No, you did good, though. You did good. I wouldn't blow his pockets off. And I wouldn't have no clue. I don't even know what I like, honestly.
Starting point is 01:26:05 Like, I feel like I always have such a specific idea. But I've, like, dressed up so much that I kind of want to just, like, put one on and be like, ooh, like, I love this. I don't know. I don't want to be too picky because I know myself. And if I have one image in my head and I don't, like, get that, then nothing's to be good enough. So. Okay. So you don't want to date dream about it too much.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Yeah. I want through it to be greenery, some sort of greenery. Yeah. And some body of water. Do you foresee any bachelor people being in your bridal parties? Is that like the Bachelor party and Bachelor at party? Like that's... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Or being like a groomsman. Being a groomsman or a, yeah, bridesmaid. Maybe? I have 10 spots. already spoken for essentially from like the the guys that I grew up with so I like if Hannah could come up with like 15 bridesmaids then yeah but other than that probably not okay I don't know maybe I think it's just going to depend on how many like spots we have because I have so many like OG friends and then like relatives friends so we'll see do we foresee Hannah B and Tyler being
Starting point is 01:27:23 dates to this wedding um i don't know i don't what's why why do you say that what's happening with them i don't know it seems like they're spending a lot of time in quarantine together oh they are yeah where in alabama no i think it's florida Tyler lives in florida all right all right all right moving on um are you guys ready for rapid fire yes fire away please who makes coffee in the morning me Dylan for Hannah for Hannah he brings it to me in bed I don't drink very sweet who's a better cook depends Hannah's really good at breakfast I'm really good at dinner but she did make chicken
Starting point is 01:28:09 crock-bock tacos the other night that was also really good favorite thing to postmates um Ticayah I love Ticay oh I love the guys so much okaya Ticcaia Takaya or true food. Okay. I don't know true food. Is that a San Diego thing? No, it's like West Coast, Arizona.
Starting point is 01:28:31 I think they might have one in D.C. They're pretty good. What are your love languages? Physical touch, words of affirmation. I'm words and... What is the other one? I can't think of. Acts of service.
Starting point is 01:28:43 Yeah, acts of service. What are you? I'm the exact same as Dylan. Nice. Hell yeah. Yes. Yeah, yes. I'm like, I need you to initiate the touch with me.
Starting point is 01:28:55 Do you want to? I was like, it doesn't count if I initiate the touch with you. Or just stand there and I'll just like a hug on to you. I know. I like pet him like a animal all day. No, I've been doing, I do this to Hannah. Like, I'll rub her head to fall, like so she falls asleep. Anytime I need to fall asleep, I mean, I don't know how it.
Starting point is 01:29:15 We always talk about it. He'll rub my hair until I fall asleep and then you think it's okay for you to fall asleep. And then I can go to sleep. And I'm not even, like, rub my hair. He just does every night. And it's the best thing in the world. I love getting petted. That is super adorable.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Yeah, I give so much physical touch to Jared. I'm like, I touch his beard. I touch his back. It's like everything. What are Jared's? Jared's is definitely act of service, which he hasn't learned until, like, lately. I think that I give him all love like, which is so completely. He couldn't even figure out what he needed.
Starting point is 01:29:51 And then, like, he started thinking about, like, he was like, well, why don't you take the dog out more? And why don't you do the dishes? Why are you just leaving the dishes in the sink? And then I was like, oh, hmm, this man is an act of surface guy. Hey, hey. Yeah. So speaking of those pet peeves, what are yours about each other? Um, what's your response?
Starting point is 01:30:14 I don't have any. She's perfect. That's safe answer. Come on. No, I. It's not a pet, I feel like a pet peeve has a connotation. But like... Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:26 What's like an annoyance? Yeah. What really pisses you off? Exactly. No, when Hannah has so much going on that if I like add one thing, then the wheels fall off sometimes. Like last night, I was like, I'm going to go pick up the food. Would you mind picking a movie that we could watch? And then I get back and I was like, what movie were watching?
Starting point is 01:30:48 She's like, well, I haven't picked yet, but I showered, I cleaned up. I did the dishes, and I folded the laundry. And I was like, which is all very good stuff. But I just have a very, I have a very busy itinerary at not always the right time. Like, as soon as I do something, I'm like, oh, I should mark off all of these other things first. And then I don't get to what I'm doing sometimes. But. But we watched Insidious.
Starting point is 01:31:11 Yeah, it was terrifying. And my biggest pet peeve is probably, um. Yeah, what's your biggest pet peeve, Anna? Oh, that you, okay, here's one, that you always want me to bird with you, but birding scares me. Birding seems very scary. I would break a bone. But he's always, he has one. We have one, so it's like.
Starting point is 01:31:37 He's like, let's hop on the bird and go here. And I'm like, no, let's just drive. Together, the two of you on the same bird. We do it all the time. That would freak me out. I don't really enjoy it a lot. It scares me. What's the last gift?
Starting point is 01:31:51 you gave to each other um what what is the last gift i gave you like a wrapped gift for like yeah sort of or a surprise a treat i don't know what did you surprise me with well i just ordered you a circle mirror um on amazon that's true surprise surprise she ordered a circle mirror for the house And it was going to be a surprise, but then I ended up just telling him that I got it. Like Hannah was like, I don't have tools to hang up pictures, so then I just, like, would order tools to her house. Yeah. Okay, that's sweet. I told him, like, this one candle.
Starting point is 01:32:37 I was like, it smells like my house to me right when I got to L.A., and I was like... Yes, I got like 20 candles. He literally, he was like, okay, well, and then the next day, he was like, look outside, and he got me, he completely stalked you with those candles. and I literally started bawling crying because I was like oh my gosh like so scared about being in LA and everything
Starting point is 01:32:53 but he does like sweet things like right when it right when I need it that is so so cute what is the last show you guys binge watched Tiger King
Starting point is 01:33:04 Tiger King okay do you guys feel like he was as crazy I mean I'm not done with it I saw two episodes left you think it was just as good as everybody's making it seem well I mean
Starting point is 01:33:14 you're only what I mean you're four in the ending is the ending like the last two episodes i think are the craziest oh okay cool because that's what i've got carol definitely fed her husband to a tiger like that oh 100% that was the episode that got me the most so far yeah that one that definitely happened like 100 i can't wait until they make hopefully they make a movie well you know that they opened the investigation yes oh i'm stoked about
Starting point is 01:33:39 that i hope they're filmed 100% they have to film it they filmed it they didn't touch on this i wish they did the guy filmed the documentary for like five years like holy moly like all of that stuff went over the course of like five years i'm pretty sure like all of the film page and like joe exotic was not in jail when he first started filming exactly that's what i'm saying so like and or they they say it like the very beginning he's or it's like four years or something like that and i was like you should have talked about that more like this is insane yeah my last question for you i normally wouldn't ask a couple because i Usually the girl would be a given here, but I know that Dylan loves his suits.
Starting point is 01:34:22 So who has more closet space? Where? I mean, who like takes up more closet space? Like, who needs a bigger closet when you guys get a house together? Me. I mean, it's... Yeah. I mean, he, for a guy, I think, he definitely has a lot of clothes.
Starting point is 01:34:41 But mine is, it's an entire. Are you a room dedicated to your clothes, Hannah? Huh? Do you have a whole room dedicated to your clothes? I need to. Yeah. Yeah. You need a glam room like me.
Starting point is 01:34:56 It's the best. Oh, wait. I want to see pictures of your glam room. Oh, I'll send you some video after this. Yeah. Okay. I've got to figure that out. And I'm also trying to, like, deep clutter,
Starting point is 01:35:05 so I'm always trying to get rid of them and, like, donate all of my clothes. I did eight bags the other day, and my clothes still packed, but. Yeah. I've got a hook up for you in that case, too. All right. Well, you guys, thank you so much for participating in Rapid Fire. Yay. Thank you. This was another really great in-depth podcast.
Starting point is 01:35:26 As we've mentioned before, we met Hannah, Ashley, I don't know how long ago, a year, so a year ago, and she was in the Hall of Fame of guests. People loved her then. Dylan has brought joy and laughter to our lives since then. They've joined us during a crazy week and share their hearts with us. Ashley, you're awesome. You're awesome. I hope you're continuing to thrive in the midst of some chaos. We heard some dogs barking earlier.
Starting point is 01:35:52 Say hi to the pups for us. You're my face. I know. Hey, team, we'll be back next week with another episode of the Almost Famous Podcast. With that, I've been Ben. I've been Ashley. We'll talk you soon.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Bye, guys. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, Almost Famous Podcasts on IHart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew. Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD, oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes.
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