The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous In Depth: Jacob Rapini

Episode Date: October 21, 2022

Ben and Ashley are stripping down and baring all with Jacob Rapini from Gabby and Rachael's season and Bachelor in Paradise! We hear the real story of what happened behind the scenes with the Tarzan of Paradise. And we know Jill's side of the story, but now it's time to hear Jacob's take on the infamous "naked date"! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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who traveled in to Rhode Island to Audrey's coffee shop. They met Jared, but you weren't there. I think you had seven hours going on. Yeah. They did a live podcast from Audrey's. She's All Batch. Yeah. It's their anniversary episode today that we recorded.

And I came on months ago to hang out with them. And now today's their anniversary. So I came back and they said, hey, we really like Ashley. And then we talked a lot about your time on Paradise, which we're going to obviously talk about with Jacob here in just a second. And they're like, hey, we like seeing Ashley and Jared. We just didn't need to see Ashley fart so much. I mean, I'm sorry, guys.

I can't help it. They have a camera in our bedroom. Yeah, that's the way it is. Well, Ashley, let's just get Jacob on now. Chat with him about everything going on in Paradise. It's going to be fun and exciting. Jacob is in the room. Jacob, so good to see you again.

We had such a great time with you down in Paradise. You're such a character. You lean in to being a character, basically calling yourself Tarzan the entire time. Did you always think that you were Tarzan or is that something that the Bachelor gave you? I would imagine the Bachelor probably gave that to me. I've always thought of myself as someone who is a little bit wild. Like, I mean, I'm outside right now. But honestly, you can't choose a nickname for you.

It's got to be given to you. And I just kind of owned it. So, yeah. Well, you started out even on Gabby and Rachel's season as being kind of like the naked guy. you other than not like friends whereas the ugly naked guy you're the hot naked guy oh thank you yeah so like how were you always that guy amongst your bros no i was never the guy to go and take my shirt off i mean up until like two years ago i was kind of like chunky and i you know i didn't really work out and all of a sudden covid happened and um it was like to be honest i

I mean, COVID was obviously terrible for a lot of people. But for me, it was a time for me just to sit back, get in the gym, which again, the gyms were closed. So I just used my garage. And I just worked out in there every single day. And it became where I said, okay, I lost, you know, 15, 20 pounds, put on some muscle. And then from there, it was like, okay, let's just keep this thing rolling. You either went one way or the other during COVID. And I also got fit.

It was the best, it was the best shape I've ever been in. Ben, which way did you go? I got fit because I lived at my in-laws house for most of it and then my parents' house for some of it. And when you wake up in the morning and you're like, what am I going to do today? There's very few excuses not to at least try to go get active. My problem was I had more cocktails during COVID than ever before because there isn't like a good reason not to it, you know, whatever time the day. And so that didn't help my, my physique. But I worked out hard. I just, I don't know. I just don't, I just can't look like you, Jacob. That's the thing. I just can never look like

you. It's, I mean, to be honest, there's plenty of other guys on the show that were better looking to me had, you know, worked out even harder than me. I just, I feel like I just tried to own up to it. And, you know, it's funny. I was watching a, like, a clip from your guys podcast, probably like a few weeks ago and you're talking about me a little bit and saying like yeah jacob's the guy that's like the bachelor in paradise right now and it's probably because he came down and nothing but a leave you know it's like he's fun he's energetic he's crazy like who is this guy um and that's kind of what you know i may not be the most fit guy but at least i'm like the most energetic and i don't take myself seriously i think that's what kind of alert some people or gave some people like

some like oh this guy's actually fun you know he's not just a another you know guy that just is all about himself or something like that but here's here's my fall up to that because it can go one of two ways either somebody's going to be interested and intrigued and be like hey jacob's fun and he's into just having a good time or you can come off as the joke of paradise or the joke of the bachelorette so how did you walk that line and did you do it like come consciously? Like, did you intentionally try to say, hey, I, I, you know, am down for whatever, but I'm just not a joke here. So kind of how did you balance it? Good question. So, you know, it's hard. It's tough because when you come to that situation, you know you're going to be

putting everything out there, literally. And it was, for me, it was, it was just being real. It was just being real with people. Like, I mean, when I'm communicating with people, when I'm talking there. It's like, it is a funny joke at the beginning, but I knew that was only going to be one day of me wearing that outfit. And at that point, I said, okay, well, I'm going to be a real person, get to know these girls, and be a little bit deeper than that. Like I said, in the last podcast, I was on, you know, I have more facets. I have a lot of different strengths. And it's not just being crazy outgoing, but people could read through that. And I know even the guys were like, you know, they're joking around. But at the end of the day, they, we could have.

have a deeper conversation than that. Does it frustrate you that you do kind of look like the, I don't care what's going on, dude? No, not in the slightest. I own that part. I love being just the guy. He just doesn't, like, I'm just, like, I'm staring off into the distance and something, you know, like, I just don't, never, never really care for that.

Like, I mean, there's always been another person who's done it better than me. And I'm just like, all right, whatever. I'll just be myself. And that's me. Well, you're absolutely harmless, which I think is wonderful. Like, you're having fun. Tell Jill that. Even though Jill is seemingly going to get her heartbroken, and, you know, like, I know, like, I know Jill.

And I just know that she probably, she's freaking out now. But, like, you know, I'm sure there's no hard feelings that exist currently. Now, absolutely. Yeah. So it's like, I don't know. I just feel like you're just very playful. and sometimes play like and I just think that you're just genuinely playful okay what was the last time you took a relationship really seriously are we going to see that that with kate or are we going to still see more

paradise fun with kate sure and yeah that's the other thing too is you know coming into paradise i didn't look at any of the character i didn't look at any of the girls prior to i wanted to just come in there with you know an open open clear book open mind um and get to know everybody you know in that context of being there and you you both know that well then i'm not sure if you were on paradise but no um so that's that's a that's a thing about is you don't have a lot of time with these people um when you're there so you get into know that you know i'm i knew jill for less than a week before we went on our date and you know on paper we we really were a really great match and we and we still are i believe that jill is such an amazing person we

communicate all the time. I don't want to give away too much. But at the end of the day, after that moment, I was, I have always been the person who's going to go on the beach. And if I find my soulmate, I'm going to get a one knee and propose. But as you know, Ashley, it's hard. It's hard initially to find your person. You may not know if that your person is there before you do. And then you may, you may know later on, you're like, dang it, I wish I had pursued more. It's hard out there. And I did start to realize that later that I need to be more formal and be more intentional. But at the end of the day, I felt like I'm not going to lead anybody on either.

And that's immediately what I, you know, with how Jill and I were, it's like I'm not going to, I don't want to be the person to go out and cheat on you or something like that. I want to let you know and give it to you straight up. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.

Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same. same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants

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when you said, I don't wake up in the morning thinking of Jill. That's like a dagger for a girl. Do you regret saying that or, I mean, honestly, it's not really regretful. I mean, it's super, super honest, but it is just harsh. Yeah. That's another good question.

It was hurtful. If I could go back, I wouldn't say that. But again, I'm very honest, as you know from me on the Bachelorette and from this, I'm brutally honest sometimes. And you know what? I'm okay with people being brutally honest to me too. I think that's at least I'm not going to lead you on or ghost you or just not tell it to you straight up.

I'd rather give it to you. And that way we can, if we were a match forever, then I would, then I would continue to pursue you, you know, all the way. I'm, I'm either 100% or I'm a 0% guy. Well, I guess you can, you can argue that you were leading on Jill if you were still hanging out with her and not really thinking about her in that light. Yeah, that's the case, too, is, that's the thing about me is that I initially. I do. I do, look, I, I, I do, well, look, I want to, I want to have fun too. Like, I'm, and me being fun is me being playful and, and, and, like, and, you know, like, a little bit touchy-feely and stuff like that. Like, I'm, I'm okay with that stuff, too. But I don't know. It's just, like, in the back of your head, you're like, okay, is this forever? It's forever. Um, is this my person.

And sometimes you, you got to look back and say, like, I don't know. I really, It was so hard to do that, but I don't want to lead that person on. And I think maybe in that case, I did a little bit with Jill. You know, and we didn't have that, we didn't get to have a chance to talk before she left. You know, like, hey, if we get to meet other people, are you going to go and talk to these guys? Am I going to go talk to these girls? I'll be in kind of like that open relationship right now. We didn't have that.

It was pretty instantaneous when, when Jesse came in. So it's tough. I mean, that's where my question lie, because I don't know. And please, tell me that you did. But I don't see it as you leading Jill on unless you had these feelings before she left. Because you didn't get a chance to talk to her and confront her once the girls were gone. You had just moved on with somebody else. And we don't know how it's going to play out necessarily and how that conversation is going to look when she does come back. But when When Jill was the only person on the beach for you, were you having these doubts, did I miss this? Or were you having these doubts already? Yeah, Ben. So, no, I didn't have those doubts initially. But, you know, in the back of my mind, what I had said was partially true.

Like, do I wake up in the morning and say, wow, I'm ecstatic to see this person? Not really. not to 100 percent and i i know that's super harsh for jill because i i mean she is she is amazing person um and to be honest like i still have some feelings for jill in that you know romantic way um it's it's just really hard because she is such an amazing person i don't want to hurt her in any way um i just yeah in the moment you're having you're just you're living that paradise lifestyle and i guess i could have done it differently but it was it was so early to tell if that makes sense like I said we've we had been known each other

for a couple nights it was probably the best date I've ever been on the best first date I've ever been on I mean we got completely nude with each other and got into bathtubs and howled at the moon with a shaman like I don't I don't know how you end a relationship after that first date like what how in the world do you have that kind of first date and then you're like yeah I don't know if this is going to work out I know. They set you up to definitely, you're like, hey, you know, I saw what I saw. We did what we did.

And it's the best if we just try to date other people. Like, there was no good way for you to get out if you wanted to get out. Yeah, there was no good way for me to do it. And again, if we'd had that conversation prior to, I think I would have been a little bit more open with her and said, well, you know, I do really like you. but in this moment, let's just see how things go. If we have a connection with someone else, then take that. If you don't, then then let's continue and see where this goes. If I would, in a lot of lights, I'd still be open to having that relationship with Jill because, again, we get each other.

As you saw Ashley, like, we really do. But yeah, it's just, yeah, it's hard. It's definitely hard out there. Ben, you asked Jill about something biological during our live podcast with Jill about that naked day. Do you want to ask, yeah, you want to ask Jacob? Yeah, during a live podcast, I asked Jill, did you like what you saw, you know, from a biological standpoint, from a human standpoint? And she said, yeah, I did. Jacob, I'll ask you the same question.

Was that an, were you happy with what you saw? because Jill claimed at our live podcast that you told the guys yes oh absolutely yeah no 100 it was uh I tried to keep my eyes you know to a well chest level I guess but yeah that was nice of you yeah I was yeah okay it's yeah but again I did like what I saw and I did like what I I guess felt we she's you know she's beautiful she's definitely yeah she's hot I I I I have to ask you, man to man, though, Jacob. You don't go into too many details, right? We have a wide array of listeners here,

but they know what they're getting into by listening to us. If I was asked to be on that date and I found myself in the same position as you, I would be very nervous about life happening in that moment for me. And it getting really weird for not only myself, for my date, but also the 20-some people that are watching us, Was that a concern of yours? Are you, yeah, I guess that's where I can leave it. You know what I'm asking. Was it a concern? Yeah. Yeah, no, it absolutely was. I was, I was in the back, like, trying to think about baseball, trying to think about just other things. And in the same context, I was, I also kind of knew that there was five cameras and a bunch of people all staring at us, too. But at the same context, I was, I also kind of knew that there was five cameras and a bunch of people all staring at us, too. But at the same context, same time. So I'm trying to put my mind off of not thinking about Jill's body and think about, think about like, okay, let's think about other things. But there was moments where I was

like, okay, let's hurry up and get in this bathtub. Yeah. Jacob, you are saying that you still have sort of like romantic lingering feelings for Jill. Sounds like you really respect and like her as a human being. I don't know that somebody who ends up with somebody at the end of paradise would be saying such things. So I'm assuming that things with Kate may not be going, they may not be, you might not be ending in paradise with her. That's a safe assumption, I guess.

There's a lot of twists and turns in the rest of the season. I'll be honest. Like, this is a very wild paradise. And I, yeah, I wouldn't be saying that if, you know, if you're like happily with somebody, maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to alert anything too crazy. But, you know, again, I have a lot of relationships on this show. And again, like I said before, and I'll restate it again, I am there for the ultimate goal of finding a future partner. You know, in that particular case, we are in this same context, exploring, seeing who we match up with the most, who we truly like and want to spend the rest of our life with. Because when I do propose, I mean, I want to. be one time. You know, I don't want to do this. I don't want to do this two or three times or break things off, to be honest. Like, I want to have that ending type of relationship. So I'm going to explore. I'm going to see my options and kind of weigh those out. But sometimes I make the wrong

decision. I'm human just like everybody else. We all do. This is my first or second time on TV doing this. Am I the greatest at dating in real life too? Probably not. But at the end of the day, you live and you learn and you have to just do better the next time you know how did you feel about kate being so open this week about like just wanting to win and get the rows and stick around and like i'll do anything in order to like make it through the next week and it doesn't seem like she was like super into you as she was the competition yeah you heard it yourself i mean she she she was like she she basically said that you know she's not usually into guys like me um you know younger guys guys that look like they come out of a Marvel movie.

Was that a compliment? That was a compliment. I think I was a compliment, yeah. I don't think it looked like Thor. But anyway, so yeah, I think, I mean, look, at the end of the day, I think Lace was doing the same thing, to be honest, like probably just using me for a rose. And again, I love Lace to Death.

She's amazing, and hopefully things work out with her and Rodney and everything like that. but um not looking too great there anyway i just i feel like in this particular context like you don't know what someone's going to do and and someone could be leading me on as well and that could be what kate's doing right now um and i i just it this it's like what do you what are you doing the same in this space you don't you can't really tell with someone and when i'm talking to kate it's like all bubbly all You know, cute, like just a cute little thing. Like, and that's where I'm just like, okay, perfect.

And the funniest part about the whole thing is the show is showing us making out like for two and a half, three minutes. And I'm just like we made out two times in person. It wasn't like it was in, you know, all the time like, oh, we're just making out the whole time. And here's Jill, look at her crystals. It was like, okay, we made out one time. They showed the entire makeout session. and it just made it look like okay I'm just totally like

into this other person but in this I don't know it was just me being myself just seeing what so seeing what was there so would you say that you know to give a perspective on what was going on your head at that point in time as where we sit right now with the show and what we know as viewers um

did you feel stronger about Jill at one point or Kate like what was was Kate kind of the one for you Were you thinking this could be the thing that lasts you to the end? Like if you had to balance it out, where was your head at? Oh, man. Another good question. At the moment, I'm probably saying to myself, it's probably pushing towards Kate in that same context.

Kate is like, she has this just salesman mindset where she's very cool, very, you know, educated. And it just in that moment, and same with Jill, though. Jill's very, very educated as well. But I just, I felt like there was that spark too with, with Kate. And I was like, okay, let me just see what's up with this too. And again, when they take the girls away and you just have, you know, you solely with that other person, you look at both relationships and kind of weigh those out. And I was just saying to myself, well, I think if this and this is the, and even if Kate is not my forever person,

I'm still going to look back and say, well, that means that I'm probably. not 100% with Jill. And so in that same thing, you'll see next week what happens, but I don't want to lead anybody on. And I'm going to tell you straight up. But yeah, I was probably leaning more towards Kate in that moment, to be honest. We all can see that. Your chemistry with Kate was instantaneous. And with Jill, it took you a little bit. Yeah. We didn't, we didn't, we even start talking until, you know, week two or three. I know. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.

Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor. and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating.

He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast

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Okay. we have five more minutes with you. I want to ask you a few fun rapid fire bachelor and paradise questions. But first, as a mortgage broker, what's your advice for people looking for homes these days? This is not an ad either. This is not an ad. No, it's not. I'm truly curious. Feels like it. Do either you two need to buy a house? We just bought the house in June. And so like we're done for a while. Oh, man. Well, you know, right now is tough right now is super tough for people we have the 10 year treasury going through the roof the interest rates are astronomical compared to what they were about six months ago a year

ago so right now is i would hold off i think that's the that's the good play you don't want to buy a house at 7% interest rate um it's just not going to be beneficial to you even doing a cash out loan right now is just it's crazy but if you need the money you need to the money. So I'll also be honest, I'm not currently a mortgage broker anymore. I was going to ask if you still were or if that was ever your profession because The Bachelor likes to just slap on professions. No, no, I was a broker. I was a broker for about two years. That's why I moved to Scottsdale. The second show I knew I couldn't continue to pursue this. And after I got back from Paradise, when interest rates went up that much, it was, it was,

was so hard to have a refi market. We weren't huge into realtors at the time, so we didn't have a great relationship with them. So for me, it was like, how do I, what do I do? What do I transition out of this from and two? I ultimately want to be a multifamily investor. I think that's where the big cash flow is. So I'm looking right now for another job in, you know, maybe underwriting for somebody. So if you know anybody who is currently buying multifamily investment properties, let them know I'm available are you just cruising the the BIP wave right now until you find the job yeah yeah I am um I just want to have something that's a career like I don't want to because mortgages I was only I was working there for you know three years and now look at it I would

probably make half of what I was making before so I want something that's long term so hopefully that's with investing but we'll see okay good well good luck with that it sounds like you know what you're talking about i have no idea what i'm talking about so like anybody really i mean like yeah you know what i mean take that out take that out take that out okay wait yeah it sounds like you you know what you're doing um so good luck with that venture now i want to go into some fun rapid fire bachelor paradise questions okay ready what was your go-to order for food. Okay. Go-to order for food.

I loved the Ahi-Tuna, the fish, tacos. Probably would... There was a soup, and I don't want to go too much detail. It's like a fish soup. It's a saviche. It was like a savice, yeah. And I would have that just about every day

with a smoothie. What was your go-to alcoholic beverage? Quick story. I asked, I love margaritas. and I would always get a margarita from Wells and Wells one time made me a spicy margarita and he put fresh alipanos in there. I took one sip of this thing

and it was way too spicy and I handed it back to Wells I was like hey Wells you know can you make me something a little bit more a little bit less spicy like just a regular margarita and he like turns to me and he does something that I probably can't say on this podcast or even on live TV

whatever we'll beep it out he takes a napkin he rolls it up in his hands and he says next time just stick this up your wow thanks weld i appreciate a bit to go continue with my potty humor of bachelor in paradise where was your pooping room oh shit where was my personal pooping room did you have like a bathroom that you would go to for privacy or did you just not care and just go into the guys room no no i just go in the ocean you know like that's that's where you should not i'm kidding i was like a little bit freaked out there for a second oh joking no if i were to use the restroom it's i go wherever whichever restroom is open okay i don't i'm not

like freaked out about that okay what was your favorite daytime activity uh we uh favorite daytime activity was with the boys we would play tips in the pool which is like you have a Tips is where you take like a beach ball, or no, it's a football. You take a football and you have to, you have to jump up and catch it. Before you touch the ground with your feet, you throw it back up. And we're in the pool. Oh, okay. And so if you throw it to somebody, it's kind of close and they miss it.

They bobble it. Then they're out. And you go until someone wins. So we would all play that like every day. Okay. That's fun. Yeah. When the girls think we're cheating, that's what we're doing.

Okay. Lastly, if you had to be stranded on the actual desert island, with one of the girls, who would it be? And then if it had to be one of the guys, who would it be? Stranded on a desert island. I mean, at this point, it's probably Jill. Aw, that's so sweet. We would have a lot of good conversations.

You know, I don't know what else we would do on the beach, but if it had to be... I do. With the guy, Logan and I always meshed. We always had a good conversation. each other and we could always make each other laugh. So it's probably Logan. Well, great answers. Thank you so much for coming on. And we can't wait to see where everything leads for you. You are very fun to watch. Yeah. And you were very good to hang out with

in person. Jared and I really enjoyed your company. Oh, thank you so much. Ben, Ashley, thank you very much. Thanks for coming on. It's a pleasure. Hey, you got to follow along with us, so, Jacob. You're not done quite yet. Follow our lead with it. That's been a great in-depth Bachelor in Paradise episode with one of our favorites, Jacob. We'll be talking to you again very soon. Look for new episodes to be coming out in the next week.

Until then, I've been Ben. I've been Ashley. And I'm Jacob. I've been Jacob. That works, but that's fine. All right. See you guys. Bye. Follow the Ben and Ashley I,

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