The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous In Depth: Tyler Cameron

Episode Date: February 3, 2022

Ben is sitting down with Tyler Cameron while he’s at home in Jupiter, Florida to go IN DEPTH and learn about his life on and off The Bachelorette. Tyler reveals the truth about his state of mind after being on the show and he shares some unbelievable stories from his early life. Come find your “happy place” as we get to know Tyler Cameron! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Tyler Cameron, is this your first time coming on the Almost Famous Podcast? No, I've done, I think I did yours when I got off the show that remember the, like, I went up for the roast, my final roast ceremony. Oh, yeah. I'd thank you the next morning and did a show with you. And I believe that's when I met Ashley as well. That's pre-Tyler Cameron blow-up. That was like the limbo stage before life for you just exploded.

It kind of seems like. Life flipped quite a bit after that. Yeah. You're talking about heartbreak in the next week, you know, you're on the cover of every magazine in the world. Well, it's nice to have you, man. It's nice to talk about going on. Yeah, definitely, definitely.

So Ashley, she just had a baby, your co-host, right? Yeah, she did. So you just get me today. She's like four days past being a mom. Everything is good, everything's healthy? So healthy, so good. In fact, Jared and Ashley sent me a couple pictures two days ago, which is cool of them, because I'm sure they're getting blown up and of them holding the baby.

And it looks awesome. That's great to hear. That's awesome. So they're busy. You're busy. Okay, we have a lot to talk about today. We have about a half hour with you. If you can, you know, most of the in-depth that we do

are really you get to know the human behind the show. And you have a lot of, like I said, stuff happening right now. Who were you before the show started? Like, what was life looking like? Oh, man, I was a, I was just getting done my football career, you know, never made it, just a broke jock. You know, I tried to get, I was with, the Ravens twice got cut before I could ever make a hand of money and then um tried doing

a developmental league was doing you know working construction you know full time you know training from five to seven going to work from eight to four and then training and get from five to seven at night for six months went to the developmental league blew my shoulder I was like up there goes my football career went back finished my NBA started building houses had like 200 bucks to my name went in the show and everything just changed was this I mean at what point then did you say, hey, the Bachelorette's an option for me? It was actually like I was home studying, like doing my G.C. test or something like that. And I saw an ad for like the WWE or whatever.

And as a joke, I filled it out. You know what I mean? Like to sign up for it. And I sent it to my boys as a group in the group chat from Wake Forest. And they're all cracking up. Like, dudes, find more stuff to sign up for. So I found the Bachelorette thing. I sent the most ridiculous stuff in as a joke again.

And then it just kind of snowballed from there. So it was just kind of like something funny with the boys that kind of turned into all this. So WWE, did they reach out? Yeah, like six months after I was on the show. I'm sure they did. They're like, you got up hitting me. This is a home run. Yeah.

So as a kid, I always wanted to run around and read on these like Rick Flair, you know. So I would have went for it if they came first. Are there, has it been an option since then? Have you ever thought about it? We've talked before and stuff like that. It'd be fun, but I just have so much going on. not, you know, not there yet. I can't, I can't wait until like two years from now, who knows what life has brought

you, you're still thriving, and then the WWE comes, and I turn on my TV and trailers, Cameron's on TV, you know, dancing off the ropes. That, it's kind of what happened to me was Saturday Live. I was watching Saturday Live in my bed, and all of a sudden you popped up on it. And I was like, you got to be kidding me. This guy's everywhere. Yeah, that was just a random thing that turned out to be a lot of fun. So just take your opportunities.

you know, obviously, I don't know if there was anybody from the franchise who has made a bigger national name than you have coming from. And you know, and you weren't even a lead. I think that's something, too, is like, you weren't even a lead. You were on the show, and then all of a sudden your name is, it explodes, and you've done a great job of managing it and navigating it post-show. So you look back on this season. Does it feel like two different, you know, lives or have they all kind of came together? honestly that that seems so far away you know and i've gone through so much since then and and you know you've been in it you've been in the light before with that stuff

it makes you grow it makes you harden a little bit you kind of you know you know just changes you a little bit you know and and for better or for worse you know and but the show has you know given me tons of opportunity and i'm so grateful for what it's done for me because the show really changed my life changed my family's life everyone's life life, you know, my friend's life, too, you know, and just provide so much opportunity. But, yeah, it's, you know, it's definitely changed me, but I think it's changed me for a better person. I mean, do you look at the show with gratitude?

Yeah, complete, complete gratitude, you know, all the people I've met, everything I've went through, you know, there's definitely, you definitely go through some shit, you know, like you've, there's downs, there's ups, you know, like, I've never had anxiety until I came off the show. You know what I mean? Like, dealt with, you know, you saying one wrong thing. thing that messes with somebody, you know what I mean? Like, I never had like, ah, like, things like that, you know. And so that was definitely, because I've always been like a very happy, go lucky person. And then, you know, then he put all the scrutiny on every single move, you know, like,

I'm not perfect. I'm human. I do make every single mistake that everyone else makes, you know, and I'm going to fuck up, you know, that's just who I am, you know. And my dad always says you either learn whether it's going to hurt really bad or it's going to be really expensive. So, you know, I learned the hard way sometimes, but, you know, it's definitely also made me a better person and, you know, made me grow up a lot faster, too. Yeah, you know, I feel the same way. I was broke pretty much when I went on the show. And, you know, the show's been good to me, mostly because of the opportunities it brings.

And one of the other things that's been good, too, and one of the things I've admired about you from a distance is, you know, your friendships have seemed to stay close, something that was really important to me is one of the best pieces of advice I ever got when I came off the show was keep the people in your circle that have been in your circle in your circle post show and life you know you'll enhance your life but it won't change completely what are some of the things that you've done intentionally or maybe not intentionally to keep those friendships thriving and to keep those people around you yeah um you know you've gotten it been when you get off the show everyone wants to be your friend you know people you never met before you know

celebrities, whatever, everyone wants to be your friend. But the end of the day, like, the people I feel safe with, the people I don't have my back are, like, my people from back home. And the people who have always had my back, you know. And so my same friends are the same friends I grew up with. And that's who I try to keep around. I've made new friends, and I'm grateful for those friendships. But to the core of it, you know, my two best friends are Katie and Molly,

who have known since seventh grade. And, you know, I live with one of the guys I went to high school with, you know, like it's just, I don't know, they're the people who humbled me, keep me honest and true. and without them, I would, you know, I would, I would be lost. So I think it's so important to keep your home people, you know, the people that help, you know, see you grow up, watch you grow up, can check you, you know. And this is where everyone's going to tell you yes.

Yeah, do that, yeah, do that, yeah, do that. But you need someone to tell you no. And I got the people around me that tell me no. Has their view of you changed at all you think? I mean, does the way you operate with them change? No, I've, at least, you know, that's the one thing. like I've like my favorite compliment I've ever gotten from my friends like you're still the same old TC you know and like the same same same goofball idiot but also same sweet you know like I take care

of my people like it's what I have always been whether I have you know money in my pocket or I don't I'm gonna find a way to help take care of you know and that's just the person I am and my friends have always you know that's why we stick together because like we take care of each other you know it's not sometimes it's them taking care of me and me taking care of them and that's why I feel comfortable and safe with my friends. And it's, uh, it is. And I mean it when I say it. I think it's, uh, it doesn't always happen. Uh, you know, you've been around this franchise long enough to see how it can, uh, take people in, eat them up, spit them out. They're left looking left and right. Nobody's left there to stand anymore. And I think it's one of the cool

things from watching you is having those people by you, no matter where life's brought you and no matter where life's going. They're still there. Um, yeah. So it is a, I mean, it's a tonalum The song was a song lyric I live by, and it says, you're not on until all your people are on. And I believe it, you know, like, until, you know, I can be in a great place, but it's not good unless you can share with the people that matter the most to you, you know? And so, like, you know, one of my best friends, we run assaice stores together and we have two restaurants, you know? And so, like, that to me is like, is like when you start to make things happen, you know? Yeah. The U.S. Open is here.

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And listen now. What are some of the things that your friends have said no for it to you about? What are some of the things that you can look back on and be like, they were there for me? You know, just like talking me through situations, especially like when I'm going through something or something's coming down on me or, you know, or I'm feeling or, you know, just like bad news or bad press or whatever. They're able to walk me through it, talk me through it. And or, you know, there's been times where we're like, we're just doing dumb stuff. We're out, you know, having a good time.

Like, no, no, we're not going to do that. We're going to come up. We're going to bring over here. All right. All right. Come on. So, because I'll be honest, but I like to have a good time, you know. And so to my friends.

So, but they're also ones to protect me too in those situations. Oh, yeah. No, I need that. I need the friend handcuffs sometimes pulling me left and right away. We all need it. We all need a friend that can do that for us, you know? I would say so. So, hey, before we get into some of the stuff happening now in your life, you know, you and I, I think, have a similar, you know, safe space, like our happy place.

My happy place growing up was on the Indian River in Sebastian, Florida, on the inlet there. We'd fish it. My grandfather and his whole family always had a house there, and we'd go down and fish and just take the boat out. And one of the waves were small enough, we could actually out to the ocean. where's your happy space? You know, your life swirls around you 100 miles an hour. Where do you find peace? It's Jupiter, man.

It's home. It's being with my friends, being in my gym that I built in the garage, being on the boat, you know, it's, that's my happy place. Being with my dad on the job site, like, those things right there make me happy. And, like, I've found, like, you can do two things. You can feed your soul, you can feed your ego, you know? And, you know, New York's fun. And I have a blast of it.

I have great friends up there, too. But there's, you know, you can parade around there and party and go to all the clubs and the events and all that stuff. But that just feeds your ego. And that stuff to me is not very fulfilling. So I love it when I can come home, be with my people. You know, I have so much work down here now. I got houses I'm building.

Like, I just love being here. So, you know, especially it's damn cold in New York right now. So I'm really enjoying being here right now. But, yeah, Jupiter is my home. It's my happy place. This is like where I want to have a family and kids and retire and coach high school football one day. Yeah. You don't need too many more people feeding your ego.

People are pumping you up pretty high. You need some friends to just like, you know, put you back at center. All my friends is a joke on me. You know, that's why I come home. Yeah. It's healthy for you. It's healthy. Hey, before we get into the real dirty dancing, which I know is a big deal and something you're pumped about.

What is going on with your houses? I see it on Instagram. I saw the other day your grandma. was there, checking it out with you. That was your grandma, right? That's my Nana, yep. You're building some houses in Jupiter. Those are your houses?

What's going on? Yeah, no, I'm, I got my construction, my construction company moving and going now. I got four houses that I'm building right now, two are out the ground, two more in permitting, and then those are just speculums, and I have two more under contract with other people that were going to build for them. So six houses total. We're busy. It's exciting. Like, you know, these houses, I'm, you know, the spec homes I'm designing, you know, my dad's throwing his two cents in here. It's like fun. We have to work together on them now. But it's really, you know, me getting my hands on it and getting after it. And the market's hot

here, man. I hope it sells and hope it goes. So I want to keep doing this and keep growing it and see where I can go. Do you think this is the path for you? Like, you know, I think there's, I'm not saying you're there yet, because I have no clue if you are. But there's that moment, it happened for me last July where all of a sudden I have a pivot point where it's like, okay, do I want to invest into the things that are like more business related, less entertainment related, less, you know, front facing to the world and more behind the scenes. Do you feel like you're getting close to that point where entertainment is maybe not

the path, but like construction, you know, like you said, coaching football is? Yeah, you know, my dream is one day is when I'm 40 to stop everything. And just be a full-time dad and coach high school football and help kids go to college. But until then, I want to run it up with construction, entertainment. I want to, I mean, I would never, you know, I'm so up in entertainment world.

I love it. I have fun with it. I want to see where that world goes. But I also know that construction is something I get to share with my dad and share with my people down here. And like we take so much pride in it that it's going to, it's going to create a lot of opportunities as well. So, you know, dabbling both.

But I think longevity wise, construction is going be something that I want to stay in for a long time because everyone's going to need a house. Everyone's going to want to build and everyone keeps moving to Florida. So I'll keep moving and I'll keep building, all right? Florida is a hot spot. My parents just moved down there and I'm telling you, the market is hot. They get in the right time. Well, you have been busy.

You came out with a book this year. You're also, you know, your premiere of the Real Dirty Dancing just happened. Let's start with it. We're going to go out of order here, but let's start with the real dirty dancing. Do it. You're doing this. Well, first off, I remember, and tell me if I'm wrong, I think I remember your intro package on The Bachelor, you were like dancing through a house, right? It was, yeah.

Yeah, that was a thing. So has dance moves always, like dancing always been a part of your life? Is this something you've always enjoyed? Yeah, Ben, I almost flunked out of college my first semester. And my football coaches were like, all right, well, we need to get your GPA up. they threw me in dance classes and Ben, it was me and 30 girls in ballet, you know, how good did you not like it? Yes.

And so I loved it. I was the weird guy in the class, but everyone was so cool. I learned so much from everybody. And then I just kept taking it. I took hip hop. I took African dance. I took all movement for men. I took all these different dance classes.

And I was so close to getting a minor until my coach told me to scram. But I just like, I became so fun in dancing. And then I became the drunk guy on the dance floor always, like having the best time. Like, that was always me, even if I was embarrassing myself. up, you know. I always had a blast dancing and grab my friends. We'd all dance. So loved it. And then this opportunity came. I was like, heck yeah. I don't care what they pay me. Just get me out there. Yeah. And dancing with the stars was an option? No, they haven't come calling. So maybe they'll see my moves now. They might want to call me.

But, you know, speaking to Matt, that's a grind. Dancing with the stars is tough. Mm-hmm. No, it is. You know, it's interesting because I was watching last night, and I had no, I will say this, I had no judgment on how good I thought you'd be. I had no clue. You're a good dancer. Like, you are. Like, you've got moves. You're not embarrassing. You're being nice, Ben, but yeah, no, it was fun, you know, and like, we would learn, we'd get a dance, you know, we'd learn our dance at night before we had to perform, you know, like we'd have 24 hours to get it right. And it's testament to some of the coaches we had around us that kind of helped guide us a little bit. But, you know, the people, you know, we worked hard at it. We were sweating, we were grinding. Lonnie was an incredible dance partner. You know, we pushed each other very hard. And, you know, it was fun. And like I said, I guess those dance classes in college, I guess. just paid off a little bit. Yeah, you know, and not to switch fear is complete, but you did mention you're dedicating, doing this to your mother, who unfortunately has passed away. Why was this important to dedicate this to your mom?

Because she always was like the one who pushed me to take chances and do things. And this is something like you definitely, dancing is something you have to really just throw yourself out there and take a chance, you know, you can't hold back. If you hold back, you look like an idiot, you know. It's a very vulnerable thing to dance, you know. And my mom was always also the life of the party. And so she'd always be the one dancing.

And I'd always be the one joining her and having fun. And so, you know, just like if she was here, she'd be so, she'd be having so much fun watching this with me. You know, so I knew like going, like, I remember the first time we went out and did like the dance. And like, we were all like just to see who we're paired up with. I was kind of like nervous. You know, I was like staying inside, you know what I mean?

Like in a box. And, uh, And we all went away. I was like, man, tighten up, man. Make mama proud. Go out there and dance like you're supposed to dance. Just cut it loose. And after that, I was a changed dancer.

I was out there giving it, having fun. And so we just live by me and my brothers. We always say make mama proud. And she wouldn't be proud if we were holding back. That's for sure. Is it emotional for you at all in that moment? Yeah, you know, because, you know, if I catch myself slipping ever, I'm like, man, would mom be proud of this?

Well, you know, make mama proud. I made mama proud. And, you know, when I was half-ass dancing, you know, it was like, come on, man, get right. You know, definitely talking about it, got emotional, you know. But, you know, it's something I've learned to live with and now just learn to honor her, you know, through all this. You know, it's, I don't know. I can't say it's unfortunate, but it's unique to be in a public spotlight, kind of at the peak of your notoriety and something like this happens. For anybody listening out there, and there's a wide range of people,

and I'm assuming some have lost somebody close to them. We'll keep it with that. What's your advice to them? Like, how could you speak some truth into them to help them feel less alone? Yeah. First of all, like, don't isolate yourself. You know, that's definitely the easiest thing to do is isolate yourself, but you're just digging a deeper hole.

As soon as that happened, all my friends surrounded me. You know, and we just stuck together and we stuck together. And there'd be times where I would try and step out and do something with them. And then I'm like, no, this isn't feel comfortable. And they take you back to, you know, home and make sure I'm good, you know. So surround yourself with the people that love you and you love them. You know, that's definitely one. And grief comes in waves, you know.

You're good one day and then next day something comes up or reminds you of something. And, you know, and it hits you. But that's a beautiful thing. And, you know, there's a song from Ed Shearion. And he says the heart that's been broken is the heart that's been loved, you know. And the reason why you're sad is because that person loved you and you love them. And, you know, it's a beautiful thing. And so it's just trying to learn how to get perspective on things because it's definitely tough to see the bigger picture.

Yeah. You know, it's we mean my dad still think about like, damn, I wish he was still here. I wish he was still around to see this or to see that, you know, she'd be having a ball. But that's how life is. And you just got to learn like life is fragile, life is gentle. And every interaction you have could be your last. So just make the most of it. Yeah, it's tough, though.

And, you know, we've never able to talk, but, you know, I'm sorry you went through that, but I'm also, you know, you've been a good example. Again, it's so, it's so crazy to me how somebody like you who can come on the show, life changes, you know, you keep, like you said, you keep, you keep mentioning your friends here. You keep mentioning the people you surround yourself with. And I would really believe from an outside perspective, that's probably one of the reasons why you've been so successful is because you have that safe place to fall back on

and that place to come back too. And so credit to your friends. Shout out to the group of people around you. I mean, it's easy. You get in this world and people who all want to come into your life and I've taken bad advice. I've gotten burned, you know, all this stuff. And it just reminds you who's got you and who's important.

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So back to the show then a little bit. Why should people tune in to the real dirty dancing. Why would people enjoy this? I want to watch it. Give a little shout out here. Yeah, no, I think this show, one, is just so lighthearted.

I mean, hey, if you're watching The Bachelorette, you're getting torn and beat up all the time. The drama, come watch their dirty dancing, you know, where it's soft, it's fun, it's lighthearted. It's just, it's eight people having a blast, you know. And we're recreating an iconic movie. You know, we're doing the scenes. or dancing, we're giving it or all.

But you also see people grow so much. I think one of the greatest stories is Bree Bella. And, you know, where she comes from the beginning of the show and to where she gets to the end of the show, you see her grow so much and, like, start to just embody who baby is and even more so herself. You know, she's like, I've been a mom for so long. I haven't felt sexy.

And she just kills it. She's so sexy and so amazing. And, you know, Lonnie, the same, you know, she goes out there and just, shows you can do you can be anybody and anyone and go out there and dance and have a good time and cat you know she's been a mom of six and just like finding herself again and just so many cool stories and angela you know being this little christian girl and and and but boom now i'm dancing doing all this things and just being sexy it's it's okay to be sexy it's okay to have

fun and uh yeah and i got my shirt off a lot so yeah yeah they always find a way to get my shirt off Ben. I was going to say you can keep putting that back on. I have a wife on Instagram as well, and I'm trying to protect her from people. You have a beautiful wife, Ben. She's got a great man. You're good, man. Congratulations on all that, dude. Hopefully, hopefully I'll be following your footsteps soon and all that. Yeah, it is worth it. It's incredible. But I'm nervous for the day that she looks at me and she goes, hey, there's these muscles on Tyler's gut. And like, do they exist for everybody? Because I haven't seen them on you yet. I'm nervous.

It's all right. It's all right. You're doing just fine, I think. I believe so. We're thriving. Well, you know, the show is super fun. And I do think you see the stories unfold as you watch it. Just as we close up here, you know, I saw on Instagram today.

You called it the summer house. I think it's summer camp. Summer camp. So behind the scenes, even. When the cameras are rolling, you're on the dance floor. Were you guys growing together in the show? Oh, we were having a blast. Even the dancers, you know, that worked the show became like so close with us.

They were so amazing and they were just such like someone for us to lean on when we're going like when we're struggling, dancing or whatever. But I mean, once cameras were off, there was like an arcade and we put a boombox in the arcade and people were dancing and drinking and just having a good time, getting to know each other. It was legit summer camp. You know, we'd go, we have bonfires. We'd wander all over the place. we had so much fun so like it really was summer camp and like I hate like like when we left

I hated being gone I wanted to come back and hang out with everybody and go back to summer camp so maybe maybe we'll have dirty dancing too we can go back to camp so that's right yeah it's crazy too and it's really cool to see parents let loose a little bit uh you know they have the place the environment well you also have a book uh that I wanted to make sure to mention you deserve better is is the title uh what made you want to write this book and then why should people pick it up? Yeah. You know, the whole part of this book,

you know, the reason I wanted to write it is I wanted to have a conversation. You know, when I got off the show, everyone was freaking out about fantasy suites and, oh, Tyler is a feminist king and all this show. I'm just a guy. And like, you know, going through all that

and seeing all this, you know, stuff written up on all these websites and all that stuff. I'm like, I just did what I hope my brother does with every other guy. All my friends, you know, help all of them do. It was like, no, there's no respect of respect, you know. And so I wanted to create a conversation about consent and all these things. And then the book just kind of grew from there, you know, and, you know,

respect's always been a big thing with my dad and my mom. And, you know, I felt like, you know, there's something to need to be talked about. Because if I'm getting all this page for the bare minimum, then we have a long ways to go. And so I wanted to kind of create that dialogue and start that talk and so that everyone does deserve better. That's right, man. Well, continue just thriving. We're wishing the best here. I'm wishing the best, man.

Thanks for joining us today. Thanks for sharing your story. Again, you can go check out the Real Dirty Dancing, featuring many, but also featuring Bachelor Nations, Tyler Cameron, and also the book, You Deserve Better. Tyler, just to send us off here, for any listeners out there, what's on your heart today, what's on your mind, what do you want to share with them as we say goodbye?

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