The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous OG: A Gold Mine with Golden Tate

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

Bob Guiney and Trista Sutter are back in the trenches and connecting with Trista’s Special Forces co-star, NFL player Golden Tate! Trista and Golden know each other from the World’s T...oughest Test, but Bob reveals that he and Golden have met before! You won’t believe what brought them together! We hear all about Golden’s experience on Special Forces, and he shares his predictions for the Super Bowl!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
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Starting point is 00:00:58 To give you the answers, and you still blitzers. The Puzzler. Listen on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Humanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness. Psychobabble Yes, yes Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you
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Starting point is 00:02:09 This is the almost famous podcast with IHartRadio. Hello, everybody. We're reunited. Bob, we're back. AFOGs are back. Reunited and it feels so good. I love it. I've missed you, T-Bone.
Starting point is 00:02:27 I mean, right? I was so sad. I kept seeing all the social media posts and I'm like, oh. I know. It actually started the week before, though, when I went to Dallas. I think you had to do three or four interviews without me.
Starting point is 00:02:40 I missed Marion Jones. I missed the other two D.S. Jordan. Yeah, I missed Jordan. You missed Rudy and Billy. You missed my recap with Christy. You have been a traveling fool. I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:02:57 all of them were amazing honestly i had such good conversations with everybody i mean it's no shock like i love all of the cast members or the cast recruits on this season and of special forces and it was just it's been so fun to talk to everybody so i'm so glad that you actually get to be a part of this one finally you get to be a part of one of them i know me too and so let's recap now so So we know every, let's go through everyone that's left the show so far. So we've lost, Stephen, Stephen, Denise Richards, Denise, Ali, then of course, yours truly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Then after that, uh, Jordan, uh, Nathan Adrian and Marion Jones. Marion, Landon. A lot of those are all, a lot of those were medical, too. Yes, a lot of them were, were medical. Um, and Golden is still in it. Golden's still in it, yep. So let's bring him in. I'm so excited to talk. Let's bring them in. I cannot wait.
Starting point is 00:04:02 I have not seen Golden Tate in quite some time, but I'm a big fan for many reasons. And I'm excited to touch base them and share those. Hello. What is up, Golden Tate III? Hello, hello. How are we doing, gang? We're doing great, man. We're doing great. Great to have you on the show. Thank you for joining us. My pleasure. I was actually just watching your podcast with Nathan.
Starting point is 00:04:26 And you got me laughing. Yeah, it was, it was great. But I love that you guys both agreed that it's time to get everyone of every ethnicity in the pool. Amen to that. Yes. And I couldn't agree with you more. I mean, it's, it was a great topic to have with him, though. He's such a thoughtful guy.
Starting point is 00:04:43 He really? Yeah. I didn't spend enough time with Nathan, but right away, like, we just kind of hit it off. And, like, I spent a lot of time with him in the vans going to the different missions. and I just really enjoy, like, picking his brain. We're kind of in a similar space as far as, like, new babies into our family, trying to figure out the dynamic of how to be a good dad, but also our sport is kind of done and trying to figure out how to manage that
Starting point is 00:05:09 and find our new purpose. And so we had some really good conversations, and he's just a sweet, sweet, big teddy bear that was always happy. Yeah, he seems like it. Golden, before we get too into stuff, I want to remind you how we've met. I first met you with Scott Fitterer many years ago when you were with Seahawks. He's one of my best friends. And he was like the director of player personnel.
Starting point is 00:05:32 And then we met, Jermaine introduced us to play with my buddy, Dave Ross. And we played golf a couple of times with Dave. Do you remember Dave? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I'm usually really, really, really good with faces in this case. So I logged as like, man, that name. I know that name from somewhere. Yeah, he was like a, he owned an insurance company out in Seattle and was like,
Starting point is 00:05:55 mutual friends, and we ended up playing golf a few times. And, man, you are a stud on the course. When they told me that they're like, yeah, well, Golden wants to, you know, wait a little bit before we do the interview because he's finished up around to golf. I'm like, not a surprise, man. The guy could crush it. And then the last time we met, the last time we met, I'm going to show you something. I have a three-year-old. And from watching videos, the last time we met was when you were in Detroit and what my three-year-old's jersey is. Oh, stop.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Look at this. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, it makes me so happy. I mean, it's honestly, it's so funny. I was like, he's like, I love gold. I'm like, how do you? I mean, okay, you know, I guess it's just like watching videos and watching old stuff and, you know, because I used to do a lot with the Lions franchise when, and now, of course, this year, you were one of the voices of the Lions in the preseason, too.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yeah. Yeah, so did some work with them and had some fun, but man, calling them games is hard. It's not hard because I'm talking about football. I know football at the back of my hand, but talking football and trying to articulate it. So I'm not talking down to people, but also articulate it where they can understand what's going on is like a gift in it. And so like you listen to Troy Aitman and Joe Buck and they make it sound easy, but it's a true gift. So I've been in the lab trying to grind it and figure out where that space. You know who I love is that?
Starting point is 00:07:28 I mean, I'm sure it's got to be tough. But I think someone who really made a quick transition to that is Tony Romo. Like from a from a, some people don't like the intricacies of the game that he gets into. But I really do, you know, because I played at Michigan State years ago. And so in my mind, it's like taking me back to what could have been, you know? Yeah, yeah. Much like this show. Yeah, well, much like the show.
Starting point is 00:07:51 So, Trista. What could have been? Let's get into it. I talk about this all the time. I'm always like, man, this is the show I wish I could have been on. She's like, well, they might still call you. I'm like, yeah, but after watching it, I don't think I could do it. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Where do we even start? Yeah. No kidding. Well, actually, I'd love to start with just how you got approached, how you decided to actually do it. Yeah. So I'm actually out in Bend, Oregon at the time, and I met a wedding with my wife, one of her best friends, it's getting married out in Oregon. And I get this text message, and, hey, would you be interested in being on Special Forces
Starting point is 00:08:32 as well as tough as tests? At this point, I hadn't even really heard of the show, definitely hadn't watched it. And so I was like, oh, yeah, you know, whatever. So kind of forgot about it. And then a day later, while I'm still in Oregon, is like, hey, just, you know, the emphasizing the message like, hey, make sure you've seen this and stuff. Like, uh, whatever. So I ended up like watching a few like seconds, like teasers and trailers and half
Starting point is 00:08:55 in the episode. I was like, oh, okay. I feel like I could do this. This could be fun is what I think I said, fun. So, you know, we negotiated back and forth and eventually I had my mindset that I was going to do it as a nice, fun, little challenge. And then I dove right into it. Now, I only had about three.
Starting point is 00:09:15 weeks before it was time to like, you know, go to London and Wales. So I didn't have much time to prepare. And boy, it was a rude awakening when I got there. I showed up thinking this is going to be fun. And from the very first moment, they took those potato bags up our faces in the middle of the water. Stuff got real. Real quick. I got PTSD almost, like thinking about some of the stuff, but, you know, it was kind of like anything, you know, I had his ups and its downs. I will definitely say it was the hardest thing I've ever done because it was mentally, emotionally, and physically very, very tough. And in most jobs in the world, physically you might have a tough day, maybe emotionally, but mentally you're probably okay. But you never have,
Starting point is 00:10:08 like, all three of them boxes get checked out daily. And they, found a way to check those box every single day and it was just kind of wearing you down and like the psychology of it they were so they were really good like at placing different things in our minds like day seven is when they they or eight or whatever they have us they show us videos of our family um if they would show these videos on day one or two we probably okay okay whatever but day seven where we were thinking like people looking for a reason like to get out of here because it's hard and we know it's just going to get harder and harder each day um so you know for me those three things just made it tough yeah yeah it's tough i mean the same thing i've i've said
Starting point is 00:10:57 it over and over again hardest thing i've ever done um i noticed in your pre-interview so when we when we're in London before the show starts, we do all the interview stuff. And they ask us a billion questions of like, what if this and what if that and what if this, right? But what I noticed in your pre-interview, I kept getting drawn to one of your necklaces that was around your neck. And it looked like it was maybe made by little teeny tiny hands. Can you tell us the story of your necklaces, but especially that necklace? Yeah. Um, My daughter, London, who is now seven, he was six at the time, knew we were getting ready for this big trip, but me and my wife kind of censored her from, like, what was going on because we started to explain it to her, like, Daddy's about to go to the show. And right away, she was like, she saw like 10 seconds.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I was like, no, Daddy, I don't want you to go. Like, you can't go like, Dad, just don't go and tell them you can't do it. Say you're hurt. And I was like, oh, no, no, make it back. And then the day I left, she gave me this necklace that I put on as I'm like in the car head to the. the airport and I'm already like getting emotional like man because I just don't want to leave my babies but also not have any contact with any of my family for however long I guess now we know that I was there for at least 10 days um so I was kind of nervous frightened had a little anxiety and
Starting point is 00:12:26 so I put that necklace on and it was weird because it gave me comfort whenever I would look myself in the mirror I would see you know my reflection I would see my family who I was representing And I had a real deep pride to, like, make them proud. And so it was a good reminder, like, when things got tough, like to just look down and know that my little ones who love me for just me, they don't really care of the outcome. They just care that daddy comes back home and gives me a big hug. And so it motivated me. I love that. I figured that one of your kiddos made that necklace, I'm like, I just have to hear the story.
Starting point is 00:13:07 And I do have to say, if she listens or if you want to just tell her and tell your wife, tell your kids, first of all, I'd love to meet them at some point someday, but please tell them from me that for sure they should be so proud of you. I mean, obviously, it speaks for itself, like you lasted as long as you've lasted so far and you've done such amazing things. but the fact that you really truly kind of took care of people like me who I just couldn't do stuff. I just couldn't carry my pack and I couldn't run and I couldn't, whatever, all these things. And instead of just, you know, forging towards the front and focusing and keeping your head down,
Starting point is 00:14:02 you were always looking out for the little people like me. So thank you from the bottom of my heart. I like one of the main reasons I wanted to have you on the podcast, and I know I've said this in person, but I want the world to know that you just have such a huge heart, and I don't know if I could have, I don't know if I would have stayed for the just two short days that I stayed had you not been there.
Starting point is 00:14:25 So thank you. And they should for sure be so proud of you. Oh my gosh. Thank you so much. I know we, I really enjoyed my time with you and everyone else. And I was able to acknowledge that, you know, maybe I'm going to be physically stronger than other people. And I always felt like I had more in the tank. And I went into, I went into this like with a mindset of like, hey, look, there's no like clear winner in this.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Like there's not like we make it to the end. We get like this huge big paycheck or anything. It's just like you pass it or you don't. And like my goal going into is like, hey, I want everyone to go as far as they possibly can. And so if I can provide any physical help or mental, emotional support, I'm going to do that. And because it was always better with us in numbers. And so, like, it truly, it truly hurt when, you know, when you finally tapped out. But I was really proud that you, you know, each and every mission you fought as long and as much as you could.
Starting point is 00:15:24 And I was really proud because you could see, you could see and feel that Trista was given everything she had. had, even when she didn't have any left. She was trying her best. And, you know, eventually you walked away and it made me sad. Oh, Golden. That morning, I feel like had it not been so chaotic that morning, I would have stayed. Like, it was just so chaotic with the, like, gun shots or whatever was in the trash can. It was just so stressful.
Starting point is 00:15:56 And I was like, I just, my body told me last night that I, It was at its limit. And now mentally, I'm like, I just can't do it. And you looked at me and you said, I told you, I pulled you aside and I said, I'm going to go. And you said, are you sure? I said, I was like, yeah, I just don't want to be a burden anymore. And I feel like you've given enough of your time to me that I want you to focus on your journey. So, yeah, I was ready.
Starting point is 00:16:25 we had i hey i was i was prepared to help you through the next day and the next day as much as i possibly could um but you know i know and you made it back safely and healthy and hopefully mentally in a good in a decent place um we definitely miss you um but hey i look i get it you know that that one song that our kelly song that we don't really want to use his name too much but you know that song my mind is telling me no, but my body, my body's telling me, yeah. That's how I was on that, on that, it was on that mountain a few times. Like, I can like, golly, I don't know if I can do this. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:17:15 My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy?
Starting point is 00:17:38 That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Starting point is 00:20:29 on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so I also want to draw attention to one thing that I really noticed watching. the last episode. And that was, you know, when we got to the bridge the first day, the bugs were bad.
Starting point is 00:20:55 But they were nothing like when you guys got back to the bridge to do the breakman thing. Was it so hard to deal with that? Like, how did you deal with it? Was it something that was a problem and they just didn't show you guys dealing with that? Because I was like, holy crap, they are swarming around Billy and anyone who was down waiting to be the breakman or whatever. Yeah, it was gnarly. It was so gnarly both times when we did the jump, but also the breakman. And nonstop just smacking your face, swatting them away for several hours.
Starting point is 00:21:31 And you were like hoping that a breeze would come to just like them go somewhere else. But they just kept picking at you. And I remember on the breakman, when we got back to Billy, who was at the bottom, and I kept like trying to get him out of here. Get him out of. He's like, what do you scared of? They're just bugs. I'm like, man, these little things bite
Starting point is 00:21:49 and these little red marks actually. But, you know, stop swatting your face. I thought I was going to get in trouble for fidgeting again and get stuck in it again, which I was pissed off that they did not show that in episode one. No, okay, you need to tell everybody about it. Please tell everybody about it right now. Okay, so day one, day one,
Starting point is 00:22:09 we finally get back to the living quarters after getting thrown off a boat and having to swim like a triathlon or something. And we hike, we finally get back, and Billy makes a comment of like something that we're doing wrong. And I just like quickly like kind of pull up my shirt down and make sure I'm like in uniform. And next thing, you know, number nine, stop fidgeting. You will be punished for that. I'm like, dang, the worst you don't want to hear.
Starting point is 00:22:37 And everyone like straightens up, but I get called out. And then eventually everyone goes to the to see the living quarters, the mess halls. the showers or toilets and whatnot. Number nine, come with me, and they put me in what we call it as a group, the chicken coop, okay? The chicken coop is probably, what, two feet underground and probably two feet above ground.
Starting point is 00:23:00 So it's high enough where, you know, I can't, I can stand, but I can't, like, fully stand up. So I have to, like, I don't know, it's like a child's pose. Like, when a child, like, sits and he's pooping his diaper or something like that, I was like, well, I can sit there for like 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:23:19 While everyone's like just jogging around camp, and it became kind of like a fun little game for me. I was like, man, maybe I could get one of the recruits to look over here and, like, see me like acting like a chicken. And I got a few people. I remember Brody, like, looked over and he saw me being goofy. And so he didn't want to laugh. So he was like, look straight ahead again, but smirked.
Starting point is 00:23:38 And I think I got a few other people. But I was like, dang, I get in trouble as soon as we get on. to camp, but they didn't show that. They didn't. I actually pointed it out to Ryan. I was like, that is the chicken coop and where Golden had to squat. Oh, my gosh. Not sit.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Like, not be on your knees. You were like, you described it perfectly with a kid pooping in their diaper or something. That had to hurt. Buddy, I played football for 12 years, okay? These knees and ankles and toes. have been through some things putting on them boots and then getting stuck in a chicken coop that was brutal oh my gosh and not only were you hiking but you were carrying somebody else's pack and yeah you had a pack in the front the pack in the back yeah 80 pounds even not the weight
Starting point is 00:24:37 I guess but I mean I could not believe like that's how we started it off bad I was like dang that is crazy oh joy I was I was gonna say you know one of the things I thought was we were talking about like even the episode with Trista the two episodes of Trista I was so emotional I'm like texting on the side I'm like man I'm just so proud of you guys you know and I feel like even though we've only met a few times I always felt like I knew you but I I will say this I think one of the things that this show has done for a lot of the people that have been on this show not that they need it is that it's really highlighted things that people wouldn't know about you otherwise right like everyone knows you've been a
Starting point is 00:25:12 stand out since high school college pros the whole bit. But they didn't know that you had the ability to really kind of go deep, you know, and you did. I was like, like you and Brody in particular were two people that I've known for years from different things. And watching guys on that show, I was like, oh my God, I feel like I just, you know, and you were right, like the different levels that they go to with you guys and how they get you there. But you weren't afraid to go there emotionally, which I thought was pretty crazy. Yeah. Thank you. And man, well, thank you so much for noticing that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I kind of went into it, like, my foundations worked closely with our military veterans. I've always thought our military veterans are like real-life superheroes. Yeah. I understand the sacrifices that they've given for our
Starting point is 00:25:58 freedom. I visited Frankfurt, Germany, and Kuwait on the U.S.O. tour, I've always pay homage, and the NFL has like months dedicated to our military, and I've spent a lot of time with them and heard stories but I've never had a chance to actually live it
Starting point is 00:26:14 and we probably only live a tenth of what they actually go through and all six recruits we knew that we were going back home at some point and we knew it's going to be within right now or in 10 days and that's not the luxury that they have like they were out there not hoping that they were going to go home and so I guess the point I was making is that I took myself mentally to a place that in every scenario I was going to try to envision that I was a man or a woman serving our country and what it was actually going to be like. Because I really wasn't worried about dying.
Starting point is 00:26:48 It really wasn't worried, you know, I don't like heights, but I know that I was not going to die on jumping off a bridge. I wasn't claustrophobic. I do hate the water. They didn't tell me about it. I wasn't really scared of like any of that. And so I was able to take myself before, before, after during every mission, like, man, what would a soldier actually be thinking right now? Just those thoughts kind of made me, like, get really emotional and tear up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:15 I mean, you were compassionate to everybody. It was, it was really cool, man. I will say, you know, being, I think Q, when we had Q on, we talked about this a little bit, Trista, was, you know, you get used to watching everybody from afar, right? Especially with NFL players and stuff. And you think you know them, right? Like, you think, you know, I would think your touchdown dances and, you know, your posts, I'd be like, oh, yeah, he's a funny guy. He does this and this. But then when you see in those moments, and it's like, you know, oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:27:40 They're just a person just like me. They're going through the same emotions I'm going through, you know, or whatever. And it was really, I thought it was a really great thing for you, especially the way that you embrace that side of it. So I'm sure that's got to be something that challenges a lot of the professional athletes to go on there. Absolutely. Absolutely. And so thanks for seeing that. Yeah, absolutely, man.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I was proud for you. Like I knew, like I knew you, but yeah. But Trista, man, I still say this to this day. Trista, on that show, to see someone who I've known now for 20 years very closely to go through the things that she went through and just to push to that next level, I was impressed, Trista. I really was. You know, I think I've told you, but it really is the truth. You did great. Thank you. I mean, I feel like the two days is nothing. And actually, I don't know your, you know, we have to wait and find out how long you last, if you last until the very end, Golden. But for, me, you know, coming home, I was at, you know, I was at such a peaceful place when I left. I was like, it's the right time. But I have thought, like, maybe I should have pushed through and kept going, you know. And then there's this battle, you know, back and forth. But, gosh,
Starting point is 00:28:56 the two days is nothing, I feel like, compared to what you guys have done. The being freaking buried alive. That'll only get me. I mean. So, um, so. I don't know what if you've had any experience with reality television, but obviously I have a little bit for, you know, 20 to whatever years. And I know that producers are going to ask you, if they ask you certain questions and you answer them, they're going to use it against you. Yeah, you know, against you. So when they asked what our biggest fears were, I did not mention being buried alive was one of them.
Starting point is 00:29:35 And I can't, just because I knew, okay. Okay, maybe they'll take that and run with it and I'll actually be buried alive and I didn't want to give them that information. And you guys actually did it. I think that would be my worst fear. Was that one of the worst tasks for you or were you able to just mentally like zen out and deal with it? So when we showed up to this, I can't remember, were you there for the Buds training? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so when we showed up to that same location,
Starting point is 00:30:07 of the bus train that my heart stopped. I was like, no, no, no, no, not water again. Not water again, please. I can't do this again. And then it was like almost like when I heard, when I figured out we were getting buried, it was kind of like, okay, I can deal with this, which was okay. Yeah, because it was like physically, you know, I'm not going to get crushed. Now, what was hard for me, again, was like once we got in that box,
Starting point is 00:30:37 And I understand, I tried to take up to, like, to understand the magnitude of, like, what was actually happening in real life for men and women. And, like, that's what kind of, like, got me and crush me. Like, because, like I said, I wasn't claustrophobic. And, you know, I didn't know if we're going to be in there for 30 minutes or three hours. It really didn't matter. But it took to a place of thinking, like, like, as humans, we make so many mistakes throughout the day and, you know, in life. but ours a lot of there's not really a consequence for our mistake right and our men and women
Starting point is 00:31:13 who serve our country in these missions a minor a minor mistake such as not having your button button or a shoelace not tied can result in your best friend being killed at war and like thinking about like man if something if I were to make you know skip a step in whatever the situation was the result of like me having to give American flag to my best friend's wife and say hi, I'm sorry that your husband and also the father of
Starting point is 00:31:45 your children is no longer coming home because of a silly careless mistake I made and so I was able to like sit there and think about that like how many times has actually happened at war but it's also made me respect our military so much more of the elite discipline that you have to have.
Starting point is 00:32:02 And like along with that discipline comes like the focus part of it controlling your heart rate and very chaotic situations and it's it's not something that's easy to do you have to train yourself and so like that's another reason like I admire them so much so like kind of what you're saying like it wasn't really the being buried apart it was like the thought of like how we got to this point yeah that's great perspective I love that you're able to tap into that like is that something that you feel like you've been able to tap into in normal life like getting back to your real life because for me you know one thing i took away one
Starting point is 00:32:44 major thing i took away from the show is just that i am really lucky you know i i live in a country where we have soldiers who fight for our freedom and i have you know a beautiful family and so many blessings and i left with that kind of perspective And, you know, in times that I get frustrated, I try to remember that, you know, and tap into that. Is that something that you feel the same? You know, did you take away the same kind of things? And are you able to use that perspective in your daily life? Yeah, you know, it's a space that I'm unfamiliar with and at times uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:33:32 I grew up just a little bit different and I almost was taught not to feel. And so that's where sports played such a big part of my life is that I didn't grow up the most fortunate and having dinner every night and having all the necessities of to be successful in life or at school. But sports is where I went to feel like I was okay and I was good enough. And so, you know, I wouldn't change any of that to, you know, to the journey of where I got. But it kind of taught me, like, you know, perspective is everything. Kind of to your question is I was taught not to feel. And so I've been working on that through professionals of, like, flocking into my emotions and understanding, like, my childhood to how I got to this point and being, you know, more compassionate
Starting point is 00:34:25 because I feel like whenever things would go away in life, I would just flip the switch off and try to ignore the emotion, ignore the feelings, and I would just run away from it and go straight to, like, a sports field. It even happens now. Like, whenever I get angry at my kids or me and my wife have a disagreement, instead of, like, talking about it and working through it, I run away from it and I go play a sport or I'm a 36-year-old
Starting point is 00:34:49 that goes and plays call a duty or something. I just kind of avoid those feelings. I've been working on just trying to. to like be okay with these feelings like it's up my feelings are my feelings I own those for the rest of time and it's okay if I feel a certain way even though maybe I shouldn't feel that way but that's my feelings and so acknowledging that is something I went into this wanting to pay a lot of attention to and also perspective I think perspective is so key just in life and I think it's something that we all need to focus a little bit more on because look the truth that matters I can be living in
Starting point is 00:35:24 the middle of North Dakota, and I can personally think it is the greatest place on the entire planet, but I can also, in the same sense, probably make it seem, I guess, the worst place on the entire planet. So it's just, how do you think about it? How do you think about it? Like, being on special forces made me really think about, like, what am I really complaining about in life? Like, what really truly matters and what doesn't truly matter? And, like, I'm cheating myself. If I'm not going to remember what was going on, like, why I was mad, next week, then I need to drop it. And it's hard to do at a time. And so, like, just kind of, you know, I could have very easily felt sorry for myself. But instead, I said, you know what,
Starting point is 00:36:05 instead of feeling sorry for myself, I'm going to, I know that there's someone who has it way worse than I do. And conversely, I can probably make an excuse for there's someone who has a way better than me. But my cards are my cards. And it's like what I do with it moving forward. And so I was able to, like, go into this thing, like, with kind of like a, like a very broad plan and perspective on it and kind of I was able to hang on to it and kind of focus on those few little pillars. It almost seems like you made a spiritual journey out of it too. You know, like I know you were keeping a journal and, you know, you were doing things like
Starting point is 00:36:41 that, which would really keep you in touch with those feelings. So, you know, that's kind of, that's huge, man, to be able to go through that, especially, you know, where you're at with your life. Like, you know, you were pretty open in the mirror room talking to the guys. Like, I'm just trying to figure out what's next. you know, and that's a hard thing for a man to say, right, that you don't know what's next, especially with all the success you've had. So I can imagine it's got a, you know, it's got a really kind of hit a nerve. Did you, have you gone back and looked at any of the journal
Starting point is 00:37:07 entries that you made while you're on the show? And have you, have they resonated with you at all? Yeah. I read them at the reunion out in L.A. and then I actually keep them in my backpack and I looked at them from time to time just to refer. You know, over time, you just forget details unless you're telling these stupid every day. So I've forgotten a few little things and I refer back to it. I'm like, oh my gosh. Like I giggle, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:29 listening to the theme or the note of the day that I made. And, you know, like kind of like you said, like, yeah, it was, I was very spiritual with it. And I think, I think that's what we as people need to kind of lean in on a little bit more. I think we get caught up thinking we need to, we can and we need to fix everything. problem. But the God that I serve wants us to lean on him at our weakest moments and let him do the work. And I promise that if I can just trust in God's plan and not my own plan,
Starting point is 00:38:05 I'm going to come out of this much more stronger with greater perspective, a humble heart, a serving heart, more wisdom, and a better understanding on what truly matters. And so trying to, like, keep that theme in my mind when I am being pulled by the enemy to be selfish or to say something that's not factual or talk about someone or just act in a not good way. I just have to remember that. And also remember, like, man, I serve a God that gave it all up for me. And so being able to, like, remind myself and not feel sorry for myself has kind of helped me. And it just makes my problems feel small. And although these problems are big in this moment, but in the grand scheme of things,
Starting point is 00:38:56 it's really, it doesn't matter. And to people out there that are going through stuff, it's okay to go through stuff. And there's someone else who's going through stuff. So find you someone that you can talk to, that you trust and can work out of this route. But more importantly, like, lean on God. Like, God has got you. And we have a God that's so much big. bigger than anything we can even understand.
Starting point is 00:39:20 And doing our trials, if we just seek to be closer to our God, I promise you, we're going to come back out of it and be stronger. And so, sorry to turn us into like a church service. No. No, not at all. You're speaking your truth. Yeah, that's what matters. I mean, man, you think about it that way.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Everyone that goes through the show, especially if they come through with that kind of perspective, Golden, I mean, it'd be a whole different world, buddy. I mean, you know, it really would. I mean, people going through this. I mean, it's like, it really has a challenge for everyone. And it's a shame. It's only, what, 13 people or 16 people? Or how many people started the season?
Starting point is 00:39:55 I can't remember. Yeah, so 16 people. So it's shame they don't do it for, you know, a whole lot more because I think we could all use it. You know, that's nice to hear you say that. It was really good that this show, like, I think to our kids and other people, like, you didn't show all of us at our absolute best. When we're all in our best clothing, makeup, fresh haircuts, you showed us, you showed us. in a very vulnerable state, and, you know, we were all okay with that because we knew we were signing up. So I thought that said, that said a lot about, you know, just like,
Starting point is 00:40:28 like, hey, it's okay, be perfect. Because social media is going to paint everyone and have this perfect life and none of us have a life. No, yeah, you're so right. No, we sure do not. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?
Starting point is 00:41:27 To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom's the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. A foot washed up a shoe with some bones in it. They had no idea who it was. Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that not a whole lot was salvageable. These are the coldest of cold cases.
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Starting point is 00:43:08 This season, we're going even deeper into the world of music and entertainment, with raw and honest conversations with some of your favorite Latin artists and celebrities. You didn't have to audition? No, I didn't audition. I haven't audition in, like, over 25 years. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:43:21 That's a real G-talk right there. Oh, yeah. We've got some of the biggest actors, musicians, content creators, and culture shifters, sharing their real stories of failure and success. You were destined to be a start. We talk all about what's viral and trending with a little bit of chisement,
Starting point is 00:43:41 a lot of laughs, and those amazing vibras you've come to expect. And, of course, we'll explore deeper times. dealing with identity, struggles, and all the issues affecting our Latin community. You feel like you get a little whitewash because you have to do the code switching? I won't say whitewash because at the end of the day, you know, I'm me. Yeah. But the whole pretending and cold, you know, it takes a toll on you.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Listen to the new season of Grasasas Come Again as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. The really pressing question, who do you think is going to win the Super Bowl? That's a loaded questionnaire. I was going to see the Lions three weeks ago. I'll tell you that much. Okay, so I'm kind of torn. I'm torn, and I'm torn because I play with A.J. Brown, Sequin, Barclad, played with him, and I've always thought the world of him,
Starting point is 00:44:43 and I thought he was the best one of the – he's going to be – known as one of the best runnerbacks ever play based off his effort, his ethic, work ethic, and his talent. But at the same time, like, we are able to potentially witness, like, history, something that's never been done before. Patrick Mahomes and Kelsey and Andy Reed to three Pete. And in our sport, I don't know if people really understand how incredibly hard that is, because the intangibles and intangibles have pretty much need to line up for three. straight years in order for you do that and no team is ever the same i don't care yeah it's just never the same guys move on to different teams they retire coaches go get better opportunities guys will
Starting point is 00:45:28 get more money and so to have to build a team essentially three years straight and to have that team in the ultimate team sport click well enough to be called world champions is so hard to do And so, like, I appreciate that on a whole other level because I was able to win one Super Bowl, and it was very, very, very hard to win one, let alone to do it three times in three consecutive years. I know guys who've played, I know guys like Calvin Johnson and Barry, you know, Barry Sanders, who played for eight, nine, 10, 12 years and didn't even make it to the playoffs or didn't even win a playoff game. And so to be able to card to the world champion is a big deal. And so we're witnessing something that is beyond special. So I encourage people who, like, are tired of the keeps winning and I'm tired of seeing Patrick Mahomes and Kelsey and Taylor Swift. Hey, look, we're in the presence of greatness and hold on to this memory because one thing I have learned in sport is that the people who are goaded are typically the people who are not liked.
Starting point is 00:46:40 And because people want to build you up. up and eventually once you get there, they want to tear your butt down. That's true. People don't like LeBron for what reason? Because he's great. He's not getting in trouble. You don't hear much about him getting in trouble off the court. Right. Hated Kobe pretty much until he passed away. And now we appreciate him. Shack me. And because of whatever reason, now we appreciate now he's done playing. And so like, enjoy this moment, you know, with whatever happens. But nonetheless, I think it's going to be a great game. I think you have a bunch of superstars all in one field.
Starting point is 00:47:15 It's going to be pretty special to watch that. And so I'm pumped. Were you on the Seahawks team the year that you guys went back the second year in a row? Or was that when you went to Detroit? That was my first year in Detroit. Okay. Yeah, because I remember I went to that. I'm good buddies with Warren Moon.
Starting point is 00:47:30 And so I went out to that game. And then the second year, when I went out to the second one, when the Seahawks lost, I was like, oh, my gosh, I couldn't believe it. But yeah, yeah, that's interesting. That's really interesting. That's so cool. And I agree with you, man. I mean, I love Seekwon Barkley.
Starting point is 00:47:44 I'd love to see him win one, but you're right. I wasn't, I'm one of those tired of the chiefs guys, so that resonated with me. I'm going to think about it differently. Yeah. I think that's so true, though. We are hopefully witnessing history. I mean, good football is good football. Hopefully everyone will watch.
Starting point is 00:48:04 And hopefully everyone will watch the finale. I cannot believe it's the finale. Oh my goodness. Of special forces, world's toughest test. It's on Wednesday nights. You can watch on Fox, and then the next night, binge it on Hulu. Golden, thank you so much for coming on the almost famous OG podcast.
Starting point is 00:48:26 We are really excited about your podcast, so where can people find you? And, you know, of course, the tape, tape three, tape the third jersey. Where can people find you? Well, first of, I can't answer that question, so you tell me who you got in the Super Bowl. Oh. Nice.
Starting point is 00:48:47 I'll tell you this, I'm buying a bunch of squares. I'm just buying a bunch of squares. You are? I just want everyone to have fun. I think what you said is right, right on. I will be, well, I will be at a dance competition with my daughter on Sunday. So, and she literally has dances from like nine in the morning until 10 at night. So I will be at a dance competition, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Actually, fortunately, because I love dance competitions, but I would love to see the game. I know my husband will be watching and rooting for both of us. But I do think that it is true. Like people love to knock people down. Tom Brady is a perfect example. You know, you're, you are the main. in football and everyone just is a hater. So I feel like, yeah, like, why not lift them up?
Starting point is 00:49:43 This is historical. So I have to say I'm a Midwestern girl. I got to go for the Chiefs. Okay, all right. I'm struggling. I will say this. I'm struggling because my team in Madden back in the day was I would take the Donovan McNabb Eagles to the Super Bowl every year.
Starting point is 00:50:02 And I don't know why. It was my team back in the day. I'm madden. So I'm such a lion's guy, so it's hard for me to root for anybody else. But I will say I am going to have to rethink. I was all eagles all the way until you just said what you said. And now I'm starting to wonder if I'm one of those haters. So I've got to rethink when I'm, I got to rethink this.
Starting point is 00:50:21 I'm not, so I'm not sick of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey. I think it's adorable. So, you know, from that perspective, it doesn't bug me a bit. But, but yeah, I think I got to get over the fact that I feel like sometimes my homes. uses the rules to his favor, you know, with kind of drift into the sidelines and cutting up when everybody else backs off. That one makes me mad.
Starting point is 00:50:44 But I get it. He's just smart. So I got to quit hating. Yeah. Got to quit hating. So you can see Showtime with Golden Tate on Spotify, Apple, or you can watch it on, like, YouTube. We've had some amazing guests out there.
Starting point is 00:51:04 so and we'll probably even even once the season's over with we'll still be having some contestants hopefully trusted will come on and join us and we'll have some fun with it and see what happens yeah i would love that i would love it so yes everyone go listen to showtime and follow you on instagram i love your recaps when you're sitting by the by the tv and you're just like and this happen and this habit yeah i need to do last episode You know, I think I might go ahead and do like a whole season recap and like just take like, I don't know, use the actual season as a green screen, I guess. And then I'll be like, pause, this is what actually happened here and maybe do it for each episode. Just will take some time.
Starting point is 00:51:48 That'd be great. You know what? Please do that if only just for all of the rest of the recruits. Because part of me wants to write the producers and ask if we can have like the raw footage, you know, just so I can actually show my family that I did the. tasks because they didn't show me doing much other than crying. So I would love to see the raw footage. But at least if there's like, you know, this is really what was going down. And I was in the chicken coop and squatting like I was pooping my diapers. But that is so funny. Anyway, oh my gosh. Yeah. Golden, thank you, man. Thanks for joining us. It's been really
Starting point is 00:52:31 great getting to reconnect with you a little bit and like I said man I think um as a as a viewer who wasn't on the show with both of you I think just the you know the mental toughness and but also the compassion that you you specifically show golden to you know the other people on your team and in your troop and in the cadets I think you know like trista always says she was one you were one of her angels and so I think it's pretty cool to see that and then to you know see like I said you and Brody, for whatever reason, have stood out to me as two of the men on the show who really kind of, you know, showed people your emotions and showed a different side of you that we had never gotten to see before. And I think that was huge. Not that you needed to do that, but I think
Starting point is 00:53:10 it was huge that you guys have both done that. I think it really lets people fall in love with the show. Thank you so much. Yeah, you're welcome. Thank you. And would love to come on the podcast, so you just let me know when. All righty. All right. Awesome. Thanks. Golden Tate, everybody. Thank you so much. Love to having you. Pleasure, my pleasure. My pleasure. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want or gone. Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's start with a quick puzzle.
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Starting point is 00:54:42 Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Then Emergency Intercom's the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling, true crime story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest
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