The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous OG: A (Little) Regretful Goodbye

Episode Date: January 16, 2025

Trista listened to her body and now, the show will go on without her. Fresh off her departure from “Special Forces,” she’s here to address the regrets she has leaving the show and the gnarly injuries some of her co-stars endured. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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but last night was the departure of my beautiful and talented co-host, Trista Sutter. And I was texting you in the middle of the show because I was so worried about you last night, thinking of watching this show and knowing how desperately you wanted to go to the end. And, you know, last night, obviously, the show kicks off with us seeing that Allie's gone. And then as they're getting ready for the first mission, You leave the show, and you're medically, I guess it was technically a medically left the show, right? Or was it voluntary? It was voluntary.

I had to hand him my armband. It was based in medical issues or part of it was, and I can share that experience, but continue with your question if you had more. Well, no, all I was going to say was I was texting you last night because I was concerned about how you might feel. just knowing you and I mean you and I are both people pleasers and you know it's so hard to walk away from something you're you committed to and and I wanted you to know how I felt watching it which was um what you said and how you composed yourself and how you handled yourself I thought was so respectful to the process and to our service people and you know um and I think they felt that way too like he didn't give you any grief he was like yeah no you know you know you know we appreciate you know i mean it was like it was like their way of basically saying like if we could tell you to go home we would have you know i mean because you you just had hypothermia you had just a rough go and um you know and you said you know like i have so much respect for

what you all do and our service people and but i don't want to be a burden to my team and i felt like that was such a a very kind thing to think about in that moment because you know especially in the tasks that came later in this particular episode, you know, there was hand-to-hand combat. They were scaling the side of a wall, carrying 500 pound of gear up a pulley. I mean, you know, more water stuff, you know, which you had just had hypothermia from being in the water. It's like, you know, would you have been a burden? I'm not saying you would have been a burden, but would you have had a very difficult time after going through what you had just gone through? I would say yes.

And I think that it was the right time. You know, and you said you were at peace with it. And I think, you know, I guess my question was, after having seen your exit on television, are you still at peace with it? Yeah, it's hard. So a little background, I'm leaving. We're doing, for everybody listening,

we're doing this at six in the morning, Mountain Standard Time, so five Pacific, because Blake's Lee and I are leaving to go to a dance competition. So I watched my exit, but not the rest of the show. And just to see kind of what everyone would see because I knew I would be getting questions. And it's hard. It's hard.

And listen, I hate to live with regrets, right? I went into this and I wanted to give myself grace and say, you go as long as you can. Like you, obviously the goal is to make it to the end. That was the ultimate, right? And I really truly wanted to, but what everyone doesn't see, and I've said this kind of over and over again is the in-betweens, the running, when I did feel like a burden, truly. Like you, thank you so much for your sweetness last night and this morning that was very sweet. it like literally got me teary um just now and because um i did truly feel like a burden i didn't want

golden or or cam or um nathan or anyone christie anyone feeling like they had to give any extra effort to take care of me when they really need to focus on taking care of themselves and then you don't see any of what happened truly with the hypothermia. And there were multiple people with hypothermia, by the way. The exhaustion from the beach, I almost fainted on the beach. And after I got to the vehicle, I think I've told you this, and Christy explained it, I was turning blue, I was lethargic, I couldn't hold my head up, lockjaw, like all of these crazy things going on, uncontrollable shaking. And, oh, sorry, I haven't woken up yet.

Can you tell? So even though I woke up an hour ago, I haven't woken up yet. So, you know, I'm on the beach. I'm going through, like, what is the most grueling workout I have ever done in my life? And I'm about to faint. And what I was thinking about this morning is when I had my seizure, that was about, I don't know, like seven years ago, 10 years ago. I don't know. I don't even remember.

the date, but they never figured out why. And part of it was, I think, that I fainted, at least in my mind. And so when I am faced with the possibility of fainting, my mind automatically goes to, I can't, because I'll have another seizure, you know? So that was like weighing on my mind in that moment. And I went up to D.S. Rudy, and said, I think I'm going to faint. I need to see a medic. And he said, okay, well, then you need to give me your armband if you're going to go see the medic. And I was like, but I don't want to.

I just want to go see him. And mind you, Jordan had like gone to like talk to them about like her panic, panicking in the water. So I was like, I'll just ask to go see a medic. They said no. And he said, you can either keep going or go see the medic. And so I kept going. And I was like, I'm not ready to go home. Just like I was saying to Q, when he was yelling at me, like, all the way up the hill of the beach, I was like, I'm just not, I'm not ready to go home.

Now, flash forward to getting hypothermia and then, like, change it, you know, she changed me everything. I, as you saw, like last night's episode, when I said, when I was crying in the warming room and saying, I feel like I'm a shell of a human. or I feel like I'm a shell of myself. That was the night before. Yeah. After I had come back and I just had no energy. I just, even eating, I had no energy. I was totally depleted and really close to the, I think, limitations of what my body could do, like truly because, like,

having to face the possibility of having another seizure just because I fainted. Not that that would definitely have happened, but in my mind, I thought it would, was really, really scary. And what they kept saying to me in the mirror room interview was it's going to get a lot harder. And I did have the mirror room interview that nobody saw either. And in that, you know, they gave me validation that they saw that I was working. 100% for myself, but also kept saying it's going to get harder. It's going to get harder.

And I think that was their way of saying, go get some rest, like think about what we just talked about and what you just went through. And so after the mirror room, I walked down with Rudy and he pulls off my hood and says, I thought you were going to leave on the beach. And I'm really proud of you that you didn't um that's what it's all about like just keep going like choose to keep going if you feel like you can keep going and just like the kindness from him of saying you know i'm proud of you you did really well and that that's kind of like i wanted to go to make myself proud to make them proud to make my husband my kids proud and i feel a little bit like a like a hypocrite in talking about, you know,

teaching my kids to pick themselves up and keep going when they are faced with hard things because I left. But I also, in that moment, at that night, chose to keep going, at least for that moment. And then we, you know, I took a really long shower. Allie was talking about how she had the first shower and she felt like she had to really be quick. Yeah, I took a long shower. Yeah, I was like, everyone else was already at that point, like, in their cots or, like, almost ready for bed. And so I just took my time because I just still had no energy.

And then went to sleep for, I think, two or three hours and woke up to the, like, fireworks in the trash can. And I just had this piece come over me. Like, I, it's okay. It's okay to leave. This is your journey. You're feeling like a burden. I hate that feeling. I hate that feeling. And then just the kindness that I got, the fact that they validated me for working 100% of my ability. And then just the massive amount of respect that I gained from the already massive amount of respect that I have for our military and special forces, I gain that. And it's crazy to think it was just two days, but it was a really long two. days and I feel like I learned I learned a lot so I you know it's really hard going back to that

initial question it's hard because in that moment I did feel so much peace and I have to remind myself of that but watching it and knowing you know the the bonding that still continued to happen and the personal challenges that they overcame and that kind of thing and the whole that's a whole, you know, one of the big reasons why we all go. I do have a little bit of FOMO, like I have a little bit of, a little bit of regret in that, well, couldn't you have just woken up? Oh, and what you also didn't see is that, like, they show everyone kind of chill, like, at times they show the chaos. But that morning, when he said, you have 15 minutes. And that is you got woken up like out of nowhere, right?

Yeah. Most of us are probably dead asleep. You get woken up like in a really dramatic way, right? And you have to make sure that your pack is, your burkin is packed, that you get some food, that you brush your teeth, if you feel like that's important. I think most of us do. That you like brush your teeth, that you gather all of your clothes. So you hear one, somebody said like, someone took my sock. Like we were talking about with Allie yesterday, like, it's really hard to just all of a sudden, you know, 14 of us or however many there were at this.

Yeah, there were 14 or 13. No, 14, because Allie was still in it, are trying to grab your clothes and get dressed with your warm clothes. So anyway, it was mad chaos and you didn't see the mad chaos. you saw like Landon and Marion having a conversation and that was definitely not that morning. That morning everyone was like, we're super focused on getting to the parade, to stand in parade.

So anyway, I just, I woke up with this sense of peace. I was like, you know what? This is too much for me. I don't want to push my body past what it can do. And then come to find out later that day, after I had left, after my exit interview, that they did the submersion in freezing cold water and they fought.

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to finally solve the unsolvable. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When we talked to Q, one of the things that really resonated with me was, you know, that he is a kind person. He's a badass, but he's a kind person. And I think, you know, like they even said, they're like, you know, our goal isn't to ruin these people. Our goal is to give them a glimpse as to what we've gone through in our lives so that they know how to push their bodies and they reach their full potential. So, you know, I think like, you know,

know, there was a common interview question that was answered after you left the show going into the next, the milling, which is the actual hand-to-hand combat. And basically, they asked everybody, you know, how do you feel about violence? And, you know, everyone starts answering that question. And, you know, everybody to the letter, you know, I mean, you have professional athletes, you have, you know, I mean, well, at this point, I guess really you got a bunch of professional athletes and a Disney actress. You know, that's kind of where it's at at this point. Yeah, too.

And, you know, they're going through the questions with everyone. And everyone to a number was pretty much like, you know, hey, man, I mean, I'll do what I got to do. I don't want violence. But if someone is coming for me, I got to protect myself or whatever. And it got to Nathan. And Nathan's like, I've never, have never hit anyone. I've never been in a fight.

And you could tell when we interviewed him how kind and just gentle he was. And it was really interesting to watch that segment. I mean, Carrie Hart looked like a professional boxer. I mean, honest to God, you know, you could tell that dude's been in some scraps. You know, and then you have Kayla, Kayla and Nicole. And she's like, you know, look, I've been in a couple situations where I had to defend myself. So I'm not afraid to do it. And it was like she, she, you could tell she knew what she was doing.

You could tell Carrie Hart knew what he was doing. Everybody else was just sort of doing what they had to do. I mean, Cam, I think just from his physical presence was, you know, poor Nathan, right? He had to get in the ring with Cam because of their size. But even Cam to that point, you know, they at one point, they go, guys, you're supposed to be hitting each other, not running into each other. Like they were both just sort of like running into each other and pushing each other. down. And, and, you know, at the end of it, Cam was like, he was trying to find some inner peace. He's like all zend out, you know, because he, he popped Nathan in the nose and

Nathan's nose was bleeding and that ended up being, what, knocked Nathan out. Marion Jones, her ribs got broken, we're assuming. She got, they were both medically, you know, relieved of duty or whatever you call it. So, I mean, it was, but man, that was the moment where I was like, thank you. Trista went home. Because I know, I know, I could never see you. I mean, I mean, you're a scrappy person, and don't get me wrong. I mean, no disrespect by this, but I just don't, I couldn't see you being in there punching someone in the face. I just couldn't.

No disrespect taken. Yeah, so that was part of it. And mind you, I'm in the hotel that we started at before we left. So I'm back in my room, actually. And we're hearing from producers kind of what's happening. and what's going on with the other recruits. And we hear all of the injuries. I mean, Nathan broke his nose,

Landon broke ribs, and Marion broke ribs. And they were all in the hospital. Like, we, I'm sitting in the hotel talking to Denise being like, you know, I'm sad to be gone, but I am at peace that, you know, I left. and then finding out about that, we were like, thank God we left when we did. I mean, you know going into it that this is going to be part of it if you've watched previous seasons, right? They do it every season. There are certain things they do every season.

This is one of them. And I have never been in a fight before in the interview, the pre-interview that Nathan was shown saying, I don't know I haven't dealt with violence before I said pretty much the same thing I've never had to but I'll you know

I'll fight if I if I need to and I'm pretty positive I would have been against Kyla where you know the smaller actually was Jordan no that that was after the water so we haven't talked about the water yet

but yeah Jordan was gone So if Jordan was gone, then I definitely would have fought Kyla. And I feel like we would have been okay, but you just, you just never know. They didn't show Kyla's as much. Like I was wondering if you would have been against Christy. I just didn't know. I don't know. Yeah.

Well, Christy's taller, and I feel like her and Alana, or didn't they fight, they're a pretty good match. Her and Alana and then Kayla and Marion. And then I think the guys were odd. Anyway, Nathan, yeah, Corey fought or Carrie Hart fought Brody. Twice. Okay. And we didn't see Christy and Alana. So we didn't see much of that one.

We saw them like, we saw Christy's face getting, you know, the headgear put on and stuff. But we didn't really see it. But yeah, you know, to that point, that's right. That was the second one. The first one was actually they went back to water in a sinking boat and they have to rescue the black box. And even at that, I'm like, thank God, Trissa went home because as they're going to the water, you even hear Landon, you know, he had even said, he's like, I can't do more water. I just can't.

You know, you hear a few people saying these things and, or maybe it wasn't Landon, but it was someone, but they were just like, I can't, you know. Maybe Jordan, because she ended up going home. Yeah, well, yeah, she was not having it. Like, she's just like, I can't do it. And he's like, you can. And that's when you sort of get a chance to see the DS. is, you know, actually encouraging you and not just being hard asses.

Like, I thought it was really great, to be honest, that they were like, you can do this, you know, you can do this. Like, they knew she could do it if she just got over this, this fear and this panic that developed on the beach, you know, but, you know, she couldn't get past it. And they were like, well, then hand us, you know, hand us your arm band and we got to go. You know, I really thought after this series of events, they, they brought Marion Jones into the mirrored room. And that was really touching for me to listen to her.

And, you know, because she was, one of the things she did was she went down when she was trying to undo the black box, you had to first like unscrew this connector. Then you had to undo both sides. Then you had to swim up with the black box. Well, she was doing great. She didn't get the connector all the way unscrewed. So she just physically pulled it out, like pulled the cable. out and swam out. And they basically honed in on that. And they were like, you know, physically you're gifted and you're, you're someone that we thought was someone who would win at all costs.

But you're obviously someone who makes rash decisions and doesn't listen or doesn't see the whole picture or something like that. To detail. Doesn't listen to detail. Yeah. And so it got her to start talking about the doping scandal, which, you know, she actually went to prison for six months. She lost all of her medals and records, which she's one of my favorite Olympians of all time, and I didn't realize all that happened. Bob, neither did I. I had no idea. Like, honestly, I think I just, my brain just pushed that stuff out about the doping scandal. And all I remember when I saw her, it was the same thing. She is one of my favorite Olympians. And, And, and to hear about that.

And, you know, all that, like, when she was in the Olympics. And, yeah, so it was so, but, you know, it was interesting because she owns it, like, big time, you know. And you're watching her in this interview and she's like, it's me. I made the choice. Like, and they're like, oh, what a, they gave her an opportunity to, I don't know, step away from it a level. They're like, you know, what a horrible set of circumstances or whatever. I can't remember what they said. And she's like, no, I made.

wrong decision in that moment. And I shouldn't have done it, but I most certainly shouldn't have been misleading about it. And I chose to do that. And so when all that happened, and you're just like, whoa. I love her. I love her. I cannot wait to talk to her on the podcast. But she is, she's one of my favorite people from the show. She was just so caring. And people make make mistakes. People make poor choices. We're human. And I love that she owned it. Well, especially her circumstances, and I'm not sure we can ask her this, I guess, when we have her on the show. But she mentioned that when she went away to prison for six months, she had a baby, like a young child. And had to go away. And she was talking about how her mom came to this country. And all she wanted to do

was make her mom proud and here she disappointed everyone and you're just like yeah and she's really close with her mom she was literally just in turks and kakos with her mom um oh nice like i don't know if any more family but this last week she was um in turks and kakos anyway i i love her and um i like i said i did see like little snippets from the show last night as i was walking by the tv or whatever Ryan had it on and I could hear it happening. And I'm glad she got the opportunity to speak about it and that it's airing. You know what I mean? Because they didn't show my mirror room interview. It's not like I had anything like really significant to talk about. I was just kind of explaining who I am. But the fact that she got that, I bet that was like a little cathartic,

you know, for her. Sure. I hope. Yeah. Oh, it was, I will say this. Like, I think one thing this show does very well is when they have those moments, you know, like we used to call them ITMs, right, in the moments. And I don't know what they call them these days. But I feel like they do a really great job of giving people a chance to have a redemption moment. And, you know, or whatever it is, if they're there for, you know, one of the other teamwork tasks I wanted to talk about really quickly because it was kind of when you start seeing the frustration on people,

Like, you know, the fighting thing was one thing. That's just, you know, can you be, have aggression in the moment and then reel it back, you know, which is one of the things that the SEALs were, the D.S.s were talking about. They split the team and they split the guys, the people into two teams, the remaining people into two teams. And they basically have to go on the beach, inflate a boat, paddle this boat out around this buoy and come back. And it's, it's basically, you know, we're going to see who who can be a good leader. And so they have, essentially, they have Golden Tate, who was picked essentially as a captain, and Brody. And, you know, I was anticipating Golden just to shine in this moment because he's been a team player, you know, an athlete his whole life. And he's been, you know, I know he's been the captain of, you know, things.

And but he kind of froze in the moment. And it really kind of created tension on his team. Yeah, like, you know, it was him. he had first pick he chose Cam then Brody had first pick or second chick he chose Carrie but like the way these teams came together you know there were two people who were picked last

obviously Christie and then Alana I think Kyla no no who um the actress is it Kyla I think Brody said I think Brody said that he when I was watching that part and yeah they were talking about Brody's team because that's the only team

that Brody had last night, right? Yeah. It was Kyla. Yeah. Anyway, he, Brody's team crushes it. Like, they're two minutes behind inflating the boat. The boat's not even fully inflated. They got to go in the water because they're going to just lose.

Because I think it was Team Alpha, was Golden's team. But anyway, they're already on the water. But they were such a hot mess in the water. It was insane. And they were like just meandering all over. the place and now Brody's team jumps in and he's like, all right, hard on the right, you know, and he's just like, you can tell the dude's been around water. First of all, he's a great surfer and he's a great athlete also, but he's just a natural leader, you know,

and he really takes charge of his team and they get in line and they're just doing it. And the other team, it's like everybody is, you know, Cam's yelling at Golden, Christie's yelling, Kayla's yelling, you know, they're all just like all over each other. And the fact that they even finished this thing was pretty remarkable. Then they have to do what's called a, I think they called it a powder donut, which is like basically their punishment is. They have to go submerge themselves in the water. Oh, right. Then they have to come back out, lay on the beach, and cover themselves in sand.

And this just creates even more attention. So, you know, you got Cam and Golden, who have been in leadership positions, I'm sure their whole lives for the most part, both professional athletes, kind of at each other's, you know, they're on each other's nerves pretty bad. Yeah. And so you see this like tension between them. You see, you know, Golden. One of the comments he had made was, you know, and I've met his wife once before. She's lovely. But he had said, he's like, my wife says I'm a better father, a better husband, a better everything when I've got something to do. And he's like, he's like, I'm struggling right now. I'm trying to find what I'm supposed to do next. And, you know, and you do hear this a lot with professional athletes, especially in the NFL and the NBA and MLB too. I mean, all of them, really, all the, all the professional. sports. When they come out of those sports, it's like, okay, who am I now? Right. I've been this guy my whole life. Now what the hell am I supposed to do with myself? And they struggle. That was Ryan. That was Ryan. So he chose to go into firefighting, but he, you know, you dedicate so much of your time. I mean, he was a walk-on at CU and then, you know, got chosen in the draft. And I, he dedicated his his life, even though he got a college degree, he was all about football. So I think that's,

that's, it's very similar to the reason that I went and like trying to like find myself and figure out what my next steps are after the kids are gone. And, and I, I feel that. I feel like it's, it's a great opportunity for, it was a great opportunity for all of the recruits to, to figure that out. So I think that was a great reasoning for him to be on the show. Hi, my name is Enya Eumanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you.

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I mean, we kind of talked about it yesterday on the interview I had with the almost famous team. But it's like, you know, I've been being this person and you have to for 20 some years, right? So it is who we are. And then you become a parent and that becomes who you are, but you're still the person that, you know, and I find it flattering, that I'll be at dinner with my family and someone will come over and be like, I loved you, you know, like it was yesterday to them. And it's, you know, so you do have this kind of thing, like Allie was alluding to when we talked with her the other day. You know, she was talking about, you know, I tell my daughter I'm not famous. And she's like, well, people recognize you from the, you know, and they want to take

pictures with you. And it's like the same, you know, I was telling Canyon that story last night. We were laughing about it. I'm like, yeah, I said, I guess Grayson's right. You know, when the girl from McDonald's drops off our, our milkshakes, and he thinks she wants to take a picture with me. I'm like, no, honey, she's 14 dropping off milkshakes. Trust me. It's good. But she doesn't know who I am. But it is, you know, you do have to find yourself at some point. And that was kind of one of the reasons why I never really left my day job was I was afraid of if I was completely out of the real world, so to speak. You know, I grew up in the Midwest. So the real world to me is you go to work every day and, you know, and I struggled when all I was doing was television stuff

because I'd work for six months and I'd be off for six months. And everyone else would be like, oh, when I cry me a river, but I'm like, that's not how I'm wired. I don't know what to do with myself. And this is going to get me in trouble, you know. And so I went back to my day job, even though I kept doing all the other fun stuff. But I think it's one of those things, you know, you get to this point. I understand why everyone's going on this show. I mean, I think, not everyone. I understand why the 16 people who were selected to be on this show did it. And it's the same reason I would do it. It's the same reason that I think you did it.

You know, it was, it's time to find out who I am again. And let's do this, you know. And so I get it. I get it. And I also get why now, especially where the show has at, you know, with you leaving when you did, the show takes a turn to a little bit more of a physicality, that kind of like the milling thing. and then it also goes into this like teamwork makes a dream work type of phase and I think you would have done great there you know for sure but um getting to that point they went through these

two really difficult moments that weeded out four more people you know they I mean the the show changed considerably from the top of the episode where you leave to the end of of last night's episode I mean it became a totally different show I feel yeah yeah I agree and like I mean, like I said, this is one of the reasons that I, that I keep going back to for trying to, you know, ease my, whatever you want to call it, FOMO or regret. And that is just that I, I didn't want to come home with an injury, a permanent injury, be hospitalized, you know, have to have surgery, all of those things. you just never know. So I am glad that I chose to leave when I did and all the events that kind of happened as they did

to lead up to my departure. But it is hard to watch, you know? Yeah. You know, hard to see because even though the water was freezing for the boat challenge, you know, I feel like all the water was freezing. was freezing any time we got in the water, and I actually was fine with the water challenges,

oddly enough, which is crazy to me. Yeah, I think you would have done fine in that one, actually. I feel like that one, like, but, so Ryan was on Fear Factor. They always say that I was on Fear Factor. I literally appeared to, like, give him a kiss. Like, I was not on Fear Factor. I just talked about this yesterday, because they called me to do Fear Factor.

I think with Ryan. Is it back? Oh, you mean back then? Back then. Ryan and I have talked about this. I can't believe I've never told you this. And I was like, no way. And they go, what do you mean? You're an athlete? I'm like, I am not going to eat anything. It was about the eating things. And I remember saying, at the time, I said, I'm not going to sit there and chomp on bull balls in, you know, whatever. And they laughed and they're like, well, Ryan Sutter is going to do it. We thought the two of you together would be great. And I'm like, I would do anything with Ryan. Honestly, God, I would. I'm like, but I'm not doing that. I'll jump out of a helicopter. I'll do whatever to you. But when it comes to eating stuff that's moving, I'm not doing it. And it was funny because I told that story yesterday to somebody or to the almost famous crew and they were laughing.

But I was like, you guys, I know, I know physical challenges don't frighten me. Like I'm not afraid of heights. I'm not afraid of. I'm not claustrophobic. Like Ben was saying, he's pretty claustrophobic. I'm like, I'm good with that. I'm like, but if someone put something in front of me that's moving or that's foreign to me, like, I'll eat anything.

Like, if you, you know, I've been in Italy and they bring out a fish and, you know, the eyes are still in it. And they're like, you know, you should really eat the cheeks. I'm like, okay, how do I do that? You know, I'll try that. Yeah. Don't like it, but I'll try it. Yeah. But it's like, you know, you bring out something that just still has steam rising off of it.

No, thanks. No, I'm good. No, same, same. Yeah. So on Fear Factor, they did this challenge where they were in a cage and the cage was like three quarters underwater, like maybe underwater up to here. And then they spun it. And you were spinning. And so you would go underwater and then come back up and have a breath and then spin.

And you had to unlock a bunch of locks to get out of the cage. And he was, Ryan said, I, the water stuff, that kind of stuff when you're locked in a cage is really hard. Like mentally, you have to be like legitimately like, it's okay. to stay calm. I kept hearing Brody say, stay calm, stay calm to someone whoever was doing it.

Maybe it was Kayla. And it's true. Like you, I think in those moments, the only reason that I feel like I could have passed that one is because I feel like in those water moments,

I was able to get past the cold and just focus on the task. And they give you a couple opportunities to come back up. take a breath, go back down, come back. So if I would have been able to do that, then I think I would have done okay. Yeah, they left that window open a little.

They left that window open a little so people could go up and breathe. You know, you brought up Brody Jenner. I did want to make sure we touched on this. You know, I think this show is better for some people than others, right, from the standpoint of image rehab. And not that he needed image rehab, but. No, right. I really, I've always really liked Brody Jenner,

but watching him on this show in his mirrored room conversation last night, he talked a lot about the Bruce Caitlin thing. Caitlin. Yeah. And, you know, he said, he's like, I felt abandoned. He's like, you know, I'll never forget. My dad marries into this new family and they've got a bunch of kids. And next thing, you know, and one of the, one of the D.S. was like, is that the family we all know from the show? And he's like, yes. And he's like, how'd that make you feel?

he's like, I felt abandoned, you know, I felt like I didn't have my dad anymore and he didn't come around and, you know, I needed him, you know, and it's like, then he transitions to become Caitlin and, you know, and Brody's very respectful of that too. And the DSs were very respectful of that as well, I thought. Um, but it was like one of those things where you're watching this guy and you always just assume that these people have, they have it all, right? Oh, you know, and I've known Brody. I've known Brody for years. Um, I met him several times. I thought he was really nice. I shouldn't say, I know I'm like, we're buddies, but I know of him and we have friends in common. And everybody who knows him loves him, man.

And I will say, watching him on the show, I think it gives America a chance to love him too. Because some people probably just hate him because he's this rich kid who, you know, had a TV show. He was in the hills. Yeah, he's in the hills. And it was like, you know, he didn't really give a chance to show who he was on the hills. He was a character. You know, they all were. And, man, he's just, I think,

coming through, at least from me from a viewership perspective, I'm like loving this guy. And I'm seeing a grit about him that you wouldn't expect some, you know, Silver Spoon kid to have, right? And, and it's like, it's impressive. It's really impressive. I was, I wanted to make sure I said that because I think, you know, I have predictions now that I think it's time for me to start making some predictions. And I know you can't make them. I can't because I know, but I will. I do want to say that I totally agree with you on the Brody thing. I think that you're right.

He didn't need a redemption story. It's not like he's done anything, you know, that needs redeeming. Not at all. But I really feel like he is kind of coming into his own in this show, you know. And he's got a nine-month baby girl. He's talked about her a lot. She's adorable. He's like, I'm doing this for her.

I want her to know. Oh, he's such a proud dad talking about his family. Yeah, he just, he is in love with his girls. And, you know, they're, they're adorable and amazing. And I feel like they have a pretty great life. And I just, I, I've loved that too. I love, I loved getting to know him. Um, yeah, anyway, I totally agree with you. So there was a statement on the show last night that I totally agreed with. They were talking about kids, and he was talking about his daughter, and Cam was talking about his kids, and Golden talking about his kids. And it was a guy thing. But one of the guys said, you know, it doesn't matter. I don't know if it was a DS that said this.

I'm not sure who said it, but I was like, oh, my God, it just caught my attention. And they said, you know, it doesn't matter how great or how terrible of a parent you had. when you become a parent, the goal has to be that you want to give your kids a better life than you had. And you want to be a better, was that carried? Yeah, it was so touching. I was like, oh, wow, that was powerful. And I totally agree with it, you know, so.

Yeah. Here I go again. I cry every time I talk about my kids. It's early. Come on, guys. Give me a break. It's early. Okay, so what are your predictions?

So, okay. So I think, And I don't, I'd never, I'll be honest, this is probably a horrible admission to make, but I've never seen the end of this show. Like all the seasons previous, I know Bachelor people have won it a couple times. I've not watched it. So I don't know how they decide how the end of this thing goes. But if I had to, you know, I'm going to divide it into like two camps here.

I think, I think if there's, does it have to be two people that win? Is that how it goes? or not win but as many as finish okay so i think um i think i think i think i think cam newton uh just from his sheer physical ability to do things that clearly are out of his wheelhouse but he gets it done his is his pure athleticism i think he's going to make it very very far i think carrie heart's going to make it very very very far i think brodie jenner's going to make it very, very far. And I also think that Kayla, is it Kayla and Nicole?

Kayla Nicole. I think Kayla Nicole. I think those are going to be our four left standing. I think she is a force. Yeah, she is. You know, and I think I said it in an earlier episode. I was touched by, you know, the way she handled the whole thing and giving compliments to Taylor Swift and everything else.

But I didn't know who she was. until this show. I had no clue. I'm like, why is this person there? You know? No, I'll tell you my story. I got to tell you my story about how, so we were in the vehicle and the vehicle together. I feel like the first vehicle, which was driving from the boat that we got pushed into the water and had to swim to the next task or going to accommodations. and she was in the car with me. And I was like, so what's your sport? Oh, yeah.

I remember you telling me this. Oh, my gosh. And she was like, I don't really have a sport. And I was like, I didn't know how to ask. Like, how do I know you? Yeah. How do I know you? What are you known for?

Why did they, why are you doing the show? Like, what's your reason? And I probably should have just said that, but I just assumed because she is a physical, like, a powerhouse. Yeah, she is. That I was like, naturally, she is, she just seems like an athlete, right? Yeah. And she is an athlete, but just not in the, like, Olympic term, you know, athlete when we have all of these other Olympic athletes. So, yeah.

Yeah, she is a powerhouse. And, um, yeah, that's a good list. Hi, my name is Enya Eumanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD, oh my God, perfect.

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because Carlson Ramano, she's tough, you know, like she was showing her grit, you know, getting kind of pissed off when they were on the raft and then she was a team leader in one thing and, you know, she's got her team a bunch of really strong personalities and she's trying to, she was the last person picked and so was Kyla and they flip the script and they let those two lead at another segment. And Christy Carlos and Romano's team wins just barely, but they win, come from behind and win. And it was interesting because she, a totally different side of her came out.

I was like, holy shit. So, yeah, I mean, it's going to be really interesting to see as this show winds down. But in my mind, I can, I can, another one is, what's the woman's name? Is it Alana, the pro surfer model? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. she's been so under the radar after talking to Christy about that you know how her husband had said stay under the radar and just don't don't be a showboater and a complainer yeah yeah she's not she has not been any of those things and she's continuously moving forward she might be someone actually who comes from out of nowhere and surprises me on this one because at one point yesterday I'm like who the hell is that person like I almost hadn't even seen him yet I hadn't even seen her yet and then all all of a sudden, there she is, and she was doing something, you know, really well.

I think it was with the boat or something. She was just, you know, partnering, and she and Kylo were just digging in. So, yeah, I think, I don't know. I guess I got five still, in my mind, those five are at the end. But, I mean, that's not really a stretch, right? There's only, I think there's six, eight left, seven left. There's eight, eight left, right? Yeah.

Yeah, let's see, there's Brody, Brody and Carrie, Kyla and Alana. Seven, there's eight left. And then you've got, yeah, Golden, Cam, Christy, and Kayla Nicole. So, yeah, eight. Man, I got to be honest. I think, and I love Golden, and I hate to say this, but I think Golden, like after this last episode,

he was really down on himself, like really down. Yeah, they show him, like, punching the Birkins with all the sand on his face still, because didn't he lose, he just didn't stand, like, he didn't do as well as he thought he would probably in the leadership task. Well, he's a born leader. I mean, you know, yeah. He thought he failed his team. And that, you remember when I was, like, consoling him, kind of consoling him in the vehicle

saying, it's okay, I've got, I've got you, you've got me. we've all got each other. And I think he just is so hard on himself when he isn't able to lift people up to help them. And I think he felt bad about that. Obviously, he was upset in the vehicle. Yeah, yeah. It's interesting. It is interesting.

And I can't wait for you to see. Like, I want to see, obviously, the end. I wasn't there. so I know what happens and I know the kind of task that they do and who makes it to the end. But it'll be really interesting to see it all unfold. Kyla said something in the last night's episode that I thought was great too. She's like, I teach my kids. There is no failure.

That word doesn't exist to me. And I thought that was great too. She's like, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to, I mean, it's kind of like the Tom Brady adage. You know, it's not win or lose. It's win or learn. And I've always loved that. Oh, wow. I love that.

Yeah, I teach my kids that one. And honestly, that one helps me process because, you know, it's not failure, quote, unquote. You know, you can call me a failure. I'm sure there are plenty of people on Reddit that are calling me a failure like we were talking about with Allie. But I'm going to look at it like that. I'm going to look at it like it wasn't a failure. It was just my journey and my journey due to, you know, certain reasons

it just came to an end sooner than you know most other people and then the that's true you lasted a lot longer

than a lot of people on this show I mean yeah I know I know fifth person I guess right I'm not sure I was the fourth

I well and honestly I was technically the third because because I we woke up that morning and Ali was still in it. She was still going like she was going on parade. And so I was leaving and they were all out in the parade square and she got asked to leave the parade square so I had already left. So technically I was the third person to leave even though they show

Ali leaving as the third person. I wonder why they made that choice. I don't know. I don't know. No idea. Yeah. I don't know. I just, I love that we're watching, again, I love recapping these episodes, and it'll be fun to watch. I'll obviously watch the next episode, but it's just, it was crazy town yesterday, like, just driving here and there and everywhere and trying to pack and trying to pay bills and do

things that I had to do before we leave until Tuesday. And you lived it, right? And you lived it. So it's like there's a point of, which I have. understand totally you know i i do love doing this and i and i hope our listeners are loving it too because i am feeling like i'm learning so much about so many people this has been fascinating for me i don't know why this one has been particularly gripping for me it was kind of funny they were asking me yesterday on the almost famous uh podcast with uh with ben and and uh

and um actually and they asked me they're like you know why why do you think the golden bachelor cast seems to prefer you guys over us. And I'm like, well, they say people like to talk with people of their own age. That's probably why. And I'm their age. Trista's not, but I am. And it was funny. You know, but it was one of those moments where, you know, I don't know why this show has me

so just wrapped, but it does. Like I find myself just kind of like, you know, following it to such a degree. It's like, I don't know. I'm really looking forward to the next week's episode because I think a lot is going to shake out. I really do. I mean, it's going to be, like, the way this one was where we draw, a lot of people dropped. I think, I think next week's probably going to be the same way. So it'll be interesting to see how it goes.

Okay, I'm dying to, I'm going to go listen, obviously. But you guys were talking about special forces when you talked to Ashley and Ben? Only, only just in, I don't even know if it'll be in the interview other than we were talking about, you know, it was, it was like the lead up to the new bachelor season. And so they're interviewing all the bachelors. And we, the episode is not even out yet. But we, we taught, they just talked about almost famous the OGs and, you know, what we do on the show and, you know, the fact that people really seem to like it. And, and I was like, yeah, right now we're recapping the special forces, you know, because Trista was on that. And Trista's, you know, the reason I'm even here, right, going on Trista's season.

Oh, stop it. They didn't even know the whole Oprah thing, you know, they didn't even know about that. They did. No, they didn't know the whole. Like, I was like, yeah, I was, you know, I was a guest on Oprah show like 12. times while the Bachelorette was airing and then Oprah's like, I want Bob to be the next bachelor and that was pretty much it

you know, and I'm like I was really enjoying my lovable loser role that I was playing in the time. Oh, like, you know, everywhere I went, I'm the guy that was like, I can't believe she didn't pick you. I'm like, trust me, she made the right choice. This was going to love it. But I won't lie, I did love hearing it, right? I'm like, yeah, you're right.

Oh, I love it. Okay, yay. Well, yeah, I'm sorry that we had to wake up so early. I know it's not as early for you, but I'm sorry we had to wake up so early because of my flights. But this has been so fun, and I hope that everyone out there continues to watch Special Forces. If you can't watch on Wednesday nights on Fox, then you can stream it on Hulu starting the day after. So hopefully everyone can watch this really, like we, you know, we have this text thread with everybody. and last night

it was blowing up and how funny is this one? So Brody was like, I almost spit my drink out when I heard Ben Affleck looking ass when Golden was talking about. That was really funny. He's like, I don't know who the hell he is.

I don't know. He's just handsome Hollywood Ben Affleck looking ass walking around. I thought it was so cute. Yeah, it's really fun. And Kayla said, I might be biased, but our season in cast is definitely the best. And I agree. I feel like we had such, we got so lucky, which is part of the reason that I have that

FOMO with the cast. Everyone is incredible and from such different walks of life. You know, even there are like three or four, four Olympic athletes. They're, you know, they're in totally different. sports. So it's like, I think Landon and Marion realized that they were at the Olympics at the same time. They did. Yeah, Landon was like, I was like those Olympics. Now, that's crazy. Yeah, that's so cool. So I just, I love our cast. I, I love the show. I'm just so grateful to have been part of it. And I hope everyone keeps watching. Yeah, I'm a big fan. So I'll be watching.

That's for sure. So thank you guys for joining us, almost famous to OGs. We love it when you tune in and get a lot of feedback. So thank you for the feedback after our episodes. We always really appreciate that too. So thanks for listening in and make sure you keep on doing it. Keep us around. We got more fun stuff coming and more special forces coming too, right? When we're more cast members and a couple more of the DSs, I mean, we've got a lot of stuff lined up. So I'm very excited to be bringing it to you guys. Same, same. Okay, well, this is lucky number 13, signing off. Well done, recruit. Thanks.

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