The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous OG: Bunk Bros

Episode Date: August 4, 2025

Our Bachelor Nation OG Bob Guiney spends a lot of time with Trista Sutter, but now he’s ready to catch up with her better half, Bob's former Bachelorette competition, Ryan Sutter!Ryan and Bob share some memories that probably should have stayed secret from their time as roommates during Trista’s season. Ryan and Bob reminisce about their mansion days, and the guys bond over their next chapter as fathers.Plus, find out what strategy led Ryan and Trista to winning the Almost Famous Pickleball Tournament in Lake Tahoe!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And of course, the great bevras you've come to expect. Listen to the new season of Dresses Come Again on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This is the Almost Famous Podcast with IHeartRadio. Hi, everybody. Welcome back to the Almost Famous OG podcast. I am Bob Guinea. Today I'm without my co-host, Trista Sutter, Nay Ren. But I am telling you, we are having a good time here in Lake Tahoe.

We are at the Lake Tahoe House, and we have been having a very, very fun week. I was going to say week end, but it's a Wednesday, right? Yeah, today's Wednesday. So it's been a very fun week, or a couple days. So we are podcasting from the Verbo summer house in Lake Tahoe. Procrastinators rejoice. The early bird is not the only one who gets the worm. Verbo offers last minute deals for private vacation rentals,

and we scored a sweetheart deal here in Lake Tahoe. We're having so much fun. And today I am super fired up because my first. My next guest, or my guest here on the next hour of the Almost Famous OGs, is my buddy, Ryan Sutter. And many of you may not know, but Ryan does not grant many of these interviews. It's tough to get him, tough to nail him down. He's a busy, busy man. But he was willing to come and hang out with me and talk with me, which I love.

Ryan is my oldest and dearest friend from this whole Bachelor shenanigans franchise that started so many years ago. and has basically ridden the Trista Ryan Coat Trail all the way to 23 years later. Yes. I mean, it really has, right? It's pretty spectacular. A lot of people don't know this, but Ryan and I were in the same bunk area

in our incredible mansion there in Malibu somewhere that I've never been able to find when all the guys moved into the mansion. And we had a lot of fun in that house, man. That was a very good time. It was a great time. Yeah. I mean, what are some of your first memories of when,

I mean, I know you probably recapped that night, the first night, many times, getting out the limo and everything else. But when we moved into that mansion that next morning and it was kind of like, what is going on? And you looked around that room. What were you thinking? Oh, gosh. I don't, like, it's all, it's all kind of a blur. I don't know if it's a blur. I've just gotten so old that, like, I've forgotten.

But somewhere in between those two things, I honestly remember it being a really positive experience. Yeah, me too. I feel like we always had a really good time. And in fact, I always tell people, like, we would get the card to go on a date. And there would be some level of excitement because you're going with Trista and some level of disappointment because you were leaving all of these guys and really like hanging out. So it was, I think, different than it is today where really everyone got along. I think I told you this when we were hanging out just a few days ago that people want to know who you got.

like where was the conflict and where was all this stuff happening? Yeah. I'm like, I literally liked every single person on that show. There wasn't any conflict. And we had a great time. And it was like we were in this big fraternity house. Yeah. Just throwing parties.

And, you know, remember when we took Jack's bed outside? Remember that? It was so good. All this stuff was, it was just super fun. Yeah. And then, you know, obviously it got serious as guys sort of started to go away. Right. And then it became way more focused on, on Trista.

but the initial, whatever that was, week or two, was super fun. It was, man. I remember it so well, too. It's like that was, and it really set the bar. You know, I think it was obviously, you know, the most successful season probably ever of the show. And I think it's kind of interesting because they, I think, wanted or expected conflict amongst us, and they just didn't get it. No matter how hard they tried. And I was telling the story the other night about getting pulled out of the hot tub and being told, you know, hey, stop trying to coach people on not talking smack.

when the camera. I'm like, look, dude, I'm from Detroit. Like, I don't know even know what the hell I'm doing here. And if I go, if I'm nice to this person's face and that's on camera, then I'm stabbing in the back, I'm going to get so much grief from my friends. I'm not doing it. And but everybody was, we were all like that. And I knew, like, I knew if I'm sitting there on camera and they would say, well, so-and-so said this about you. And I remember, like, to this day, Jason Carbone going, Guinea, just take the bait once in a while. I'm like, no, I know he didn't say that. I know he wouldn't say that. We're buddies. I'm like, you guys aren't going to get me to say anything. And it was so funny because we were kind

of in this experimental pod. They never had a bunch of dudes living in a house together up until that point. And we were the first run. And we did. Like you said it best, it was a frat house. We'd party. We'd grant, our buddy Jack, he was a firefighter from Cleveland. We took his, he went to sleep early. Poor dude. Biggest mistake he ever made in his life. We take his entire bed and put it in the yard. The sprinklers come on. He's getting sucked. I mean, you know, just doing dumb, fun stuff that guys do to bond. We talked about doing our Century Club thing where we did a hundred shots of beer in a hundred minutes and Trista comes home from her date and she's looking around the house and it's in shambles. I'm on the roof with an apron sweeping cans onto the ground.

Jamie Blythe has eaten dog food out of the bag. Yeah. I passed out on my bed and she came in and like rubbed my back. Yeah. And I woke up, like, embarrassed that I was the one that had. passed out from the hundred shots of beer not a big drinker a hundred shots of beer is a lot of beer there's a lot of beer and so I'm like I'm so sorry I'm just really drunk and she's she was like okay no big deal obviously she forgave me but yeah yeah she clearly forgive you I remember so many things

in that show I mean it was a really fun experience because like I said I don't think many of us or any of us knew what we were getting ourselves into it wasn't like there had been another season for us to watch and take cliff notes you know and so we came in and we kind of made it whatever we wanted to make it. And I was telling the story earlier about the producers came to me one day, the first day, we're there. And they're like, and I don't know how I got selected. They're like, what do you think everyone's going to want to eat today?

And I'm like, well, I think we're going to want Mexican. And a margarita machine would be cool, maybe some Titos. At the time, it was a great goose for me. I like some great goose, maybe 14, half gallons of vodka, maybe one taco. We'll split it. We'll be fine. But I remember it was just such a different world. And you're right about the date cards

because I do recall I was never mad when I didn't get a date card. I was so excited for the guys that did. And then when I was on a date card, I was excited to go, but I was also bummed I wasn't going to be hanging out with my buddies, you know?

And it was genuinely that you described it best. I mean, that was a real feeling. Yeah, no, and I think it actually, it's interesting having talked to you after all of these years and found out your path to the show show was very similar to mine and that neither of us really wanted to go on the show initially or didn't believe the show was real or thought we would be right for the show. And I almost

wonder if that played in our favor somehow. Like the production team or the casting producers were like, well, these guys, they don't want to be on the show. We need to get them on the show. We better get them. They thought it was a play. So they just kept, they were persistent with us, which worked out for us. And then I always tell people, had you not ended up on the show, I don't think I would have ended up lasting as long as I did. Oh, that's so nice, man. Well, it's true. Like, you mentioned that they came to you for menu suggestions and things like that,

but I was fortunate enough to get a lot of group dates with you. Yeah. And your personality is 180 degrees from mine. And so I could ride your sort of, like you, you just sort of carried the day. And I could sort of just ride in your wake. And then I could have the time that I had with Trista, where I'm okay in that sort of situation, but in a group type of, like, I don't entertain people and I don't tell stories and jokes and I can't sing and all these things that you can do.

So it was awesome to have you there to do all of that heavy lifting, which I think allowed me to just sort of be myself. Yeah. And then that is eventually what Trista ended up falling for and ended up working out for me. But I owe a lot of just getting to that point to you. That is so kind of you, me. Um, and it's, it's true. I've told people that from the very beginning. It's just, the way it all worked out for me was really fortunate because I just, like, things just lined up well for me. Yeah. I didn't have to do a lot of that work myself. I could just be myself on that show. And that's really all I know how to be. So that's what she was looking for was someone to, yeah, be, excuse me, to be genuine and be someone who is really. And the one thing I remember about you right out of the gates. And it was like, um, I mean, we had a fast friend. friendship, obviously. But I remember being on a group date, and I remember saying to Trista,

I mean, I think she remembers this, because I remember saying this. I was like, so, you know, are you getting along great with everybody? Yeah, I'm getting along great with him. And I'd be like, you know, Ryan is like, he's writing poetry. He is spending time. And I was like, I was like your wingman. And I'm like still technically supposed to be trying to date her, right? Yeah. But she and I, we were friends right out of the gate and it was like and I and I knew that and of course she's beautiful and of course you know but it was like we had this great friendship and I was watching your relationship progress in a way that that mine wasn't and I remember it was more one of those things where I was like it's got to be one of the guys here and in my opinion it's got to be him you know and I felt

that way very early on and I remember thinking to myself like it was never a competitive environment for the guys we were never like looking at each other like oh that dude sucks you know it was always like i remember russ was the only guy that we all were kind of like you know what's up with russ and the reason why it was because he showed up with a gift from tiffany's on night one and none of us thought of it yeah he was just smarter than us and we really we were little irritated with that dude but other than that you know and um but thank you that's a really sweet thing of you to say and i and i've always loved our friendship because i feel like there's a several that have kind of you know permeated the show and over the years have continued to stay intact and we don't talk much

right you know and um jamie blythe i don't talk much with jamie anymore right but we still when we talk we pick right up where we left off you know and it's like the things about that you know jack even jack's son um played football and he was a he was on the recruiting list for michigan state and i was able to kind of look into that a little bit and see you know are they going to grab them you know and um you know i've stayed in touch with him um it's kind of interesting i i randomly will get a strange like message from charlie sure but i mean not very often but he'll be like hey man i'm just thinking about you i hope you're doing great you know and uh and so it's always been kind of interesting there's some though i have never heard from since the day the show ended you know

like um like gregg who was one of the the hometowns have you ever heard from any of those guys no it's such a unique guy and talented guy too very talented guy yeah musician and right yeah yeah that's funny when when you're talking about um you talking to trista and uh sharing things. Like I remember when I wrote the poem that I eventually read to her, I think at Disney, or not Disneyland, SeaWorld. Sea World, yeah. And then it turned into a song at our wedding. Which was amazing. I asked you about it. I was like, hey, and I just felt super comfortable with you. I'm like, hey, I know. I know we're trying to get the same girl here, but what do you think of this poem that I wrote? Like in, and you were super honest with it. You read it and gave me

your opinion and I think it's just it just I think is testament to your character that you could separate the fact that we were and I hate the word like competing for a girl I also hate the word like or the concept of like I won the like I somehow won a wife right out of this whole thing like I just feel like it's weird it is a weird thought process oh you won the you won the bachelorette good job yeah my prize was a wife I knocked down the most things in the cone game you know yeah It's, and I don't know, it's just, I feel lucky. And even when we were talking this morning, I came in to, like, get dressed or whatever. And I was like, you know, Bob and I, despite the fact that our personalities are probably 180 degrees different, are very similar people. Like, I think we have a lot of similarities. We do. And I think that's probably why we've been able to get along so well. And truthfully, when I get invited to these, maybe I shouldn't say this on eye heart, but when I get invited to these things. I'm always like, well, is Bob going to be there? Because if he's going to be there, then I'll go.

Otherwise, I don't know most of the other people. And so I'm more reluctant to go. But I always enjoy catching up with you, whether it's with a microphone in my face or at the pool in the morning, drinking coffee. That was all. I love this morning. Yes, I mean, for everyone listening. So this morning was an interesting morning.

My son facetimed me at what would have been 4.30 in the morning here to tell me he I was so excited to go to camp and everything. And my luggage still hadn't arrived. Damn you, Delta. But Delta's my line. They're my airline. I love them. But I kind of used that as my motivation.

I was like, okay, I'm awake. I'm just going to go, right? And so I was calling Delta on the way there. And I was just bound to determine to get my bag. And then I got back, and it was still super early. And I did have my suitcase, thankfully. And you and I just had a chance, just the two of us to sit out there and talk for about an hour.

And I loved it too. You know, like I loved actually realizing how much we have in common with a lot of that stuff. because a lot of times we don't even get the opportunity to really download with each other. We're just like, oh, hey, what's up, buddy? How you been? Okay, great. Well, I'm going to do this podcast, and I'll see you later. Then we're at a dinner with 400 people, and we're not talking to anybody anyway, you know? So I appreciated that, too. And I loved that, too. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.

Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So we'll find out soon. This person writes, My boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.

Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age.

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the whole thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the run right. I'm looking at this thing. Listen to no such thing on the Iheart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You actually, you and my wife,

Jessica, have a lot of similarities and how you, like, are with crowds. You know, like she's great. She loves talking people. She loves, but she loves in more of a one-on-one situation. She gets a little intimidated when there's more people. And so that's kind of where I step in and be like, hey, I got this, you know. But I do remember when we were talking about your poem and I remember thinking to myself,

that was really a huge moment for me because I remember thinking, he's sitting here spending time writing poetry and I'm out there trying to get guys to do 20 shots of beer. Like, what the hell's the difference here, right? But you're, and you were at this different place that I don't know. that I was capable of getting to with anyone at that place you know what I mean it could have been Trista it could have been my wife now it could have been

it could have anybody I just don't think I was prepared emotionally for that journey and you were there and you were there because it was her yeah because I don't think I don't think you would have been there if it wasn't her but because it was her you allowed yourself to go there you have that you're such a sincere

person and you just don't care about all the other BS and it's all I've always said that about you like they the guy from was that people magazine who was that guy that was here today yeah so i was saying to that guy today um he was like you know so what do you think about a lot of stuff you know i'm like oh this is the house that tristan ryan built i'm like it really is i mean because the bachelor franchise you know that was so early in that whole thing they had zero success so far sure had it not been for the two of you and then the televised wedding which you know little known fact and i remember this

opra was was was the one who wanted to do the wedding yeah and then abc was like all of a sudden like oh no we're going to televise a wedding, you know? And I remember that being a thing. I was like, oh, my God, this is amazing. It would be like a bidding award for the wedding. But, of course, you know, that was, it was just a really cool moment. And it was like, you know, that I remember the wedding was so next level stuff. And you guys handled it, you know.

Yeah, that was all Trista. I mean, so much of this is her. She's been the sort of face of that, um, bachelorette franchise for a while. I mean, there have been so many good bachelorets. Yeah. for her to sort of be the first one. You know, I got, I just took this promotional test and we had to end for the fire service

and we always, we've always focused on leadership. And then someone told me that leadership isn't about getting followers. It's about going first. Yeah. And I always really liked that. I was like, oh, you know, that's kind of what she did in this case because she took a ton of criticism and heat. And it wasn't as bad as it is now

where it's the social media world was not nearly, know what it is today. It was chat rooms back then, right? Yeah, and she couldn't stay off them. And I was like, just don't go on them. Because there'll be 100 nice things. Because I made the mistake of going in there a few times too. And there'd be a hundred nice things.

And that one person sitting behind a laptop saying something mean, and that was sticking your head for weeks and make you second guess everything. Yeah. You know, it's crazy. It was horrible. And so, yeah, for her to do that to take on this challenge and then the wedding was a whole other spectacle

that both of us just sort of, so it seemed like it was going to happen, obviously. And so we both just said, all right, this probably isn't how we dreamt our wedding to be. But let's make the most of this. And it turned out awesome. It was amazing. We had a great time.

We just sort of let it happen. And there were bumps in the road, obviously. Like, I think there probably are for everyone's wedding. Sure. And so it was everything she could have imagined. with all of the people, like Mark's Garden providing like eight bazillion flowers. That was the most flowers I've ever seen in my life at your way.

Yeah, it was awesome. And all our friends were there. The guys from the firehouse were there and nobody had to drive home and it just was a super fun weekend. That resort was amazing too. It was awesome. Yeah, it was really awesome.

So, I mean, again, another, like, snippet from our conversations off the air. Like, it was, but it was so long ago that I don't even really relate to my life anymore. Like it's just like a totally different time where like the helicopters flying over and all of that sort of press that followed that process of getting married seems like it didn't even ever happen.

Yeah. All I really remember is just getting married and now I'm having this great family that we have and all this life that we've built from that moment. But that's been the blessing of The Bachelor for me. Trista has been able to stay relatively connected with it for, well, since it, she was on it. Yeah. Or we were on it. I've been sort of intentionally removed from it, and it's worked out really well for both

of us. It's just been the ideal sort of life for us. And we are super grateful for it and super fortunate. We feel super fortunate for all the friendships that we've had and the experiences that we've gotten to take advantage of because of it. we got we got to live like the lifestyle of the rich and famous there for a little while. Sure did. Yeah. And then we got to go back to like normal life. And I think that's the blessing that a lot of people either don't get to have. They just never get to go back to normal life

or they go back to normal life, but they still really wish they were rich and famous. Right. And that's a tough battle to fight also. Yeah, it's an internal battle for that. Yeah. And we're just fortunate enough to be sort of found this kind of really great middle ground and are existing within that. And it's been, I mean, knock on what it's been great and hopefully continues to be. Absolutely. No, I think you put it perfectly. I often say that when people will say, you know, why were Tristan Ryan so successful and these other couples can't make it? And I do think a lot of it has to do with making the decision to move and go back to Colorado. You never quit your day job. You know, I know you change some things a few different times, but you've always stayed true to who you are.

And Trista embrace that too. You know what I mean? And so, yes, she still, of course, dabbles here and there and does the things that she can do. And of course, the podcast that we do together and everything else. But I think for the most part, it was like I can move to L.A. like everybody else does, you know, and see if I can become, you know, the new Ben Affleck and the new, you know, Jennifer Lopez. or I can go home and I'll take what comes when it comes. And I actually went through that after the show too because there was just all these opportunities

but I had to make a decision. I was like, I'm never going to quit my day job because my fear was, and this was really something like I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop. I'm like, I'm not going to be flavor of the month forever. And they're going to find a cheaper, funnier, younger, better looking version to me in the next Bachelor.

And they did. Jesse Palmer came along. You know? And all of a sudden, I'm like, wait a minute, he's already a broadcaster? What the hell? You know, and a great-looking guy, quarterback, and he actually started? Oh, shit. No, it was like, you know, but I just kept thinking. So I'm like, if I don't put all my eggs in that basket, then I can be happy, you know. And it took time for me to find the right person. But once I finally did, and, you know, we've got a family of our own and everything else. It's like, you can still, you're right. You can still kind of have both worlds coexisting, but you've got to make the decision on which side of that fence you want to. to be on. Yeah. And I think that the younger people now, with all the social media opportunities and things like that, that didn't exist when we were on the show, probably find it harder to decide what's more important. Yeah. You know? Because they wanted the fame part of it. We didn't know that that was going to be a byproduct of what we were doing. We didn't know what we were doing. Yeah. I specifically remember when you sat in there with a psychologist or psychiatrist. I can't

remember which one she was. She said, this is going to affect your life for probably up to three months. so just be ready for that impact. And it's been 20-something years, and it's still sort of impacting. And the first several years were, like you, like it was a major impact on your life. Yeah. To be on, like, to be in the grocery store

with the guys getting groceries for the shift, and there's you and your wife on People magazine. Yeah. This is weird. It is weird. That was actually, because, I mean, I don't think, we don't see the magazines like we used to, right? But I remember that,

is a big thing for me because I was, I'd be at the grocery store and my mom loved it, right? So my mom would walk up, my mom would be in like the chicken section and be like, Bobby, this woman's a huge fan of yours. I'm like, how does she know? What do you?

Mom, are you like walking up going, are you going to go chicken breast or thighs? My son's Bob getting he's over there. He's the bachelor. Like, how is this person even know I'm here? I walk past her 20 times. She didn't recognize me. But I remember like seeing,

especially when things like when Nistella and I were splitting up and I remember seeing the cover of the magazine with the rip down the middle and it was like, you know, and I remember calling the executive editor at Us Weekly. And I was like, why would you do that?

Yeah. Like, you're my friend. Like, why would you? And she's like, well, no, it was just, we just did it to, you know, sell me. You know, I'm like, that hurts my feelings. Like, you know, I'm not getting paid millions of dollars. I guess in my mind, that would have been okay to take a pot shot. But why did you do that to me?

Like, I'm the normal guy, you know? So I remember that. That did change life for a while. Yeah. And that had to be really tough for you because you went right back to the firehouse. Yeah. It was fine until the show started airing. And then I had.

had to take six months off of the firehouse because people would pull fire alarms and people would be taking pictures while you're on medical calls. And it was a huge distraction. Yeah. So the fire chief suggested that I take six months off and he was right. And so that was when we planned our wedding and it ended up working out great. Yeah. But yes, hugely impactful there for a while. Heck yeah. When you're just constantly taking pictures and constantly sort of and there was a great there was a good side of it too like we got to do a kind of ton of really cool events and like i said we got to live in this really sweet cabin and on vale mountain for a while that was really cool so there were there were definitely some benefits to it but it was an adjustment

just to try to find some privacy in your life and yeah and you know always being nice like both tristan and i realized the only reason why people wanted to take pictures was that we they enjoyed the experience and we heard a ton of really positive. Like, I watched this with my, right after I had my child in the hospital, or I watched it as my mom, like she was passing away or something, like all of these stories that are really touching. Yeah. So you can't ignore them when they're talking to you. No. You're like, listen, the only reason why we're able to enjoy the things we're doing are because of these people who all they want is a picture. Yeah. That takes two seconds. Yeah. Yeah. Like, we'll do that. And so we've always

felt that way and we've we were blessed with a positive a mostly positive impression coming off of that show so people have always been super supportive and nice and and that's been easy to handle yeah yeah you're absolutely right because I'm sure I used to hear stories about like guys like you know I don't know if they were the villains of the season or something like that but they would go into a bar and people would mess with them and stuff like that that just never happened to me you know I think I got the sun kissed of being on the season with the two of you and you two finding love and then my season people seemed to like and yeah it wasn't successful from a uh a relationship perspective but it was successful from a standpoint of i was nice to everybody they were nice to me and

there was no scandal it was like you know that kind of stuff so it was easy to come off of that a good at it like that you know as opposed to perhaps one of the others but well i love i know i know that this isn't something you love to do with with these kind of stuff but i love that you're here i love that you're willing to do this with me we are also here of course for a pickleball tournament I will tell you, I had an early pick. I thought, you know, well, let's see. I think Trista suggested this. She's like, we should do the I heart radio pickleball tournament.

And I'm like, clearly someone has played pickleball, right? Because I wouldn't necessarily suggest something I didn't know how to do. So I told Canyon, I'm like, Canyon, I think the Sutterers are going to be pretty good. I'm like, first of all, Ryan's the best athlete I know. Secondly, Trista suggested this. So I have a feeling they're coming in strong. We need to practice. We've never done this before.

So two weeks ago at our family's lakehouse, we got like a friend has like a basketball court. So we put the net over the thing. And we're in there, everyone's trying to teach us the rules. And I was just, I didn't understand the kitchen because they didn't have that kind of layout. So I didn't even know what they were talking about. And then the bouncing of the ball, letting it bounce twice was the hardest part for me. Like to remember to do that. But I felt like we got pretty good.

So then we got out here and, you know, we had some stiff competition. However, I think it's important that we let people know. Well, first of all, who was, all right, you are the champions. Trista and Ryan Sutter won the pickleball championship. First and foremost, congratulations. Thank you. You are a worthy competitor. I was very appreciative that during our matches, you were coaching us on how to play the game,

which was super nice. You're like, up, the next time you'll rush in that when you're not serving. And that was awesome because we end up having to play each other twice. And the first time, I think we almost got shut out. I think it was 11 to 1. And the second time, a much better, much improved game, much closer, 11 to 3. But still, it was much closer than the score indicates. Yeah, well, you guys, when you guys got on a heater serving and it was just like, geez, Pete, we can't.

But who would you say from the standpoint of like watching everybody play? Because I expected, I expected Golden Gary to be pretty good. Yeah. And he brought his own rackets, his own paddles, I guess you'd call him. I'm like anybody who's traveling with paddles, that dude's serious, right? He had on special shoes. Court shoes, yep.

Court shoes. Who were you expecting to be tough competition and who were you surprised by? Well, if I'm being honest, I wasn't really totally sure who all was coming to this thing. So I don't really know who I was expecting to be good. But when we got there,

Gary was won. I knew you would be good. Yeah, I thought Ben would be pretty good. I didn't realize he had that bum knee that kind of held him that. a little bit yeah um diana was diana was probably the one that surprised me the most because she had never played and we played her i want to say we played them first been in her and she was hitting the ball over the place yeah and then by the end of it kind of like you in canyon like the

the improvement was was noticeable right like you guys you figured it out really quickly and became pretty proficient. Yeah. Like, within a few games. I thought Deanna easily wins the award for me for funniest, funniest player. Oh, yeah. You know, like, every time she'd serve, she was doing like the serena, and then when she'd hit the ball, it would either be a grunt

or she'd just yell the worst cuss word you've ever heard in your life. And it was like, it would make you laugh, and you couldn't even return the ball. And you're like, damn it. Yeah, she was great. Yeah, she was enjoying it. And I think you hit the nail on the head with why. we won is because Trista, Trista, Trista planned this whole thing out. Yeah, yeah. Trista has been playing pickleball for years in like leagues and stuff. Oh my God. She knows all the rules. She knows all the

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Well, Canyon also is incredibly competitive. And it was kind of fun. funny when, because we kept coming up against each other for the finals. The finals match was between the guineas and the Sutterers. And we get up there and Canyon is like, she, the first time we played was super competitive and ready to go. Second time we played, she was like, we're never going to beat them. I'm like, hey, I can't have that attitude. Okay. You need to fire up. And I was like, what I love about pickleball and I do think this is actually kind of a universal thing. So I've seen it in movies, seeing everything.

It does make couples, like, argue more. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Because I saw you guys a couple times, she's like, what are you doing? Why are you back there? And you're like, what? And you just hit like a winner.

And she'd be like, well, you could have, you should have hit it from up here. You're like, I just hit a winner. Like, no one hit the ball back. I'll let one ball go thinking she was going to hit it. That was awesome. Apparently that was my responsibility. Yes, yes.

Yeah. I rushed to the net too soon. Glad I know now, right? Never do that again. Yeah, she's really. She's relentless on me when we play together. Oh, God. I enjoy seeing that side of her sometimes.

Yeah. It's surprising because she's not normally like that. She's normally pretty subdued and a sweetheart, but when she gets into anything competitive... She's competitive, man. Yeah, she's not like to lose. Well, people forget. She was a competitive dancer.

I know Blakesley does that now. Your daughter does that now. It's like, you know, that stuff, that is a very difficult sport and a very grueling sport to be conditioned for and everything else. so you put in all that time and effort, you're not doing it to come in second, you know? So I get it, you know. My sister was a competitive cheerleader growing up

and competitive dance and stuff. And I remember they were, I mean, it was, they worked hard on that stuff. Those routines did not, you know, choreographed themselves. You know what I mean? Trista was a little bit of a tomboy growing up. She played soccer and softball and she was an athlete. So she has that in her.

Yeah. And both of our kids do. Blakesley has that. I told you, Max, Max has it It's buried a little deeper in Max He's more of a stoic type of kid But also

Super Hard Worker competitive in that regard But he doesn't lose his temper As easy as his mom and probably his dad Yeah So he does a good job So he's an improved version of Yeah He's got the

That anger management stuff's important You know It really is I mean he's got that down So yeah I did notice The few times I met Max He is very quiet Very humble

just sits, you know, sits back, kind of, I think, gets that from you, right? Like, from the personality perspective. Yeah. And, but yeah, I mean, I know he's a really good hockey player, and, you know, I'm sure probably everything he does, he's probably pretty good at because he's got two very athletic parents, you know, and it kind of comes by default, if nothing else. I think he's getting his genes from somewhere. I don't know for sure if it's Trista and I, maybe it's, Trista's grandfather was World War II vet.

Like, I think some of it's coming from him because he's of that greatest generation. and Max has a lot of those kind of old soul qualities. He's matured a lot over the last few years. He's really grown up as a person. I'm super proud of him. Again, knock on what he's home alone. Probably throwing some sort of giant keg around our house that we're going to come home to. And I'm going to regret having ever said this.

But both of our kids have been really awesome. It's really strange to get to this point in your life where you can see your kids, like they're close to moving out of our house. Yeah. And that's just going to leave us as these empty nesters, which one makes you feel so old. It does, yeah. And two, I don't know what it's going to feel like. Like Max's room is down in our basement where our little home gym is.

And so I go down there and it's like smells like Max. It's like feels like Max. It's his place. Yeah. And I don't know what that's going to be like when there's no Max down there anymore. So I am trying to really soak it up. Yeah. we just took a sweet backpacking trip the other day for his 18th birthday and those moments

have become way more precious than the closer he gets to leaving. And so it's this whole parenting journey is crazy. Like sort of the stage you're in is a super fun stage with your kids that are like really excited and they're facetiming you and all that sort of stuff. And I'm writing these long text messages to my son or something and I get a back, like a response back that's just like, good. But I'm like, good? Really? Yeah.

That's all I get is good. So one of my best buddy's sons, he has an 18 year old and a 16 year old, both boys. And he's like, and he's like that. Like he's always been like the best friend dad and he does all the sports with him. And, you know, and he's like, God, you know, I used to think, man, these kids just never stopped talking. Right. And he's like, and now I can't get him to talk to me. He's like, and it breaks my heart.

He's like, we'll have these conversations going and he'll just go, mm-hmm. And he's like, I'll be like, how was school today? good what'd you do nothing uh who you talking to nobody he's like come on man give me something you know and he's like it's just i don't know what to do because i don't want to be the i don't want to be too pushy but at the same time i'm trying to carve out moments because i know he's leaving for school and yeah he's at that exact same stage as you and i and it's interesting because that makes me almost like want to cry yeah because right now grason will talk to me and blake will talk to me until i can't literally take anymore yeah and i don't want to be the dad that's like like i i read

once that they said never if your kid ever asks you to like pick him up and carry him never say no yeah because you never know the last time they're gonna want you to carry him yeah you know what I mean so I'll be on a walk with the boys and they'll be like daddy carry me and I'm like in my mind I should be saying like nope you need to keep walking build your and I'm like okay I snatch him up yeah canning is like what are you doing I'm like he might not want me to carry him anymore tomorrow I'm not missing this you never know when it's the last time I used to do this thing called the leaf with my daughter, Blake's Lee, where I would hold her up and I would like, I would like rock her back and forth as I like brought her back down into her bed and drop her. And she loved it, like, loved it.

And I remember doing it one time and I'm like, oh, God, she's like getting kind of big. I don't know if I can do this much longer anymore. And I distinctly remember the time she asked me and I'm like, Blake's, I'm sorry, you just, you've just grown up too much like I can't do it. And you just never crushes me. You know when that last one is. and you so want to go back to those days where you could, like, swing them in between you and do things like that.

And, you know, instead, Max is talking about, like, dad, I benched 225 today. And I'm like, I don't know if I can do 225. And so like, and Blake'sley's just all over the dance floor and doing these like these dances that make a dad uncomfortable to watch your daughter dancing. So you think you can dance style that she does, right? Yes.

I've seen some of those routines before. And then I've seen when Trista posts them, I'm like, that's like a grown-up person. That's my 16-year-old daughter. You're probably like looking around. If anybody's like staring at her, I'll kill them. Yeah, the one side of me is like, how is she doing that? It's amazing the way that she can move and remember these dances.

And just like they're all so talented. The other part of me is like, dang it, she's grown up way too fast. And she's 16, looks 22 up there. And I just don't like it. She has a boyfriend now and all these sorts of things. How does that make you feel? I actually thought it would be worse. It's not that bad.

Not that bad. Her boyfriend's pretty cool and he makes her happy. And there's times when he's kind of a dick. And then we have to sort of be like, I have to be like, listen, Blake, he's a 16-year-old boy. He's going to be kind of going to ask sometimes. Like, this is just how it is.

I was the same way. Yeah. It's going to be, you just have to put up with it. Yeah. You know, so I'm, but I'm like, but don't put up with it. Right. You're going to be that way, but don't you let him. You got to expect it, but don't let him do that to you ever.

Yeah. That's crazy. I mean, it's fun. It's a whole set of challenges like that every time you turn around. Yep. I remember, I remember like every single phase of our kids growing up was like, oh, I wish they would never leave this phase. And then they go to the next phase. I'm like, oh, I wish they would never leave this. So it just keeps getting better. Um, different for sure. But it's, it's fun to watch them grow into their own people and, and wonder how they're going to turn out. That's such a really cool perspective. I love that. There's this thing I saw. And, um, there's this thing I saw. Instagram, not too long ago, and it's the dad from Modern Family, you know, the guy that was on Married with Children, Ed, I can't think of his name.

And he was giving a speech to the whole family and he was talking about, you know, exactly what you just said. Like he was talking about, you know, the little baby and in my arms and then I'm like, oh, I hope she never goes up. And next thing you know, she's become a toddler and she's talking

and saying her first words. And he goes all the way through the whole thing. He's like, but I never had a chance to miss the old one because the new one showed up. You know, and he's like, and I fell in love with her as well, you know? And it's sort of interesting, you know, from a parenting perspective as I'm watching my boys grow and I'm loving where they're at right now. And I'm missing where they were. And I think being an older dad, too, like I'm 54 with a six-year-old and a four-year-old. You know, I'm already the grandpa showing up at T-ball. And I feel like it's one of those things where I'm really trying to savor these moments because I've heard from my friends whose kids are older that you need to. You know. So that's great advice. So thank you. All right. So we got a few minutes left before we wrap this up. So I want to talk about the one thing that we've talked. I've always said I loved about you

was you never quit your day job. You came on the show. Back then, they made us very one-dimensional people, right? Ryan, the firefighter. I, however, because we were bunkmates, knew more about you. And I remember saying to the producers, why do you keep bringing up the fact that I was a backup quarterback at Michigan State,

which essentially means I'm a party planner? But then you've got a guy who played in the NFL and all you keep talking about is that he was a firefighter. Like, this dude was a beast. And it would drive me crazy. And I'm like, you guys, I get it. He's humble.

He's not talking about, but he's a next level athlete, man. So anyway, I digress. I won't get into that one. But they want to talk about some of this stuff. So I was thinking about this the other day. You know, one of my other buddies is a firefighter,

and he was a paramedic for a period of time as well. And my father was a police officer. Always had the best stories of things that would happen. And they'd be like, oh, yeah, you know, this happened, this happened. And you should have seen this, but, you know, whatever. And it wasn't like they were talking about people specifically, but they were talking about moments.

Like, for example, my dad's partner for a long time of the forest was a guy who was a nervous eater, right? So they'd walk into a scene, and the fireman might be on the scene of the paramedics. And the guy would be like getting the report from the lady as to what hand. Well, my husband fell down, da-da-da-da. And he would look around and he one time saw a thing of almonds. And he goes, do you mind if I? And he's like, no, go right ahead. And he's eating the almonds while the firefighters are taking care of the man who had fallen or whatever.

And she's like, oh, thank God. I'm so glad you're eating those almonds. And he's like, yeah, I love almonds. And she goes, I mean, my husband, all he does is just suck the chocolate off him and put him back in that bowl. And my dad, to this day, I mean, my dad would just laugh and laugh telling me that story. And I had heard it a hundred times, but it was never not funny to me. Yeah. Oh, that's a good one.

I mean, any circumstances like that when you look back and you think about all the years you've been on the forest, and especially with the experiences I'm sure you've had, you guys are in a mountain community, you know, and there's a lot that goes on in those communities. I'm sure a lot of tourism, a lot of things like that where you get called out for some silly stuff. Yeah. Any funny stories that you think, like when you look back on them, you're like, this is just like, you couldn't write this? I mean, it's hard to come up with anything specific. I do remember when they legalized marijuana in Colorado, you had this influx of 40-somethings who hadn't probably smoked.

They probably smoked joints in high school. And they're like, oh, right. And so they started taking, because instead of smoking, people were just ingesting these like gomies or chocolate. Yeah, the edibles, yeah. And it's kind of like doing shots where you're like, oh, I don't feel like this is doing anything. I'll have another one. And then all of a sudden, and it was still this kind of weird, am I in trouble? Am I not in trouble?

Because this used to be illegal. Now it's legal. Yeah. And so we would show up to these just way overly paranoid 40-somethings that would be like hiding behind things. A closet. Yeah. So I remember that as a phase of the fire service that was kind of funny. but the beauty of my job is like right now I'm on I'm on rescue one in Denver which is a pretty

serious rig we go to just about everything and we see a lot of pretty terrible stuff but we also see a lot of good stuff and then when we're back at the firehouse the there's always like there's like there's like there'll be like a personality like yours or there'll be a couple of guys that can are just so good at finding humor in the day and it's never it's never about the call like we're never making fun of like a person or like you said anything like that yeah but a lot of making fun of each other and each other's mistakes or like we have this one guy who has big teeth and we have this one guy that has a big nose and like the banter back and forth much most of it far too inappropriate to say I'm in a public forum sure but it's just that is

the beauty of the job is that you go to work with a bunch of people that are your friends yeah and you you go and you do these you accomplish these tasks that that sometimes turn out really well and sometimes don't, but you always come back to this group of people that you really love and care for and that support you. And I think that's what keeps people coming back. It's like the job is the job and it's fun. And you feel there's some purpose and some,

there's a rewarding aspect to the actual job of a firefighter. Yeah. But 90% of the time, we're not doing that. We're hanging out with each other, training and cooking and all these sorts of, like, sort of household type things. Yeah. And that camaraderie and friendship is really special is what makes the job really special.

And so there probably are a million different memories like that that hopefully someday I'll be able to like sit down and really recall and remember. But just the overriding impression and the reason why I've been at this job for like almost 30 years is because of that component of it. Sure. Which I'm sure is an extension of your sports years and everything else. right it's kind of that same type of camaraderie and bonding and sure kind of like what we had in the bachelorette house you know honestly it really is yeah well do i love you man i always love when we get to

get together like this and i always love when we get to hang out a little bit and um i obviously spend a lot time talking with your wife than i do with you sure yeah uh but i've always really cherish these moments and i treasure the time we get to spend together and thanks for always being such a good friend to me and for being supportive of all that for always being cool with me walking the red carpet with your wife and you and my wife are hanging out at the end with cocktails waiting for us so uh but i i love you buddy i appreciate you i appreciate you making the time to come and be a part of the show i think um a lot of people are really going to enjoy getting to hear you talk a little bit about the things that you have taken away from this experience because it is a unique one even though there's been 30 some seasons

of it it's still a pretty unique thing for people to get to go through i'm glad i got to go through it with you thank you bob likewise i love you too i love you buddy thank you we have had a great time here today of course catching up with my great friend ryan sutter I think what we're going to do right now, you know, we are in this incredibly beautiful Lake Tahoe Verbo Mansion. It's called the River House in Lake Tahoe. It is absolutely unbelievable. You know, Verbo's last minute deals are live on the Verbo app and website, showing travelers nearly 300,000 discounted properties they can book within 30 days of check-in. I'm just going to tell you right now, if you can get yourself to Lake Tahoe, get to the River House, you will

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