The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous OG: Clare Eyes, Full Hearts

Episode Date: October 20, 2022

Clare Crawley is hanging out with our Bachelor OGs Trista Sutter and Bob Guiney and for the first time anywhere… we get a joint interview with her new fiancé Ryan Dawkins!   Clare shares everything about her future with Ryan and we hear a secret about the proposal that NOBODY knows!   Plus, find out which of her Bachelor Nation exes reached out to congratulate her… and which didn’t!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yes, whatever the hell it is. Welcome to it. Trist, I've missed you. I'm really excited for today. I miss you. It's been seven days. Seven days. At least it's been only seven days because before that, well, maybe before that it was seven days.

And then before that it was like months. Yes. We took a little hiatus. But man, did a lot happen in seven days. Yes, especially good news for the person. that we're going to talk to today. Yes. I'm so excited.

I love her. I do too. Have always rooted for her. I feel like a lot of people have. It's the one in only Claire Crowley. And she's got some big things that have been happening in her life. And we're excited to talk about it today. Yes.

I'm excited. I think we should bring her on. I mean, my goodness, this is the biggest news going on in Bachelor Nation right now. I think it's pretty spectacular. Yeah. Love it. Let's bring her on. There she is.

Well, hi. How are you guys? We're good. I mean, you've got to be on cloud nine. Congratulations. Thank you so much. It was literally the most unexpected thing. We were just living our life, doing our thing,

and here we are. So awesome. It was unexpected. You didn't know? No. Absolutely not. I had no clue. As matter of fact, we always talked about getting engaged.

Yeah. And just our life together. together just felt so natural and it's been the same for a long for a while so to me it was just we were going on a trip we were going to the rise festival and then we always joked about we're like I'm like when are you getting engaged and he's like 2023 baby 20 23 is our year and so yeah then he pulled it out and I kept trying to like draw hints to see because I was like this is the most beautiful festival this has been something we had been dreaming about to go to and I was like should I get my nails done and he's like no they look fine and I was like well if I get him done

I'm gonna do like party wild colors and he's like no totally that sounds great or when we were leaving for the festival I was like should I brush my hair or do like a messy knot and he's like do it not you look hot and a messy not like who cares and I was like okay well I'm not it's not happening now because he it's just like do you babe you know he doesn't care yes you care and afterwards I was like that's awesome I was like why do did you not at least tell me to put on waterproof mascara? Because you ride and cry. Because I didn't want to make it obvious.

And I didn't want you to know. Yeah. Are you a big surprise person? Do you like surprises? I only like surprises when I don't know what's happening, if that makes sense. Yeah. Yep. So the type of people that are like, I've got a surprise for you, but I don't want to tell you.

I can't see. No. Don't tell you. That annoys me, actually. Yeah. Yeah. Don't even do it. Don't bother.

Yeah. Yes. So you were fully surprised. Oh, totally surprised. Completely. And as a matter of fact, he even told me there, like I said, there's parts of me that were like, this is the perfect time. This would be so wonderful.

Because here I am. On our first date last year, we had talked about I was supposed to go to the Rice Festival for the first time ever. So it was September of last year. And it was, Rise Festival is the same time every year. So I was like, I really want to go to this. And I was supposed to go with somebody else, but got canceled on. And I was like, I'm really bummed because I really want to go to this thing.

And so this year, he was like, let's go together. And I couldn't have been more happy because it was like we had talked about this last year. He wanted to do it just as much as I wanted to do it. And it's a really special thing to do. So you have to do it, Trista. Oh, my God. So, Bob, I wrote her. I saw her photos.

And I have been dying to do this as well. It looks so amazing. I am totally into experiential things. Oh, tell her, tell everybody. So basically you go out to the Mojave Desert. It's about, I want to say, a half hour, 20 minutes outside of Las Vegas. And it's a lantern festival. And what you do is basically at sunset, it was a full moon.

You write, you each get a huge lantern that's deflated. It's just a paper lantern and it's deflated. You write your intentions. You can write intentions on it. You can write hopes, dreams for the, future you can write some people write notes to loved ones that have passed on yeah love that yeah yeah it's a really special moment and then they've got this really beautiful music kind of like yoga music going on just super relaxing it's a beautiful beautiful environment i keep

when people ask me about i kind of compare it to like Coachella but for yogis where it's not this crazy about music it's not burning man this gathering of just i want to say like 7000 people there, but everybody had their little plot. And so you're not stepping on each other. You can just sit and hang out on your own little plot. And it's, it's, yeah. So when I reached out to you, I actually looked it up. And they have a whole map of where you can go. I was like, where do I even look? I mean, they don't have tickets available for next year yet. But I, I definitely want to know all the story, all the scoop. So you'll tell me all the things. It's amazing. And then once they set it off, I'm sure you've seen the videos and stuff like that. But once they, you light him

all at the same time and they go off out into just your little torch lights up and it sends the lantern up and you see thousand, it makes me want to cry thinking about it, seven thousand lanterns that light up the sky. And it just is such an emotional, such a special night. And without the engagement, it was such a special night. So I was already crying. I was already so happy to see at one of them on my lantern I had written, don't give up. And that was like, Oh, yes. I saw your post. I saw it. Yeah. That was all that's all I knew about it was from your post. Yeah. So I had written not even, we hadn't even gotten, obviously hadn't gotten engaged yet. I didn't know he was proposing. And I just felt like where I was last year at this time compared to this year at this time, I wanted to give up that. And trust me on everything. I wanted to give up. I wanted to give up. I wanted to give up on life. I wanted to give up on relationships. I wanted to give up on being vulnerable and open. I just was tired. of everything. I was tired of the game.

Yeah. Tired to all. And I thought if I had given up, I wouldn't be experiencing one of the greatest moments of my life with the man in my dreams. Yeah. So true. I mean, so last year at this time, I mean, obviously your mom is, you know, you're super close with your mom and she's had some health struggles. First of all, is she doing okay? She's, it's, thank you for asking. It's always hard to answer that one. And I have a hard type of answering people with that question because she's doing okay, but she's still in hospice. Yeah. So as good as you can be, I guess. She's positive. She's a strong woman. And she loves Ryan, which is everything to me. Oh, my gosh. Everything to you. Yeah. That's great that she's gotten to know him. I mean, that's such a wonderful thing.

Totally. He comes with me. Every time that we're in Sacramento, he comes with me. He'll, literally ask he'll be like can i come with you to see your mom and oh i love that i mean just love it yeah there's um she kind of hit one of those unfortunate milestones recently where um she didn't um she didn't recognize me and i think it was a momentary thing but she didn't she didn't remember my name or anything like that and it was just a really it's been a little little more difficult lately and i was sitting with her feeding her dinner the other day and she looked I mean, she was like, where's Ryan? And I was like, oh.

So she knows, she knows, you know. Oh, that's got to make you so happy. Yeah, I got to say, I can't imagine. I love love in general. But Claire, you know, having gotten to know you so many years ago, I'm so excited for you because you are so deserving of this moment. And it's just so great to see you so happy. And, you know, with a guy that obviously, you know, really cares about you and wants to be

there for you. So I'm so happy for you. Thank you. Thank you. No, thank you so much. It's been a long journey, but I think everybody's got a different path and everybody's got a different journey kind of thing. And I think it doesn't matter how long it takes you to get there as long as you get there and where you want to be. And here's the other thing too, which I find interesting is that I was actually really, really happy with being single. I love single life. I say that to people all the time, that's when it happens. I swear that's when it happens when you're like, you You know what? I'm good. I'm finally happy with me. And I mean, you know, you were very vocal about getting to that place too, which I think is super inspirational for people, you know, and I think that because they see you on TV and they think, oh, everything must just be great and wonderful, but you were really, you know, you put it out there and you were an open book about it and you were finally at this great place with yourself and then all of a sudden

here comes the perfect guy, right? I think it's just, it's a great message for people to know if they're like, why can't I find the right person? It's like, well, you've got to find yourself first and then then you have the chance to find someone else you know exactly and that that's a big part of Ryan and I's relationship where I haven't shared too much about it but I've talked about it is that he reached out immediately when I went through my last breakup he reached out immediately didn't skip a beat I feel like and he reached out and you guys had known each other before that or just reached out because he wanted to meet you we had known each other before that and then we hadn't we'd never met up in person but we had met through social media and stayed in contact

and kind of like always mess each other just stayed friends he was always respectable of my relationship and everything and even prior to that like he was just he's just a really respectful guy and so but he knew when i became single he reached out and i was at a very very low point and he's just the sweetest guy he just was so patient and he was like i had told him i didn't want to to go to dinner. I didn't have an appetite or anything. And he was like, let's just get tea. And I remember going, we laughed about it now, but we went to grab tea and I was so ill. I hadn't eaten in a day. I just so depressed and struggling. Hadn't got out of bed in days. And he, we sat there and I had laughed. I hadn't laughed in months, you guys. I hadn't laughed

in a long time. And like genuinely laughed. And we sat there for four hours and just laughed and laughed and That's when you know. Yeah, that's when you know. But the biggest thing was, as amazing as he was, as great of chemistry as we had then, we had talked about it. And I had told him because it was a couple, maybe a couple months that we had been talking after that last breakup.

And I had told him, I still have deep healing and wounds that I need to heal on my own. And I want to be able to do that on my own and not lean on you as a crutch for that or cover that up with this great new love. I want to be able to genuinely heal and give you the best of me. And because he, the ongoing thing is he was too good to be a rebound. And so wait until he wasn't.

And he gave me that space. He gave me a lot of space. He dated other people. I dated other people. And then we kind of came back together. And it was even better than the first time. That's awesome. Does he live in Sacramento or did he when you met?

No, he actually lives in. the Oakland Hills. So he was right, essentially in my backyard. Okay, got it. Yep. And we, I still, so I have, I moved into my new house in July and he has his house here in Oakland, but I still have that house. He has this house.

And we're just wherever we are, this is his house. And so wherever we're at, we're together. So if we're in Oakland, we're together. If we're in Sacramento, we're together. That's a way to do it. We just have them both. And I want to prioritize. Yeah, I still wanted to have this.

space to live in my own house for a while and also have my house in Sacramento for the time where I want to go see my mom. I go see her a couple times to speak. So it's worked out perfectly. It's an easy. It's maybe an hour drive. So it's super easy. I was going to say it seems really close from my memory.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So tell us about him. Let's get the scoop on right. It's Ryan Dawkins. Right. Is it Dawkins?

Yep, Dawkins. He is. greatest. I feel like he is so, I mean, for the longest time, I didn't share a relationship because it didn't matter like that. It didn't, it wasn't, there was nothing, it was actually a priority for me to date a man and to be with a man that didn't want the fate that came with the show. Social media. Yeah. Yeah. And that's always, that's always the twist. Like, Trista obviously didn't have to experience this part of it. When you come off the show and you are single, which, you know, we, Claire and I have both done that.

And you do sometimes wonder about people's motivations, right? Like, you know, why is this person calling me all the time? Why are they, you know, it does make you kind of wonder. But thankfully, Trista got it right the first time. She's the queen of that stuff. So that's good stuff. No, I did not. I did not.

You were forgetting The Bachelor. Oh, yeah. That one didn't matter. I'm talking about the real one. The real one. Yeah. We know The Bachelor had has a much better track record than The Bachelor. No, just kidding.

Yeah. True story. I don't know, we'll see. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I mean, it was, you do wonder about that, right? You are kind of like, maybe I just need to be by myself for that reason, too. Yep, absolutely. And I was actually, to be honest, okay being by myself.

I feel like single women, single people don't get enough credit that they, I mean, it's, I loved being single. And I wanted to wait for the right guy that didn't care about that aspect or couldn't have any social gain. from me being associated with the show because that could be a reason for somebody to want to be. Yeah. Okay, so he has two daughters, right? And so you're a stepmom now or you're going to be a stepmom after you guys get married. So how do you feel about that? Do you love it?

I mean, I can see you fitting perfectly into any relationship that has to do with a girl. I feel like you're a girl's girl. And a guy's guy, a guy's girl too. But anyway, I love. love love his daughters they are the most snugliest sweetest girls ever and they have been so loving to me and accepting to me which has meant a lot like they can easily be like you're not my mom which they've got an amazing mom and I always try to remind them like I'm not trying to come in and be your mom you have an amazing mom that loves you more than anything in the world I'm just here

to add love to your life to add happiness to your life and to help your dad and I love that that. He's blushing. He loves him. But like, he's blushing. I love it. We were laughing because we were sitting watching a movie and the girls were at school.

And he was like, why do my girls text you 10 times more than they text me? Like 10 to 1. But I just, I love them. I generally love his daughters. And it was a big part of why I love him so much is because he is such an amazing dad to them. Such an amazing present. Yes, that's such a turn on. It is.

Yeah. I said that a few years ago to a friend of mine who was dating a guy with kids. And I literally said, I'm like, if you don't like this guy, I'll figure out a way to marry him because he's such a great dad. Like, it's so, it's such a great thing, you know, that prioritizing of your children is like a big deal, especially when I think when you see people like, you guys dating and he's still putting his kids first. It's pretty spectacular. Totally. And it's the sweetest thing in the world where even this morning, one of my favorite things to do together is school drop. off. I just love everything about the mom life. And we do this school drop off together. And he

he'll get up. He'll let me, he won't wake me up. And he'll get up and he'll be making them pancakes, cooking and breakfast, packing their lunches, getting their clothes ready. Like, he's such a good dad to them. And I get up and they're just all with their backpacks ready for school. And I love it. Love him. That's so great. I love it. He's off in the distance listening. He told me, is he's speaking around because he's got work to do, but he's, he was blushing. But yeah, he's got, oh, I love it.

But he's just a really good dad. And it was one of the things of I got that inside peak of how he is. And there's some guys who you don't know when you marry them. If they don't have kids, what kind of dad they're going to be? Like, they could be a not present dad. And he's very present with his daughters. And I absolutely love that. So, okay, so I know you just got engaged. And I hate it when people rush people and they're like,

okay, so when's babies coming? But I know, I feel like you've wanted to be a mom for a while. Yeah. Is that something on the table? Like, do you think that you would like to have children with him? Well, I have always said, and I know it's so funny because even publicly I'm like, babies. And I, all my friends, everybody who knows me, know. how much I just love babies, just in general. Yes. So the fact that he comes with two babies already lights up my world. And I have told him when we first started dating, I said, I know you have two girls.

So whether our path is just your two girls, another baby added on to that, that's our baby, whether we adopt a baby, whatever it is because I'm older, whatever it looks like. even if it's only his two girls it's his two girls and that those are children in my life that's what i wanted the family so however that's going to work out we haven't really we're deciding that and we're figuring that out but not in a rush to figure that out and i feel i've always kind of joked about like i know i'm 41 but i'm like i'm a child bride don't ask me You know, like nowadays women, there are so many options when it comes to children at any age. Who's the one that's pregnant now with twins at, what, 48, Hillary Swank?

Yeah. She is? Yes. She's pregnant with twins right now. So people like to say this, oh, you're so old and you're just too old. You have babies and this and that. But I feel like we are so much, times are different now. We are so much.

yeah yeah and medical technology has come around i mean claire i'm i'm 51 and i have a three-year-old and a one-year-old so anything you know it's totally doable but they were calling but to be fair they were calling my i mean my wife wanted to kill him but you remember meeting canyon i'm sure cla when we were in l a years ago together but um she got pregnant with our second she was 35 and they called her a geriatric president i literally thought she was going to like kill somebody How outdated that? That is the most outdated. They need to raise that bar because there are so healthy, just older having children. And it's, yeah.

I think it honestly varies at different parts of the world too. Because I feel like even in the United States, in New York, the average age of women having children is a lot older than in Minnesota. Yeah. Yeah, because they put their careers first or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot different.

So I will say this is that Ryan, we've talked about it. Ryan's open to anything and everything. So it's not like, I've got my two girls. I don't want children. Do you still want to be with me? Yeah. It's not like that at all. It's he is like, I want what you want and I'm down for that.

And we want as long as you're together, right? As long as you're together, who cares? Exactly. That's awesome. I love it. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.

Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age.

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Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So he's a big triathlet, right? Yes. Oh my gosh. Tell me why. Can I brag for one second? He did? Yes.

Please. He is such an athlete. Just naturally, he's had this triathlon, or not triathlon, this iron man for the last couple months he's been planning for it, but has not really worked out. Like, he's gone on jogs and runs, but. I know how that is, yeah. He went out and killed this weekend. I'm like, are you not dead?

He went and hiked the next morning up in Camelback. Because that's recovery. It must be something in the name. The name Ryan makes these people like super-heel. I agree. I agree. Yes. How is Ryan doing? How is he doing? He's good. He's, you know, he's got his up and down days, but thank you for asking. He's good. He is, I don't know if you read or heard about it. We don't need to get into it, but he's stinging himself with honeybees, bee venom therapy. I was just talking about that the other day to Ryan. Were you? Yep. I was showing

them a video on it and because I, not even realizing that you guys do it, but it has been so beneficial to people in so many ways. I stand alternative therapies. And I believe deeply. Oh, talking to Ryan about it was like Ryan when we were in, where were we? Lake Tahoe. And Ryan and I had like a half an hour conversation about it. And I was, my mind was blown.

I'm like, wait a minute. You intentionally sting yourself with bees? I would like start bawling like a baby. But he was like telling me all about it. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. We need to bring him on.

Yeah. You know, well, it's funny because. I don't know if I would because last week, I think something was wrong with me. I can't remember what was wrong. And you can use it for everything. Like you can use B-Benum therapy for everything. And maybe I was just feeling bad. I think I was just feeling yucky. And he's like, well, why don't you do a couple stings? I'm like, oh, no, not happening. You're a couple of things. I don't know if you call it a heart. It's a little house. It's a little house that lives in our pantry. And we just ordered more. They came via FedEx. from an apiary it's crazy um because here in colorado they you can't get them anymore they're in their hives for the like the cold season but um yeah he is still stinging and he's he has his ups and downs but thank you for asking he's good i mean the thing is i know that triathlon life that triathlet life and i feel like it's funny because i was never interested like never i was

like, okay, you do you. I'll do a 5K with you every so often, maybe, but I'm not even close to be like even thinking about marathons, but you've done a bunch of races, haven't you? I have. I actually, and that's, that's one thing that's changed in my life is that a couple years ago when I was super sick with my breast implants when I had them in, I could barely walk. I could barely walk. I was so sick. I was doing my best, but it would take all of my energy just to function normally. So working out above that, doing anything above that was extremely hard. I was more yoga, light Pilates, those were my workouts.

And now with Ryan, he actually, he just, I believe, bought a marathon. And so he, his job is. No way. How do you do that? I don't know people own marathons, but. I didn't either. It's a thing. So he, but he literally puts on races.

and that's his job is to yeah he's worked for the giants he's done a bunch of that stuff so he is very much into running and I want to be with him a lot I love being with him and so when he goes and does these things it's in like this weekend we have one in Dallas and I'm like I want to come to Dallas with you and so I'm going to go run the run and run and run the one in Dallas so he works it I run it and then I just meet him at the end oh that's awesome love it yeah but he's he love it I think that, to me, is a sign of a, one of the signs of a good partner is that if you make each other's lives better and 100%. He's always encouraging me, always like, let's do this.

I want to do it. I want to, you know, run with him. And so it's really made my life better and improved my life. That's awesome. Yeah. Well, you look great. You look so happy. You're just radiating happiness.

I love it. You are. You're that person. I mean, we all adore you. And it's just like so great to see you just find. the right person and just hit that next level, you know? Seriously, especially after Juan Pablo. Right.

You know what? I feel like that was, it was all for a purpose. It was all for a purpose. Even that, going through that with Juan Pablo, it was a pivotal moment in my life. For standing up for myself to a man, that was the first time I had ever done that. It was right after an abusive relationship. I've shared that before, but it was a moment that I had that I needed to be able to stand up for myself. So I am thankful for that moment as well. Yeah. God, that's crazy. I remember meeting you

right after that. And I was just like, I loved, first of all, I loved that season because I made me feel so good about myself. I'm like, oh, wait, this guy's way worse than me. No, but it was like one of those things where I loved you standing up to him. I loved everything you said. And it was like, you know, then we, I just, I, along the way, you know, it was just like you just built such a bigger and bigger following of people that and then you impacted them so much by being so open and honest you know I think it's just I just love I love the whole full circle and I agree you've got to go through those bumps in the road and that's all part of your story before you arrive where you need to be you know and and I'll tell you too thank you for saying I'll tell you too and I feel like this is

an important thing is that I am extremely extremely happy now and everybody even in my comments people are like oh you're going you're happier this you're not I I was happy happy not being in a relationship with Ryan. This happiness came from me. This happiness came from healing. This happiness came through doing the hard work of kind of trudging through the emotional crap that I needed to get rid of and the heaviness and the forgiveness that I needed to experience in my own life.

That's where this happiness has come from. And Ryan adds to it. And I'm grateful for him for that. But this happiness was a long time coming and a lot of therapy and a lot of work within myself and his self-work. So that's where this is radiating from. And that's how I'm able to have a healthy relationship now is because I've done the work.

That's where I get the happiness. That's where I source it. So even if Ryan left, God forbid, if he left tomorrow, I would still have this happiness. Yep. That's yours to keep. That's yours to keep. Yeah.

You laid a happiness foundation and now you both can build a house on it. So I think it's beautiful. What is this metaphorical? conversation we're having. I love that trust. Right, right. I mean, I'm here for you, Bob. No, I just let any man ever again break me. So with that, I'm strength in that foundation for myself to not let any man bring me to that level ever again. Good move. Okay, so I have to ask. I mean, if you want to shut me down,

shut me down. But I just want to know if any of your exes have reached out since hearing the totally totally i have they have yeah i've dated some really amazing guys i will tell you there are absolutely ones that have not and ones that and we can probably guess which one i will give you a very good guess with that one if you'd like but um to me it's very telling of i i feel like what i feel like there's a meme about this or like some quote about this but how how i treat you is a reflection of how you treated me. So if you think that I'm awful, what did it take for me to get there?

You know, like, I'm not, I'm not a brat for no reason. I don't have an attitude for no reason. I'm not difficult for no reason. If you're good to me, I'm good to you. And my ex Ben, he's amazing. Such a good friend. The sweetest guy. He's reached out.

Yeah, and even guys prior to Benoit that I've dated, have totally reached out and are just the sweetest things in the entire world in our congratulations and just really kind, really kind. Yeah. You get what you give, right? Yeah. Amen. Yeah, the golden rule.

Yeah, treat others how you want to be treated, right? Yep. Okay, so two more questions that I have, and then Bob, you can take over if you want. But are you, I'm sure it just, I know it just happened, but do you have visions of a wedding in mind? Like, do you know kind of what you want to do? I've we've definitely thought about it I want a very simple wedding um I've always wanted that for my years of being a hairstylist I did way too many brides hair oh I bet oh my gosh the sweetest bride the entire world I always were like they're going to be an easy bride they're super calm they're super laid back

they were bridezillas yeah crazy yeah I just feel like I don't want to put the energy and the stress to worry about other people on my special day or our special day. So I want it's a really simple. I actually, I will tell you this, we want two weddings. Oh, I love. Yeah. So you're going to have a destination wedding. Yes. So good. I want one because my mom is not able to travel or do anything like that. And to be around a lot of people, it's kind of overwhelming for her. And I just want a special moment. with her as to have a really just a small intimate ceremony um we had that Ryan we had I don't know if you get actually nobody knows this but Ryan proposed twice to me once he did yeah for the

actually here's this funny story we have actually three proposals so so we proposed to meet the rise festival then we came back to Sacramento and he oh it makes you want to cry every time but he asked my for her blessing again and um when he did that he got down on a knee again and in front of my mom proposed to me again so she can be there for it which is super that's very sweet yeah and then yeah and then we are very progressive people and so i actually i didn't get down on a knee but i proposed to him as well so if people see him his figure it's because i proposed to him as well so we he thought if you get to wear a ring why don't i get to wear a ring? That's awesome.

Totally. Now you got, I love it. Here's a almost famous OG first. We're all crying. So that's good. Seriously. Really special moment.

So he, he knows how much my mom means to me and how important she is in our lives. And so, yeah, he proposed twice. So I want her to, he also is like, wants her to be there for the wedding.

And we don't know. Time is precious and time is limited. So we want one with her. It's a small intimate thing. And then one, another small one, but just something more of like with his girls and us and something, something and maybe a destination. Love it.

So awesome. Yeah. I love it. I don't even want to ask my next question because that was just like the perfect. I know. I just love that conversation. I am just so happy for you. Thank you so much.

Seriously, thank you. Of course. I appreciate that so much. And you can literally ask anything. Like I'm an open book with it all. Oh, I know. I just want to thank you for coming on our little show to share it with us. It's so nice.

Of course. Seriously. I have to say, this time, I love sharing the story of it. I love sharing my love and the story of writing us and details of us because it really is a special relationship to me. And I'm proud of this one and happy about this one. And he really does light me up. You can see it. It's all over your face.

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Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, I am going to ask the question because I do kind of just want to know. I was watching your stories, I think yesterday or maybe the day before, and you had like a little Q&A with him, which was so cute, by the way. And one of the questions that came up was, has he watched the show? Do you plan on, does he plan on watching the show? Because I know he kind of joked about it in the story like, well, now I want to see it,

But is that true or was he just joking? Like, will you guys watch it together? Bachelor in Paradise are you watching? All the things. I don't know. He's very, which I told him in the beginning, I need a very stable guy who is comfortable with my past and who is comfortable with everything about me

because that's what makes me me is everything I've been. So whether it's relationships, whether it's like we talk about stuff all the time. We talk about guys I've dated. He's been on the phone. I've been on the phone with an ex. He's amazing. So he just kind of laughs it at all and it's kind of like, whatever and finds it funny.

But I don't know, Ray. Let's ask him. You guys can ask him. Let's ask him. Yes, I love it. Do you want to watch the show? I totally will, for one. I mean, so I asked her, I was watching her stories yesterday or the day before when she did that little Q&A when you guys were cooking together.

And I know that you joked and said, oh, well, I'll watch now. But I was like, was he joking or was that true? Do you have any interest in watching? I definitely would. And maybe if we watched it. We'll probably watch it together. We'll watch and laugh together and be like, oh, my God. Yes.

See, that's the only problem. I will tell you, we tried to watch my season, my wife and I. And they don't have VHS tapes anymore, so it was really difficult. So, needless to say, I've got to bounce that stuff over to a DVD format at some point because that'll be outdated soon anyway. Yeah. I'll have to convert that. Right. I have to convert that. Yeah.

I love it. Yeah. We, I think we could probably laugh, watch it and laugh. I think that's the best way to watch it. But, I mean, honestly, I feel like what you need to show him is, is maybe the moment where you told Juan Pablo off because that's kind of iconic and like a big part of who you are, you know, like how you shared. It was a pivotal moment for you. I think you need to watch that, Ryan. I think we will. We've had, we've had, like, he probably knows, not probably. He knows about it all.

I've told him all the, even the behind the scenes of everything with a lot of it. So, like, he's, then he'll put an actual video to with the stories that I've told. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Right. I did that with my life too. I was so, like, up front.

And I'm like, I just never want you to be surprised by anything. So here you go. You know, here is everything. Yeah. Right. This is what really happened. This is what you saw on TV. that kind of stuff totally and it's easy it's easy and it's like if you have a problem with

anything that I've done that's not accepting me completely holy so when you come into this race relationship you got to know you got to love me for my good for my bad for everything that I've been through because that's what makes me me he knows yeah I mean we same with him all of his stuff that's what makes him yeah I love and accept him for who he is as well everybody's got a past and that's what gets you to your present you know so it's like without it you wouldn't be who you are. I love that. I think that's awesome.

Yeah, I'm excited for you guys. I have one question for Ryan. Well, before you go, were you at Ironman Hawaii in 2004? I was not. No. Oh, bummer. We're going to 2023 Hawaii. Yeah, we are.

Oh, it is amazing. So my husband has done some Iron Man races as well and extras and stuff. Yes, it was. so incredible, such an amazing experience. But I have no interest in doing it myself, unlike, unlike Claire. Well, at least the race part. I don't know the Iron Man would be to take, but I could definitely do the race. Yeah. I mean, that's pretty intense. I feel so emasculated right now. I feel like if Ryan Sutter walked in and was on the camera, I'd just be like, really, guys, really? I'm bookended by two Super Ryans. And then there's me.

Stop it. Stop it. No, no, no. Anyway, you have your space. I'm sure. Thank you, Ryan. Thank you, darling. Thank you for talking. Okay, before I keep saying this, one last question, you have a Purdue sweatshirt on, Claire. Is that yours or Ryan? No, girl. Are you kidding me? This is neither one of us. I have such a fascination lately with getting vintage sweatshirts. And that's my jam. That is my jam. So no Purdue for me. I went to community college for my cosmetology degree. Not produced.

That's okay. But I'm telling you, vintage sweatshirts are my thing this fall. So, okay. Share them with me because I'm all about it too. I'm all about the cozies. All about leggings. You guys both look very comfortable. I have to say, you both look very comfortable.

We are cozy. We're cozy in our sweats. Yeah. Thanks. What's your own saying? Oh, Vail. Oh, Vail. Gotcha, gotcha.

Love it. You know, got to represent the hood in the hoodie. And Bob, you're all dressed up fancy. You're just so fancy right now. You know, I'm. We were going to do some family photos today. So I'm trying to go. I'm trying to find my look.

Are you? For Christmas cards? Yeah, Christmas cards? Not yet. No. I says, you know, I'm in Michigan. The fall colors are so beautiful. So I wanted to try and take advantage.

And I got all gussied up and then it started raining. Oh, stop. Yep. Yep. So not today. Not today. I'm sorry. Well, that's okay.

You look nice for the pod. Thanks. I was going to say, I wore this old vintage sweatshirt. tight. You guys both look adorable. Come on. Come on. It's all good.

I love this chat. We are, as you know, we're the OGs. And because you are, you're, you're, you are an OG, especially because we're kind of in Bachelor and Paradise season. So you're legit OG. I go OG. That's for sure. Yeah.

Yeah. And obviously a huge fan favorite. I mean, unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you regret Bachelor in Paradise at all? Did you regret going on there?

I don't regret anything in my life, but I do. It was one of the more challenging things for me because in the OG seasons, there was not an alcohol limit for people. Right. That's the only thing there was to do on the beach was just get hammered. And I don't drink. And so for me, I'm sure I came off just too cool because, but I wasn't. It was just like, I don't drink.

So I'm bored. And I just kind of isolated myself. and it just wasn't my vibe. It wasn't my thing. I thought going on there it would be like ziplines and adventures and horsebackings

and boat rides and whatever like a lot of just swimming in the ocean but it was just too dang hot. There was nothing. You couldn't even walk it on the beach without heat stroking. So it was just...

Really? Yeah. Oh my gosh. A lot of sitting around and just drinking for people and I was just sitting around and being like, boring. It's so boring.

So boring. And then the whole raccoon conversations happened. I know. Come on. The amount of people who were like, Claire, why would you talk, why would you talk to a raccoon? How stupid. I mean, come on. Well, now we know.

You and the raccoon were the only two that weren't hammered. So it makes sense. Yeah. I know. There was points where I wish I drank, but did not do it. You know what, though? you can thank your lucky stars for that once you see like the edits back and you're like the only one that doesn't say anything dumb you're like conversation with a raccoon i'll take that

i'll take that over anything i probably did say dumb things too but like i couldn't blame it on the alcohol you know maybe that's yeah i was drunk i didn't know what i said all right well cheers to you even though you don't drink cheers to you and ryan and huge congratulations we are just so happy for you. Thank you. I just love your love. I love your love. I love your happiness. I love the light that shines from within you. So thank you. Thank you guys so much for having me on. I know when they when they told me I could come on with you guys. I was like yes. I want to talk so much more. I feel like the new the new generation of people on this show I'm like I could be their mom. We could be their moms and die. Same. I am turning 50. I'm turning

50 on the 28th, so, like a week. How are you 50, Trista? I don't see. Do not look 50 at, no. Thank you. Thank you. Not even close. But I say that. I feel that because these kids are like 20 whatever. And if I had kids in my late 20s, they could totally be my children. And I do. I have said that in the past. They feel, I feel very maternal towards everyone. Yeah. Even Bob, even though Bob's older than me. I'm just incredibly immature. I make it easy. Forever child.

Totally. But I feel the same way. Most men are. Same way. So you can come on any time and shoot the shit. We'd love to always have to be there. Before you go, I have to see the ring. You flashed it.

Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh. Oh, wow. That is beautiful. Thank you so much. He did amazing. Yeah. Yes, he did.

I always told him, I was like, just so you know, there's a lot to live up to in the Bachelor world as far as, like, proposals or rings. Right. Just so you know, I'm happy to even just have a happy relationship. That's what, that's the thing for me. The ring doesn't matter. The proposal doesn't matter. You can do it in bed watching a movie.

I don't care. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. He went above and beyond. And it was the most special thing and the most beautiful ring. That's gorgeous. And your nails look on point.

So there you go. You were ready. I had to get them done afterwards because they were not done when I. I got them done. They look great. What did they call them? I love it. The glazed.

The glazed. Oh, yes. The dips. Got the dip done. Bob knows more than me. Love it. Thank you, Claire. We love you, Claire.

Congratulations. We're so happy for you. Thank you so much, guys. I love you guys, too, and I appreciate you guys just thinking about me, having me on. It means a lot. Of course. It means a lot for you to come on. So thank you.

And give Ryan a big hug for us for coming and popping in because I know he was probably like, oh, why do I have to do this? But tell him. He's a tech guy. He's a tech guy. We need his help. Yeah. Totally.

He needs to help. He doesn't want to hog the camera. And you know what? Bonus. Bonus. Right. right right yeah awesome thank you claire so much love so much love and i appreciate you guys take care claire thanks for coming bye claire hi trista that was awesome you had such great questions i loved it

her yeah well honestly it's like having a conversation with the girlfriend because she is one of my girlfriends you know like we actually it's funny because i'm thinking about it now i'm going to go do this right now on our bachelorette um group chat we usually say happy birthday to everybody and we no one has come on and said congratulations on her um on her engagement so i'm going to go do that before i actually forget yes definitely do that but yeah i just love her and her attitude i feel like you know she said it it's easy to get down about stuff especially when you've been through all the things and are still going through, like especially with her mom, that she's been through, that she's going through. And to have that positive attitude, I feel like it's just so mature

and so important. Yeah. And, you know, she's raving about Ryan, but I have to say, Ryan, if you're listening to this, Dawkins, you have found a keeper too. Oh, no doubt. She's a beautiful soul. I've always thought that about her since the first time I met her. We just got along so well. She was super cool. We had a great time together. And she's obviously very beautiful and, you know, has done a lot in her life as well. But I just always really liked her spunkiness, like her attitude about stuff. And man, I mean, from the second she came on, I mean, you see, you just see that, that glow. And like she said, though, that all comes from within. She got that before she even met, you know, Ryan again. And so that's just great

to see someone who you know is in the right place. You know, it's just so confident. I can say that confidently about her, you know. Yeah, agreed. Agreed. So. Thank you. So this has been another edition of Almost Famous, The OGs. That's us. Yeah, thanks for listening. Thanks for listening. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.

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