The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous OG: Denise Richards and the Ruptured Implants

Episode Date: January 9, 2025

Denise Richards gets candid about her super embarrassing moment involving her breast implants while competing on "Special Forces." She shares her real feelings on daughter Sami's boyfriend and sheds insight as to how she prepared to take on the challenges of the show.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He never thought he was going to get caught, and I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha. This technology's already solving so many. cases. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the Almost Famous Podcasts with IHartRadio. Bob, this is an exciting day. I love bringing all of my special forces cast members in. And today, for Almost Famous OGs, we've got Denise Richards. Yay! Welcome to the show, Denise Richards. Thank you for having me. Oh, we're so

excited. Thanks for carving out time. I know the two of you look absolutely stunning. You guys have been so busy today already doing press for special forces. This is exciting. I'm very excited. Trista is going to have some great questions for you, but I just have one thing to say. I tried to see you on Friday. We both did the Jeff Lewis Live show on Friday. And I was walking out as your team was coming in. I was going to prepare you. I was going to tell you, it's pretty, it's drama packed in there. So I know. I love Jeff. I've done his show. quite a few times as you have too. Yeah, he's a good friend, yeah.

Yeah, no, he's so great. I know I was sorry that we missed each other. I know, I would have loved it. I would have loved it, but you look great, and we're so excited to have you on. I mean, I know it's been a lot of press probably already today and a lot more to go. Plus, you guys are dealing with the fires in L.A.,

which has got Trista very scared as the wife of a firefighter. I'm sure. Yeah, she's ground zero for getting that fire put out stat, which I'm thankful for. No, as my husband, Denise, I texted Ryan and I said, there's a, there's a fire somewhere near here. And he's like, well, steer clear. I'm like, that's all he had for you?

He's a firefighter for God's sake. Yeah, that's crazy. I'm sure he trusts in the LA fire department. So it's all good. So Denise, I'm so excited to talk. We obviously can't talk about where, you know, the ending for anybody. including ourselves. But I know that you were just on Jeff Lewis

and talked about your medical issue. Yeah, my implant. I love it. We're like scurdy. She's like, yeah, my implants go. Yes, my implants. And then, Trista, you know of another thing that I had happened to.

The same task that caused the implants. I had, repaired a few years prior to doing the show. I had four hernias, two ingrenel and two femoral. So they had thought that I, something went a little sideways with one of those that ended up not being that, which was great. There was something else.

Thank God. But, and on top of it, I did burst my implants. And I was too embarrassed to even tell the DS, like um by the way i think my boobs popped um yeah i didn't want to say anything and i knew i was mike still and uh i was wondering because i don't remember you saying anything i didn't say anything because i had the mic on and i didn't i don't know like what who listens to what whatever and i just thought oh god i i just think that i think they would look at me and be like, I don't even know what they would have said.

So I was too embarrassed to even say anything. Yeah. I mean, were you in pain? I got to imagine you were in pain or, or? I was, but I was more in pain with what I thought was my hernia situation, which it turned out to be, I had to have an MRI when I got back to L.A. But it was, you know, I'm fine. But I think my whole body was in pain from.

man but yes I would say pain like I've never experienced you know how they say like those bar classes you know that you've never use those muscles before

those are like little teeny tiny muscles that you've never used before but this is like big huge muscles that you've never used before and as much as you've ever used them you know on this show um I agree

so I would love to know like we just did this satellite media tour and everyone asked pretty much the same questions. So I don't want to ask the same questions that we've been asked before. But is there any funny memory that you have from the show? Because listen, we know that it was hard. We are talking all about how it was hard and the most challenging thing we've ever done. But I really would love to know if there's any like funny moment. And I can share one with you if you want me to get you started. But do you remember anything funny that happened that you look back at it and you're like that is hysterical.

Yes. I remember us being in the car with Cam Newton and Golden Tate and we were talking about kids and dumb had mentioned twins. And I believe you asked him a question about that and he explained something. Well, we asked him how many kids he had and he was telling us what the age is. Okay, keep, keep going well so that was a very funny moment i don't know if they're going to air that i hope they do i hope they won't there's no way there's no way they'll air that that's why i want to ask the like these kinds of questions and get into this i don't know i actually i would think they would have to or would want to air some of the things that because the previous seasons i recall there would be bigger groups in the vehicles going from where everyone

was to get to the task of doing what they had to do. And I don't recall them having so many vehicles where there was three or four people in them. And so that's, you know, I think those moments in the cars going back and forth, those are my most memorable moments and fun. Everyone tired, us putting our legs across on each other's laps. just to, and we didn't care. It was just, and it, you know, it was just nice that we all just helped each other,

and we were just there to support one another. And I just loved all that part. I really did. Yeah. Yeah, no, I totally agree. I thought it was amazing. I remember being in the, like, the mess hall or wherever they call where we eat. And Cam didn't know who I was.

and I don't know who told him that I got married on television and he was like, what? You know, like, huh? What are you talking about? You were the first bachelorette. And it was so funny, just like... He was blown away by that.

He took a birthday. Yeah, I mean... That was funny. It was so funny talking to everybody and, you know, hearing... Carrie Hart has all his... his accidents and his, you know, all the bones he's broken. And I'm like, and you're still here, like, doing this?

Like, I can't believe it. Yeah, isn't that crazy? It is crazy. It was, I felt so out of place there because showing up, yeah, I'm like, oh, my gosh, look at all these athletes, you know, I'm, I don't care if I'm 20 or 80. I'm not an athlete. and Blotty's doesn't really cut it. So, you know, it's just a different thing.

It's so different. Well, I was going to ask you, too, you know, going into a show like this and Tristan and I have talked about it a lot because I feel like growing up, you know, watching, you know, different movies and stuff you're always like, I wonder if I could do that kind of training. I wonder if I could get through it. And, you know, what was your primary motivation for it? I mean, I know Trista's was a lot of, you know, the internal of wanting to prove to herself she could do it.

Was that kind of what it was for you too? Was it one of those things where you're like, I'm just going to go after this and show what I can do? Physically I wanted to do it. I thought, okay, I am really going to challenge myself doing this. As soon as I had three weeks to get ready. And like I said, the Pilates didn't cut it. But that helps go with balance and stuff like that.

But this is a whole different level. So I hired this amazing trainer at this gym. It's called Proactive out in Wesley. and it is incredible and they train a lot of athletes and they have you know a treadmill that's got water in it they have oh wow yeah they have a two room i worked out every like five to six days a week um the three weeks that i had i hit it so hard like two hours a day they have a chef there they have all the stuff for recovery and i tell you if it if it wasn't for me working out there there is no way I would have even held on one second on that helicopter.

That is the truth. I couldn't do a pull-up when I started my, you know, I worked out my whole life, but like I said, Pilates is very different than, even with that, I still could never do a pull-up. But so I was able to do a pull-up after working out before we did this show, but I clearly was having a hard time on that on a computer. But at least I hold on. I would never have to hold on if I didn't. Yeah.

The previews are terrifying. I mean, the previews are enough to make me, like, lose my mind watching this whole thing. You know, every time it comes on, I'm like, oh, my God, be quiet, kids. You know, it's just been crazy to see, you know, all of you accomplish some of these feats that I consider myself to still be in relatively decent shape. And I don't think I could have done 90% of it. It's different. It's not like, and like, even with Tristan. and I talking about the running, it's not like we're on a flat area to run.

Right. It is, there's rocks, there's holes. It's a, you climb up a mountain, you go down. It's, you're all over the place. And I felt so stupid because I'm like, oh, my gosh, I can't even keep up with the running. I was selfishly relieved that I had you to help. We were, we were ahead of everyone together. so that made me feel better.

Peter's of the pack. No, and you know, I wonder how you feel about this because the show is all about personal competition, right? They say you're not competing against anyone else. You're competing against just yourself. And yes, you are, but I'm a competitive person and I feel like just having other people there that are doing better than me or worse than me or whatever, I feel like it's hard to get away from not competing against the other people.

So I wanted to do well because I wanted to not look like I was in last place every single time, you know, and there is a little bit of that competition in me. How did you feel? Did you feel like there was ever a time where, you were not just competing against yourself well i at force knew that they would probably say i mean she's not an athlete we've all competed some have been in the olympics some have done are just professional athletes there's no comparison physically i can't i will never ever i don't care how old i am or how young i am ever do that because it's not me

So I feared as soon as they saw me, they'd be like, okay. So I felt like I had nothing to live up to as it was anyway. What I did, what I felt was I didn't want to be the weak link. Totally. Because, and that was, that part was hard. I felt like I was at times when we were doing certain things that I was, I didn't want to keep everyone behind. Same.

I get that. Yeah. I actually, you know, you opened the whole thing by one of the things that I thought was a really very sweet and vulnerable answer, by the way, when Trista was talking about your breast implant, and you were like, yeah, I was embarrassed. I didn't want to say anything. Part of me feels like that's part of it too, right? I mean, these drill sergeants are like in your ear, you know, attacking everything that you're interferes. They know what they are probably. And it's like, you know, to have to possibly feel embarrassed or to feel like you're coming, you're holding back the group. That would be tough for me too. Yeah. I mean, never in a million years when I went into this and my older daughters were terrified that I decided to do it and they were not happy. They were so scared. I was going to break bones or, you know, something. Never did across my mind. I wonder if I'll rupture my implants on this. Like, no. I didn't even think of that. That was like the least of my worries was my boobs. So there was a moment where I, there was a moment where I, I kept asking to see someone because I knew something wasn't right, but it was, yeah, no, I didn't even, I just, and I'm usually when I'm working, I am very able to, you know, be direct and talk to people that I work with and able to stand up for myself. In this situation, I felt like I could not, I feel like I couldn't even smile or laugh or I would get yelled at. Totally.

And if I got yelled at, it would be fine, but I didn't want to have everyone else. to push-ups because I did something that pissed them off. So that was the other thing where I felt like I couldn't really be my self during those moments. No, you can't ever because I feel like you know me, you know me and I want to crack a joke every every so often, especially uncomfortable and you can't. You can't even like think about, oh crap, my jacket is not zipped up all the way or I don't have my belt tightened or like my shoes aren't aren't tied like exactly as you have to pay so much attention to detail that I feel like you just get lost in the details you know what I mean like

you who cares about who I am as a person like it's all about like you have to be super focused or else we are going to get yelled at and we are going to have to do push-ups you know absolutely and we couldn't even around them be sarcastic or crack jokes or you know have fun have a sense of humor it was right we were all like just not you know it's um it's a weird it's such a different situation unlike anything any of us have ever been in and i even think for the athletes that are used to coaches that really push and push and push i feel that they even had a different experience too with this with the the ds as well Hi, my name is Enya Eumanzor.

And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercoms is the podcast for you.

Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom. come and listen now. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York state number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional

programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming, and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

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On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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you're a spiritual belief. But I think with social media, there's like a hyperfixation and observation of our hair. Right, that this is sometimes the first thing someone sees when we make a post or a reel is how our hair is styled. We talk about the important role hairstyles play in our community, the pressure to always look put together, and how breaking up with perfection can actually free us. Plus, if you're someone who gets anxious about flying, don't miss Session 418 with Dr. Angela Neil Barnett, where we dive into managing flight anxiety. Listen to therapy for black girls on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast. or wherever you get your podcast.

I do have to go back to like the funny comment. So like how we can't like be sarcastic or whatever. So for the bridge and I'm not spoiling anything because the bridge is something that's on the trailer. But to get to the bridge, you have to, you have to run up the hill. Like the run up the side to get the bridge. And the bridge was, how far, how tall do you think the bridge is?

So I Google the bridge after. And you did. I did. I'm not actually a few days ago. And if it's the same bridge, which it looked like it was, it said it was 300 feet off down. 30 stories, right? 30 stories high. So it's quite freaking high.

It's quite freaking high. And so I'm running to get up to where you get all hooked up and everything. Which is very steep. And there's rocks. Which is very steep. And the terrain is like there's rocks and logs and crap everywhere. you guys on all four like are you are you almost like on all fours going up the hill yeah almost yeah like you have to like grip into the the side of the mountain the hill whatever and no one's around you

like no one's pushing you you're all by yourself at least i was um so i run the side of the hill oh my gosh and get to the top and cue is up there yeah cue is the navy seal and um he was like I get there and you know, you automatically get into attention and he's like, why are you breathing so hard? Why do it take you so long? And I was like, uh, because I have asthma and I'm 51 and I'm out of shape. And he was like, okay. You said this? That's awesome.

I love that you said that. I was like, well, honestly, uh, because I have asthma. I'm out of shape and I'm 51 years old. And he was like, okay. And he walks away. It was so funny. That is hilarious. Did they send you guys your boots that you wear on the show ahead of time so you could break them in?

Yes. Yes. Oh, thank God. Mine never fit. I ordered my own because they sent two sizes. They didn't fit. They were men's and they were, they didn't fit me. So I ordered my own from the company so I can get them.

Denise, that's so funny that you say that because same thing happened to me. I'm pretty sure the same thing happened to Allie. I wonder if they do that so that you, they have to keep postponing and so you don't get to break them in situation. Oh, I wonder. Why even give them to us at all? Well, because we have to have them in the show, but you're right. Like mine were too big.

Well, I was like, what is happening here? Why can't they get these sizes right? Like, well, they didn't calculate because the boots are men's sizes. And so they didn't. But this is their third season doing the show. I agree with you a thousand percent. And I was thinking, is this a new company that they're using? But we do do the fitting, you know, when we get there.

Yeah, that part is the boots were terrible and they're so uncomfortable. They're heavy, too. Yeah. They're very heavy. But going back to Trista climbing to get to the bridge. This is the thing when people watching the show, it's not just the task. of you're on the bridge and doing whatever.

We have to run and they make you climb out so fast out of these vehicles. Grab your stuff, throw it on your back, and you have to run all the way there. We're so winded by the time we get there. Then to even get up to the bridge, when they said

I had to climb, go this way, I go which way? They go right there, I go where? And that, I'm like, how am I going to climb up that? It was so steep. I was practically on all fours and I was like swearing going up there because I'm like, I can't even get up this. How on earth am I going to jump off here? Yeah. Oh my God. That would drive me crazy. Actually, another funny story from the bridge is, and I don't know if this makes you recall anything that happened with you, but when I got to the bridge, I'm all hooked up

and Foxy, you know, is up there and he's like, okay, turn around. And he knew I had a pretty healthy fear of heights. I don't think I'm as fearful as you or Kayla, you know, I feel like there were some people who are really scared of heights. I'm scared of it, but it's not my worst fear. So I get up there and he's like, okay, we'll turn around and look at where you are. And I think he was expecting me to, like, freak out and be like, oh, my God, this is so high up. And I turned around and I was like, this is beautiful.

And he was like, what? It's beautiful. He kept telling me to look to, and I wouldn't. And he was like, look down, look down. And I was like, oh, this asshole is making me. And he was like, what are you scared of? You were a bond girl. And I said, well, we didn't do stunts like this.

We had a stunt double. Plus, I'm sure it didn't jump off a bridge. And when we do stunts, they just put this equipment on you. And I said, I'm left-handed. The lever, it was for right-handed people. And they didn't care. And I went to ask questions with Foxy.

And he's like, don't worry about it. You just jump. And I'm like, you're, I could, but I'm the dumbass that was like, oh, okay. Like, in hindsight, I should have really said, no, I want the safety person to go through the equipment with me. Because it's dangerous. I mean, when you think about it. Yeah.

That was stupid on my part. I should have really asked them about it. But do you think they would have done anything? I don't think they would have done anything. Well, but that's my fault because, God forbid, what if something really bad happened? I mean, I thought I snapped my neck, to be honest, when I did jump. But, you know. I don't know if it was you who went when they went for the first time.

I thought it was Kyla. And her head literally went like. down to her shoulder, I feel like you can't even do it. Like, do you remember? Were you down there when it might have been you too? Well, I don't know about two or three of us. I was one of them where even Golden's like, I thought you broke your neck. He said, I didn't do.

Seriously. It was scary. I was thinking, holy crap, is someone going to be paralyzed after this, you know? Because even though you feel like you are safe and you trust that you're safe, we just had Nathan on the podcast a couple days ago. And he was like, I always trusted that I was safe. But there's only so much safety they can provide. You know, once you do something, you could very well hurt yourself, you know. Oh, yeah.

Heck yeah. And they have safety precautions, but you still sign that waiver that says, you know, something happens or something. I'm sure we signed our life away. Yeah. But I think I would have felt safer if they had like a, when they're giving us the equipment to really explain it to us because even if you went for recreational going rock climbing or even in an indoor rock climbing place, they explain all the equipment really well so that you can maneuver it and that sort of thing.

And that did not happen on this. You had someone who wouldn't talk to you, put stuff on you, and tell you to go. I'm like, I don't even know if this crap fits right. And it's for a right-handed person, the lever. I can't. So that part, I was surprised by that part of it. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Was there anything else that surprised you, either what you learned about yourself or just the experience? Well, I learned, even though I'm terrified of heights, that I did do it. My family was shocked when they heard I jumped off a bridge. They couldn't believe that. And then they were mad at me. Like, why would you do that? You could have, like, told yourself.

I go, but I did it, and I'm alive. Oh, my God. I love that you guys push yourself on this, right through your fears. I love it. Yeah, I feel like that's what you have to do. The other thing that surprised me was I really thought, because we both have done reality and I think I touched on this a little earlier is that I really thought like I almost said something and thank God I didn't because I would have been the smart hour but when Foxy was giving us a tour of our home and he was like this is where you eat and stuff I almost said is this where craft service will be like are they going to have food out I thought they would have food out all the time because of that video we had to watch the night before where they're like make sure sure you're eating and drinking lots of liquids and this and that i'm like where is the food there's

no food around here it was so weird did you guys have to make your own food like with the mre's and all that stuff no no no they brought this food here yeah i really did think there's craft service on the side well so it's so freaking funny i love that i feel like so the um at the beginning They gave us food. Like, they gave us snack bags. No, snacks in the car. Right, in the car. And we stole some and put them in our pocket.

So we were, we did from a little container. But they ended up, like, kind of not giving us as much as we got in the beginning. And that was a problem. But everyone was complaining about it. Like, Cam was going crazy. He was starving, and he's huge. I mean, and he's. like. And he's a vegan, I think. I think he's a vegan. And he's 20 feet tall. So for him

the sandwich that we all got, we had to take the ham off of it because he doesn't eat him. Right. And those sandwiches, I'm sorry, we pulled it into a freaking gas station. There's nothing wrong with gas stations with food. But it was like these, I don't even know what it was. Like white bread. It was that white bread. The Wonder Bread with the Wonder Bread and cheese. I was so hungry. I ate it and I would never eat something like that. And they gave us yogurt and I actually really like the yogurt,

but I will say I kept saying like people were pissed that there wasn't food. And I'm like, you guys, they don't have to give us food. Like they could starve us. Like literally the guys the DS had just said, I don't know if it was the same day or what, but they just said we we survived you can survive for 30 days without food or whatever it was and i was like this is just them like saying this is the training you're going to have to do it you know i that would be fine and dandy except they had us watch something from production saying yeah make sure you eat make sure you have plenty of water this wouldn't be supposed to eat if there's no food and to have

to all that stuff. We're also not, I mean, we are doing an entertainment television show. So I can stand to a certain extent of it. Yeah, totally. Hi, my name is Enya Emanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.

If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, We're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom's the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app.

Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately from Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline,

physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer and her mom is a cousin. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear.

The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A foot washed up, a shoe with some bones. in it. They had no idea who it was.

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Listen to therapy for black girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Okay, I have to thank you for something, and that is the bathrooms. Oh, you're welcome. I got us a toilet. Nice. A private toilet. Very nice.

Trista, I did not know this. Yeah. So, no, they were all, okay, so I don't know if we've talked about it yet, Bob, but the toilets are like a bunch of porta-potties, essentially. with like a wooden top on the top and they're just bored so you can see people's heads they're not port-a-potties Trista they're outhouses

if you are out-housing yeah it's not even I would have taken a porta-potty over that these are outhouses where you could tell who's sitting down oh my God

bring a 10-2 for guys girls we sit down anyway but it doesn't flush or anything it's an out-house house. And so that was the thing I brought up when they asked me to do the show. I go, there is no freaking way. I, otherwise I won't go the bathroom for the whole time. I am not going to sit next to someone on television and go potty. So it took them a couple weeks to get back

to us because that was my deal breaker. And I'm sure they're brittle that I say that because next season someone's going to be like, well, Denise Richards got a toilet. They got a toilet. They got a toilet and hit it, but I said, I am not going to have a target on my back where it's like only my toilet, so I don't want anyone to know, but how am I going to find this toilet? Do you tell me, I thought the producers would at least even talk to us and show us around? I didn't know it was set up the way it really was with Fox. I really thought they would break down and those guys would go on a break and producers would come. I really did. But Cam found the toilet because he's so tall he was like look there's a toilet in here and there's a full door so i feel like when we were

that you actually asked didn't you ask i feel like you asked what about the toilet oh no i found it right away i didn't want to say anything because i didn't want to get in trouble well and honestly i didn't even know it was there i thought i only knew about the toilets that you can see like your face or your feet not the one that was enclosed so i didn't like i literally didn't know it was there even though it was well cam i think to denise richards but cam did tell every he saw it and he's like there is a private toilet here so okay got it maybe i wasn't but i was like i want to say anything and then have everyone angry at me so i was like angry at you why would we be angry at you you got us private toilet that's a celebration point right

right there. Totally. The little things. It's the little things. They would have made you captain, squadron captain. That's right. Let's talk about the food. We haven't talked about the food on the podcast yet.

And I feel like so you get these little bowls, Bob. There's like two, I think one in like a nesting bowl situation. And then you have your silverware and you get it. It's metal. Okay. Metal, exactly. They're metal. you would take on a camping trip it's a metal rectangle with another rectangle and metal um

cutlery exactly and you have to carry it in your in your pack all the time it has to be clean and you get this i don't know why because there's no food there anyway to put it like he got dishes with no food and you're literally cleaning it off like ali has talked about this in interviews where You're cleaning off your food with, like, the trickle of water that we get. And who knows where that water came from? It wasn't, it wasn't, like, Crystal Springs. No, it was this weird state in the middle of the place where we were sleeping. Right.

Oh, my God. And so you're cleaning your plates and you're cleaning your, like, you're drying them with this towel that you get. But then also, after you take a shower, you're drying yourself with this towel. with the same towel. So it's the same towel the whole time, like the same towel the whole week? One thin towel. Yeah.

Oh, my gosh. We're making this sound so amazing. I'm making notes to what my deal breakers will need to be when I go. Extra towel. Yeah. Toilet. Yeah. No, these are just the like, we're nitpicking here.

We are. We're just making fun of it. We are making fun of that. But Denise, both, we both agree. The best part of this show to us was bonding with each other, with the fellow, our fellow castmates. And I feel like I've been asked, like, who surprised you most and who did you connect with? And I think it all is very dependent on who you end up being in the vehicles with. Yes, I agree.

In the vehicles, you have like downtime and you can talk. And even though there's cameras, you can talk because you don't know if you're going to be in the car for five minutes or five hours. And we ended up, you know, talking and, you know, like Denise said, like kind of curled up sleeping or, you know, taking a little snooze. So talk about that a little bit, Denise, and how how that was kind of an unexpected. And maybe it wasn't unexpected to you. but it was a huge benefit of the show. You know, on other sets that I've been on and I've done so many different projects,

I love the camaraderie, you know, with the cast and with the crew and, you know, so I love that in any way. And then for this situation where it's like there was no egos, there was nothing. Everyone was just really stripped down emotionally and physically and just, really laughing at how hard it was like we could all like commiserate together and it i knew that

i would hit it off with you because you and i talked we met each other years ago at like a couple events i think um but i'm so grateful though we've become friends it's different running into each other and meeting each other and then you and i are friends now we you know yeah communicate a lot and we talk a lot and we it's I'm so happy for that and I think I was so happy to be able to get to know the other three people I really felt like I had a connection with outside of Stephen Baldwin because I've known him over the years doing different projects but was uh Marianne jones is phenomenal and um and then can't cam newton and golden tape to see these two athletes who my net news are like in awe of they could not believe i was on a show and spent time with them like they are

so starstruck that i was able to have that experience so i think that part was it's really really the coolest experience that i think the show does for all of us who are you know in our own world doing what we do but it's all entertainment whether you're an athlete or you know doing Olympics and all that where people know who we are but sort of bring us all together like this I think is so incredible it's amazing

I love that definitely I love hearing that it's the biggest benefit of the show like I know I always always thought one thing you just said that I thought was really neat was the drill sergeants I knew a guy who was a drill sergeant and my dad was a Marine and stuff and so I got to talk to him and I always had thought

that the reason they would put people through basic training was to break them down and then build them back up again so that they would look at each other as, you know, family. And it's so funny that you just said that. And it basically connected with me that that was kind of the whole thing about the basic training and a drill sergeant and all that was, you know, you'd be watching someone you care about

or you know getting berated by this person when they're giving it all they got, right? And you're almost ready to go over there and be like, knock it off, leave her alone, you know, or whatever it might be. You're like defending each other. And you wouldn't even have known each other in certain circles, like you said with Cam Newton and Golden. So I love hearing that you felt that way that you guys came out of this as like real friends.

That's that's the best part of this whole show already for me. It happens so fast, like so quick. First of all, the days are packed. It is crazy in one day what you would do. It felt like a week of the stuff we did. You're so right. Yeah. And so we bonded really quickly.

It didn't take, you know, that long to do that. I agree. Okay, so moving on from Special Forces, can you talk about your new show coming up? Yes, I can, there's going to be an announcement about the show as far as exactly when. I can say it's in the spring and where it'll be. That's going to be announced. But it is a, you know, family reality show with, it's called, unless they change it. Right now, it's called Denise Richards and Her Wild Things.

And it's with my kids, it's with my husband, it's with my friends, it's with familiar faces, it's showing my work, life, home life, and everything. And it's, you know, it's a fun, it's crazy. And there's a lot of different dynamics with my older girls. And, you know, we did a reality show years ago when they were younger. And now to see them older doing it, even though they've done a little bit on housewives, but very little. they were on it very little but yeah but yeah no it was a totally different experience so i mean you rolled right into it from special forces you literally rolled right into film

you yeah yeah as soon as i got back we started um i had uh two weeks and then we started wow that is crazy i know it's awesome um and your daughters are featured we hear that you're that sammy has a new boyfriend how are you feeling about this new boy boyfriend um he i like it's a boyfriend and then he wasn't now he's a boyfriend again okay but i like him a lot that's awesome yeah so max and his girlfriend just broke up unfortunately and just like i don't know it like it's so hard because it's their journey right it's their journey you can't get involved really but oh gosh how i want to like you you know, just talk them through it.

They learned so much about relationships in the year and a half that they're dated. I remember you talking about her that you guys were like watching a show together and, you know, so I know you liked her. Oh, what a bummer. I love her and always will. Yeah.

Regardless. Wait, how old is he? He's 17. 17. 17. That's hot. So that's like the hard age. And I remember when my dad tried to comfort me when my boyfriend and I broke up

and he actually made me feel worse. My dad said, you know, everything's going to be okay, but I hate to tell you this, but you're going to go through this quite a bit. This will be the only time. And I'm like, dad, that's not making me feel better. What are you doing? I don't think of more notes, parenting notes.

Don't say that to my kids. But he's right, but it was just funny, and it's hard seeing them get older. I worry more now. I don't know about you, Trista, with my kids getting a little bit older, where, you know, they, I don't have as much, like, control telling them you have to be home this or not, you can't go there, you know, it's hard. Well, they say that the older they get, the bigger problems they have. Like, you know, I don't know what the, yeah, for sure. You have, like, micro problems when they're little and, sorry, Bob, I'm not like, you know, it's the truth.

I know, I know. It's a condescending to you. I feel like you have micro problems when they're little and they're macro problems when they're big. Like, you know, whether it's school and college and relationships and sex and drugs and alcohol and, you know, all of these big things that they have to deal with. It's hard as a year older. Yeah, my biggest concern right now is to make sure I got enough bluey episodes on standby to get me through the day, you know? So, yeah, I know you guys are doing much different things. Any advice, Denise, for those out there with teenagers, with kids, you know, like parenting to?

I don't know. I think the thing, everything's changing so fast. You know, when we were their age, we didn't have social media. We didn't have access to everything. I think if I could do it all over again, I probably would have moved them. out of L.A. and it's them somewhere else. And nothing against L.A. I love being here. My job's here and, you know, it's got so many opportunities and the kids have great friends. But it is a different lifestyle and them growing up with a parents who are in the

public eye, I'm sure it was super easy for them. So I think that if we were somewhere else, maybe it would have been a little different. I don't know. Maybe it would have been worse because they wouldn't have had any peer is where their parents were also doing the same job as their dad and I. So I don't know.

All I could say is just, it's staying just really connected to your kids and have an open communication as they get to be teenagers and stuff like that, I think is the best thing. Yeah. That's good advice. Perfect. Oh, my gosh.

And one thing I wanted to talk about I didn't even talk about was the fact that she's not even going to watch the show, Bob. She's not going to watch the show. At all? No, I will after I'm gone. Oh, okay. You don't want to see yourself on it? No, I don't like one.

Oh, I actually got it. Yeah. Wow. That's pretty awesome. I want thoughts to know I'm very supportive. I want everyone else to see it. No disrespect to that. I don't watch my stuff in general.

So I'm going to watch almost all the housewives. I never saw. So I get it. No kidding. Yeah, I do get that. It is, it is, we were telling Nathan the other day. that it's like the hardest part is to get ready to watch yourself on TV

and pick yourself apart, you know? So I understand that totally. Really quickly, I have a question about Nathan and then I'll let you go. I thought it was hilarious because I'm like, I thought you were a fucking Olympic swimmer. He goes, yeah, with a pool and goggles. Because I'm like, how come you can't swim in this shit? I go, if you can't swim in this shit, I am dead.

exactly if an Olympic athlete swimming with Michael Phelps can't do this then what are we supposed to do? Although he did bring me to the edge and I forgot to mention him too I feel bad because he did save me

from being drowning at one point and then when we were doing that thing when we were in that pool that they made us jump in I kept hanging on him he finally had to say to Denise you can't hang on me or making me drown you're pulling me under And I'm like, I don't know what to do.

I'm going to fucking drown here. I don't know where to go. I don't know. I don't get to the edge to the pool. Oh, my God. That's where I did not feel safe. I'm like, what the hell? Where are the people underneath us?

Yeah, right? To come up and take you up? Yeah. All right. Well, I know we both have more to do outside of this interview. I wish we could talk the whole rest of the day. I know. I know. I've got to get going. You've got to get going. Thanks, Bob, for getting on the Zoom, too.

Thanks, Denise. Thank you. Thanks, Denise. About special forces, and we hope that everyone tunes in. Yes, it's Wednesday night. Tonight, I think maybe we'll air. So if everyone tunes in tonight on Fox. Yay. Thank you so much, you guys. Thank you. So nice talking, Denise. And thanks, Trista. Thanks for letting me be a fly on the for all for all this. I love it. It's so fascinating. Let's start

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